[Congressional Record Volume 171, Number 39 (Thursday, February 27, 2025)]
[Senate]
[Pages S1438-S1439]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]




                DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES

  Ms. KLOBUCHAR. Mr. President, I rise today with my colleagues in 
strong opposition to the firings of scientists, medical researchers, 
and more at the Department of Health and Human Services.
  HHS is in charge of everything from preventing disease outbreaks to 
making sure that our kids are healthy to ensuring that seniors can live 
with dignity.
  It directly touches more lives than any other Cabinet Agency. That is 
why the administration's mass firings of thousands of HHS employees are 
deeply troubling.
  When a new CEO comes in and wants to see a new direction for a 
company, they look at it, they look at all the divisions, they figure 
out their direction. They maybe cut a division; they maybe make changes 
to it. They look at the merits of certain employees; they move some 
employees to different divisions. And they figure out, thoughtfully, 
what is the right way and what is the best way for their company.
  This is the entire government, but that is not what is happening 
here. They are firing people across the board, without regard to merit, 
without regard for function. They are firing some of the newest 
employees who are eager and excited to have their jobs. They are firing 
some people who are simply up for promotion which puts them in a 
probationary status.
  They are not looking at what these people are doing or the value they 
bring to the workforce and to the American people. They are just doing 
it and getting on TV with a chain saw.
  These are people who went into public service for a reason. They are 
people, in the case of Health and Human Services, who keep us healthy 
and save lives, who work every day to keep America at the forefront of 
medical breakthroughs and innovation.
  It has been our secret sauce. It has given the world the most 
incredible, credible, lifesaving drugs and medical devices--like the 
pacemaker in my State.
  That didn't just come out of one company. That came out of a lot of 
ideas, and that came out a lot of universities, and that came out of 
people doing clinical trials, and that came out of a devotion by our 
country to moving forward. That is how we have gotten these lifesaving 
cures.
  That is how we mapped the human genome, so that we are now starting 
to offer personalized medicine, drugs that fit people, things that 
work, things that cure diseases we never thought were possible to cure. 
That is how our economy has been so strengthened, and we have led 
across the world.
  You know, I have worked for years to cut redtape, and I know there is 
more to do. I know there is more we can do to make our government 
effective. But we can do that together and take the ideas from the 
administration. We can work on it in the next budget. We can make some 
changes. I support permitting reform--all kinds of things that we could 
do.
  But these mass firings in the area of medical research? This makes no 
sense.
  The Department of Health and Human Services is also tasked with 
implementing Medicare drug price negotiation, which I fought for years 
to pass into law, along with my colleague Senator Welch from Vermont, 
when he was in the House, and Senator Sanders here in the Senate.
  This is expected--we finally passed it. It was part of the Inflation 
Reduction Act, and it actually says: Hey, this sweetheart deal that 
pharma had with Medicare, in which they can't negotiate at all and that 
the prices are locked in and so our country--people are paying twice as 
much as they do in places like Canada, for the drug. Yet it is our 
taxpayers that put in the money for the research or the VA, which works 
so well for our veterans. They are able to negotiate and get better 
prices, but not 50 million seniors?
  So what did we do? We finally ended the sweetheart deal, and we 
passed a law. I would have been more aggressive about how many drugs we 
could negotiate because I understand they start with a group of drugs, 
and pretty soon that is going to help people who aren't seniors, as we 
did with the insulin cap. That insulin cap, at 35 bucks a month, was 
only for seniors, but Merck and other companies offered it to 
nonseniors, as well, because we got it going with the biggest 
prescription drug buying group in the country, and that would be our 
seniors.
  So this Medicare negotiation has ramifications for everyone in this 
country. However, even though we only did 10 drugs at first, the Biden 
administration picked blockbuster drugs--big drugs that so many people 
take, like Januvia and Jardiance and Xarelto and Eliquis. Combined, in 
1 year--just 1 year, when this starts next year; no one has refuted 
these statistics--9 million seniors will save $1.5 billion in out-of-
pocket costs in the first year alone and save taxpayers over $100 
billion in the next decade. That is just 10 drugs.
  They have now come up with 15 more drugs, including Ozempic and those 
weight-loss drugs, and they have passed that torch now--or the voters 
have--onto the next administration. So now, it is on them to negotiate 
these 15 and then pick 15 more and 15 more. Imagine how much money we 
can save, not just for the seniors--that is obvious--but also for the 
taxpayers because

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we are footing part of this bill. And then, ultimately, it will bring 
down drug prices, like they have in other countries.
  But firing the men and women who carry out these price negotiations 
put those savings totally at risk. You cannot take on some of the 
world's biggest companies--the pharmaceutical companies--with bandaids 
and a skeleton crew. That is not going to work. I think we all know 
that. We all know this is really hard work.
  On top of this, the firings threaten healthcare for the 170 million 
Americans who get coverage through Medicare, Medicaid--which is so many 
of our seniors when they are in assisted living with their long-term 
care, and people's parents and grandparents--as well as coverage under 
the Affordable Care Act, including over 2 million Minnesotans. In fact, 
Medicaid actually provides healthcare for 20 percent of my rural 
residents in my State. You will see similar numbers all across the 
country. And more than half of all nursing home residents in our State 
are on Medicaid.
  I remember when my dad was in assisted living. He got late-onset 
Alzheimer's. I found a place for him and found the next place when he 
needed a little more help, and I knew, as his savings were running out, 
what that day was. I knew the exact month that he was going to run out 
of his savings, and then he would go onto Medicaid. And that was a 
safety net. I actually knew I couldn't keep him at the same place, but 
I knew a place I could have him go to.
  He ended up dying a year before that date happened. But there are so 
many people in our country that know the exact date when their parent 
or their grandparent is going to be able to have that safety net of 
Medicaid because they have actually run through all their savings.
  Nationwide, Medicaid provides coverage for two-thirds of all nursing 
home care. And these cuts--what we are seeing out of the House budget, 
where they have put targets on the exact program that includes 
Medicaid--these cuts will be particularly disastrous for people with 
chronic conditions, including millions of veterans who become sick or 
disabled as a result of their service.
  What is this all about? It is about funding giant tax breaks for 
billionaires. Yes, over 2 trillion of that money goes to people who are 
wealthy, people making over $400,000 a year.
  I am all for keeping in these tax cuts for people making under 
$400,000 a year, but I do not know why, when you are facing the debt 
that our country has and when you are dealing with people's needs with 
Medicaid and the like, you would decide to add tax cuts and make 
permanent tax cuts for people who are making over $400,000 a year.
  We actually had a vote on this, late at night about a week ago, where 
we asked our Republican colleagues: OK. Well, how about for people 
making over $10 million a year? That was Senator Warren's amendment. 
She said: OK. How about if they are making over 10 million? Could we at 
least agree we shouldn't cut their taxes?
  And, unfortunately, our Republican colleagues, for that amendment, 
yelled out: No.
  Then we said--Senator Kelly got up there and said: OK. How about if 
they are making over $100 million? Then we should add more tax cuts?
  Our colleagues voted against that amendment, which said we should not 
add more tax cuts for people making over $100 million when our country 
is facing the debt it has, when you have got the needs for people in 
nursing homes and the needs for people with childcare and the like.
  So then they tried one more time. Senator Angus King, Independent of 
Maine, said: OK. How about for people making over $500 million? Then, 
at least, you can agree with us--right?--that we shouldn't add more tax 
cuts for those people making over $500 million a year. And, sadly, our 
colleagues voted no.

  Instead of cutting costs for regular people and their prices and 
groceries, they are cutting Medicaid, which provides healthcare for 7.2 
million seniors, almost 40 million children, nearly two-thirds of 
nursing home residents, and millions of people with rare diseases.
  But this isn't just the numbers. There are moms and dads, brothers 
and sisters, friends and neighbors. I heard from one Minnesotan who, at 
4 years old, was diagnosed with Duchenne muscular dystrophy, which 
causes rapid muscle weakness, making it harder to complete most 
physical tasks. But this Minnesotan, who is now 26, has been able to 
thrive because he has Medicaid coverage. He got an education. He got a 
job. He graduated with a master's degree in public policy. He is paying 
taxes. In his words, Medicaid gave him the affordable health coverage 
he needed to manage his rare condition.
  For him and millions more, the cuts at the Department of Health and 
Human Services put their lives and livelihood at risk.
  This week is rare disease week. I have met with many rare disease 
patients. I am the cochair of that caucus. And they are in town right 
now to convene and collaborate with Federal medical researchers, Ph.D. 
students, other families affected, drug and device reviewers and 
advocates.
  Many of these rare disease patients were looking forward to attending 
the rare disease event that was supposed to be today. And this year it 
was going to be a collaboration between NIH and the FDA because of all 
that integral work that goes on with drugs being approved for people 
with rare diseases, but that annual event was canceled because the 
people carrying that out--these people here with very difficult, rare 
diseases--that was canceled because the people doing the event were 
fired.
  The mission of the Department of Health and Human Services, which the 
thousands of Americans who were fired work every day to uphold, is 
enhancing the health and well-being of all Americans. These mass 
firings are a direct affront to that mission.
  The building that houses the Department of Health and Human Services 
is named for Minnesota's ``Happy Warrior,'' Vice President Hubert 
Humphrey. It has been that way through Democrat and Republican 
Presidents. He was a champion for expanding access to healthcare. 
Inscribed in the entrance hall of that building are words from 
Humphrey's final speech in 1977. By the way, he was someone who was 
loved right here in this Chamber by Democrats and Republicans. Some of 
the most conservative Republicans mourned his loss, and they loved the 
guy. And this is what he said in his final speech here:

       The moral test of government is how that government treats 
     those who are in the dawn of life, the children; those who 
     are in the twilight of life, the elderly; and those who are 
     in shadows of life, the sick.

  And he added, given he had a child in his own family with Down 
syndrome, and those with disabilities.
  The firing of those who care for kids and seniors and those who work 
on rare diseases and those who are bringing together our people who 
work on drugs that are supposed to solve and are solving the problems 
for these rare disease families and those that are doing the approvals 
and those that are doing the research and the families that want to 
talk to them about it--they were all here, and they canceled it 
because, just like that, Elon Musk came in with his chain saw.
  Those families are not going to tolerate this much longer.
  I yield the floor.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Vermont.

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