[Congressional Record Volume 171, Number 24 (Wednesday, February 5, 2025)]
[House]
[Pages H478-H480]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]




           EMERGENCY WILDFIRE FIGHTING TECHNOLOGY ACT OF 2025

  Mr. WESTERMAN. Mr. Speaker, I move to suspend the rules and pass the 
bill (H.R. 836) to require the Secretary of Agriculture, acting through 
the Chief of the Forest Service, and the Secretary of the Interior to 
conduct an evaluation with respect to the use of the container aerial 
firefighting system (CAFFS), and for other purposes.
  The Clerk read the title of the bill.
  The text of the bill is as follows:

                                H.R. 836

       Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of 
     the United States of America in Congress assembled,

     SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

       This Act may be cited as the ``Emergency Wildfire Fighting 
     Technology Act of 2025''.

     SEC. 2. CONTAINER AERIAL FIREFIGHTING SYSTEM (CAFFS).

       (a) Evaluation.--Not later than 90 days after the date of 
     the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Agriculture and 
     the Secretary of the Interior, in consultation with the 
     National Interagency Aviation Committee and the Interagency 
     Airtanker Board, shall jointly conduct an evaluation of the 
     container aerial firefighting system to assess the use of 
     such system to mitigate and suppress wildfires.
       (b) Report.--Not later than 120 days after the date of the 
     enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Agriculture and the 
     Secretary of the Interior, in consultation with the National 
     Interagency Aviation Committee and the Interagency Airtanker 
     Board, shall jointly submit to the appropriate committees a 
     report that includes the results of the evaluation required 
     under subsection (a).
       (c) Appropriate Committees Defined.--In this section, the 
     term ``appropriate committees'' means--
       (1) the Committees on Agriculture and Natural Resources of 
     the House of Representatives; and
       (2) the Committees on Agriculture, Nutrition, and Forestry 
     and Energy and Natural Resources of the Senate.

  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to the rule, the gentleman from 
Arkansas (Mr. Westerman) and the gentleman from California (Mr. 
Huffman) each will control 20 minutes.
  The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Arkansas.


                             General Leave

  Mr. WESTERMAN. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that all Members 
may have 5 legislative days in which to revise and extend their remarks 
and include extraneous material on H.R. 836, the bill now under 
consideration.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the 
gentleman from Arkansas?
  There was no objection.
  Mr. WESTERMAN. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may 
consume.
  I rise in strong support of Congressman Valadao's bill, the Emergency 
Wildfire Fighting Technology Act of 2025. This timely legislation 
offers us a chance to equip land managers with another tool in their 
arsenal to combat the catastrophic wildfire crisis by testing a new and 
innovative method for wildfire suppression.

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  Last month, wildfires in southern California took the lives of at 
least 29 people and changed thousands of lives forever. These fires 
destroyed more than 16,000 structures and racked up untold fire 
suppression costs and economic damages.
  This tragedy is a wake-up call for millions of Americans and 
demonstrates just how important it is to proactively address the 
wildfire crisis. Unfortunately, decades of inadequate forest management 
have created an unprecedented forest health crisis. Across our country, 
1 billion acres are now at risk of wildland fire. In the absence of 
dramatic change, the future outlook remains bleak.
  When it comes to fighting these out-of-control infernos, it is 
critical that we utilize all available technologies that could improve 
the cost efficiency and effectiveness of fire suppression. Wildland 
firefighters on the front lines of these disasters must have all the 
tools and methods available to fight fires and protect lives and 
property.
  Aircraft and helicopters provide lifesaving support to ground crews, 
often by delivering water or fire retardant. In order to drop water or 
fire retardant from a plane or helicopter, the aircraft must be 
designed or retrofitted for such purpose, which limits the number of 
aircraft available.
  Representative Valadao has worked with various stakeholders who have 
developed and improved container aerial firefighting systems that drop 
water or fire retardant from aircraft via disposable containers. This 
technology could decrease the response time to wildfires by increasing 
the number of aircraft available, which could, in turn, save lives and 
critical infrastructure.
  This technology is not new and is used successfully in other parts of 
the world. However, U.S. wildland firefighting agencies have not 
recently studied the system.
  H.R. 836 would require the U.S. Forest Service and the Department of 
the Interior to evaluate the use of container aerial firefighting 
systems in response to wildfires. The evaluation will focus on 
effectiveness, cost, ease of delivery, and safety.
  Directing our wildfire firefighting agencies to study new and 
emerging technologies is a win for the wildland firefighting crews and 
a win for those who live in vulnerable, fire-prone areas.
  I applaud Congressman Valadao for his leadership on this important 
topic. His legislation passed the House unanimously last year, and it 
has also passed the House twice with bipartisan support as part of the 
Fix Our Forests Act.
  Mr. Speaker, I support the bill and reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. HUFFMAN. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  I rise in support of this legislation introduced by the gentleman 
from California (Mr. Valadao).
  In a few minutes, I will also have a lot to say about one of the 
bills that was abruptly and outrageously pulled from our agenda today, 
but right now, I am happy to support my friend's bill.
  I point out that the text of this bill passed the House as part of 
Chair Westerman's H.R. 471 less than 2 weeks ago. I recognize that this 
is the beginning of a new Congress. Things are pretty chaotic, and our 
friends across the aisle want to appear busy amidst all the 
unconstitutional chaos and illegal action that is flooding our in-boxes 
and our newspapers, and we are constantly on the defensive because our 
democracy is under attack by someone who doesn't want to be a 
President--he wants to be a king--and has no regard for Article I of 
the Constitution.
  We have silence from our friends across the aisle about all of that, 
but I guess we have time today to move a bill that we have already 
passed and that nobody opposes. Congratulations for this particular 
head-scratcher.

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  It is a real missed opportunity since we could be using this time to 
talk about critical issues like the Federal wildland firefighting pay 
and benefits that are set to expire a few weeks from now.
  I think there is bipartisan support to extend those, but I can't get 
my friends across the aisle to talk about that, let alone come together 
and move some legislation to get it done.
  Of course, fixing firefighter pay wasn't in the recent Republican 
package. It is not on the agenda today either. I hope we get to it at 
some point, but we are not doing it today, and that is a shame.
  We should also be talking about disaster relief for California, but 
that is not on the agenda today either. Since we are considering this 
bill for a second time, Groundhog Day on this bill, instead of all of 
the other priorities, I will say committee Democrats continue to 
support this bill.
  There is no opposition to this bill. We are going to pass it again 
and again, maybe, if we run out of other things to do this in this 
Congress.
  The legislation would require relevant Federal agencies to complete 
an updated evaluation of the Container Aerial Firefighting System to 
support wildland fire mitigation and suppression efforts across the 
country. The system involves using a box or a container for aerial 
drops of water or fire retardant.
  Its proponents claim that the utilization of this technology could 
improve delivery time and make it easier for aircrafts to fight fires. 
That is fine. That is a good thing.
  However, back in 2011, the Forest Service conducted a study and 
determined that this particular system did not meet existing standards 
and posed safety risks to our communities and forests. Since that 
initial report, there have been technological advancements.
  This bill aims to take another look at a potentially useful tool 
while ensuring the Forest Service retains its authority to decide if 
the tool is ready to use or not. This is an important safeguard for 
wildland firefighters and the communities who are impacted by the 
wildfire crisis.
  As we saw in the recent southern California fires, the climate crisis 
is clearly increasing the severity and duration of wildfire season. 
Evaluating new technology that can help keep communities safe needs to 
be a priority.
  This bill is one of many examples of the potential for truly 
bipartisan collaboration on the issue of wildfires. I hope we can keep 
this work going. I hope we can extend it to actually be a permanent fix 
for the firefighter pay problem that we need to address.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to vote ``yes,'' and I reserve the 
balance of my time.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Members are reminded to refrain from 
engaging in personalities toward the President.
  Mr. WESTERMAN. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may 
consume.
  Mr. Speaker, I thank my friends across the aisle for their 
overwhelming support of Representative Valadao's bill. We should have 
that kind of support for a bill that is addressing a huge issue in our 
country with wildland fire and the dangers that it imposes.
  Mr. Speaker, I believe you and Mr. Valadao both serve on the 
Committee on Appropriations where Republicans brought an Interior 
appropriations bill to the floor with firefighter pay funding in that 
bill, and it was voted down by our friends across the aisle.
  We do need to take care of our firefighters. When we get bills on the 
floor that increase pay for firefighters, I would hope we could get 
more bipartisan support on that.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from California (Mr. 
Valadao), the lead sponsor of the bill.
  Mr. VALADAO. Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to support the 
Emergency Wildfire Fighting Technology Act of 2025, which would 
dramatically increase the number of airlift assets available for 
wildfire emergencies.
  Containerized Aerial Firefighting Systems, or CAFFS, are airdrop-
capable disposable containers for water or fire retardant, which can be 
dropped from much higher altitudes and with less visibility than 
current aerial firefighting operations.
  Current operations depend on single-mission aircraft, but CAFFS can 
be used by any standard cargo plane. The use of CAFFS provides for more 
coverage for firefighters on the ground and allows teams to quickly 
respond to prevent smaller fires from raging out of control.
  These systems are used by other countries, but the United States has 
not utilized them. We have the technology that we can deploy to stop or 
minimize the devastation these fires cause, and we should be using it.

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  Mr. Speaker, I thank Chair Westerman and his staff at the Committee 
on Natural Resources for their work on this important bill to combat 
and contain wildfires in a quicker and more efficient way.

  Mr. HUFFMAN. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
  Mr. Speaker, I certainly didn't think I was engaging in personalities 
by talking about a President that wants to be a king. I thought I was 
just acknowledging the reality of what is happening in this country.
  I was also referring to these 19-year-olds in hoodies that have been 
given read-write access to our most sensitive, personal data who are 
inside the Treasury Department's payment system right now rummaging 
through our private information doing who knows what.
  We can't even get answers because our friends across the aisle don't 
want to talk about it. They want to rerun all these bills that we have 
already passed and that are, frankly, not opposed, and this is a waste 
of our time here on the floor.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to vote ``yes'' again on this bill, 
and I yield back the balance of my time.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Again, I would remind Members to refrain 
from engaging in personalities toward the President.
  Mr. WESTERMAN. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
  Mr. Speaker, H.R. 836 is a good, commonsense piece of legislation 
that has passed the House three times on a bipartisan basis.
  I commend Representative Valadao for his proven leadership on 
bipartisan solutions that meaningfully improve forest health and reduce 
wildfires. If we could get the Senate to act on some of these bills, we 
wouldn't have to pass them so many times.
  I appreciate Representative Valadao being so persistent and 
continuing to work on his good legislation. I encourage adoption of the 
bill.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the motion offered by the 
gentleman from Arkansas (Mr. Westerman) that the House suspend the 
rules and pass the bill, H.R. 836.
  The question was taken; and (two-thirds being in the affirmative) the 
rules were suspended and the bill was passed.
  A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.

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