[Congressional Record Volume 170, Number 182 (Monday, December 9, 2024)]
[House]
[Pages H6532-H6534]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]




                 FEMA LOAN INTEREST PAYMENT RELIEF ACT

  Mr. GRAVES of Louisiana. Mr. Speaker, I move to suspend the rules and 
pass the bill (H.R. 2672) to amend the Robert T. Stafford Disaster 
Relief and Emergency Assistance Act to provide for the authority to 
reimburse local governments or electric cooperatives for interest 
expenses, and for other purposes, as amended.
  The Clerk read the title of the bill.
  The text of the bill is as follows:

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                               H.R. 2672

       Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of 
     the United States of America in Congress assembled,

     SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

       This Act may be cited as the ``FEMA Loan Interest Payment 
     Relief Act''.

     SEC. 2. REIMBURSEMENT OF INTEREST PAYMENTS RELATED TO PUBLIC 
                   ASSISTANCE.

       (a) In General.--Title IV of the Robert T. Stafford 
     Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 5170 
     et seq.) is amended by adding at the end the following:

     ``SEC. 431. REIMBURSEMENT OF INTEREST PAYMENTS RELATED TO 
                   PUBLIC ASSISTANCE.

       ``(a) In General.--The President, acting through the 
     Administrator of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, 
     shall provide financial assistance to a local government or 
     electric cooperative as reimbursement for qualifying 
     interest.
       ``(b) Definitions.--
       ``(1) In general.--In this section, the following 
     definitions apply:
       ``(A) Qualifying interest.--The term `qualifying interest' 
     means, with respect to a qualifying loan, the lesser of--
       ``(i) the actual interest paid to a lender for such 
     qualifying loan; and
       ``(ii) the interest that would have been paid to a lender 
     if such qualifying loan had an interest rate equal to the 
     prime rate most recently published on the Federal Reserve 
     Statistical Release on selected interest rates.
       ``(B) Qualifying loan.--The term `qualifying loan' means a 
     loan--
       ``(i) obtained by a local government or electric 
     cooperative; and
       ``(ii) of which not less than 90 percent of the proceeds 
     are used to fund activities for which such local government 
     or electric cooperative receives assistance under this Act 
     after the date on which such loan is disbursed.
       ``(2) Local government.--For purposes of this section, the 
     term `local government' includes the District of Columbia.''.
       (b) Rules of Applicability.--
       (1) Eligibility.--Any qualifying interest (as such term is 
     defined in section 431 of the Robert T. Stafford Disaster 
     Relief and Emergency Assistance Act, as added by this Act) 
     incurred by a local government or electric cooperative in the 
     7 years preceding the date of enactment of this Act shall be 
     treated as eligible for financial assistance for purposes of 
     such section.
       (2) Appropriations.--Only amounts appropriated on or after 
     the date of enactment of this Act may be made available to 
     carry out the amendment made by this section.

  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to the rule, the gentleman from 
Louisiana (Mr. Graves) and the gentleman from Washington (Mr. Larsen) 
each will control 20 minutes.
  The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Louisiana.


                             General Leave

  Mr. GRAVES of Louisiana. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that 
all Members may have 5 legislative days in which to revise and extend 
their remarks and include extraneous material on H.R. 2672.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the 
gentleman from Louisiana?
  There was no objection.
  Mr. GRAVES of Louisiana. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I 
may consume.
  Mr. Speaker, H.R. 2672, the FEMA Loan Interest Payment Relief Act, 
will help reduce the financial burden on local governments and electric 
cooperatives that are forced to take out loans to speed up rebuilding 
of projects eligible for FEMA assistance.
  On top of that, the current requirements for when interest can be 
reimbursed are confusing. The legislation clarifies when FEMA can 
reimburse the interest that local governments or electric cooperatives 
incurred on their disaster loans because they were waiting for Federal 
reimbursement from FEMA.
  I thank the gentleman from Florida, Dr. Dunn, for his leadership on 
this bipartisan legislation.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge support of the legislation, and I reserve the 
balance of my time.
  Mr. LARSEN of Washington. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I 
may consume.
  Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of H.R. 2672, the legislation authored 
by Representatives Dunn and Soto from Florida. This bill clarifies that 
FEMA should reimburse local governments and electric co-ops for 
interest on disaster recovery loans.
  In the aftermath of a disaster, local communities are the first to 
mobilize costly recovery efforts, which they often fund with 
substantial loans.
  It is Congress' intent that FEMA's public assistance program 
eventually reimburses these loans. However, the process can be complex 
and time-consuming, and the reimbursement policy is often not applied 
to local governments and electric co-ops in the same way it is applied 
to States.
  When communities are working to recover, the last thing that they 
need is more uncertainty and additional financial burdens. This 
legislation provides much-needed relief by directing FEMA to reimburse 
all qualifying interest expenses equally. By doing so, communities on 
the front lines of disaster recovery can focus on what truly matters, 
rebuilding and restoring lives and homes.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to support this legislation, and I 
reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. GRAVES of Louisiana. Mr. Speaker, I yield 5 minutes to the 
gentleman from Florida (Mr. Dunn), the author of this legislation.
  Mr. DUNN of Florida. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to urge my colleagues 
to join me in supporting H.R. 2672, the FEMA Loan Interest Payment 
Relief Act.
  This bill would incentivize FEMA to provide timely reimbursement to 
State and local governments and electrical cooperatives for interest 
incurred on Stafford Act disaster-related loans.
  Last year, we successfully passed this bill in the House by a large 
margin, but the Senate did not take it up.
  Currently, State and local municipal officials take out loans to 
restore essential services following a natural disaster. However, while 
they are waiting for the loans to be reimbursed by FEMA, these loans 
incur interest.
  Hurricane Michael devastated my district in 2018, and now, 6 years 
later, my district is still waiting for FEMA to reimburse these loans. 
That is costing my 16 counties millions of dollars in interest alone 
that could have been avoided if FEMA had reimbursed them in a timely 
fashion.
  These are taxpayer dollars that are needlessly tied up by inefficient 
agency processing and would be better spent within the communities 
themselves.
  In light of back-to-back major hurricanes, Helene and Milton, this 
year, which brought catastrophic damage and loss of lives to multiple 
States, I think time is a valuable commodity.
  If FEMA has to reimburse the interest that accrues, as well as the 
principal, they will become more sensitive to the timeliness of 
reimbursement. I remind my colleagues that the ``E'' in FEMA stands for 
``emergency.''

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  Mr. Speaker, this bill will not only help my constituents but those 
in every single State.
  State and local leaders constantly complain about the issue of 
delayed FEMA loan reimbursements. H.R. 2672 will incentivize them to 
obligate these funds much more expeditiously moving forward.
  This, in turn, will ease the burden of accruing interest payments 
which cost States and local municipalities tens of millions of dollars 
every year.
  Most importantly, H.R. 2672 helps support our communities. Interest 
paid on these emergency loans is paid by the taxpayers, and the bill 
ensures that our State and local partners are not stuck footing the 
bill for FEMA's delay.
  Mr. Speaker, in September, H.R. 2672 passed the House Committee on 
Transportation and Infrastructure with unanimous consent. I thank 
Chairman Graves and the full Committee on Transportation and 
Infrastructure and General Scott Perry, chairman of the Emergency 
Management and Technology Subcommittee, for their consideration and 
support of this timely and critical legislation. I urge support for 
this bill.
  Mr. LARSEN of Washington. Mr. Speaker, local governments and 
electrical co-ops should not be penalized for taking out loans to jump-
start disaster recovery for their communities. This bill will direct 
the administrator of FEMA to reimburse qualifying interest accrued on 
such loans.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to support this legislation, and I 
yield back the balance of my time.
  Mr. GRAVES of Louisiana. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I 
may consume.
  Mr. Speaker, in closing, I want to make crystal clear what this does.
  In the aftermath of a disaster, you will have a local or State 
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that will fill out what is called a PW, project worksheet, trying to 
get reimbursement for something that is allowed under Federal law under 
the Stafford Act. Current law says the FEMA administrator may reimburse 
interest costs.
  As my good friend from Florida just noted, in some cases there are 
bureaucrats working through the paperwork for 10 years. In my home 
State of Louisiana, we have unresolved project worksheets dating back 
to Hurricane Katrina in 2005. According to my math, that was a long 
time ago.
  Mr. Speaker, we can't cause the burden of this debt to be undertaken 
by the local governments and by State governments. Rather than making 
it an option or a discretionary reimbursement, this bill ensures that 
the interest costs shall be reimbursable. Then local governments can 
borrow money, and there is more of an incentive for FEMA to actually 
expedite the approval of these project worksheets.
  I think it is a good clarification of law, removing uncertainty for 
local and State governments and electric co-ops. They will be able to 
rebuild faster after disaster and reduce the costs associated with 
delays.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to support H.R. 2672, and I yield 
back the balance of my time.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the motion offered by the 
gentleman from Louisiana (Mr. Graves) that the House suspend the rules 
and pass the bill, H.R. 2672, as amended.
  The question was taken; and (two-thirds being in the affirmative) the 
rules were suspended and the bill, as amended, was passed.
  A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.

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