Congressional Record, Volume 170 Issue 109 (Friday, June 28, 2024)

[Congressional Record Volume 170, Number 109 (Friday, June 28, 2024)]
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[Pages H4415-H4423]
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DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE APPROPRIATIONS ACT, 2025

The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Edwards). Pursuant to House Resolution
1316 and rule XVIII, the Chair declares the House in the Committee of
the Whole House on the state of the Union for the further consideration
of the bill, H.R. 8774.
Will the gentleman from California (Mr. McClintock) kindly take the
chair.

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In the Committee of the Whole

Accordingly, the House resolved itself into the Committee of the
Whole House on the state of the Union for the further consideration of
the bill (H.R. 8774) making appropriations for the Department of
Defense for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2025, and for other
purposes, with Mr. McClintock (Acting Chair) in the chair.
The Clerk read the title of the bill.
The Acting CHAIR. When the Committee of the Whole rose on Thursday,
June 27, 2024, amendment No. 129, printed in Part A of House Report
118-559 offered by the gentleman from Alabama (Mr. Moore) had been
disposed of.

Amendment No. 163 Offered by Ms. Tenney

The Acting CHAIR. It is now in order to consider amendment No. 163
printed in part A of House Report 118-559.
Ms. TENNEY. Mr. Chair, I have an amendment at the desk.
The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will designate the amendment.
The text of the amendment is as follows:

At the end of the bill (before the short title), insert the
following:
Sec. ___. None of the funds made available by this Act may
be used to carry out Executive Order 14019 (86 Fed. Reg.
13623; relating to promoting access to voting), except for
sections 7, 8, and 10 of such Executive Order.

The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to House Resolution 1316, the gentlewoman
from New York (Ms. Tenney) and a Member opposed each will control 5
minutes.
The Chair recognizes the gentlewoman from New York.
Ms. TENNEY. Mr. Chair, I rise to offer my amendment No. 163 to the
Defense appropriations bill to prohibit funding for President Biden's
executive order No. 14019 titled: ``Executive Order on Promoting Access
to Voting.''
This executive order requires Federal agencies to use their power,
influence, resources, and Federal funding--taxpayer cash--to enter into
agreements with nongovernmental organizations, third-party
organizations, to conduct voter registration and other voter
mobilization activities, including vote harvesting.
Mr. Chair, this executive order is nothing but a blatant attempt to
transform the Federal Government into a partisan, get-out-the-vote
machine for Democrats.
The Department of Defense should be completely nonpartisan and should
not be using taxpayer funds to actively engage in get-out-the-vote
operations that have nothing to do with the core mission of the
Department of Defense, not to mention the obvious mission creep and
Hatch Act violations this activity would trigger.
Mr. Chair, President Biden should not be weaponizing the Federal
Government's spending using American taxpayer dollars to manipulate and
steer our election in a partisan manner.
As the cofounder and the chair of the Election Integrity Caucus, it
is my privilege to introduce this amendment to restore transparency and
confidence in our Democratic process while keeping partisan Federal
bureaucrats and the swamp, literally, from deliberately tipping the
balance at the ballot box.
I stand firmly behind the concept of one citizen, one vote, as
enshrined in our Constitution. However, I do not support this blatantly
partisan mobilization of the Federal Government for political purposes,
especially at such a critical time in the world.
The Department of Defense should be laser focused on the missions at
hand and countering our adversaries such as the Chinese Communist
Party, not implementing a partisan get-out-the-vote initiative.
Mr. Chair, I urge all my colleagues to support amendment, which will
preserve election integrity, stop the Biden administration from
transforming the Department of Defense into a get-out-the-vote partisan
machine for the Democrats. Let's make voting great again.
I reserve the balance of my time.
Ms. McCOLLUM. Mr. Chair, I claim the time in opposition to this
amendment.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentlewoman from Minnesota is recognized for 5
minutes.
Ms. McCOLLUM. Mr. Chair, I rise in opposition to the gentlewoman's
amendment banning sections of Executive Order No. 14019. This is
another example of the majority proposing language that is not germane
to this bill.
Mr. Chair, call me a traditionalist, call me a person who respects
the roles that different committees have, but this is not germane to
this bill.
Section 1 of the executive order states: ``The right to vote is the
foundation of American democracy. Free and fair elections that reflect
the will of the American people must be protected and defended.''
Section 2 states: ``It is the policy of my administration'' referring
to the Biden administration ``to promote and defend the right to vote
for all Americans who are legally entitled to participate in
elections.''
Now, I don't understand the concern about this order since several
places direct officials to conform to the laws of the United States.
Furthermore, Mr. Chair, as I spoke about germaneness earlier, I don't
understand how this amendment was made in order, especially when the
Department of Defense bill has in the gentlewoman's amendment
exclusions with reference to the military.
In the amendment, which the Clerk has in front, it exempts sections
7, 8, and I believe it is 10. I am trying to do it from memory, Mr.
Chair. Those sections deal with the Department of Defense.
The Department of Defense is totally excluded from anything that the
gentlewoman would like to resolve with her amendment. Therefore, it
makes it totally nongermane.
For that reason alone, I strongly object to this amendment because it
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nongermane as to this bill. The comments that have been made are about
making sure that the Department of Defense somehow is making sure they
follow the law.
The Department of Defense is excluded in this amendment, so the
gentlewoman's reference to the Department of Defense being laser
focused on this amendment is very confusing to me, Mr. Chair, when it
is excluded, and it is nongermane to this bill.
I reserve the balance of my time.
Ms. TENNEY. Mr. Chair, with all due respect, our Constitution clearly
states the administration of elections is in the province of the
States. It is not for the Federal Government to use Federal agencies to
coordinate with third-party partisan groups using taxpayer dollars in
order to get out the vote for Democrats.
The mission of our Department of Defense is to protect and secure our
Nation, not to get the vote out. We encourage and want every member of
the military who is an eligible citizen to vote in our elections.
We do not want our taxpayer dollars used in a partisan way for a vote
harvesting scheme conceived by the Democrats and by this executive
order.
First of all, this is mission creep. The Department of Defense has to
focus on its very serious mission. This is germane. We are using
taxpayer dollars and military members, people paid under the Department
of Defense, to work on vote harvesting schemes, not on their mission of
protecting the American people.
I encourage all of my colleagues to vote for this amendment and make
voting great again and make our free and fair elections once again
possible in the United States of America.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Ms. McCOLLUM. Mr. Chair, may I inquire as to how much time is
remaining.

The Acting CHAIR. The gentlewoman from Minnesota has 2\1/2\ minutes
remaining.
Ms. McCOLLUM. Mr. Chair, I once again state, especially with the
exemptions to the military, that this piece of legislation is not
germane to the Defense appropriations bill.
We have to stop in this institution putting nongermane issues,
especially authorizing issues, into appropriations bills. We each have
our roles, and we need to respect them.
The gentlewoman is concerned about the Biden administration somehow
doing something inappropriate by making sure that every American has
the opportunity and the acknowledgment of when and how to vote.
Maybe she is concerned, Mr. Chair, because the OSC, which is the
Office of Special Counsel, found 13 violations by senior Trump
administrators, including two violations in connection with the 2020
RNC.
Their report outlined how these 13 officials used their authority to
influence and interfere or affect the results of the 2022 Presidential
election.
Maybe that is why she is concerned, because she saw abuses in the
previous administration. I believe this administration will uphold the
law. They stated that they will.
Mr. Chair, once again, this amendment is not germane to this bill,
and it is not necessary, but I do share the gentlewoman's concerns that
the previous administration violated the law.
I yield back the balance of my time.
The Acting CHAIR. The question is on the amendment offered by the
gentlewoman from Tennessee (Ms. Tenney).
The question was taken; and the Acting Chair announced that the ayes
appeared to have it.
Ms. McCOLLUM. Mr. Chair, I demand a recorded vote.
The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to clause 6 of rule XVIII, further
proceedings on the amendment offered by the gentlewoman from Tennessee
will be postponed.

Amendment No. 164 Offered by Ms. Tenney

The Acting CHAIR. It is now in order to consider amendment No. 164
printed in part A of House Report 118-559.
Ms. TENNEY. Mr. Chair, I have an amendment at the desk.
The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will designate the amendment.
The text of the amendment is as follows:

At the end of the bill (before the short title) insert the
following:
Sec. ___. None of the funds made available by this Act may
be used to finalize, implement, or enforce the proposed rule
of the Department of Defense, General Services
Administration, and National Aeronautics and Space
Administration titled ``Federal Acquisition Regulation:
Disclosure of Greenhouse Gas Emissions and Climate-Related
Financial Risk'' (87 Fed. Reg. 68312; published November 14,
2022).

The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to House Resolution 1316, the gentlewoman
from New York (Ms. Tenney) and a Member opposed each will control 5
minutes.
The Chair recognizes the gentlewoman from New York.
Ms. TENNEY. Mr. Chair, I rise today to offer my amendment to prohibit
any funding to finalize, implement, or enforce the Federal Acquisition
Regulation, known as FAR, Council's proposed Federal Acquisition
Regulation: Disclosure of Greenhouse Gas Emissions and Climate-Related
Financial Risk rule.
Mr. Chair, this disastrous rule proposed by the FAR Council has
numerous constitutional, national security, and practical concerns,
none of which have been adequately addressed by the FAR Council nor the
Council on Environmental Quality who have pushed for this rule.
First and foremost, this rule requires all Federal contractors that
do more than $50 million worth of business with the Federal Government
to disclose all scope 1, 2, and 3 emissions.
This rule also seeks to require major Federal contractors to comply
with the Paris Climate Accords, which has never been ratified by the
Senate.
The most objectionable part of this rule is the requirement that
companies set climate targets and have them validated by one
specifically named company called Science Based Targets Initiative, or
SBTi. SBTi is a foreign entity based in London, which inherently
carries national security concerns.
Under this rule, every major Federal contractor, including companies
critical to our national security and our defense industrial base,
would have to provide this foreign company with information about all
of their scope 1, 2, and 3 emissions and then strategize on how to
reduce them.
Despite the existence of numerous American and U.S.-based companies
that could fill the same role, the FAR Council and CEQ, Council on
Environmental Quality, chose a foreign entity as the named sole-source
provider.
Why? Because SBTi is nothing but a front for Democratic donors and
advocacy groups. SBTi is owned by the We Mean Business Coalition, which
is a project of a new venture fund, which is managed by none other than
Arabella Advisors.
Arabella Advisors, for those who do not know, is the George Soros-
funded leftwing advocacy group that funnels dark money to leftwing
causes and candidates.
To summarize, the Biden administration has named a subsidiary of one
of its top donors, a leftwing dark money organization, as the sole-
source provider for all climate target validating for all major Federal
contractors.

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During a hearing in the Science, Space, and Technology Committee on
this rule, even the Democrats' witness said that SBTi was a poor choice
for this role, yet the Biden administration forged ahead anyway.
I look forward to continuing my work with Chairman Lucas, Chairman
Obernolte, and all of my colleagues on the Science, Space, and
Technology Committee to get to the bottom of this rule's creation and
halt its implementation.
Mr. Chair, I urge all of my colleagues to support this amendment, and
I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. CASE. Mr. Chair, I claim the time in opposition.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman from Hawaii is recognized for 5
minutes.
Mr. CASE. Mr. Chair, I read this amendment carefully, and what I saw
in this amendment and the policy choices that it engages have nothing
to do with what I just heard from the proponent of this amendment, so
let me deal with the merits of this amendment as it stands and as it
relates specifically to the Department of Defense.
This amendment in that context is just another in a long line of
initiatives by my colleagues to drive out of the Department of Defense
any concern for, much less mention of, anything bearing the name of or
in any way implicating the dreaded phrase ``climate change.''

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Based on this amendment, this apparently includes any reference to
consideration of greenhouse gas emissions or extreme weather risks in
Federal procurement. All this is despite the fact that the DOD itself
is eyes wide open to the realities of climate change, as we have seen
repeatedly in this debate.
Let's unpack the real amendment here and ask ourselves what it
actually does. Very directly, first of all, this amendment would defund
any requirement by DOD that greenhouse gas emissions or climate-related
risk be disclosed by companies doing business with the Department of
Defense.
It is nothing new to utilize Federal procurement to address broader
concerns, especially when the largest procurement office in the Federal
Government is the Department of Defense. Therefore, the only real
conclusion to be reached from the amendment is that greenhouse gas
emissions and climate risks are not broader concerns, nor are they
concerns, certainly, to the Department of Defense. In fact, for the
Department of Defense in Federal Government contracting to look at this
amendment, those can't be factored in at all. They can't even be known.
Let's just take a couple of examples, and let's assume everything
else. Let's take out of this argument the false argument that somehow
it is going to detract from quality, cost, quantity. Let's equalize
that, which is all part of Federal procurement anyway. Let's just look
at the amendment itself with DOD requirements in some real examples.
Let's take an example. One proposed contractor is utilizing the
dirtiest, largest emitting, most unsustainable forms of energy for a
product while the other--quality, quantity, productivity, everything
else equal--has invested in clean energy consistent with international
emission targets, not to mention our own targets.
Should we factor that in at all in Federal procurement? Should we
even know that? Should we effectively penalize the company that is
doing the right thing and incentivize the company that is not? I think
the answer is that we should know it, and we should factor it in.
Let's take another example. One contractor has fully disclosed any
risks of extreme weather conditions on its business model, its
financial stability, its climate-related resilience preparedness, and
the continuity and predictability of operations on key supply chain
components, while the other has ignored the obvious concerns that may
lead to disruption of key components and higher costs, unexpected costs
in the procurement cycle, and fiscal insolvency.
Should we factor that in? Should we even know it in Federal
procurement? I think the answer is yes.
Clearly, in both instances, realistic and prudent defense
procurement, not to mention compelling national policy, says yes.
This amendment, at the end of the day, is grounded in the incorrect
assumption that a strong defense industrial base is fundamentally
incompatible with cleaner, sustainable energy and climate resiliency.
That is not correct. We know that, and the Department of Defense knows
that.
The Department of Defense, moreover, knows that if we don't address
climate-related risk around the world in all parts of its operations,
from operations to readiness to procurement, it faces greater risks.
Let's let the Department of Defense address these issues without
weighing in with denial, diversion, and fear-mongering.
Mr. Chair, I urge that we oppose this amendment, and I reserve the
balance of my time.
Ms. TENNEY. Mr. Chair, with all due respect, the gentleman is wrong
about this amendment. It simply states that the amendment defunds and
causes us not to fund the implementation of this particular rule. It
has nothing to do with climate change. It has nothing to do with any of
those allegations he has just set forth in his prepared notes. It is
all bluster.
This rule is about the fact that this is a sole-source contract. SBTi
was incorporated after the rule was actually made. They were looking,
trying to find a company that they could use that would get the answers
they wanted. There is no choice for any American company. No U.S.-based
company in this category has a choice. They must use this Arabella dark
money super-PAC money umbrella that is funded by leftwing George Soros
and all these organizations in order to get their contracts approved.
There isn't a choice. You can't go to anyone else. Even the Democrats
in the Science, Space, and Technology Committee admitted there was no
other choice. Here is a company created after the fact that they
needed somewhere, somebody to validate what they wanted, not to
determine what the actual science was. This isn't a debate about
climate change. It is a debate about science and making sure that our
companies have their secrets secured, that they are with American-based
companies that we can provide oversight for, and that the Department of
Defense can provide its oversight.

It is not about some kind of climate issue. It really doesn't address
that at all. It really addresses national security concerns. It
addresses the problem that we have a company that is foreign owned
which is requiring American-based companies to disclose only to them,
with no choice, a sole source.
This is not actually acceptable under DOD rules, and that is why we
want this particular rule to be held up until we can get other options
for our U.S.-based companies that ensure the security of the American
people. This is a sad attempt at trying to politicize, again, the
Department of Defense under the guise of some kind of climate rule.
Mr. Chair, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. CASE. Mr. Chair, again, let's read the amendment. There is no
mention in this amendment of this mysterious company. There is no
commitment by the Department of Defense to use a specific company. This
is a matter of disclosure. These companies have to disclose this
information to the Department of Defense.
This is also still a proposed rule, and certainly there is enough
time in the process for us to carry out any concerns over directed sole
sourcing or national security, which I think is just a red herring.
Of course, this is about climate change. Of course, this is about a
continued effort to deny climate change.
Mr. Chair, I urge opposition to the amendment, and I yield back the
balance of my time.
The Acting CHAIR. The question is on the amendment offered by the
gentlewoman from New York (Ms. Tenney).
The question was taken; and the Acting Chair announced that the ayes
appeared to have it.
Mr. CASE. Mr. Chair, I demand a recorded vote.
The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to clause 6 of rule XVIII, further
proceedings on the amendment offered by the gentlewoman from New York
will be postponed.
Ms. McCOLLUM. Mr. Chair, I rise as the designee of the gentlewoman
from Connecticut (Ms. DeLauro), and I move to strike the last word.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentlewoman from Minnesota is recognized for 5
minutes.
Ms. McCOLLUM. Mr. Chair, I yield to the gentleman from Illinois (Mr.
Quigley), the distinguished ranking member of the Transportation,
Housing and Urban Development, and Related Agencies Subcommittee.
Mr. QUIGLEY. Mr. Chair, I cannot in good faith support this
legislation without the inclusion of funding for the Ukraine Security
Assistance Initiative.
For this reason, at the appropriate time, I will offer a motion to
recommit this bill back to committee. If the House rules permitted, I
would have offered the motion with an important amendment to this bill.
My amendment would protect funding for the Ukraine Security
Assistance Initiative that has been included in this Defense
appropriations bill since 2016.
USAI is a major reason why the Ukrainian army is a much different,
much better army than it was when the Russians took Crimea a decade
ago. This program is central to the strategy to help Ukraine fight
Russian aggression and, therefore, central to our own efforts to
protect democracy across the globe.
Ukraine's battle for its independence has not ended. Our support for
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this room voted to provide $61 billion in supplemental funding for
Ukraine, but it is important to remember that $13 billion went to
replenish U.S. equipment, $7 billion went to strengthen our industrial
base and to increase weapons production, and $7 billion went to bolster
U.S. forces in Europe and the Middle East. It is still not enough.
As recently as March, Russia was firing around 10,000 shells a day
compared to just 2,000 from the Ukrainian side. Putin has, indeed,
doubled down, dramatically increasing his military production to the
point of 29 percent of his budget.
USAI allows Ukraine to purchase weapons and equipment directly from
U.S. manufacturers. An investment in this initiative is an investment
in our own economy, not a handout. The program has been used to
integrate the Ukraine military with Western militaries, increasing
their capabilities and training their soldiers, but it is critical to
understand that the Department of Defense has committed $8.2 billion of
the approximately $13.8 billion in USAI funding appropriated through
the Ukraine supplemental and anticipates committing the remainder of
the funds by the end of calendar year 2024.
At the end of the debate, I will insert into the Record the text of
this amendment, and I hope my colleagues will join me in voting for the
motion to recommit.
If we fail to continue this funding, we would effectively signal to
authoritarian leaders with expansionist ambition around the world that
the U.S. will allow them to act with impunity.
Mr. Chair, I include in the Record the text of the amendment.

Mr. Quigley moves to recommit the bill H.R. 8774 to the
Committee on Appropriations with the following amendment:
Page 128, line 4, after the dollar amount insert
``(increased by $300,000,000)''.
At the end of the bill, before the short title, insert
following:
Sec. __. For an additional amount for ``Operation and
Maintenance, Defense-Wide'', for the Defense Security
Cooperation Agency, $300,000,000, to remain available until
September 30, 2026, shall be for the Ukraine Security
Assistance Initiative: Provided, That, such funds shall be
available to the Secretary of Defense, with the concurrence
of the Secretary of State, to provide assistance, including
training; equipment; lethal assistance; logistics support,
supplies and services; salaries and stipends; sustainment;
and intelligence support to the military and national
security forces of Ukraine, and to other forces or groups
recognized by and under the authority of the Government of
Ukraine, including governmental entities within Ukraine,
engaged in resisting Russian aggression against Ukraine for
replacement of any weapons or articles provided to the
Government of Ukraine from the inventory of the United
States, and to recover or dispose of equipment procured using
funds made available in this section in this or prior Acts:
Provided further, That the Secretary of Defense shall, not
less than 15 days prior to obligating funds made available in
this section, notify the congressional defense committees in
writing of the details of any such obligation: Provided
further, That the Secretary of Defense shall, not more than
60 days after such notification is made, inform such
committees if such funds have not been obligated and the
reasons therefor: Provided further, That the Secretary of
Defense shall consult with such committees in advance of the
provision of support provided to other forces or groups
recognized by and under the authority of the Government of
Ukraine: Provided further, That the United States may accept
equipment procured using funds made available in this section
in this or prior Acts transferred to the security forces of
Ukraine and returned by such forces to the United States:
Provided further, That equipment procured using funds made
available in this section in this or prior Acts, and not yet
transferred to the military or national security forces of
Ukraine or to other assisted entities, or returned by such
forces or other assisted entities to the United States, may
be treated as stocks of the Department of Defense upon
written notification to the congressional defense committees:
Provided further, That any notification of funds made
available in this section shall specify an estimated timeline
for the delivery of defense articles and defense services
provided and shall identify if any equipment provided
requires enhanced end-use monitoring: Provided further, That
the Secretary of Defense may accept and retain contributions,
including money, personal property, and services, from
foreign governments and other entities, to carry out
assistance authorized for the Ukraine Security Assistance
Initiative in this section: Provided further, That the
Secretary of Defense shall notify the congressional defense
committees in writing upon the receipt and upon the
obligation of any contribution, delineating the sources and
amounts of the funds received and the specific use of such
contributions: Provided further, That contributions of money
for the purposes provided herein from any foreign government
or other entity may be credited to this account, to remain
available until September 30, 2026, and used for such
purposes: Provided further, That the Secretary of Defense
shall provide quarterly reports to the congressional defense
committees on the use and status of funds made available in
this section.

Ms. McCOLLUM. Mr. Chair, I thank the gentleman from Illinois (Mr.
Quigley) for the MTR, and I look forward to voting for it.
Let me just add, the Ukrainian Supplemental Assistance Initiative has
long-term spending which has been in the bill since 2016. As the
gentleman pointed out, that is one of the reasons why Ukraine was ready
to stand up to this unjustified, hostile invasion by Russia.
Let us work together and coordinate closely with our allies. Let us
support the MTR.
Mr. Chair, I yield back the balance of my time.

Amendment No. 171 Offered by Ms. Titus

The Acting CHAIR. It is now in order to consider amendment No. 171
printed in part A of House Report 118-559.
Ms. TITUS. Mr. Chair, I have an amendment at the desk.
The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will designate the amendment.
The text of the amendment is as follows:

At the end of the bill (before the short title), insert the
following:
Sec. __. None of the funds made available by this Act may
be used to acquire, use, transfer, or sell cluster munitions.

The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to House Resolution 1316, the gentlewoman
from Nevada (Ms. Titus) and a Member opposed each will control 5
minutes.
The Chair recognizes the gentlewoman from Nevada.
Ms. TITUS. Mr. Chairman, I rise in support of this vital amendment to
prohibit funds in the bill from being used to acquire, use, sell, or
transfer cluster munitions, in an effort to avert more widespread harm
to civilians in areas contaminated with unexploded ordnance.
Cluster bombs are not winning weapons but indiscriminate munitions
that blanket large areas, contaminating land and inflicting
disproportionate harm on civilians. Cluster munitions are shells that
contain dozens of smaller bomblets that disperse into the air and
scatter over areas the size of several football fields. Their lack of
precision-targeting capabilities increases the risk of their falling
into civilian areas and makes it very difficult to decontaminate those
bombed areas.
The extreme threat to civilians, furthermore, that these weapons pose
far outweighs any potential military benefit.
The ``2023 Cluster Munition Monitor'' report found there were at
least 1,172 new cluster munition casualties globally in 2022. That is
the highest annual number of casualties since at least 2010. In 2022,
civilians accounted for approximately 95 percent of all cluster
munitions casualties, and of that 95 percent, children accounted for
over 70 percent of the civilian casualties.
Thousands of communities across Southeast Asia, the Caucasus, and
Eastern Europe face lingering dangers from landmines and explosive
remnants of war, dating back to World War II, the Vietnam war, and the
Indochina wars, with many of the Pacific Island nations still
contaminated with unexploded ordnance following World War II battles
between Japan and Allied forces. Laos, the most heavily bombed country
per capita in history, has suffered an estimated 50,000 civilian
casualties from explosive remnants of war since 1964. Cambodia and
Vietnam have seen over 64,000 and 105,000 casualties, respectively,
since 1975.

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The 2008 Convention on Cluster Munitions has 112 party states and 12
signatories, including the majority of our NATO allies. The transfer of
these weapons by the U.S. is contrary to the global norm against the
use, transfer, and stockpiling of cluster munitions. There is a reason
why the vast majority of the international community has banned these
weapons, and it is time for the U.S. to do the same.
Mr. Chair, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. CALVERT. Mr. Chair, I claim the time in opposition the amendment.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman from California is recognized for 5
minutes.

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Mr. CALVERT. Mr. Chair, Ukraine is in a fight for its survival, and
artillery has been a critical part in its defense. Cluster munitions
are needed to fill a gap until production of 155-millimeter rounds can
catch up. We have a shortage of those rounds.
The Russians have been using cluster munitions for over 2\1/2\ years,
since the beginning of this conflict. We should not limit Ukraine's
ability to respond in kind.
Moreover, the amendment goes beyond prohibiting the transfer of
cluster munitions to Ukraine. It would tie our hands in future
conflicts, prohibiting the option to use these munitions in
contingencies where the only other option are larger munitions that
cause even more casualties.
Additionally, it is not hard to imagine a situation where we might
need to transfer these munitions to other allies and partners, such as
Taiwan or South Korea. We should not impede our own defense or that of
our allies and partners with a complete prohibition on cluster
munitions.
Mr. Chair, I urge a ``no'' vote, and I reserve the balance of my
time.
Ms. TITUS. Mr. Chair, may I inquire as to how much time is remaining.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentlewoman from Nevada has 2 minutes
remaining.
Ms. TITUS. Mr. Chair, I yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman from
Minnesota (Ms. McCollum), the ranking member of the subcommittee.
Ms. McCOLLUM. Mr. Chair, I rise in support of this amendment.
In the case of Ukraine, I continue to remain concerned that allowing
these munitions to go onto the battlefield undermines our moral
authority and places the United States in a position that contradicts
23 of our NATO allies, who have joined the convention on cluster mines.
To be clear, though, I am a strong supporter of the Biden
administration's policy in Ukraine. This is a difficult position that
the Ukrainian military has been put in.
Yes, Russia has used these types of munitions inside of Ukraine. When
we were short on delivering the security that we promised Ukraine,
cluster bombs became something that the administration put in the mix.
I wasn't supportive of that, but I do realize that this is the choice
between the lesser of two evils in the war that Ukraine has been forced
to fight because of the Russian invasion.
I want to get to a place where we don't have these choices in front
of us and where we are not transferring these weapons.
Mr. Chair, regrettably at this time, I will be unable to vote for
passage of this bill.
And I cannot recommend to my colleagues that they support it.
Every Member in this chamber knows what needs to happen for this bill
to become law.
The partisan riders need to come out so the bill can get bipartisan
support.
Instead the bill now includes additional divisive amendments today
that will further jeopardize Congress' ability to enact a Defense
appropriations bill on time.
And in doing so we are failing to heed Churchill's advice--to learn
from history--and not repeat the mistakes from last year.
Mr. CALVERT. Mr. Chair, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Arkansas (Mr. Crawford).
Mr. CRAWFORD. Mr. Chair, I thank the chairman for yielding me time.
I rise today in support of the cluster munitions prohibition
amendment.
We have heard from Members speaking in favor of this amendment, and I
would like to echo their concerns from a military perspective.
Cluster munitions do kill innocent civilians, but they also are
incredibly deadly to U.S. military personnel as well.
The vast majority of cluster munitions lack a self-destruct
capability and have failure rates of 2 to 40 percent.
With many of these war-torn nations unable to adequately address
their own UXO clearance operations, often due to a lack of having their
own EOD-trained personnel, this is where the United States military
steps in.
Through programs like the Humanitarian Demining Research and
Development Program and the Humanitarian Mine Action Program, the U.S.
Department of Defense sends highly skilled EOD personnel to provide
demining assistance to partner nations post-conflict.
This means that even if the United States is not directly involved in
a conflict, we send America's EOD personnel into harm's way when they
conduct clearance operations.
President Biden has provided Ukraine with cluster munitions for use
against Russia, and anyone would be a fool to believe that when the
Ukraine-Russia conflict is over, American EOD personnel will not be
sent to assist in post-conflict clearance operations.
On my last visit to the EOD Memorial Wall at Eglin Air Force Base, I
reread the names of 344 fallen EOD technicians. If we don't support the
cluster munitions prohibition amendment, we will be adding more names
to that wall.
As a founder and co-chair of the Congressional Explosive Ordnance
Disposal Caucus, it is my duty to be a voice in Congress for America's
EOD personnel.
Mr. Chair, I urge my colleagues to support the amendment.
Mr. CALVERT. Mr. Chair, this is the final point I would make. The dud
rate on the Russian cluster munitions exceeds 30 percent where the dud
rate of the U.S. munition is extremely low.
It is a terrible weapon. War is a terrible thing. These weapons are
necessary for us to have our allies win. I would ask that we defeat
this amendment, and I yield back the balance of my time.
Ms. TITUS. Mr. Chair, I thank the gentleman from Arkansas for
pointing out the danger of these weapons, not just to the victims but
also to our own troops.
As far as the dud rates go, the Department of Defense has indeed
stated DPICMs have a low dud rate, 2.35 percent, as the Department has
said. This figure, however, does not tell the whole story.
The DOD tests the dud rate by dropping bomblets on a concrete
surface. Obviously, every little bomblet will detonate on concrete, but
that is not representative of the environments where they are deployed.
When cluster munitions are dropped in mud, snow, marshes, and certain
soft terrain, that dud rate skyrockets upwards of 50 percent.
The DOD's announced dud rate figure cannot be taken at face value,
and constructing an argument against this amendment solely based on
that foundation is truly flawed.
I just point out, again, the damage that is done to humanity by these
weapons, and the majority of those who are casualties are children.
Mr. Chair, I yield back the balance of my time.
The Acting CHAIR. The question is on the amendment offered by the
gentlewoman from Nevada (Ms. Titus).
The question was taken; and the Acting Chair announced that the noes
appeared to have it.
Ms. TITUS. Mr. Chair, I demand a recorded vote.
The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to clause 6 of rule XVIII, further
proceedings on the amendment offered by the gentlewoman from Nevada
will be postponed.

Announcement by the Acting Chair

The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to clause 6 of rule XVIII, proceedings
will now resume on those amendments printed in part A of House Report
118-559 on which further proceedings were postponed, in the following
order:
Amendment No. 163 by Ms. Tenney of New York.
Amendment No. 164 by Ms. Tenney of New York.
Amendment No. 171 by Ms. Titus of Nevada.
The Chair will reduce to 2 minutes the minimum time for any
electronic vote after the first vote in this series.

Amendment No. 163 Offered by Ms. Tenney

The Acting CHAIR. The unfinished business is the demand for a
recorded vote on amendment No. 163, printed in part A of House Report
118-559, offered by the gentlewoman from New York (Ms. Tenney), on
which further proceedings were postponed and on which the ayes
prevailed by voice vote.
The Clerk will redesignate the amendment.
The Clerk redesignated the amendment.

Recorded Vote

The Acting CHAIR. A recorded vote has been demanded.
A recorded vote was ordered.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 201,
noes 187, not voting 50, as follows:

[[Page H4420]]

[Roll No. 327]

AYES--201

Aderholt
Alford
Allen
Amodei
Armstrong
Babin
Bacon
Baird
Balderson
Banks
Bean (FL)
Bentz
Bergman
Bice
Biggs
Bilirakis
Bishop (NC)
Boebert
Brecheen
Buchanan
Bucshon
Burchett
Burgess
Burlison
Calvert
Cammack
Carey
Carl
Carter (GA)
Carter (TX)
Chavez-DeRemer
Ciscomani
Cline
Cloud
Clyde
Cole
Collins
Comer
Crane
Crawford
Curtis
D'Esposito
Davidson
De La Cruz
DesJarlais
Diaz-Balart
Donalds
Duarte
Duncan
Dunn (FL)
Edwards
Ellzey
Emmer
Estes
Ezell
Fallon
Feenstra
Ferguson
Finstad
Fischbach
Fitzgerald
Fleischmann
Flood
Fong
Foxx
Franklin, Scott
Fry
Fulcher
Gaetz
Garbarino
Garcia, Mike
Gimenez
Gonzales, Tony
Good (VA)
Gooden (TX)
Gosar
Granger
Graves (LA)
Graves (MO)
Greene (GA)
Griffith
Grothman
Guest
Guthrie
Hageman
Harris
Harshbarger
Hern
Higgins (LA)
Hill
Hinson
Houchin
Hudson
Huizenga
Hunt
Issa
Johnson (LA)
Johnson (SD)
Jordan
Joyce (PA)
Kean (NJ)
Kelly (MS)
Kelly (PA)
Kiggans (VA)
Kiley
Kim (CA)
Kustoff
LaLota
LaMalfa
Lamborn
Langworthy
Latta
LaTurner
Lawler
Lee (FL)
Lesko
Letlow
Loudermilk
Lucas
Luetkemeyer
Luna
Luttrell
Mace
Malliotakis
Maloy
Mann
Mast
McCaul
McClain
McClintock
McCormick
Meuser
Miller (IL)
Miller (OH)
Miller (WV)
Mills
Molinaro
Mooney
Moore (AL)
Moore (UT)
Moran
Nehls
Newhouse
Norman
Nunn (IA)
Obernolte
Owens
Palmer
Pence
Perry
Pfluger
Posey
Reschenthaler
Rodgers (WA)
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rose
Rosendale
Rouzer
Roy
Rulli
Rutherford
Salazar
Scalise
Schweikert
Scott, Austin
Self
Sessions
Simpson
Smith (MO)
Smith (NE)
Smith (NJ)
Smucker
Steel
Stefanik
Steil
Steube
Strong
Tenney
Thompson (PA)
Tiffany
Timmons
Turner
Valadao
Van Drew
Van Duyne
Van Orden
Wagner
Walberg
Waltz
Weber (TX)
Webster (FL)
Wenstrup
Westerman
Williams (NY)
Williams (TX)
Wilson (SC)
Wittman
Womack
Yakym
Zinke

NOES--187

Adams
Aguilar
Allred
Amo
Auchincloss
Balint
Barragan
Beatty
Bera
Beyer
Bishop (GA)
Blumenauer
Blunt Rochester
Bonamici
Boyle (PA)
Brown
Brownley
Budzinski
Caraveo
Carbajal
Cardenas
Carson
Carter (LA)
Cartwright
Casar
Case
Casten
Castor (FL)
Castro (TX)
Cherfilus-McCormick
Chu
Clark (MA)
Clarke (NY)
Cleaver
Cohen
Correa
Costa
Courtney
Craig
Crockett
Crow
Cuellar
Davids (KS)
Davis (IL)
Davis (NC)
Dean (PA)
DeGette
DelBene
Deluzio
DeSaulnier
Dingell
Doggett
Escobar
Eshoo
Espaillat
Fitzpatrick
Fletcher
Foster
Foushee
Frankel, Lois
Frost
Garamendi
Garcia (IL)
Garcia (TX)
Garcia, Robert
Golden (ME)
Goldman (NY)
Gomez
Gonzalez, Vicente
Green, Al (TX)
Harder (CA)
Hayes
Himes
Houlahan
Hoyer
Hoyle (OR)
Ivey
Jackson (NC)
Jacobs
Jayapal
Jeffries
Johnson (GA)
Kamlager-Dove
Kaptur
Keating
Kelly (IL)
Kennedy
Khanna
Kildee
Kilmer
Kim (NJ)
Krishnamoorthi
Landsman
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Lee (CA)
Lee (NV)
Lee (PA)
Leger Fernandez
Levin
Lieu
Lofgren
Lynch
Magaziner
Matsui
McBath
McClellan
McCollum
McGarvey
McGovern
Meeks
Menendez
Meng
Mfume
Moore (WI)
Moskowitz
Moulton
Mrvan
Mullin
Napolitano
Neguse
Nickel
Norcross
Norton
Omar
Pallone
Panetta
Pappas
Pelosi
Peltola
Perez
Peters
Pettersen
Pingree
Plaskett
Pocan
Pressley
Quigley
Ramirez
Raskin
Ross
Ruiz
Ryan
Sablan
Salinas
Sanchez
Sarbanes
Scanlon
Schiff
Schneider
Scholten
Schrier
Scott (VA)
Scott, David
Sherman
Sherrill
Slotkin
Smith (WA)
Soto
Spanberger
Stansbury
Stanton
Stevens
Strickland
Suozzi
Swalwell
Sykes
Takano
Thanedar
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Tlaib
Tokuda
Tonko
Torres (CA)
Torres (NY)
Trahan
Underwood
Vargas
Veasey
Velazquez
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Wexton
Wild
Williams (GA)
Wilson (FL)

NOT VOTING--50

Arrington
Barr
Bost
Bowman
Bush
Clyburn
Connolly
Crenshaw
DeLauro
Evans
Gallego
Gonzalez-Colon
Gottheimer
Green (TN)
Grijalva
Horsford
Huffman
Jackson (IL)
Jackson (TX)
Jackson Lee
James
Joyce (OH)
Kuster
LaHood
Manning
Massie
McHenry
Miller-Meeks
Moolenaar
Morelle
Moylan
Murphy
Nadler
Neal
Ocasio-Cortez
Ogles
Pascrell
Phillips
Porter
Radewagen
Ruppersberger
Schakowsky
Sewell
Sorensen
Spartz
Stauber
Titus
Trone
Vasquez
Watson Coleman

Announcement by the Acting Chair

The Acting CHAIR (Mr. Weber of Texas)(during the vote). There is 1
minute remaining.

{time} 1013

Messrs. SUOZZI and JACKSON of North Carolina changed their vote from
``aye'' to ``no.''
Ms. GRANGER changed her vote from ``no'' to ``aye.''
So the amendment was agreed to.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
Stated for:
Mr. BARR. Mr. Chair, had I been present, I would have voted AYE on
Roll Call No. 327.
Mr. JACKSON of Texas. Mr. Chair, I arrived just after the vote closed
on the floor. Had I been present, I would have voted AYE on Roll Call
No. 327.
Mrs. MILLER-MEEKS. Mr. Chair, had I been present, I would have voted
AYE on Roll Call No. 327.
Stated against:
Mr. GOTTHEIMER. Mr. Chair, I missed the following vote, but had I
been present, I would have voted NO on Roll Call No. 327.
Ms. MANNING. Mr. Chair, I was unable to be recorded on Roll Call No.
327. Had I been present, I would have voted NO on Roll Call No. 327.

Amendment No. 164 Offered by Ms. Tenney

The Acting CHAIR. The unfinished business is the demand for a
recorded vote on amendment No. 164, printed in part A of House Report
118-559, offered by the gentlewoman from New York (Ms. Tenney), on
which further proceedings were postponed and on which the ayes
prevailed by voice vote.
The Clerk will redesignate the amendment.
The Clerk redesignated the amendment.

Recorded Vote

The Acting CHAIR. A recorded vote has been demanded.
A recorded vote was ordered.
The Acting CHAIR. This is a
2-minute vote.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 211,
noes 199, not voting 28, as follows:

[Roll No. 328]

AYES--211

Aderholt
Alford
Allen
Amodei
Armstrong
Babin
Bacon
Baird
Balderson
Banks
Barr
Bean (FL)
Bentz
Bergman
Bice
Biggs
Bilirakis
Bishop (NC)
Boebert
Bost
Brecheen
Buchanan
Bucshon
Burchett
Burgess
Burlison
Calvert
Cammack
Carey
Carl
Carter (GA)
Carter (TX)
Chavez-DeRemer
Ciscomani
Cline
Cloud
Clyde
Cole
Collins
Comer
Crane
Crawford
Cuellar
Curtis
D'Esposito
Davidson
De La Cruz
DesJarlais
Diaz-Balart
Donalds
Duarte
Duncan
Dunn (FL)
Edwards
Ellzey
Emmer
Estes
Ezell
Fallon
Feenstra
Ferguson
Finstad
Fischbach
Fitzgerald
Fleischmann
Flood
Fong
Foxx
Franklin, Scott
Fry
Fulcher
Gaetz
Garbarino
Garcia, Mike
Gimenez
Golden (ME)
Gonzales, Tony
Good (VA)
Gooden (TX)
Gosar
Granger
Graves (LA)
Graves (MO)
Greene (GA)
Griffith
Grothman
Guest
Guthrie
Hageman
Harris
Harshbarger
Hern
Higgins (LA)
Hill
Hinson
Houchin
Hudson
Hunt
Issa
Jackson (TX)
James
Johnson (LA)
Johnson (SD)
Jordan
Joyce (OH)
Joyce (PA)
Kean (NJ)
Kelly (MS)
Kelly (PA)
Kiggans (VA)
Kiley
Kim (CA)
Kustoff
LaLota
LaMalfa
Lamborn
Langworthy
Latta
LaTurner
Lawler
Lee (FL)
Lesko
Letlow
Loudermilk
Lucas
Luetkemeyer
Luna
Luttrell
Mace
Malliotakis
Maloy
Mann
Mast
McCaul
McClain
McClintock
McCormick
Meuser
Miller (IL)
Miller (OH)
Miller (WV)
Miller-Meeks
Mills
Molinaro
Mooney
Moore (AL)
Moore (UT)
Moran
Nehls
Newhouse
Norman
Nunn (IA)
Obernolte
Ogles
Owens
Palmer
Peltola
Pence
Perez
Perry
Pfluger
Posey
Reschenthaler
Rodgers (WA)
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rose
Rosendale
Rouzer
Roy
Rulli
Rutherford
Salazar
Scalise
Schweikert
Scott, Austin
Self
Sessions
Simpson
Smith (MO)
Smith (NE)
Smith (NJ)
Smucker
Steel
Stefanik
Steil
Steube
Strong
Tenney
Thompson (PA)
Tiffany
Timmons
Turner
Valadao
Van Drew
Van Duyne
Van Orden
Wagner
Walberg
Waltz
Weber (TX)
Webster (FL)
Wenstrup
Westerman
Williams (NY)
Williams (TX)
Wilson (SC)
Wittman
Womack
Yakym
Zinke

[[Page H4421]]

NOES--199

Adams
Aguilar
Allred
Amo
Auchincloss
Balint
Barragan
Beatty
Bera
Beyer
Bishop (GA)
Blumenauer
Blunt Rochester
Bonamici
Boyle (PA)
Brown
Brownley
Budzinski
Caraveo
Carbajal
Cardenas
Carson
Carter (LA)
Cartwright
Casar
Case
Casten
Castor (FL)
Castro (TX)
Cherfilus-McCormick
Chu
Clark (MA)
Clarke (NY)
Cleaver
Clyburn
Cohen
Connolly
Correa
Costa
Courtney
Craig
Crockett
Crow
Davids (KS)
Davis (IL)
Davis (NC)
Dean (PA)
DeGette
DeLauro
DelBene
Deluzio
DeSaulnier
Dingell
Doggett
Escobar
Eshoo
Espaillat
Fitzpatrick
Fletcher
Foster
Foushee
Frankel, Lois
Frost
Gallego
Garamendi
Garcia (IL)
Garcia (TX)
Garcia, Robert
Goldman (NY)
Gomez
Gonzalez, Vicente
Gottheimer
Green, Al (TX)
Harder (CA)
Hayes
Himes
Horsford
Houlahan
Hoyer
Hoyle (OR)
Ivey
Jackson (IL)
Jackson (NC)
Jacobs
Jayapal
Jeffries
Johnson (GA)
Kamlager-Dove
Kaptur
Keating
Kelly (IL)
Kennedy
Khanna
Kildee
Kilmer
Kim (NJ)
Krishnamoorthi
Landsman
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Lee (CA)
Lee (NV)
Lee (PA)
Leger Fernandez
Levin
Lieu
Lofgren
Lynch
Magaziner
Manning
Matsui
McBath
McClellan
McCollum
McGarvey
McGovern
Meeks
Menendez
Meng
Mfume
Moore (WI)
Morelle
Moskowitz
Moulton
Mrvan
Mullin
Napolitano
Neal
Neguse
Nickel
Norcross
Norton
Omar
Pallone
Panetta
Pappas
Pascrell
Pelosi
Peters
Pettersen
Pingree
Plaskett
Pocan
Pressley
Quigley
Ramirez
Raskin
Ross
Ruiz
Ruppersberger
Ryan
Sablan
Salinas
Sanchez
Sarbanes
Scanlon
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schneider
Scholten
Schrier
Scott (VA)
Scott, David
Sherman
Sherrill
Slotkin
Smith (WA)
Soto
Spanberger
Stansbury
Stanton
Stevens
Strickland
Suozzi
Swalwell
Sykes
Takano
Thanedar
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Titus
Tlaib
Tokuda
Tonko
Torres (CA)
Torres (NY)
Trahan
Trone
Underwood
Vargas
Vasquez
Veasey
Velazquez
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Wexton
Wild
Williams (GA)
Wilson (FL)

NOT VOTING--28

Arrington
Bowman
Bush
Crenshaw
Evans
Gonzalez-Colon
Green (TN)
Grijalva
Huffman
Huizenga
Jackson Lee
Kuster
LaHood
Massie
McHenry
Moolenaar
Moylan
Murphy
Nadler
Ocasio-Cortez
Phillips
Porter
Radewagen
Sewell
Sorensen
Spartz
Stauber
Watson Coleman

Announcement by the Acting Chair

The Acting CHAIR (during the vote). There is 1 minute remaining.

{time} 1018

So the amendment was agreed to.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
Stated for:
Mr. HUIZENGA. Mr. Chair, I missed a vote today. Had I been present, I
would have voted AYE on Roll Call No. 328.

Amendment No. 171 Offered by Ms. Titus

The Acting CHAIR. The unfinished business is the demand for a
recorded vote on amendment No. 171, printed in part A of House Report
118-559, offered by the gentlewoman from Nevada (Ms. Titus), on which
further proceedings were postponed and on which the noes prevailed by
voice vote.
The Clerk will redesignate the amendment.
The Clerk redesignated the amendment.

Recorded Vote

The Acting CHAIR. A recorded vote has been demanded.
A recorded vote was ordered.
The Acting CHAIR. This is a 2-minute vote.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 129,
noes 284, not voting 24, as follows:

[Roll No. 329]

AYES--129

Adams
Balint
Barragan
Bean (FL)
Biggs
Bilirakis
Bishop (NC)
Blumenauer
Boebert
Bonamici
Brecheen
Burchett
Burlison
Cammack
Cardenas
Carl
Carson
Casar
Castro (TX)
Chu
Cleaver
Cloud
Collins
Comer
Connolly
Correa
Crane
Crawford
Crockett
Curtis
Dean (PA)
DeGette
DeSaulnier
Dingell
Doggett
Donalds
Duncan
Emmer
Ezell
Ferguson
Finstad
Fischbach
Frankel, Lois
Frost
Fry
Gaetz
Garcia (IL)
Garcia, Robert
Gomez
Good (VA)
Gosar
Green, Al (TX)
Greene (GA)
Hageman
Harshbarger
Hayes
Houlahan
Hoyle (OR)
Hunt
Issa
Ivey
Jacobs
Jayapal
Johnson (GA)
Jordan
Kamlager-Dove
Kaptur
Khanna
Kildee
Kim (CA)
Kim (NJ)
Larsen (WA)
Lee (CA)
Lee (PA)
Leger Fernandez
Luna
Luttrell
Lynch
Maloy
McCollum
McGovern
Meng
Mfume
Miller (OH)
Mills
Mooney
Moore (AL)
Moore (UT)
Moore (WI)
Napolitano
Neal
Neguse
Nehls
Ocasio-Cortez
Ogles
Omar
Owens
Peltola
Pocan
Posey
Pressley
Ramirez
Raskin
Reschenthaler
Rosendale
Ruiz
Sablan
Salinas
Sanchez
Sarbanes
Scanlon
Schakowsky
Schiff
Scott (VA)
Smith (NJ)
Tenney
Thompson (PA)
Titus
Tlaib
Tokuda
Tonko
Trahan
Van Duyne
Vargas
Velazquez
Wild
Williams (GA)
Wilson (FL)
Zinke

NOES--284

Aderholt
Aguilar
Alford
Allen
Allred
Amo
Amodei
Armstrong
Arrington
Auchincloss
Babin
Bacon
Baird
Balderson
Banks
Barr
Beatty
Bentz
Bera
Bergman
Beyer
Bice
Bishop (GA)
Blunt Rochester
Bost
Boyle (PA)
Brown
Brownley
Buchanan
Bucshon
Budzinski
Burgess
Calvert
Caraveo
Carbajal
Carey
Carter (GA)
Carter (LA)
Carter (TX)
Cartwright
Case
Casten
Castor (FL)
Chavez-DeRemer
Cherfilus-McCormick
Ciscomani
Clark (MA)
Clarke (NY)
Cline
Clyburn
Clyde
Cohen
Cole
Courtney
Craig
Crenshaw
Crow
Cuellar
D'Esposito
Davids (KS)
Davidson
Davis (IL)
Davis (NC)
De La Cruz
DeLauro
DelBene
Deluzio
DesJarlais
Diaz-Balart
Duarte
Dunn (FL)
Edwards
Ellzey
Escobar
Eshoo
Espaillat
Estes
Fallon
Feenstra
Fitzgerald
Fitzpatrick
Fleischmann
Fletcher
Flood
Fong
Foster
Foushee
Foxx
Franklin, Scott
Fulcher
Gallego
Garamendi
Garbarino
Garcia (TX)
Garcia, Mike
Gimenez
Golden (ME)
Goldman (NY)
Gonzales, Tony
Gonzalez, Vicente
Gooden (TX)
Gottheimer
Granger
Graves (LA)
Graves (MO)
Griffith
Grothman
Guest
Guthrie
Harder (CA)
Harris
Hern
Higgins (LA)
Hill
Himes
Hinson
Horsford
Houchin
Hoyer
Hudson
Huffman
Huizenga
Jackson (IL)
Jackson (NC)
Jackson (TX)
James
Jeffries
Johnson (SD)
Joyce (OH)
Joyce (PA)
Kean (NJ)
Keating
Kelly (IL)
Kelly (MS)
Kelly (PA)
Kennedy
Kiggans (VA)
Kiley
Kilmer
Krishnamoorthi
Kustoff
LaLota
LaMalfa
Lamborn
Landsman
Langworthy
Larson (CT)
Latta
LaTurner
Lawler
Lee (FL)
Lee (NV)
Lesko
Letlow
Levin
Lieu
Lofgren
Loudermilk
Lucas
Luetkemeyer
Mace
Magaziner
Malliotakis
Mann
Manning
Mast
Matsui
McBath
McCaul
McClain
McClellan
McClintock
McCormick
McGarvey
Meeks
Menendez
Meuser
Miller (IL)
Miller (WV)
Miller-Meeks
Molinaro
Moran
Morelle
Moskowitz
Moulton
Mrvan
Mullin
Newhouse
Nickel
Norcross
Norman
Norton
Nunn (IA)
Obernolte
Pallone
Palmer
Panetta
Pappas
Pascrell
Pelosi
Pence
Perez
Perry
Peters
Pettersen
Pfluger
Pingree
Plaskett
Quigley
Rodgers (WA)
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rose
Ross
Rouzer
Roy
Rulli
Ruppersberger
Rutherford
Ryan
Salazar
Scalise
Schneider
Scholten
Schrier
Schweikert
Scott, Austin
Scott, David
Self
Sessions
Sherman
Sherrill
Simpson
Slotkin
Smith (MO)
Smith (NE)
Smith (WA)
Smucker
Soto
Spanberger
Stansbury
Stanton
Steel
Stefanik
Steil
Steube
Stevens
Strickland
Strong
Suozzi
Swalwell
Sykes
Takano
Thanedar
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Tiffany
Timmons
Torres (CA)
Torres (NY)
Trone
Turner
Underwood
Valadao
Van Drew
Van Orden
Vasquez
Veasey
Wagner
Walberg
Waltz
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Weber (TX)
Webster (FL)
Wenstrup
Westerman
Wexton
Williams (NY)
Williams (TX)
Wilson (SC)
Wittman
Womack
Yakym

NOT VOTING--24

Bowman
Bush
Costa
Evans
Gonzalez-Colon
Green (TN)
Grijalva
Jackson Lee
Kuster
LaHood
Massie
McHenry
Moolenaar
Moylan
Murphy
Nadler
Phillips
Porter
Radewagen
Sewell
Sorensen
Spartz
Stauber
Watson Coleman

{time} 1023

Mr. JAMES changed his vote from ``aye'' to ``no.''
So the amendment was rejected.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
Stated against:
Ms. LOIS FRANKEL of Florida. Mr. Chair, during Roll Call Vote No. 329
on H.R. 8774, I mistakenly recorded my vote as Aye when I should have
voted No.

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The Acting CHAIR. There being no further amendments, under the rule,
the Committee rises.
Accordingly, the Committee rose; and the Speaker pro tempore (Mr.
Weber of Texas) having assumed the chair, Mr. Meuser, Acting Chair of
the Committee of the Whole House on the state of the Union, reported
that that Committee, having had under consideration the bill (H.R.
8774) making appropriations for the Department of Defense for the
fiscal year ending September 30, 2025, and for other purposes, and,
pursuant to House Resolution 1316, reported the bill, as amended by
that resolution, back to the House with sundry further amendments in
the Committee of the Whole.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under the rule, the previous question is
ordered.
Is a separate vote demanded on any amendment reported from the
Committee of the Whole? If not, the Chair will put them en gros.
The amendments were agreed to.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the engrossment and third
reading of the bill.
The bill was ordered to be engrossed and read a third time, and was
read the third time.

{time} 1030

Motion to Recommit

Mr. QUIGLEY. Mr. Speaker, I have a motion to recommit at the desk.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Clerk will report the motion to
recommit.
The Clerk read as follows:

Mr. Quigley of Illinois moves to recommit the bill H.R.
8774 to the Committee on Appropriations.

The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to clause 2(b) of rule XIX, the
previous question is ordered on the motion to recommit.
The question is on the motion to recommit.
The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that
the noes appeared to have it.
Mr. QUIGLEY. Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.
The yeas and nays were ordered.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to clause 9 of rule XX, this 5-
minute vote on the motion to recommit will be followed by 5-minute
votes on:
Passage of H.R. 8774;
A motion to recommit H.R. 8752, if offered;
Passage of H.R. 8752;
A motion to recommit H.R. 8771, if offered; and
Passage of H.R. 8771.
This is a 5-minute vote.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 202,
nays 211, not voting 19, as follows:

[Roll No. 330]

YEAS--202

Adams
Aguilar
Allred
Amo
Auchincloss
Balint
Barragan
Beatty
Bera
Beyer
Bishop (GA)
Blumenauer
Blunt Rochester
Bonamici
Boyle (PA)
Brown
Brownley
Budzinski
Caraveo
Carbajal
Cardenas
Carson
Carter (LA)
Cartwright
Casar
Case
Casten
Castor (FL)
Castro (TX)
Cherfilus-McCormick
Chu
Clark (MA)
Clarke (NY)
Cleaver
Clyburn
Cohen
Connolly
Correa
Costa
Courtney
Craig
Crockett
Crow
Cuellar
Davids (KS)
Davis (IL)
Davis (NC)
Dean (PA)
DeGette
DeLauro
DelBene
Deluzio
DeSaulnier
Dingell
Doggett
Escobar
Eshoo
Espaillat
Fletcher
Foster
Foushee
Frankel, Lois
Frost
Gallego
Garamendi
Garcia (IL)
Garcia (TX)
Garcia, Robert
Golden (ME)
Goldman (NY)
Gomez
Gonzalez, Vicente
Gottheimer
Green, Al (TX)
Harder (CA)
Hayes
Himes
Horsford
Houlahan
Hoyer
Hoyle (OR)
Huffman
Ivey
Jackson (IL)
Jackson (NC)
Jacobs
Jayapal
Jeffries
Johnson (GA)
Kamlager-Dove
Kaptur
Keating
Kelly (IL)
Kennedy
Khanna
Kildee
Kilmer
Kim (NJ)
Krishnamoorthi
Landsman
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Lee (CA)
Lee (NV)
Lee (PA)
Leger Fernandez
Levin
Lieu
Lofgren
Lynch
Magaziner
Manning
Matsui
McBath
McClellan
McCollum
McGarvey
McGovern
Meeks
Menendez
Meng
Mfume
Moore (WI)
Morelle
Moskowitz
Moulton
Mrvan
Mullin
Napolitano
Neal
Neguse
Nickel
Norcross
Ocasio-Cortez
Omar
Pallone
Panetta
Pappas
Pascrell
Pelosi
Peltola
Perez
Peters
Pettersen
Pingree
Pocan
Pressley
Quigley
Ramirez
Raskin
Ross
Ruiz
Ruppersberger
Ryan
Salinas
Sanchez
Sarbanes
Scanlon
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schneider
Scholten
Schrier
Scott (VA)
Scott, David
Sewell
Sherman
Sherrill
Slotkin
Smith (WA)
Soto
Spanberger
Stansbury
Stanton
Stevens
Strickland
Suozzi
Swalwell
Sykes
Takano
Thanedar
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Titus
Tlaib
Tokuda
Tonko
Torres (CA)
Torres (NY)
Trahan
Trone
Underwood
Vargas
Vasquez
Veasey
Velazquez
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Wexton
Wild
Williams (GA)
Wilson (FL)

NAYS--211

Aderholt
Alford
Allen
Amodei
Armstrong
Arrington
Babin
Bacon
Baird
Balderson
Banks
Barr
Bean (FL)
Bentz
Bergman
Bice
Biggs
Bilirakis
Bishop (NC)
Boebert
Bost
Brecheen
Buchanan
Bucshon
Burchett
Burgess
Burlison
Calvert
Cammack
Carey
Carl
Carter (GA)
Carter (TX)
Chavez-DeRemer
Ciscomani
Cline
Cloud
Clyde
Cole
Collins
Comer
Crane
Crawford
Crenshaw
Curtis
D'Esposito
Davidson
De La Cruz
DesJarlais
Diaz-Balart
Donalds
Duarte
Duncan
Dunn (FL)
Edwards
Ellzey
Emmer
Estes
Ezell
Fallon
Feenstra
Ferguson
Finstad
Fischbach
Fitzgerald
Fitzpatrick
Fleischmann
Flood
Fong
Foxx
Franklin, Scott
Fry
Fulcher
Garbarino
Garcia, Mike
Gimenez
Gonzales, Tony
Gooden (TX)
Gosar
Granger
Graves (LA)
Graves (MO)
Greene (GA)
Griffith
Grothman
Guest
Guthrie
Hageman
Harris
Harshbarger
Hern
Higgins (LA)
Hill
Hinson
Houchin
Hudson
Huizenga
Hunt
Issa
Jackson (TX)
James
Johnson (LA)
Johnson (SD)
Jordan
Joyce (OH)
Joyce (PA)
Kean (NJ)
Kelly (MS)
Kelly (PA)
Kiggans (VA)
Kiley
Kim (CA)
Kustoff
LaLota
LaMalfa
Lamborn
Langworthy
Latta
LaTurner
Lawler
Lee (FL)
Lesko
Letlow
Loudermilk
Lucas
Luetkemeyer
Luna
Luttrell
Mace
Malliotakis
Maloy
Mann
Mast
McCaul
McClain
McClintock
McCormick
Meuser
Miller (IL)
Miller (OH)
Miller (WV)
Miller-Meeks
Mills
Molinaro
Moolenaar
Mooney
Moore (AL)
Moore (UT)
Moran
Nehls
Newhouse
Norman
Nunn (IA)
Obernolte
Ogles
Owens
Palmer
Pence
Perry
Pfluger
Posey
Reschenthaler
Rodgers (WA)
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rose
Rosendale
Rouzer
Roy
Rulli
Rutherford
Salazar
Scalise
Schweikert
Scott, Austin
Self
Sessions
Simpson
Smith (MO)
Smith (NE)
Smith (NJ)
Smucker
Spartz
Steel
Stefanik
Steil
Steube
Strong
Tenney
Thompson (PA)
Tiffany
Timmons
Turner
Valadao
Van Drew
Van Duyne
Van Orden
Wagner
Walberg
Waltz
Weber (TX)
Webster (FL)
Wenstrup
Westerman
Williams (NY)
Williams (TX)
Wilson (SC)
Wittman
Womack
Yakym
Zinke

NOT VOTING--19

Bowman
Bush
Evans
Gaetz
Good (VA)
Green (TN)
Grijalva
Jackson Lee
Kuster
LaHood
Massie
McHenry
Murphy
Nadler
Phillips
Porter
Sorensen
Stauber
Watson Coleman

Announcement by the Speaker Pro Tempore

The SPEAKER pro tempore (during the vote). There are 2 minutes
remaining.

{time} 1032

Mr. CARSON changed his vote from ``nay'' to ``yea.''
So the motion to recommit was rejected.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the passage of the bill.
Pursuant to clause 10 of rule XX, the yeas and nays are ordered.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. This is a 5-minute vote.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 217,
nays 198, not voting 17, as follows:

[Roll No. 331]

YEAS--217

[[Page H4423]]

Dunn (FL)
Edwards
Ellzey
Emmer
Estes
Ezell
Fallon
Feenstra
Ferguson
Finstad
Fischbach
Fitzgerald
Fitzpatrick
Fleischmann
Flood
Fong
Foxx
Franklin, Scott
Fry
Fulcher
Gaetz
Garbarino
Garcia, Mike
Gimenez
Golden (ME)
Gonzales, Tony
Gonzalez, Vicente
Good (VA)
Gooden (TX)
Gosar
Granger
Graves (LA)
Graves (MO)
Greene (GA)
Griffith
Grothman
Guest
Guthrie
Hageman
Harris
Harshbarger
Hern
Higgins (LA)
Hill
Hinson
Houchin
Hudson
Huizenga
Hunt
Issa
Jackson (TX)
James
Johnson (LA)
Johnson (SD)
Jordan
Joyce (OH)
Joyce (PA)
Kean (NJ)
Kelly (MS)
Kelly (PA)
Kiggans (VA)
Kiley
Kim (CA)
Kustoff
LaLota
LaMalfa
Lamborn
Langworthy
Latta
LaTurner
Lawler
Lee (FL)
Lesko
Letlow
Loudermilk
Lucas
Luetkemeyer
Luna
Luttrell
Mace
Malliotakis
Maloy
Mann
Mast
McCaul
McClain
McClintock
McCormick
Meuser
Miller (IL)
Miller (OH)
Miller (WV)
Miller-Meeks
Mills
Molinaro
Moolenaar
Mooney
Moore (AL)
Moore (UT)
Moran
Nehls
Newhouse
Norman
Nunn (IA)
Obernolte
Ogles
Owens
Palmer
Peltola
Pence
Perez
Perry
Pfluger
Posey
Reschenthaler
Rodgers (WA)
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rose
Rouzer
Roy
Rulli
Rutherford
Salazar
Scalise
Schweikert
Scott, Austin
Self
Sessions
Simpson
Smith (MO)
Smith (NE)
Smith (NJ)
Smucker
Spartz
Steel
Stefanik
Steil
Steube
Strong
Tenney
Thompson (PA)
Tiffany
Timmons
Turner
Valadao
Van Drew
Van Duyne
Van Orden
Wagner
Walberg
Waltz
Weber (TX)
Webster (FL)
Wenstrup
Westerman
Williams (NY)
Williams (TX)
Wilson (SC)
Wittman
Womack
Yakym
Zinke

NAYS--198

Adams
Aguilar
Allred
Amo
Auchincloss
Balint
Barragan
Beatty
Bera
Beyer
Bishop (GA)
Blumenauer
Blunt Rochester
Bonamici
Boyle (PA)
Brown
Brownley
Budzinski
Caraveo
Carbajal
Cardenas
Carson
Carter (LA)
Cartwright
Casar
Case
Casten
Castor (FL)
Castro (TX)
Cherfilus-McCormick
Chu
Clark (MA)
Clarke (NY)
Cleaver
Clyburn
Cohen
Connolly
Correa
Costa
Courtney
Craig
Crockett
Crow
Cuellar
Davids (KS)
Davis (IL)
Dean (PA)
DeGette
DeLauro
DelBene
Deluzio
DeSaulnier
Dingell
Doggett
Escobar
Eshoo
Espaillat
Fletcher
Foster
Foushee
Frankel, Lois
Frost
Gallego
Garamendi
Garcia (IL)
Garcia (TX)
Garcia, Robert
Goldman (NY)
Gomez
Gottheimer
Green, Al (TX)
Harder (CA)
Hayes
Himes
Horsford
Houlahan
Hoyer
Hoyle (OR)
Huffman
Ivey
Jackson (IL)
Jackson (NC)
Jacobs
Jayapal
Jeffries
Johnson (GA)
Kamlager-Dove
Kaptur
Keating
Kelly (IL)
Kennedy
Khanna
Kildee
Kilmer
Kim (NJ)
Krishnamoorthi
Landsman
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Lee (CA)
Lee (NV)
Lee (PA)
Leger Fernandez
Levin
Lieu
Lofgren
Lynch
Magaziner
Manning
Matsui
McBath
McClellan
McCollum
McGarvey
McGovern
Meeks
Menendez
Meng
Mfume
Moore (WI)
Morelle
Moskowitz
Moulton
Mrvan
Mullin
Napolitano
Neal
Neguse
Nickel
Norcross
Ocasio-Cortez
Omar
Pallone
Panetta
Pappas
Pascrell
Pelosi
Peters
Pettersen
Pingree
Pocan
Pressley
Quigley
Ramirez
Raskin
Rosendale
Ross
Ruiz
Ruppersberger
Ryan
Salinas
Sanchez
Sarbanes
Scanlon
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schneider
Scholten
Schrier
Scott (VA)
Scott, David
Sewell
Sherman
Sherrill
Slotkin
Smith (WA)
Soto
Spanberger
Stansbury
Stanton
Stevens
Strickland
Suozzi
Swalwell
Sykes
Takano
Thanedar
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Titus
Tlaib
Tokuda
Tonko
Torres (CA)
Torres (NY)
Trahan
Trone
Underwood
Vargas
Vasquez
Veasey
Velazquez
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Wexton
Wild
Williams (GA)
Wilson (FL)

NOT VOTING--17

Bowman
Bush
Evans
Green (TN)
Grijalva
Jackson Lee
Kuster
LaHood
Massie
McHenry
Murphy
Nadler
Phillips
Porter
Sorensen
Stauber
Watson Coleman

Announcement by the Speaker Pro Tempore

The SPEAKER pro tempore (during the vote). There are 2 minutes
remaining.

{time} 1038

So the bill was passed.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.

____________________