[Congressional Record Volume 168, Number 159 (Friday, September 30, 2022)]
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                             ECONOMICS 101

  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under the Speaker's announced policy of 
January 4, 2021, the gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Schweikert) is 
recognized for 60 minutes as the designee of the minority leader.
  Mr. SCHWEIKERT. Mr. Speaker, I'm going to do my best not to sound 
frustrated and defeated. I actually do believe there is hope. But 
somewhere here--and I'm going to show the numbers--we have got to 
figure out some way, particularly my brothers and sisters on the left 
but even some on my side, to understand what is going on in the math. 
The math will always win.
  Tonight, I am going to throw a lot of math, a lot of the facts. These 
facts functionally decide whether this country survives or not. These 
facts decide whether we are going to have prosperity or not. And the 
avoidance of the math around here, the avoidance of the actual math. 
The level of cruelty, the level of just viciousness that will make to 
the poor, the working middle class, to anyone in this country, because 
the actual economic data that has flowed through to today is pretty 
damn ugly.
  Let's start to deal with some reality on the math. And this board is 
already out of date.
  In the next 30 years, CBO--and this is from a couple months ago--
says, in today's dollars, 30 years from now, we will have $138 
trillion--and the reason I had to do this is because the number keeps 
changing, and this is already out of date--$138 trillion of borrowed 
  And this is one of the hard things, because we are terrified to tell 
our voters this, but it is the math. It is the truth. Every dime of 
this borrowed money, from today's $31 trillion of borrowed to $138 
trillion borrowed, is the shortfall on Medicare. It is the shortfall on 
Social Security. It is the demographics.
  And what is terrifying is this Medicare number, when healthcare right 
now has doubled the inflation rate, doubled the inflation rate of the 
rest of the country. I represent the highest inflation in the 
continental United States; the Scottsdale-Phoenix area. We are sitting 
around 13 percent. And in my marketplace, we are being told 20-plus 
percent is my medical inflation. This number explodes.
  How many times this last week have you had anyone come behind these 
microphones and say: I am terrified what I just did to people trying to 
head toward retirement. I am terrified what we have done to the next 
  This is reality. This is the math. And this doesn't really have all 
the spending.
  President Biden, unified control of the left, has been here, what, 
18-some months. Congratulations, he added $4.8 trillion to the deficit.
  Remember the campaign rhetoric? Oh, they're going to be responsible, 
they are going to balance things--$4.8 trillion to the deficit.
  Here is where the math gets terrifying, and I am just livid that no 
one is willing to walk behind these microphones and tell the voters the 
truth because we need to hand out cash, so they vote for us; so they 
cuddle with us and say, Oh, we like you. Thank you, Mr. Congressman, 
for funding this, funding that.
  This is going to make sense in a moment.
  The end of 2021, we functionally had zero percent interest when you 
did the adjustment for--here is our inflation and here is UST bills, 
when you do the WAM, the weighted average daily.
  September 22. We are at 3.1. We are now calculating. And this is real 
interest. So, yes, bonds and T-bills are up here, but when you adjust 
for inflation, we believe the futures are going to continue to go up.
  For the next few years, as far as we can see on the current futures 
market, interest rates are 2, 3, 4 points higher than the Congressional 
Budget Office's modeling.
  What does that actually mean?
  Let's just do the easiest one. If we are 2 points higher than what 
the CBO had projected just a few months ago, in just a decade you are 
well over 126 percent of debt-to-GDP. But it gets crazier.
  Remember, what I am saying here is with inflation, with expectations, 
and the speech I did last week where we showed you data after data 
after data points.
  First, the lie from earlier this year: Inflation is transitory. It 
was never transitory. Anyone that said that didn't show up at their 
economics class.
  Look at the structural inputs we saw last week. Inflation now is 
structural, meaning the Federal Reserve is going to either have to bust 
the labor markets because this place is incapable of doing what is 
necessary, which is incentivizing savings, and incentivizing, in a big-
time way, productivity.
  Because if you don't make more stuff--and I know it is supply side 
and supply side is a rightwing, except it is economics. It works. If we 
don't get more productive as a society--it is an economic term--what is 
it--oh, yeah, we are screwed.
  So do understand, under the current CBO protections, and this is from 
months and months ago before they plugged in the inflation data we are 
in right now, in 30 years, 50 percent of all tax receipts, we are just 
paying interest.
  Now, most of this is not Republican or Democrat, it is demographics. 
We got old as a society, but this is our future. Now you put in the 
crappy fiscal decisions and economic decisions this place has made over 
the last 18 months, and you start to see what the future actually looks 
  This is from the CBO numbers. This is CBO data from a year ago, that 
if we had just a single percentage point higher mean on U.S. sovereign 
debt interest rates, in 30 years, 70 percent of all tax receipts are 
consumed by just paying back the interest. Not paying down the 
principal, 70 percent just paying interest.
  So what happens if where we are at right now becomes long term? 
Because we are right now 2 points plus on that CBO model. If it were to 
last 30 years--and I don't believe it will--but if it did--you have got 
to understand this is from CBO last year--if we ran 2 percent higher on 
U.S. sovereign--so T bills, the 10 years, the 30 years, you know, 2 
percent higher, 100 percent of the tax receipts of this country go just 
to pay our interest.

  Doesn't this scare the crap out of anyone? Does anyone here own a 
calculator with a battery in it?
  Mr. Speaker, I have a 12-week little boy that just came to us. And, 
yes, my wife and I, we are going to be old parents, but he is 12 weeks. 
If this is our future where because we have borrowed so much money, 
because we have set off inflation, because we have blown up 
productivity--and I showed last week that productivity per work hour is 
actually crashing. It is falling. The incentives to participate in the 
labor markets are not working.
  So we say, Well, we have this great unemployment number, except if 
you look at the U6 data and those things, why are there so many 
millions of young males missing from the workforce? The incentives we 
should be engaging in to get older Americans to stay in the workforce, 
what can we do to incentivize that, because if we don't, this is our 
future. One hundred percent of all tax receipts being consumed just 
paying back the interest; not paying down the debt, not paying for 
government. It is just the United States have

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basically become functionally an insurance company with an army.
  At the rate we are going, we are not going to be able to pay our 
insurance benefits: Social Security, Medicare, VA, Indian Health 
Service. It just drives me to the edge just in anger; the trite, the 
  We are going to talk about anything that we think will motivate our 
voters or get them to get excited or maybe give us money, or this and 
that, but to tell them the truth on how much trouble we are in.
  I accept that maybe I am a heretic. Maybe the job of a Member of 
Congress is not to come behind this microphone and tell the public the 
truth. I accept these are big numbers; we are talking trillions.
  Think of this: The shortfall in Social Security over the next 65 
years--and I know it is a long time, but that is actually how you do 
the Social Security. I am the ranking Republican on Social Security. 
The shortfall in just Social Security over the next 65 years is $202 
  In, functionally, a decade it is out of money; and at that point, you 
take a 25 percent cut. We will double the number of our brothers and 
sisters who are seniors who will be in poverty.
  How much discussion do you see around here that anyone here cares 
about people? But we do brilliant virtue signaling. We virtue signal 
the hell out of this place, and then when it comes to anything 
requiring a calculator--and all of your phones have a calculator on 
it--we do, what?
  Mr. Speaker, I am going to show this because hopefully this will make 
sense. I am going to try to tie in that there are solutions. There are 
actually things we could be doing.
  With the amount of money the left has spent in the last 18 months, if 
that money had been actually directed to things that actually would 
have made a difference, hell, they might be heading toward the majority 
again--they are not--but we also would save the country, and there 
would be optimism. Instead, we do pandering. We spend our money on 
basically buying the next generation of votes.
  So, look, this is actually really a societal problem, and we need to 
have an honest discussion about it. And this is terrifying, because 
Members are terrified to come behind these microphones and say anything 
where the Twitter army is going to attack you.
  But the 2021 estimate, 37.3 million people, up from 26 million, will 
have diabetes. I'm going to show you a slide in a moment that we may 
have doubled in certain areas the number of our brothers and sisters 
who are obese during the COVID shutdowns.
  Why is this board important? Our estimates from a couple years ago 
was that diabetes is 33 percent of all healthcare spending. It is 31 
percent of all Medicare spending; diabetes and the associated.
  Mr. Speaker, I represent the population with the second highest 
diabetes in the United States. It is a Tribal community on the side of 
Scottsdale. You want to meet the misery? Come visit. I will introduce 
you to families who actually are doing okay financially, and grandma's 
feet have been cut off. So the solution in this place is: Well, we will 
build more diabetic clinics. We will find ways to help people maintain 
their misery.
  I know I am going to get crap for this: Body mass index approximately 
doubled during the shutdowns.
  We have been trying to dive into why the excess mortality numbers 
from this last year, and we are trying to do it intellectually honest, 
intellectually robust, saying: Here is our COVID deaths. Here is our 
fentanyl deaths.
  Mr. Speaker, come to Phoenix, Arizona, and see the number of people 
now living in alleys. Talk to my local police about the number of 
bodies they are picking up every week who are dying on fentanyl because 
fentanyl has become so incredibly cheap. We are now the distribution 
center because the border is wide open.
  But, hey, these are loving, caring Democrats who don't give a damn 
about the border.

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  But understand the misery.
  But this just hit us saying: Oh, God, what happens in society if we 
just doubled obesity in the country?
  We know what this means, and we also know that diabetes in the 
previous model was 33 percent of all healthcare spending. We know this 
health index: lots of folks gaining weight during the time that we were 
locked in because that was the brilliance of this government.
  How many people have we made sicker and more miserable?
  Maybe that is the reason those young people aren't in the workforce. 
Maybe that is the reason productivity isn't working. It is a unified 
theory: health, immigration, and technology; all these things come 
together to make this country healthy.
  The reality is we are in trouble. We are in just real trouble. The 
debt is exploded, now the interest on that debt is exploded, and the 
elements where we say: Well, we are going to cut--look, the Democrat 
mantra is: Well, rich people don't pay enough taxes.
  I have shown boards after boards after boards. You can take every 
dime they have, and you functionally don't cover but a fraction of the 
crushing debt that is coming.
  Republicans have their sin. We will say: It is waste and fraud.
  Well, it turns out that waste and fraud and foreign aid are just a 
fraction. They need to be fixed. They are all things that probably 
should be fixed. They are part of the formula.
  Think of the cash the left spent on some of their legislation on 
giving cash to the Big Pharma that make insulin instead of doing 
something that would have been much more brilliant. Not too many miles 
from D.C., here in Virginia, there is a co-op that is actually about to 
make I think it is about eight types of generic insulin, and they are 
going to make it less than the subsidized price.
  Why wouldn't you pass legislation saying: We are going to bring that 
online, and we are going to do the things to incentivize this type of 
working together.
  By the way, this is how you bring entries into the market because the 
additional competition is what lowers price. But, instead, the brain 
trust around here says: We hate Big Pharma. Hey, here is a bunch of 
cash. Here is billions of dollars.
  That was the Democrat solution. It was fascinating how many groups 
actually wanted the cash much more than they wanted the competition 
because this place is always about the money.
  This is something I have been trying to pitch here. Maybe it won't 
work. Maybe it is just too utopian for this place to get their heads 
around. But I think we now have a half a dozen Americans who have been 
cured of type 1 diabetes. I did a whole functionally 40 minutes here on 
the floor a couple of months ago walking through the process of the 
stem cell being tagged with CRISPR so the body doesn't see it as 
foreign; so you can do it in a biofoundry, so you can make lots of 
this; and then putting it into the body, the islet cells actually start 
to attach, and it produces insulin.
  Mr. Speaker, why wouldn't you put a fortune into bringing this and 
seeing if it works?
  The Operation Warp Speed, the Democrats can call it anything they 
want, because this is moral. This is actually loving and kind.
  Mr. Speaker, if you look at the previous slides, then you understand 
we have a debt avalanche, and now the interest on that debt avalanche 
is about to crush us.
  We need our brothers and sisters to be healthy and able to 
participate in the economy. There are some fascinating things we have 
been working on showing that, hey, income inequality, why is this 
population poor over here?
  We would always get from our brothers and sisters on the left: Well, 
it is racism. It is education.
  It turns out it is a hell of a lot more complicated. It turns out if 
we actually start to dig into the data, we actually start to see 
health--health--and the fact that crime and people break your bones and 
steal your stuff--but health was an incredibly large component of why 
some of these urban populations--my Tribal populations--weren't 
participating in the economy. It was diabetes, the commonality of 
diabetes in these populations.
  So why wouldn't this be everything?
  We are going to take on the farm bill and make it so we can help our 
brothers and sisters in type 2 get healthy. Yes, it will take time, it 
will be controversial, and it will be difficult. But

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if this is the modern plague, when you saw the numbers of the growth of 
diabetes, why wouldn't we throw everything we have at it?
  Because from a math standpoint, it is singularly the most important 
thing you and I could do for U.S. sovereign debt. Think of that, Mr. 
Speaker. It is crazy, but if 31 percent of all Medicare spending is 
diabetes--and that number is about to grow substantially because of 
what we have done the last couple years--and Medicare is 75 percent of 
all the future debt, ta-da, the math doesn't take a brain surgeon.
  So let's actually start to walk through more of the things that are 
actuality optimistic and hopeful, and maybe when Republicans are the 
majority here, we will actually have the competence to try to do hard 
and complicated things to actually make people's lives better.
  I just pulled this up as just a thought experiment except for the 
fact that the product actually exists today. It is functionally a home 
biopsy. You can get this and have it on your shelf at home. It actually 
will be functioning a laboratory where you can put some saliva on it, 
some other body fluids, and it calculates, it talks to the phone; it 
talks to the algorithm; it gives you a diagnosis; and it would be in 
your home. It would help crash parts of the healthcare.
  Now, this technology is substantially illegal if you allow the 
algorithm to write a script in this country. We also know that 
healthcare costs are the things that are about to crush us. You would 
think that this place would be contemplating: What can we do in the 
technology disruption?

  But, instead, the brain trust here somehow thinks: Well, the ACA, 
  No. Mr. Speaker, you have got to understand that was a financing 
bill. The Republican alternative was one, and Medicare for All, they 
are financing bills: Who gets to pay and who gets subsidized. In 
Medicare for All everybody is subsidized. Those are financing bills. 
They have nothing to do with what--with what--we pay.
  This is one of the ways you disrupt the cost of healthcare.
  But I believe this place is terrified because you just took, what, 
hospitals are the largest lobbyists here in Washington, D.C. They 
should love and embrace these types of technology disruption. We are 
just afraid to have that conversation with them.
  The other thing is actually one of my pieces of legislation. It is 
just a simple idea.
  What is inflation?
  Let's first go back to our high school economics class. Inflation is 
too many dollars chasing too few goods and services. Okay. We can make 
more stuff.
  Part of my argument is reform the Tax Code and reform the regulatory 
codes--things we did in the 2017 tax reform with expensing where we had 
that productivity spike--because investments and things that make the 
society more productive means you can pay people more.
  The other side is also too many dollars.
  How do I get my brothers and sisters to say: Don't take that cash 
that is sitting in your checking account and go buy another big screen 
  What if this place would give an incentive and say: Take the cash and 
go put it in your retirement account?
  Believe it or not, it accomplishes much of the same thing. We have 
gotten some nice write-ups on the piece of legislation Congressman 
Donalds from Florida and I are doing that says: Let's provide an 
incentive for people to take excess cash and instead of spending it in 
the marketplace continuing the inflationary cycle, put it in retirement 
  But, instead, Congress seems absolutely content on letting the 
Federal Reserve blow up the economy. You already see what is happening 
around the world. When the United States has inflation and we start to 
raise our interest rates and money comes screaming in from the world 
and the U.S. dollar spikes up and the other currencies in the world 
collapse, and yet they need to buy fuel and food in U.S. dollars, then 
understand the decisions Democrats here made 2 years ago--a little less 
than 2 years ago--to push out almost $2 trillion in excess spending 
that set the match on the inflation kindling, you just blew up much of 
the world.
  This time next year there will be countries around the world that 
can't make their debt payments.
  Mr. Speaker, do you think we will hear anyone on the left actually 
come behind the microphone and say: We screwed up, we didn't show up at 
our economics class, and we just blew up the world?
  Because they did it in my community. I have 13 percent inflation in 
the Phoenix-Scottsdale area.
  Mr. Speaker, if you work and you haven't had a pay raise, then you 
have lost a month and a half of your wages--a month and a half of your 
  That is the biggest modern tax hike.
  I tried to explain this last week: Who are the winners and losers in 
  Society and people who save money, that young couple who is trying to 
save to get their family going, and that retired couple. They are 
  Who is the biggest debtor in the world?
  This place. We have $31 trillion of borrowed money.
  And guess what, Mr. Speaker?
  We now get to pay back that $31 trillion--or at least the interest on 
it--with deflated dollars, with cheaper dollars because we lowered your 
economics, and we made it cheaper for us to do.
  That is one of the reasons why there is this sort of whisper here in 
Washington, particularly the Treasury-type folks, who say that 
inflation is horrible. But at least in the short term, Democrats are 
almost giddy that, hey, by the end of the year, the debt-to-GDP ratio 
in real dollars will actually close.
  It is not because they did anything to grow the economy. It is 
because the dollar value has crashed because of inflation. The value of 
the debt, because you are paying it back with deflated dollars, that 
debt to GDP in real dollar terms will close.
  Now, the punch line is a year or so from now when we have had to sell 
the new bonds at the higher interest rates and the higher interest 
rates and the higher interest rates, then it moves against us. That is 
like those slides I told you where we had long-term interest rates, 2 
percent over CBO model, it is 100 percent. One hundred percent of all 
tax receipts go to pay just interest. This is where we are heading.

  Shouldn't this be the number one conversation in this place, the 
survival of the country and the survival of my new little boy?
  But it doesn't give a damn because it is math and our voters--let's 
face it--our voters want the shiny object because it is our fault 
because we are terrified to have a conversation with our voters saying: 
If we don't do these things, then we can't save Medicare and we can't 
save Social Security.
  That becomes the attack ad. We do it to each other. I believe 
Democrats are much more duplicitous in it. But math is scary, and it 
doesn't need to be. There is hope.
  Mr. Speaker, I just bring this one up because this was in a recent 
article talking about some of the productivity effects, the GDP growth 
effects when we got the parts of the Tax Code right. We didn't get 
everything we should have.
  But, Mr. Speaker, I need you, if you want a real living example, to 
look at the fourth quarter of 2017. Because remember, the fourth 
quarter of 2017 got the benefit of expensing even though the tax reform 
didn't finish until the end of 2017. But we did that retrospective.
  Then look at 2018. Look at 2019. The shrinkage of income inequality. 
The poor got much less poor. The working middle class had a couple of 
their most prosperous years in modern history. African-American females 
had this amazing growth in wages and job opportunities.
  But it is a demonstration. I know it is heresy for the left to 
compliment tax reform. It wasn't tax cuts, it was tax reform, because 
the actual receipts, the revenues that came in, the number of times our 
friends on that side said: You are going to put us into depression.
  I am waiting for my apology because we actually took in more money. 
Corporate receipts went up. Thank God we had actually that robust of an 
economy and that robust of a tax system when the pandemic hit.
  Could you imagine if we didn't, Mr. Speaker, how miserable we would 
have been?

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  The last thing, this is not meant to be a non sequitur. It is meant 
to be a closing on the discussion of the misery.
  I am a border State. I know most of the Democrat votes aren't 
anywhere near the border States, so you don't give a damn about us, but 
I am dead serious.
  I am blessed. I have just an amazingly wonderful congressional 
district. It is where I grew up. It is my home. It is my obligation to 
try to defend them.
  Even neighborhoods that don't vote for me, come drive with me, and 
come see the misery that is living in the alleys behind these houses.
  Fentanyl has crashed in price in the Phoenix area. I have a Phoenix 
police sergeant who is my neighbor. He was telling me, a year or 2 ago, 
$120 to get high for the day. Today, it is like $12. Now, we are 
finding a new form of synthetic opioid crossing our border. It is 10 
times more potent than fentanyl.
  Maybe you don't give a damn about people in the Southwest or the 
misery of the little 14-year-old girl who just died down the way from 
me, taking one pill. But when this stuff gets left on a countertop 
somewhere at your favorite wine bar, and everyone in the room is dead, 
will the left take seriously the misery that their open border policies 
have brought to us?
  Look, my pitch is really simple. The economics are all screwed up. 
The Democrats set off inflation. That piled on the debt, piled on our 
demographics, piled on our healthcare. We are in real trouble as a 
  If we would embrace the disruptions of technology and the incentives 
for productivity, we can at least bend the curve. We are not going to 
pay down the debt, but we can bend it so that debt-to-GDP is 
survivable, but you have to get other policies right.
  This place is having no conversations that are actually serious, 
honest, and important, and I don't know how this became Republican 
versus Democrat. We are now just talking about the survival of our 
  Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.