[Congressional Record Volume 167, Number 129 (Thursday, July 22, 2021)]
[House]
[Pages H3817-H3823]
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LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM
(Mr. SCALISE asked and was given permission to address the House for
1 minute and to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. SCALISE. Mr. Speaker, I rise for the purpose of inquiring of the
majority leader the floor schedule for next week, and I welcome the
majority leader back to the colloquy. It is good to see him spry.
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Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentleman from Maryland (Mr. Hoyer), my
friend.
Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Louisiana (Mr.
Scalise), for yielding.
Mr. Speaker, on Monday, the House will meet at 12 p.m. for morning
hour and 2 p.m. for legislative business, with votes postponed until
10:30 p.m.
On Tuesday, the House will meet at 10 a.m. I want to make that clear.
That is an acceleration from 12 p.m. We have a lot of business to do
next week. We have a lot of appropriations bills, so we want to make
sure that we are not meeting late, late into the night.
So on Tuesday, the House will meet at 10 a.m. for morning hour and 12
p.m. for legislative business.
On Wednesday, the House is expected to meet at 11 a.m. for
legislative business.
On Thursday, the House will expect to meet at 10 a.m. for legislative
business.
On Friday, the House will meet, as usual, at 9 a.m. for legislative
business.
The House will consider several bills under suspension of the rules.
The complete list of suspensions will be announced by close of business
tomorrow.
In addition, the House will consider at least 7 of the 12
appropriations bills for fiscal year 2022.
Recognizing the importance of completing our work well in advance of
the deadline at the end of September, I would let the Members know
that, unfortunately--well, first of all, let me say, we have marked up
all 12 bills, and they have been reported out of committee.
The Senate has not reported out, nor considered a single
appropriation bill. And we have 60 days before the end of the fiscal
year, approximately, give or take.
The House will consider a seven-bill minibus, H.R. 4502. That bill
will include seven appropriations bills: the Labor, Health and Human
Services, Education, and Related Agencies bill; and Agriculture, Rural
Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies; Energy
and Water Development, and Related Agencies; Financial Services and
General Government; Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies;
Military Construction, Veterans Affairs, and Related Agencies;
Transportation, Housing and Urban Development, and Related Agencies
Appropriations Act.
There will be additional bills on the appropriations. There are,
obviously, after the seven, five additional appropriation bills that
will be available for consideration. Three of those bills, as I
understand it, have been noticed by the Committee on Rules for
amendments to be filed. So they will be ready to go next week, and I am
hopeful that we will be able to move some of those bills next week.
They will be the Legislative Branch appropriation bill; the Commerce,
Justice, Science, and Related Agencies appropriation bill; and the
Department of State, Foreign Operations, and Related Programs
appropriation bill. That will leave the Department of Defense bill and
the Department of Homeland Security bill.
Lastly, additional legislative items are possible. And that will be
our schedule for the week to come. I expect it to be long days, which
is why we are going in at 11 a.m. on one day and at 10 a.m. on two of
the days, which we usually go in at 12. I would hope that that would
preclude us from going very late at night, but I think everybody ought
to expect that we will be here into the evening.
Mr. SCALISE. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for that information
as we look toward this appropriations process coming to the floor next
week.
I would hope it doesn't take the same tone that it took in committee,
and that is a hyper-partisan approach, which in years past, we have
seen Republicans and Democrats come together to ultimately determine
how best to fund this United States Government. And any bill that is
going to get sent to the President's desk is going to ultimately be a
bipartisan bill.
Unfortunately, that is not the bill that is going to be coming to the
floor. There are a lot of very extreme radical elements that were put
in that bill, but there was also something very alarming, and that was
a break, a departure, from over 40 years of bipartisan agreement on
what is known as the Hyde amendment.
Henry Hyde, in the 1970s, was able to get agreement between
Republicans and Democrats to say on all the things we may disagree
with, let's at least agree that taxpayer funding should not be used for
abortions. And overwhelming majorities of Republicans and Democrats
have supported that going back to 1976.
This appropriations bill guts the Hyde amendment. And why this
Democrat majority decided to break from decades of bipartisan agreement
on Hyde is perplexing. But I would hope, among many other things, we
would be able to have that full debate on the House floor; that
amendments like restoring Hyde would be made in order, not a closed
process, not a very narrow process where the goal would be to push a
hyper-partisan bill out of the House that won't become law, which means
it would be a very futile exercise that we would be participating in
next week, but, in fact, to work in a bipartisan way on those things
that we can come to an agreement on about how to properly fund the
government.
I am not sure if that is being anticipated with the seven bills that
are coming in this bloated bus, but I would hope that the majority, as
the Rules Committee looks to determine which amendments would be made
in order, would go to an open process and let things like the Hyde
amendment be debated, and frankly, to be supported in the bipartisan
way that it has always enjoyed going back over 40 years.
Mr. Speaker, maybe the gentleman could shed light on that, and I
would yield to the gentleman.
Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for his comments. He is
certainly accurate that the Hyde amendment has been in our bills for a
very long period of time. What I think is not completely accurate is
that it has been a bipartisan support, has enjoyed bipartisan support,
and that there were Democrats who obviously supported the Hyde
amendment.
And I realize that this has made it controversial, having been left
out of the bill. I don't know what the Committee on Rules is going to
do; we will have to see what they do. But in any event, I want to tell
you that a large number on our side of the aisle believe that a
constitutionally protected healthcare matter for women ought not to be
determined by their financial ability.
So there is controversy with respect to Hyde. There is also
controversy with respect to Federal employees as well, that I know
well, because I chaired that subcommittee. We give to Federal employees
the healthcare benefit, but then we say they can't use it for some
things. Actually, that money is their money; it is not our money. It is
given in compensation for their services.
But in any event, so there are controversies, I would tell the
gentleman, and I am not sure exactly what the Committee on Rules is
going to do and, therefore, don't want to speak for it.
Mr. SCALISE. Mr. Speaker, hopefully, like I said, we get the
opportunity to have that open debate process so that we can bring
amendments like restoring Hyde to this floor.
Mr. Speaker, I would also like to ask about something that is going
to be coming up next week, and that is this January 6 Commission that
the Speaker created is expected to meet next week.
Yesterday, we saw an alarming departure from Congressional tradition,
and that is Speaker Pelosi unilaterally made a decision to remove
minority members from that committee. You go through the history of
Congress, and prior to this year, never has the Speaker denied the
minority the ability to choose who they are going to put on committees.
And not only did it happen yesterday with multiple members, a ranking
member of a standing committee was removed, an officer in the United
States Navy was removed from that committee, without explanation.
That, first of all, undermines all credibility that this committee
will have. It is clear that now it is an attempt by the Speaker to just
completely politicize that committee. Why the majority chose to abuse
power in that way and deny minority rights in that way is perplexing,
but it doesn't bode well for the institution, and it surely doesn't
bode well for the impartiality and the credibility of this committee.
I don't know if the majority is looking at reconsidering that
decision, but
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obviously, it is unprecedented. And if the gentleman wants to explain
that, I will be happy to yield.
Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, I think the gentleman can explain it. I
think, frankly, your party is hoist on its own petard. We brought to
this floor, with Mr. Katko and Mr. Thompson agreeing on the process,
offering to the House an equally divided five-and-five commission; the
five Republicans being totally in the ambit of the minority leader. We
brought it to the floor; the subpoena power being equally divided
between the parties and having to cooperate in accomplishing the
issuance of the subpoena. And very frankly, although there was some
discussion of it, there was no doubt that the staff would have been
resolved. The question of being equal staff on the Republican and
Democratic side would have been resolved in the Senate.
I see the gentleman shaking his head. I can tell him, I know it would
have been resolved; period. And the Republican Party objected to that
commission, equally divided, five and five, with the minority leader
strenuously lobbying against it being passed in the United States
Senate. It was not passed in the United States Senate.
Press asked me, If it is defeated in the Senate, what are you going
to do? I said, We are going to move forward, of course. And that is
what we are doing. We are moving forward.
Now, the makeup of that committee, three of the persons who were
appointed by the--excuse me--were recommended by the minority leader
were accepted by the Speaker. And I am not going to spend a long time
going into the quotes of the two or their premise, but all I can say is
when asked the question, Ms. Cheney, who I know you folks have kicked
out of leadership because she tells the truth.
Mr. SCALISE. That was not the reason that Ms. Cheney was removed as
chair.
Mr. HOYER. Well, that is certainly one of the statements, however.
Mr. SCALISE. It had nothing to do with the statements that were made.
Mr. HOYER. That is one opinion.
Mr. SCALISE. An opinion we don't share because it is not accurate.
Mr. HOYER. Well, I clearly know we don't share that view, but it was
referenced that, well she may have told the truth but she ought to stop
telling the truth.
And that was one of the references that were made as you replaced her
as your third in line because she--from our perspective--and I think
from a large perspective of the American people--told the truth, and
she continues to tell the truth.
And she was asked the question: What do you think about this
nonpartisan investigation? She said, I am absolutely confident that we
will have a nonpartisan investigation that will look at the facts; that
it will go wherever the facts may lead. There are three members from
the minority leader proposed that the Speaker did not object to. She
has objected to two members. And the rhetoric around this from minority
leader and from those two members has been disgraceful. Thus, this must
be an investigation that is focused on facts. And the idea that any of
this has become politicized is really unworthy of the office that we
all hold and unworthy of our Republic.
So I don't blame you, and I probably would have taken the same
reaction as you have taken. But very frankly, from the Speaker's
perspective, and from others, this needs to be a commission that does
in fact commit itself to going where the facts lead and determining the
who, what, where, when, and why.
I have some very strong feelings as to why the insurrection, or as
some say, the tourist visit--on your side of the aisle, Mr. Whip--the
tourist visit that resulted in the death of a number of people,
terrorizing Members of this House who thought their lives were in
danger because people were trying to break into the House Chamber.
The rationalization of that activity has been rampant by many on your
side of the aisle. We have some strong feelings on this, and we are
going to get to the facts. And the American people will make the
ultimate judgment, obviously. And we want to see that commission,
again, hoist on your own petard, the overwhelming majority of you voted
against a commission. Five Republicans appointed by the minority
leader--appointed by, not recommended by--and five Democrats; subpoena
power shared, and notwithstanding the fact that some of you,
apparently, don't agree. I guarantee you, it would have been equal
staffing. That would have been resolved. That was not a really big
issue.
It was a make-up issue to vote ``no'' in the United States Senate
because, in our view--so you understand--Donald Trump didn't want the
commission.
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So, Donald Trump was saluted, and we didn't get a commission, which
was a commission that almost exactly to the jot and tittle, as Mr.
Katko said, what the minority leader asked for.
So, you don't like the result now. I get it. But I believe, as Ms.
Cheney said, this is going to be a factfinding select committee.
Witnesses will say what they are going to say.
By the way, one of the people that was rejected by the Speaker may
well be, and maybe both, witnesses before the select committee. I don't
know that. Nobody has told me that. But that may be the case.
So, we are going to proceed. I know there is disagreement. That is
not surprising. But you looked the opportunity that you asked for in
the eye and rejected it, so here we are.
Mr. SCALISE. Mr. Speaker, that wasn't the opportunity that we asked
for, and I think the majority leader knows that the minority leader put
a number of issues on the table that he wanted included in that review,
and those were rejected. They were rejected by the Speaker, and they
were rejected by the majority.
Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. SCALISE. The majority leader will have an opportunity, but there
were a number of things you said that I think need to be cleaned up
because they are just not accurate.
If you look at the Members that were kicked off from the minority
side yesterday--still no explanation given, by the way--that includes a
ranking member of a committee and an officer in the United States Navy
who was removed yesterday by Speaker Pelosi with no reason given in an
unprecedented way.
Maybe Speaker Pelosi and maybe this majority don't want to see all
the facts come out because those two Members who were removed yesterday
were raising very serious questions that ought to be answered, whatever
those answers are. Whatever those facts are, they were publicly raising
questions.
Maybe because they raised those questions that might be uncomfortable
for the majority, they were removed from the committee with no
explanation given. That had never happened before in the history of
this Congress.
Again, if you want the facts, don't sit there and say that you want
the facts if you are going to remove people who are trying to get
facts, who are raising serious questions that should be answered. They
raised them publicly, and they were going to raise them in the
committee. Maybe because they were going to raise those tough
questions, they were removed by the Speaker, Members of the minority
who were removed by the Speaker.
I don't know if that is the new precedent that the majority leader
wants to see in the future. But I will tell you, since the gentleman
likes quoting Liz Cheney, I will read this quote from Liz Cheney:
``Speaker Pelosi and the Democrat majority have no business determining
which Republicans sit on committees.'' That is from Liz Cheney, if the
gentleman wants to quote.
Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, is that a quote about Mrs. Greene?
Mr. SCALISE. Mr. Speaker, that is a quote about Mrs. Greene, but it
is a general quote about whoever it is. You could go down your list.
By the way, there were Members of the majority who are on that
committee who voted on January 6 to reject electors. Maybe not this
year's January 6, but as the gentleman knows, every Republican
President this century has had Democrats on this House floor object to
electors being seated, including multiple members of the January 6
committee on the majority side. They weren't removed. In fact, they
were appointed by the Speaker.
Yet, two of our Members, who raised very serious questions about
facts that should be answered, wherever those answers lead, were
removed because
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maybe the majority doesn't want all the facts to come out. Maybe they
only want a certain narrative to come out. That is not an
investigation. That is a kangaroo court, if that is the approach that
is going to be taken.
But the action taken yesterday by the Speaker, the unprecedented
action, undermines the credibility of that commission, and it is a
shame for the institution because the Members we appointed were going
there to find the facts, to help participate in finding the facts.
Clearly, that is not the interest now of this committee. That was
exposed yesterday in the Speaker's unprecedented action.
It is not something that this institution, whether it is Republicans
running it or Democrats--and as the gentleman knows, that pendulum
swings both ways. But never before this year had a majority removed
Members that minority leaders submitted for committees. It is just not
what has happened in this institution. But, now, it seems to be the
norm because maybe some people that are asking tough questions are
asking too tough of questions that this majority doesn't want to be
answered, kind of why this majority won't have a hearing on the origins
of COVID.
In fact, it was Mr. Jordan, along with myself and others, who has
raised serious questions that have been backed up by many medical
experts around this country that COVID-19 very likely started in the
Wuhan lab and was leaked out. Medical experts from every walk of life
have looked at the genetic makeup of this COVID-19 virus and said it
couldn't have been transferred from bats to animals to humans. In fact,
it was likely modified genetically in the lab in Wuhan.
Yet, there is not a single hearing that has been held by this
majority on whether it was gain-of-function research, possibly funded
with taxpayer money. All of those questions should be raised, but maybe
the majority doesn't want those facts to come out.
We should want the facts to come out wherever they lead. So don't
pound the desk and say you want the facts when you remove people who
are asking questions to get at the facts. It shouldn't be a one-sided
question and argument.
Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentleman.
Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, the legislation we passed said the Speaker
would appoint all the members. These Members were not kicked off; they
never got on.
Liz Cheney was asked whether that was the appropriate thing to do,
and her response was--you had her quote: ``I agree with what the
Speaker has done.''
Now, the reason she agreed--yes, they have raised questions, and on
your side, you wanted to raise questions. You wanted to look at
everything but January 6. Maybe January 6 as well, but you wanted to
look at this incident, that incident, the other incident, the incident
over here. Are they relevant incidents? Sure, they are; but not to
January 6.
Mr. SCALISE. Mr. Speaker, but why not look at all of them?
Mr. HOYER. Clearly, when you were in charge, you didn't look at some
of the incidents that happened while you were in charge that were
similar in nature. Very frankly, I think those incidents ought to be
looked at, but not by this commission because they were incidents that
did not involve insurrection; did not involve stopping the work of the
Congress of the United States; did not terrorize Members of this House.
Now, I know that some of you have had pictures taken of you in this
House. You looked pretty terrified to me. You thought there was
something serious happening. This stuff that this was a tourist visit
is absurd.
The issue of dissembling is not new. President Trump put that in an
art form. If he didn't like what was going on here, he created
something over here with a tweet or a comment or an action that he
took. That is the shell game.
The issue is: What happened on January 6? What was the insurrection
about? Why were people coming into the Capitol saying: Let's hang the
Vice President of the United States--not of our party.
People shake their heads. I am not sure why they are shaking their
heads. They saw it on television. They see it on the tapes over and
over and over. They see people being convicted. I happen to think the
sentences are too short. It was treason. It was treason based upon a
lie.
We need to get to the bottom of it. What the Speaker has done is make
sure that we are going to get to the bottom of it, notwithstanding the
fact, and I will repeat again, all of you had the opportunity to vote
five--five--shared subpoena, and the leader was empowered to appoint
anybody he would want.
The legislation that passed this House said the Speaker would
appoint--the Speaker. Did she consult with the minority leader? She
did. Did she disagree with two that he appointed? She did, and she did
not appoint them. That was in her power. And I agreed with her, and Liz
Cheney agreed with her.
Why? Because that would have been dissembling, not looking for facts.
Mr. Jordan has said over and over again that he believes the election
was stolen. Court after court after court after court said no proof. No
proof.
So, we are where we are, and we are going to proceed. We are going to
proceed, and if the Speaker decides to retain the three and name two
others, so be it.
We are going to proceed. We are going to proceed, and we are going to
get the facts, and we are going to get those facts known to the
American people. It is going to be widely covered. There are going to
be a lot of witnesses. We are going to find out the who. Maybe that is
the problem: the who, the what, the where, and the why.
For the first time in history, Americans, Trump signs waving, stopped
the business of the Congress of the United States--an insurrection and,
from my view, a treasonous act. So, we are going to proceed.
Mr. SCALISE. Mr. Speaker, if the facts were what the majority wants,
then the majority wouldn't be afraid of certain Members asking tough
questions that maybe the majority doesn't want.
Since the gentleman brought up Mr. Jordan, I will tell you a question
that Mr. Jordan has been raising publicly. One of the questions Mr.
Jordan has been raising is: Why weren't the Capitol Police better
equipped when there was intelligence prior, weeks prior to January 6,
that there may be large crowds, that there may be threats? Why weren't
the Capitol Police more equipped? Were National Guard offered to the
Capitol that were rejected? And at what level, if that is the case,
were they rejected?
Maybe he was starting to ask those questions. Maybe he should have
just sat back and not raised those questions until after the committee
started, but he started raising those questions.
By the way, they are important questions to be answered, but he won't
be able to ask those questions about why the Capitol Police weren't
better equipped because Speaker Pelosi yanked him off the committee
when he was selected by the minority leader.
You can talk about the power of the Speaker and brag that that is her
power, but just because you have the might doesn't make it right. What
she did was an abuse. To say, ``I am just going to choose who on the
Republican side I am going to allow, but, boy, if some other Members
are going to ask tough questions, I have the power to take them off,''
that is not what power is used for.
This House, this democracy, we should want the facts. If some Members
are going to ask tough questions, you should want everybody to be
asking tough questions. If the facts lead there, you go there. If the
facts don't lead there, you go somewhere else and ask more tough
questions.
If some Members are going to ask tough questions that the majority
doesn't want to be asked, that undermines the credibility of that
commission to remove them from asking those questions.
Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentleman.
Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, does the gentleman believe that the three
Members that the Speaker accepted and was willing to appoint would not
have asked those questions?
Mr. SCALISE. Mr. Speaker, they haven't said publicly whether they
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would or not. Mr. Jordan sure did. Again, maybe he was punished for
raising tough questions in advance of the hearing instead of waiting.
But in the end, those were questions. Sheriff Nehls, who was also one
of our selections, was right there with these brave Capitol Police
officers, holding down the House of Representatives so that the Chamber
wasn't breached. Sheriff Nehls was right there.
But, again, if the integrity of that commission is now undermined
because Speaker Pelosi chose to remove people who were going to ask
tougher questions, then, ultimately, it proves that this is not a
commission set on finding the facts. It is a commission set on
establishing a narrative regardless of the facts. That is a disgrace,
for this institution to go down that road.
There is still time to reconsider. Mr. Speaker, I would urge the
majority to reconsider how they use or abuse the power that is vested
upon them.
Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentleman.
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Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding.
Your side had an opportunity to support the Capitol Police. Your side
had an opportunity to support law enforcement. Your side had the
opportunity to increase the capability of the Capitol Police to respond
to insurrectionist, violent, and criminal agents.
Your side had that opportunity, and what did it do, to a person?
It voted ``no,'' and we passed it. We passed support of the Capitol
Police. We passed support to strengthen our defenses. We passed
legislation to try to make the Capitol more secure and our Capitol
Police safer. We passed that legislation with not a single one of your
votes. It went to the Senate, and it sits. You read what that is doing
to the morale of the Capitol Police along with some of your comments
about the Capitol Police.
So you had that opportunity.
I will say to the Speaker, Republicans had that opportunity. Just as
they rejected the five and five, they rejected support of the Capitol
Police.
Seventeen of them voted against giving them a Gold Medal.
Why?
Because the insurrection was mentioned in the resolution, and, of
course, there was no insurrection. It was a tourist visit, as they
ambled politely through the Halls of the Congress saying how
appreciative they were of the efforts being made by their Democratic
Representatives.
If you saw it that way, if you believe that, it is impossible for me
to understand why.
So I tell the whip, Mr. Speaker, that the Republican Party has had
two opportunities to have an even, fair commission. They rejected them,
apparently, according to what the whip says, because we didn't want to
look at Seattle, we didn't want to look at this city or that city or
the other city or this, that, and the other.
By the way, President Biden made it very clear that those who
committed criminal activities were not demonstrators, they were
criminals. Biden said that, and I agree with him.
What they didn't want to look at is who recruited the crowd that came
in here, who riled that crowd up, and who deployed them to the Capitol
of the United States for the specific objective of stopping the steal,
and what he meant, of course, is our acting.
His Vice President, whom he talked to on numerous occasions about
stopping the election, concluded that that was not legal, that was not
within his authority, and so he acted consistent with the law. That
really annoyed Mr. Trump.
So here we are. We should have had a bipartisan commission. We should
have moved that forward, and, yes, we should support the Capitol Police
by adopting the supplemental.
By the way, the Senate supplemental is more in terms of dollars than
the House supplemental. So it is not a question of we spent too much
money to do this to make the Capitol safe, to make the Capitol Police
armed, to give them the opportunity to get the intelligence that they
need to proceed.
But what a distraction that the Capitol Police weren't prepared.
The question is not: Were they prepared?
The question is: Why did American citizens try to commit insurrection
and treason in the Capitol of the United States and stopped our work?
Not for very long. We came back, we did our work, and we got it done
to the benefit of our country, our democracy, and our image around the
world. Our democracy was resilient.
Nobody was angrier, I will tell you--and I think Mr. Scalise, you
were there--Mr. Speaker, nobody was angrier about what was happening
that night than Mitch McConnell, the leader of the Senate, who said he
believed subsequent to his voting against impeachment, but
notwithstanding that, he believed the President bore responsibility, as
the minority leader said, not all responsibility, but bore
responsibility.
So we are going to look at this. You can talk all you want. Your
leader has now decided he is going to withdraw the three and not
participate. We regret that. But it is not going to stop us. It is not
going to stop our getting at the truth. It is not going to stop our
having the American people know the who, what, where, when, and why of
the first time since 1812 when a foreign power invaded our Capitol that
the Capitol of the United States was invaded by people who were seeking
to undermine the democratic processes under our Constitution.
Mr. SCALISE. Mr. Speaker, it is unfortunate that as that commission
starts, it will not include other Members, Republican Members, who
wanted to ask some of those tough questions in terms of supporting the
police.
I don't think the gentleman has seen any stronger support for police
than on this side of the aisle. I have been maybe more vocal than
anyone about support for the United States Capitol Police because I
wouldn't be here alive today without the bravery and heroism of the
Capitol Police, and I think we all stand with them.
Ultimately, when you look at the supplemental that came through the
House in May, there were a number of Members on the Democrat majority
side who voted against that supplemental who have been vocal about
defunding the police.
And, in fact, we have been trying to bring up H. Res. 352, which
expresses support for police in opposition to this crazy, radical idea
of defunding the police, where in many of these cities that have
actually defunded the police, they have seen rapid increases in crime.
Even more--and I know I have held roundtables with sheriffs from the
New Orleans area, as many of my colleagues have met with law
enforcement--they will tell you the biggest challenge today, in
addition to the growing crime wave, they are seeing is a demoralization
around the country for police because they see these efforts to defund
the police and they see elected oficials speaking out publicly against
police. It is not coming from the Republican side. I think the
gentleman knows where it is coming from.
Why won't this bill be brought to the floor to just express support
for police?
The fact is that the majority on the Democrat side will not bring a
resolution to express support for police, H. Res. 352, by Ms.
Malliotakis and others, at a time when we are seeing around the country
not only a demoralization but an increase in resignations. People are
leaving the great work of law enforcement because they see in those
communities that have defunded the police a lack of support. Most
sheriffs will tell you they are having trouble recruiting new people
right now because of the attacks on police all around the country that
we saw from the summer where cops where murdered, shot, beaten. Yet a
resolution to express support to let them know that we have their back
still won't be brought to the floor by this majority.
I hope the gentleman would look at bringing H. Res. 352 to the floor
so that we can actually express to all police that we support them and
that we do have their back.
Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentleman.
Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding.
You had an opportunity to support the police and you voted with those
who wanted to defund the police. All of you had an opportunity, just a
few weeks ago while we had a bill on the floor, to support, to fund the
Capitol Police to make them safer, more effective, and better able to
enforce the law,
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and you all, to a person, voted ``no.'' You had the opportunity, and
you voted with those who you say on our aisle didn't want to do that.
But it passed.
Why did it pass?
Because the overwhelming, overwhelming, overwhelming majority of
Democrats--it is the only reason it passed--voted to support the
police, our Capitol Police. I will tell you that is also true of our
Members in terms of supporting law enforcement at the Federal, State,
and local levels.
Are there some who say some things?
Yes. There are some people who say some things on your side--I have
quoted a couple of them--that I am sure you don't support. But having
said that, the proof is in the eating of the pudding. We had a bill on
the floor that supported the police. You voted against it, every one of
you.
Mr. Speaker, you can talk all you want about supporting them, but,
very frankly, the bills you are going to be voting on next week support
the police. They are not defunding.
Unlike the Trump budgets. If you look at the Trump budgets, who cut
law enforcement funding?
Trump budgets.
Check me on that, and then come to the floor and say: Hoyer is not
telling the truth. Check me.
You had an opportunity.
Mr. Speaker, the minority had an opportunity to support the police.
They all voted ``no.'' The Senate is doing the same. It is a shame
because it is undermining the morale of the Capitol Police. You have
seen that reported in the newspapers. This is not me saying it. They
don't understand why.
Mr. Scalise is absolutely right. The Capitol Police have kept him, in
particular, and others who were attacked by a crazed, apparently left-
wing, but crazed bad person, he may be mentally defective, but he did a
very bad act, and he was targeting Republicans. We all stood up when
Mr. Scalise was in the hospital and thanked the Capitol Police for
protecting him and others on that site. That was a terrible, terrible,
venal criminal act. The guy was probably a Democrat. I don't know. We
have called him out for being that. That is what we ought to all do.
On January 6, some very bad criminal people acted in this Congress
and in this Capitol against our democracy and against our Constitution,
and we want to study it. We want to get the facts so it doesn't happen
again and so we know who is fomenting this insurrectionist psychology
and who rationalizes it on this floor now.
Mr. SCALISE. Mr. Speaker, I will just point out that President Biden
himself a year ago said he supports efforts to divert money away from
police, which, by the way, is the same thing as defunding police. If
you are diverting money away from police, then you are defunding
police. But, again, there is a resolution that has been sitting out
there for a while now expressing support. I hoped we would bring that
to the floor and express that support.
There are also a number of other issues dealing with inflation. We
are seeing a dramatic increase in inflation across this country.
Everything someone buys when going to a grocery store, we are paying
more for things like eggs and milk. If you try to go on a summer
vacation right now, you are paying over 40 percent more for gasoline.
You are seeing it across the board, and that dramatic increase in
inflation is a tax. It is a tax on hardworking families.
This chart shows for the gentleman so many of those things. Used cars
are up 45 percent, if you can even find a car to buy because there is
such a shortage when the government is paying people not to work.
The borrowing, by the way, and spending of trillions of dollars--
which are some of the items that are going to be coming to the floor
next week and beyond, trillions more, much of it deficit spending--is
part of the reason we are seeing inflation: gas 45 percent up, home
prices 15 percent up, milk 5 percent, laundry machines 29 percent, if
you can get one. You might have to wait 6 months to get a washer and
dryer.
All of this is a tax on hardworking, middle-class families.
What we should be doing is bringing legislation to the floor to
confront these problems, not to keep spending trillions and trillions
more in deficit spending and higher taxes that ultimately would lead to
more evaporation of middle-class jobs which is what the majority is
bringing, but I would hope that the gentleman would look at working
with Republicans on legislation to start addressing some of these
problems that are affecting household families all across the country.
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Republican, Democrat, Independent, doesn't matter, they are seeing
this problem, and they would like to see this Congress confront it, not
make it worse with more deficit spending, with more multitrillion-
dollar spending bills and higher taxes that will ship more jobs
overseas, shutting down energy production in America.
While the President is signing or authorizing agreements with Russia
to use pipelines to ship their energy to other countries, he is
shutting down pipelines in America so that we can use more of our
natural resources, again, leading to higher prices across the board,
things that are adversely affecting families.
I hope we can bring legislation to confront these challenges to the
floor, and I yield to the gentleman.
Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding.
We have brought them to the floor. We are going to continue to bring
them to the floor, and we hope Republicans support them.
We created 3 million new jobs; more jobs in our first 5 months than
any administration in history--the gentleman forgot to mention that
figure--double the monthly rates of the 5 months prior to that under
the Trump administration.
The average number of new unemployment insurance claims has been cut
in half. Last week, that number was about 400,000. The same week last
year, it was 1.5 million under the Trump administration. Small business
optimism has returned to its 2019 average. The economy grew at 6.4
percent in the first quarter. Independent projections from CBO, the
IMF, the Federal Reserve, the World Bank, OECD, and many others all
forecast America this year reaching the highest level of growth in
nearly four decades.
Furthermore, as the gentleman knows, the Director of the Federal
Reserve has opined that he thinks, yes, there is a surge in inflation.
Yes, we are concerned about it. The Federal Reserve is watching it. We
are watching it. We want to keep inflation in check.
The gentleman referenced that we are paying people not to work. Let
me remind the gentleman, we had four bills which did similar things
which were passed in an overwhelming bipartisan fashion last year,
overwhelming bipartisan fashion, and none of them would have become law
without the signature of President Donald Trump.
Now what happened? Donald Trump left, and bipartisanship left with
him; not because he was so bipartisan, but he thought that what we were
doing was good for the people, and therefore, I think he thought, good
politics. I think that is accurate.
The fact is that this economy is now doing exactly what we want it to
do. It is growing. Now it surged. There is no doubt about that, and
that surge has resulted in inflation hiking at a higher rate than we
would like, including the products that the whip mentioned, Mr.
Speaker.
We need to contain inflation because it does rob those particularly
on fixed incomes. But the multitrillions that were spent last year, one
of which, the CARES Act spent--was almost a unanimous vote in this
House--$2 trillion. So we did that because we believed that the
magnitude of the challenge confronting us by COVID-19, both to the
health of our people and the health of our economy, demanded such a
robust response.
One of our Members who had been vaccinated--some Members hadn't been
vaccinated--has come down with it. Now, hopefully, the vaccinations
that he has will moderate any adverse impact of this delta virus. But I
would say to the gentleman, it is a little bit like the commission,
that we want to focus on the bad news, not focus on the good news. The
gentleman wants to focus on other news, not the central news of the
insurrection, and I understand that strategy.
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But there is a lot of good news happening in America. There is some
bad news, too. Part of it is because people haven't gotten vaccinated.
The gentleman's State has that problem; Mississippi has that problem;
South Carolina and some other States have that problem; my State has
that problem. Not to the extent of some other States, but all 50 States
are seeing a surge. So giving up and getting off the field at this
point in time is not appropriate.
I think that we are going to find that the President's program that
he suggests, as he says, and I agree, will have a generational impact
for decades to come in making sure that our economy continues to grow;
that our people are educated; that we expand the middle class; lift
people out of poverty, as we did with children who are now 50 percent
of them are going to be lifted out of poverty. That is good news for
America. It is good news for all of us. Those kids are going to be
better educated and make more productive contributions to our society.
So I hope a number of Members will support pieces of legislation that
will carry that vision of the President into fruition, and we will work
toward that end.
Mr. SCALISE. Mr. Speaker, as we look at those bills coming to the
floor next week, frankly, they would make those problems worse. I know
when we talk about the inflation side--we talk about inflation, because
it is the thing we hear the most when we talk to our constituents back
home, because regardless of the statistics, the data is little solace
if you see your dollar going for less further, less far. In fact, you
see your dollar not going as far because whatever you are making, you
are spending even more money than you were spending before and waiting
longer to get things because of these policies.
In fact, the spending itself is part of the problem that is leading
to inflation. People get that. And so they look at these multitrillion-
dollar spending bills and they are starting to ask the questions: What
is really in those bills? If it is not things to help my family,
because I am paying more with all of this new spending, what is in it?
We just found out today there are millions of dollars in the bill
that is coming to the floor next week specifically just for one entity,
Planned Parenthood of Mar Monte, San Jose, California; Planned
Parenthood, the largest provider of abortions in the country. So not
only is Hyde being discarded, the mutually agreed upon, bipartisan, and
not just Henry Hyde with a few other people. Henry Hyde passed this in
the 1970s under a Democrat majority. Democrats and Republicans said
taxpayer funding shouldn't be used to provide abortions, and it had
always been sacrosanct in spending bills that this Congress passed,
Republican and Democrat, since that time until now.
So not only are they gutting Hyde in the bill, but they are putting
millions of dollars into Planned Parenthood by name. This is what
drives people nuts when they see that kind of spending and a disconnect
because they are paying more money for regular household goods. And
instead of us confronting that on the floor, they see this kind of
spending that is generational, because it is the next generation that
will have to pay for it. Because as much as it seems this majority
wants to raise taxes to spend more money, even all the taxes that would
run more jobs out of this country don't cover all of this kind of
radical spending.
I would hope we go a different direction. We surely will be opposing
that kind of radical spending and it surely won't be helping those
families who just want answers, who just want to see relief from the
problems that they are facing.
I yield to the gentleman.
Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding. It was
not radical spending in 2020, because Trump signed the bills. Trump
left, and it became radical spending. That is situational ethics, Mr.
Speaker. I will leave it at that.
Mr. SCALISE. Mr. Speaker, the final point I would like to bring up to
the leader, we are seeing something that is actually very encouraging
in Cuba; that is, the people of Cuba taking to the streets to demand
freedom; something that has been decades in the making. I would hope
that we see all government leaders, Republican, Democrat, executive
branch, legislative branch, all expressing our support for the Cuban
people who seek freedom, because I think one of the most heartfelt
signs that I know I saw, and so many of my colleagues saw just a week
ago, were not only people taking to the streets to call for freedom,
they were carrying the American flag in Cuba.
We see this all around the world. It is one of the things that for
all of our differences brings us together, and that is that here in the
United States Congress, we are not only working to promote freedom in
this country and to preserve it for future generations, but this
freedom that we work to preserve inspires people all around the world.
Whether it is Cuba, or in Iran which we saw years ago, or any other
country, when people seek freedom, there is really only one flag that
they wave, and that is the United States flag.
Our colleague, Mario Diaz-Balart, whose family fled Cuba, like so
many of our colleagues, some first generation. Carlos Gimenez, former
mayor of Miami-Dade, personally fled Cuba seeking freedom--and talking
about the American Dream--he is a first generation who fled a socialist
nation who is now a sitting, voting Member of the United States
Congress, who now wants to express support for the Cuban people.
So there is a resolution, H. Res. 527, that expresses our solidarity
standing with the people in Cuba who are seeking freedom. I would just
ask the gentleman if he would look at bringing that bill to the floor.
The people in Cuba are trying to get that freedom, and they are being
heavily oppressed. Many may even be being murdered right now as they
have shut down the internet. They shut out the media, because there is
no freedom of the press.
We are hearing stories that are very alarming. If we can express our
support that we are standing with those people in Cuba who do seek
freedom as well, I think it would be a strong signal. I ask the
gentleman if we could bring that to the floor.
Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for his comments. As he
knows, the President of the United States has strongly expressed
support of those who are seeking freedom and liberty in Cuba. He said
that shortly after the demonstrations occurred. He has maintained that
position. I share that opinion with him, and we are discussing what
action we might be taking here in this House.
Mr. SCALISE. Mr. Speaker, I appreciate that. Hopefully, we can work
together to get that brought to the floor and express that support in
unison and that would send a strong message.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
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