Congressional Record, Volume 166 Issue 30 (Thursday, February 13, 2020)

[Congressional Record Volume 166, Number 30 (Thursday, February 13, 2020)]
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[Pages H1145-H1150]
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IMPORTANT ISSUES OF THE DAY

The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under the Speaker's announced policy of
January 3, 2019, the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Gohmert) is recognized
for 60 minutes as the designee of the minority leader.
Mr. GOHMERT. Madam Speaker, it is an honor to be able to stand in
this hallowed Hall and address some things that have occurred that are
worthy of attention.
Of course, there was applause in the gallery today on the passage of
trying to restart the ERA. It is an amendment to the Constitution, and
it was started back in the seventies. The amendment to the Constitution
had a deadline as part of the amendment. The amendment did not get the
required 38 states. The time lapsed. There was, as I recall, an attempt
to extend the time, but some States that had been in favor of the ERA
backed off.

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So it is very clear to anyone who pays attention to the Constitution
that, when an amendment to the Constitution by its own wording has a
time deadline and that deadline is passed, then that amendment has not
been ratified, is not part of the Constitution, and any efforts to
change the amendment itself, including the deadline for ratification,
would require beginning again.
There is no more iconic liberal judge on the Supreme Court, not in
history, than the former head, as I recall, of the American Civil
Liberties Union. She was there back when the American Civil Liberties
Union cared deeply about civil liberties and even took on some clients
and some causes of people that most of us thought were not worthy of a
lot of attention. But they were so committed to civil liberties back in
those days, they were more concerned about civil liberties than they
were the client. That was in the old days.
Now, if it is not a liberal, then they are not concerned about civil
liberties and abuses, since the Obama administration was the
administration that so far appears to be the most abusive of the FISA
courts, committing fraud upon the FISA courts.
But in fairness to the administration, it appears the FISA court
judges did not have sufficient integrity or pride in their position
that they were offended by having fraud committed upon them, because,
apparently, the disdain for Donald Trump, then President Trump and his
administration was such that it was okay. They were okay to be
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the issue of the FISA courts into focus as that issue will be taken up,
as I understand it, as will issues over parts of the PATRIOT Act and
other provisions that give the Federal Government tremendous latitude
to spy on American citizens.
So it is an interesting time, though, where you never know where
judges are going to come down. If somebody was appointed by a liberal
judge, it is amazing; they appear to stay liberal, with disdain for
conservatism and the strict language of the Constitution, wanting it to
be a liberal, breathing, living document.
On the other hand, Chief Justice Roberts has pointed out he doesn't
believe there should be Obama judges or Trump judges or Bush judges
because you can't characterize them that way.
To an extent, he is right about that, because there are some
Justices, particularly on the Supreme Court, who have been appointed by
conservative Presidents who were liberals in conservative clothing, and
they got on the Court and became some of the biggest flaming liberals
we have ever had.
So you can't tell that someone is conservative if they are appointed
by a conservative President, but you sure can tell if somebody is
appointed by a liberal President. They have shown that they will stay
liberal and not change. So it has been interesting to see that kind of
conversion.
It appears pretty clear that some of these Justices, including Chief
Justice Roberts, got into the position and began to care deeply about
what the media and others thought about things they were doing.
So, for example, with ObamaCare, he was, apparently, from the
reports, concerned that he might go down in history as being too
political of a Chief Justice if he struck down ObamaCare. So he took
something that was clearly unconstitutional, in effect, rewrote it, and
had a very hypocritical opinion.
At page 14, I believe it was, he said, clearly, this is not a tax,
because if it were a tax, Congress would have called it a tax, and they
made clear it was not; and it is only a penalty, a fine, if you don't
conform your conduct to the requirements of the legislation. Therefore,
it is not a tax.
Since it is not a tax, then the anti-injunction law that prevents a
plaintiff from filing suit until a tax is not only assessed but paid
and keeps the court from having jurisdiction to hear it until the tax
is assessed and paid, that doesn't apply, so the court can take this
matter up. And now that we take it up, 40 pages later, he said it is
constitutional, in effect, because it is a tax.
So he had to go through all kinds of mental gymnastics to what, in
his mind, would prevent him from being classified as a political Chief
Justice; but, as a result, he has become one the most political Chief
Justices we have ever had--unfortunately for him and the country.
So who knows. Maybe there will be people on the Supreme Court who
will decide to rewrite the Constitution as he, in effect, rewrote the
ObamaCare statute. But if you are actually going to follow the
Constitution the way it is written and you are not going to rewrite the
Constitution at the Supreme Court level, then the truth is, when an
amendment fails by its own language and is not ratified, then anybody
with any sense would understand you have got to start over.
Though I have plenty of disagreements with Justice Ginsberg over some
issues, she has tried to be a person of integrity. Talking about the
ERA, she says:

I would like to see a new beginning. I'd like it to start
over. There is too much controversy about latecomers--
Virginia--long after the deadline passed. Plus, a number of
States have withdrawn their ratification. So if you count a
latecomer on the plus side, how can you disregard the States
that said, ``We have changed our minds''?

So it is interesting. Yes, this legislation passed.
Jim Sensenbrenner from Wisconsin appropriately brought up the point
that this is actually amending the Constitution; it is amending the
constitutional amendment. So, to be appropriate, it is going to require
a two-thirds vote in the House, a two-thirds vote in the Senate, and
then 38 States, I believe it is, in order to have it ratified.
That was overruled to reinforce the fact that what we did today is
really not constitutional. If we had tried to ratify it as a new
amendment, like Justice Ginsberg was talking about, a new
constitutional amendment, then, actually, you would, as Justice
Ginsberg said, have to be starting the process all over again, and that
does require a two-thirds vote here and in the Senate.

So what we did today made people that support it feel good, but it is
not going anywhere; and even if it were, hypothetically, it just simply
can't pass constitutional muster at the Supreme Court. A majority of
the Court appears to believe that the Constitution means what it says.
We had one vote today. It was on the ERA. So we didn't do anything
terribly effective today as the House of Representatives.
Also, I noted before I came over for the vote that, apparently, the
chairman of the Judiciary Committee, it was reported--I don't know if
other members of the majority signed the letter, but there was a letter
to Attorney General Barr, and it expressed what sounded like the
distress of the committee over Attorney General Barr's action in
reining in prosecutors who have simply gotten out of hand.
Attorney General Barr has the distinct advantage of having a bigger
picture than these four very politically motivated prosecutors who were
pushing so hard for virtually the maximum amount of time for Roger
Stone to serve in prison.
Anyway, if that letter was going to be truly accurate, it needed to
say that this majority that has been trying to throw President Trump
out of office, that has been using taxpayer funds for a number of years
now to try to defeat President Trump in the 2020 election, which voted
for impeachment knowing that President Trump was not going to be
removed from office--so it seems the logical conclusion is, again, they
were using taxpayer funds to campaign against President Trump, hoping
they could besmirch him sufficiently, slander his name sufficiently,
that it would help them defeat him in November.
Whereas, the minority of the committee did not agree with the letter
because it appears clear to all of the minority I have talked to that
Attorney General Barr is trying to do something and incorporate
something called fairness in our legal system, because he has seen you
had people in the previous administration who strong-armed salespeople
into selling guns to people they knew should not have them and that
they would end up in the hands of, most likely, Mexican drug cartels.
And that is what the administration wanted to do. They were assuring
they would be able to follow the guns and intercede, but that is not
what happened.
Then we even saw emails that, after this was all exposed, there was
an idea that, gee, maybe we can still use the fact that these guns went
into criminal hands, even killed one of our own United States agents, a
brave soul, Brian Terry, they were hopeful they could still use that to
get antigun legislation passed simply based on their criminal activity
in trying to get these guns into the hands of criminals who shouldn't
have them.
So nobody was held accountable for that. Nobody was held accountable
for the guns that were forced into the hands of criminals, ultimately,
one of which killed Brian Terry. Nobody was held accountable for any of
that.
Nobody was held accountable for destroying evidence after it was
subpoenaed, even with a hammer, even with applications like BleachBit,
destroying subpoenaed evidence. Nobody was held accountable for any of
that.
So across the Nation, it appears maybe a small majority, but a
majority, understand and believe that there are two forms of justice in
America: one for those high-ranking Democratic officials who are never
held accountable at all, and one for Republicans whose lives are
attempted to be destroyed and, in some cases, are destroyed.

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In some cases, they did nothing wrong. In other cases, they agreed to
plead to something just because the bully Federal prosecutors have
threatened to go after their family and continue to harass them.
I saw a former Member of Congress from Pennsylvania who had been
blasting the FBI back during my first term,

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2005-2006, and he was blasting them because he said--and I had not
heard of it before, at the time--but a program called Able Danger had
been able to identify a majority of the 9/11 hijackers. The FBI had
that information. They did nothing with it.
I didn't know if Curt Weldon, the Member of Congress from
Pennsylvania, was accurate in what he was saying, but hearing him make
these speeches over and over about how the FBI should have acted. They
could have prevented thousands of lives from being taken, all of those
people from having to jump to their deaths because they didn't want to
be burned at the top of the World Trade Center. All of that could have
been avoided if the FBI had stepped in and used the information they
had to stop 9/11.
I didn't know if that was true or not, but I was thinking, you know,
Mueller and the FBI have to respond to Congressman Weldon in some way.
They have to. This is really serious stuff. I thought they would make a
statement and that they would come back with evidence to refute what he
was saying, but they never did that.
What Mueller's FBI did, though--it had to be with his approval, going
after a Member of Congress. It was believed that they got a warrant
because they raided his daughter's law office. They alerted the media
for the early morning raids so there was plenty of media there and
plenty of media at his congressional office. People were apparently
warned in advance by the FBI because nobody else knew.
They showed up with preprinted signs condemning Curt Weldon, caught
red-handed, all of this stuff. It turned out, there was nothing ever
done. He told me that, months later, he was contacted by the FBI and
told: You can come get all of this material we seized in the raid.
They did the raid 2 weeks before the election, as I recall, about 2
weeks before the election. So the FBI, under Mueller, was able to
singlehandedly defeat Curt Weldon. It helped the Democrat opponent to
defeat Curt Weldon in the narrow loss that he had.
So the FBI didn't respond with evidence. They just helped manipulate
the election system so Curt Weldon would lose. He did, and he said that
they told him to come pick up all of this stuff. They never did present
it to a grand jury anyway. That was kind of shocking.
So, clearly, Mueller and his FBI were motivated by shutting him up so
he couldn't make speeches on the House floor anymore, and that is why
the raid was conducted. But in his last most recent visit, Curt was
telling me that--by the way, before I wrote about Curt Weldon, I had
not seen him nor talked with him since 2006 when he left. I put that in
the booklet I wrote titled ``Robert Mueller: Unmasked.'' I wrote about
what happened to Curt.
At this most recent visit this year, he told me that, as he
understands, it turns out the FBI never even got a warrant. They just
raided the office without a warrant, like any good dictator would have,
the brownshirts. Law enforcement does, in places: We don't need a
stinking warrant. We will just go harass and destroy.
That is really shocking if there was not even a warrant. But Mueller
was irritated, apparently, with Ted Stevens, so the FBI framed Ted
Stevens. It turned out, after he was convicted right before his
election--he lost narrowly as a U.S. Senator--an FBI agent filed an
affidavit and established how they had created a case against Ted
Stevens that didn't exist.
Actually, Ted Stevens had overpaid for improvements to his home. It
wasn't an illegal gift. He had overpaid, at one point telling the
contractor: Look, I know I am overpaying, but I have people watching. I
have to do everything by the book, so just cash the check--that kind of
thing.
Anyway, Mueller and his FBI helped defeat Ted Stevens by convicting
him right before his election. But then that conviction was thrown out
due to the prosecutorial misconduct and, I would say, crimes committed
by at least one FBI agent, if not more, and also by prosecutors.
They should have gone to prison for what they did, but I can't help
but think that between what the FBI did to Curt Weldon, what they did
to Ted Stevens, what they have done to other people with whom they
disagree, that it had become a very dangerous place where, if you were
in the right political persuasion or took the right positions on the
right issues, then you could commit crimes, and the FBI would leave you
alone.
If you were of the wrong political positions, on the wrong issues,
they would come after you even if they had to frame you or set you up,
as they did Ted Stevens and Curt Weldon, destroying their political
careers.
So we are at a very dangerous time in this country's history. It used
to be that the FBI had the reputation that it was the most trustworthy,
effective law enforcement agency body in the world. But that has
changed.
Unfortunately, we have an FBI Director--an article said, at one time,
back in the Bush administration, he had told James Comey, who has lied,
obviously committed crimes--and we can debate about how high or low of
a level. But he told Comey: Look, if you and Mueller are going to make
a move, I want to be with you guys. I want to go where you are going,
when you are going.
Well, that guy who thought so highly of Mueller and Comey was put in
a place he never should have been, and that is FBI Director at a time
that needed cleaning up.
So I am hopeful that in the days, weeks, or months ahead, we will get
a new FBI Director who will be serious about punishing wrongdoing in
the FBI, which I believe will help them get back their reputation.
The more Christopher Wray appears to do more covering up than he does
making accountable, he really needs to go sooner rather than later.
They are not going to get their reputation back simply by ignoring
things.

Of course, the FISA court pointed out in an order, after going for
years without having any pride or integrity in enforcing their
jurisdiction and being offended by fraud upon the court, it finally
came out and said: Okay, this one guy, Clinesmith, had changed the
wording, basically going from saying he did work for the U.S.
Government or the CIA to saying he did not.
So, clearly, 180 degrees opposite of what the truth was, knowing it
was false, he submitted it to the court. But that had been clear for
months, if not years, and the courts did nothing.
It is what keeps compelling me to think maybe we just need to get rid
of the FISA court system and come up with a new way, because I am not
sure that the court with the judges who have been appointed to be FISA
judges, that we can save that system, that Americans can feel
comfortable that their privacy and their civil rights are not being
violated by an overzealous group, especially when you look at the
thousands and thousands of FISA orders. In 2018, out of mass
applications for warrants from the FISA court, I think there was only
one they turned down.
Some say: Well, maybe if we have an amicus, a friend of the court who
will stand up for the party against whom a warrant is sought, maybe
that would help provide enough protection for American civil liberties.
But then we saw in December, I believe it was, FISA court, feeling
the heat of all of those who have come to distrust FISA courts,
appointed an amicus. It turned out the judge appointed the very lawyer
who for years had been trashing Devin Nunes and others, who it turns
out were 100 percent right in the things they said in their report.
So it appeared clear that the FISA court was not serious about making
fixes or changes or protecting civil liberties, but also it had gone
into the Christopher Wray mode of covering up, hoping people wouldn't
notice that so much illegality and impropriety had been going on.
We are going to be taking up these issues, the controversial section
215 from the PATRIOT Act and other things. Hopefully, we will take up
the FISA court.
I am hopeful that we will have bipartisan action because I know from
my time on the Judiciary Committee, there have been Democrats--
previously, Chairman Nadler had been a staunch proponent of protecting
civil liberties, but that appears to be more, nowadays, only protecting
civil liberties if you are a Democrat, but not so much if you are part
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Hopefully, we can get past some of that and do some good and actually
do the job of protecting civil liberties.
I have talked to Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren over the years, including
more recently, because she, in the past, has been quite zealous for
civil liberties. I understand she has a bill. Hopefully, that will be
helpful in dealing with some of these issues.
But I am still concerned that the abuses may have grown so profound
that we may not be able to fix the FISA court system. We may need to do
as some have said--I think Rand Paul has talked about just getting rid
of it. But we will see where we go.
That same kind of duality justice or dual justice has raised its ugly
head in the U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of Columbia. Jessie
Liu was the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, and she had
some people, it turns out, who were extremely partisan.
In fact, in a case involving Imran Awan, an IT technician here,
involved with working with computers for dozens of Democrats on Capitol
Hill--since 2004, he had worked, like I say, for dozens of Democratic
Representatives. And it is one of the things up here on the Hill, if a
Member of Congress tells you, ``Oh, this is my computer person. He is
great. She is great,'' then others will say, ``oh, I need somebody, so
I will hire them.''
Normally, somebody who does that, since you don't need them full
time, they work part time. Under the rules, they are allowed to work
for multiple offices as long as their income does not exceed the
maximum amount allowed--I think it was around $170,000, something like
that. You could work for multiple offices and accumulate up to that
maximum. You can have multiple part-time employees. Apparently, that is
what Imran Awan did, and he had a brother.
If you are going to do that kind of work, you have to file financial
information, financial statement information. It turns out, he didn't
disclose about selling cars or some of the assets or businesses he had,
and that is a Federal felony.

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He also had filed under the requirements here if you buy something,
and I think it is $500 or more, then you have to have the serial
number, you have to keep track of it, and you have to be able to
document where that item is at all times if it costs more than $500.
When I came into office in 2005, there was some couch that was on my
inventory. Nobody had seen the couch in many years, but I was told you
can't take it off your inventory because it is part of your office.
Well, if it had cost less than $500 then that would not have been an
issue. I have no idea where that couch was or is. It wasn't around when
I got here.
But Imran Awan, apparently to get around the requirement of keeping
serial numbers and keeping track of things that he purchased allegedly
on behalf of Congress Members for whom he worked, he would list iPads
that cost $799 as costing $499 and then say that an insurance policy
for it cost $300, and that way it got around the requirement of keeping
information on where those specific items were.
It turns out from, what I have read, it appears he and his brother
owed six figures to somebody foreign, I believe. And so instead of
paying the person back, they put this guy, who was not a computer
technician--just had various Members, oh, apparently he told them, this
guy is going to help with your computer system, so we need you to put
him on part-time for your office. So he had the Federal taxpayers
paying their debt to this guy.
It turns out he had two wives, and one was saying he had a tremendous
amount of money. He is from Pakistan, and when he goes back, he is
treated like a king by the secret police there, I believe it was ISI.
He is constantly sending all kinds of computer equipment back to
Pakistan since he was a Pakistan national.
Anyway, he had some ties with some very questionable people. It
sounds like maybe the FISA court should have been issuing warrants to
look at some of his stuff.
He was arrested in July of 2017 over his alleged involvement in
double charging House Democrats for House IT equipment, House computer-
type equipment, and privately exposing private information online. A
probe of him found more than tens of thousands of dollars in computer
technical equipment had been stolen.
He was indicted by a Federal District Court in August of 2017 for
``conspiracy to commit bank fraud, bank fraud, making false statements
on a loan or credit application, and engaging in unlawful monetary
transactions.''
As I recall, he had, I believe it was a cousin who worked at
McDonald's. He got him listed on the payroll for different House
Members. I am sure they didn't know that he wasn't working. So he
helped out the family by bringing in extra income for family members.
Each one of those events would have been a Federal felony.
Evidence indicates that Imran Awan and his team members were copying
data from the computers of House Members to the House Democratic Caucus
server and then even to private Dropbox accounts--totally inappropriate
and absolute wrongdoing.
He and his associates were even tossed off the House computer system
because they provided false information to Capitol Police that being a
fake copy of the Democratic Caucus' server. But incredibly none of that
was used by Jessie Liu's attorneys against him. Instead, the U.S.
Attorney's office for the District of Columbia opted to let him plead
to a charge of just making a false statement on a loan application,
disregarding the many, many felonies that could have been charged and
pursued to just find out: Why are you such a hero back in Pakistan?
What equipment are you sending back there?
Where are you getting it from?
How come you committed a felony by not listing your car dealership?
Because as our intel people can tell you, Madam Speaker, one of the
ways that money is raised for terrorist activity is through bogus car
dealerships where cars are stolen and then shipped. We don't know what
the situation was with Imran Awan's alleged car dealership because he
didn't have a dealer lot anywhere.
It is handy, though, no matter who you are, if you can have taxpayers
pay back your loans by just listing them on the payroll of people whom
you lied to about who is doing the work.
The problem, though, if Jessie Liu and these Democrat attorneys in
the D.C. U.S. Attorneys' Office had pursued Imran for anything other
than making a false statement on his loan, then there would have been a
lot of embarrassment for Democratic Members of Congress because they
had some guy like that who was cheating taxpayers, cheating the
government, and committing crimes working for them. In fairness, it is
hard to believe they would have known the kinds of things he was doing
and getting away with. Anyway, the Federal judge sentenced him.
He filed saying he was broke, and he had no money. One of his wives
said she was threatened by the FBI to keep her mouth shut, but she had
indicated that he had all kinds of money. He had gold, and he had all
kinds of money that he had been able to save while working for all
these different Members of Congress. But he said he was broke. He filed
something saying he was broke, and he couldn't pay anything. But then
it came down to, in order to get probation he had to pay back six
figures to the government. Somehow, he magically came up--I can't
remember if it was 100 or $200,000--he came up with it. He paid it,
even though he alleged he was flat broke.
So when we hear about four Federal prosecutors who worked for U.S.
Attorney of D.C. Jessie Liu being all upset over the Department of
Justice wanting fairness for Roger Stone and not political vengeance,
four of them quit. In analyzing who it is and what they were doing and
why they quit, I think it is important to see who they are. There have
been some good articles written about these people just in the last
week.
Jonathan Kravis was appointed by former President Obama to be
associate White House Counsel where he served in 2009 and 2010. He
worked for Williams & Connolly, a lobbying firm for which Kravis had
worked. It has a long history of its employees donating large sums of
money to Democratic candidates, organizations, and causes.

He worked with Adam Jed to prosecute Paul Manafort. They went after

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him with a vengeance for working for the Ukrainian Government. Manafort
was cleared of all charges except two counts of conspiracy to defraud
the U.S., for which Manafort is serving a 5-year prison sentence.
Kravis and his wife are connected with Codepink that most people
around here know is a far left, anti-war organization.
Then Adam Jed, himself, apparently did work in 2003 or was a fellow
at Humanity in Action group, a far-left-wing organization blatantly
against political diversity.
He defended the Affordable Care Act contraceptive mandate in the case
Little Sisters of the Poor v. Sebelius. That is where the Federal
Government was going after these nuns who took a vow of poverty but
also a vow to help people, and they believed it was against their
religion to help pay for abortions. Mr. Jed had no problem in pursuing
these poor nuns. That is his choice, but it does give an indication of
where he stood, and it is certainly not anywhere close to the beliefs
on the pro-life positions of Donald Trump.
Adam Jed also provided oral arguments to strike down the Defense of
Marriage Act in the Defense of Marriage Act v. Windsor.
He contributed $1,000 to Josh Kaul's candidacy for Wisconsin State
Attorney General. Of course, Kaul was a lawyer for Perkins Coie which
funneled money from the Hillary Clinton campaign to Christopher Steele
who was the British spy who also apparently utilized other foreigners
to try to affect the U.S. election in 2016. So, obviously, Adam Jed
would have been supporting Kaul who worked for Perkins Coie.
I know we don't hear a whole lot about it from the other side of the
aisle, but the Hillary Clinton campaign and the DNC actually paid
foreigners to try to affect our 2016 election.
I constantly hear about how outrageous it was that the now-debunked
allegations that the Trump campaign conspired with Russia to affect our
election, they don't want to talk about what is slam-dunk proved that
the DNC and the Clinton campaign absolutely did pay foreigners to try
to affect our election. One foreigner from Italy was involved and a
foreigner from Australia.
I know people like to say that there were no Ukrainians involved.
That is totally debunked. The mere fact that Russia has constantly
tried to affect our elections--so has China and so have other
countries--does not mutually exclude the fact that there were
Ukrainians who tried to affect our 2016 election. Exhibit A to me,
Madam Speaker, would be you had the ambassador from Ukraine to the U.S.
write an op-ed trying to prevent Donald Trump from being elected
President.
That is foreign interference within an election. So, anyway, I don't
know where they are getting this stuff, oh, that is Russian propaganda.
The only Russian propaganda that has been the most effective is
propaganda from Russia that wants to divide America, and they have done
a marvelous job at dividing America instead of bringing us together.
One of the other attorneys who resigned all upset about the treatment
of--well, Attorney General Barr wanting them to pull their fangs back
in and not try to be so vengeful simply because Roger Stone was a
friend of the President. There is no indication the President had hired
him to do anything, but they sure went after him because of a
connection.
Michael Marando prosecuted the Imran Awan case. He is the guy who let
him get away with all of this other activity without proper
investigation.
In fact, there was an inspector general here. She ended up being, I
think, president of some international technology organization. She was
amazing. She had all kinds of evidence to prove felony cases against
Imran Awan, but representatives from the U.S. Attorney's Office, I
don't know if it was Michael Marando himself, the FBI, working at their
behest, ended up threatening her: Don't you bring your notebook with
all that evidence.
Then they turned around and later reportedly said: Oh, we interviewed
her, she didn't have anything.
Yes, when you ordered her not to bring it to show you the cases
against Imran Awan.

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But that is Michael Marando. He laid him off with a wrist slap. I
don't see how you can find any other basis other than Marando's
political motivation. But he didn't pursue any of these other charges,
and the question still exists.
As I understand, Imran Awan has filed a lawsuit, and it appears his
intention is to try to get back on the gravy train here where he was on
Capitol Hill, to get people to sign up to use him. I think there are
enough people who got burned that it would probably be hard for him to
do.
But a lawsuit, of course, when I heard that he has a lawsuit, that
means discovery is in order. I am hopeful discovery will bring out all
the lies and the crimes that it appears that he has committed. But no
thanks to Michael Marando. He certainly didn't do anything that would
have hurt Democrats on Capitol Hill but went out of his way to want to
destroy Roger Stone.
Aaron Zelensky started his career as a special assistant to Koh, who
was the State Department legal adviser in the Obama administration, but
he has also clerked for what I felt was one of the most liberal judges
ever, Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens.
He played a key role in obtaining a guilty plea from a guy who was an
adviser at one time, Papadopoulos. This poor guy, he didn't have money.
When the FBI and the D.C. U.S. Attorney's Office came after him,
Mueller's people, he didn't have money to fight.
He was being overwhelmed. They intimidated him enough into his
agreeing to plead guilty to a minor charge.
But Zelensky was handpicked by Mueller when he was selecting people
who hated Trump. Zelensky was handpicked to be an investigator in that
probe. Before joining the Mueller team, Zelensky worked for Deputy
Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.
Anyway, these people certainly had a lot of political baggage. They
were clearly on a vendetta. They weren't pursuing justice. They were
pursuing political vendettas, trying to get at President Trump.
There are tens of millions of dollars that were spent investigating
what we now know was the Russia hoax. There was no collusion or
conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia, despite what people
are trying to allude to now. It wasn't. The evidence wasn't there.
Mueller was disappointed. Weissmann was disappointed. All of these
left-wingers were disappointed that, despite all the intimidation, all
the threats, they couldn't find somebody who could actually implicate
any kind of collusion or conspiracy between the Trump campaign and
Russia.
But on Roger Stone's sentencing, when he was convicted, one of the
charges was witness tampering. It sure sounds like he was kidding
around by saying: Hey, I may have to come over and kill your dog.
I mean, who says that if they are not kidding? That is not all that
effective of a threat. But when you have a judge who can't stand the
Trump administration, and you have a juror who gets on--I would really
like to know what kind of questions the jury was asked during voir
dire. If Roger Stone's attorneys did not ask the jury panel their
feelings about Donald Trump, then it sure sounds like that would have
been malpractice. Roger should have a great case against his own
lawyers, plus a great case on appeal for their impropriety as his
attorneys.
But I find it hard to believe they wouldn't ask something about that
because there is clearly some type of Trump derangement system. Some
very smart, well-balanced people get so angry and frustrated over
President Donald Trump that they don't think as straight as they
normally would.
But to have the foreperson of the jury, the head juror who controls
the discussions, shut people down, encourage other people to speak--the
head foreperson hates Donald Trump.
Anyway, it is amazing the efforts that the Department of Justice, at
least the U.S. Attorney's Office, had gone to, to become a tool for
injustice. They wanted to max this guy out, the poor guy. Unbelievable.
I have sent people to prison for life. I have sent people to prison
for 10 years, 9 years. I have had to look people in the eye and order
them to be taken to the Texas Department of Criminal Justice and put to
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type of vengeance or political persuasion affect you.
I know in east Texas, we have assistant U.S. attorneys who vote
Democrat. But when it comes to enforcing the law, they enforce the law.
They don't care what party you are. And it is so tragic, right here in
our Nation's Capital, our own Justice Department, in our own D.C. U.S.
Attorney's Office, you have people who are not nearly as just and fair
as you find all over the country in most U.S. Attorney's Offices.
Another issue of the local D.C. U.S. Attorney's Office was a guy
named James Wolfe. He was indicted by a Federal grand jury on three
counts of violating title 18, U.S. Code, Section 1001. At the time he
made the alleged false statements to the FBI, James Wolfe was director
of security for the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, and that
was a position he had held for about 29 years.
As the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence director of security,
James Wolfe was entrusted with access to classified, secret, and top-
secret information provided by the executive branch, including the
United States intelligence community that they provided to the Senate
Select Committee on Intelligence.
Wolfe was alleged to have lied to FBI agents in December 2017 about
his repeated contacts with three reporters, including through his use
of encrypted messaging applications. Wolfe is further alleged to have
made false statements to the FBI about providing two reporters with
nonpublic information related to the matters occurring before the
Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.
He was sentenced to 2 months in prison, 4 months supervised release
for lying to the FBI. He has to complete 20 hours of community
service--20 hours a month during his release for those 4 months--and
pay a $7,500 fine.

You compare what he did with what Roger Stone did. Roger Stone wasn't
dealing with any classified information, secret or top secret. He used
some bad judgment. But Jesse Liu's attorneys, these four who have now
quit--thank God they quit.
We need to get some people in there where, when it comes to
prosecuting, it doesn't matter what the defendant's political
persuasion is. You seek justice. And there are Democratic and
Republican attorneys, prosecutors, around the country who are quite
capable of doing that. So I sure hope that we will get some better
attorneys in the D.C. U.S. Attorney's Office.
It is amazing. I thought about Sergeant York, that movie. I believe
Gary Cooper played Sergeant York. They were in the trenches, and they
couldn't see the bad guys to stop them. He ends up using a turkey call
that he used back when he was turkey hunting. One after another, enemy
soldiers would stick their head up, and he was able to knock them off
and eventually capture this huge group. But in order to prevail, they
had to get them to stick their heads up.
I think that is what this Trump derangement syndrome has done. There
are people who have been working pervasively and, apparently, with
political vendettas, but they have been able to stay below the radar.
Along comes President Trump, and they get so deranged that they expose
who they are.
So I thank all those political opportunists and zealots who use their
position in the U.S. Government, including the Department of Justice,
who have now exposed themselves.
Vindman is one those people who have exposed his animosity, and it is
really good that he is no longer part of the National Security Council.
It is good his brother is no longer in the Office of General Counsel. I
think we will see less leaks now that he is gone from there.
Anyway, we are starting to see those people who have exposed
themselves as political operatives, rather than doing justice, or
following the orders of their Commander in Chief, we are seeing them
exposed. We are seeing them moved out.
I am hoping, in the days ahead, there will be a lot more of that
occurring. I think justice will be served better so the American people
can feel more like--and not one party or another. People need to be
able to feel, as a whole, regardless of the political persuasion of
some prosecutor, that justice is being pursued and done, as it is being
done in so many Federal districts all over the country. It has been a
problem here in Washington, D.C.
When that happens, we will all be better off.
Madam Speaker, with that, I yield back the balance of my time.

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