[Congressional Record Volume 166, Number 27 (Monday, February 10, 2020)]
[Senate]
[Pages S967-S969]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
BUDGET PROPOSAL
Mr. ENZI. Mr. President, I suspect I couldn't have come to the floor
at a better time. The President's budget did come out today. It
consists of a set of documents a foot high. In my opinion, the whole
pile should be replaced with a list from the President of what he
thinks are pretty good ideas to do this year.
I want to encourage people, including the Senator from Ohio, not to
waste any time searching out the President's budget cuts. Nobody has
listened to the President in the 23 years that I have been here.
Congress doesn't pay attention to the President's budget exercise. I
don't know why we put him through that. That is all it is.
Congress holds the pursestrings, according to the Constitution.
Congress is very protective of that constitutional authority. If you
don't believe me, watch all the rhetoric that comes out on the
President's budget. I am hoping that I hear something positive on it,
but it is pretty hard to find anything positive with the funding
situation that we are in. I do have to take issue with something that
was just said here, that the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act hasn't worked. It
has worked.
Now, a very important thing for everybody to know: The problem that
we are in right now with our deficits doesn't have to do with the
dollars that are coming in. The first year after the Tax Cuts and Jobs
Act, we took in more revenue than ever before. More people had jobs.
More people were paying taxes. Companies were paying more taxes. They
were doing more business. That results in more taxes. So, that first
year, we got more money than we had ever had to spend before.
The second year, we had more money than the first year. We keep
getting more money to spend. The problem is we have no control over our
urge to spend. Since CBO's June 2019 Long-Term Budget Outlook, Congress
has passed and the President has signed legislation that would add more
than $2 trillion to our national debt over the next 10 years. That is
how we are spending.
The increased spending caps from the Bipartisan Budget Act of 2019
are responsible for $1.7 trillion of that $2.1 trillion. It does
include interest costs, but that is what we have to pay any time we
have a debt. That $1.7 trillion passed with no debate. There was a
budget point of order. I had established a budget point of order, which
takes 60 votes. I missed by four being able to stop that. We can't
spend that way. But that isn't the President's budget. That is our
budget.
Over the next few days, you will hear lots of complaints about the
President's budget. Seldom will anybody mention anything good, and it
has been that way for every President. You will
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hear lots of terrible things about the President's budget. You won't
hear anything positive. In the present political atmosphere, you
probably will not learn anything from the comments. Little of a
positive nature is getting any coverage in Washington these days.
Recently, I went to a hearing on the dangers of youth vaping. It
turned into a diatribe about President Trump. Presidents' budgets,
regardless of what President, are a chance for Members not in his party
to beat up verbally on whoever is President. For that reason, I didn't
hold a hearing on President Obama's last budget, and I will not be
holding one on this President's budget for that reason. Let me repeat
that. Because it turns into a diatribe against the President, I did not
hold a hearing on President Obama's last budget, and, for that same
reason, I am not going to hold a hearing on this President's budget.
If you want the animosity of a budget hearing, the House of
Representatives will have the Office of Management and Budget, OMB, for
a hearing this Wednesday. You can take that in and get your dose of
animosity if you want. It will be a chance for the House to ask loaded,
venomous questions of the Director.
The budget process is not working. The only thing of real value in
any President's budget is our history of spending. That is what has
already been done. We ought to look at that. We ought to see the
mistakes that we have made, the way that we have piled up this debt. If
Congress, for once, could spend a portion of the scrutiny they give to
the President's projected cuts and, instead, look at the history of our
spending, we might be able to gain ground. Yes, only cuts will be
blasted, even though we never make cuts; we just keep spending.
The official budget is done in the Senate and separately in the House
and is only official if the House and Senate can reach agreement. When
the two Chambers of Congress are opposite majorities, there is little
chance for agreement. From history, I can assure you cuts will not be
made. I can also assure you that seldom does any program get as big of
an increase as the participants request, but that is changing. There is
no spending constraint. There is seldom an attempt to find money to
cover the costs, especially on new services that are dreamed up.
I will do a budget. I will ask the Democrats to help put together a
responsible budget, working with Republicans. That is really the only
way it can work responsibly. What do I mean by ``responsibly''? The
Budget Committee only sets limits on spending. A lot of people think
that we dig into every detail and decide how much everybody is going to
get. No. We set limits in a broad number of categories. It is the
Appropriations Committee that allocates the specific dollars, but we
always wind up spending beyond the limit set by the budget, even if a
budget can be agreed on.
How can that happen? When a spending bill or a spending idea comes to
the Senate floor, the bill technically needs 60 votes to pass. To bust
the budget limits also only takes 60 votes, so any idea or spending
bill that is able to pass already, it already has the votes to bust the
budget and put us deeper into debt.
Congress also doesn't meet spending deadlines. If Congress passes a
continuing resolution, which means we couldn't agree by the end of the
fiscal year, the government stays open with permission to spend each
month 1/12 of what it was allocated the previous year. That is what a
continuing resolution does; it allows them to keep operating at what
they had before.
Continuing resolutions continue until both sides are able to
negotiate what they want, but the new method of compromise is you can
have everything you want as long as you will let me have everything I
want. What kind of negotiation is that?
Well, as I mentioned before, it is $1.7 trillion and one vote with no
debate. Yeah. How would your Christmas shopping for your family work
under those circumstances where everybody could have whatever they
wanted? Wouldn't it even be worse if you were spending someone else's
money for those Christmas presents? What if it appeared to be an
unlimited supply of money? How long would that last?
Of course, if a continuing resolution doesn't pass, the government is
shut down. The employees are sent home. Federal public places are shut
down and closed to the public. When agreement is finally reached, the
employees come back. They are paid for the time they were off. They are
way behind in their work, which hurts the economy when permits aren't
released--and other things. We also have to pay lots of overtime to
catch up for the time they were off.
There are several proposals out there that could stop shutdowns and
put pressure on Congress to get the spending job done on time. How long
can we overspend? Well, interest, I think, is currently in the area of
2\1/2\ percent. If people lose confidence in the Federal Government, we
will have to pay a higher interest rate in order to get the money to
cover the debt. Yes, we have to pay the interest. If we default on the
interest, the country defaults. If that interest rate were to go from
the current 2\1/2\ percent to the normal 5 percent, we would only be
able to pay for Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.
You didn't hear me say anything about defense. You didn't hear me say
anything about education. You didn't hear me say anything about
infrastructure. You didn't hear me say anything except Social Security,
Medicaid, and Medicare. That is what happens if people lose confidence
in this, if they think we are overspending continually and that we
don't intend to get control over it.
I will tell you a few other things that you might not be aware of.
Did you know that most Federal dollars are spent without Congress ever
voting on it a second time? Those are called mandatory programs. Once a
program is approved in the mandatory category, that spending is never
voted on again. Worse yet, no one hardly ever looks at the program to
see if it does what it was supposed to do. Nothing should be mandatory
that doesn't have a source of revenue--that is, money--sufficient to
fund it into the future. Do you know what that would amount to if we
had that kind of rule on mandatory?
Social Security no longer brings in as much money as we pay out.
Medicare doesn't bring in the money that we pay out. Medicaid doesn't
bring in the money that we pay out. In the mandatory programs, there
are probably only about four that have a source of revenue to fund
them. The rest all take money from the general fund, which means that
the general fund doesn't really have any money for the discretionary
things that we vote on--you know, that big fight we have once a year
come October 1 to fund the rest of government--and mostly defense is in
that category.
I don't get invited to speak at many places. It is kind of
depressing.
But once the program is approved, mandatory spending is never voted
on again, and no one looks at the program to see what it is supposed to
do. They still get their annual money, even though some of these
programs have expired. They had an expiration date, and we went past
the expiration date, which means the program shouldn't exist anymore,
but it does, and we continue to fund it, not only at its previous,
expired level. We keep adding cost-of-living increases for it. Yes, it
is probably needed, but what is the money really doing?
No business would be in business if they didn't check even more than
annually to see what is working effectively and eliminating those that
aren't. We should be doing that task. When was the last time you saw a
program eliminated around here? I have been here 23 years. Nope.
Then there is the problem with program duplication. When I got to
Washington, there were 119 preschool children's programs. Those are
really important. If kids get the learning they need before they go to
kindergarten, it makes a difference in the rest of their life--but 119
programs? Senator Kennedy and I worked together and merged quite a few
of those. We eliminated some--so there are some programs that got
eliminated--and we got that down to 45 programs. Five would probably do
the job. We did pass an amendment to a bill that said that those had to
be pared down to five programs, and that all of them had to be under
the Department of Education. The reason we weren't able to get
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below 45 is because we didn't have jurisdiction over those in Health,
Education, Labor, and Pensions. Those were all in other groups.
In the area of housing, we have 160 programs--160 programs--and they
are administered by 20 different agencies. So really, nobody is in
charge. So nobody is setting goals. So nobody is checking to see if it
is working. Nobody is checking to see if the program over here in one
of those 20 is the same as the program over here in another one of the
20, which would allow them to be merged.
Merging saves money. If you merge, you only need one director,
instead of two, and you don't need all the assistants there were. You
only need the assistants for one program, and the money that would be
stuck in Washington can actually go to what we thought was going to get
done. Every merger results in savings. Elimination results in more
savings. How much better would it be to move the money to where the
results are?
The proposed budget reforms that Senator Whitehouse and I have worked
on would provide for portfolio reviews. Here is how that works. Each
committee would have to look at all of the programs, of the type that
would be in their jurisdiction if it weren't handled in a bunch of
other places. So those other places would have to look at the ones
under their jurisdiction. If we can get that portfolio review, I think
we would find that some of those areas where we are doing it time after
time, mostly by just adding to Washington bureaucracy.
We want the money out there where the problem is. We think we are
solving problems, but we are not solving problems. We are just hiring
more people in DC. We used to have a policy that the last person hired
would be the first person fired and that resulted in an increase in
government, too, because as soon as you got hired, you could expand
your workload so you needed an assistant, and now you weren't the first
in line to be fired. That has resulted in a lot of people working in
Washington. How much money actually makes it to the problem? We ought
to see if the money makes it to the people or if we are just increasing
Washington bureaucracy.
Over the next few weeks, I will be going into some detail on each of
these problems with budgeting. I will also be promoting the budget
reforms that Senator Whitehouse and I and the Budget Committee have put
out favorably. I think that is the first budget provision in about the
last 2 two decades that has come out of the committee in a bipartisan
way.
Now, I could tell you that the reforms that we proposed will not
solve all of the problem. You can't take that big of a leap when you
have that big of a problem. But while those reforms will not solve the
problem, they should help to make the solutions more noticeable.
We are having trouble getting that on the floor, too.
I really came to the floor to eliminate some of the concerns about
the President's budget. I want people to know that they don't all have
to fly to Washington to make their case to the Budget Committee for
their program. Once the Budget Committee sets the parameters, then, the
detail comes into play with the Appropriations Committee.
Talk to your appropriators. They spend the money--the exact dollars.
Do your work there, but be sure your program is as effective as it can
be. Also, take a little look at how many similar Federal programs there
are. See if there can be a savings by merging some, thus getting more
money out in the field where you are and getting more money on the
problem.
Once again, the President's budget came out today. It consists of a
set of documents a foot high. In my opinion, the whole pile should be
replaced with a list from the President of what he thinks are pretty
good ideas to do this year and, hopefully, there will also be a little
piece in there that says how you can pay for it.
So don't waste any time searching out the President's budget program
cuts. Congress doesn't pay any attention to the President's budget
exercise. That is all it is--an exercise. Congress holds the purse
strings, according to the Constitution, and Congress is very protective
of that constitutional authority. Now we need to do the work that goes
with that authority.
I yield the floor.
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