[Congressional Record Volume 165, Number 205 (Wednesday, December 18, 2019)]
[Senate]
[Pages S7126-S7127]
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Impeachment
Mr. SCHUMER. Mr. President, in response to the limited set of
relevant witnesses I proposed for a potential Senate trial earlier this
week, the Republican leader gave a lengthy speech on the floor
yesterday and another speech today. In neither of those speeches could
the Republican leader offer one salient argument as to why the
witnesses I proposed--all senior Trump administration officials--
shouldn't be allowed to testify. Instead, he made what are, in my view,
irrelevant and incomplete comparisons to the 1999 Clinton trial.
When faced with the fact that it is only fair to have these
witnesses, who were eyewitnesses to the major, major allegations
against the President and who had not testified before, the leader
can't talk about 2019. He has to go back to 1999 because he has no good
argument as to why they shouldn't testify.
We are not asking to be dilatory. We are not asking for a list of
4,000 witnesses. We are simply asking that those who know the truth
best come and talk to us here in the Senate and to the American people.
There is one fact that is impossible for the Senate to ignore. In the
two Presidential impeachment trials in the history of this body, the
Senate heard from witnesses, but Leader McConnell continues to push for
no witnesses in the Senate trial. I have yet to hear an explanation as
to why less evidence is better than more evidence, particularly when it
comes to something as somber, as serious, and as important as
impeachment of the President of the United States of America.
Leader McConnell keeps talking about 1999 because he doesn't want to
talk about 2019. The two situations are not analogous. Rather than
focus on the past, the Republican leader should focus on the present
and offer one good reason why relevant witnesses shouldn't testify in
an impeachment trial of President Trump, particularly in light of the
fact that we have not
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heard from them. They probably have better evidence than anybody, even
though the evidence the House has prepared, in the eyes of so many, is
overwhelming.
I was disappointed to hear yesterday that Leader McConnell declared
that he would not be an impartial juror when it comes to the serious
charges against President Trump. He said it proudly. What kind of
example does that set for the country, which is looking for fairness
and impartiality?
In the event of a trial, every Senator will swear an oath--different
from our standard oath of office--to do impartial justice, but
yesterday McConnell told reporters: ``I'm not an impartial juror. This
is a political process. I'm not impartial about this at all.'' Let me
repeat that. Let the American people hear it loud and clear. The
Republican leader said proudly: ``I'm not an impartial juror. . . . I'm
not impartial about this at all.'' This is an astonishing admission of
partisanship. The President may demand these public displays of fealty,
but they are troubling for the leader of an independent branch of our
government. I hope all Senators will take seriously the oath to do
impartial justice that we seem likely to take in the near future.
The House of Representatives, of course, will take a historic vote
today on the impeachment of President Donald J. Trump. If the articles
of impeachment are passed, the focus will quickly move to the Senate,
where our Chamber will serve as a court of impeachment. We must, very
soon, figure out the rules and procedures that will allow the Senate to
rise to this occasion.
Despite our disagreements, I do expect to sit down with Leader
McConnell in the near future to discuss these matters. I have proposed
a very reasonable structure for a trial based on the grand American
tradition of a fair and speedy trial. We propose four witnesses--only
those with direct knowledge of the charges made by the House; only
those who could provide new, relevant, and potentially illuminating
testimony--and place strict time limits on each stage of the process to
prevent the trial from dragging out too long. No one is interested in
delaying.
The Senate's goal, above all, should be to conduct a trial with
dignity, fairness to both sides, and one that examines all the relevant
facts. There are large partisan divisions these days, but I suspect
most Senate Republicans would agree with these goals. I suspect that
even President Trump would agree with these goals--or at least say that
he did. The President has repeatedly complained about a lack of due
process and said that he ``would love''--his words--``would love'' for
aides like Mr. Mulvaney to testify in the Senate.
Setting aside for the moment that the President has refused to
participate in the House process despite multiple invitations; setting
aside for the moment that he has blocked witnesses from appearing and
documents from being produced--Mr. President, we are offering you the
due process you sought in your letter last night. Allow your current
and former aides--Mulvaney, Blair, Duffey, Bolton--to testify on your
behalf. Turn over all the requested documents and show that you and
your aides didn't try to use taxpayer money to force a foreign
government to announce an investigation against your political
opponent. Let the truth come out.
Mr. President, we are offering you due process. Due process means the
right to be heard. Please take it. Don't ask for it and then refuse to
take advantage of it.
President Trump, you have a habit of accusing others of the offenses
that you have, in fact, committed. You accuse the House of affording no
due process while obstructing the process every step of the way. If you
truly want due process to present your side of the case, President
Trump, let your aides testify and turn over the documents we requested.
We want to conduct a fair trial--fair to both sides. We don't know
whether the witnesses we propose will incriminate the President or
exonerate him. They are the appointees of President Donald J. Trump;
they are hardly biased. We don't know what their testimony will be, but
we do know one thing: We should hear from them. We just want the
facts--``Just the facts, ma'am,'' as Detective Friday says--facts that
will allow Senators to make fully informed decisions about something as
serious--so serious--as the conviction or acquittal of an impeached
President.
Each individual Senator will have the power and will have the
responsibility to help shape what an impeachment trial looks like. Do
my Republican colleagues want a fair and honest trial that examines all
the facts, or do they want to participate in a coverup?