[Congressional Record Volume 165, Number 197 (Tuesday, December 10, 2019)]
[House]
[Pages H10013-H10014]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
SOCIALISM IS ABOUT ABSOLUTE GOVERNMENT CONTROL
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under the Speaker's announced policy of
January 3, 2019, the Chair recognizes the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr.
Grothman) for 30 minutes.
Mr. GROTHMAN. Mr. Speaker, I would like to talk a little bit about
the border, which is probably the most important issue facing America
today as we determine what kind of country we have 10 or 15 years down
the road, but I am going to lead off by talking a little bit about the
past topic of capitalism versus socialism, because I don't think a lot
of people realize exactly what socialism is about.
Socialism is about absolute government control.
People who are socialists want everybody to have to work for the
government. Because they control the means of production, they want to
determine what we have the right to buy, and they want to determine
what we have the ability to invest in.
Obviously, if you have to work for the government, which you have to
in socialism, they can determine who gets hired, who gets promoted,
what job you get. In other words, they will eventually use that
absolute power that comes with being everybody's employer or
everybody's regulator to promote you or hire you based upon your
feelings, based upon your ideas.
Not long ago, I went to Berlin and I saw the StasiMuseum, where, in
the wonderful socialist country of East Germany, the government kept
track of how you thought--kind of the way they do in China today--how
you thought and if maybe you didn't say the right things. And maybe if
the government becomes anti-Christian or doesn't like your other
beliefs, they will miraculously fire you, you can't get the key job,
you can't get promoted or whatever. That is why people who like to
control lives more frequently become socialists.
You look at the red flags under socialism that existed in the 1930s,
and you will see those red flags--at the time, red meant socialism--all
were adapted by leaders who liked absolute control of their
populations.
So, if anybody out there wants to vote socialism, what they are
voting for is to get rid of their freedoms. They are saying: I turn my
life over to the government. I want the government to tell me where I
can work and what I can do when I am working. I want the government to
tell me what I can buy.
And if anybody accumulates wealth, they are saying: I want the
government to be able to tell me where I can invest.
That is the mindset of the socialist.
There are fears that someday America may go socialist. Actually, that
shouldn't happen, because socialism is unconstitutional under the U.S.
Constitution, and any academic who pushes socialism should be aware of
that.
If you want to be, I guess it would amount to being a real serf. If
you want to be a serf and have the government tell you where you have
to work, tell you whether you can be promoted or not, tell you what you
can invest in, and tell you what you can buy, you should go to another
country, because the people who put together our Constitution, a goal
was that we would never become anything like socialism.
Immigration
Mr. GROTHMAN. Mr. Speaker, now, let's talk a little bit about what
was a major issue that used to be covered by the press, including the
conservative press, before we started down the path to this
impeachment, and that was the issue that was the primary reason why
President Trump was elected: That issue is immigration and who we are
going to let in this country.
I don't think it has been well publicized, but just yesterday, we got
the information from Border Patrol that they processed 42,000 people
trying to come in this country either under asylum or inappropriately
during the month of November.
That is down from 45,000 in October, so I suppose you could say we
are moving the ball in the right direction. It is down from 145,000 in
May.
Of those 42,000, under 5,000 actually got to come in the country. The
vast majority who were not let in immediately, thanks to the work of
President Trump, are currently being held in Mexico pending hearings.
This is something President Trump has done without any help from the
people in this body. He has done it by negotiating with Mexico and
negotiating with the triangle countries in Central America. He has
reached agreements or is receiving help from Guatemala, from Honduras,
from El Salvador, and from Mexico itself.
To a certain extent, through threat of tariffs, he has the Mexican
Government patrolling its southern border--not doing that great a job,
but they are patrolling their southern border.
He has Central American countries doing what they can to hold on to
their current population and allowing countries from which people are
seeking asylum to settle in their country, which only makes sense. If
you wanted to leave Venezuela, you speak Spanish. It doesn't make any
sense that you would come to an English-speaking country. It makes more
sense, if you really feel threatened at home, to go to countries like
Guatemala and El Salvador and Honduras and Mexico.
So these efforts by President Trump have dropped the number processed
from 145,000 down to 42,000 and the number of people being let in our
country from over 100,000 to under 5,000 a month.
But it is always possible we are going to have a court decision
undoing some of the efforts of President Trump, and, God forbid, it is
possible we might have an election and a future President may not agree
with the efforts made by President Trump.
So what should this body be doing? We have to remind this body that,
right now, we are only two of the 40 wealthiest countries on the globe
to allow birthright citizenship.
If somebody went down to the border, it is obvious that women who are
near having birth are coming into this country to have children, which
would make their children U.S. citizens and would create a situation in
which, as a practical matter, they would stay there with them.
We have a situation of chain migration in which people are coming
here not because they are qualified to work here, but because they have
relatives who are here, and we may be taking people who are not
necessarily a good economic bargain for the United States.
We need more ICE beds for single adults to be held right now. It is
very difficult for ICE to do their job without these beds. As we are
working through appropriations bills, it is time to pass a bill with
that in there.
We need more Border Patrol agents. Can you imagine what it is like at
night doing the border patrol, finding 20 or 40 or 50 people coming
across the border at once, and it is 2 o'clock in the morning and you
are the one expected to bring people in? We have to respect our Border
Patrol.
We have a huge problem that, under current law, we are encouraging
separation of families, and that is not President Trump's fault. He
would be happy to change it.
Right now, we have a law in which, if a child comes here from Canada
or Mexico, they could be sent back, but children coming from Central
America,
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Africa, other places in Latin America, we have to let them in the
country. That is a horrible thing.
We wouldn't like it if a 15-year-old child left the United States and
wound up in Nicaragua or Honduras. We would expect them to be returned
to their parents.
We are asking this body to pass a law allowing the United States to
return single children to their parents and other countries. The other
countries would like it.
It is very arrogant of the United States and arrogant of this body to
continue the current system in which a child, unaccompanied by their
parents, comes here and we have to keep them.
Right now, under the Flores settlement, we have to stop holding
people after 20 days near the border, families with children. It is
time that we statutorily change that and allow the holding of people
for a longer period of time.
We have to do something with sanctuary cities. We have to do
something so that, if people break the law and are being held in
prisons and being held in jails, the Federal Government has the ability
to remove these people from the country.
For whatever motivation, there are people in this country going down
the path of having their city--and including people in this House
encouraging cities--not ask people about immigration status and
forbidding our immigration service from removing criminals from this
country. That is another thing that we ought to be doing now.
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Other things that President Trump is trying to do--but he needs a
little bit of help here--we currently have illegals in low-income
housing. I am not sure we need more low-income housing in this country,
but a lot of people feel we do. Right now we have the rather bizarre
situation in which people who are here illegally are sitting in low-
income housing, while American citizens are on a waiting list,
including people like homeless veterans.
I want to point out that President Trump and myself are not anti-
immigrant to say this. It recently came to my attention that the number
of immigrants sworn in in this country in the last year available is
830,000. Two years prior to that we were under 700,000.
So President Trump has presided over a dramatic increase in the
number of people who are coming in this country legally, showing his
compassion and understanding that we do need immigrants in this
country.
However, it is time Congress stepped to the plate and did what was
necessary to rein in out-of-control illegal immigration. So I encourage
my colleagues not to forget about this crisis. I encourage the media,
particularly the conservative media, not to take their eye off this
ball, which will determine what the United States looks like 5 and 10
and 25 years from now.
I realize there are a lot of people who want the media to only focus
on immigration, but we cannot forget what is going on in the
immigration front.
I yield back the remainder of my time.
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