[Congressional Record Volume 165, Number 181 (Wednesday, November 13, 2019)]
[Senate]
[Pages S6522-S6524]
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Recognition of the Minority Leader
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Democratic leader is recognized.
Mr. SCHUMER. Mr. President, I am so glad to be out here today to deal
with the issue of reducing prices on drugs for seniors and others.
There are so many things we must do. Some are small. Some are large. We
want to do all of them.
We Democrats know how bad drug prices are for seniors. We know how
bad the sabotage of our healthcare system is for seniors. If you don't
have insurance, you probably can't pay for the drugs no matter what
happens.
I would say to my good friend the Senator from Texas that we have a
whole lot of legislative ideas, not just his. He demands his. It is
good, but it is hardly large. There are millions and millions who need
help who are not affected. The Senators from Illinois and Iowa have a
bill to lower prescription drug costs. The HELP Committee has a bill
that would help community health centers. The Senate Finance Committee
has a good bipartisan bill to lower costs for seniors who are very
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strong supporters of allowing Medicare to negotiate prices. That would
do more than anything else.
I ask my friend from Texas, Will he get his leader and himself to
allow us to bring an amendment to a bill on the floor that protects
seniors who have preexisting conditions from their insurance companies
withdrawing from them? Will he let us do that? That is far more
consequential than his well-intended good but not largely effective
bill. The No. 1 thing--ask AARP--the No. 1 thing that will protect
senior citizens and others from high drug prices is to allow Medicare
to negotiate with them, something the Senator has blocked repeatedly.
Will he change his position?
Let's not have this charade, this manipulative charade, where my dear
friend from Texas comes to the floor with a bill he proposes but blocks
everything and his party blocks everything that would have a far larger
consequence.
No. 1, allow Medicare to negotiate. Every Member of our caucus is for
that. It will lower drug prices dramatically. No. 2, stop the
administration--the administration the Senator from Texas supports 95
percent of the time--even my microphone is excited about these remarks.
I, once again, thank our capable staff who always come to the rescue.
We need Senator Cornyn to come to the rescue of senior citizens and
not play a little game like this. Again, preexisting conditions are
probably the No. 1 bane of people. We want to bring an amendment to the
floor to protect those people--a mom whose daughter has cancer, and the
drug company says, ``You're off,'' and the insurance company says,
``You're gone.'' Isn't that important? Let's not make a comparison, but
wouldn't it do far more for the health of the American middle class and
working people than this bill? Let's do them both, but we are not going
to cherry-pick one unless the Senator from Texas walks across the aisle
and joins us in saying: I want to help you get a vote on eliminating
preexisting condition prohibitions. I want to join you in seeing that
Medicare can negotiate with the drug companies and greatly lower
prices.
So, of course, I object. We Democrats believe we should bring a bill
to the floor that has a debate and allows amendments because there is
so much to be done here--not one small, decently put together and
decently intended proposal but many more. We know, if we allow our
Republican friends to just pass their little bills, we will never get
the big picture done. That is how this place works. So let's come
together and do it all.
I object.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Objection is heard.
The Senator from Texas.
Mr. CORNYN. Mr. President, like the minority leader, I hope we are
able to pass a larger bipartisan package this year. I serve on the
Finance Committee--
Mr. SCHUMER. Would the gentleman yield for a question?
Mr. CORNYN. After I am through.
Mr. SCHUMER. Thank you.
Mr. CORNYN. I serve on the Finance Committee and on the Judiciary
Committee, where this bill came from, and I know Senator Murray and
Senator Alexander have a package out of the Health, Education, Labor,
and Pensions Committee. I welcome the opportunity to have those bills
come to the floor and to offer amendments and debate them and pass them
because I agree that the country would benefit by bringing down
healthcare costs, by bringing down prescription drug costs, and I
believe that work is long overdue, but my bill is not going to sink the
prospects of that larger package of legislation.
What we have in front of us is an uncontested, bipartisan bill that
we can pass today. Let's pass it. Let's not let the perfect be the
enemy of the good. What I hear the minority leader saying is that it is
either everything or nothing.
Mr. SCHUMER. Will the Senator yield for a correction?
Mr. CORNYN. Mr. President, I will yield for a question after I am
through talking.
When there is a statement, in effect, of ``I want everything to be
done now or there will be nothing done at all,'' do you know what
happens? Every single time that argument is made and that position is
taken, nothing happens. Nothing happens. That is what people hate about
Washington, DC, and when they look at C-SPAN, if they do look at C-
SPAN, and see these debates. It is everything or nothing.
The Democratic leader, who has now objected to the unanimous consent
request to take up and pass a bill that he has called good and well-
intentioned and has said is not large, has objected to it. I think the
only people who would be rejoicing at this very moment would be the
very same people who are gaming the patent system and who are keeping
the out-of-pocket prices of prescription drugs high for seniors. Those
are the people who are popping champagne corks right now because this
is nothing more than a big, wet kiss for the people who are gaming the
patent system right now to the detriment of the American people.
Mr. SCHUMER. Will the Senator yield for a question?
Mr. CORNYN. I yield to the Democratic leader.
Mr. SCHUMER. Would the Senator support a unanimous consent request so
that we could protect people with preexisting conditions, and would he
support bringing that to the floor in the same way?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Texas.
Mr. CORNYN. Mr. President, I would say to my friend the Democratic
leader that I support coverage for preexisting conditions, and I am not
aware of anyone in the Senate who opposes it. If such a bill is
scheduled for a vote on the floor, I will be more than happy to
participate in that process.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Democratic leader.
Mr. SCHUMER. Will the Senator support a proposal that is coming out
of the House to allow Medicare to negotiate with the drug companies to
greatly lower prices?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Texas.
Mr. CORNYN. Mr. President, in speaking through the Presiding Officer,
I say to my friend that nothing gets done around here unless it is
bipartisan. Right now, the bill that the House has sent us is one that
divides people along party lines, which means it is unlikely we would
build the bipartisan consensus we would need to get it done in the
Senate. I am more than happy to engage in that debate and to vote on
amendments on such a bill, but I am not going to agree to price-fixing
by the U.S. Government, which will make more scarce and less available
the lifesaving prescription drugs that many people need. Yet I am happy
to engage in that debate, to vote, and to let the Senate and Congress
work their will.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Democratic leader.
Mr. SCHUMER. Mr. President, I thank my colleague for his answers.
I would say this: Let him use his power and position as leader to go
to the majority leader, who has prevented any debate on anything on
drugs to come to the floor, including these two most significant issues
that I have talked about. Let us put a package together of all three
and have a debate on each, a ``yes'' or ``no'' vote on each, and really
make progress for those who are paying too much in drug prices. I await
his working with me on that. Then we could bring all three bills to the
floor.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Texas.
Mr. CORNYN. Mr. President, as always, I am happy to work with the
Senator from New York on things on which we find our interests aligned.
Obviously, there are going to be things on which we disagree.
Frequently, there are. Yet he and I have worked together on legislation
on which we have been able to find enough common interest to be able to
build a consensus and get things done. They call that ``legislating''
around here.
There are other things that we should be doing here on a bipartisan
basis. For example, taking up and passing the appropriations bills,
including the Defense appropriations bill, so our U.S. military can
remain the most powerful, the best equipped, the best trained, and the
best led military in the world. That is of overwhelming importance. Yet
our colleagues on the other side have objected to and have blocked, on
at least two occasions, that
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Defense appropriations bill. Now we have a short-term continuing
resolution that expires this November 21. I am told or have read that
there is likely to be a follow-on continuing resolution that takes us
up to December 20, but that is important work, too, because none of us
wants to see another government shutdown. No one wins with government
shutdowns.
This sort of gamesmanship that occurs by blocking bills that should
have support by overwhelming bipartisan numbers in the Senate is
important, too--things like paying the military, making sure that it
maintains its readiness to fight and win the Nation's wars, and even
more importantly, making sure it keeps the peace.
I know the majority leader has a challenge in trying to figure out
how to schedule legislation on the Senate floor, but it certainly
doesn't help when our Democratic colleagues repeatedly object to things
like appropriations bills and put us into this dysfunction when it
comes to paying the Federal Government's bills.
I would say to my friend from New York that I am always happy to work
with him and with any other Member in the Senate, no matter what one's
political party is and no matter what one's ideological persuasion is,
because I actually believe we were sent here to solve problems and to
get things done.
What I dislike and what I am disappointed about is the dysfunction
that we see in the U.S. Senate, whereby, even though it is less than a
year before the election, politics have overwhelmed our ability to get
things done. I came to the floor to say that maybe we can't do all of
this right now, today, but we can do this, and let's build on it once
we have gotten the bill passed.
I am disappointed that the Democratic leader has seen fit to object
to passing this bill that he himself called good and well-intended and
that is supported by organizations like the American Association of
Retired Persons. I do not understand it, but maybe somebody else does.
Their saying that we can't do something because it doesn't include
everything we want to do here, right now, is disappointing to me, and I
don't think it is what the American people sent us here to do.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Democratic leader.
Mr. SCHUMER. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent to speak as in
morning business.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. SCHUMER. Mr. President, I thank my colleague for the interchange,
and it will continue. We Democrats will not rest until we get votes,
simple votes--not bring the house down--on issues of great consequence
with regard to drug prices and the American people while the other side
blocks them.