[Congressional Record Volume 165, Number 163 (Wednesday, October 16, 2019)]
[Senate]
[Pages S5820-S5822]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]



                            Turkey and Syria

  Mr. LANKFORD. Mr. President, let me take you back to December 2016. 
We are all getting ready for Christmas. It is a month after President 
Trump is elected. He will not take his office for another month after 
that, but in Turkey they are reeling from a coup attempt that happened 
in October. Hundreds of people were killed--chaos. Turkish President 
Erdogan overreacted, locking up hundreds of thousands of people, 
including one of our pastors, Pastor Andrew Brunson, and implementing 
martial law, which was kept in place for years after that. Rapidly 
changing the Constitution, he has transitioned himself from a President 
duly elected and operating a free democracy that has been Turkey to 
radically changing the direction of the country in the future. A long-
term NATO ally is going through real turmoil.
  In October that coup happened, and all the transition was occurring, 
but by December, as I mentioned before, they were rocked again. On 
December 17, 2016, a bus was stopped at a red light near a campus in 
Turkey when a car bomb exploded, killing members of the Turkish 
military. Thirteen people were killed and 55 were wounded in that 
blast. Forty-eight of those killed and wounded were off-duty military 
personnel, most of them privates and corporals.
  The same day, at another location in a different part of that 
community, still in Turkey, there was a soccer stadium attack that 
happened. In that attack, 44 people died and more than 150 people were 
wounded. Three days later--actually two days after that, December 19, 
2016, the Russian Ambassador to Turkey was assassinated in Ankara while 
he was giving a public speech.
  Most Americans don't know this because we were getting ready for 
Christmas, and we were watching the transition of President Obama to 
President Trump. There was a lot of chaos that was happening in that 
region at that time. I happened to be in Turkey when all of that was 
going on, meeting with Turkish officials, trying to negotiate for the 
release of Andrew Brunson, working toward our ongoing relationship and 
trying to figure out what direction Turkey was going to go because they 
have been a longstanding ally to the United States and a NATO partner, 
but they certainly were not acting like it in 2016, and now, in 2019, 
they are certainly not acting like it.
  The car bombs I mentioned and the terrorist actions that happened 
might surprise some Americans to know weren't led by ISIS fighters 
fighting in Turkey. The innocents who were killed that day were killed 
by Kurdish terrorists--Kurdish folks who had been listed in the U.S. 
listing of official terrorist organizations, a group called the 
Kurdistan Workers Party, or the PKK--the abbreviation in that language. 
The PKK has been listed as a terror organization by the United States 
for decades.
  Let me give some context. In the course of the dialogue I have heard 
in the last couple of weeks about the Kurds and about the Turks, 
everyone wants to seem to oversimplify this issue. Everyone wants to 
say who are the good guys and the bad guys, and they are missing the 
point in the history of what is happening in this region.
  The Kurds have 25 million people. It is the fourth largest ethnic 
group in the Middle East. They live mostly in Turkey, Iraq, Syria, 
Iran, and Armenia. They have all different political parties, and they 
have all different backgrounds. For over a century, they have worked to 
have their own nation.

  Interestingly enough, after World War I and all of the changes on the 
map after World War I, the Kurds were promised their own country, the 
country of Kurdistan, because they were a minority population for a 
long time in that region. So they worked for and pressed for their own 
country during that time period. Yet, when the boundaries were drawn at 
the end of World War I, after they had been promised that they would 
have their homeland, instead, a larger Turkey was drawn, and the Kurds 
were just listed as a minority group inside of Turkey.
  They face incredible persecution within Turkey. They are not allowed 
to call themselves Kurds. Instead, they are called mountain Turks in 
that area. They are not allowed to wear certain garb, and they are not 
allowed to practice their customs. They are oppressed in every area. 
They have worked for a long time and have asked: How can we have a free 
people's area?
  For the Kurds who live in northern Iraq, it is one of the freest 
areas in all of the Middle East. They have the freedom of religion and 
a free capitalist economy. It is a thriving economy in northern Iraq. 
They have democratically led elections, and they worked with us to 
overthrow Saddam Hussein after Saddam Hussein gassed thousands of Kurds 
to death in that Kurdish region of Iraq. They were gassed by Saddam 
Hussein. They have been forced out of their homes and have been 
isolated, and for decades, they have worked to have a free country.
  In 2017, the Kurds who were in northern Iraq had their own referendum 
to be able to establish their own place. They made a bold move and 
said: The world will not acknowledge us; so we will acknowledge 
ourselves. So, in a bold referendum in September of 2017, 90 percent of 
the Kurds voted to form their own country out of northern Iraq. 
Quickly, the Iraqi Government moved into that zone and squashed them.
  In the middle of the conflict that we have talked about before with 
ISIS, ISIS moved into areas in Syria and in Iraq and pressed in against 
the Kurds in order to attack them. When the Kurds were not able to 
establish their homeland, ISIS was determined to establish its own 
caliphate and its own land by beheading people and by murdering 
thousands of people. As they moved into the Kurdish area, the Turks on 
the other side of the border simply watched the refugees flee across 
the border, for ISIS was not killing Turks. It was killing Kurds, and 
they didn't care. The Turks would handle the refugees as long as ISIS 
was doing their bidding in Syria.
  You see, this is a complicated issue for us because there are 
sections of the Kurds that have fought for democracy for decades. Many 
of them have been doing it in exactly the right way--in having 
referendums, in organizing and working with U.N. officials, and in 
working with the countries around them to demographically establish an 
area in which they would be free to live and to worship and to function 
in a capitalist economy. That has been the Kurds' desire. There has 
also been an offshoot of the Kurds, called the PKK, that has for 
decades carried out car bombs and attacks, many of them in Turkey, 
where hundreds of civilians have been killed.

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  President Erdogan, of Turkey, has determined that all Kurds are the 
same and has ruthlessly lashed out at them. Now, I think about how we 
operated in Afghanistan and how differently the United States really 
thought about military warfare. As the Taliban and al-Qaida rose up in 
Afghanistan, we engaged in the most Surgical way we possibly could with 
violent Taliban members and with members of al-Qaida and took the 
battle specifically to them while we established a friendship and a 
longstanding partnership with the Afghan people.
  We don't look at all Afghans in the same way, in some blanket 
declaration. We understand that there is a violent faction that has to 
be addressed for world peace and that there are others who just want 
their children to grow up and go to school.
  We have engaged them in a way that is very different than how Turkey 
is currently engaging them in the Turkish population. As the battle 
raged in Syria and finished out with the civil war in Syria and the 
fight with ISIS off the Kurdish areas, everyone knew, when this calmed 
down, that at some future date, the Turks would start going after the 
Kurds. It has been known for years. In fact, in 2016, when I was in 
Ankara, Turkey, at that point in December, and watched all of this 
chaos occur, that was the ongoing dialogue among Turkish leaders at 
that time--that they were going to go after the Kurds. Over and over, 
this has been the repetitive statement to the administration and, quite 
frankly, to the previous administration.
  In a series of phone calls in which President Erdogan talked to 
President Trump and said, ``We are crossing the border and going in,'' 
it left President Trump in a very difficult situation. Does he leave 
our American men and women--a very small number--in a forward operating 
base to sit there while tanks roll by and the battle rages between the 
Kurds and the Turks? Do we use them as some kind of tool to try to stop 
this? Do we get out of harm's way?
  Secretary Esper just made a statement last weekend that was very 
clear: The Turks didn't ask permission to cross the border. They said, 
``We are coming,'' and notified us in advance so that if we wanted to 
move out of the way, we could, but either way, they were coming.
  We have moved our forces into other areas and combined them into 
bases. Just recently, within the last couple of days, when the Turks 
started getting closer to our combined forces in northern Syria, we 
responded by putting up Apache helicopters and F-16s in order to fly by 
the Turks and say: Don't you dare come near American forces. At the 
same time, we are trying to do everything that we can and should in 
order to stop the bloodshed between two allies.
  I have been amazed at the number of people who have stepped up and 
said that President Trump is to blame for all that is happening with 
the Kurdish people and the Turks. They have ignored the basic history 
of what has happened in that region for a very long time--for over a 
century--with regard to the ongoing battle between the Kurds and the 
Turks. We should do everything we can to push back on this, because, 
for a large group of the Kurdish population, especially those in 
northern Iraq, they have been very close allies and friends and 
tenacious fighters against Saddam Hussein. They left their own place of 
safety in northern Iraq to help us fight the fight in Syria--to protect 
other Kurdish people, yes, but also to help protect the entire world 
from the ruthless nature of ISIS.
  We should engage and do what we can to help stop the bloodshed. As I 
mentioned before, when we moved into Afghanistan, we did it as 
surgically as we could. When Turkey moved into the Kurdish regions, it 
unleashed artillery fire against civilians and pummeled homes and 
businesses in the Kurdish towns of people who meant them no harm as 
they crossed the border into Syria.
  So what do we do? How do we respond in the days ahead? There are a 
few things I would bring up. One is the ``what I wish.''
  I wish the administration had been more clear with Turkey and her 
leaders and would have said: If you do this, it is not that we will 
impose sanctions, but here is exactly what the sanctions will be. We 
need you to know it, and it is going to happen as rapidly as possible.
  I wish that we would have moved all of the ISIS fighters out of the 
region. There are ISIS fighters who are currently imprisoned in 
northern Syria who are waiting to return back to their home countries, 
for many of them are foreign fighters from other places. Yet their home 
countries are not willing to take them back. So they are currently 
imprisoned in Syria. I wish, before the Turks crossed the border, that 
we would have done more to help to protect those prisoners and make 
sure they didn't get freed. Many of them did get freed, and the entire 
region will suffer the consequences of some very bad actors who will 
get back to the battlefield again because of that.
  I wish there had actually been coordination. Clearly, the 
administration did not coordinate with the State Department, the 
Department of Defense, and with other Kurdish leaders with regard to 
what was happening in the region and did not make sure we were securing 
those fighters and preparing for that moment. Instead, it was a rapid 
transition and a hurried process to move Americans out of harm's way in 
between two allies who were fighting each other and to try to shift 
them to other places and be able to stabilize them in those locations. 
There have been a lot of hurried responses that could have been done 
differently but were not.
  The ``now whats'' are pretty clear, though.
  President Trump has launched out and stated very clearly that there 
will be strong sanctions against military leaders within the Turkish 
Army and the key leaders in the government. He will try to put 
sanctions down as rapidly as possible on those individuals.
  He has also announced a 50-percent steel tariff on Turkey. You may 
say that it is no big deal, except for the fact that steel is a major 
export for Turkey, and it is a punishing tariff on it as a country.
  He has also started laying down additional sanctions on Turkey and 
has said all of the trade agreements and conversations are currently at 
a standstill. Turkey's economy is on the razor's edge because Erdogan 
has so mismanaged its economy for so many years.
  We have no beef with the Turkish people, but, currently, Turkey is 
being led by a leader who is leading their country into economic ruin 
and leading their military across foreign borders to haphazardly kill 
civilians. We should not tolerate that, and we should engage. We should 
make it very clear that there will be consequences.
  We should work with the U.N., as we already have started, and be more 
aggressive, by which, if there is someone to stand between two warring 
parties, it will be the U.N. peacekeepers who will do that, not 
American men and women who are sitting out there in a forward operating 
base.
  We should continue to sanction Turkish banks--those banks that did 
business with Iran. When Iran was sanctioned, Turkey continued to do 
business with some of those banks. We should increase our sanctions 
there.
  We should be extremely clear that Turkey will not get access to the 
F-35s. I cannot imagine how much stronger the response of the American 
people would be right now if it were American F-35s that were flying 
across the Syria-Turkey border to bomb our own allies the Kurds. We 
should make it very clear that there is no foreign military sales to 
Turkey, and we should continue to cut them off.
  We have to be clear in the consequences. We have to be rapid in the 
response because, right now, people are dying in northern Syria. Those 
same families and those same individuals put their own lives on the 
line to stand up against ISIS, and they stood with us in multiple 
areas. They have a great propensity toward freedom and toward 
democracy, which desperately need to grow in the Middle East.
  The chaos that is ensuing is the chaos of war. It is the pain of over 
a century of the mismanagement of this entire region. We need to stop 
the bloodshed first and continue to negotiate with every possible lever 
that we can to make sure we can bring a sense of calm to the chaos that 
is starting and do so with the greatest pressure on the Turks and on 
President Erdogan, who clearly hasn't gotten the message yet as to what 
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people and this Congress really involves.
  This is a changing situation. It is not simple, but it is one about 
which I will come back and try to inform in every way that I can. In 
order to bring justice to the process, I will encourage this body to 
smartly and quickly engage, to help impress upon the Turks to back off 
the bloodshed, and to bring war crimes against any Turk or any 
individual we can identify who is killing prisoners and attacking 
civilians.
  I yield the floor.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from the Nebraska.