[Congressional Record Volume 164, Number 158 (Tuesday, September 25, 2018)]
[Senate]
[Pages S6286-S6290]
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Recognition of the Minority Leader
The Democratic leader is recognized.
Mr. SCHUMER. Madam President, yesterday the Republican leader began
his speech with a quote of mine. Let me begin mine with a quote of his.
``We're going to plow right through it.'' That is Leader McConnell: We
are going to plow right through it. He was speaking to the Values Voter
Summit about serious allegations of sexual misconduct by Supreme Court
nominee Judge Kavanaugh. ``We're going to plow right through it.'' Does
that sound like someone who is treating these allegations with respect
and fairness and evenhandedness? Does it sound like someone who wants
to get at the real facts no matter where they fall? Certainly not to me
and not to the American people.
Then, yesterday, Leader McConnell brought the debate to a new low by
calling the allegations against Judge Kavanaugh a ``Democratic smear
job.'' Never mind that Leader McConnell has no evidence--no evidence
whatsoever--that the recent allegations were contrived by Democrats.
They were not. Never mind that Leader McConnell has no evidence--no
evidence whatsoever--that the events in question took place or didn't
take place. It seems likely they did, but he has no evidence one way or
the other because he will not even ask for an investigation of it.
He then unilaterally declared the accounts of multiple women to be
``manufactured mud,'' part of a partisan smear campaign. Let me address
these comments directly that these allegations are part of a
``Democratic smear job.''
First, these allegations did not originate with Democrats. These
women came forward with principle and courage, knowing they would face
abuse and lasting personal pain for doing so, but realizing they had an
obligation to the country, they did so anyway.
Dr. Ford came forward and shared her story voluntarily and on her own
initiative. She wasn't put up by a Democrat or Republican or anybody
else. It came from her heart. The idea that these allegations were
cooked up or instigated or encouraged by Democrats in Congress is
patently absurd and a real insult to the members of the Judiciary
Committee and the Members of this Chamber. It is against the spirit, if
not the letter, of our Senate rules.
Addressing the second part of McConnell's claim, that is even worse.
Democrats and Republican are always throwing charges at each other, but
the idea that this is a smear job--whatever you think of the veracity
of the allegations, it is shameful--shameful--to doubt the women's
sincerity. To say they are making it up and to discredit their sincere
testimony is nothing more than a partisan hit job.
For too long, people in positions of power have dismissed accounts
made by women before any evidence could be brought forward as
politically motivated or character assassination. We have come a long
way in this country, and we have to be better than that--better than
the low standard Senator McConnell has set.
At a minimum, we must respect these women and Judge Kavanaugh by
handling these allegations with the seriousness they deserve. Leader
McConnell owes an apology to Dr. Ford for labeling her allegations a
``smear job.'' Let me repeat that. Leader McConnell owes an apology to
Dr. Ford for labeling her allegations a ``smear job,'' and he should
apologize to her immediately.
It is galling--galling--for the Republican leader, who has done more
than maybe anyone else to politicize the Supreme Court nomination
process, to make these trumped-up, hyperbolic charges of partisanship
by Democrats.
It is a sad habit of Republicans to accuse the other side of doing
what they, in fact, are doing. It happens over and over. That seems to
be the case here, as Democrats have over and over urged the FBI to help
investigate these allegations, to get to the bottom of it, to get to
the truth, while Republicans block any investigation and plow right
through with their nominee.
It is simple. If Leader McConnell were truly concerned about these
allegations being swept up in partisanship, he would join us in calling
for an FBI background investigation, which can be performed quietly,
soberly, quickly, and effectively, without fuss, without muss, and
without any circus atmosphere. That is the way to get this done. The
only reason it hasn't happened is that both the President and Leader
McConnell have blocked it, as well as Senator Grassley. Don't they want
the truth? They say they do, but their actions belie that because they
will not even entertain a background check, which the FBI does over and
over, to find out the facts. I think they are afraid of the facts.
Why doesn't Judge Kavanaugh call for an FBI investigation? He went on
TV last night and said they are not true. If they are not true, he has
nothing to fear from an FBI background investigation, and he should
want it, no
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matter what Leader McConnell and President Trump say. Why doesn't he
call for it? Is he afraid of the facts?
So I challenge you, Leader McConnell. If you are so convinced this is
a smear campaign, you will have no problem with an FBI investigation to
prove your case. Come to the floor. Come now. Join me in asking the
White House to reopen the background check. Let's get the politics out
of it. Let's root out the facts. Let's get to the truth--no
histrionics, no smearing, no name-calling--as they said in Dragnet,
just the facts.
Labeling this a partisan smear job demeans not only the Senators in
my caucus, who I know are doing everything they can to treat these
allegations with caution and respect for both Dr. Ford and Judge
Kavanaugh, but it demeans many, many women who have come forward of
their own volition, knowingly inviting abuse, to share their stories.
They share them not because they simply want their stories to be told.
They want to prevent it from happening again and again and again in the
future. They want to protect their daughters and their granddaughters
from this kind of stuff, which, as we have seen in the last year or
two, has been all too real, all too frequent. They are doing a noble
thing. Then, to slander them by calling what Dr. Ford said a smear job
is outrageous, demeaning, wrong. Again, Leader McConnell should rethink
what he said in the heat of the moment and apologize to Dr. Ford.
So what is really going on here? Why are Republicans falsely claiming
that credible allegations are being made for political reasons? Because
their nominee to the Supreme Court, frankly, has a gigantic credibility
problem.
In his testimony before the Judiciary Committee, Judge Kavanaugh
misled the committee on numerous occasions regarding his involvement in
some of the ugliest controversies of the Bush administration, including
the Bush administration's policies on torture, the confirmation of some
deeply flawed judges, like William Pryor and Charles Pickering, and his
knowledge of the odious theft of Democratic email records by a
Republican staff member named Manny Miranda. In all of those, Judge
Kavanaugh did not come clean. He did not tell the truth and nothing but
the truth, but far, far from it.
Judge Kavanaugh was in the thick of all of those things as a top
political operative in the Bush White House and yet denied any
involvement. Here again, with these new allegations brought forward by
Dr. Ford and others, Judge Kavanaugh is again issuing blanket denials,
but the question looms: Is he credible? Is he credible?
He is opposed to having the FBI investigate, as is the majority
leader and as is President Trump. None of them want the facts to come
out. They just want to ``plow right through it.'' If not for the
courage of a handful of Republican Senators, we wouldn't have even had
the hearing. Leader McConnell and Senator Grassley did not want
hearings--even hearings, which they are now saying are fair and right.
But a few Republican Senators, to their credit, said: We have to have
hearings. At least let's hear this woman out.
I didn't hear them calling this a smear job, thank God. They said:
Let's get the facts.
Again, to repeat, the best way to get the facts is not to just plow
through it. It is to have the FBI do what they have always done when
new information comes up involving a nominee they may have already
checked out: Reopen the background check and check out these new facts.
It will not take long. It will be done quietly and in private, and then
the Judiciary Committee members, on both sides of the aisle, can learn
the same facts, done by an objective observer. That is all the American
people want.
The American people see what is going on. They are looking at Judge
Kavanaugh, and they are finding him less and less credible. That is why
his nomination is in deep trouble. Perhaps that is why, in poll after
poll, the plurality of Americans say Judge Kavanaugh should not be
confirmed.
Let us get the facts. Let us stop smearing women who have the courage
to come forward. Let's get to the bottom of this in a correct,
appropriate, and dignified way. That is what the American people want,
and that is what we should be doing in a bipartisan way in this
Chamber.
I yield the floor.
I suggest the absence of a quorum.
The ACTING PRESIDENT pro tempore. The clerk will call the roll.
The senior assistant legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. CORNYN. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for
the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Kyl). Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. CORNYN. Mr. President, I wanted to come to the floor and talk for
a few minutes about the unfortunate circumstances we find ourselves in
as a result of the failure of the Ranking Member of the Judiciary
Committee to submit a letter that she received from--in this case, we
now know--Dr. Ford to the background investigators, who are bipartisan,
who would have investigated this matter during the normal course of the
confirmation process in a way that protected the anonymity and
confidentiality of Dr. Ford, as well as the nominee.
As the Presiding Officer knows, having been a longtime member of the
Senate Judiciary Committee, frequently during the course of a
background investigation, we will learn things that Senators will want
to ask the nominee about, but some of them are so sensitive and,
frankly, some of them involve allegations we just don't know whether
there is any basis to them or not. So they are handled in a
particularly careful manner by the background investigators, and they
are not generally made available to Members of the Judiciary Committee
staff because they are so sensitive and potentially embarrassing.
Frankly, we just have to get to the bottom of them, but we want to do
so in a way that is respectful of both the person making the accusation
as well as the nominee.
Unfortunately, none of that happened here because we now know that
the ranking member, our friend Senator Feinstein, sat on this letter
for some 6 weeks. Then, after the hearing, after all the thousand-plus
questions for the record, after being able to examine not only the
nominee for 2 days--over a long period of time--having gone through an
FBI background investigation, as well as a bipartisan background
investigation by the Judiciary Committee staff, this letter comes out
in a way that, frankly, puts Dr. Ford in an uncomfortable position but
also has consequences in terms of the nominee.
Many of us saw last night Judge Kavanaugh talk about the impact of
this accusation that he denies ever occurring, its impact on his
children, on his marriage, and on his reputation. This is not something
any of us should welcome or take lightly, especially when there is an
alternative, which would have protected Dr. Ford and the nominee and
allowed us to get to the bottom of this accusation before it would ever
have the potential of becoming public.
I just don't buy this idea either that if you are a man, you are on
one side of this argument when it comes to accusations of sexual
misconduct, or if you are a woman, you are on the other side. All of us
have mothers. We all have fathers. Many of us have brothers and
sisters. Many of us are fortunate enough to have daughters, as I do. I
want to make sure my daughters, my wife, and my sister are treated with
the dignity and respect that they are entitled to were they to be so
unfortunate as to be caught up in a situation where they were a victim
of sexual misconduct by a man. Conversely, this idea that just because
you are a man, you are presumed to be guilty because somebody makes an
accusation without presenting any evidence to support that accusation
strikes me as being uniquely antithetical to our constitutional system
and our sense of what is fair play. I will talk about that more in just
a second.
I am very proud to support the nominee, Brett Kavanaugh, for the U.S.
Supreme Court. I have had the fortune to know him since about 2000. He
is an exceptional nominee by all respects. I, along with the majority
leader and others, think it is a disservice to him, as well as to our
courts, as well as to the Senate and the confirmation process for us to
sit idly by and allow our colleagues across the aisle to blow up the
normal process and to denigrate the reputation he has spent a career to
build--especially, without solid evidence.
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Again, we all feel sympathy--we should--for people who claim sexual
assault. We owe them an opportunity for a fair chance to tell their
story and to produce evidence, and we have recourse in our courts of
law and elsewhere when those sorts of serious accusations are made.
But we also need to consider both sides of the equation. We need to
consider the impact on the nominee--somebody who served more than 12
years as a judge on the DC Circuit Court of Appeals and, before that,
worked for the President of the United States in the White House
Counsel's Office. His public service required him to go through not one
FBI background check but six FBI background checks, and he passed all
of them with flying colors. Never before in any of those six background
checks has this accusation been lodged. Not once in his long career has
there been any allegation of improper conduct on the part of Judge
Kavanaugh toward women--not once--other than this allegation.
As I said, as we think about what a fair process is--and Judge
Kavanaugh talked about that last night--we need a fair process. We need
not to assume somebody is guilty because an allegation has been made.
Frankly, in the criminal law context, we wouldn't want to give the
government that much power to be able to deny us of our liberty, our
property, or even our life by just an accusation, without requiring
credible evidence to be presented in order to prove it before an
impartial jury or judge. This is a constitutional principle--a bedrock
constitutional principle--of our form of government.
It is very disturbing, and it is dangerous to hear some of our
colleagues try to turn that principle on its head and say it is up to
Judge Kavanaugh to disprove the allegations. He said it never happened.
How could he possibly disprove the allegation when he said it never
happened?
Well, that just shows the extent to which I think we have gotten off
track in this confirmation process. We have already heard an awful lot
about the judge. By all accounts, he is well qualified, according to
friends, mentors, law clerks, attorneys, and professors. Everybody who
testified about his nomination considered him to be a man of integrity,
and I believe that personally to be the fact.
So it ought to trouble all of us--notwithstanding this orderly,
respectful process by which the Judiciary Committee conducts background
investigations, including accusations like the one being made by Dr.
Ford--when that emerges at the eleventh hour. It makes no sense in
terms of what we know about the nominee. It doesn't fit the picture.
When something is alleged that is so completely out of character for
what we do know about the nominee, it ought to strain our credulity. I,
unlike some of our colleagues across the aisle, do not believe we
should rush to judgment and simply assume the worse.
Of course, the other attribute of a fair process would be an
impartial judge or somebody who hasn't already made up their mind. We
know that is not the case among our Democratic colleagues. The minority
leader said he would do everything in his power to stop the nominee
long before this accusation came up, and I believe none of the
Democrats on the Judiciary Committee would have supported the nominee
even before they knew about this allegation.
That is not a fair process. They are not a neutral observer or an
impartial arbiter of the facts. They are more than happy to embrace
thinly sourced allegations--even character assassinations--based on
shreds of evidence, if you can dignify it by calling it that.
But that is not an approach that I think we should support. It is
certainly not an approach I can support. I don't think it is a process
anybody in the Senate or any American should support. It is
shortsighted. It is narrowly focused and wrong.
I once told a friend that when the facts no longer make a difference
in an argument, I am going to look for a new line of work. But the
facts do matter, and these are the facts. Right now, we have one
primary allegation regarding Judge Kavanaugh, and then another one that
just popped up in the last day or so that I will talk about in a
moment. Americans are all too familiar now with the misconduct that one
person claims occurred more than 35 years ago. It is really hard to
reconstruct things that happened 35 years ago. I think we all know that
from our common experience.
I wonder if anybody within the sound of my voice could answer me:
What were you doing 35 years ago on a given day in a given month at a
given time? Could you reconstruct, in your own memory, what you were
doing at that time and on that date and where you were and who you were
with?
We also have to bear in mind that Judge Kavanaugh has said that this
alleged incident, simply, did not happen. He said so under penalty of
felony. In other words, if you lie to the FBI or if you lie to Congress
during the course of a background investigation or in testimony to
Congress, that is subject to a criminal penalty. Now, because Dr. Ford
didn't go through the normal background investigation, she has not had
to give evidence to the committee or to the Congress under that same
penalty of perjury. Judge Kavanaugh has, but she hasn't. Yet she will
have that chance this Thursday.
I firmly believe that a fair process means that both the accuser and
the accused should be required to provide information to the Congress--
to the Senate and to the Judiciary Committee--under the same
conditions. In other words, if one witness testifies under oath, then
both witnesses should testify under oath. If one witness is subject to
a penalty of perjury for lying, then both witnesses should be subject
to a penalty in the event of perjury for lying. That is another
attribute of the fair process that Judge Kavanaugh talked about last
night.
We can't ignore the fact that, so far, no one else has corroborated
Dr. Ford's statements and that she herself concedes she told no one
about this alleged incident, not even a friend or a family member,
until 2012 and, only then, without mentioning Brett Kavanaugh's name.
The Judiciary Committee's investigators, as you would want and expect,
have already been in touch with the four other people who Dr. Ford
claimed were involved in this incident, and all four have denied having
any knowledge of this event. That is a fact. You can't ignore it. You
shouldn't ignore it. That is something we ought to consider as part of
a fair process.
Nevertheless, we have really done everything we possibly can. We have
acceded to every reasonable demand that has been made by Dr. Ford and
her lawyers to give her the opportunity to be heard. We welcome her
testimony, and we will listen to her at the hearing that has been
scheduled for this Thursday. We welcome her participation, but we
insist on a fair process--a fair process to her and a fair process to
the nominee--one that allows her and Judge Kavanaugh to testify: to
explain, to justify, and to corroborate if they can. Again, one of the
hallmarks of a fair process is the presumption of innocence. This
presumption of guilt, based on an unproven accusation, is un-American.
It is absolutely foreign to who we are as a country and the sort of
process demanded under our Constitution for people who are accused of
serious misconduct.
So far, this process has been patently unfair both to Dr. Ford and to
Judge Kavanaugh because the ranking member sat on this letter for 6
weeks and didn't submit it through the regular background investigation
process that would have protected Dr. Ford and her confidentiality
while it was being pursued. Now, as a result of the way this was
handled by the ranking member, her letter, which she requested to
remain confidential, and her complaint, which she requested to remain
anonymous, was leaked to the press, and a media firestorm ensued. I am
confident this is not what Dr. Ford wanted when she sent that letter to
our ranking member on the Judiciary Committee.
It is important that Dr. Ford be given the chance to talk about what
she believes happened to her. We are in the middle of an important
national conversation about sexual assault and how certain people in
positions of power wield their influence to coerce and intimidate women
in the workplace and at large. This is a long overdue conversation, but
we can't let the pendulum swing so far as to deny the accused his or
her basic rights.
The Judiciary Committee, as I said, is no stranger to these sorts of
allegations as one of our own Members
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stepped down during this Congress after he acknowledged his own
misconduct. Yet, if, as Judge Kavanaugh says, the conduct in question
never occurred, he shouldn't be used as some sort of sacrificial lamb
on behalf of larger causes and concerns to which he is in no way
attached or implicated. That would be unjust. That would be the
opposite of fair. It would also establish a terrible precedent for
nominees in moving forward. We can't and we shouldn't let that happen.
I believe Chairman Grassley, the chairman of the Judiciary Committee,
has done an extraordinary job under very difficult circumstances. He
has been extraordinarily gracious in trying to accommodate Dr. Ford.
That is what we all have wanted even after her legal team has ignored
offers and deadlines over the course of the last week.
I have to be honest, though. Some of the tactics that have been waged
so far make me wonder whether Dr. Ford is still in control of her own
story and her own circumstances. It makes me wonder whether she is
being exploited by a political cause and whether her handlers and some
of her supporters truly have her interests at heart. I wonder this
particularly given that, after insisting this sensitive matter be
treated confidentially, the letter--in the possession of our colleagues
on the Democratic side on the Judiciary Committee--was leaked to the
media, and Dr. Ford was forced to go forward publicly. Remember that
the reason our friend, the ranking member from California, said she
withheld this allegation until the very last minute was to protect Dr.
Ford and to respect her request for anonymity. Yet that was then
trampled on, ignored, and her wishes betrayed when this letter was
leaked to the press.
Again, this is a particularly troubling matter, but one of our
colleagues on the other side of the aisle on the Judiciary Committee
has gone so far as to suggest that Judge Kavanaugh doesn't deserve the
presumption of innocence, that just because a 35-year-old allegation
was made, we must presume he is guilty. She said she believes that not
because of anything to do with his reputation for honesty or
truthfulness or anything about the facts; she said it is because of the
way he conducts his judging, the way he approaches cases.
This is an extraordinarily disturbing statement, and I think it
should be to all of us--this idea that he is denied what is a
constitutional right, when an accusation is made of a crime, because of
the way he performs his job as a judge, deciding cases. That ought to
disturb all of us. I hope our colleagues will approach Thursday's
hearing with more open minds than, apparently, she will.
As I mentioned a moment ago, it is true that now there is a second
allegation that has been reported against Judge Kavanaugh. It stems
from the New Yorker article that was published a couple of days ago,
but, obviously, it does not hold up to scrutiny. You don't have to take
my word for it. Just ask the New York Times. The New York Times looked
into it and conducted dozens of interviews. It tried to find anybody
who would corroborate this allegation, and it wouldn't touch it because
it couldn't get anybody else to say: Yes, that is what happened.
One journalist said on the air that Democrats sought out this second
woman and essentially convinced her to make an accusation against Judge
Kavanaugh. According to the story, no one the accuser knows has
corroborated her claim. That is why the New York Times wouldn't report
it. They interviewed several dozen people. They looked really hard. You
can imagine how hard those reporters looked to find somebody--anybody--
who would corroborate this allegation, but they couldn't find anybody.
What they found was that the accuser herself reportedly told others
that she was not sure if the perpetrator was actually Judge Kavanaugh.
She told others with whom she was talking about possibly corroborating
her accusation that she was not sure it was Judge Kavanaugh.
Now this information has been distributed to the press and around the
country in a way that really is extraordinarily shameful. I don't say
this often, but good for the New York Times. Thanks for upholding a
modicum of journalistic integrity by not reporting this uncorroborated
allegation in which the person who was making the accusation said: I
may have the wrong guy. Shame on the New Yorker and others who have
published this junk journalism.
As he said, Judge Kavanaugh is not going away. Despite the
allegations made against him, which he says are false and did not
happen, despite the smear campaign on his reputation as a person of
integrity, despite the threats made against him and his family, he said
he will not be intimidated into withdrawing, and he vowed to defend
both his integrity and his good name before the Judiciary Committee
this week.
As the delay tactics continue to play out and as the news stories
continue to pile up, let's not lose sight as to why Judge Kavanaugh was
nominated in the first place--his qualifications and the respect that
he enjoys from all of those who have interacted with him professionally
and personally. His work has been praised by legal practitioners and
scholars alike. He has been unanimously affirmed by the Supreme Court
on numerous occasions. During his grueling week-long confirmation
hearing, he showed the kind of poise and seriousness befitting of the
high office to which he has been nominated. He fielded many, many
questions from Republicans and Democrats, and he responded to all of
them truthfully, articulately, and graciously.
While it is easy to be distracted by the latest irresponsible,
unsubstantiated allegation, we need to put that in a larger context.
Surely, these allegations cannot be viewed in isolation nor can the
fact that our colleagues across the aisle previously questioned Amy
Coney Barrett for her Catholic faith. Judge Kavanaugh is a practicing
Catholic as well. Amy Coney Barrett, who had been nominated for the
Seventh Circuit, was actually told in the questioning of her Catholic
faith that the dogma lived loudly within her, which suggested somehow
that because she is a practicing Catholic, she could not be confirmed
to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit.
We don't have religious tests in this country. No matter what your
faith or background or absence of faith in a higher being, we should
not be attacking nominees for their religions or their faiths or their
lack of faith. We should be confirming good nominees who can apply the
law and the Constitution as written. Yet I think it is important to put
the Amy Coney Barrett questioning and statement in this context, given
the background and faith of this nominee.
We will try our best to get to the truth this week. We will listen
carefully, but we will remember all of the evidence, and then we will
vote on whether to confirm Brett Kavanaugh to the U.S. Supreme Court.
Our Democratic colleagues have dragged this out long enough. There
will be no more delays, and soon it will be the time to vote. I say to
my friends, we will hear from Dr. Ford. We have done our best to
accommodate her and to give her a safe place where she can tell her
story under oath to members of the Judiciary Committee who will be
voting on this nomination. Likewise, Judge Kavanaugh will be placed
under oath and give his testimony. Both of them will be subject to the
penalties for perjury, which is a routine requirement for everyone
giving testimony. We have to remember this has to be a fair process,
both to the accused and the accuser.
Some of the rhetoric, some of the statements I have heard about the
process have been anything other than fair to either one of them,
thanks to the fact that this letter was not disclosed earlier but then
dropped into the public view, notwithstanding the reluctance of Dr.
Ford to have her identity revealed.
So we are where we are. We have a job to do. Under the Constitution,
it is the Senate's responsibility to provide advice and consent on
nominations to the U.S. Supreme Court, and we are going to do that. We
are going to do that after hearing from Dr. Ford and after hearing from
Judge Kavanaugh, just as we have heard for days from Judge Kavanaugh
and other nominees following an extensive FBI background investigation
and investigation by the bipartisan professional staff on the Senate
Judiciary Committee. We are going to know everything that can be known
about the nominee and about this alleged incident that Judge
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Kavanaugh said never occurred 35-plus years ago.
I can't tell you where I was on any given day of the week 35 years
ago at a certain time of day. That is why our job is so difficult, but
we are going to do our very best, in fairness to Dr. Ford and Judge
Kavanaugh, to try to bring this matter to a fair conclusion.
I yield the floor.
I suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Lee).
The clerk will call the roll.
The senior assistant legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. THUNE. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for
the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.