[Congressional Record Volume 164, Number 80 (Wednesday, May 16, 2018)]
[House]
[Pages H4050-H4057]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
AGRICULTURE AND NUTRITION ACT OF 2018
The Committee resumed its sitting.
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The CHAIR. The gentleman from Minnesota is recognized.
Mr. PETERSON. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from
New Mexico (Ms. Michelle Lujan Grisham).
Ms. MICHELLE LUJAN GRISHAM of New Mexico. Mr. Chairman, I came to
Congress to solve problems and create economic opportunities for New
Mexico, which is still struggling with one of the highest unemployment
and poverty rates in the Nation.
Now, we had a chance in this farm bill to do just that, and I have
worked for years on an array of bipartisan initiatives in this bill,
including creating a first-ever broadband grant program to increase
internet access in rural communities; expediting the adoption of
innovative conservation and water management technologies; and finally
banning the heinous practice of lunch shaming.
Unfortunately, the bill the majority brought to the floor today not
only jeopardizes all of that bipartisan work, it also includes
provisions that will cause so much pain to so many people in my State.
This bill creates new restrictions on SNAP eligibility and a massive
unfunded mandate on State bureaucracies which will further destabilize
an already broken SNAP system in New Mexico.
I have spent years working to hold my State accountable for their
mismanagement of SNAP and for illegally denying thousands of
individuals their benefits. Under this bill, those mistakes will become
much more common. Millions of Americans will be needlessly kicked off
SNAP, and more children and families will go hungry.
Mr. Chairman, it may be politically expedient to bring this partisan
bill to the floor that destroys SNAP as we know it, but passing a
partisan bill that will undoubtedly die in the Senate does nothing for
the Americans who wait for Congress to do their jobs.
This bill is the perfect reflection of what is wrong with Washington:
that politics will always take priority over progress. I urge my
colleagues to recommit to the bipartisan collaborative work that is
desperately needed by farms, ranchers, and vulnerable Americans in
every single one of our districts. This is the only way we will pass a
farm bill and fulfill our commitment to the constituents we have a duty
to serve.
Mr. CONAWAY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
North Carolina (Mr. Rouzer).
Mr. ROUZER. Mr. Chairman, America's farm families have had to weather
a 5-year recession with depressed prices resulting in a 52-percent drop
in net farm income. Two-thirds of our farming operations today are in
economic trouble, and chapter 12 bankruptcies have risen by 33 percent
in just 2 years. So it is no secret that our Nation's farmers and
ranchers are struggling.
I hear all this talk during the past month about a free market, how
everything would be so much better without farm programs. ``We want a
complete, total free market,'' they say. From an intellectual and
philosophical standpoint, I would love that. We all would. But here is
the problem: that isn't the real world.
There is no free market when you have countries all around the world
subsidizing their agriculture production to the hilt. For example,
Communist China agreed to a subsidy limit as part of their accession to
the WTO in 2001. But what do they do? They exceed that subsidy limit by
$100 billion on just three crops alone in 1 year. That is no free
market.
Farm programs account for 0.24 percent of the total Federal budget,
and in return, every individual and family in this country is
guaranteed an abundant, affordable food supply, and the very best
nutritious food at an exceptionally affordable price. That is, quite
frankly, a huge return on a relatively small investment, not to mention
what agriculture means to our rural economies and our trade balance
with the rest of the world.
American agriculture is more than just being the best producers in
the business and feeding the world. It is about food security and
national security. Once a farm is gone, it isn't coming back. It is not
like your local hardware store that goes out of business; it is not
like that space isn't going to be replaced by another business; it
will. Farms, on the other hand, are replaced by developments taking
some of our very best farmland out of production.
The CHAIR. The time of the gentleman has expired.
Mr. CONAWAY. Mr. Chairman, I yield the gentleman from North Carolina
an additional 15 seconds.
Mr. ROUZER. Mr. Chairman, we have lost 44 million acres of farmland
during the past 30 years.
Mr. Chairman, passage of this farm bill is absolutely critical to the
livelihood and success of our farm families and food supply. I
encourage and hope that every one of us will vote for this bill.
This farm bill strengthens the farm safety net while making other
vital improvements to current law that will benefit our farm families,
rural communities, and animal agriculture sector--such as the
establishment of a new U.S.-only vaccine bank to prevent Foot-and-Mouth
disease, authorizing $1.1 billion to provide broadband service to
harder-to-serve rural areas, and providing the Secretary of Agriculture
with tools necessary to help combat the ongoing opioid crises which is
hitting rural America especially hard.
Additionally, this farm bill makes common sense changes to the
Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program to encourage work and provide
for job training.
The vast majority of Americans would agree that if you work you
should be better off than if you don't work. Under this bill, we simply
ask that those who are of working age and are perfectly capable, work
20 hours a week. And, if one can't find work we will pay for their job
training so that everyone can attain the skills necessary to get the
job they want.
The unfortunate reality is that we have too many SNAP recipients
stuck in the program with no pathway to upward mobility. Why? Because
current SNAP requirements are outdated and riddled with loopholes that
incentivize the status quo and fail to support those who need it most.
In fact, more than 2/3 of work-capable adults on SNAP are not currently
employed.
Today unemployment numbers are at 3.9 percent. In the year 2000, the
last time unemployment was this low, there were 17 million people on
SNAP. Today, we have more than 41 million people on SNAP yet the
unemployment is exactly the same. Mr. Speaker, if that doesn't
illustrate the problem, I don't know what does.
We must do better.
This farm bill puts this country on the path to do just that. It
makes much needed reforms to ensure that recipients of these benefits--
those who are perfectly capable of work--have a pathway to upward
mobility, can get good jobs, and ultimately use their God-given talents
to achieve a rewarding career.
Mr. PETERSON. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman
from New York (Mr. Crowley), who is the chairman of the House
Democratic Caucus.
Mr. CROWLEY. Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this
time.
We need to talk about what is really happening with this bill. Just
months after giving massive tax cuts to corporations and the wealthiest
individuals through their tax scam, Republicans are now penalizing the
most vulnerable among us by cutting one of the most proven and valuable
programs that ensures that kids, seniors, and working Americans don't
go hungry.
If my Republican colleagues looked at the facts, they would see that
SNAP--or food stamps--actually work. They would see that a worker is
more likely to keep a job if they can put food
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on the table and at the same time afford to commute to and from work;
that a child is likely to do better in school if they have a full
stomach to start the school day with; that calling struggling Americans
complacent and lazy doesn't help America's poverty crisis, but programs
like SNAP do help.
If they could see all that, then we wouldn't be here debating a
partisan bill that is bad for families, bad for farmers, and bad for
our country.
Mr. Chairman, the problem isn't food stamp recipients. The problem
isn't food stamps. The problem is those who claim they want to help
American families, and then do everything in their power to hurt them
by passing this partisan bill. I will not vote for it.
Mr. CONAWAY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from
Florida (Mr. Yoho), who is a valued member of the committee.
Mr. YOHO. Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman for yielding.
Only two times each decade do we in Congress have the privilege to
effect productive, meaningful change for America's farmers and
ranchers--those same citizens who help feed and clothe the entire
world.
Let us not forget that America's farmers and ranchers make up only 1
percent of our Nation's population, yet they make sure that dinner
tables across the country have food on them. In fact, one farm feeds
165 people in the U.S. and abroad. As such, U.S. farm policy is now a
target due to its own success.
Politically driven think tanks and antifarmer groups believe that
there is no longer a point to have a farm policy in the United States.
They fail to realize that America's farmers and ranchers do business
with foreign competitors who do not share the free market values our
country adopted at its founding, placing them at a disadvantage;
therefore, we have to properly equip our producers to compete with
countries that directly subsidize and own the means of production. It
is, indeed, an issue of national security.
The CHAIR. The time of the gentleman has expired.
Mr. CONAWAY. Mr. Chairman, I yield the gentleman from Florida an
additional 15 seconds.
Mr. YOHO. Support this farm bill. Defeat all antifarmer amendments
that hurt American farm families only to enrich multinational soda and
candy makers for more profits. Let us ensure the farmers and ranchers
of this great country continue to plant the seeds and raise the herds
that secure our national abundance, high quality, and least costly food
prices in the world and support the bill.
Mr. PETERSON. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from
Minnesota (Mr. Nolan).
Mr. NOLAN. Mr. Chairman, I would like to remind my colleagues of the
simple truth that process matters. If the process fails, the outcome
fails. That is exactly what has happened with this farm bill.
Instead of following regular order, as we have done in the past--and
I was there personally to be a part of it and witness it--by taking
this kind of legislation up through the subcommittees with open rules,
giving all the members an opportunity to offer their amendments and
their ideas and consider them and have the opportunity to write this
bill through the subcommittees, instead, it has come from behind closed
doors for the simple purpose of partisan positioning.
In fact, members of the committee weren't even allowed to see this
bill for weeks leading up to the consideration, nor were stakeholders
and affected parties given the opportunity to review and express their
thoughts. The result is a missed opportunity and an abandonment of a
bipartisan, collaborative tradition that has worked so well for the
farmers and the consumers in this country. It is a mean-spirited, bad
bill--the result of a failed process--and it should be defeated.
Mr. CONAWAY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from
Minnesota (Mr. Emmer).
Mr. EMMER. Mr. Chairman, in my home State of Minnesota, agriculture
is one of the primary drivers of our economy. Right now, farmers,
ranchers, and agricultural workers across the country are looking to
Congress for a strong farm bill that improves the farm safety net and
brings certainty to producers in uncertain times because life on the
farm isn't what it used to be.
Today, farmers are suffering some of the worst rates of suicide in
the country. General social isolation, downturn of the markets, low
farm income, regulatory strains, and a lack of treatment options all
make it hard for farmers to get the help they need.
That is why I introduced the STRESS Act to boost resources
specifically for farmers' mental health. With the support of Chairman
Conaway and the House Agriculture Committee, I am proud to see it
included in this year's farm bill.
Our farmers who feed the world are feeling the weight of the world on
their shoulders. It is time we get them the help and care they deserve.
Mr. PETERSON. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman from
Illinois (Mrs. Bustos).
Mrs. BUSTOS. Mr. Chairman, passing a farm bill that delivers a better
deal to our growers could have and should have been a bipartisan
process. But when Democrats arrived ready to work, the doors were
shackled shut. Instead of coming together to help our producers
struggling with a downturn in the agricultural economy, this
hyperpartisan bill hurts everyone from pasture to plate.
It cuts $23 billion from a program that feeds children, seniors, and
veterans in addition to eliminating mandatory funding for rural
development programs which are proven job creators in rural America.
This bill also strips farmers, who are facing tightening market
conditions, of crop insurance options.
This ``harm'' bill is another step in the wrong direction for rural
America. At a time when farmers are already feeling the pain of
President Trump's impulsive trade war and Secretary Pruitt's attack on
ethanol, I urge my colleagues: abandon this ``harm'' bill and work
together on a farm bill that will strengthen rural America.
Mr. CONAWAY. Mr. Chairman, may I inquire as to how much time remains
on each side.
The CHAIR. The gentleman from Texas has 14\3/4\ minutes remaining.
The gentleman from Minnesota has 18 minutes remaining.
Mr. CONAWAY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from
Georgia (Mr. Allen).
Mr. ALLEN. Mr. Chairman, I rise today to urge all of my colleagues to
join me in supporting H.R. 2, the Agriculture and Nutrition Act of
2018.
I have the great honor of representing Georgia's 12th District where
agriculture is the number one industry. As a member of the House
Agriculture Committee, my colleagues and I have worked diligently to
craft a farm bill that works for our farmers and provides them the
ability to provide a safe, secure, and economic food supply to this
Nation.
H.R. 2 improves the current farm safety net structure and offers
farmers the choice between PLC and ARC for each covered commodity under
title I to combat the downturn in the farm economy. It also makes
strides in getting Americans back to work by helping those on
Supplemental Nutrition Assistance.
I am the son of a farmer. I spent 35 years in the business community
creating jobs. The greatest joy of my life is to give folks the dignity
and respect they deserve to have a good job.
How could we deny folks this opportunity?
This bill gives them that opportunity.
Mr. Chairman, I urge my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to vote
``yes'' for this important bill. Our farmers and our people need us.
Mr. PETERSON. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from
Virginia (Mr. Scott), who is the ranking member of the Education and
Workforce Committee.
Mr. SCOTT of Virginia. Mr. Chairman, there is a lot wrong with this
bill, but as ranking member of the Committee on Education and the
Workforce, I am particularly concerned about its impact on students.
SNAP eligibility is tied to eligibility for other vital Federal
programs, so the proposed cuts in SNAP eligibility will also cut access
to free school meals for 265,000 children.
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Research has consistently shown that students struggling with hunger
have
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lower grades, are less able to focus, and more likely to miss school.
This bill would undermine the ability of hundreds of thousands of
students to reach their full potential by cutting SNAP benefits for the
family and reducing school benefits for children.
In the wake of a $1.5 trillion tax cut for corporations in the top 1
percent, it is a shameful statement of priorities when you try to pay
for these tax cuts by reducing food assistance programs for low-income
students.
I urge my colleagues to vote ``no.''
Mr. CONAWAY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman from
Alabama (Mrs. Roby).
Mrs. ROBY. Mr. Chair, I rise today to offer my strongest support for
H.R. 2, the Agriculture and Nutrition Act of 2018, commonly known as
the farm bill.
I am proud to serve Alabama's Second District, where agriculture is
the largest employer, responsible for more than 93,000 jobs and more
than $11 billion in economic impact.
So, Mr. Chair, I know how critically important it is that Congress
deliver agricultural policy that actually works for the farmers
throughout Alabama, and our country, and makes their important work
easier, not harder.
That is why I am proud the new farm bill addresses many of the
challenges farmers face every day, including streamlining and reducing
burdensome Federal pesticide regulations, creating a program to address
our Nation's feral hog problem, and strengthening the existing crop
insurance program.
In addition to this, the new farm bill makes several needed
improvements to our country's nutrition assistance program by
implementing strict work requirements and closing loopholes that allow
for abuses of the system.
I am proud that the new farm bill maintains vital nutrition for our
most vulnerable Americans when they truly need it, while making a
commitment to helping these individuals improve their circumstances.
I support the legislation.
Mr. Chair, I have always believed that we should incentivize able-
bodied Americans to work instead of encourage them to remain dependent
on the government, so I'm proud that the new farm bill reflects our
conservative principles.
I am pleased that this legislation provides a commitment to our
nation's farmers while taking important steps towards reforming our
food stamps program.
I will continue to advocate for policies that give fair treatment to
our Alabama commodities like cotton, peanuts, timber, poultry,
soybeans, and catfish. I'm eager to cast my vote in favor of the new
farm bill, and I urge my colleagues to do the same.
Mr. PETERSON. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman from
New Hampshire (Ms. Kuster).
Ms. KUSTER of New Hampshire. Mr. Chairman, I rise today in opposition
to H.R. 2 and to express my profound disappointment in the process that
has led us to where we are today.
As the first New Hampshire Representative to serve on the Agriculture
Committee in decades, I am humbled by the responsibility to fight for
New Hampshire's small family farms.
When we last considered the farm bill in 2014, I supported the
legislation because, while not perfect, that bill provided long-term
certitude to our Nation's farmers and represented a compromise between
Republicans and Democrats.
The farm bill has always been a bipartisan piece of legislation, but
the bill we vote on this week represents a complete departure from that
bipartisan process. Democrats were pushed away from the negotiating
table by an extreme ideological agenda that would increase food
insecurity for millions of Americans, slash mandatory spending on
critical rural development and conservation programs, and lead to
265,000 children losing access to free and reduced school lunch.
Mr. CONAWAY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Georgia (Mr. Austin Scott), the chairman of the Subcommittee on
Commodity Exchanges, Energy, and Credit.
Mr. AUSTIN SCOTT of Georgia. Mr. Chairman, I rise today to urge
support for H.R. 2, the Agriculture and Nutrition Act of 2018, also
known as the farm bill.
Rural America needs our support. Farm income has fallen approximately
50 percent since 2013. That is one of the steepest drops since the
Great Depression. The costs of production have steadily declined, while
commodity prices have fallen. Unfair trade practices, like the dumping
of specialty crops into our markets from Mexico, are hurting our U.S.
producers. The digital divide caused by inadequate or a lack of
broadband services has held back innovation, job growth, and education
in rural America. Crises like the opioid epidemic have stricken rural
communities across America, just as it has our cities.
Mr. Chairman, the farm bill addresses all of these challenges while
also taking the first major step in this Congress toward the
President's vision of meaningful welfare reform. This is our
opportunity to provide the needed certainty and support for our farmers
and producers, while also providing commonsense reforms that will
support the President's agenda of achieving prosperity in our rural
communities. Passing a strong farm bill on time is key to this goal.
I ask that my colleagues join me in supporting this important piece
of legislation and oppose those amendments that will hamper its ability
to aid rural America and keep our producers feeding not only America,
but the world. This bill provides certainty to one of America's largest
job sectors, while also standing for our conservative principles.
Mr. Chair, I ask that my colleagues join me in support of H.R. 2, the
Agriculture and Nutrition Act of 2018, the farm bill.
Mr. PETERSON. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from
Arizona (Mr. Grijalva), the ranking member of the Natural Resources
Committee.
Mr. GRIJALVA. Mr. Chair, I oppose the farm bill. It would hurt low-
and middle-income families, take breakfast and lunch from children
across this country, and fail hardworking farmers.
It also undermines one of the Nation's most successful and popular
conservation laws, the Endangered Species Act, by removing the
requirement for EPA to consult with expert wildlife agencies on the
impact of pesticides to imperiled wildlife.
Pesticides are known to have been the cause of the dramatic decline
of many species and a threat to public health. It should not be
dispensed with in this legislation.
The provisions in this legislation that are anti-environment, anti-
public health, anti-nutrition, and anti-working families are cause for
opposition. I urge a ``no'' vote.
Mr. CONAWAY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Arkansas (Mr. Crawford), the chairman of the General Farm Commodities
and Risk Management Subcommittee.
Mr. CRAWFORD. Mr. Chair, I thank the chairman for his leadership on
this issue.
Let me start by saying that it is not very often that we talk about
agriculture in the context of national security. I believe it is next
week we are going to be taking up the NDAA reauthorization. While that
is very important to our national security, I think it is equally
important to consider how vital our agriculture producers are to our
national security. A country that can't feed itself is a country that
is not secure. It is inviting danger and peril. All you have to do is
look around the globe and see those nations that are in that situation.
Most notably in our hemisphere, Venezuela can't feed themselves. You
can see the turmoil that has ensued as a result.
But there are other countries around the world. One of the big ones
that we don't talk about very often and, quite frankly, we should, and
that is China can't feed themselves. They have 1.4 billion people.
What we should be doing is taking every effort during this debate to
thank farmers across the country for what they do and for the security
they provide to this Nation, recognizing that, without them, the
nutrition programs that we are fighting over couldn't exist.
Let's get a little different perspective, if we can, and recognize
that, first and foremost, we have got to have the food produced, not
only to provide a level of security in this Nation, but to be able to
feed the 300 million-plus that call this country home.
Second, we have to be about trying to secure that food source and
making sure that farmers are in a competitive marketplace that gives
them equal opportunities to sell their commodities.
Certainly, the nutrition part of this is paramount. But I think most
Americans across the country--and I think
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there are polls that bear this out--some 75 percent of Americans say,
yes, we probably should encourage folks to work and/or get educated as
a component of receiving nutrition benefits. That is all we are saying.
We are not trying to compromise anyone's nutrition or threaten a single
calorie.
One thing I think we need to clarify, too, is the Agriculture
Committee has no jurisdiction over school nutrition programs.
Mr. PETERSON. Mr. Chairman, I just remind the gentleman that the
nutrition program is permanently authorized. It doesn't even need to be
in this bill.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentlewoman from North
Carolina (Ms. Adams).
Ms. ADAMS. Mr. Chair, I want to thank the gentleman for yielding.
Mr. Chair, I rise today to voice my strong opposition to the 2018
Republican farm bill.
As a member of the House Committee on Agriculture, I have
participated in countless hearings about the needs of our Nation's
farmers and families that depend on SNAP to fight hunger.
Tragically, this bill doesn't reflect any of that testimony. It is a
shortsighted, partisan bill that will have a detrimental impact on
communities like mine. I cannot support it.
In my home county of Mecklenburg, North Carolina, more than 55,000
households depend on SNAP to eat every day. This bill would rob them of
access to quality nutrition programs. In North Carolina, it is
estimated that more than 133,000 people will lose their SNAP benefits
if this bill passes, including over 51,000 children. Nationwide, 2
million people would be kicked off the program and an estimated 265,000
children would lose access to free or reduced meals at school. No
eating at home. No eating at school.
Adding new work requirements through an unfunded, untested mandate
will bankrupt States and force more needy people out of the program.
Let's scrap this flawed partisan farm bill and let's work together in
regular order to draft a bill that helps America's farmers and families
who depend on nutrition assistance.
Mr. Chair, I include in the Record a letter from Mecklenburg County,
North Carolina, opposing H.R. 2 because of the detrimental effects and
impact that it will have on our children and families there.
Mecklenburg County,
Charlotte, North Carolina, April 17, 2018.
Congresswoman Alma Adams,
House of Representatives,
Washington, DC.
Dear Congresswoman Alma Adams: As you mark-up of the Farm
Bill reauthorization, H.R. 2 this week, I write to you in
support of the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program
(SNAP) funding, formerly known as Food Stamps, which has
historically made up a significant part of this legislation.
This vital program offers nutrition assistance to millions of
eligible, low-income individuals and families and provides
economic benefits to communities. In total, more than 40
million low-income people depend upon this program to keep
their families fed.
The Agriculture and Nutrition Act of 2018 (H.R. 2) is the
legislative vehicle for reauthorizing and reforming the
programs of the Department of Agriculture through fiscal year
2023. The last enacted Farm Bill (PL 113-79) is set to expire
on September 30. The proposed reauthorization bill is
scheduled for markup with the House Agriculture Committee
this Wednesday, April 18. It contains several provisions and
budget cuts that are troubling and could detrimentally impact
our community.
The bill includes provisions that expand work requirements
and punish the least fortunate members of our community who
are often times unable to find employment. Specifically, the
bill makes it mandatory that recipients of SNAP, who are
able-bodied adults, ages 18 to 59, are either employed or are
participating in state-run employment or job-training
programs. Participants could be denied benefits for not
meeting the new work requirements. The first suspension of
benefits would be for 12 months, while a second suspension of
benefits would be up to 36 months. Under current law, the
SNAP program already has work requirements for able-bodied
adults aged 18 to 49. Additionally, the new Farm Bill would
include spending cuts, which would make fewer people eligible
for benefits and directly harm working-poor families.
Mecklenburg County has real concern that these proposed
changes in H.R. 2 would negatively impact some of our poorest
citizens and cause serious difficulties for our community's
most vulnerable populations.
Mecklenburg has 55,472 households that rely on SNAP to help
provide sustenance. The County also has specific concerns
with language in H.R. 2 that reduces spending by $5 billion
over 10 years through the ending of a broad-based categorical
eligibility that allows states to consider working poor
beneficiaries with higher incomes that put them above 130
percent of the federal poverty level.
We look forward to working with you on this important
effort. Please feel free to contact me if you have any
questions.
Sincerely,
Dena R. Diorio,
Mecklenburg County Manager.
Mr. CONAWAY. Mr. Chairman, how much time is remaining on each side.
The CHAIR. The gentleman from Texas has 9 minutes remaining. The
gentleman from Minnesota has 13\1/4\ minutes remaining.
Mr. CONAWAY. Mr. Chair, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. PETERSON. Mr. Chair, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from
Arizona (Mr. O'Halleran), a member of the committee.
Mr. O'HALLERAN. Mr. Chairman, I rise to express my strong opposition
to H.R. 2. Some may call this a farm bill, but for my district, this is
a ``harm'' bill.
Unfortunately, this year's farm bill is deeply flawed. This bill
lacks a significant commitment to the needs of rural communities, with
no guaranteed funding for the rural development title.
It is unclear to me how members of the committee say they understand
the need of investment in rural America, but decided to cut $517
million from rural development programs.
As we work to help communities build stronger economies, we must
ensure that we have a plan in place that lends a helping hand to those
who need it. In Arizona, this bill will take food out of the mouths of
tens of thousands of children and veterans. It is a sad day in America
when we are debating a proposal that would make children go hungry.
I hope for a robust debate on how we could promote rural economic
development and how to improve the business climate for rural
communities and work to address resource concerns by improving
conservation programs like EQIP.
Sadly, this bill was written in a back room and kept secret until the
last possible moment. We owe the American people something better.
Mr. CONAWAY. Mr. Chairman, I continue to reserve the balance of my
time.
Mr. PETERSON. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman from
California (Ms. Lee).
Ms. LEE. Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman for yielding, but also
for his tremendous leadership on this bill and so many other issues.
I rise in strong opposition to this disastrous farm bill. This bill
cuts the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program by $23 billion,
taking food out of the mouths of 2 million Americans. Over 265,000
children will lose benefits.
Why in the world do congressional Republicans want more Americans to
go hungry?
This is immoral and it is wrong.
These so-called work requirements won't help anyone work. They punish
struggling families who are not getting enough hours at work or decent
wages to help feed their families.
Nutrition assistance helps 40 million people put food on the table.
More than 80 percent of SNAP households work the year before or after
receiving aid. The majority of people receiving SNAP benefits are
children, disabled, and seniors.
When I was young, I was a single mom raising two little boys. I
relied on food stamps to help my family during a very difficult time in
my life. It was a bridge over troubled waters. I want families to have
this bridge over troubled waters now.
I urge my colleagues to vote ``no.''
Mr. CONAWAY. Mr. Chairman, I would like to clarify the Record.
Of the 265,000 children that have been mentioned a couple of times,
95 percent of them would in fact maintain access to reduced lunch
prices because their families make too much money to qualify for the
free lunch, but 5 percent of that 265,000 would in fact maintain the
free lunch program as it currently exists.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Illinois (Mr.
Rodney Davis), chairman of the Subcommittee on Biotechnology,
Horticulture, and Research.
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Mr. RODNEY DAVIS of Illinois. Mr. Chairman, I have a district that
relies on a strong farm bill. Illinois is a leading producer of
soybeans, corn, and swine. Our economy relies on a farm bill that
supports agriculture. Although we all eat, I realize there are many
districts whose Members may not be as enthusiastic as I am about the
farm bill. That is why there is something in this bill for every
district.
For those concerned about the deficit, I have good news. The last
farm bill was the single largest cut in mandatory spending that we made
in the entire 113th Congress. We built on these sound policy reforms in
this bill.
If you are a Member who wants to address the cycle of poverty that
too many of our constituents are trapped in, this bill is for you. H.R.
2 reforms the system and invests historic amounts in workforce
training.
Despite our growing economy, we have 9 million more people on SNAP
today than we did at the height of the recession when jobs were scarce
and unemployment was in the double digits. This isn't progress. This
isn't helping to end the cycle of poverty.
In my home State of Illinois, 67 percent of work-capable adults on
SNAP are without work. A long recession left Americans disheartened,
people dropping out of the labor force because they lost their job and,
after months and months of searching, couldn't find another one. H.R. 2
makes investments to give many of those same people hope in finding a
job again.
Four years ago I was a freshman, and the farm bill was my first
opportunity to be part of a conference committee and see firsthand our
democracy at work, Democrats and Republicans sparring over policy
differences. But at least there was a debate. I am incredibly
disappointed by my friends on the other side of the aisle who didn't
offer any amendments in committee.
Work requirements are not new. They were done in 1996 by a
Republican-led Congress and Democratic President during a similar time
of economic growth.
When do the politics end and the serious policy discussions begin?
Let's put politics aside, pass this important bill for our farmers,
for our taxpayers, and for too many Americans trapped in poverty. Let's
show the American people we can govern together.
Mr. PETERSON. Mr. Chairman, I am pleased to yield 1 minute to the
gentlewoman from California (Ms. Pelosi), the leader of the Democratic
Caucus.
Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Chair, I thank the gentleman for yielding, and I
especially thank him for his exceptional leadership over the years to
honor the historic collaboration that has always existed in our country
between urban and rural America that is in all of our interests that
our farm countries succeed, and that is in all of our interests that
the American people are not food insecure. So I thank you, Mr. Ranking
Member, for your outstanding leadership on behalf of America's farmers
and hungry families.
Mr. Chair, this bill is just a mystery to me because we have tried so
hard over the years to work in a bipartisan way, to come together to
write a farm bill that does honor that historic collaboration--urban,
rural--meeting the nutritional needs of the American people, and
encouraging the economic growth in farm country. This legislation does
not do that, and I have some questions as to why.
Some of the questions came to mind last week when I was on a farm in
Iowa listening to hardworking men and women talk about their challenges
with this farm bill: that it does not bolster or preserve the farmer
safety net; that the bill reduces investments in agriculture research,
conservation, and rural development; and that it cuts nutrition
assistance that so many there, even in farm country, and in our country
rely upon.
When I was in Iowa, as I said, last week, I had the privilege of
meeting a wonderful woman named Julia Slocum. Julia works two jobs. She
is a third-generation farmer and a part-time librarian. Over the years,
she has relied on the lifeline of SNAP to put food on the table during
difficult times, a farmer relying on SNAP to put food on the table.
I challenge House Republicans to explain to Julia why they are
abandoning hardworking people like her, abandoning her twice by gutting
the farmer safety net and by cutting SNAP.
This bad bill steals food off the tables of children, seniors,
students. 1.5 million of our veterans rely on the nutrition provision
of this bill.
It is not just our veterans. That would be reason alone to be
concerned, 1.5 million. But 23,000 of the families of Active-Duty
servicemembers need to have food stamps because they are food
insecure--and they are hurt by this legislation--individuals with
disabilities, working families, our seniors, students, children.
Children.
Democrats have always supported work initiatives for those who can
work. Let's be clear: This is not a jobs bill. SNAP returns money to
farmers, to our economy, and to the Treasury, creating $1.79 for every
$1 in benefits, and supports more than 560,000 jobs across the country,
including 50,000 in agriculture.
Republicans are contending that they are investing in jobs. They are
not investing in jobs. They are creating a bureaucracy and ignoring
initiatives already in place to measure what really works in relating
food to jobs. And they are wasting billions on new bureaucracies that
would take decades to implement and that would increase hunger and
poverty across the country.
It is no wonder that so many faith-based groups across the country
view this bill as one that does not reflect the values of America.
Again and again, Republicans try to ransack the lifelines of working
families to pay for handouts and to enrich the already wealthy. This
bill abandons America's farmers when they are in a tough spot.
The farm economy is struggling. As you know, farm prices are
plummeting. More and more families are in danger of losing the farm,
and that was before the Trump tariffs invited retaliation from China.
Yet Republicans are creating a self-inflicted crisis farming
communities can't afford and they can't control.
I challenge House Republicans to explain to farmers and ranchers why
they propose a bill that weakens the farmer safety net when we should
be protecting family farmers--soybean, corn, wheat, pork, and specialty
crop growers--from self-inflicted damage of Trump's trade brinkmanship.
Explain why this bill slashes hundreds of millions from rural
development initiatives, cuts small business loan guarantees, and adds
new layers of bureaucracy to high-speed broadband grants when we should
be investing in self-sufficiency for small towns.
Explain, my Republican colleagues, why this bill eliminates funding
for on-farm energy initiatives and biofuels when we should be embracing
the American farmer's role in making America sustainable and energy
independent.
Explain, my colleagues, why this bill creates new loopholes for
millionaires, multimillionaires, and billionaires to receive farm
subsidies when we should be investing in the next generation of farmers
and ranchers.
For the sake of our children, families, and hardworking Americans
such as Julia, for our veterans, for our servicemen and -women,
Americans with disabilities, we must return to the table and craft a
balanced, robust, bipartisan farm bill as we have done in the past and
the distinguished chairman of the Committee on Agriculture knows is
possible.
We must return to the historic, decades-long bipartisan solution that
weds our farmers and our hungry families together. Republicans must put
aside politics and honor our responsibilities to 16 million men and
women of agriculture and the nearly 41 million Americans who are food
insecure. That is why I urge a ``no'' on this dangerous bill.
Mr. CONAWAY. Mr. Chair, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. PETERSON. Mr. Chairman, I am pleased to yield 1 minute to the
gentleman from California (Mr. Panetta).
Mr. PANETTA. Mr. Chair, as I have told you, it is an absolute honor
to serve on the Committee on Agriculture, under the leadership of the
chairman as well as the ranking member. There is no doubt about that.
But I mainly say that based on the work that this committee does, the
work that this committee does to serve those in agriculture and what
that
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service can do for the backbone industry of our country.
However, as a Representative on this committee and as a
Representative of the salad bowl of the world on the central coast of
California, my country and, yes, my community expected more out of this
farm bill.
Look, in my area, with its flourishing specialty crop industry, we
wanted more funding for the specialty crop research initiative. Because
of our specialty crops, we have a labor shortage because of the people
who are needed to pick those crops. Therefore, we needed stronger
language in the bill for mechanization to help with our labor issues
and to bridge that gap from the Salinas Valley into the Silicon Valley.
With our burgeoning organic industry, we needed more funding and less
cuts for the Organic Certification Cost Share Program so that we can
properly invest in beginning producers.
In addition to this, the majority is trying to implement an untested
and unproven change to title IV of the SNAP provision. Such a change
threatens to remove over a million people from the program and deeply
affects the 74,000 people who are recipients of SNAP living and working
in my community.
We can do better by our farmers. We can do better by the families
across our country by getting back to our bipartisan roots. That is how
we help our agriculture. That is how we help our country.
Mr. CONAWAY. Mr. Chair, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Iowa
(Mr. Young).
Mr. YOUNG of Iowa. Mr. Chair, I rise today in support of H.R. 2, the
Agriculture and Nutrition Act of 2018. Included in this great bill are
two bills I introduced: the WATER Act and the STRESS Act, which was
introduced with other colleagues as well.
The WATER Act improves water quality by easing access to the
Conservation Innovation Grant program and reducing red tape. Iowans
expect and deserve clean water, and this bill will help do that.
The STRESS Act will help address the farmer suicide crisis gripping
our Nation. By opening the Farm and Ranch Stress Assistance Network,
farmers facing tough times can get the help that they need. Our farmers
feed, fuel, and sustain the world. It is only right we take steps to
help them.
I was also pleased--and I thank the chairman--that in the farm bill
there are positive steps to address the food waste that is out there in
our country. Our country wastes 40 percent of our food supply. As a
cofounder of the Food Waste Caucus, I am committed to reducing food
waste to combat hunger, as well as are many of my colleagues.
Mr. Chair, I thank Chairman Conaway as well for his leadership by
putting in the bill the Food Loss and Waste Reduction Liaison at the
USDA so we can take another step to reduce food waste by 50 percent by
2030.
I urge my colleagues to support this bill.
Mr. PETERSON. Mr. Chair, may I inquire how much time we have on our
side.
The CHAIR. The gentleman from Minnesota has 9\1/4\ minutes remaining.
The gentleman from Texas has 5\1/2\ minutes remaining.
Mr. PETERSON. Mr. Chair, I am pleased to yield 3 minutes to the
gentlewoman from Delaware (Ms. Blunt Rochester).
Ms. BLUNT ROCHESTER. Mr. Chairman, it is with deep disappointment
that I stand in opposition to the partisan farm bill. I joined the
House Committee on Agriculture because of its reputation of being
bipartisan. I represent an entire State--urban, rural, and suburban.
The farm bill is vital. That is why I was so disappointed to see this
breakdown.
The goal of creating a thriving economy and moving people out of
poverty is a goal we all share, and throughout my career I have worked
to connect people with jobs. As Delaware's former secretary of labor
and deputy secretary of health and social services, I have overseen
both workforce development and economic safety net programs.
I believe in work. We believe in work. However, the majority's
proposal would essentially force individuals off SNAP to pay for an
unproven, untested, severely underfunded program.
What happens if your child gets sick or your car breaks down? Should
that mean you and your child go hungry for up to a year if you are
sanctioned?
What makes this even more troubling is that the 10 pilot programs
designed to give us best practices in providing employment and training
services to SNAP recipients, one of which is in my home State of
Delaware, have not been completed or evaluated and won't be until at
least 2019.
Why are we putting the cart before the horse? If the majority is
really concerned with getting the policy right, why not wait until we
have the evidence and the data to make good use of taxpayer dollars?
To understand the impact on Delaware, I traveled across my State and
met with farmers, emergency food providers, supermarket owners, and
State agencies. But the conversation that surprised me the most was one
I had recently with a father. He shared how, years ago, SNAP and public
housing allowed him and his wife to raise three healthy daughters.
Because of support, he was the first in his family to graduate from
high school and college and, ultimately, to move out of poverty.
He paid that debt back in multiple ways through service. He went on
to become a social worker, a school administrator, and, subsequently,
was elected city council president.
The value of service was then passed down. One daughter went to work
in the White House and is now a professor of social work at Rutgers
University. The second daughter became an engineer and worked for the
U.S. Army, protecting our troops. And his oldest daughter grew up to be
a Congresswoman. That dad is my dad.
Colleagues, we still have a chance to go back to the drawing board.
The hopes, the dreams, the aspirations of 42 million people are in our
hands. Let's not let them down.
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Mr. CONAWAY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Oklahoma (Mr. Lucas), the former chairman of the committee.
Mr. LUCAS. Mr. Chairman, it is hard to believe, but almost 5 years
ago, Collin, Mike, we were on the floor of this very Chamber when we
took up the previous farm bill, a farm bill that was well crafted and
well intended. And on that day, if you remember, folks of good
principle on both extremes of the perspective together managed to bring
the bill down.
Now, why do I bring that up? Because I simply want to remind all my
colleagues, no farm bill is ever simple. They are all hard.
Circumstances change from cycle to cycle, crop to crop, but it is
always hard to do a farm bill.
So why are we here? Why do we keep going through this process?
Because, ultimately, we need to pass a comprehensive piece of
legislation that will make sure we have the ability to raise the food
and fiber that our neighbors need; that we can sell into the world
markets to meet their needs; and, yes, that we provide the ability,
through this same piece of legislation, so that our neighbors, who,
through tough times, through, most often, circumstances beyond their
control, have the ability to access enough of that food to meet their
needs.
So, yes, we have to have a farm bill. We have to have a farm bill. I
would say to all my colleagues, this is a step in the long march to
ultimately creating a final document that involves the other body and
requires a signature by the Chief Executive of this country.
Let's debate and argue and fight out amendments tonight and tomorrow
and the next day. Let's avoid what happened 5 years ago by doing things
that would try to kill the process. Let's keep the process moving
forward. Let's refine. Let's perfect. Let's pass a comprehensive farm
bill so the people who feed and clothe us have the ability to do it, so
those who need help in receiving the resources they need have the
ability to do it.
We have no less option: Good faith. Do what you need to do, but let's
get it done. There are people depending on us everywhere and around the
world today.
Mr. PETERSON. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, as I spoke earlier on the drawbacks of H.R. 2, I may
not have mentioned, before I reserved, that I am very frustrated by the
breakdown in this process that has got us to where we are.
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Now, Mr. Lucas is right, we do have to have a farm bill, but let's
understand what we need to do that actually is required. Title 1 needs
a farm bill. Title 2 needs a farm bill. Other titles need a farm bill
because they are only authorized for 5 years.
SNAP is permanently authorized. If we didn't do anything, SNAP would
go on like it is. Crop insurance is permanently authorized. If we
didn't do anything, crop insurance would go on just like it is. So the
part of the bill that we are worried about are these other parts that
will expire on the end of September 30.
Now, what happens if we don't get it done? We go back to permanent
law. Some of my constituents think that is a good idea because it goes
back to 100 percent of parity. Most people in America probably know
what I am talking about when I talk about 100 percent of parity, but a
lot of old timers in my district know very much what that is. And, you
know, it is $9 corn. They would love to have $9 corn.
So the permanent law is not an option. So we need to get something
done. But my point is that we don't need to do some of the things that
we are doing in these areas that are not required to do anything
because they are permanently authorized.
So, as I speak today, you know, I refused to give legitimacy to what
has been, in my view, an illegitimate process. The chairman said we
tried to work on a bipartisan basis. You know, we didn't raise any
issues at the time because he said he didn't have any money and we were
going along with the system. And that is till we got into the situation
where this SNAP stuff came forward, you know, and I told you this was
not going to fly in our caucus. And you can see over here the feelings
that you have engendered with this proposal, you know, and it is
breaking apart what we have had here in this country for a long time.
I have been here for four farm bills. I have been here as a member,
as a chairman, and as a ranking member. Now, as Frank said, each of
these bills has had their share of headaches, and they have all, at the
end of the day, though, had more common ground than opposition. And in
the end, the Agriculture Committee has always produced a product that
we could be proud of because we knew we delivered the best deal
possible, given the circumstances that we were dealing with.
We have always been able to work together for the mutual benefit of
farmers, rural advocates, and consumers. Prior to my time here, Senator
Dole and McGovern carried the medal--Hubert Humphrey from my State,
George Aiken before that. These weren't ideologues, but they weren't
pushovers either. Each knew where their party stood. Each also knew the
value making sure the length between people who grow the food and the
people who buy food and make sure that that link was strong.
So let me be as clear as I can be. In my opinion, breaking up that
coalition, ruining a partnership that predates all of us is a huge
mistake. More than that, the closed- and one-sided nature of this
process that we have been through is something that I have to call out.
It does not bode well for farm and food legislation to come.
No party can do this alone. It is too big of a job. So, as ranking
member on the House Agriculture Committee, I want you to know that I am
willing to come back to the table but only when the majority has the
ability to sit down and figure this out together.
I was told on this SNAP stuff by the chairman that he could not
negotiate it--it was nonnegotiable. That is what got us into this
problem. So, when we get to the point where we can actually start
talking about negotiation, I am willing to come back to the table and
try to get back to a bipartisan situation.
Folks want to do welfare reform. I was there in 1996. I was part of
the deal at that time. It should be done as a comprehensive review of
all of the programs, not just the farm bill.
I just think it is a huge mistake for us to be trying to tell people
that, somehow or another, putting work requirements and these other
things into the farm bill is going to overhaul the welfare system. That
is just not true. Most people don't get enough money out of the Food
Stamp program to make a difference one way or the other. It is not food
stamps that are causing people to be on welfare. It is not food stamps
that are causing people not to work, you know, and that is my big
objection to this.
It is just ideology run amuck, and it is screwing up the process
here, and I hope that we don't do so much damage that we can't pull
this back together at the end of the day and get this done.
So I am going to vote against H.R. 2, and I urge all my colleagues to
do as well, and I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. CONAWAY. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, I, too, am saddened by the loss of the bipartisan work
that we have typically done on this committee. I have bragged about
being one of the few bipartisan committees in Congress back home a lot,
and it is sad.
Just as the ranking member just said, that his side refused to
negotiate any changes to SNAP, I simply said: Work requirements--
strengthening the work requirements is going to have to be a part of
what we do. And that was where we are with respect to that.
What I heard over and over and over again on the other side is that
the non-SNAP portions of the farm bill, while maybe less than they
would like to have, are nevertheless essential and vital, and I am
looking forward to my colleagues on the other side of the aisle working
as diligently as they can to defeat all of those poison pill amendments
that will have to be offered over the next several days so that we can
maintain that safety net for production in agriculture that they need
and deserve without the legislative history of a loss on this floor
that is totally unnecessary. So I am hopeful that my colleagues over
there will be a part of that.
Mr. Chairman, the entire State of California is under a work waiver
so that no one in California has to work to be able to stay on food
stamps. That doesn't make any sense to me when you have got an
unemployment rate of 4 percent across this country. So something has to
change in that regard.
What I have heard over and over, not only today but throughout this
debate, is folks from the other side, they are full out, full throttle
in favor of work requirements, couldn't be more supportive of work
requirements--just not these.
Over and over and over, they are full out in favor. We have got a
legislative history of all of my colleagues on the other side talking
about how important it is for job training, for education, for getting
folks the skills and tools they need to be able to have meaningful
work--just not these. Got it.
My ranking member had a letter from his folks that said not to
negotiate on SNAP. I took him at his word on that in regard. It is
disappointing that we have reached this point.
But we are at that point. We now have a bill before us that does make
meaningful reforms to the work requirements under food stamps, that
does not touch the working poor. Folks who are willing to work 20 hours
a week, no matter how long they are in that circumstance, we are going
to be shoulder to shoulder with them to try to get the support they
need.
We are also trying to create a State-based State-run program in which
the Federal taxpayer pays for work that the States can do on job
training. There is no better spot to locate that than there because we
cannot create a one-size-fits-all training program here in the United
States House of Representatives. I trust our States to be able to do
that. Those States have the capacity. They have the bandwidth to make
that happen. Comments to the contrary are really misplaced.
So, as we move forward through the rest of the debate, I would
encourage my colleagues to join me in opposing all of those poison pill
amendments that have been presented that would harm the non-SNAP
portion of the farm bill and support the work that we have done so
that, as my good colleague from Oklahoma just said, we can continue to
move this process forward, understand what the Senate gets done, move
to conference, and move a bill to the President's desk by September 30
so that farmers and ranchers across this country, who we are the most
keen to support, have that certainty of what the next 5-year support
system looks like.
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Right, wrong, or indifferent, they deserve that kind of assurance,
that kind of confidence that they will have the farm program to back
them up and their bankers are supported in that regard as well. So I am
asking my colleagues to support H.R. 2 and fend off those poison pill
amendments.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
The CHAIR. All time for general debate has expired.
Mr. CONAWAY. Mr. Chairman, I move that the Committee do now rise.
The motion was agreed to.
Accordingly, the Committee rose; and the Speaker pro tempore (Mr.
Collins of Georgia) having assumed the chair, Mr. Mitchell, Chair of
the Committee of the Whole House on the state of the Union, reported
that that Committee, having had under consideration the bill (H.R. 2)
to provide for the reform and continuation of agricultural and other
programs of the Department of Agriculture through fiscal year 2023, and
for other purposes, had come to no resolution thereon.
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