[Congressional Record Volume 164, Number 80 (Wednesday, May 16, 2018)]
[House]
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PROVIDING FOR CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 5698, PROTECT AND SERVE ACT OF
2018; PROVIDING FOR CONSIDERATION OF S. 2372, VETERANS CEMETERY BENEFIT
CORRECTION ACT; AND PROVIDING FOR CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 2, AGRICULTURE
AND NUTRITION ACT OF 2018
Mr. WOODALL. Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on Rules, I
call up House Resolution 891 and ask for its immediate consideration.
The Clerk read the resolution, as follows:
H. Res. 891
Resolved, That upon adoption of this resolution it shall be
in order to consider in the House the bill (H.R. 5698) to
amend title 18, United States Code, to punish criminal
offenses targeting law enforcement officers, and for other
purposes. All points of order against consideration of the
bill are waived. The bill shall be considered as read. All
points of order against provisions in the bill are waived.
The previous question shall be considered as ordered on the
bill and on any amendment thereto to final passage without
intervening motion except: (1) one hour of debate equally
divided and controlled by the chair and ranking minority
member of the Committee on the Judiciary; (2) the further
amendment printed in part A of the report of the Committee on
Rules accompanying this resolution, if offered by the Member
designated in the report, which shall be in order without
intervention of any point of order, shall be considered as
read, shall be separately debatable for the time specified in
the report equally divided and controlled by the proponent
and an opponent, and shall not be subject to a demand for
division of the question; and (3) one motion to recommit with
or without instructions.
Sec. 2. Upon adoption of this resolution it shall be in
order to consider in the House the bill (S. 2372) to amend
title 38, United States Code, to provide outer burial
receptacles for remains buried in National Parks, and for
other purposes. All points of order against consideration of
the bill are waived. An amendment in the nature of a
substitute consisting of the text of H.R. 5674 as reported by
the Committee on Veterans' Affairs, as modified by the
amendment printed in part B of the report of the Committee on
Rules accompanying this resolution, shall be considered as
adopted. The bill, as amended, shall be considered as read.
All points of order against provisions in the bill, as
amended, are waived. The previous question shall be
considered as ordered on the bill, as amended, and on any
further amendment thereto, to final passage without
intervening motion except: (1) one hour of debate equally
divided and controlled by the chair and ranking minority
member of the Committee on Veterans' Affairs; and (2) one
motion to recommit with or without instructions.
Sec. 3. At any time after adoption of this resolution the
Speaker may, pursuant to clause 2(b) of rule XVIII, declare
the House resolved into the Committee of the Whole House on
the state of the Union for consideration of the bill (H.R. 2)
to provide for the reform and continuation of agricultural
and other programs of the Department of Agriculture through
fiscal year 2023, and for other purposes. The first reading
of the bill shall be dispensed with. All points of order
against consideration of the bill are waived. General debate
shall be confined to the bill and shall not exceed one hour
equally divided and controlled by the chair and ranking
minority member of the Committee on Agriculture. After
general debate the bill shall be considered for amendment
under the five-minute rule. It shall be in order to consider
as an original bill for the purpose of amendment under the
five-minute rule the amendment in the nature of a substitute
recommended by the Committee on Agriculture now printed in
the bill. The committee amendment in the nature of a
substitute shall be considered as read. All points of order
against the committee amendment in the nature of a substitute
are waived. No amendment to the committee amendment in the
nature of a substitute shall be in order except those printed
in part C of the report of the Committee on Rules
accompanying this resolution. Each such amendment may be
offered only in the order printed in the report, may be
offered only by a Member designated in the report, shall be
considered as read, shall be debatable for the time specified
in the report equally divided and controlled by the proponent
and an opponent, shall not be subject to amendment, and shall
not be subject to a demand for division of the question in
the House or in the Committee of the Whole. All points of
order against such amendments are waived. At the conclusion
of consideration of the bill for amendment pursuant to this
resolution, the Committee of the Whole shall rise without
motion. No further consideration of the bill shall be in
order except pursuant to a subsequent order of the House.
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Point of Order
Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, pursuant to section 426 of the
Congressional Budget and Empowerment Control Act of 1974, I make a
point of order against consideration of the rule, House Resolution 891.
Section 426 of the Budget Act specifically states that the Rules
Committee may not waive the point of order prescribed by section 425 of
that same act.
Section 3 of House Resolution 891 states that: ``All points of order
against consideration of the bill are waived.'' Therefore, I make a
point of order pursuant to section 426 of the Congressional Budget Act
that this rule may not be considered.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Massachusetts makes a
point of order that the resolution violates section 426(a) of the
Congressional Budget Act of 1974.
The gentleman has met the threshold burden under the rule, and the
gentleman from Massachusetts and a Member opposed each will control 10
minutes of debate on the question of consideration. Following debate,
the Chair will put the question of consideration as the statutory means
of disposing of the point of order.
The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Massachusetts.
Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
The Unfunded Mandates Reform Act, it was a Republican bill passed in
a Republican Congress, but this act was supposed to stop Congress from
passing bills that forced huge new costs on State and local governments
without giving them the money to pay for those costs.
Well, apparently it didn't work, because the farm bill, which is part
of this rule, would impose massive new mandates on State and local
governments in the Republican majority's quest to kick families off of
SNAP.
For anyone unfamiliar, that is the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance
Program, which helps to feed millions of struggling American families
every day. But one provision in the farm bill would force States to
deny SNAP benefits to families with an absent parent unless those
households cooperate with child support enforcement agencies.
According to the CBO, that is the Congressional Budget Office, it is
a nonpartisan group of experts that analyze this stuff. This additional
burden on single-parent families would save
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the Federal Government $4 billion, but my Republican colleagues don't
seem to have thought this through, because it would cost child support
agencies over $7 billion to recoup those child support payments. So
they are spending $7 billion to recoup $4 billion.
CBO, that is the group of nonpartisan experts, says that the cost to
States, who have no say in this matter, would be over $1 billion.
Now, I don't know who wrote this provision, since it sure didn't come
out of the Agriculture Committee or the hearings that we conducted, but
whoever it was, they really need to work on their basic arithmetic
skills.
When you spend $7 billion to recoup $4 billion, that is what I call a
terrible idea, not legislating.
Now, another unfunded mandate would require States to offer
employment and training services to SNAP recipients as part of the
bill's devastating new work requirements. But according to CBO, again,
these are the nonpartisan experts, the bill won't provide States with
enough funds to implement those training programs.
So not only are Republicans heartlessly kicking 1 million Americans
off of SNAP with these additional burdens, but they also are not
providing States with enough money for training programs so that these
people can find jobs and get their benefits back. I mean, you seriously
can't make this stuff up.
CBO, again, the Congressional Budget Office, those nonpartisan
experts, reported yet another intergovernmental mandate that would
prevent communities from restricting the use of dangerous pesticides,
even if they determine the restrictions are necessary to protect
children's health, like stopping harmful insecticides from being
sprayed near schools or hospitals.
This bill also requires that every State allow the sale of all legal
agricultural products from other States, preempting States' food safety
and environmental standards.
Now, you heard me right. The Republicans are preventing local
communities from protecting their children from toxic chemicals and
forcing States to allow products that break laws meant to protect the
health and safety of their own citizens.
Now, Mr. Speaker, I thought the Republicans were supposed to be all
about States' rights. The Unfunded Mandates Reform Act was a Republican
bill, as I mentioned.
What about the rules of this institution? It is actually against
House rules, believe it or not, to bring a bill to the floor that
imposes unfunded mandates on State and local governments.
Not a problem, Mr. Speaker. The Republican-controlled Rules
Committee, or as I like to call it, the ``Break the Rules'' Committee,
waived that rule and gave this disastrous farm bill a get-out-of-jail-
free card.
But it turns out that waiving the unfunded mandates rule is also
against the rules of the House. That is right. Republicans, once the
party of States' rights, are rigging the rules and ignoring the law so
that they can pass this disastrous bill.
So here is a moment, I think, where liberals and conservatives can
come together, where all my Republican friends who oppose unfunded
mandates can join with many of us on the Democratic side and actually
do something. This is your chance to prove it and to stand up and to be
counted.
Don't let the Rules Committee run roughshod over your values in the
name of passing this lousy bill. Or maybe unfunded mandates on State
and local governments are actually fine with my conservative friends
just so long as they are imposed on a process that takes SNAP benefits
away from millions of people.
As I find myself saying far too often these days, a bad process
produces bad policy. And this farm bill is a bad policy, plain and
simple. It is not thought out. It is a bunch of unfunded mandates. It
is a disaster.
It is bad for the millions of working families, children, older
adults, and other vulnerable Americans who will be kicked off of SNAP
or see their benefits reduced. It is bad for farmers and ranchers, who
are already suffering from low prices, low overhead, and market
uncertainty, not to mention a new trade war, courtesy of Donald Trump.
It is bad for State and local governments, who will have massive
unpaid-for costs despite having no input whatsoever on the drafting of
this bill.
So let's send it back to the drawing table so we can sit down in a
bipartisan way, in the bipartisan tradition of the Agriculture
Committee, and come up with smart, compassionate, forward-thinking
legislation instead of this.
So I ask my colleagues to join with us in a bipartisan way against
considering this rule, which ignores the costs this bill imposes on
State and local governments, in violation of the Unfunded Mandates
Reform Act.
If you believe unfunded mandates are wrong, then you shouldn't
support this rule. I mean, where are my conservative friends? Where is
the Freedom Caucus, who rail about unfunded mandates? Where are you? I
mean, I hope you are going to stand up and have the courage of your
convictions and vote with us on this and send this bill back to
committee, where we ought to do a farm bill in a bipartisan and a
thoughtful way.
This process has been lousy from the beginning, and now we have a
bill that has all kinds of protections, because there are all kinds of
unfunded mandates on our States.
Wait till your governors begin to read the fine print in this farm
bill, wait till your local agencies read the fine print in this farm
bill.
So if you are for unfunded mandates, then vote against what I am
suggesting here today. But if you want to put an end to these unfunded
mandates, then you need to take a stand.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. WOODALL. Mr. Speaker, I claim time in opposition to the point of
order and in favor of consideration of the resolution.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Georgia is recognized for
10 minutes.
Mr. WOODALL. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, I don't claim to know as much about the farm bill as my
friend from Massachusetts does. He has the privilege of representing
his constituents both on the Rules Committee and on the Ag Committee.
I represent my constituents on the Rules Committee and on the Budget
Committee. I work with CBO day in and day out, as my colleague knows.
CBO is absolutely charged with being the nonpartisan scorekeeper in
all of these budgetary matters. But as the gentleman recalls, having
worked for a former member of the Rules Committee himself, when
Republicans passed and President Clinton signed the unfunded mandates
point of order, it was designed with one goal and one goal only in
mind, and that was to make sure that when Congress acts, it considers
the impacts of folks back home. It considers whether or not it is
shirking a responsibility in Washington and shifting that
responsibility to State and local governments back home.
I will tell you with certainty, Mr. Speaker, that not a single Member
on this side of the aisle has wavered in that commitment from when this
bill passed in 1995 until today.
What my friend from Massachusetts references are programs that are
implemented by the States in order to receive a Federal benefit. We see
this happen all the time, day in and day out. You get all the
transportation money that you want, but you need to alter your speed
limit if you want to receive that transportation money. You can get all
the transportation money you want, but you need to deal with your
drinking age if you want to get that money.
What we are talking about today at its core, Mr. Speaker, is whether
or not, at a time when we have the lowest unemployment rate in my
lifetime, at a time when we have more jobs available to be filled in
America than ever before in American history, whether it is a burden to
say if you want to receive a Federal benefit, that being food stamps,
that you should try to find a job first. If you can't find that job, we
should get you enrolled in a job training program so that you can find
the job.
At the end of the day, the farm bill aims to do two things with the
SNAP program: number one, is continue to provide a safety net for
families in need. But number two, to make sure it remains that net and
tries to lift folks
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out of poverty instead of trap them in poverty for generations to come.
Mr. Speaker, this unfunded mandates point of order, I was in Congress
at the time that it passed, has been a speed bump, a needed speed bump
in the consideration of legislation time and time again.
Now, sadly, more often than not, we see it as a dilatory tactic on
the House floor. We see it raised as something just to try to slow down
the process and gum up the works.
That is not what is happening here today. I want to stipulate that
that is true.
My friend from Massachusetts raises a legitimate concern, but what I
would say to my colleagues is this is a task, an obligation that has
been placed on the States in consideration of receiving a Federal
benefit. Folks are not mandated to do anything at all, but if we are to
participate in the program, if folks are to continue to work through
the program, if we are to get people back to work, if we are to provide
this safety net, if we are to succeed on behalf of our constituents, as
we all want to do, then we are going to have a partnership between the
Federal Government and the State governments to make that happen.
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Again, I respect my friend from Massachusetts, Mr. Speaker. He is an
authority on the farm bill and an authority on the SNAP program. But as
far as the unfunded mandates point of order goes, I would encourage my
colleagues to reject that request today and to vote in favor of
proceeding with consideration of the bill.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, how much time do I have remaining?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Massachusetts has 3
minutes remaining.
Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, I would encourage my colleague and anybody
else to do something radical: actually read the CBO study.
Basically, what it says here is that the bill would impose
intergovernmental mandates by amending SNAP eligibility requirements,
placing new responsibilities on States as administrators of child
support enforcement, and requiring new State activities in the SNAP
program.
For large entitlement programs like SNAP and child support
enforcement, UMRA defines an increase in the stringency of conditions
on States and localities as an intergovernmental mandate if affected
governments lack authority to offset those costs while continuing to
provide required services. The bill's requirements would increase the
workload of State agencies in areas where they have limited flexibility
to amend their responsibilities and offset additional costs and, thus,
would be intergovernmental mandates.
In other words, on a whole range of issues, this bill requires States
to do so much more, and the Federal Government does not provide the
funding to meet those obligations. So if States want to provide SNAP
benefits to their citizens, which I think every State continues to want
to do, they are going to have to embrace all these unfunded mandates,
add all these additional costs on to what they are already paying.
These are big, fat unfunded mandates. And I want to tell you, when
your Governors read this bill, when you read this bill, you are going
to be amazed about all these additional burdens that are going to be
imposed on States and localities. If this isn't an unfunded mandate, if
this wasn't what that Republican initiative was all about when it was
first implemented, I have no idea what it is.
But I will tell you, even on the work training programs, this bill
would provide maybe about $30 per person for education and training. We
are told that education and training programs, on average, range from
$7,000 to $14,000 to be effective. So this is an unfunded mandate,
plain and simple. If you care about unfunded mandates, you are going to
support us in our initiative here today.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. WOODALL. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, again, I recognize my friend's passion. I tell you, this
is not going to be the end of my friend's passion. We are going to be
here for another hour, together, talking about the farm bill, and I
suspect we will see even a new degree of passion because my friend from
Massachusetts is incredibly committed to his point of view on the SNAP
program.
What I would tell you, Mr. Speaker--and I will speak on behalf of my
Governor from the great State of Georgia; I will speak on behalf of my
legislators and my administrators in the great State of Georgia--folks
want to be a part of lifting people out of poverty. Nobody wants to be
a part of trapping people in a cycle of poverty, and there is
absolutely, Mr. Speaker, a degree of complicity that this Chamber has
often been involved in by saying: This is the best we can do. We can't
do any better, and we are just going to resign ourselves to the fact
that generational poverty will continue. I say nonsense, and this bill
is a step in the right direction.
I share my friend's frustration that what should have been a
bipartisan farm bill, what traditionally is a bipartisan farm bill,
went off the rails somewhere in the process and folks walked away from
the table. We can assign blame however we choose to do it; but in this
case, Mr. Speaker, we are talking about a bill that is going to take a
major step forward in lifting folks out of poverty, a major step
forward in putting people back to work, a major step forward in making
sure that folks who receive Federal benefits are those who need Federal
benefits, but those who have opportunities to do more and to do better
for their families have partners in both their Federal and State
governments to make that happen. I think that is what all my colleagues
here want.
I encourage my friends to reject my friend's point of order and to
vote to consider this bill today.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. All time for debate has expired.
The question is, Will the House now consider the resolution?
The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that
the ayes appeared to have it.
Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.
The yeas and nays were ordered.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 223,
nays 181, not voting 23, as follows:
[Roll No. 184]
YEAS--223
Abraham
Aderholt
Allen
Amodei
Arrington
Babin
Bacon
Banks (IN)
Barletta
Barr
Barton
Bergman
Biggs
Bilirakis
Bishop (MI)
Bishop (UT)
Black
Blackburn
Blum
Bost
Brady (TX)
Brat
Brooks (AL)
Brooks (IN)
Buchanan
Buck
Bucshon
Budd
Burgess
Byrne
Calvert
Carter (GA)
Carter (TX)
Chabot
Cheney
Coffman
Cole
Collins (GA)
Collins (NY)
Comer
Comstock
Conaway
Cook
Costello (PA)
Cramer
Crawford
Culberson
Curbelo (FL)
Curtis
Davidson
Davis, Rodney
Denham
DeSantis
DesJarlais
Diaz-Balart
Donovan
Duffy
Duncan (SC)
Duncan (TN)
Dunn
Emmer
Estes (KS)
Faso
Ferguson
Fitzpatrick
Fleischmann
Flores
Fortenberry
Foxx
Frelinghuysen
Gaetz
Gallagher
Garrett
Gianforte
Gibbs
Gohmert
Goodlatte
Gosar
Gowdy
Granger
Graves (GA)
Graves (LA)
Graves (MO)
Griffith
Grothman
Guthrie
Handel
Harper
Harris
Hartzler
Hensarling
Herrera Beutler
Hice, Jody B.
Higgins (LA)
Hill
Holding
Hollingsworth
Hudson
Huizenga
Hultgren
Hunter
Hurd
Issa
Jenkins (KS)
Jenkins (WV)
Johnson (LA)
Johnson (OH)
Johnson, Sam
Jordan
Joyce (OH)
Katko
Kelly (MS)
Kelly (PA)
King (IA)
King (NY)
Kinzinger
Knight
Kustoff (TN)
LaHood
LaMalfa
Lamborn
Lance
Latta
Lesko
Lewis (MN)
LoBiondo
Long
Loudermilk
Love
Lucas
MacArthur
Marchant
Marino
Marshall
Massie
Mast
McCarthy
McCaul
McClintock
McHenry
McKinley
McMorris Rodgers
McSally
Meadows
Messer
Mitchell
Moolenaar
Mooney (WV)
Mullin
Newhouse
Noem
Norman
Nunes
Olson
Palazzo
Palmer
Paulsen
Pearce
Perry
Pittenger
Poe (TX)
Poliquin
Posey
Ratcliffe
Renacci
Rice (SC)
Roby
Roe (TN)
Rogers (AL)
Rohrabacher
Rokita
Rooney, Francis
Rooney, Thomas J.
Ros-Lehtinen
Ross
Rothfus
Rouzer
Royce (CA)
Russell
Rutherford
Sanford
Scalise
Schweikert
Scott, Austin
Sensenbrenner
Sessions
Shimkus
Simpson
Smith (MO)
Smith (NE)
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Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Smucker
Stefanik
Stewart
Stivers
Taylor
Tenney
Thompson (PA)
Tipton
Trott
Turner
Upton
Valadao
Wagner
Walberg
Walden
Walker
Walorski
Walters, Mimi
Weber (TX)
Wenstrup
Westerman
Williams
Wilson (SC)
Wittman
Womack
Woodall
Yoder
Yoho
Young (AK)
Young (IA)
Zeldin
NAYS--181
Adams
Aguilar
Amash
Barragan
Bass
Beatty
Bera
Bishop (GA)
Blumenauer
Blunt Rochester
Bonamici
Boyle, Brendan F.
Brady (PA)
Brownley (CA)
Bustos
Butterfield
Capuano
Carbajal
Carson (IN)
Cartwright
Castor (FL)
Castro (TX)
Cicilline
Clark (MA)
Clarke (NY)
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Cohen
Connolly
Cooper
Correa
Costa
Courtney
Crist
Crowley
Cuellar
Cummings
Davis (CA)
Davis, Danny
DeFazio
Delaney
DeLauro
DelBene
Demings
DeSaulnier
Deutch
Dingell
Doggett
Doyle, Michael F.
Ellison
Eshoo
Espaillat
Esty (CT)
Evans
Foster
Frankel (FL)
Fudge
Gallego
Garamendi
Gomez
Gonzalez (TX)
Gottheimer
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Hanabusa
Hastings
Heck
Higgins (NY)
Himes
Hoyer
Huffman
Jackson Lee
Jayapal
Jeffries
Johnson (GA)
Johnson, E. B.
Jones
Kaptur
Keating
Kelly (IL)
Kennedy
Khanna
Kihuen
Kildee
Kilmer
Kind
Krishnamoorthi
Kuster (NH)
Lamb
Langevin
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Lawrence
Lawson (FL)
Lee
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lieu, Ted
Loebsack
Lofgren
Lowenthal
Lowey
Lujan, Ben Ray
Lynch
Maloney, Carolyn B.
Maloney, Sean
Matsui
McCollum
McEachin
McGovern
Meeks
Meng
Moore
Moulton
Murphy (FL)
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal
Nolan
Norcross
O'Halleran
O'Rourke
Pallone
Panetta
Pascrell
Payne
Pelosi
Perlmutter
Peters
Peterson
Pingree
Pocan
Polis
Price (NC)
Quigley
Raskin
Rice (NY)
Rosen
Roybal-Allard
Ruiz
Ruppersberger
Rush
Ryan (OH)
Sanchez
Sarbanes
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schneider
Schrader
Scott (VA)
Scott, David
Serrano
Sewell (AL)
Sherman
Sinema
Sires
Smith (WA)
Soto
Speier
Suozzi
Swalwell (CA)
Takano
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Titus
Tonko
Torres
Tsongas
Vargas
Veasey
Vela
Velazquez
Visclosky
Walz
Wasserman Schultz
Waters, Maxine
Watson Coleman
Welch
Yarmuth
NOT VOTING--23
Beyer
Brown (MD)
Cardenas
Chu, Judy
DeGette
Engel
Gabbard
Gutierrez
Labrador
Lipinski
Luetkemeyer
Lujan Grisham, M.
McNerney
Reed
Reichert
Richmond
Rogers (KY)
Roskam
Shea-Porter
Shuster
Thornberry
Webster (FL)
Wilson (FL)
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Ms. KAPTUR, Mrs. NAPOLITANO, and Ms. EDDIE BERNICE JOHNSON of Texas
changed their vote from ``yea'' to ``nay.''
So the question of consideration was decided in the affirmative.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Crawford). The gentleman from Georgia
(Mr. Woodall) is recognized for 1 hour.
Mr. WOODALL. Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker, for the purpose of debate
only, I yield the customary 30 minutes to the gentleman from
Massachusetts (Mr. McGovern), an Ag Committee member and my fellow
Rules Committee member, pending which I yield myself such time as I may
consume. During consideration of this resolution, all time yielded is
for the purpose of debate only.
I thank my colleagues for standing with me to consider this rule and
then these three underlying measures today.
General Leave
Mr. WOODALL. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that all Members
have 5 legislative days to revise and extend their remarks.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the
gentleman from Georgia?
There was no objection.
Mr. WOODALL. Mr. Speaker, the rule before us today, House Resolution
891, makes in order three pieces of legislation. The one that you heard
discussed already today is H.R. 2, the Agriculture and Nutrition Act of
2018. Two other measures included in this rule are H.R. 5698, the
Protect and Serve Act of 2018, and S. 2372, the VA MISSION Act of 2018.
Mr. Speaker, as you know, this week is Police Week, and police
officers serving our communities every day with distinction get this 1
week a year that we all take a moment to pause and say thank you.
President Trump made that point yesterday just outside the Capitol
talking about these heroes who put their life on the line absolutely
every day.
To quote the President, he said: ``Your moms and dads were among the
bravest Americans to ever live'' when he was talking to the children of
fallen officers. Of course, he was absolutely right.
For that reason I am particularly pleased that the rule today brings
up the Protect and Serve Act of 2018. It brings it to the floor under a
structured amendment process. The bill makes it a Federal crime to
intentionally cause or to attempt to cause serious bodily harm to any
law enforcement officer. I say that again, Mr. Speaker. It makes it a
Federal crime to attempt to cause or intentionally cause serious bodily
harm to any law enforcement officer.
Mr. Speaker, we are trying to speak in the absolute strongest terms
when we speak on behalf of our men and women in law enforcement
uniforms. In fact, just last night in the Rules Committee, my friend,
Mr. McGovern from Massachusetts, said there is virtually no
disagreement between the parties and the Chambers on this legislation.
Another bill we can agree on, Mr. Speaker, is the VA MISSION Act. In
fact, I was with one of The American Legion chapters in our district
just Monday talking about the very provisions in this bill and how they
can make a substantive difference for our men and women who have served
us in the Armed Forces.
This is a four corners agreement bill, Mr. Speaker, and by four
corners, I mean the chairmen and the ranking members on the House side
and on the Senate side have agreed on this legislation. They have
worked together on this legislation, and they have put it together in a
way that we can all be proudly supportive of that final product.
Let me tell you what this bill will do in specifics, Mr. Speaker.
It consolidates seven duplicative community care programs into one
program that is easier for our veterans to understand and to access. It
ensures that the Veterans Choice Program has enough funding to continue
working for our veterans for yet another year as the committees
continue to perfect that program. I am sure you hear the same
constructive counsel that I do, Mr. Speaker. Good for Congress for
letting us opt out so that we can get the services we need quickly. But
the Veterans Choice Program still has work to do to get those
agreements approved promptly and get those doctors reimbursed promptly.
The VA MISSION Act, Mr. Speaker, also creates a fair and transparent
process for a comprehensive audit of the VA's physical facilities.
Where are those regions of the country that are underserved? Where are
those regions of the country where consolidation would better serve?
The VA can transform its aging infrastructure. This bill provides a
comprehensive audit process so that we can modernize the VA for today's
veterans. It expands the caregiver program, Mr. Speaker, to provide the
benefits to pre-9/11 veterans so that they are in parity with those
benefits of post-9/11 veterans, and it provides VA provider recruitment
and retention efforts so that our veterans have access to those medical
personnel that they desperately need.
These reforms aren't just supported by those four corners that I
mentioned, the Republicans and Democrats who lead the Veterans' Affairs
Committee in the House and who lead the committees in the Senate, but
they are also supported by over 30 veterans' service organizations from
across the country, Mr. Speaker, as Chairman Roe highlighted in the
Rules Committee just last night.
I don't pretend that these measures do everything for everyone, Mr.
Speaker. They do not. But it is another in a long step of bills making
progress on behalf of the American people. Whether we are talking about
our men and women in law enforcement uniforms, Mr. Speaker, or whether
we are talking about our men and women who have worn our military
uniforms, it is another example of how Chairman Roe
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and Ranking Member Walz and our colleagues in the Senate are taking
steps forward to repay our debts.
Finally, Mr. Speaker, as we have already heard discussed, this rule
would make in order H.R. 2, our Agriculture and Nutrition Act of 2018.
It doesn't just make in order the base text, Mr. Speaker, it also makes
in order 20 amendments that have been offered by both Republicans and
Democrats in this Chamber who would like to try to make that bill even
better. Twenty amendments have been made in order already, and when we
finish debate here on the floor, my colleague from Massachusetts and I
will return to the Rules Committee upstairs, and we will consider yet
another round of amendments this afternoon so that we can continue to
perfect this bill throughout the week.
Mr. Speaker, one rule, three bills--three bills that have the ability
to make a difference for families across the country north, south,
east, and west. I hope my colleagues will support this rule, get
involved in that underlying debate, and support those bills on final
passage as well.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, I want to thank the gentleman from Georgia
(Mr. Woodall) for the customary 30 minutes, and I yield myself such
time as I may consume.
(Mr. McGOVERN asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, the gentleman from Georgia just said one
rule three bills, which has become kind of a habit around here where we
try to bunch a whole bunch of bills together in one rule so we don't
actually focus on any one issue in a way that is meaningful. It is, I
think, an attempt to try to stifle debate.
We have a bill that would protect our police. We have a bill that
would deal with veterans. And then we have the farm bill. Mr. Speaker,
I want to focus on the farm bill, if I may.
I have served on the Agriculture Committee since 2011. Historically,
it has been one of the most--if not the most--bipartisan committee in
the House of Representatives. That is how farm bills are normally
crafted, through compromise and through a coalition of Members from
urban and rural America coming together to get something done.
That is why I have always had faith in this process--faith that
minority views would be heard. Even when it wasn't easy and even when
the final product wasn't perfect, the end product was traditionally
bipartisan. Until today.
The process for this farm bill was a sham. In no way did it reflect
the Agriculture Committee's long, bipartisan tradition. I am the
ranking member of the Nutrition Subcommittee, and even I wasn't able to
see a word of text until this bill was publicly released. I am not even
sure when Republicans on the subcommittee first saw the language.
Over the last 2\1/2\ years, the Agriculture Committee held 23
hearings on SNAP. Apparently, they were just for show, because not a
single witness--Democrat or Republican--recommended any of the drastic
cuts or draconian policy changes to SNAP included in this Republican
farm bill.
When our distinguished ranking member on the committee, Mr. Peterson,
was finally asked for Democratic feedback on the nutrition title, he
gave a long, thoughtful list of objections and suggested changes. His
input was ignored with the majority changing barely a handful of words
in this whole bill.
The Republican farm bill is filled with controversial provisions, and
no one will tell us how they even got into the bill. Believe me, Mr.
Speaker, I have asked. I can't get an answer. Maybe President Trump's
ethically challenged White House opened its doors even wider to
lobbyists and let them write key parts of this bill. Or perhaps an
arch-conservative think tank was given the chance to airdrop its wish
list into the bill.
But I suspect something more mundane and damaging. I think the
Speaker viewed this bill as his last chance to enact sweeping cuts to
safety net programs before he retires. Even the number of this bill,
H.R. 2, was always reserved by the Speaker for his so-called welfare
reform bill.
So I warn my colleagues on both sides of the aisle: make no mistake.
This legislation is a transformation of our social safety net dressed
up as a farm bill. It beats up, belittles, and demonizes poor people
all across this country. It doesn't even try to put lipstick on this
pig.
Mr. Speaker, last week it was reported that the Republican Conference
brought in communicator Frank Luntz to try to wordsmith how Republicans
can justify supporting this bill. They must be terrified. They know
that just explaining the reality would appall and enrage most
Americans.
Now, Mr. Luntz is the same guy who helped craft Speaker Gingrich's
Contract with America. He earned PolitiFact's lie of the year in 2010
for one of his debunked claims on healthcare reform and even tried once
in an interview to turn the term Orwellian into something positive. Mr.
Speaker, he has his work cut out for him here because I don't even
think Mr. Luntz can wordsmith something so cruel into something
positive.
Now, here is how mean this bill really is. SNAP is our Nation's
premier anti-hunger program, our first line of defense against hunger.
People, including the most vulnerable among us--kids, the disabled, and
the elderly--turn to it when there is no other option. For them, there
is no plan B when they are struggling to figure out where their next
meal is coming from. With this bill, Republicans are cutting SNAP by
over $20 billion. Millions of people would see their benefits slashed,
and many would be cut off from assistance entirely.
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Why are the Republicans doing this?
To pay for hoisting their latest unproven and way underfunded State-
based workforce bureaucracy experiment on the entire Nation. That is
why. I say ``unproven'' because I don't see any evidence or studies
suggesting that any of this will even work. In fact, I have a study
here that points out the flaws in this proposal.
It expands work requirements for poor parents while making
millionaires and billionaires eligible for subsidies even if they don't
live or work on a farm.
You can't make this stuff up. There is no evidence that this approach
is effective. We have no idea whether States have the manpower or
infrastructure to take this on. We have no idea how much it will cost
States to put a recipient through a job training program. This bill
would give States just $30 to train each person, when we know it costs
thousands of dollars per person to fund robust job training programs.
Mr. Speaker, it would be laughable if this weren't so serious.
Currently, States are testing the effectiveness of job training
programs as a way to help SNAP recipients move out of poverty. But we
aren't expecting to get the results of these pilot programs until 2021.
Shouldn't we wait to see the results of State pilot programs?
Shouldn't we wait until we know what might work and what doesn't? Why
should we force our Governors and States to gamble on a sweeping,
untested bureaucracy that appears doomed to failure?
Clearly, the Republicans aren't going to let a lack of facts stop
them from creating this massive, new government bureaucracy that will
affect millions of vulnerable Americans. This is from a party that
claims to want a government so small, they could drown it in a bathtub.
Apparently, they want a government just small enough to leave millions
of poor and working Americans with nowhere to turn.
This isn't about helping people; this is about putting up roadblocks
that make nutrition assistance difficult, if not impossible, to get.
This legislation also severs the link between SNAP and the Low Income
Heating Energy Assistance Program, or LIHEAP. This connection is what
has allowed disabled and working families to receive credit for out-of-
pocket heating and cooling expenses without unnecessary trips to the
SNAP office. But the changes in this bill would force recipients to
make those unnecessary trips, and they would lead to more hassles and
avoidable errors and people falling through the cracks.
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I think the Republican leaders in the House are the only people on
this planet who believe that creating unnecessary hassles count as some
kind of laudable reform.
The Republican farm bill would also eliminate broad-based categorical
eligibility. This has been a critical option that States have used to
help working families with kids and seniors during tough times. More
than 40 States today use this option, including 12 States with
Republican Governors. Eliminating it would cause 400,000 eligible
households--close to 1 million people--to lose their food benefits. The
nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimated that 265,000 students
will lose access to free school lunches if this bill were to become
law.
You know, when I was growing up, it was school bullies that went
after kids' lunch money; it wasn't the United States Congress. This is
shameful.
But let's also be clear here that eliminating broad-based categorical
eligibility would throw close to 1 million people off of SNAP who work.
Basically, it would deny SNAP benefits to people who earn under $16,000
a year.
Mr. Speaker, what the hell is wrong with this place?
These people can't get through the year on that. That is not enough
to feed one's self or one's family.
The Republican Congress, who rushed to raise taxes on 86 million
middle class families to pay for a tax cut for large corporations and
the richest 1 percent, is now trying to stop kids from getting school
lunches and taking assistance away from families struggling with
hunger.
This entire Congress has been one long, slow march toward making life
harder for the poor, the hungry, and working Americans. I am tired of a
Congress that prioritizes the rich, that looks out only for the
wealthy.
The legislation we take up here today should reflect our values. But
this bill doesn't reflect my values, Mr. Speaker. This is a farm bill
that doesn't even make significant improvements to our agricultural
programs to help farmers who are caught in the middle of the
President's trade war.
It is an attack on those living in poverty. It trades in stereotypes
to justify shredding our social safety net, and it is hell-bent on
making hunger worse in this country. This Republican farm bill is
disgusting, and the process that got us here is disgusting.
By the way, just so Members are clear, the average SNAP benefit is
$1.40 per person per meal. I say to my colleagues, you try living on
that.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. WOODALL. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 30 seconds to say I agree
with my friend. Asking single, working-age, healthy, nondisabled men to
go to work is going to make their life harder. Going to work every day
is hard. But I would also say to my friend that it is going to make
their life better. It is a value that we should share, not a value that
we should repudiate.
This happens to be an area of disagreement, Mr. Speaker. There are so
many areas of agreement we could be focusing on.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 5 minutes to the gentleman from Oregon (Mr.
Walden), the chairman of the Energy and Commerce Committee.
Mr. WALDEN. Mr. Speaker, I rise today in support of the rule and the
good work that was done there and the VA MISSION Act, which improves
access to care for our veterans, funds the Choice Program, and expands
the caregivers program for pre-9/11 veterans.
I would like to thank the chairman and ranking member for their work
on this important legislation. I would particularly like to applaud the
inclusion of the VA Medical Scribes Pilot Act. This was legislation
that I helped write with Chairman Roe to set up a pilot program for
including scribes in primary care teams at the VA.
Research in the private sector has shown that allowing scribes to
handle electronic health records allows the healthcare providers, the
doctors, to do more of what they do best, which is to treat the
patients. So we have doctors treating patients rather than spending
their valuable time doing paperwork.
Chairman Roe joined me in my district last fall on a tour of the VA
clinic in White City, Oregon, where we heard firsthand about the
administrative challenges the VA doctors face and how that affects
their ability to care for veterans. The underlying bill that we will
bring to the floor will help. The entire bill will help. This will help
our docs have more time to spend with their patients.
We will continue to work with the VA on their implementation of this
program, but I am pleased that it was included in the underlying
legislation, Mr. Speaker.
Once again, I applaud the entire Veterans Affairs Committee on their
work to give veterans the access to healthcare they have earned and
deserve. I urge support and passage of the underlying VA MISSION Act
and approval of the rule.
Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Under this bill, somebody who is working and earns like $15,800 a
year up to like $23,000 a year, who works right now, and who currently
receives SNAP would lose it under this. This is how you are rewarding
their work. I just find that appalling.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Illinois (Mr.
Schneider).
Mr. SCHNEIDER. Mr. Speaker, I rise today in strong opposition to the
cruel and partisan safety net cuts masquerading as the farm bill.
The farm bill has long been a partisan cause, offering assistance and
security to farmers and needy families alike in a way that both
Democrats and Republicans can support. But this extreme bill cuts more
than $23 billion from nutrition assistance programs through eligibility
restrictions, kicking a projected 1 million households off the SNAP
program and reducing benefits for millions more.
Let me be clear: these are vital, lifesaving benefits to help
Americans put food on the table during moments of need. The average
family spends just 10 months on SNAP, receiving assistance just long
enough to get back on their feet. At the same time, the program helps
set our kids up for success. Hungry children perform worse in school,
and studies have shown that children on SNAP achieve higher test scores
and are more likely to graduate from high school. Children on SNAP
achieve higher test scores and succeed, and they have the opportunity
to do well later in life.
Mr. Speaker, the partisan approach was the wrong way on tax reform,
it was the wrong way on healthcare, and it is the wrong way now. I urge
my Republican colleagues to abandon this party-line legislation and
instead approach the farm bill in the fair, bipartisan manner we have
in the past.
Mr. WOODALL. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
I agree with my friend. I think, as a general rule, partisan
approaches are the wrong way. This is certainly not what my chairman
desired. It is certainly not where any of us wanted to end up. When
folks walk away from the table, it is where we do in fact end up.
This is the start of the process. This is not the end of the process.
I regret the way that this has sorted out for my ag friends. But we
can't do nothing because folks have gotten up and walked away from the
table. We have to continue to do what our constituents have asked us to
do, and this is a good step in that direction.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from
Colorado (Mr. Polis), a distinguished member of the Rules Committee.
Mr. POLIS. Mr. Speaker, I want to draw attention to provisions of
this bill which attack bedrock environmental laws and recklessly
promote logging over clean water, recreation, and wildlife.
In a district like mine, where the holdings of the U.S. Forest
Service are extensive, this bill is a critical part of helping to
protect our economy, our way of life, and the way we enjoy our public
lands.
Title 8 of the bill includes blatant attempts that undermine the
Endangered Species Act, NEPA, and the roadless area conservation rule.
This bill allows for congressional exemptions--basically, an earmark--
to prevent environmental reviews and public comment periods that
actually prevent communities from having a say over what happens quite
literally in their backyard. I think that we need to make sure that we
involve our local communities. This bill empowers Washington,
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D.C., decisionmakers by taking that control away from our communities.
It weakens the Endangered Species Act by eliminating scientific
expert opinion about whether projects would harm endangered species and
their critical habitats, and it prioritizes logging over recreation,
even going so far as shifting incentives to emphasize logging over
environmental restoration in other areas that support the outdoor
recreation economy, one of the biggest sources of jobs in my district
and in my State.
Before the ink is even dry on the omnibus, this farm bill threatens
to renege on the bipartisan wildfire budget deal with more proposals
that weaken protections and mitigation on our public lands.
In my State, the 6,000-acre congressional exemption or earmark would
have a detrimental impact, but it would have an even worse impact on
the much smaller Eastern and Midwestern forests, where 6,000 acres
would vastly exceed the annual sustainable maximum harvest.
When the Forest Service needs to do a 6,000-acre project, it already
can. It needs to take input from the public nearby in our neighborhoods
and in our communities about how they would be affected. Of course, it
should consider how water, soil, and wildlife habitat can be protected.
For years, congressional debate over forest management has been
framed by the need to address hazardous fuels for wildfires. This bill
takes a step away from that and makes it clear that reform efforts
weren't actually about wildfire; they are about efforts to give away
our public lands to timber and other industries and silence the voice
of residents.
Congress should stop trying to legislate logging projects and take
control. Washington should allow our communities to have a say. The
Forest Service has many tools today that include local input. All
Americans deserve is a say in how our public lands are managed.
Endangered species should certainly not be sacrificed just so more of
our forests can be logged.
Mr. Speaker, I include in the Record a letter from over 120
conservation groups opposed to these harmful forestry provisions in
H.R. 2, and I urge my colleagues to vote ``no.''
May 11, 2018.
Dear Representative: On behalf of our millions of members
and supporters we urge you to strongly oppose the extreme and
divisively partisan federal forest provisions in the Forestry
Title of the Agriculture and Nutrition Act of 2018 (H.R. 2),
also known as ``the House Farm Bill.''
The legislation is replete with provisions that undermine
bedrock environmental laws, including the National
Environmental Policy Act (NEPA), Endangered Species Act
(ESA), and Roadless Area Conservation Rule (Roadless Rule).
This bill consistently prioritizes the logging industry over
all other forest stakeholders. It would cause irreparable
harm to our federal forests, the millions of Americans who
depend on them for clean drinking water, subsistence,
recreation, and economic benefit, and the wildlife that call
them home.
The federal forest provisions in the House Farm Bill also
run contrary to the wildfire funding agreement reached only
weeks ago in the Fiscal Year 2018 Omnibus. A deal was only
reached after significant environmental concessions to pro-
logging hardliners, even though a comprehensive wildfire
funding solution had solid bi-partisan support in both
chambers going into the omnibus negotiation.
Ignoring that compromise, H.R. 2 would allow logging,
grazing, and many other activities on up to 6,000-acres--
almost 10 square miles for each single project--without any
NEPA review or disclosure of potential harms. The numerous
new exemptions are double the size of the legislated NEPA
exclusion just passed in the omnibus deal and they also
eliminate the requirement, preserved in the omnibus
agreement, to consider cumulative effects and ``extraordinary
circumstances'' such as wilderness areas and endangered
species.
This partisan bill also goes further than the omnibus deal
on the ESA, allowing federal land management agencies to
``self-consult'' on whether their actions would harm
threatened and endangered species even though such self-
consultation has already been declared unlawful by the
courts. Additionally, it attacks the landmark Roadless Rule,
makes resource management and forest stewardship dependent on
logging revenue, creating a perverse incentive, and
jeopardizes fire-vulnerable communities by deprioritizing
hazardous fuels reduction efforts in the Wildland Urban
Interface.
The harmful federal forest proposals in this legislation
solve no problem; they only add controversy to the House Farm
Bill and weaken its chances of becoming law.
For all of these reasons we strongly urge you to OPPOSE the
federal forest provisions in the House Farm Bill and any
amendments that further undermine environmental safeguards on
our federal forests.
Thank you,
Alaska Wilderness League; Allegheny Defense Project; Alpine
Lakes Protection Society; Appalachian Voices; Arise for
Social Justice; Bark; Beaver Valley Preservation Alliance;
California Native Plant Society; Cascade Forest Conservancy;
Cascadia Wildlands; Center for Biological Diversity; Center
for Sierra Nevada Conservation; Cherokee Forest Voices;
Christians For The Mountains; Climate Change Major Disaster
Declaration Campaign; Colorado Native Plant Society;
Conservation Colorado; Conservation Congress; Conservation
Northwest; Darby Creek Valley Association.
Defenders of Wildlife; Dolores River Boating Advocates;
Earth Island Institute's John Muir Project; Earthjustice;
Endangered Species Coalition; EnviroAce, LLC; Environmental
Protection Information Center; Friends of Bell Smith Springs;
Friends of Grays Harbor; Friends of Lake Monroe; Friends of
Plumas Wilderness; Friends of the Bitterroot; Friends of the
Inyo; Georgia ForestWatch; Grand Canyon Trust; Great Old
Broads for Wilderness; Great Old Broads for Wilderness--Grand
Junction Broadband; Great Old Broads for Wilderness--Rio
Grande Valley Broadband; Great Old Broads for Wilderness--
Select Roaring Fork Broadband; Greater Hells Canyon Council.
Greenvironment, LLC; Heartwood; High Country Conservation
Advocates; Hoosier Environmental Council; Idaho Conservation
League; Indiana Forest Alliance; Izaak Walton League Bush
Lake Chapter; Izaak Walton League Cass Count Chapter; Izaak
Walton League W.J. McCabe Chapter; Kentucky Conservation
Committee; Kentucky Environmental Foundation; Kentucky
Heartwood; Kentucky Resources Council, Inc.; Kettle Range
Conservation Group; Klamath Forest Alliance; KS Wild; La
Cueva Guardians; League of Conservation Voters; Los Padres
ForestWatch; Mass Forest Rescue Campaign.
Minnesota Division Izaak Walton League of America; Montana
Wilderness Association; MountainTrue; National Parks
Conservation Association; Natural Resources Defense Council;
Nature Abounds; Nature for All; New Mexico Sportsmen; New
Mexico Wild; New Mexico Wilderness Alliance; New Mexico
Wildlife Federation; New River Alliance of Climbers; North
Cascades Conservation Council; Northcoast Environmental
Center; Ohio Environmental Council; Olympic Forest Coalition;
Olympic Park Associates; Once a Forest; Oregon Wild;
Partnership for Policy Integrity.
Partnership for the National Trails System; PennFuture;
Pennsylvania Council of Churches; Public Lands Media;
RESTORE: The North Woods; Rocky Mountain Recreation
Initiative; Rocky Mountain Wild; San Juan Citizens Alliance;
San Luis Valley Ecosystem Council; Sangre de Cristo Audubon
Society; Santa Fe Forest Coalition; Save Our Sky Blue Waters;
Sequoia ForestKeeper; Shawnee Forest Sentinels; Sheep
Mountain Alliance; Sheltowee Trace Association; Sierra Club;
Sierra Forest Legacy; Sky Island Alliance; Southern
Environmental Law Center.
Southern Illinoisans Against Fracturing Our Environment;
Speak for the Trees; Tennessee Wild; The Enviro Show; The
Lands Council; The Wilderness Society; Tulare County Audubon
Society; Umpqua Watersheds, Inc.; Virginia Wilderness
Committee; Water Stone Outdoors; West Virginia Environmental
Council; West Virginia Highlands Conservancy; West Virginia
Rivers Coalition; West Virginia Wilderness Coalition; Western
Environmental Law Center; White Mountain Conservation League;
WildEarth Guardians; Wilderness Workshop; Winter Wildlands
Alliance; Zumbro Valley Audubon.
Mr. WOODALL. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, the farm economy is the biggest contributor to Georgia
GDP. Georgia families wake up every day back home and go out and often,
in some cases, are working land that their father worked before them
and their grandfather worked before them.
We have had the Georgia Farm Bureau in town pleading with us to bring
some certainty to ag policy.
There are two parts to a farm bill, for all the reasons that folks
who got here long before I did can explain: why it is we do a food
stamp half of a farm bill and an actual farmer half of the farm bill.
It is so often true that the SNAP program gets all the conversation,
Mr. Speaker. But as you heard from my friend from Colorado, while the
money is not where the farmers and those farm families are, that is
certainly where the policy is.
It has been true time and time again that, in a collaborative,
bipartisan, bicameral way, we have come together as a House and a
Senate and moved policy forward to provide market certainty for those
farmers.
You don't always appreciate the farmers in your community, Mr.
Speaker, when you can go to the grocery store and grab anything you
want
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at absolutely any time you want. Those things don't happen by accident.
They happen with a whole lot of sweat equity, a whole lot of risk-
taking, and, candidly, with a whole lot of prayer going on across farm
communities in this land.
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This bill responds to some of the marketplace needs that we are
finding in the 21st century. You are going to see those collaborative
veins throughout this measure, Mr. Speaker. I hope my colleagues will
look not just at the SNAP program, but also at the certainty that we
will provide to the very hardworking farm families across this country.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, I want to thank the gentleman from Georgia
for his comments. I think, again, if the gentleman reads this bill, he
and his farmers should be concerned about this bill because it does not
increase support for our farm safety net and support prices. So we have
a lot of farmers who are deeply concerned about that part of the bill
as well.
Mr. Speaker, I am going to urge that we defeat the previous question.
If we do, I will offer an amendment to the rule to bring up
Representative Lamb's legislation, H.R. 5805, which provides the fix
needed to implement the VA MISSION Act to ensure that it is not
hindered by budget caps.
Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to insert the text of my
amendment in the Record, along with extraneous material, immediately
prior to the vote on the previous question.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Hultgren). Is there objection to the
request of the gentleman from Massachusetts?
There was no objection.
Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, to discuss that proposal, I yield 4
minutes to the distinguished gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Lamb).
Mr. LAMB. Mr. Speaker, the VA MISSION Act is a good bill. I support
it.
For too long, our veterans could really question whether this
government means it when we say that we value their service. We cannot
erase those doubts in one day or in one bill, but we can take a
positive step forward, and we are doing that today. Both parties are
doing that together.
Together, we are finally giving all caregivers the tools they need
for the heroic work that they do. We are strengthening VA at its core
by attracting the best and the brightest to work there, and we are
giving veterans a real choice to seek the best treatment anywhere,
whether in or outside of the VA.
This is a good bill, but it is not perfect. We owe it to our veterans
and to the taxpayers to explain how we will pay for this.
There is a strict cap on VA's budget, and the MISSION Act will bust
that cap, so all of the good things in the MISSION Act will trigger
harsh, automatic cuts in the rest of VA's budget. This will force the
VA to rob Peter to pay Paul.
This is not hypothetical. One year from now, these cuts will be
triggered, and a veteran today would be right to ask if his favorite
nurse will be laid off or if the old and slow computer systems at the
VA will get even older and even slower. The money has to come from
somewhere in the VA's budget.
But there is another way. The money we are spending today does not
have to count against the budget cap. That budget cap was set before we
ever made these improvements to the VA. It is a separate issue, and the
cap number shouldn't hold us back. My bill, H.R. 5805, would simply
count the new money as separate so that it does not bust the rest of
the VA's budget.
Mr. Speaker, both sides of this House are working together to improve
the VA. That is a great thing. Let's not make it any harder than it
already is. Instead, let's finish the job. We have to spend what it
takes to get the job done. No more, but also no less.
Our veterans are looking to us to make the VA stronger, not weaker.
The workers of the VA are depending upon us to give them what they need
for their mission. Automatic budget cuts will not accomplish that
mission.
I ask my colleagues on both sides to help us, help our veterans, and
help our workers. Vote ``no'' on the motion on ordering the previous
question so that my bill, H.R. 5805, can be made in order.
Mr. WOODALL. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, it is my first time on the floor with our new colleague
from Pennsylvania. I appreciate not just his service here, but his
service to our country in general. I feel his pain.
It is a good bill, but it is not a perfect bill, and we have got ways
to do it. I have been here 7 years. I come down here time and time
again to find good bills, Mr. Speaker, and I am always frustrated that
we can't get it there.
What I have determined, Mr. Speaker, that I will share with you and
with my friend from Pennsylvania is that the reason is because you
folks don't agree with me. That is what I have decided is why I can't
get to those perfect bills, because try as I might, I cannot get 434
other people to agree with me on everything all the time.
I will tell my friend from Pennsylvania, Mr. Speaker, the most
discouraging day I have had in this institution was after we passed the
Budget Control Act and we picked four of our finest Republicans and
four of our finest Democrats from the House and also four from the
Senate--Republicans, Democrats--and we locked them in a room together
for 3 months. We said: Look at some of these mandatory spending
programs like you have talked about. Look at the discretionary
programs. Across-the-board budget cuts are nonsensical. They don't
reflect American priorities at all. So get together, talk to one
another, work through it, and figure out a way that we can make the
books balance so we don't mortgage our children's and our
grandchildren's futures but so that we also keep the commitments that
we have made to families today.
They met for 3 months, and they walked out of that room having looked
at hundreds of trillions of dollars in Federal spending and agreed on
not one penny of change together. I cannot tell you, Mr. Speaker--well,
you remember how discouraging that day was.
Moving these dollars from mandatory spending to discretionary
spending is absolutely going to put additional pressures on the budget
process--I see my friend from Minnesota nodding his head; he is a true
champion for our veterans--but, by golly, we have got to stand up and
say yes to those dollars.
I got excoriated back home for voting in favor of raising the
nondefense discretionary limits, but I have to go home and tell the
story of how I am meeting promises to veterans that were not going to
get met otherwise. I have got to go home and tell the story about how I
am meeting promises for children that weren't going to get met
otherwise. And I have got to go home and tell the story of how I don't
have 218 votes to do it my way, and the only way to get anything done
around here is in partnership.
Candidly, Mr. Speaker, we don't have a better example than the
Committee on Veterans' Affairs, Mr. Walz' leadership, Dr. Roe's
leadership. Time and time again, I see these two men go and not follow
their own hearts and passions but try to do what is best for everyone,
try to find a way forward when folks had bet against them and said you
couldn't find a way forward.
I hear the concerns of my new colleague from Pennsylvania, Mr.
Speaker, and I believe he is absolutely right; we are going to run up
against that conversation next year. The question is will we have the
courage to stand up together and fund those priorities next year.
I am looking forward to the great outpouring of bipartisanship we are
going to see in support of the VA MISSION Act today, and I will look
forward to the great outpouring of support when the funding time comes
to make sure we are as committed to those promises tomorrow as we are
together this afternoon.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the distinguished
gentleman from Minnesota (Mr. Walz), the ranking member of the
Committee on Veterans' Affairs.
Mr. WALZ. Mr. Speaker, I thank my friend from Massachusetts and my
friend from Georgia. We are going to see some camaraderie down here. I
agree with the gentleman on this. And I thank Mr. Lamb for pointing out
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clearly what needs to be done to this bill.
Mr. Speaker, I rise today in opposition to the rule. This is one of
those cases, and I think this is important on the rule, because, Mr.
Speaker, we may know it in here, but for Americans who are watching
this, the rule is how we have this debate. And this is an honest
debate.
To be absolutely clear, there is no one in this Chamber who disagrees
on the care for veterans. How we get there is what is different. On
these amendments that Mr. Lamb was proposing to offer or other things
that we would like to bring up to fix this, we should debate it here.
Dr. Roe, the chairman of the Committee on Veterans' Affairs, did
this. He had an open rule. I brought up my amendment, it was debated,
and I lost. That is democracy. I understand that. But it is the
conversation that brings our Members in that gets us to consensus.
So, by structuring a closed rule--for the American people watching
this, we already know what the score is of this game. We already know
what is going to happen ahead of time. It is in this deliberative body
that we should be having a detailed debate on this very proposal and
then voting it down.
I think we say it because of time; we say it because of constraint;
we say it because we want to control the flow of what happens here.
Well, maybe the American people don't want that flow a little bit.
We should have this debate, and I will accept losing an argument.
What I cannot accept is five people up in a room up on the third floor
here making something out of order that is clearly in order, and
whether it is accepted or not should at least be debated.
So I don't disagree with the gentleman's assessment. He is right
about us trying to find common ground. There is going to be a lot of
support on this piece of legislation when it comes up, but I think not
having an open rule and an honest debate is selling us short from
getting toward a more perfect bill--not perfect, a more perfect bill.
Mr. Speaker, I encourage my colleagues to vote ``no'' on this closed
rule.
Mr. WOODALL. Mr. Speaker, I do not have any further speakers
remaining, so I am prepared to close when the gentleman from
Massachusetts is, but I will reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, we aren't done, so if the gentleman would
like to yield me some time, that would be great.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the distinguished gentleman from
Rhode Island (Mr. Cicilline).
Mr. CICILLINE. Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to the rule and the
underlying Republican farm bill, which could devastate working
families, seniors, and the vulnerable who rely on food assistance.
Currently, more than 41 million Americans receive benefits through
the Federal food assistance program known as SNAP. Close to two-thirds
are children, the elderly, and the disabled. However, this partisan
bill would reduce SNAP benefits by $23.3 billion, denying hundreds of
thousands of American families who rely on this food support. Millions
more will see their benefits reduced because Republicans are recklessly
increasing the burden on recipients and changing eligibility
requirements.
In December, Republicans passed a tax bill benefiting the wealthiest
Americans and the most powerful corporate special interests. This
Republican tax scam increases our national debt by $2 trillion over the
next 10 years, and now our Republican colleagues are hypocritically
trying to pay for these huge tax cuts for the wealthy by taking away
resources for Americans who need them most.
Republicans are using this formerly bipartisan process to continue to
undermine the well-being of children, the elderly, and the disabled to
give gifts to the wealthy. This goes against everything we stand for as
a country.
Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to oppose the rule and to oppose
the bill.
Mr. WOODALL. Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Vermont (Mr. Welch).
Mr. WELCH. Mr. Speaker, this farm bill is outrageous. What it is
doing is breaking what has been traditionally a bipartisan commitment
to including a nutrition title that helps people in all of our
districts who need the food. This bill has had no process. It is a
continuation of an effort to ratchet down any help that Americans need.
That healthcare bill was going to help on healthcare by taking it
away from 24 million people. This nutrition bill, supposedly, is going
to help people by taking $23 billion worth of benefits away from
children, veterans, the elderly, and the disabled who need that food.
Why?
Well, there is a reason. We passed a tax cut. By the way, it wasn't
paid for. $2.3 trillion added to the deficit for a tax bill where 87
percent of the benefits go to wealthy multinational corporations and
individuals earning over $890,000 a year.
Well, the bill has come due, and we have a proposal here to come up
with $23 billion to pay for it, and that is taking meals off the table
of disabled people.
And, by the way, the work requirement, what is it really? Because
that sounds good.
By the way, who doesn't want to work? Everybody wants to work. You
need a job.
We are going to pay for this so-called work requirement by taking
money away from nutrition, paying bureaucrats, and giving them the
impossible job of putting people who are not able to work into jobs
that don't exist. Talk about cynical; that is what this bill is.
I am from Vermont where we have lots of folks who need help, and we
have lots of Vermonters who, with very little money, with enormous
volunteer effort, are doing things that put meals, good meals, on the
tables of those families.
Don't pass this farm bill that takes that nutrition away from our
Vermonters and our American citizens.
Mr. WOODALL. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, my friend from Minnesota mentioned folks who might be
watching this debate from their offices or from their homes. I think it
is a shame that we don't often get to the core of what some of our
disagreements are.
As we sit here today, it is a fact that there are more job openings
in America than at any other time in American history. That is a fact.
It is a fact that, as we sit here getting ready to move further into
the new millennium, there are more able-bodied single men out of the
workforce than ever before--that is a fact--folks who have decided not
to work.
Now, there is no disagreement in this body about providing food
assistance to hungry kids--none. None. The disagreement in this body is
whether or not, with more job openings than ever before in American
history, with more employers saying they cannot find workers, with more
employers saying ``we need to find new visa programs to get unskilled
labor into America because we don't have enough unskilled workers to do
the work here in America''--should the working families who pay the
bills in this country support able-bodied, childless, healthy men?
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That is part of the question, and I would think that is something on
which we can agree. But we are not going to have that pointed
conversation, Mr. Speaker, because there are more sympathetic targets
to go after.
If you walk in to a USDA facility or your State facility that is
administrating and you apply for food stamps, Mr. Speaker, if you
qualify for food stamps, you will get them. You heard my friend from
Massachusetts reference categorical eligibility. That means if you
qualify for a different benefit, not food stamps, we will throw in food
stamps, too.
Well, now, to be fair, that idea came about in some conservative
circles, as well, to say let's eliminate some of the paperwork
requirements. Let's make it easier for folks to apply for a whole host
of benefits. But categorical eligibility, as it exists today, Mr.
Speaker, says you don't qualify for the benefit on your own, but you do
if you--if you qualify for a second benefit, we will give you this one
as well.
Mr. Speaker, saying that you are going to eliminate categorical
eligibility is to say you are going to give food stamps to people who
qualify for food stamps. You are going to give
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SNAP benefits to people who qualify for SNAP benefits. If one wants to
expand the pool of people who qualify for SNAP benefits, that is a
debate that we can have.
But time and time again, Mr. Speaker, there are things on which we
agree in this Chamber. Programs should follow the rules that programs
have. People who qualify should get benefits. People who don't qualify
shouldn't.
We are going to continue to have this conversation in the next couple
of days, and it is going to continue to be highlighted as a source of
vast disagreement among us. But if we were having this same
conversation back home around the dinner table, if we were having this
same conversation back home at a local park or veterans organization,
we would say the very same thing: Hungry kids should have access to
food, on this we agree; and healthy, childless working age men should
have access to a job, on this we agree.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 1 minute.
Mr. Speaker, I would encourage my colleague to read the bill. Broad-
based categorical eligibility gives States the flexibility to offer
people who are struggling--more people, the SNAP benefit. There are
many States, including mine, that basically offer SNAP to people who
are at 200 percent of the poverty level. That is about $24,000. This
bill changes the criteria.
So you could be working and making anywhere from $24,000 to like
$15,900, and, right now, you are working and that is what you make and
you are eligible for SNAP. This bill says you no longer can get that
benefit. These are people who work, and this bill takes this nutrition
benefit away from them.
I don't know how anybody could think that that is a good thing to do.
I don't know how that reward works. What that does is punish people.
That punishes individuals who are doing everything they possibly can to
try to make ends meet.
And a lot of people, by the way, who qualify for SNAP who aren't
working, qualify maybe for a month or two because they are out of work
for only a month or two. This idea that SNAP creates this culture
dependency is just a myth. The majority of people on SNAP work--who are
able-bodied work. I want to make that point clear.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman from Delaware (Ms.
Blunt Rochester).
Ms. BLUNT ROCHESTER. Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to the rule
and the underlying bill. I originally had some things written down on
paper, but based on the last comments, I just want to echo the
sentiments of my colleague and also share that I served as Secretary of
Labor in the State of Delaware. I served as head of State personnel.
Jobs are important to us. I had the opportunity to work on WIA, WIOA,
all of those great pieces of legislation for workforce development. And
I want to talk about some myths.
There is a myth that the majority of people on SNAP aren't working or
won't work in a year. That is a myth. Two-thirds of SNAP recipients are
children, seniors, and people with disabilities. People don't realize
that. And there are 6 million unfilled jobs. So, for me, the problem
with this bill, the biggest problem is that it was a missed
opportunity.
If we are truly serious about employing people who are returning from
prison, people who maybe have a disability--
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The time of the gentlewoman has expired.
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truly serious about employing people who are returning from
prison, people who maybe have a disability--The SPEAKER pro
tempore. The time of the gentlewoman has expired.
The online version has been corrected to read: If we are truly
serious about employing people who are returning from prison,
people who maybe have a disability-- The SPEAKER pro tempore. The
time of the gentlewoman has expired.
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Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, I yield an additional 1 minute to the
gentlewoman from Delaware.
Ms. BLUNT ROCHESTER. Mr. Speaker, if we are truly serious, then we
will come to the table. But when the table is set in stone, then we
don't get an opportunity to really work on those things that will
support the American people.
The other piece that was disappointing to me is, I came to this as a
person who wanted to be on this committee because of its bipartisan
nature and that the American people are waiting and watching to see us
come together for them. This is a loss of confidence, and it is also a
missed opportunity.
I am excited and hopeful that we will come together because the
people are watching.
Mr. Speaker, I include in the Record a letter that I wrote to
Secretary Perdue, because there were a lot of questions and assumptions
that were never answered even in our markup.
Congress of the United States,
House of Representatives,
Washington, DC, May 11, 2018.
Hon. Sonny Perdue,
Secretary of Agriculture, U.S. Department of Agriculture,
Washington, DC.
Dear Secretary Perdue: I am writing to request that the
U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) respond to my inquiries
regarding H.R. 2, the Agriculture and Nutrition Act of 2018,
which is also known as the Farm Bill. As a member of the
House Committee on Agriculture, I am one of 46 Members
sitting on the committee of jurisdiction for this
legislation. Given the breadth of the proposed changes in the
Farm Bill, I want to take this opportunity to reach out to
the agency that will be responsible for implementing the
provisions in the bill.
During the markup of the Farm Bill on April 18, 2018, my
colleagues on both sides of the aisle were only able to
direct questions to Chairman Conaway. However, I believe it
is essential that we hear from the experts involved in
running these programs to ensure we are advocating for
policies that are evidence-based. As a result, I respectfully
ask that you address the following questions and provide a
timely response.
Workforce Programs
My understanding is that we would need anywhere between
three to five million more slots in workforce training
programs across the country if all eligible SNAP participants
would like to enroll in SNAP Employment and Training (E&T)
programs. The bill would provide a new federal E&T grant of
$1 billion per year to finance the newly mandated work
program, which comes out to less than $30 per person per
month. Upon what evidence and or best practices has this
number been arrived at? Does the USDA believe this is
sufficient? If not, what does the USDA think is sufficient to
implement a meaningful workforce development program and move
people into work?
The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) analysis says it
would take a decade to set up a program for everyone to get a
work slot. If state E&T costs are greater than their annual
federal grant, will states bear the additional costs
associated with operating the work programs? What breakdown
does USDA expect in administration expenses between job
training, IT, administrative costs, and other programs? What
are the ramifications for states of not fully implementing
their work programs?
What additional capacity would USDA require to oversee this
new work program? Would states experience increased
administrative costs under this proposal?
When specifically will we hear the results from the 2014
Farm Bill SNAP E&T Pilot Projects? Under current law, what
are your expectations for sharing these findings and building
them into USDA oversight of state E&T? If H.R. 2 were to be
enacted as proposed, when will you be able to incorporate the
findings from the pilot projects into the SNAP program, based
on how this bill is written?
I appreciate your timely consideration and the work you do
for farmers, families, and communities across the country.
Sincerely,
Lisa Blunt Rochester,
Committee Member,
House Committee on Agriculture.
Mr. WOODALL. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, I agree very much with what my friend had to say. She
may be a freshman, but she has got a lot of experience working in
departments of labor putting people to work, and I think that is a goal
that we all share.
And, again, it is a missed opportunity. Undeniably, that is true, and
there is lots of blame to go around about why it is a missed
opportunity. Again, my friend from Massachusetts and I, we are going to
go back up to the Rules Committee this afternoon. We are going to make
some more amendments in order. We are going to work harder to try to
perfect this bill.
But walking away from the table has consequences. Setting lines in
stone has consequences. We are not going to get the best work product
in this Chamber when anybody walks away from the table. I am just going
to stipulate that is true. We never ever will.
But while my friend identified that the program benefits the elderly,
the disabled, and children, and she is right, and it does, and I
support that, she didn't mention those able-bodied, healthy, childless
men who also benefit from the program. And we do those men a
disservice, not a service, when we make that benefit available in the
absence of job searching.
Categorical eligibility--we talk about it today like it is a word
that we are hearing for the very first time. As my colleagues who were
here remember, we have already been to the table
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on categorical eligibility. As my friend from Massachusetts referenced,
States that have nothing to lose by giving away Federal money were
gaming the system by giving away a dollar in State benefits so that
folks could qualify for hundreds of dollars in Federal benefits.
Well, we came together in a bipartisan way and said: Hey, that is not
right. That is not right. Folks should have skin in the game. We should
be working at this together. It shouldn't be a giveaway program. It
should be a helping program. We should be making a difference in
people's lives.
We did that in a collaborative way. We can come back and tell the
story differently today, but we remember coming together and doing
that, and we can come together and do that again, Mr. Speaker. This
isn't going to be our last opportunity. We are going to have another
opportunity.
Nothing goes to the President's desk unless we get 10 Democrats in
the United States Senate to get on board and do it. Collaboration is
not the exception. It is the rule to get things to the President's desk
and to pass new laws of the land.
I wish we could talk more about what those successes are, how we
found those successes in the past, and how we remain committed to
finding those successes again in the future.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, may I ask how much time I have left.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Massachusetts has 4\1/2\
minutes remaining. The gentleman from Georgia has 10 minutes remaining.
Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, I include in the Record a letter from the
Consortium for Citizens with Disabilities, who are very strongly
opposed to this farm bill.
Consortium for Citizens
With Disabilities,
Washington, DC, May 7, 2018.
Re H.R. 2, Agriculture and Nutrition Act of 2018 (Farm Bill).
Hon. Paul Ryan,
Speaker, House of Representatives,
Washington, DC.
Hon. Nancy Pelosi,
Minority Leader, House of Representatives,
Washington, DC.
Dear Speaker Ryan and Leader Pelosi, The undersigned
members of the Consortium for Citizens with Disabilities
(CCD) urge you to continue the longstanding bipartisan
commitment to protect and strengthen the Supplemental
Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) by rejecting proposals to
restrict eligibility, reduce benefits, cap or reduce funding,
or make harmful structural changes to SNAP in the Farm Bill.
CCD is the largest coalition of national organizations
working together to advocate for federal public policy that
ensures the self-determination, independence, empowerment,
integration and inclusion of children and adults with
disabilities in all aspects of society.
In the United States, all too often food insecurity and
disability go together. Families that include people with
disabilities are two to three times more likely to experience
food insecurity than families that have no members with
disabilities. Similarly, people experiencing food insecurity
have increased likelihood of chronic illness and disability.
SNAP is vitally important for people with disabilities and
their families. By increasing access to adequate, nutritious
food SNAP plays a key role in reducing hunger and helping
people with disabilities to maximize their health and
participate in their communities.
Using an inclusive definition of ``disability,'' in 2015 an
estimated 11 million people with disabilities of all ages
received SNAP, representing roughly one in four SNAP
participants.
Roughly 4.4 million households with non-elderly adults with
disabilities received SNAP in 2016.
Non-elderly adults with disabilities who receive SNAP have
very low incomes, averaging only about $12,000 per year in
2016.
SNAP benefits are extremely modest, averaging $187 per
month for non-elderly people with disabilities in 2016--or
just $6 per day.
Existing SNAP time limits are harsh, unfair, and harm many
people with disabilities and their families by cutting off
essential food assistance. Federal law currently limits SNAP
eligibility for adults between the ages of 18 to 49 without
dependents to just three months out of every three years--
unless they can engage in work or job training activities at
least half time, or qualify for an exemption. These
provisions cut off food assistance at a time when people need
it most and do not result in increased employment and
earnings. At least 500,000 low-income individuals nationwide
lost SNAP in 2016 due to this time limit.
Many people with disabilities are already hurt by SNAP time
limits, despite existing exemptions for people who receive
governmental or private benefits on the basis of a disability
or are able to document that they are ``physically or
mentally unfit for employment.''
For example, in a study of SNAP participants subject to
time limits referred to participate in work activities in
Franklin County, Ohio, one-third reported a ``physical or
mental limitation''.
Cutting off food assistance from SNAP would only make it
harder for people to work and increase their economic self-
sufficiency. We strongly oppose any action that would cut off
or reduce SNAP benefits, narrow eligibility, or force more
people to navigate harsh and unnecessary program rules,
including people with disabilities and their families.
In particular, we are concerned that the Farm Bill advanced
by the House Committee on Agriculture on April 18, 2018
includes a number of provisions that would harm people with
disabilities and their families. Small increases in the
proposed bill are insufficient to make up for significant
benefit reductions.
New work requirements with highly punitive rules would cut
off SNAP benefits for many people--including in families with
children, adults, and seniors with disabilities. It may seem
simple to assert that ``people with disabilities will be
exempt,'' but converting such a statement into an effective
policy process is complicated, expensive, and fundamentally
flawed. Many people with disabilities receive SNAP, but do
not meet SNAP's statutory definitions of ``disability'' or
have not been so identified. Under SNAP, states have no
obligation to help people prove they are exempt, even if they
have difficulty obtaining the necessary records or
verification from a doctor. In addition, states are under no
obligation to ensure that people with disabilities have
access to the full array of services they might need to
work--such as accessible transportation, supported
employment, and personal care aide services. People with
disabilities often want to work, but need additional supports
and services to obtain and keep jobs, in addition to facing
discrimination and misconceptions about their ability to
work.
Underfunded work programs would be woefully inadequate to
meet training needs. Proposed new investments in SNAP
employment and training programs--funded in large part by
benefit cuts--amount to only about $30 per person per month.
This amount would be grossly insufficient to provide adequate
employment services for people subject to proposed new work
requirements, including jobseekers with disabilities.
New reporting requirements would create major hurdles to
benefits. Proposed new reporting requirements related to
eligibility, employment and training, and time limits would
be extremely difficult for many people with disabilities to
navigate and comply with. For example, ending a decades-old
simplification measure and instead requiring people to share
utility bills with the SNAP office--or else, see their
benefits reduced--is harsh, unnecessary, and burdensome both
for SNAP participants and states.
If Congress wishes to explore meaningful opportunities for
SNAP participants to increase self-sufficiency through
employment, we recommend awaiting the results of the
Employment & Training pilot projects authorized under the
2014 Farm Bill. The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA)
awarded pilot grants in 2015, all 10 state programs are
operational, and evaluation activities will operate through
2021. Already, a number of pilot states have cited multiple
barriers faced by participants, including ``health issues.''
It will be important for USDA and the evaluators to carefully
explore the experiences and outcomes of people with
disabilities and their families in these pilot programs.
Congress should await the final pilot evaluations before
considering any changes in these areas.
We call on you to reject proposals that would weaken SNAP's
effectiveness as our nation's foremost anti-hunger program by
limiting access, reducing benefits, or creating
administrative hurdles. We urge all Members to vote no on the
Agriculture and Nutrition Act of 2018 as approved by the
Agriculture Committee on April 18, and instead to work on a
bipartisan basis to strengthen and protect SNAP as part of
the Farm Bill.
Sincerely,
CCD members:
ACCSES, Allies for Independence, American Association of
People with Disabilities, American Association on Health and
Disability, American Diabetes Association, American
Foundation for the Blind, American Network of Community
Options and Resources (ANCOR), American Psychological
Association, Association of University Centers on
Disabilities (AUCD), Autism Society, Autistic Self Advocacy
Network, Bazelon Center for Mental Health Law, Brain Injury
Association of America, Center for Public Representation,
Christopher & Dana Reeve Foundation, Community Legal Services
of Philadelphia, Council of Administrators of Special
Education, Disability Rights Education & Defense Fund,
Division for Early Childhood of the Council for Exceptional
Children (DEC), Easterseals.
Epilepsy Foundation, Institute for Educational Leadership,
The Jewish Federations of North America, Justice in Aging,
Lutheran Services in America Disability Network, National
Alliance on Mental Illness, National Association of Councils
on Developmental Disabilities, National Association of State
Directors of Special Education (NASDSE), National Association
of State
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Head Injury Administrators, National Committee to Preserve
Social Security and Medicare, National Disability Institute,
National Disability Rights Network, National Down Syndrome
Congress, National Organization of Social Security Claimants'
Representatives (NOSSCR), School Social Work Association of
America, SourceAmerica, TASH, The Arc of the United States,
United Spinal Association.
Joined by:
Lakeshore Foundation.
Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman from
Michigan (Mrs. Lawrence).
Mrs. LAWRENCE. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to speak out against this
terrible farm bill.
Mr. Speaker, we were working together, Democrats and Republicans, to
work on a farm bill. Unfortunately, the Republicans are putting all of
our constituents in danger by making this bill purely a political
agenda.
At the last minute, after working together and reaching consensus,
the Republicans decided to include major devastating cuts to SNAP, or
food stamps, instead of helping rural and urban Americans.
This bill cuts SNAP by $23 billion, which will kick 1 million
households off the program. The bill will also kick 265,000 kids out of
free school meals and reduce benefits for millions of families.
In Michigan 1.3 million people rely on SNAP and it keeps 141,000
children out of poverty. This bill includes so many other programs in
my district.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The time of the gentlewoman has expired.
Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, I yield an additional 30 seconds to the
gentlewoman from Michigan.
Mrs. LAWRENCE. Mr. Speaker, my district supports urban farmers and
food banks so our farmers and people can thrive. We should not put all
of this in danger.
Mr. Speaker, I call on Republicans today to stop, to remove this
terrible proposal for SNAP with this poisonous bill.
Mr. WOODALL. Mr. Speaker, I continue to reserve the balance of my
time.
Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, I include in the Record a statement from
No Kid Hungry, Share Our Strength, an initiative strongly opposed to
this bill.
[From No Kid Hungry, May 15, 2018]
Congress Must Vote No on Farm Bill
Washington, DC.--This week the House of Representatives
will vote on the Agriculture and Nutrition Act of 2018 (H.R.
2), also known as the Farm Bill. The following is a statement
from Share Our Strength's Senior Vice President Lisa Davis
about the harmful impact the bill would have on struggling
families in America. Share Our Strength officially opposes
the bill.
``This week, the House of Representatives will vote on the
Farm Bill. On balance, this bill will ultimately increase
poverty and hunger in the United States and Share Our
Strength cannot support it.
Thirteen million children today are growing up in families
that worry about hunger. Even more live in families on the
brink, just one lost job, one medical emergency, one broken
water heater away from hunger. Consider:
A study by the Federal Reserve shows that nearly half of
all Americans couldn't come up with $400 for an emergency
expense.
Another study from the National Center for Children in
Poverty shows that nearly half of all children in the United
States live ``dangerously close'' to the poverty line. 6 in
10 Americans will spend at least one year of their lives in
poverty.
And in another survey recently conducted on behalf of No
Kid Hungry, two-thirds of low-income parents said they would
not be able to afford enough food for their families if they
were hit with a single, unplanned expense of $1,500.
These are families trying to do their best to survive.
These are the families we all know. It's the single working
mom in California, worried about whether to pay the
electricity bill or pay for groceries this month. It's the
grandmother trying to raise her grandkids in Appalachia. And
it's the military veteran trying to find enough work hours to
support his son in Central Pennsylvania.
And while this legislation includes some needed
improvements to the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program
(SNAP), such as increasing asset limits and indexing them to
inflation, these changes are significantly outweighed by
harmful ones, such as eliminating Broad Based Categorical
Eligibility (BBCE) and increasing administrative burdens on
states and imposing penalties on adults who are unable to
comply with the expanded work requirements in a given month.
We believe a good job is the best pathway out of poverty,
but there is little reason to think the policies in this Farm
Bill will increase employment. It imposes harsh penalties on
beneficiaries who drop below the required number of hours in
a month, locking them out of SNAP for a full year the first
time and 3 years if it happens again. imagine a single mom
barely getting 20 hours of work a week whose child gets strep
throat or the flu. Or the rural dad whose car breaks down. Or
the 55-year-old house cleaner whose back goes out.
This is all counterintuitive. Adding hurdles and punitive
restrictions won't help people find jobs or get back on their
feet. But it will increase hunger and hardship for many
families.
In addition, the Congressional Budget Office also reports
that this legislation will lead to more than 265,000 kids
losing free school meals during the school year, a double
whammy for poor, working families. Research demonstrates the
deep connections between hunger and health, particularly for
children. When kids don't get the fuel they need to nourish
their developing minds and bodies, they are more likely to
get sick and do poorly in school, and they are much less
likely to access a future free from poverty.
We urge members of the House of Representatives to take a
stand for children and families and oppose this
legislation.''
ABOUT NO KID HUNGRY
No child should go hungry in America, but 1 in 5 kids will
face hunger this year. Using proven, practical solutions, No
Kid Hungry is ending childhood hunger today by ensuring that
kids start the day with a nutritious breakfast, are able to
get the nutrition they need during the summertime, and
families learn the skills they need to shop and cook on a
budget. When we all work together, we can make sure kids get
the healthy food they need. No Kid Hungry is a campaign of
national anti-hunger organization Share Our Strength.
Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, I include in the Record a letter from a
coalition of over 60 child advocacy organizations opposed to the bill.
May 9, 2018.
Dear Representative: As child advocates in the areas of
hunger and nutrition, poverty, health, welfare, housing, and
education, we are writing to express our opposition to the
Agriculture and Nutrition Act of 2018 (H.R. 2), which will
harm the millions of children who rely on federal nutrition
programs, including the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance
Program (SNAP) for access to consistent, healthy food. In the
interests of our nation's babies, children and youth we
strongly urge you to vote NO on H.R. 2.
SNAP is a proven anti-hunger and anti-poverty program for
children, which also lowers the odds of household and child
food insecurity, and of children's anemia, poor health,
hospitalization for failure to thrive, and developmental
delays. Research has also found that receiving SNAP in early
childhood improved high school graduation rates, adult
earnings, and adult health. Today, nearly 20 million children
participate in SNAP, representing 44 percent of the program's
recipients and receiving nearly half of every SNAP dollar. In
addition, school breakfast and lunch programs provide many of
these same children a nutritious morning and lunchtime meal
each day. Because children experience both poverty and food
insecurity at higher rates than the general population,
federal nutrition programs such as SNAP and school meals are
critical supports that help them develop, learn, and succeed.
To that end, we are very concerned about the impact H.R. 2
would have on our nation's children. In fact, several
provisions in the Nutrition Title of H.R. 2 directly threaten
access to vital nutrition programs for the countless children
and youth that we represent:
Drastic Program Eligibility Changes: H.R. 2 Makes several
harmful changes to state options that simplify SNAP
eligibility requirements to improve access to SNAP for poor
and low-income families with children. These changes would:
Expose Low-Income Children to a SNAP ``Benefit Cliff'':
H.R. 2 eliminates Broad Based Categorical Eligibility (BBCE),
which gives states additional flexibility and efficiency in
granting SNAP eligibility. This change will reinstate a
benefit cliff in a majority of states, jeopardizing food
assistance for 400,000 households who are scraping by on
earnings just above 130 percent of the Federal poverty line.
Undermine the Ability of Poor and Low-Income Families with
Children to Build Savings: Similarly, the virtual elimination
by
H.R. 2 of Categorical Eligibility will mean many states will
have to introduce a counterproductive and costly process of
asset testing for SNAP eligibility. As a result, H.R. 2 would
cause many families to lose eligibility solely because of red
tape, and force other families choose between meeting their
basic need for food and building up the savings and resources
that would help them achieve economic mobility.
Threaten Poor and Low-Income Children's Access to School
Meals: Under current law, children who receive SNAP are
directly certified for free school meal programs. These meals
help combat childhood hunger, while playing an important role
in improving academic achievement and test scores and
reducing absenteeism, tardiness, and discipline referrals. By
forcing families off of SNAP due to changes in categorical
eligibility, H.R. 2 would break this vital link between SNAP
receipt and school meals for low-income and poor children. As
a result, some 265,000 children stand to lose access to free
school meals.
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Undermine SNAP benefits for Poor and Low-Income Children
Whose Families Rely on the Low-Income Home Energy Assistance
Program (LIHEAP): LIHEAP is a program that helps low-income
households afford their monthly utility bills. Under current
law, some states allow households to use LIHEAP benefits
greater than $20/month as proof of significant energy
expenses, creating a streamlined method for families to
access a modest increase in their SNAP benefit. However, H.R.
2 removes this option for households that do not have an
elderly member, effectively requiring poor and low-income
families with children to provide substantial documentation
of energy bills on a frequent basis for caseworkers to
determine their utility allowance, which could discourage
them from seeking the larger benefit or decrease its size.
Harsh Work Requirements: Under current law, existing SNAP
work requirements aimed at childless adults already have
unintended and harmful consequences for children (for
instance, those who rely on pooled resources from extended
family and Non-Custodial Parents) and youth (such as those
aging out of foster care.) Yet in spite of limited supporting
evidence, H.R. 2 intensifies and expands work requirements,
reduces state flexibilities for exemptions, and requires
states to implement costly training and employment programs
that will take funds from food benefits to support a
bureaucracy that will not provide quality services to people.
The consequences of these changes could be devastating for
countless children and youth, including:
The 13.4 million school-aged children on SNAP: H.R. 2 takes
the unprecedented step of expanding work requirements to
adults with school-aged children. This provision risks the
wellbeing of children whose parents or guardians are: 1)
acting as a caretaker for a loved one such as a child with a
disability; 2) have physical or mental health disabilities
that don't qualify as a disability under the legal
definition; 3) face substantial barriers to work, including
substance abuse issues or domestic violence; 4) working but
struggling to meet the 20 hour per week threshold or the
burdensome documentation requirements; and 5) have difficulty
obtaining childcare or transportation. For these parents or
guardians, losing SNAP translates to a benefit cut for their
whole household, meaning there will be less food on the table
for their children. Some parents and guardians may also
erroneously believe that their inability to meet these new
work requirements makes their children ineligible for SNAP as
well, and as a result opt out of applying for or renewing
benefits for the entire family.
In addition, children in very vulnerable families may be
impacted by the new requirements, such as:
Children in the Care of Grandparents: Today, more than 2.5
million children are being raised by their grandparents or
other relatives, in part because families are dealing with
parental alcohol and substance abuse issues, which are
growing rapidly due to the opioid epidemic. And already,
these families face barriers to accessing the full array of
benefits and services they need. H.R. 2 would further
threaten the ability of grandparents and other older
relatives to care for children because it expands work
requirements for adults up to age 60 who are caring for
children over six years of age.
Children in Families with a History of Family Violence:
H.R. 2 requires parents fleeing family violence with their
children to meet the new work requirements unless they
receive a state exemption. In addition, H.R. 2 requires
parents to cooperate with state Child Support Enforcement
(CSE) efforts in order receive SNAP benefits--a drastic
change from current law, under which 45 states, DC, and the
Virgin Islands have declined to link the two. Yet H.R. 2
effectively eliminates existing state flexibility around CSE
cooperation, meaning parents who would like to apply for SNAP
but are afraid of CSE requirements which would link them to
their abusers are forced to choose between safety and feeding
their children.
Children in Military and Veteran Families: Many veteran and
military families need help feeding themselves and their
children. Today, households that include a veteran with a
disability are nearly twice as likely to lack access to
adequate food as households that do not include someone with
a disability, and sadly, food insecurity rates are nearly
double among post-9/11 veterans. Furthermore, currently-
serving military families often experience food insecurity
because of financial emergencies, low pay, and crisis levels
of chronic unemployment or underemployment of military
spouses in a society where most families need dual incomes to
live. By subjecting these parents, including those suffering
from PTSD, to the new work requirements, H.R. 2 penalizes
families in need who have already sacrificed so much for our
nation.
Youth aging out of foster care and unaccompanied, homeless
youth: Youth aging out of foster care often face various
challenges, including homelessness, difficulty affording
education, and finding employment. Unaccompanied homeless
youth and young adults (who lack safe stable housing and who
are not in the care of a parent or guardian) experience
similar difficulties, especially when they reach age 18.
Existing SNAP work requirements already create a substantial
barrier for these young people from accessing food
assistance, because they technically meet the definition of a
childless adult. Under the harsh requirements in H.R. 2,
these vulnerable young adults will face even larger obstacles
to food assistance.
The Farm Bill represents an important opportunity for
policy solutions that will strengthen and improve nutrition
programs for our nation's children. Instead, H.R. 2 is slated
to reduce spending on SNAP benefits by more than $20 billion
over 10 years and will disproportionately hurt children
through its harmful provisions. We urge you to protect our
nation's children and vote NO on H.R. 2.
Thank you for your time and attention.
Signed,
1,000 Days, African American Health Alliance, Afterschool
Alliance, American Academy of Pediatrics, Arizona Council of
Human Service Providers, Association of Farmworker
Opportunity Programs, Campaign for Youth Justice, Center for
Law and Social Policy (CLASP), Child Care Aware of America,
Child Labor Coalition, Child Welfare League of America,
Children's Defense Fund, Children's Leadership Council,
Children's Advocacy Institute, Coalition on Human Needs,
Covenant House International, Division for Early Childhood of
the Council for Exceptional Children (DEC), Every Child
Matters, Families USA, Family Focused Treatment Association.
Family Focused Treatment Association, First Five Years
Fund, First Focus Campaign for Children, Food Research &
Action Center, Forum for Youth Investment, Generations
United, Healthy Teen Network, Jumpstart, Lutheran Services in
America, Methodist Children's Home Society, MomsRising,
National Alliance of Children's Trust & Prevention Funds,
National Association for Family Child Care, National
Association for the Education of Young Children, National
Association of Counsel for Children, National Center on
Adoption and Permanency, National Consumers League, National
Council of Jewish Women, National Diaper Bank Network,
National Health Law Program.
National Human Services Assembly, National Indian Child
Welfare Association, National Migrant Seasonal Head Start
Association, National Network for Youth, National PTA,
National Urban League, National WIC Association, National
Women's Law Center, Oral Health America, Parents as Teachers,
Partnership for America's Children, PolicyLink, Prosperity
Now, Public Advocacy for Kids, Racial and Ethnic Health
Disparities Coalition.
RESULTS, Sargent Shriver National Center on Poverty Law,
SchoolHouse Connection, Share Our Strength, Social Advocates
for Youth San Diego, SparkAction, StandUp For Kids, The
Criminalization of Poverty Project at the Institute for
Policy Studies, The National Association for Bilingual
Education, The W. Haywood Burns Institute, UnidosUS, Western
Regional Advocacy Project, Youth Villages, YWCA USA.
Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, I include in the Record a letter from the
National Education Association strongly opposed to this bill.
National Education Association,
Washington, DC, May 15, 2018.
Dear Representative: On behalf of the three million members
of the National Education Association and the 50 million
students they serve, we strongly urge you to VOTE NO on the
Agriculture and Nutrition Act of 2018 (H.R. 2) and oppose any
amendments that further weaken the Supplemental Nutrition
Assistance Program. This bill makes unnecessary changes to
eligibility requirements that could reduce the number of
students certified for free school meals. The bill also
imposes additional work requirements for adults that will
make it harder for some people to get or keep critical
nutrition benefits. Votes associated with this issue may be
included in NEA's Report Card for the 115th Congress.
The Farm Bill, as this reauthorization is commonly known,
provides funding for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance
Program (SNAP), which is our nation's largest anti-hunger
program. By providing monthly benefits to eligible low-income
people to purchase food, SNAP plays a critical role in
reducing hunger, malnutrition, and poverty, and improving
family security, child and adult health, and employment. SNAP
reaches key vulnerable populations--78 percent of SNAP
households include a child, an elderly person, or a person
with disabilities; 84 percent of all SNAP benefits go to such
households. SNAP lifted 3.6 million Americans out of poverty
in 2016, according to the Census Bureau's Supplemental
Poverty Measure. By providing much needed economic support,
SNAP allows families to have sufficient nutrition during
times of unemployment, fluctuating incomes, and low-wage
work.
Children living in households that receive SNAP benefits
are eligible to receive free school meals. The healthy meals
that low-income children receive at school fight hunger,
improve academic performance, and help reduce absenteeism,
tardiness, and discipline referrals. According to the Food
Research and Action Center, linking children in SNAP
households to school meals is so important that Congress
required all school districts participating in the National
School Lunch Program to directly certify their students for
free school meals.
H.R. 2 undermines the important link between SNAP and free
school meals in the 28 states that have chosen a broad based
categorical eligibility option under current
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rules that expands SNAP eligibility to assist working
families that still struggle to make ends meet. According to
the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities (CBPP), this could
impact as many as 265,000 students nationwide. While students
could apply for school meals via a burdensome paper process,
there is no guarantee that they will still be eligible for
the program or recertified in a timely manner. This would
cost their families even more when they have just lost SNAP
benefits. Further, this puts an enormous administrative
burden on schools to revert to a costly paper-based system,
Direct Certification for SNAP also provides the foundation
for the Community Eligibility Provision, a hugely successful
option that allows over 20,000 high-poverty schools to offer
free breakfast and lunch to their students. The provision
eliminates the need for schools to collect and process school
meal applications, which allows schools to focus on providing
healthy and appealing meals instead of processing paperwork.
Schools are eligible to implement community eligibility if at
least 40 percent of their students are certified to receive
free school meals without submitting an application.
Reducing the number of students who are directly certified
by changing the rules for broad-based categorical eligibility
means that fewer schools will be eligible to implement
community eligibility, and many schools that are eligible
will find that it is no longer financially viable, because
fewer of their meals would be reimbursed at the free rate.
This would increase unnecessary paperwork for schools and
inhibit student success.
The proposed changes in H.R. 2 to broad-based categorical
eligibility will result in working families losing much
needed food benefits. It also means that their children could
lose free school meals, amplifying the negative impact of the
cut. It will mean more children go hungry at home as well as
at school.
The bill further imposes aggressive new work requirements,
which are unnecessary, unworkable and likely to do more harm
than good. It would require SNAP participants ages 18 through
59 who are not disabled or raising a child under 6 to prove--
every month--that they're working at least 20 hours a week,
participating at least 20 hours a week in a work program, or
a combination of the two. These new requirements would force
states to develop large new bureaucracies that would need to
track millions of SNAP recipients, but likely would do little
to boost employment, particularly given that the new funding
provided in the bill for job training and work slots would
amount to just $30 per month for those recipients who need a
work slot to retain SNAP benefits, according to the CBPP.
Further, the requirements would leave low-income people with
barriers to employment--such as limited job skills or family
members with illness--with neither earnings nor food
assistance.
We also have particular concern about amendments filed for
Rules Committee consideration that would undermine the
nutrition guidelines for school meals programs. These
guidelines are currently being implemented in schools, and
have already led to increased fruit and vegetable consumption
by students. Good nutrition is particularly important for
students from low-income families, who may eat as many as
half of their calories every day at school. Additionally,
USDA has only recently published an interim rule for school
meals that provides additional flexibility on the guidelines
for schools. These amendments would only add uncertainty to
this process and threaten the nutritional quality of the
meals offered to students.
We urge you to oppose any amendments that could threaten
mandatory safety net programs beyond SNAP, such as Medicaid,
Medicare, Social Security, and Temporary Assistance for Needy
Families.
The bill further includes $65 million in loans and grants
administered by the Department of Agriculture to support
Association Health Plans (AHP) offered through organizations
that will eliminate coverage of essential health benefits
(categories of care). These plans may appear to be a less
expensive option than current small group market plans that
include comprehensive coverage and consumer protections.
However, in light of recently proposed rules, AHPs will soon
not be required to cover services such as prescription drugs,
mental health and maternity care leading to insufficient and
inadequate care for children and adults.
We strongly urge you to Vote No on the Farm Bill, any
amendments aimed at weakening the healthy guidelines for
school meals, and any amendments that make it even more
difficult for SNAP participants to receive critical nutrition
benefits.
Sincerely,
Marc Egan,
Director of Government Relations,
National Education Association.
Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from New
York (Mr. Engel).
Mr. ENGEL. Mr. Speaker, I thank my colleague, and I rise in
opposition to the rule. SNAP is a lifeline for 40 million low-income
Americans and millions of working families. It is the most effective
antihunger program in the country.
It is a proven pathway out of poverty for America's most vulnerable
families, and yet, instead of protecting successful programs like SNAP,
this cruel bill would take over $23 billion in benefits away from
children, seniors, veterans, individuals with disabilities, and working
families struggling to make ends meet.
My colleagues on the other side of the aisle argue that the
requirements in this farm bill would help people find work. But if they
are really interested in promoting jobs that allow people to care for
themselves and their families, I would invite them to consider
legislation to raise the minimum wage, ensure fair work scheduling,
provide paid family and medical leave and paid sick days, and address
basic living standards.
Instead, we are considering a callous farm bill that cuts benefits
for those who need it most in order to pay for massive handouts to
corporations in the top 1 percent. I urge my colleagues to vote against
this rule.
Mr. WOODALL. Mr. Speaker, I continue to reserve the balance of my
time.
Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, may I ask how much time I have left.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Massachusetts has 2
minutes remaining.
Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, it is a privilege to serve on the Agriculture Committee.
I am the ranking member in the Nutrition Subcommittee, and I sat
through 23 hearings. I heard Republican witnesses and Democratic
witnesses, and all of them said the same thing: the SNAP program is
important; don't mess around with it.
I didn't hear anybody--anybody hint at embracing what is in this farm
bill under the nutrition title, a title, by the way, which I, as the
ranking member of the Nutrition Subcommittee, didn't even see until it
was made public.
My friend from Georgia talks about bipartisanship. I mean, give me a
break. I mean, you can say it all you want, but the bottom line is that
it doesn't exist in the Agriculture Committee. The process was
offensive, and even more offensive is what the end product is going to
do to vulnerable people in this country.
You know, this is not a debate about able-bodied adults who aren't
working. You know, that is a very complicated population. I actually
asked for a hearing on that population, and I was denied that right.
You ought to know who this population is. It is a complicated
population.
Many of these able-bodied adults without dependents who are not
working or who are not in the job training programs are our veterans
returning from Iraq and Afghanistan having difficulty reintegrating in
the community; they are young people graduating out of foster care;
they are people with undiagnosed mental illnesses. If we did a hearing,
you would know who this population is. This is more than a press
release.
I am sick and tired of people being stereotyped all the time. And by
the way, you punish people who are working. You know, by eliminating
broad-based categorical eligibility, there are people right now who are
working, who make, you know, between $50,800 a year and maybe $24,000 a
year, they work, and they get this benefit to put food on the table.
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And yet you are making changes that will deny them that benefit. They
are working. You say you want to reward work. Well, what are you
thinking when you take this nutrition benefit away from these people,
who are doing everything right. When you take this SNAP benefit away
from adults, you are taking it away from their children as well. And
you heard over and over and over again that when people lose their SNAP
benefit, their kids lose access to a free breakfast and lunch at
school. This is awful.
Send this bill back to committee. Vote ``no'' on this rule.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The time of the gentleman has expired.
Mr. WOODALL. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
I told you when we started this debate, Mr. Speaker, you were going
to hear some passion from my friend from Massachusetts because he is,
in fact, passionate. He is a public servant, and he serves his
constituency well.
But I want to read to you from Politico, one of our Washington, D.C.,
newspapers, that follows what goes on here
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in politics. I don't sit on the Agriculture Committee, as my friend
from Massachusetts does, but Politico reported this, as talks around
the farm bill broke down in March:
Bipartisan negotiations over the farm bill stopped--
There were bipartisan negotiations. Those negotiations stopped, Mr.
Speaker.
Thursday afternoon, after House Agriculture Committee
ranking member Collin Peterson--
The ranking Democrat.
--faced pressure from fellow Democrats, who complained that
discussions about changes to the food stamp program were
being kept secret.
My friend from Massachusetts mentioned that. I have that same
frustration on committees that I serve, Mr. Speaker. Very often, the
chairman of the committee, who is a Republican, and the ranking member,
who is a Democrat, and their subcommittee chairmen very often they get
together and have negotiations before rank-and-file Members get
involved. It happens, and I am frustrated about it, and my friend from
Massachusetts is frustrated about it.
The development--
Politico goes on to say.
--is a considerable blow to the sweeping bill, which was seen
by many as one of the only real chances for bipartisanship in
this Congress. Congress is supposed to reauthorize the farm
bill every 5 years, but political wrangling has threatened
its fate. Current law expires September 30.
Peterson's decision--
Collin Peterson is the ranking Democrat.
--to pause talks comes after House Democrats demanded that he
stop negotiations until the text of the bill is made to
everyone.
The Democratic Members have made clear that they unanimously oppose
the farm bill's SNAP language as it has been described to them or
reported in the press.
Well, Mr. Speaker, if when you hear things you don't like, or see
things you don't like, you leave the negotiating table, I promise you
we are going to get a worse result every single time.
I go up to this Rules Committee, right up here on the third floor,
and we debate and talk and debate and talk and debate and talk hour
upon hour upon hour, late into the evening, often into the next
morning. I hear things I don't like. I hear people say things I know
are not true. But I don't pick up my toys and go home. I stay at the
table, I debate the issues, and I work through the issues. If it was
easy, someone would have done it before this Congress got here. All
that is left is hard.
My friend from Massachusetts is absolutely right, Mr. Speaker. He is
absolutely right. He is absolutely right. If we are to reform the
social safety net, we are going to have to expand benefits, not
restrict them. He is absolutely right. But if we can't stay at the
table to have that conversation, we are never going to bring people
together to get that done.
You can't blame people who follow their self-interest. If the rule
says you don't have to work, you don't have to work. If the rule says
if you work too much, you will lose your benefits, then you don't work
too much. That is crazy to encourage people to stay home.
You ought to be encouraging people to seek that next promotion, take
on those extra hours, work that overtime. That has always been who we
are and what we have done, and we have not taken on that challenge in
welfare reform. I believe we can. I believe we can.
I need my colleagues to support this rule today. I need them to
support the rule so we can bring up not just the farm bill, so that we
can bring up the VA MISSION Act, a bipartisan, bicameral bill that will
go to the President's desk and change the lives of veterans.
I need my colleagues to support this rule, not just so we can bring
up the farm bill, not just so we can bring up the VA MISSION Act, but
so that we can make the harming or threatening the harm of a law
enforcement officer a Federal crime, to give the men and women who wear
blue across this country the protections they deserve.
This is a bipartisan bill, Mr. Speaker, that is going to make a
difference for our constituents back home. These are going to be issues
that get folks exercise, Mr. Speaker. The most difficult issues we take
on always do.
But if we pass this rule and take up this legislation, we will be one
step closer, not just to succeeding for our veterans, not just to
succeeding for our law enforcement officers, not just to succeeding on
behalf of our farmers, but one step closer to taking on what is a
collaborative challenge of how to return the incentives to work to the
American people, while keeping the social safety net strong for all of
the families that depend on it.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time, and I move the
previous question on the resolution.
Parliamentary Inquiry
Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, parliamentary inquiry.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Massachusetts will state
his parliamentary inquiry.
Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, the gentleman from Georgia just
mischaracterized the very partisan process that occurred in the
Agriculture Committee in which Democrats were totally shut out.
I want to know: What are the remedies that we have at this point in
the debate to be able to correct the record so we can correct the
misrepresentations?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman has not stated a parliamentary
inquiry. That is a matter for debate.
Mr. WOODALL. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to reclaim the time
that I have yielded back. I would be happy to yield a portion of it to
my friend.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the
gentleman from Georgia?
There was no objection.
Mr. WOODALL. Mr. Speaker, could I inquire how much time is remaining?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Georgia has 5 minutes
remaining.
Mr. WOODALL. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from
Massachusetts (Mr. McGovern), my friend.
Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, I would say to the gentleman that nobody
walked away from the table; only after we were totally shut out of the
process.
As I mentioned in my opening statement--if the gentleman were paying
attention--the ranking member, Mr. Peterson, actually tried to offer
suggestions and was totally shut out.
I am the ranking member of the Nutrition Subcommittee. You mentioned
the ranking members usually get informed as to what is going on. I
didn't see it until it was made public.
This was the most offensive process I have ever witnessed.
And, by the way, the product in this ag bill--which I don't think the
gentleman has read, based on some of the things he has said--but this
final product does not represent any of the hearings we had.
So this process in the Agriculture Committee, which has been,
historically, probably the most bipartisan committee in the Congress,
was basically thrown into chaos as a result of the behavior of the
majority.
I just say to the gentleman: You can try to spin this all you want,
but the bottom line is that this has never happened before. And Collin
Peterson--I just want to say--is probably the most bipartisan Member of
this House. If you can't strike a bipartisan deal with Collin Peterson,
you can't strike a bipartisan deal with anybody.
But that is not what this was about. This was about advancing an
agenda, quite frankly, that is going to hurt millions of vulnerable
people in this country, and I find it offensive.
Mr. WOODALL. Mr. Speaker, I thank my colleague for granting my
unanimous consent request to reclaim my time. I do believe that we
advantage all of our causes, rather than disadvantage them, by
promoting debate.
But I want to take issue, Mr. Speaker. I didn't mischaracterize
anything. I read the media reporting. I will be the first--when you
want to have the fake news conversation--there is too much fake news in
this country--I will be happy to join you and have that debate with
you. But I didn't mischaracterize a thing.
I agree with what my friend had to say about Collin Peterson from
Minnesota. He is a fabulous Member, who works as hard as he can on
behalf of his constituents to get work done. Nothing in the article I
read said Collin Peterson walked away from the table. Everything in the
article I read said he
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was pressured by his Democratic colleagues to walk away from the table.
Mr. McGOVERN. Will the gentleman yield?
Mr. WOODALL. I will not yield again to my friend. I am going to
close.
I take umbrage at the fact that we would have an opportunity to use
each other's time, and you would use it to continue to say I
mischaracterized, that we would have an opportunity to have a
discussion, and you would continue to use it to say that folks just
aren't as well informed as you are about those issues.
We have opportunities in this Chamber to make things better, and we
have opportunities to make things worse. And I will say to my friend,
Mr. Speaker, if we take advantage of our opportunities to make things
better, I believe that we will. If we take advantage of our
opportunities to make things worse, I am absolutely certain that we
will.
I choose the latter. I choose the latter. A vote in support of this
rule is a vote for the latter.
I am sorry, I am choosing the former. I am choosing the former. My
colleagues out there are saying: Hey, I know Woodall; that is not
right. He is not choosing to make things worse.
I choose the former, Mr. Speaker. I choose the former. A vote for
this rule is a vote for the former.
Mr. Speaker, I apologize to the Chair for my confusion.
The material previously referred to by Mr. McGovern is as follows:
An Amendment to H. Res. 891 Offered by Mr. McGovern
At the end of the resolution, add the following new
sections:
Sec. 4. Immediately upon adoption of this resolution the
Speaker shall, pursuant to clause 2(b) of rule XVIII, declare
the House resolved into the Committee of the Whole House on
the state of the Union for consideration of the bill (H.R.
5805) to designate certain amounts authorized to be
appropriated for the provision by the Secretary of Veterans
Affairs of hospital care and medical services in non-
Department of Veterans Affairs facilities pursuant to
contracts as changes in concepts and definitions for certain
budgetary purposes, and for other purposes. The first reading
of the bill shall be dispensed with. All points of order
against consideration of the bill are waived. General debate
shall be confined to the bill and shall not exceed one hour
equally divided among and controlled by the respective chairs
and ranking minority members of the Committees on Veterans'
Affairs and the Budget. After general debate the bill shall
be considered for amendment under the five-minute rule. All
points of order against provisions in the bill are waived. At
the conclusion of consideration of the bill for amendment the
Committee shall rise and report the bill to the House with
such amendments as may have been adopted. The previous
question shall be considered as ordered on the bill and
amendments thereto to final passage without intervening
motion except one motion to recommit with or without
instructions. If the Committee of the Whole rises and reports
that it has come to no resolution on the bill, then on the
next legislative day the House shall, immediately after the
third daily order of business under clause 1 of rule XIV,
resolve into the Committee of the Whole for further
consideration of the bill.
Sec. 5. Clause 1(c) of rule XIX shall not apply to the
consideration of H.R. 5805.
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The Vote on the Previous Question: What It Really Means
This vote, the vote on whether to order the previous
question on a special rule, is not merely a procedural vote.
A vote against ordering the previous question is a vote
against the Republican majority agenda and a vote to allow
the Democratic minority to offer an alternative plan. It is a
vote about what the House should be debating.
Mr. Clarence Cannon's Precedents of the House of
Representatives (VI, 308-311), describes the vote on the
previous question on the rule as ``a motion to direct or
control the consideration of the subject before the House
being made by the Member in charge.'' To defeat the previous
question is to give the opposition a chance to decide the
subject before the House. Cannon cites the Speaker's ruling
of January 13, 1920, to the effect that ``the refusal of the
House to sustain the demand for the previous question passes
the control of the resolution to the opposition'' in order to
offer an amendment. On March 15, 1909, a member of the
majority party offered a rule resolution. The House defeated
the previous question and a member of the opposition rose to
a parliamentary inquiry, asking who was entitled to
recognition. Speaker Joseph G. Cannon (R-Illinois) said:
``The previous question having been refused, the gentleman
from New York, Mr. Fitzgerald, who had asked the gentleman to
yield to him for an amendment, is entitled to the first
recognition.''
The Republican majority may say ``the vote on the previous
question is simply a vote on whether to proceed to an
immediate vote on adopting the resolution . . . [and] has no
substantive legislative or policy implications whatsoever.''
But that is not what they have always said. Listen to the
Republican Leadership Manual on the Legislative Process in
the United States House of Representatives, (6th edition,
page 135). Here's how the Republicans describe the previous
question vote in their own manual: ``Although it is generally
not possible to amend the rule because the majority Member
controlling the time will not yield for the purpose of
offering an amendment, the same result may be achieved by
voting down the previous question on the rule. . . . When the
motion for the previous question is defeated, control of the
time passes to the Member who led the opposition to ordering
the previous question. That Member, because he then controls
the time, may offer an amendment to the rule, or yield for
the purpose of amendment.''
In Deschler's Procedure in the U.S. House of
Representatives, the subchapter titled ``Amending Special
Rules'' states: ``a refusal to order the previous question on
such a rule [a special rule reported from the Committee on
Rules] opens the resolution to amendment and further
debate.'' (Chapter 21, section 21.2) Section 21.3 continues:
``Upon rejection of the motion for the previous question on a
resolution reported from the Committee on Rules, control
shifts to the Member leading the opposition to the previous
question, who may offer a proper amendment or motion and who
controls the time for debate thereon.''
Clearly, the vote on the previous question on a rule does
have substantive policy implications. It is one of the only
available tools for those who oppose the Republican
majority's agenda and allows those with alternative views the
opportunity to offer an alternative plan.
Mr. WOODALL. Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time, and I
move the previous question on the resolution.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on ordering the previous
question.
The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that
the ayes appeared to have it.
Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.
The yeas and nays were ordered.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to clause 8 and clause 9 of rule
XX, this 15-minute vote on ordering the previous question will be
followed by 5-minute votes on:
Adoption of the resolution, if ordered; and
The motion to suspend the rules on S. 35.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 230,
nays 184, not voting 13, as follows:
[Roll No. 185]
YEAS--230
Abraham
Aderholt
Allen
Amash
Amodei
Arrington
Babin
Bacon
Banks (IN)
Barletta
Barr
Barton
Bergman
Biggs
Bilirakis
Bishop (MI)
Bishop (UT)
Black
Blackburn
Blum
Bost
Brady (TX)
Brat
Brooks (AL)
Brooks (IN)
Buchanan
Buck
Bucshon
Budd
Burgess
Byrne
Calvert
Carter (GA)
Carter (TX)
Chabot
Cheney
Coffman
Cole
Collins (GA)
Collins (NY)
Comer
Comstock
Conaway
Cook
Costello (PA)
Cramer
Crawford
Culberson
Curbelo (FL)
Curtis
Davidson
Davis, Rodney
Denham
DeSantis
DesJarlais
Diaz-Balart
Donovan
Duffy
Duncan (SC)
Duncan (TN)
Dunn
Emmer
Estes (KS)
Faso
Ferguson
Fitzpatrick
Fleischmann
Flores
Fortenberry
Foxx
Frelinghuysen
Gaetz
Gallagher
Garrett
Gianforte
Gibbs
Gohmert
Goodlatte
Gosar
Gowdy
Granger
Graves (GA)
Graves (LA)
Graves (MO)
Griffith
Grothman
Guthrie
Handel
Harper
Harris
Hartzler
Hensarling
Herrera Beutler
Hice, Jody B.
Higgins (LA)
Hill
Holding
Hollingsworth
Hudson
Huizenga
Hultgren
Hunter
Hurd
Issa
Jenkins (KS)
Jenkins (WV)
Johnson (LA)
Johnson (OH)
Johnson, Sam
Jordan
Joyce (OH)
Katko
Kelly (MS)
Kelly (PA)
King (IA)
King (NY)
Kinzinger
Knight
Kustoff (TN)
LaHood
LaMalfa
Lamborn
Lance
Latta
Lesko
Lewis (MN)
LoBiondo
Long
Loudermilk
Love
Lucas
Luetkemeyer
MacArthur
Marchant
Marino
Marshall
Massie
Mast
McCarthy
McCaul
McClintock
McHenry
McKinley
McMorris Rodgers
McSally
Meadows
Messer
Mitchell
Moolenaar
Mooney (WV)
Mullin
Newhouse
Noem
Norman
Nunes
Olson
Palazzo
Palmer
Paulsen
Pearce
Perry
Pittenger
Poe (TX)
Poliquin
Posey
Ratcliffe
Reed
Reichert
Renacci
Rice (SC)
Roby
Roe (TN)
Rogers (AL)
Rohrabacher
Rokita
Rooney, Francis
Rooney, Thomas J.
Ros-Lehtinen
Roskam
Ross
Rothfus
Rouzer
Royce (CA)
Russell
Rutherford
Sanford
Scalise
Schweikert
Scott, Austin
Sensenbrenner
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Sessions
Shimkus
Shuster
Simpson
Smith (MO)
Smith (NE)
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Smucker
Stefanik
Stewart
Stivers
Taylor
Tenney
Thompson (PA)
Thornberry
Tipton
Trott
Turner
Upton
Valadao
Wagner
Walberg
Walden
Walker
Walorski
Walters, Mimi
Weber (TX)
Wenstrup
Westerman
Williams
Wilson (SC)
Wittman
Womack
Woodall
Yoder
Yoho
Young (AK)
Young (IA)
Zeldin
NAYS--184
Adams
Aguilar
Barragan
Bass
Beatty
Bera
Bishop (GA)
Blumenauer
Blunt Rochester
Bonamici
Boyle, Brendan F.
Brady (PA)
Brownley (CA)
Bustos
Butterfield
Capuano
Carbajal
Cardenas
Carson (IN)
Cartwright
Castor (FL)
Castro (TX)
Chu, Judy
Clark (MA)
Clarke (NY)
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Cohen
Connolly
Cooper
Correa
Costa
Courtney
Crist
Crowley
Cuellar
Cummings
Davis (CA)
Davis, Danny
DeFazio
Delaney
DeLauro
DelBene
Demings
DeSaulnier
Deutch
Dingell
Doggett
Doyle, Michael F.
Ellison
Engel
Eshoo
Espaillat
Esty (CT)
Evans
Foster
Frankel (FL)
Fudge
Gallego
Garamendi
Gomez
Gottheimer
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Gutierrez
Hanabusa
Hastings
Heck
Higgins (NY)
Himes
Hoyer
Huffman
Jackson Lee
Jayapal
Jeffries
Johnson, E. B.
Jones
Kaptur
Keating
Kelly (IL)
Kennedy
Khanna
Kihuen
Kildee
Kilmer
Kind
Krishnamoorthi
Kuster (NH)
Lamb
Langevin
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Lawrence
Lawson (FL)
Lee
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lieu, Ted
Lipinski
Loebsack
Lofgren
Lowenthal
Lowey
Lujan Grisham, M.
Lujan, Ben Ray
Lynch
Maloney, Carolyn B.
Maloney, Sean
Matsui
McCollum
McEachin
McGovern
Meeks
Meng
Moore
Moulton
Murphy (FL)
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal
Nolan
Norcross
O'Halleran
O'Rourke
Pallone
Panetta
Pascrell
Payne
Pelosi
Perlmutter
Peters
Peterson
Pingree
Pocan
Polis
Price (NC)
Quigley
Raskin
Rice (NY)
Rosen
Roybal-Allard
Ruiz
Ruppersberger
Ryan (OH)
Sanchez
Sarbanes
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schneider
Schrader
Scott (VA)
Scott, David
Serrano
Sewell (AL)
Shea-Porter
Sherman
Sinema
Sires
Smith (WA)
Soto
Speier
Suozzi
Swalwell (CA)
Takano
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Titus
Tonko
Torres
Tsongas
Vargas
Veasey
Vela
Velazquez
Visclosky
Walz
Wasserman Schultz
Waters, Maxine
Watson Coleman
Welch
Wilson (FL)
Yarmuth
NOT VOTING--13
Beyer
Brown (MD)
Cicilline
DeGette
Gabbard
Gonzalez (TX)
Johnson (GA)
Labrador
McNerney
Richmond
Rogers (KY)
Rush
Webster (FL)
{time} 1449
Mr. SUOZZI changed his vote from ``yea'' to ``nay.''
So the previous question was ordered.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
Stated against:
Mr. CICILLINE. Mr. Speaker, had I been present, I would have voted
``nay'' on rollcall No. 185.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the resolution.
The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that
the ayes appeared to have it.
Recorded Vote
Mrs. TORRES. Mr. Speaker, I demand a recorded vote.
A recorded vote was ordered.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. This is a 5-minute vote.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 229,
noes 185, not voting 13, as follows:
[Roll No. 186]
AYES--229
Abraham
Aderholt
Allen
Amodei
Arrington
Babin
Bacon
Banks (IN)
Barletta
Barr
Barton
Bergman
Biggs
Bilirakis
Bishop (MI)
Bishop (UT)
Black
Blackburn
Blum
Bost
Brady (TX)
Brat
Brooks (AL)
Brooks (IN)
Buchanan
Buck
Bucshon
Budd
Burgess
Byrne
Calvert
Carter (GA)
Carter (TX)
Chabot
Cheney
Coffman
Cole
Collins (GA)
Collins (NY)
Comer
Comstock
Conaway
Cook
Costello (PA)
Cramer
Crawford
Culberson
Curbelo (FL)
Curtis
Davidson
Davis, Rodney
Denham
DeSantis
DesJarlais
Diaz-Balart
Donovan
Duffy
Duncan (SC)
Duncan (TN)
Dunn
Emmer
Estes (KS)
Faso
Ferguson
Fitzpatrick
Fleischmann
Flores
Fortenberry
Foxx
Frelinghuysen
Gaetz
Gallagher
Garrett
Gianforte
Gibbs
Gohmert
Goodlatte
Gosar
Gowdy
Granger
Graves (GA)
Graves (LA)
Graves (MO)
Griffith
Grothman
Guthrie
Handel
Harper
Harris
Hartzler
Hensarling
Herrera Beutler
Hice, Jody B.
Higgins (LA)
Hill
Holding
Hollingsworth
Hudson
Huizenga
Hultgren
Hunter
Hurd
Jenkins (KS)
Jenkins (WV)
Johnson (LA)
Johnson (OH)
Johnson, Sam
Jones
Jordan
Joyce (OH)
Katko
Kelly (MS)
Kelly (PA)
King (IA)
King (NY)
Kinzinger
Knight
Kustoff (TN)
LaHood
LaMalfa
Lamborn
Lance
Latta
Lesko
Lewis (MN)
LoBiondo
Long
Loudermilk
Love
Lucas
Luetkemeyer
MacArthur
Marchant
Marino
Marshall
Massie
Mast
McCarthy
McCaul
McClintock
McHenry
McKinley
McMorris Rodgers
McSally
Meadows
Messer
Mitchell
Moolenaar
Mooney (WV)
Mullin
Newhouse
Noem
Norman
Nunes
Olson
Palazzo
Palmer
Paulsen
Pearce
Perry
Pittenger
Poliquin
Posey
Ratcliffe
Reed
Reichert
Renacci
Rice (SC)
Roby
Roe (TN)
Rogers (AL)
Rohrabacher
Rokita
Rooney, Francis
Rooney, Thomas J.
Ros-Lehtinen
Roskam
Ross
Rothfus
Rouzer
Royce (CA)
Rush
Russell
Rutherford
Sanford
Scalise
Schweikert
Scott, Austin
Sensenbrenner
Sessions
Shimkus
Shuster
Simpson
Smith (MO)
Smith (NE)
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Smucker
Stefanik
Stewart
Stivers
Taylor
Tenney
Thompson (PA)
Thornberry
Tipton
Trott
Turner
Upton
Valadao
Wagner
Walberg
Walden
Walker
Walorski
Walters, Mimi
Weber (TX)
Wenstrup
Westerman
Williams
Wilson (SC)
Wittman
Womack
Woodall
Yoder
Yoho
Young (AK)
Young (IA)
Zeldin
NOES--185
Adams
Aguilar
Amash
Barragan
Bass
Beatty
Bera
Bishop (GA)
Blumenauer
Blunt Rochester
Bonamici
Boyle, Brendan F.
Brady (PA)
Brownley (CA)
Bustos
Capuano
Carbajal
Cardenas
Carson (IN)
Cartwright
Castor (FL)
Castro (TX)
Chu, Judy
Cicilline
Clark (MA)
Clarke (NY)
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Cohen
Connolly
Correa
Costa
Courtney
Crist
Crowley
Cuellar
Cummings
Davis (CA)
Davis, Danny
DeFazio
Delaney
DeLauro
DelBene
Demings
DeSaulnier
Deutch
Dingell
Doggett
Doyle, Michael F.
Ellison
Engel
Eshoo
Espaillat
Esty (CT)
Evans
Foster
Frankel (FL)
Fudge
Gallego
Garamendi
Gomez
Gonzalez (TX)
Gottheimer
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Gutierrez
Hanabusa
Hastings
Heck
Higgins (NY)
Himes
Hoyer
Huffman
Jackson Lee
Jayapal
Jeffries
Johnson (GA)
Johnson, E. B.
Kaptur
Keating
Kelly (IL)
Kennedy
Khanna
Kihuen
Kildee
Kilmer
Kind
Krishnamoorthi
Kuster (NH)
Lamb
Langevin
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Lawrence
Lawson (FL)
Lee
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lieu, Ted
Lipinski
Loebsack
Lofgren
Lowenthal
Lowey
Lujan Grisham, M.
Lujan, Ben Ray
Lynch
Maloney, Carolyn B.
Maloney, Sean
Matsui
McCollum
McEachin
McGovern
Meeks
Meng
Moore
Moulton
Murphy (FL)
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal
Nolan
Norcross
O'Halleran
O'Rourke
Pallone
Panetta
Pascrell
Payne
Pelosi
Perlmutter
Peters
Peterson
Pingree
Pocan
Polis
Price (NC)
Quigley
Raskin
Rice (NY)
Rosen
Roybal-Allard
Ruiz
Ruppersberger
Ryan (OH)
Sanchez
Sarbanes
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schneider
Schrader
Scott (VA)
Scott, David
Serrano
Sewell (AL)
Shea-Porter
Sherman
Sinema
Sires
Smith (WA)
Soto
Speier
Suozzi
Swalwell (CA)
Takano
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Titus
Tonko
Torres
Tsongas
Vargas
Veasey
Vela
Velazquez
Visclosky
Walz
Wasserman Schultz
Waters, Maxine
Watson Coleman
Welch
Wilson (FL)
Yarmuth
NOT VOTING--13
Beyer
Brown (MD)
Butterfield
Cooper
DeGette
Gabbard
Issa
Labrador
McNerney
Poe (TX)
Richmond
Rogers (KY)
Webster (FL)
{time} 1457
Mr. CUMMINGS changed his vote from ``aye'' to ``no.''
So the resolution was agreed to.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.
____________________