[Congressional Record Volume 163, Number 209 (Thursday, December 21, 2017)]
[Senate]
[Pages S8215-S8217]
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NOMINATIONS PROCESS
Mr. LANKFORD. Mr. President, maybe my colleagues have heard through
public and private conversations over the past year that I believe the
Senate is moving gridlock from here on Capitol Hill to all across the
city and across the Nation. The reason for that is how we do
nominations and the length of time on nominations. It is time for the
Senate to fix the Senate's rules.
Here is how it works. As this body knows extremely well, we have over
1,000 nominees who come from the President. In the first year of a new
Presidency, a vast amount of time is spent in getting those 1,000
people through the nomination process. Each one of those is selected by
the White House. They do their own vetting, and then they send them
over to the Senate.
The Senate has the constitutional responsibility for advice and
consent. When they come through the Senate, they will go through
background checks, evaluations, and conversations with staff on both
sides of the aisle.
They then come to the committee, go through a committee process and a
hearing, they are voted on in that time period, and then they move to
the floor.
When they move to the floor for debate, typically, for most of the
years of the Senate, they have already gone through the committee
process. Every Member of the Senate has the opportunity to be able to
take a look at their information. And then they move through with a
simple-majority vote. That is the way nominations have moved for most
of the history of the Senate.
A few years ago--20 or so--some individual Senators started asking
for cloture votes. Those cloture votes started to slow down the process
on about 3 or 4 nominations a year; then it became 9 or so nominations
a year; then it moved to as crazy of a number as 13 or so a year, of
the 1,000 or so moving through.
That became such a nuisance that in 2013, my Democratic colleagues
called for something they called the nuclear option, to say we will
just take nominations not from 60 required to be able to get to cloture
but just to 51. There was debate and internal conversation about that
because Republicans, quite frankly, were holding up 15 or so
nominations a year with the cloture process. So there was a big debate
about that.
In the beginning of President Obama's second term, Republicans and
Democrats came together and they changed the rules of the Senate for 2
years and said: OK, truce. The simple rule of the Senate was for any
cloture vote, if there was one called for--again, typically, you would
never call for one, but if there was one called for, there would be 2
hours of debate for a district court judge, 8 hours of debate for most
nominees, and 30 hours of debate for Supreme Court, circuit court, or a
Cabinet-level appointment. But even Harry Reid, when he stood on the
floor, said this would be only--his words--``extraordinary
circumstances'' if you should ask for a cloture vote at all. But if
they were asked for, it would be 2 hours, 8 hours, or 30 hours. Prior
to that, all nominations were 30 hours of debate, literally taking up
an entire day to move one person, knowing that you have to move 1,000.
A few months after that, still in 2013, Democrats still frustrated
that Republicans were calling for some cloture votes still, moved to
have the nuclear option entirely and just transition all nominations,
except for the Supreme Court, to just 51 votes. So now they had the
rule of expediting 2 hours, 8 hours, and 30 hours, and the new ability
to move them all with just 51 votes.
Quite frankly, if you are going to change the rule to 51 votes, you
probably need to change the cloture rule as well. They just did it in
reverse. They changed the rule for how many hours it would take and
then later changed the rule for how many people it takes to go through
the process.
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Now what has happened? Remember I argued that we had 13, 14, 15
people held up in cloture in a year? This year, so far, there have been
64 nominations held up in cloture votes. That is 64 days in the Senate
we could do nothing else but sit here waiting. Now, it wasn't for
debate. It may sound as if it is being held for 30 hours of debate for
that time period. Debate normally didn't happen. Most of the time, this
Chamber was empty. It was just that 30 hours was demanded to shut down
the body as a whole, 64 of those in this year.
What has it brought us? It has brought us more animosity, more
division, and more frustration. My Democratic colleagues a few years
ago were screaming that we should have the nuclear option because
Republicans were so irrational with 15 cloture votes. Yet we have
watched 64 occur this year.
Earlier this week, I sat down with the Rules Committee and brought a
very simple option to everyone, Democrats and Republicans alike, and we
had a great turnout to be able to just talk through the process. My
simple presentation was, let's take the rule that was agreed to in
2013, that Harry Reid and the Democrats brought at the beginning of the
second term of President Obama, and let's have the rule for each
nomination be 2 hours, 8 hours, and 30 hours. Let's move back to the
tradition that Harry Reid had, which is to say let's make cloture votes
only extraordinary on a nomination, if needed at all, but if they are,
2 hours, 8 hours, or 30 hours. To do the exact same thing now is what
was agreed on in 2013 and 2014.
By the way, Republicans joined with Democrats during that time period
and passed that new rule, which would put us at disadvantage with 78
votes.
I don't think it is too much to ask to say that if we are going to
get the Senate back to work again, then let's actually get back to work
again. Let's put us in a process that actually gets there.
What happens in the meantime when that does not occur? I will tell
you what happens. In the meantime, we have agencies all over this town
that can't answer a question because the bureaucrats are waiting on a
Senate-confirmed individual to be able to lead that agency--to be the
Secretary, Under Secretary, Deputy Secretary, whatever the task may be,
the counsel for that particular agency--so they sit and wait. So our
constituents who are trying to get a permit in certain places or trying
to get an answer or trying to get disaster relief--all they can say in
the office is, we can't do that until we get a Senate-confirmed
position in place. But we can't get Senate-confirmed positions in place
until my Democratic colleagues will actually allow individuals to
actually come up and be debated.
What else happens? The other thing that happens is, we can't do
legislation in this body; we can only do nominations. With 1,000
different positions that are open, typically they move through rather
quickly and they move through the process. But when 64 days are held up
just for that, during that time period, you can't do anything else but
sit and go through what is called the cloture 30 hours. You can't bring
up other legislation.
Then what happens? Well, then my Democratic colleagues come to the
floor and say: We haven't had a single debate in this body on CHIP. We
haven't had a debate on infrastructure. We haven't had debate on any of
these things. Why won't we move a bill on all of these things?
At the same time, they know it is because they blocked the floor from
being able to move legislation because of continual cloture votes over
and over and over. It is a bizarre game that doesn't lead to solutions;
it leads to greater animosity. It is the same frustration that has
existed for a while; it is just getting louder.
At some point, we have to put in a process and say: How do we get out
of this? How do we fix this? I think the best way to fix this is to
take a bipartisan solution that was agreed to before when Democrats
were in the lead, to agree to it now and say that is going to be the
permanent rule, just to be able to move a set of ideas.
For what is historically called the greatest deliberative body in the
world, wouldn't it be nice to actually get back to deliberating again,
spending more time on legislation rather than more time arguing about
why aren't debating it when everyone secretly knows the reason, which
is because we can't get it to the floor?
I do grow tired. I grow tired of hearing all the political statements
and accusations.
Republicans hate children.
They want to throw them out.
They don't want them to have health care.
They hate people of color.
They are trying to exclude people from voting.
They are trying to keep people from having tax reform.
They only care about the wealthy.
Just over and over, when at the same time, the undercurrent is out
there to keep anything from being discussed on the floor. It is an
interesting strategy to paint your ``enemy,'' but it doesn't help the
country--intentionally divisive without a solution.
In 2001, the first year of a new President, there were 51 nominations
pending that first year.
There is an interesting thing in the Senate rules. It is the
wonderful rule XXXI that no one has heard of. It states that at the end
of a year, any nominations that are still out there can be
automatically thrown back to the White House and they have to start all
over again. They have to renominate them. They have to go through the
whole process. They have to go through committees.
At the end of the first year of President Bush, there were 51
nominations still sitting there at the end of that year. On 49 of them,
this body, by unanimous consent, said: No, we will just hold them over.
We are fine. We don't have to send them all back to the President.
In 2009, in President Obama's first term, there were 72 folks. For 64
of those, this body--every Republican and Democrat--agreed to just
leave them here and not make them go through the whole process again,
which would have been absurd.
As of now, we have 122 pending at the end of President Trump's first
year. I am interested to know, when Republicans gave Democrats
unanimous consent to be able to maintain their nominations in the past,
what happens now. Will this be yet another sign of pure politics rather
than actually helping the country get stuff done?
I look forward to the day when we can work toward solutions, not just
argue and banter back and forth with political statements. If we are
going to get stuff solved, let's not pretend and play games and put
each other down; let's actually sit down in a room and get stuff
solved. Let's fix the rules of the Senate, whether they be the budget
rules that keep us from actually having real budget debates or the
rules of the Senate that keep us from actually working rather than
allowing us to actually do work.
The rules of the Senate and the process in the Senate are determined
by the Senators, so we alone are to blame when the Senate is not
working. There is no finger-pointing. There is no ``it is that party.''
There is no ``it is that person.'' It is all of us.
So my recommendation is simple. Let's fix it. Let's resolve the
issue. Let's do the right thing in the right way.
With that, I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Cassidy). The Senator from Colorado.
Mr. BENNET. Mr. President, this is not the topic that I came to the
floor to talk about; I will talk about it in a minute. But while the
Senator from Oklahoma is here, I thought I would just respond to what
he was saying--not on the merits of his particular proposal, because I
haven't had a chance to study that yet, but to his plea that this place
start to work again. I couldn't agree more with that sentiment.
The Founding Fathers were very deliberate people, and they understood
that in exercising self-government in the Republic that they were
establishing, which subsequent generations of Americans have made more
democratic over time, that we would have disputes. People these days in
our political system and especially on the cable television at night
seem to be astounded that there are people who don't see the world the
way they see the world. The Founders knew that, by definition, if we
were going to be a self-governing republic, we would have
disagreements, and they set out to form
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an incredibly elegant mechanism to resolve those disputes. It was
elegant on the outside of this Chamber--freedom to assemble, freedom of
speech, freedom of religion, the right to vote--and it was elegant on
the inside of this Chamber. And generations of people who occupied this
place understood that the way it was meant to work was not that you
always got your way all the time and that part of being here was not
just to have disputes but to resolve disputes--and not even our
disputes but disagreements that the country might have for a legitimate
reason--and, on average, hoped that we would move the country forward.
I quite agree that recently--certainly in the time that I have been
here--we have been using this place simply to have disputes, not to
resolve them. That may be OK if we were in North Korea or in the Soviet
Union--the old Soviet Union; it doesn't work in a democratic republic.
I want to finish a little bit of the history that my friend from
Oklahoma talked about. After the Democrats invoked the nuclear option,
which I have said before on this floor is the worst vote that I ever
took as a Senator, the now majority leader pocketed that precedent when
we changed the rules in the middle and used it--used the nuclear option
to change the rules so that now a person gets a lifetime appointment on
the Supreme Court not with 60 votes but with just 51 votes. My issue
with that is that now your party can advance people to the Supreme
Court without any reasonable expectation that my party should take
responsibility for it, or vice versa.
Instead of having potential nominees come here and say: You should
put me on the court because I can attract both Democratic and
Republican votes because I have an open mind, I worry we are going to
have people from both sides say: We are going to have a litmus test for
Supreme Court nominees, which says we either have the most conservative
jurist in the country or the most liberal jurist in the country,
depending on who it is. We have infected the Supreme Court with the
partisanship of this body.
My hope is, we can actually come together on a set of rule changes
that would recognize not just that this place may need to move a little
faster in the 21st century but that we ought to be pushing people
together to work in a bipartisan way on behalf of the country.
Without passing on the merits of the proposal, I thank the Senator
for coming to the floor to talk about--to put it in the vernacular--how
busted this place is.
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