[Congressional Record Volume 163, Number 127 (Thursday, July 27, 2017)]
[Senate]
[Pages S4389-S4415]
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AMERICAN HEALTH CARE ACT OF 2017--Continued
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Young). The Senator from Wyoming.
Amendment No. 502 to Amendment No. 267
Mr. ENZI. Mr. President, I call up amendment No. 502, the Heller
amendment.
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The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will report.
The senior assistant legislative clerk read as follows:
The Senator from Wyoming [Mr. Enzi] for Mr. Heller,
proposes an amendment numbered 502 to amendment No. 267.
Mr. ENZI. I ask unanimous consent that the reading of the amendment
be dispensed with.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
The amendment is as follows:
(Purpose: To strike the sunset of the repeal of the tax on employee
health insurance premiums and health plan benefits)
Strike subsection (c) of section 109.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Missouri.
Mr. BLUNT. Mr. President, we are talking today, obviously, as we move
into the final hours of this debate, about the two mandates in the
original Affordable Care Act, the individual mandate and the employee
mandate--certainly, the individual mandate but both of these mandates.
First, I want to talk about the individual mandate. It was
unprecedented in Federal law. The idea that the Federal Government
could tell somebody they had to buy a product, tell them what that
product had to look like, and have very little input on the price or
competition is just something the Federal Government had never done
before. They didn't just set guidelines, they didn't even just set
subsidies but actually a requirement to buy a product or pay a penalty.
Now, when this case got to the Supreme Court, the government was
still arguing it was a penalty and there was nothing wrong with that
penalty, until apparently they figured out the Court wanted to look at
this as a tax because a penalty wouldn't have been constitutional.
Now, we all know this is a penalty. The Supreme Court can call it a
tax, the Obama lawyers could at that moment decide, well, even though
we set up the law as a penalty, we really think it must be a tax, and
that 5-to-4 decision decided that because it was a tax, not a penalty,
that part of the law was upheld.
Nobody ever thought this was a tax before that day, nobody has ever
seriously thought it was a tax after that day. It was a penalty you pay
if you decide you don't want to do something the Federal Government
tells you that you have to do.
There is no constitutional basis that gives the government the
authority to make that kind of decision, and families and individuals
have been hurt by that decision.
There is only one place to go on the individual market, the exchange.
Remember that? We have almost forgotten the total disaster of the
exchange. States tried to operate exchanges, almost none of them
worked. States spent millions and tens of millions, and I think a time
or two maybe even more than that to put an exchange together. It didn't
work. That part of the law didn't work so you wind up mostly with one
big exchange. Even with one big exchange, you have to think about
whether the policies available in the county you live in--most of the
debate over the past several years, a lot of the debate has been we
ought to expand the marketplace, we ought to buy across State lines, we
should have more choices and more places to go. Somehow we managed to
define in this law, the law that is currently the law of the land, a
marketplace that is about as small as it could possibly be.
In our State, in Missouri, we have counties that have a million
people. We have a county that has a million people. We have a county
that has 4,000 people. The county that has 4,000 people has its own
buying unit when it comes to looking at how the marketplace is set up.
It just doesn't make sense. The deductibles are so high, the choice is
so low. Some defenders of the law will say that costs will go up if the
amendment passes. That is possible, but we know the costs will go up if
the amendment fails. We know the costs will go up if we stay where we
are.
Costs, since 2013, have increased an average of over 100 percent in
the country--105 percent. This was the law that was going to reduce
family costs by $2,500 a year. Families are generally relieved if their
insurance didn't increase by $2,500 a year, let alone fail to reduce by
$2,100 a year. So a 105-percent increase in 4 years--in Missouri, where
I live, 145 percent is the increase.
I think at least three States have had an increase of more than 200
percent, and even with an increase of more than 200 percent, nobody
wants to sell insurance there. Not only is there no competition, I
think about one-third of the counties in America this year don't have
more than one company that will even offer a product. Some have had no
companies that would offer a product, and 40 percent is the estimate
for next year. There are places where no more than one company will
offer a product. What kind of competitive marketplace is that?
The government, with the mandate, says you have to buy a product and
you have to buy it in that marketplace and you have to buy it from that
one company at whatever rate some other level of government has finally
approved to keep the company there that probably didn't want to be
there, but if you don't buy it, you pay a penalty.
This is not working. Millions of people have chosen to pay the
current penalty, which was $695, rather than to participate in a system
that didn't work for them. Families can't continue to pay more and get
less.
Remember former President Clinton's observation on this: What a crazy
system. The costs keep going up and the coverage keeps going down. We
have forced people to be in a system that according to President
Clinton, the costs keep going up, the coverage keeps going down, and if
you don't participate in that, you pay a penalty.
We have to move in a different direction. Eliminating these mandates
helps to do that. There are some Congressional Budget Office numbers
out there that estimate what is about to happen. They certainly totally
misestimated the current law. I believe, under the current law, there
would be 25 million people, roughly, or some big number like that on
the exchange today. There are 10 million instead of 25 million, 22
million, whatever the projection was for this date in 2017. There are
about 10 million.
CBO is notoriously wild with their projections. They projected, for
instance, that 15 million people would drop out of the individual
market if one of the many burdens of this bill or these amendments
passed. There are only 10 million people in the market. How do 15
million people drop out if there are only 10 million people there?
They said that 7 million people who get Medicaid and pay nothing for
it wouldn't take that if the government didn't force them to. There
must be something wrong with the insurance product and Medicaid both if
people don't take it even if it is available to them. The current
system isn't working.
The other mandate, the employer mandate, is telling employers what
they have to do. One of the great benefits of health insurance in this
country since World War II has been insurance at work. It was pretty
much an accident in 1946. The war was over, and no one wanted to heat
up the economy too quickly so it was decided to have wage and price
controls. Somebody asked the price control person: If we add insurance
at work, does that count toward wages? They wanted to compete for more
and better employees they could get coming back into that economy from
the war. So they asked, if we add insurance to work, does that count as
wages? The wage and price control person said, no, it wouldn't count.
So they went to the IRS person and said: If it doesn't count toward the
wage, is it taxable if they get it at work? That person said, no, it
wouldn't be taxable either. So we have this unique system that
developed. We need to figure out how more people can get insurance at
work, more people can get insurance as a part of bigger groups. There
are things that work and things that don't. The government requiring
you to do something and thinking there is a constitutional right to do
that just simply doesn't work.
In fact, with the employer mandate, there are all kinds of unintended
consequences. People with 50 employees didn't want to get more than 50
employees. The 30-hour workweek became a problem. In fact, Ms. Collins,
the Senator from Maine, from almost day one has said: Why do we want to
enshrine the 30-hour workweek? Let's have a 40-hour workweek. Her
amendment was offered and filed over and over again. Companies were
reluctant to hire new employees. These are the
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unintended consequences of the employer mandate. Too many people have
two 26-hour jobs now who need a 40-hour job with good benefits instead
of two 26-hour jobs with no benefits.
More choices and the kind of access to healthcare people need is
where we ought to be focused, a solution that provides healthcare and
not just coverage. It is great to have insurance coverage. It is great
to have even a government insurance coverage like Medicaid, unless no
doctor wants to take any new Medicaid patients or if your insurance
coverage deductible is so high. The averages on the bronze plan is
$6,000 per individual, $12,000 per family. If your deductible is so
high you can't go to the doctor, you don't have the kind of access to
healthcare you need. You only have access to catastrophic sickness
care. This system needs to change, and I believe one of the fundamental
flaws in the system from day one was the government believing it could
force people to purchase a product that didn't meet their needs and
didn't meet what their family could afford to do.
I am glad we are having this debate.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Oklahoma.
Mr. LANKFORD. Mr. President, I would like to tell my colleagues a
couple of stories. We are going to talk about what is happening in
healthcare right now. There is the healthcare that is happening here in
this room in the debate that is ongoing that started months ago,
continuing to try to figure out the solutions to what we face with the
Affordable Care Act. Then there are the healthcare issues happening at
home.
Sometimes we get caught up in this conversation and think this is
what the center of the healthcare conversation is about. It is not. The
center of the healthcare conversation in America is around dinner
tables. Let me tell my colleagues what that conversation sounds like.
This comes from one of my constituents who just wrote to me. He said:
My premium increases from $1,308 per month to $2,489 per
month. This is for just my wife and I. We are self-employed
small business owners and simply cannot afford to pay nearly
$30,000 per year for health insurance. We will have to pay
the penalty for not having healthcare, but we have to eat and
pay our bills. Sadly, we are both in our late 50s, and we
probably need healthcare more now than ever. Mr. Lankford,
this is not the America that I grew up in, the America my
father fought to preserve in World War II.
That is the healthcare debate happening in America right now--
individuals who used to be able to afford their healthcare coverage,
but now they cannot and no longer have healthcare.
The Affordable Care Act did cover a new group of people who were not
covered before, but it also pushed out another whole group who used to
have coverage and now does not.
This is an extremely personal issue. This is not a political issue.
These are families and lives and children. These are individuals who
have cancer and diabetes and a history of genetic diseases in their
families, and they are very concerned about what happens politically in
this room because it affects their families and their real lives.
Congress needs to act on this. What is happening right now with the
status quo is untenable for families all across the country. Insurance
carriers have left the market. Rates have gone up dramatically. We have
fewer choices and more control but less control for families.
What does that look like in my State? Well, in my State, premiums
went up last year 76 percent--last year--a 1-year increase. I have
folks all the time who say to me that their great complaint is about
the rising cost of college tuition. Let me give my colleagues a
glimpse. College tuition has increased 76 percent in 15 years.
Insurance in my State went up 76 percent in 1 year. In fact, since
ObamaCare fully rolled out in 2013 until now, insurance in my State has
gone up 201 percent. That is not the Affordable Care Act; that is a
recipe to be able to push people out of insurance and keep them out.
ObamaCare was designed to force healthy people to buy insurance to
increase the risk pools for those insurance companies. But when you
can't afford the premiums, you are forced to pay this big tax. Now, the
question is, Who is paying the tax? Originally, ObamaCare said: Well,
people who didn't buy into the insurance who want to just take the risk
on their own, these wealthy individuals, they would have to pay the
extra tax. Really? What did that end up looking like? Again, coming
back to my State, 96,000 Oklahomans are currently paying the tax to the
IRS because they don't have healthcare insurance. Who are they? Eighty-
one percent of the people who pay the penalty make less than $50,000 a
year. These are individuals who cannot afford the insurance, and they
also can't afford the fine that is coming from the IRS. It is a poverty
tax that the Affordable Care Act created to try to force these people
into insurance they cannot afford, and when they can't afford that,
then they get a big hit on their taxes as well. It is literally a no-
win situation for them.
One of the major goals of the Affordable Care Act was to provide
affordable coverage. It was to be able to help people get into
insurance. It was to be able to help improve the safety net. Those are
not irrational goals. Those are good goals, but the execution of it was
terrible, and the implementation has caused more problems than it has
solved.
In my State, many physicians in rural areas used to be independent.
Now they have all been forced into working for big hospitals because
they can't afford the compliance costs to keep their office moving
anymore. So independent doctors and independent clinics are now part of
big conglomerate hospital companies. I am glad they are there, or we
would have no access to care at all.
My State used to have four insurance carriers in the State. Now it
has one, and that one is discussing leaving.
I hear all the time people who are mad at Republicans saying: Why
haven't you solved this yet? Quite frankly, this is an incredibly
difficult issue. But I also want to be able to respond back to people:
Don't gripe at the firefighters fighting the wildfire. They didn't
start it. We are trying to put it out. Yes, I know the fire line is
big, and, yes, I know it is difficult to put it out, but we are doing
our best to resolve a fire we did not start. We will resolve this.
So what is happening right now with our trying to resolve it? What
are we trying to accomplish? We are trying to do several specific
things dealing with the Affordable Care Act. This is not about
resolving everything in healthcare. There are, quite frankly, lots of
issues on which we have bipartisan agreement that we should work on in
the days ahead, things like prescription drugs and so many other things
we can do to help bring down the cost of healthcare itself, but in the
meantime, we do have a dispute.
Our Democratic colleagues have said to us that they want to be able
to cooperate with us on healthcare, but the parameters are that we have
to keep the individual mandate--that tax penalty on people in my State
for people who make $50,000 or less to pay this giant tax; they want to
keep that. They want to keep the employer mandate, which is
dramatically driving up the cost of insurance for employers and
decreasing wages. The initial estimates are that people in my State are
making about $2,500 a year less now than they would be because of the
employer mandate that is on them. So we can't negotiate and say ``Let's
form a bipartisan agreement on this'' if they want to keep the
individual mandate and the employer mandate. Those things hurt people
at home.
So here is what we are trying to do. This is a budget bill. It is
called reconciliation. We are limited to only budget-related items to
be able to deal with. So we are working on some of the basics of what
needs to be repealed in the Affordable Care Act. We do want to get rid
of the individual mandate. We do want to get rid of the employer
mandate.
We do want to deal with how we can take control of healthcare out of
Washington, DC, and get it back to the States, where it used to be.
Prices are much cheaper when there is local control on healthcare than
when there is Federal, centralized control.
We would also like to find a way to get some of the bureaucracy out
of this. You see, when there is a healthcare dollar paid and it first
has to pay the Federal bureaucracy, then it goes to the State
bureaucracy, then it
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pays an insurance company bureaucracy, and then it pays a hospital
bureaucracy, there is not much of that dollar left to finally get to
patient care at the end. If we can take out one of those bureaucracies,
we can actually get more dollars to patients rather than having them
just feeding the bureaucracy of another layer.
We are simply trying to deal with the mandates that are there, who
actually makes the healthcare decisions for regulations and policy,
whether it is the State or the Federal Government, and how we are going
to balance out coverage for individuals who desperately need it in the
safety net.
I have heard a lot of folks talking about CBO scores. I will tell
you, I am in the middle, and I am very frustrated with CBO right now.
Every policy we want to float to say this is something we think will be
very effective to be able to help people in the safety net or to be
able to help people purchase insurance, CBO responds back to us: That
sounds like an interesting idea; it will take us about 4 weeks to study
it. When we are in the legislative process, when we are doing
amendments, we can't wait 4 weeks between each amendment. We have to be
able to get answers from them.
So we are stuck in this spot, so our resolution is--we have a House
version that has been scored, and we have a Senate version. We have a
lot of changes we want to make, even to our latest version. The best
answer we have while we wait on CBO scoring--another month to get us an
answer--is to be able to get an interim bill, get into a conference
between the House and the Senate, allow CBO the month that they need to
score this, and for us to be able to pass a better bill in September.
So that is where we are stuck right now.
This is not a final bill that is coming out. This is still an interim
process that is moving. But we need to be able to keep this process
moving because there are people at home who are counting on this
actually getting better for them in the future. Their words to me are:
This cannot get worse, because I can't afford what we currently have,
and I can't afford that access I have been given to healthcare.
In the middle of all of this debate, a lot of people on the outside
look at it and say: How come the Senate can't move faster?
I respond back to them: We can't get a score from CBO, so we can't
move any faster. We are stuck waiting on them.
They typically will call me and say: Well, just run over CBO.
We are not going to ignore the law, and we are not going to ignore
the rules of the Senate, but we are going to work to actually get this
right.
In the meantime, I have heard an awful lot of scare tactics coming
out. It usually circles around, there will be 22 million people who
will suddenly not have insurance. That is a fascinating number to me
since only 9 million people have ObamaCare right now. Nine million are
actually on the exchange. So it seems difficult to me for 22 million
people to lose what only 9 million people have. But if you are an
economist, they look at, on the horizon, people who may one day join in
at some point, and then those people who may have joined in then might
have lost their insurance. It makes total sense to an economist, but to
all of us who just look at math, it becomes very difficult.
CBO also believes that without a Federal mandate and a tax penalty on
individuals, they will not buy this insurance product. People do not
want to buy it and will not buy it unless they are made to buy it.
The problem is, there are 6.5 million people in the country who are
also required to buy it who are just paying the tax rather than buying
the insurance.
We need to allow people to make decisions on their own lives, but we
need to also make sure there is actually an insurance product they can
afford. And all the scare tactics about how we are going to throw out
preexisting conditions and people who have preexisting conditions will
be on their own--that is not true. Every single one that we have
debated has included protection for preexisting conditions. We all are
still honoring things like lifetime caps, annual caps. We have all
included 26 and under. If you want to stay on your parents' insurance,
you can still do that.
There have been all of these scare tactics, like this will throw
senior adults out on the street, and Medicaid is going to have these
dramatic cuts. I looked at one of the proposals that was put out by the
Senate and one of the drafts that we went through, and it said
``dramatic cuts.'' Here are the ``dramatic cuts'' we had in Medicaid:
Every year for the next 8 years, Medicaid increased at twice the rate
of inflation. Every year for 8 years in a row, twice the rate of
inflation, Medicaid went up. That is twice as fast as Medicare goes
up--twice as fast as Medicare. So Medicaid was accelerating twice as
fast as Medicare, and then 8 years from now, Medicaid went back to
growing at the same speed as Medicare--at the rate of inflation. That
was the ``dramatic cut'' in Medicaid. Every year going up twice as fast
as inflation is a cut? Nine years from now, only growing as fast as
inflation is a cut? But it is being portrayed that people are going to
be thrown out on the streets and Medicaid is going away.
I would encourage Americans to understand that the conversation has
been a lot about political rhetoric. This body really is committed to
the safety net. This body really is committed to allowing people to
have choices again that they can actually afford for insurance. We are
really committed to taking control of healthcare out of Washington, DC,
and pushing it back to the States and to families so they can control
healthcare decisions again. That is the real debate that is happening
here. I know it is boisterous, and I know it is much easier just to
have bumper sticker comments, but at the end of this, we have to
realize there really are people who are involved in this, who are
deeply affected by it.
A couple more stories. A gentleman recently sent me an email saying
that he received word that his premiums are rising from $1,229 a month
to $2,205 a month to cover just him and his wife. His deductible is
rising to $4,000 a person. His out-of-pocket maximum is rising to
$13,000. That is under ObamaCare now.
Another person who wrote me is currently enrolled in ObamaCare now.
He is 62 years old, and his wife is 61.
Our monthly health insurance premium increased by 71
percent to $2,900 last year. My wife and I are healthy with
no major problems, so my health insurance is the size of my
mortgage payment.
That is under ObamaCare now.
Under ObamaCare now, a lady from my State wrote me and said that for
her first year, her monthly premium was $1,200. This year, she will pay
$1,900 a month. She just got a letter from the one insurance company
left in her State--the one opportunity she has to get insurance--saying
that her monthly premium next year will be $3,540. That is an increase
of 84 percent, or $42,000 a year, for insurance under ObamaCare now.
Her simple statement to me is, How is this possible?
I speak to some of my colleagues, and they say: Those stories aren't
true.
I say: Let me introduce you to some real-life people outside of this
political debate who are debating around their kitchen table about how
they are going to make it with the rates that have been put on them.
What we have now has to be addressed. I know this is a boisterous,
loud process. But as we walk through the process, the end solutions are
for these families, so that our noise helps them to actually move back
to thinking about their kids and what they are going to do next in
their retirement, and not to say: How in the world am I going to pay
for my health insurance anymore?
Let's get this finished. Let's move to the next stage. Let's get to
conference and try to resolve the differences between the House and the
Senate. By September, when we finally get a score back from CBO on all
of our scoring and they finally get us information on the things we
have asked for, let's get this passed so we can actually get this done.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Mississippi.
Mr. WICKER. Mr. President, let me congratulate my colleague from
Oklahoma for a very fine statement, and let me associate myself with
each and every word and each and every fact he outlined in his very
fine statement, and also with the remarks of my friend from Missouri
who went before him. I appreciate their leadership on this issue.
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Let me, at this point, also give a salute to the First Amendment of
the Constitution of the United States, to the right of freedom of
speech, which we have seen exercised in this building and in this
Nation during the course of this debate, and the freedom granted to
petition the government for address of grievances. We have seen
examples of that. They have been on full display in this healthcare
debate, a phase of which will come to a close I hope this evening.
Let me give a shout out to our staff members. They have fielded
thousands, if not tens of thousands, of phone calls, letters, emails,
and visits from Americans exercising their rights under the First
Amendment. Americans have come to their Capital City, almost all of
them in an appropriate and nondisruptive way--sometimes intense, for
sure--expressing their opinions but also in display of their First
Amendment rights.
After all the debate, all the conversation, and all the exhortation
on this issue, we have seen a lot of things said from the floor and a
lot of things said on the news media that have amounted to a matter of
opinion. But here is one thing I know for a fact. For four straight
elections--2010, 2012, 2014, and 2016--Republicans ran on a promise to
repeal and replace ObamaCare. We ran on that platform, and for four
straight elections Republicans prevailed at the ballot box on the
strength of that platform. I know that for a fact, and this I believe.
Millions of Americans are at work today or at home or getting home from
their offices, from their shops, from their factories. They are turning
on the media. They are checking online. They are turning on the radio.
They are wondering if a campaign promise is going to be kept by this
party to which they have given the reins of government in four straight
elections.
We are close to keeping that promise. We are closer than we have ever
been, and we can take a big step tonight on making good on that
promise. That is not just a matter of keeping a promise, but I will say
to my colleagues that it is important this platform be honored.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent to speak for 10 additional
minutes if there are no other people on the other side asking for
consent.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. WICKER. So we are keeping a promise, but there is a lot more to
it, as my friend from Oklahoma outlined, not only in fact but also in
stories from honest-to-goodness Americans.
This debate is about keeping Americans from hurting, about relieving
the pain that this 2009 ACA has caused people to have. They were told
they could keep their doctors. They wanted to keep their doctors, and
it turns out they lost their doctors. They were told they could keep
their healthcare plans. They liked their healthcare plans, and, in
fact, they were not able to keep their healthcare plans. They were told
their premiums would go down, and we have seen chapter and verse--as
the gentleman from Oklahoma so forcefully outlined--of the dramatic,
drastic, unspeakable increase in premiums that Americans have
undergone. They were told they would have choice when it came to health
insurance, and they have not had that choice. They have lost their
freedom to make their own healthcare decisions, and that has been
sacrificed in favor of a big government approach. So people are
hurting, as has been explained on the floor tonight.
Families in my State who do not have employer-based health insurance
are paying nearly $3,000 more per year in premiums than they did 4
years ago. In my State, it is a 116-percent increase in premiums under
the Affordable Care Act over this short period of time. I guess we
should be thankful we are not the 201-percent increase in premiums that
our neighbors from Oklahoma have, or the 223-percent increase in
healthcare premiums that our neighbors across the line in the State of
Alabama have. But still, it is pretty bad wherever you go, and they
were told and this program was sold on a promise of reducing healthcare
premiums.
As has also been pointed out, 6 million independent-minded Americans
have just said: I will not purchase this required insurance. I will pay
the penalty, instead. The Supreme Court says it is a tax. We know it is
a penalty. It comes right out of their pockets. They are doing that
many times because they are independent-minded but many times because
it is the only thing they can afford.
So Americans are hurting. Americans from Missouri, Oklahoma, and
Mississippi are hurting, and they are hurting all across America. My
Republican colleagues know this. My Democratic colleagues know this.
They say: Well, the ACA needs adjustment. It needs some help.
But what is their solution? I think we are beginning to know, based
on statements made and based on information coming forward, that our
Democratic friends really want a single-payer system. That is their
solution to the failed ObamaCare system we have now--a British-style,
European-style, government-run insurance-for-all program. I don't think
we need that in America. I don't think that is what Americans thought
they were getting.
My wife and I have never moved our family to Washington, DC. We have
kept our home on the same street in Tupelo, MS, the whole time. We
raised our kids in Mississippi. When the last bell rings this weekend,
I will be on a plane back home to my State, moving around the State,
talking to Mississippians, speaking to people who gave me this great
opportunity to serve in this great body and this great system of
government.
I want to be able to tell them when I go home after this vote that I
have taken a big step in keeping the Federal Government out of the
business of deciding healthcare for their families. I want to be able
to tell them that they are now going to have more options to choose the
plan that works for them. I want to tell people back home who put me in
office that we put more power in the hands of the States, not unelected
Washington, DC, bureaucrats. I want to be able to tell them we passed a
bill that, as my friend from Oklahoma says, answers their concerns
about preexisting conditions and takes care of those people with low
incomes who need assistance in buying insurance. I want to assure the
people back in my home State and all across America, as my friend from
Oklahoma just did so eloquently, that the Medicaid Program will
continue. As a matter of fact, it will continue to grow, but at a rate
that is more sustainable, so we can afford it today and so we can
afford the Medicaid Program in future generations.
This has taken long hours of give and take. It may take more long
hours in debates tonight and in a conference with the House, but we can
get there. I see the solution formulating, and I am as optimistic as I
have ever been that we will be able to keep this four-election promise
we made.
These reforms are now within reach. We should take advantage tonight
of this opportunity to deliver on what was promised to the American
people, to relieve Americans who are hurting from the current ObamaCare
system, and to give them a better opportunity for affordable and
accessible healthcare.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from North Carolina.
Mr. TILLIS. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the time
until 8:30 p.m. be equally divided between the managers or their
designees and that at 8:30 p.m., the Senate vote in relation to the
Schumer or designee motion to commit, which is at the desk, followed by
a vote in relation to the Heller amendment No. 502.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
The Senator from Nevada.
Amendment No. 502
Mr. HELLER. Mr. President, I rise today to talk about my amendment,
Heller amendment No. 502. It addresses one of the most onerous taxes
enacted as part of the Affordable Care Act, commonly known as the
Cadillac tax. The Cadillac tax is a 40-percent excise tax set to take
effect in 2020 on employer-sponsored health insurance plans.
In Nevada, 1.3 million workers are covered by an employer-sponsored
health insurance plan. These are public employees in Carson City and
service industry workers that work on the Las Vegas Strip. They are
small business owners, and they are retirees across my State.
Hardly anyone in Nevada will be shielded from the devastating effects
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this Cadillac tax. Across America, 54 percent of employers and almost
151 million workers who currently enjoy employer-sponsored healthcare
benefits will experience massive changes to their healthcare by the
year 2020. We are talking about reduced benefits, we are talking about
increased premiums, and we are also talking about higher deductibles.
Hard-working Americans will suffer.
That is why I joined Senator Heinrich from New Mexico in introducing
what was called the Middle Class Health Benefits Tax Repeal Act earlier
this year, with the support of over 75 organizations. Some of those
organizations include unions, chambers of commerce, small business
owners, State and local government employees, and retirees. They are
all saying the same thing--that the Cadillac tax needs to be repealed.
From unions to small businesses, employers are proposing sweeping
changes to employee benefits today--right now--to avoid this onerous
tax later.
First, over 33 million Americans who use flexible spending accounts
and 13.5 million Americans who use health savings accounts may see
these accounts vanish in the coming years as companies scramble to
avoid the law's 40-percent excise tax. HSAs and FSAs are used for
things like hospital and maternity services, dental care, physical
therapy, and access to mental health services. Access to these
lifesaving services could all be gone for millions of Americans if the
Cadillac tax is not fully repealed.
Second, I have heard from employers, large and small, from all over
Nevada, saying that they will inevitably have to eliminate services
their workers currently enjoy, dramatically increase deductibles and
premiums, and will have to cut certain doctors out of their networks.
This goes right at the heart of ObamaCare's broken promise: If you like
your healthcare, you can keep it; if you like your doctor, you can keep
your doctor.
This onerous tax targets Americans who already have high quality
healthcare, and Nevadans have reached out to tell me how this tax will
affect them. One of the stories that hit me the hardest was hearing
from a school teacher in Las Vegas. As the son of a cafeteria worker, I
know the sacrifices that these educators make each day. Cynthia, who
works in the Clark County School District, sacrificed a higher paycheck
to ensure that a quality health plan would be there when she retired.
The Cadillac tax would place a 40-percent excise tax on her retiree
benefits and cause her to deplete her savings to cover the loss.
Seniors have worked their entire lives for these benefits, and the
Cadillac tax puts at risk the sacrifices they have made for decades to
have a safe and stable retirement. That is why I am committed to
repealing this very bad tax. Many are in the service industry, like
Michael from Las Vegas, who wrote to my office and explained how he is
worried that the cost of his union-sponsored health insurance premium
will now skyrocket. He is already seeing his deductibles increase and
understands that next year there will be more increases to his
healthcare premiums. Michael also shares his concerns about an imposed
fine from the Internal Revenue Service, should he not have health
insurance. He makes a valid point. If he loses his job, then how can he
be expected to pay for his healthcare?
Norm, a city employee from Southern Nevada, shared a concern with me
recently: The last thing a self-insured provider wants to do is reduce
benefits for his employees.
Back in 2015, 90 Senators voted on the record in support of repealing
the Cadillac tax, and I hope all 90 will join me again today. They
recognize it will hurt middle-class families who, for reasons outside
of their control, have health plans that already or soon will reach the
Cadillac tax's cost limits. The tax will force many employers to pay
steep taxes on their employees' health plans, flexible spending
accounts, and possibly eliminate some employer-provided health coverage
plans altogether. Under this tax, deductibles will be higher and
benefits will be reduced even more, putting a strain on middle-class
families trying to make ends meet.
The short-term success of this was pushing the delay through 2020.
Now it needs to be fully repealed. So I encourage all my colleagues to
join me today in voting to support Heller amendment No. 502 to fully
repeal this bad tax and send a message that Congress is serious about
lowering costs for all Americans.
Mr. President, I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Who yields time?
If no one yields time, time will be charged equally to both sides.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Hawaii.
Mr. SCHATZ. Mr. President, you know, late this afternoon, around 5
o'clock, a number of Republican Senators indicated their unwillingness
to support the so-called skinny bill, which would rip healthcare from
16 million people, according to CBO, and increase health insurance
premiums by 20 percent--and not 20 percent over several years, 20
percent per year for the next several years, doubling health insurance
premiums over the next 4 or 5 years. That is the bill we are talking
about. They said that they don't like this bill, but they are willing
to vote for it if they are provided assurances that this is just sort
of a procedural vote.
We just had a motion to proceed that was procedural in nature,
according to them. We think it is the vote on healthcare.
Now, this second vote, which is actually a vote to enact
legislation--they are saying they are going to vote for it but only on
the condition that we go to conference committee.
Something just happened over the last couple of hours that is
actually pretty astonishing. The House Rules Committee adopted what
they call martial law. Now, it is not quite as bad as it sounds, but it
is pretty bad. What that means is it gives total control over the
procedures to the House majority. The House majority now is in a
position to enact the skinny bill right away.
There are a lot of Members of the Senate who want to talk about this,
but I will just give you my little indicators that they are going to
enact this into law by Sunday. They are going to enact this into law by
Sunday. No. 1, the White House already has a name for it, the President
has indicated a willingness to sign it sight unseen, and Paul Ryan just
issued a statement that was not at all reassuring. There were lots of
words, but none of them included ``We will not enact anything that
comes from the Senate. We will go to conference committee, and if we
don't have an agreement, we will not enact the Senate version of the
bill.''
They are desperate to enact a bill before the summertime starts, and
that is why we are all terrified here. There are a lot of people on the
Republican side who hate the bill that they are going to be asked to
vote for, and the only reason they are entertaining the possibility is
that they want to go to conference. But they are not going to end up in
a conference committee; they are going to end up in a signing ceremony
over the weekend.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Virginia.
Mr. KAINE. Mr. President, if I could just pick up on the comments of
my colleague from Hawaii, we had a comical discussion 2 days ago in the
Democratic caucus lunch. Comedy isn't that unusual in a caucus with Al
Franken, but the comic discussion was about how we would describe to
the American public what a skinny repeal is. It was kind of phraseology
that we might understand; how do we describe that to the American
public? We took about half an hour to try to figure out how to do it,
but about 2 hours ago, one of our Republican colleagues did it in 5
seconds. He said--and this is the Senator from South Carolina--that the
skinny repeal is a fraudulent disaster. That is what Senator Graham
said--the skinny repeal is a fraudulent disaster. He did such a better
job than we did of describing what the bill is, and it is a fraudulent
disaster because it hurts people. It takes health insurance away,
according to the CBO, from 16 million people, and it would jack up
premiums in a compounding 20 percent this year, then an additional 20
percent--40 percent the next year. That is why it is a fraudulent
disaster.
But some Members, as was described by my colleague from Hawaii, are
entertaining that: Even though we call it a fraudulent disaster, we can
vote on it because, don't worry, the House will
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create an opportunity for us to fix it and make it better. But the
comments of the Speaker, which had to be clarified a few minutes later
by his press spokesperson, have made absolutely plain that if this bill
passes out of the Senate, it is intended to be passed by the House
ASAP, and the President's spokesperson has said: We like this bill, and
the pen is in hand--we are ready to sign it.
So no one in this body should have any illusions: If the skinny
repeal--otherwise known as the fraudulent disaster--passes, it is not
to continue a process; it is to take health insurance away from 16
million people, and it will raise premiums dramatically. And that is
what the intent of this vote would be.
With that, Mr. President----
Mr. WYDEN. Mr. President, will my colleague yield for a question?
Mr. KAINE. I will yield the floor for a question.
Mr. WYDEN. Mr. President, just very quickly, the Senator pointed out
this analysis we have gotten where the premiums go into the
stratosphere. Senator Murray and I worked a long time on it.
Wages for working people are going up about as fast as a snail trying
to climb uphill. I am curious what you think that means for working-
class families in Virginia, because I know in my home State--and
Senator Merkley and I have talked about this--we have working families
right now who every single month are walking on an economic tightrope,
balancing their food bill against the fuel bill, the fuel bill against
the rent bill.
Because my colleague was correct with respect to the fact that this
would start, by the way, in January--this is not some kind of far-
removed thing--people are going to feel the hit of these skyrocketing
premiums right away. What does my colleague think that is going to mean
for working-class families in his home State?
Mr. KAINE. Well, to respond, Mr. President, to my colleague from
Oregon, one of the things we have seen in the first half year of this
administration is, whatever job report comes out month to month--comes
out at the beginning of each month, we are not seeing wage growth. We
are not seeing wage growth. So imagine that continuing forward--
essentially no wage growth and 20 percent increases in premiums that
then compound to 40 percent next year, 60 percent the year after that.
This will be devastating.
So if you put together the CBO consequences--16 million losing
insurance, the 20 percent compounding increases in premiums, a likely
dramatic destabilization of the insurance market, and then other
features that we hear are in the skinny bill--for example, if you take
funding away from Planned Parenthood--and 3 million women have decided
that is their choice, that is where they are going to get healthcare,
including many working women and women in working-class families--the
premium effect is going to be absolutely dramatic, and it will be
devastating to Virginians and Oregonians.
With that, Mr. President, I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Connecticut.
Mr. BLUMENTHAL. Mr. President, we are here at a historic moment, and
we listened to a historic speech just within the last 48 hours from our
colleague, Senator John McCain. All of us welcomed him back and were
inspired and overjoyed by his return and then by his speech asking that
we go back to the regular order, that we have committee consideration
of a bill, with hearings and markup and the democratic process really
working.
What threatens us tonight is the democratic process being brought to
new lows.
If this bill is passed with the assurance that it won't go to
conference--and there are conservatives, and I could quote them.
Senator Lindsey Graham said earlier today:
There's increasing concern on my part and others that what
the House will do is take whatever we pass--the so called
``skinny bill''--not take it to conference, go directly to
the House floor, vote on it, and that goes to the President's
desk with the argument, ``This is better than doing
nothing.'' Here's my response. The ``skinny bill'' as policy
is a disaster. The ``skinny bill'' as a replacement for
Obamacare is a fraud. The ``skinny bill'' is a vehicle to get
in conference to find a replacement. It is not a replacement
in and of itself. The policy is terrible because you
eliminate the individual and employer mandate which we all
want eliminated but we actually want to have an overall
solution to the problem of Obamacare, so you're going to have
increased premiums and most of Obamacare stays in place if
the ``skinny bill'' becomes law. Not only do we not replace
Obamacare, we politically own the collapse of healthcare. I'd
rather get out of the way and let it collapse than have a
half-assed approach where it is now our problem.
Senator John McCain said earlier today:
I'm not supportive of the legislation as it stands today. I
am in close consultation with Arizona governor over the so-
called ``skinny repeal.''
Senator Ron Johnson said earlier today:
Virtually nothing we're doing in these bills and the
proposal are addressing the problems and challenges and the
damage done to people.
We will see, in effect, a betrayal of our trust, and I say that very
seriously.
I hope this body will keep faith with our democracy and make sure
that a bill that is regarded as a bad bill--and rightly so because it
will eliminate insurance for 16 million people, it will raise premiums
by 20 percent in less than a year, it will drive up costs, and it will
bring down the number of people who are insured by catastrophic
numbers. We owe it to the American people to vote against this so-
called skinny bill, which is really a sham repeal. It is a skeletal
version of TrumpCare 2.0, 3.0, 5.0, 7.0. We can do that.
With that, I yield the floor to my distinguished colleague from the
State of Delaware.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Delaware.
Mr. COONS. Mr. President, I want to speak for a few minutes on the
floor to answer the calls I am getting into my office, the texts and
the emails I am getting with people asking: What is going on? What is
happening in the U.S. Senate? They can't keep track of what it is we
have moved to.
We don't know either.
We are here probably all night waiting for the majority to finally
produce the bill that they will use to attempt to repeal and maybe
replace--or not--the Affordable Care Act.
All we know is, every single proposal that has been brought forward
in recent days has two features: It reduces coverage, and it raises
costs.
It may be that 16 million Americans will lose healthcare coverage. It
might be 20 million, might be 32 million. Those are different scores
for different proposed bills.
It may raise costs by 15 percent, 20 percent, or 30 percent. Sometime
later tonight, we will see the final bill presented on this floor, and
hopefully we will get some score so we know what we are voting on
before we finally get there, but what is so scary to families I am
hearing from, is that after 7 months of majority rule, where the
Republican Party controls the Senate, House, and White House, we don't
have a finished bill for us to debate tonight in detail, and we don't
know yet exactly what we will vote on later tonight. We just know a
simple theme--every proposal that has been brought forward when scored
by the CBO, the independent scorekeeper, offers less coverage and
higher costs.
Folks, I want to remind you about something because I just ran into a
family out on the steps of the Capitol, outside the building, not
inside the building--a family who is raising two typical children and
one child with Down syndrome, a family where the father of the family
is Active-Duty U.S. military. They asked me: ``Why can't we be heard?''
The process that brought us here tonight did not include committee
hearings, where doctors, nurses, patient advocates, folks who run
hospitals, or folks who are specialists on insurance were heard.
In a press conference earlier this evening, four of our colleagues
said they are going to vote for this bill later tonight so it can go to
conference and get fixed. They said the current expected skinny repeal
bill is a fraudulent disaster, to paraphrase a colleague.
Well, what I really think we should do is heed the advice that
Senator McCain laid out on the floor a few days ago and go back to
regular order.
Just earlier today, there was an inspiring moment when we took up and
passed by a vote of 97 to 2 the Russia
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sanctions bill. We heard the chair and ranking Republican and Democrat
of the Foreign Relations Committee speak positively of each other and
positively of the process and they said the outcome is in the best
interest of our country.
As we have seen, we don't always follow regular order. Both parties
have responsibility for moving things over the years without fully
consulting each other and without going through the committee process.
I think this is the moment where we should look at what happened
earlier today on this very floor and follow that process, where the
committees are included and consulted, and where we find a bipartisan
resolution to what ails America. I am afraid that is not what is going
to happen, and later tonight we will be forced to vote for or against a
bill that raises healthcare costs for Americans and lowers the number
of Americans who get healthcare coverage. If that is the case, this
Senator will vote no.
Thank you.
With that, I yield the floor to my colleague from Connecticut.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Connecticut.
Mr. MURPHY. Thank you, Mr. President.
We are starting to hear rumors of what is in the so-called skinny
bill, and it is not skinny. It is humongous. It is filled with all
sorts of conservative priorities, whether it be--these are rumors--the
end to the individual mandate, the elimination that insurance companies
are required to include certain coverages, the denial of funding to
Planned Parenthood. This is not a bill that is designed to go to
conference. This is a bill that is designed to become law.
I just want to put all of the pieces together for folks what we are
hearing tonight, because you are hearing, if you are following this all
across America, different pieces of news emerging from different parts
of this city. Let me try to put it together for you for a minute.
First, you are seeing this skinny bill get fatter and fatter, which
all of a sudden looks like a piece of legislation that is not designed
to go to conference. It looks like a piece of legislation designed to
become law.
It is healthcare arson. It sets the insurance markets on fire. It
immediately takes insurance from 16 million people and drives rates up
by 20 percent on a compounding basis. This is insanity.
It is getting bigger and bigger, which makes you wonder, wait a
second, is this about going to conference or becoming law? Then we got
another piece of information. The White House doesn't support the
conference. The White House likes the skinny bill and wants it to
become law. Then we got another piece of information. The House of
Representatives tomorrow morning will declare what is called martial
law. That is a procedural move that will allow the House to pass the
bill that comes from the Senate as quickly as possible. This isn't
going to conference, this is becoming law. Then the icing on the cake
is the most curious piece of news: a statement from the Speaker of the
House in which he says, not ``we will go to conference,'' he says, ``I
am willing to go to conference.''
Why ``I am willing to go to conference'' and not ``we will go to
conference''? Well, maybe you got the clarification from his spokesman
who said: ``Conference committee is one option under consideration, and
something we are taking steps to prepare for should we choose that
route, after first discussing with the members of our conference.''
Can you see what is happening here? Can you see what is happening
here? This is a bill that is being sold as just a procedural step to
get to conference, but everything else that is happening around it
suggests this is becoming law. Even if I am not right, let's also be
clear about the process. Even if there is a conference, how on Earth is
the conference going to come to a conclusion that the Senate could not?
Right? You are going to introduce the Freedom Caucus to the U.S. Senate
and think you are going to get more functionality and not less
functionality? Even if you get to that conference, it will last for a
couple days, maybe a couple weeks. They will come to no conclusion, and
then guess what. The skinny bill, which is not so skinny any longer, is
there for the U.S. House of Representatives to pass and put into law.
All the while, the President of the United States is cheering that on.
That is the signal he gave you. The President of the United States does
not support a conference. He supports a bill that we are going to have
unveiled later tonight and passed. He supports that bill going into
law.
So even if you get to conference, with the President chiding the
conference to give us and pass the Senate bill, which is available to
the House for passage, that is what the outcome will be.
So for our Senate friends who want assurances that this bill will not
become law, you are getting exactly the opposite tonight.
With that, I yield the floor to the Senator from Minnesota.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Minnesota.
Ms. KLOBUCHAR. Mr. President, I thank my colleague from Connecticut
for that really good and detailed description of how we got to where we
are because I think it is really hard to explain to Americans at home
who are watching this what a debate really is. I don't see my friends
from the other side of the aisle right now, but watch what is happening
here today because what I have seen in my State the last few months is
extraordinary.
Families are coming up in the middle of a Fourth of July parade with
their child with Down syndrome, bringing him over and saying: He is not
just a preexisting condition. He is our child whom we love.
This last weekend, I was with a family with two identical twins,
Mariah and Evelyn. One is the catcher and one is the pitcher on their
11-year-old softball team. Just in the last few years, one of them
found out that she has a severe case of juvenile diabetes. The other
one is perfectly healthy. What the mom told me is that they can hardly
make it, paying for the cost of the insulin that has gone up
astronomically over the years, paying for the testing strips and
everything involved in this.
Yet, now, instead of seeing a bill which reduces the cost of
prescription drugs by including some of the provisions I have long
advocated for--from ending pay for delay, where big pharmaceutical
companies are paying off generic companies to keep their products off
the market, or bringing in less expensive drugs from other countries or
allowing for negotiation under Medicare Part D--instead of doing some
of those innovative things we need to bring costs down for regular
Americans, what we see here is going to make it worse.
When I met with these two girls, I told them and their family that I
had their back and that I would tell their story on the floor of the
U.S. Senate. Never once did I think I would be saying it, even this
last week, when we are facing this kind of onslaught to this family--
because what I would tell these girls now is that this bill, from what
we have learned--we have not seen it, we don't know exactly what is in
it--but from what we have heard, what would happen is, according to the
nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, it would kick 16 million
people off of healthcare.
I would ask those girls: Do you know how many people that is, girls?
It is 14 States' worth of people. It is the combined population of 14
States in the United States of America.
What we have learned about this bill is that it would increase
premiums by over 20 percent, again, according to the nonpartisan
Congressional Budget Office. What I would tell them is that is more
than their school clothes, it is more than their softball clothes, it
is a good chunk of their college education. This is real money for real
people and this reduces coverage and it makes it more expensive. We can
do so much better.
A few months ago, we went to that baseball game where the Republican
men's team played the Democratic team. I was there in the stands, and I
watched at the end this beautiful scene when the Democratic team won
and they took the trophy and they gave it to the Republicans' team, and
they said to put it in Representative Scalise's office.
Why did they do that? Because they were saying we are all on one
team. That is what this should be.
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When we are dealing with one-sixth of the American economy, we
shouldn't be at night passing a bill that one of our most trusted
colleagues on the other side of the aisle, a Republican, has just
called ``a fraudulent disaster.'' That is not what we should be doing.
We should be working on the fixes that so many people have been working
on for so many years--bringing drug prices down, making the exchanges
stronger with reinsurance and cost sharing. These are things we
actually can do together.
I ask my colleagues to work with us. We have opened the door. We want
to work together on these changes and not to pass this fraudulent
disaster.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Colorado.
Mr. BENNET. Thank you, Mr. President. I appreciate so much my
colleagues being out here on the floor.
We are debating a bill that relates to 16 percent of our gross
domestic product, almost 20 percent of our economy.
I wish there were folks on the other side of the aisle who were out
here tonight having this debate. I thank my colleague from Minnesota
for the point she made.
I want to state that I am really discouraged about where we are in
our political system right now, and part of that is because politicians
seem to think they can say one thing when they are running for office
and do another thing when they get here and that somehow there is not a
consequence.
I guess one of the reasons people think there is no consequence is
that we have begun to treat edited content--journalism--as though
somehow it is inferior to somebody just shooting their mouth off on the
internet. We hear the President verbally assaulting journalists who
have covered terrorism and who have tried to bring the story in Syria
to the United States. Some have lost their lives. The President says
they are not covering terrorism; then he attacks them as fake news. He
goes to places like Youngstown and gets people to attack CNN or the New
York Times or the Wall Street Journal--anything that is actually edited
content.
I think it is because he thinks, A, he will not withstand the
scrutiny of real journalists, but I think, B, he thinks it will help
with this anything-goes style of politics, which says you can say one
thing in the election and do something else.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Kennedy). The time of the Senator has
expired.
Mr. BENNET. I ask for an additional 3 minutes.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Democratic time has expired.
Mr. BENNET. I ask unanimous consent for an additional 5 minutes.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. BENNET. Mr. President, I just don't think this Republic will work
very well if we don't have a free press that is respected and if we
don't hold people accountable for their campaign promises.
Here is one of the things Donald Trump said during the campaign about
what he was going to produce for the American people with respect to
healthcare. He said that it was going to be beautiful, terrific--a
beautiful and terrific plan to provide such great healthcare at a tiny
fraction of the cost, and it is going to be so easy.
That is what he said, in rally after rally across the United States
of America, and a lot of people believed it. He talked about how much
he hated the Affordable Care Act, or ObamaCare, whatever you want to
call it, and all the reasons why; many of the reasons he talked about
were manufactured.
But that doesn't really matter anymore. He is the President. The
Republicans are in the majority of the Senate, and the Republicans have
a majority of the House. Their characterization--or
mischaracterization--of the Affordable Care Act is not the issue
anymore; the issue is what are they going to do for people living in
the State of Colorado who are dealing with a healthcare system that is
not supporting them terribly well. My colleagues heard that right.
People who support the Affordable Care Act or oppose it, in my State,
are deeply discouraged about the way our healthcare system works. And I
think that if the President were keeping his promise, we would see 100
people support the bill because it is actually consistent with what
people at home want. They want more transparency when it comes to
healthcare. They want more affordability. They want more
predictability. That is what they want.
If I set out to write a bill less responsive to that aspiration of
the people I represent, who are critics of the Affordable Care Act--
Republicans in my State--I couldn't write a bill less responsive than
the one the House of Representatives has passed and the one that was
introduced by the majority leader after he wrote it in secret.
It is 8:20 on the night we are going to have this vote, and we
haven't seen the bill. After a year and a half of almost countless
committee hearings, after adopting almost 200 Republican amendments on
the Affordable Care Act, and then going to townhall after townhall,
being accused of being a Bolshevik who hadn't read the bill, my
question is, Why aren't people being held to that standard tonight?
Maybe they are not asking us to read the bill because there is no bill
at 8:20 on the night that we are supposed to take away 16 million
Americans' healthcare, or 20 million Americans' healthcare--on the
night we are supposed to vote for a bill that the Congressional Budget
Office says will jack up insurance rates by 20 percent.
They wrote the bill in secret. They didn't have a single hearing in
the Senate--not one hearing in the Senate. Now it is 8:20 at night, and
there are people in my State who think they are going to lose their
health insurance because they might be one of those 16 million people
or they might have a kid or a parent who has a preexisting condition,
like the thousands of people who have contacted my office. They are
terrified, and they are not even on the floor, and they can't read the
bill. Read the bill.
Now we are told there is going to be a procedural trick that is going
to allow the House of Representatives to just pass this through over
the weekend.
That is a shameful way to run the Senate. It is exactly the opposite
of what the majority leader promised he would do when he was the
minority leader in the Senate. He is the one who said: If you can't get
a vote from the other side--if you can't get one vote from the other
side--you maybe should acknowledge that the American people aren't
behind your bill.
They can't even get all of the Republicans to vote for this. They had
to have Mike Pence, who is the Vice President, come here to break a
tie. What a disgrace to ask the executive branch to come here and save
your bacon because you can't get the votes. And there is not a
Democratic vote for this bill tonight because it doesn't meet the test
that the minority leader himself had.
I see my colleague from Michigan is here. I will yield the floor by
just saying that we should stop this catastrophe. The only thing we
know about this catastrophe is if it passes, there will be 16 million
people who lose their health insurance and a bunch of rates go up. If
we don't do it, that will not happen.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The time of the Democrats has expired.
Ms. STABENOW. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent for 5 minutes.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
Without objection, it is so ordered.
Ms. STABENOW. Mr. President, I want to support what my colleagues
have been saying on this floor. The reason we haven't seen a bill, the
reason we have no idea what is coming is that this is a political
exercise by the Republicans. It is about winning and losing. But for
people in the country, for people in Michigan, it is personal. This is
not a political game. This is personal. For everyone who cares about
their children and wants to make sure they can take them to the doctor;
if you have a mom with Alzheimer's and you might lose the ability to
have nursing home care; if you have cancer and know you may not be able
to get the full treatments that you need, this is personal. And, as has
been said, every single proposal of theirs is higher costs and less
coverage.
So we voted on what was behind door No. 1, which would gut Medicaid
healthcare. Three out of five Michigan
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seniors get their nursing home care from Medicaid. Half of the people
we see with Medicaid healthcare are children. All of the funds in the
first proposal would go to tax cuts for the wealthy few and
pharmaceutical companies and destabilize and undermine and raise costs
for everybody else. So that is door No. 1: higher costs, less coverage.
Then, when that didn't go forward, it was door No. 2. Door No. 2:
Repeal everything that was passed under the Affordable Care Act and
then say to folks somewhere down the road, we will figure out how to
replace it. That is higher costs and less coverage.
Now we are at door No. 3, and we don't know what is behind door No.
3. All we know for sure is that it will be higher costs and less
coverage.
Now, we as Democrats want just the opposite. We want to work together
with our Republican colleagues to lower costs--by the way, starting
with the outrageous increases in prescription drug costs. And we want
to increase coverage options, increase health insurance. That is what
we are all about. I believe--I know in Michigan--that is what people
want me to be focused on.
Are there problems in the current system? Of course, and we should
fix those, but we don't have to rip away healthcare and raise
everybody's costs 20 percent a year as is being talked about now in
order to fix the problems that are there.
I want to quote Senator McCain, who said that it is time to ``return
to regular order,'' work to reduce ``out-of-pocket costs,'' and learn
to ``trust each other'' again.
It is pretty tough to trust colleagues, to trust the majority, when
we aren't even given the respect of knowing what we are going to be
voting on. And it is not just--it is not about us. It is not about us
as individuals; it is about the fact that every person who is getting
cancer treatments right now needs to know what the U.S. Senate is going
to be voting on and have a chance to respond. Every person who cares
about their child, who cares about their parent in a nursing home, who
cares about their future has the right to know and to read a bill and
know what is going on.
I want to say in conclusion--I want to close with the words of Margo,
who manages a health clinic in Kent County in the western part of
Michigan. Margo knows the benefits of increased access to healthcare
because she sees it every day. She knows it is not political; it is
personal. There is nothing more personal than being able to take your
child to the doctor and get the healthcare you need or care for your
parents.
Margo wrote:
Seeing working people who have struggled all of their adult
lives to manage their chronic health conditions finally have
access to regular doctor visits, health education, and
prescription medications has been a tremendous relief. It is
amazing how different the lives of our patients are today
compared to what they were a few years ago.
She added: ``You can't imagine the sense of dignity the people I see
feel.''
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator's time has expired.
Ms. STABENOW. It is time to bring back some dignity to the U.S.
Senate.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Wyoming.
Mr. ENZI. Mr. President, I heard somebody say that nobody was
listening. Well, I was listening. I have read a little bit from this
book before on the floor about healthcare. It is called ``Demystifying
ObamaCare'' by David G. Brown, who is a doctor. He does a marvelous job
of going through the history of how we got to where we are.
He says, maybe we need to answer the question: ``What does ObamaCare
do? What does ObamaCare purport to do? What does ObamaCare not do?''
He says that those answers are relatively simple.
ObamaCare is not a system of healthcare, nor is it a
healthcare reform. It is a system of healthcare control.
ObamaCare was supposed to significantly reduce healthcare
costs, but instead it has dramatically increased costs for
even those who are not directly within the ObamaCare program.
ObamaCare was supposed to increase access to care, but
instead it can actually reduce access (availability) of care.
ObamaCare reduces the effectiveness of the safety net
program, which is so very important to economically poor
Americans.
The quality of healthcare in America was derided when
ObamaCare was passed, but ObamaCare instead reduces the
quality of U.S. healthcare by reducing innovation.
And then he says:
ObamaCare removes a person's ability to make his own
decisions about his healthcare and that of his family. It
does so by removing the freedom to make those decisions.
He continues that what we are trying to do is correct those problems
and get back to a system of healthcare where the patient and the doctor
get to make some of the decisions, where we encourage more people to be
in the system, where we expand the use of HSAs, refundable tax credits,
where we also allow people to buy insurance across State lines.
We could put money back into State high-level risk pools. In fact, I
really like the invisible risk pools that allow people to continue to
pay what they were paying before, but to get the unique care.
We could ``pass Medicaid to the States in terms of `block grants' or
`per capita allotments,' '' and we could ``partially privatize Medicare
starting in 2024 with the premium support system.''
That is not in the bill; I am reading suggestions that he gives,
including ``cap the amount for tax exclusions in higher cost employer-
based plans.''
Now, you need to know that in the proposals that we have been putting
out, in spite of what I have been hearing on this side, kids under 26
still get to be on their parents' insurance. We are not taking that
off. I keep hearing we are eliminating the preexisting conditions. We
are not. There hasn't been a proposal to eliminate the preexisting
conditions. So quit saying that. That is just fearmongering. As to
eliminating the lifetime caps on insurance, I haven't heard a proposal
for that. Also, allowing people to continue to be insured even if they
change jobs--that is what this guy wrote in the book, and I would like
for everybody to read it.
He said there are five factors that drive up healthcare costs. One is
taxes, another is mandates. Another is regulations. Another is lack of
competition and flexibility within the marketplace. As to the fifth
one, I don't know of anybody addressing yet, but it is the medical
liability system that encourages defensive medicine and drives the
costs up.
Seniors need to be protected. There needs to be an effective and
viable safety net system. Nobody is trying to work against that,
regardless of what you are hearing here.
I understand my time has expired. I have a lot more of the book I
would like to share, but I am not sure it is productive, anyway.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Democratic leader.
Mr. SCHUMER. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that before the
next amendment each side be given 2 minutes.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
Without objection, it is so ordered.
Motion to Commit
Mr. SCHUMER. Mr. President, I have a motion to commit at the desk.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will report the motion.
The senior assistant legislative clerk read as follows:
The Senator from New York [Mr. Schumer] moves to commit the
bill H.R. 1628 to the Committee on Finance with
instructions to report the same back to the Senate within
3 days, not counting any day on which the Senate is not in
session, with changes that--
(1) are within the jurisdiction of such committee; and
(2) strike the subsequent effective date in the repeal of
the tax on employee health insurance premiums and health plan
benefits, which reinstates the tax in later years.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The question is on the Schumer motion to
commit.
Mr. SCHUMER. Mr. President, I ask for the yeas and nays.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there a sufficient second?
There appears to be a sufficient second.
The clerk will call the roll.
The senior assistant legislative clerk called the roll.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Are there any other Senators in the Chamber
desiring to vote?
The result was announced--yeas 43, nays 57, as follows:
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[Rollcall Vote No. 176 Leg.]
YEAS--43
Baldwin
Bennet
Blumenthal
Booker
Brown
Cantwell
Cardin
Carper
Casey
Coons
Cortez Masto
Donnelly
Duckworth
Feinstein
Franken
Harris
Hassan
Heinrich
Heitkamp
Hirono
King
Klobuchar
Leahy
Manchin
Markey
McCaskill
Menendez
Merkley
Murray
Nelson
Peters
Reed
Sanders
Schatz
Schumer
Shaheen
Stabenow
Tester
Udall
Van Hollen
Warren
Whitehouse
Wyden
NAYS--57
Alexander
Barrasso
Blunt
Boozman
Burr
Capito
Cassidy
Cochran
Collins
Corker
Cornyn
Cotton
Crapo
Cruz
Daines
Durbin
Enzi
Ernst
Fischer
Flake
Gardner
Gillibrand
Graham
Grassley
Hatch
Heller
Hoeven
Inhofe
Isakson
Johnson
Kaine
Kennedy
Lankford
Lee
McCain
McConnell
Moran
Murkowski
Murphy
Paul
Perdue
Portman
Risch
Roberts
Rounds
Rubio
Sasse
Scott
Shelby
Strange
Sullivan
Thune
Tillis
Toomey
Warner
Wicker
Young
The motion was rejected.
Amendment No. 502
The PRESIDING OFFICER. There is now 2 minutes equally divided prior
to the vote on the Heller amendment.
The Senator from Nevada.
Mr. HELLER. Mr. President, my amendment at the desk, Heller amendment
No. 502, repeals the Cadillac Tax, plain and simple. No gimmicks. It
repeals the Cadillac Tax, plain and simple. This is a bipartisan issue
with bipartisan support. Under these circumstances, it is probably
appropriate that we have a bipartisan issue that is here in front of
us.
I would like to thank Senator Heinrich, my friend from New Mexico,
for his hard work and effort on behalf of this particular issue. He has
worked hard.
This is an issue that is well-endorsed. We have the endorsement of
organized labor, chambers of commerce, local and State governments, and
small business organizations. They all supported repealing this very
bad and onerous tax. Over 83 groups have endorsed full repeal. They are
saying the same thing--that the Cadillac tax needs to be fully
repealed, or employees will experience massive changes in their
healthcare.
Previously, this Chamber has voted nearly unanimously to support this
full repeal.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator's time has expired.
Mr. HELLER. Thank you, Mr. President.
I would ask support from my colleagues on this Heller amendment.
Thank you.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Democratic leader.
Mr. SCHUMER. Mr. President, first on the issue before us, most
Democrats--the vast majority--are for repeal of the Cadillac tax. We
are not for many of the other provisions being put forward. This
requires the two to be tied together. We are for repealing the Cadillac
tax but not harming the healthcare of millions of Americans.
I want to make another point, especially to my friends, Senators
McCain, Graham, Johnson, and Cassidy, who said correctly that the
skinny bill was totally inadequate and they would require assurances
from the House.
Let me first read what Mr. Ryan said: ``If moving forward requires a
conference committee, that is something the House is willing to do.''
That is not worth anything--only if moving forward is required.
But I make another point that makes the case proof positive that this
bill could pass and there is no assurance from the House. The House
Rules Committee. There was a motion to limit the waiver of clause 6(a)
of rule XIII--
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator's time has expired.
Mr. SCHUMER. I ask unanimous consent for 30 seconds.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. SCHUMER. To limit it just for motions to go to conference;
rejected 4 to 9.
If the House was intent on going to conference, they would have voted
for this rule. It means they want to pass this bill, this skinny
repeal, and send it to the President.
I would urge my four colleagues and all the others to vote no until
they get that assurance.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The question is on agreeing to the amendment.
Mr. HELLER. Mr. President, I ask for the yeas and nays.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there a sufficient second?
There appears to be a sufficient second.
The clerk will call the roll.
The bill clerk called the roll.
The result was announced--yeas 52, nays 48, as follows:
[Rollcall Vote No. 177 Leg.]
YEAS--52
Alexander
Barrasso
Blunt
Boozman
Burr
Capito
Cassidy
Cochran
Collins
Cornyn
Cortez Masto
Cotton
Crapo
Cruz
Daines
Enzi
Ernst
Fischer
Flake
Gardner
Graham
Grassley
Hatch
Heinrich
Heller
Hoeven
Inhofe
Isakson
Johnson
Kennedy
Lankford
Lee
McCain
McConnell
Moran
Murkowski
Paul
Perdue
Portman
Risch
Roberts
Rounds
Rubio
Scott
Shelby
Strange
Sullivan
Thune
Tillis
Toomey
Wicker
Young
NAYS--48
Baldwin
Bennet
Blumenthal
Booker
Brown
Cantwell
Cardin
Carper
Casey
Coons
Corker
Donnelly
Duckworth
Durbin
Feinstein
Franken
Gillibrand
Harris
Hassan
Heitkamp
Hirono
Kaine
King
Klobuchar
Leahy
Manchin
Markey
McCaskill
Menendez
Merkley
Murphy
Murray
Nelson
Peters
Reed
Sanders
Sasse
Schatz
Schumer
Shaheen
Stabenow
Tester
Udall
Van Hollen
Warner
Warren
Whitehouse
Wyden
The amendment (No. 502) was agreed to.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The majority leader.
Amendment No. 667 to Amendment No. 267
(Purpose: Of a perfecting nature.)
Mr. McCONNELL. Mr. President, I call up amendment No. 667.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will report.
The legislative clerk read as follows:
The Senator from Kentucky [Mr. McConnell] proposes an
amendment numbered 667 to amendment No. 267.
Strike all after the first word and insert the following:
SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the ``Health Care Freedom Act of
2017''.
TITLE I
SEC. 101. INDIVIDUAL MANDATE.
(a) In General.--Section 5000A(c) of the Internal Revenue
Code of 1986 is amended--
(1) in paragraph (2)(B)(iii), by striking ``2.5 percent''
and inserting ``Zero percent'', and
(2) in paragraph (3)--
(A) by striking ``$695'' in subparagraph (A) and inserting
``$0'', and
(B) by striking subparagraph (D).
(b) Effective Date.--The amendments made by this section
shall apply to months beginning after December 31, 2015.
SEC. 102. EMPLOYER MANDATE.
(a) In General.--
(1) Paragraph (1) of section 4980H(c) of the Internal
Revenue Code of 1986 is amended by inserting ``($0 in the
case of months beginning after December 31, 2015, and before
January 1, 2025)'' after ``$2,000''.
(2) Paragraph (1) of section 4980H(b) of the Internal
Revenue Code of 1986 is amended by inserting ``($0 in the
case of months beginning after December 31, 2015, and before
January 1, 2025)'' after ``$3,000''.
(b) Effective Date.--The amendments made by this section
shall apply to months beginning after December 31, 2015.
SEC. 103. EXTENSION OF MORATORIUM ON MEDICAL DEVICE EXCISE
TAX.
(a) In General.--Section 4191(c) of the Internal Revenue
Code of 1986 is amended by striking ``December 31, 2017'' and
inserting ``December 31, 2020''.
(b) Effective Date.--The amendment made by this section
shall apply to sales after December 31, 2017.
SEC. 104. MAXIMUM CONTRIBUTION LIMIT TO HEALTH SAVINGS
ACCOUNT INCREASED TO AMOUNT OF DEDUCTIBLE AND
OUT-OF-POCKET LIMITATION.
(a) In General.--Subsection (b) of section 223 of the
Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended by adding at the end
the following new paragraph:
``(9) Increased limitation.--In the case of any month
beginning after December 31, 2017, and before January 1,
2021--
``(A) paragraph (2)(A) shall be applied by substituting
`the amount in effect under subsection (c)(2)(A)(ii)(I)' for
`$2,250', and
``(B) paragraph (2)(B) shall be applied by substituting
`the amount in effect under subsection (c)(2)(A)(ii)(II)' for
`$4,500'.''.
(b) Effective Date.--The amendment made by this section
shall apply to taxable years beginning after December 31,
2017.
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SEC. 105. FEDERAL PAYMENTS TO STATES.
(a) In General.--Notwithstanding section 504(a),
1902(a)(23), 1903(a), 2002, 2005(a)(4), 2102(a)(7), or
2105(a)(1) of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. 704(a),
1396a(a)(23), 1396b(a), 1397a, 1397d(a)(4), 1397bb(a)(7),
1397ee(a)(1)), or the terms of any Medicaid waiver in effect
on the date of enactment of this Act that is approved under
section 1115 or 1915 of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C.
1315, 1396n), for the 1-year period beginning on the date of
enactment of this Act, no Federal funds provided from a
program referred to in this subsection that is considered
direct spending for any year may be made available to a State
for payments to a prohibited entity, whether made directly to
the prohibited entity or through a managed care organization
under contract with the State.
(b) Definitions.--In this section:
(1) Prohibited entity.--The term ``prohibited entity''
means an entity, including its affiliates, subsidiaries,
successors, and clinics--
(A) that, as of the date of enactment of this Act--
(i) is an organization described in section 501(c)(3) of
the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 and exempt from tax under
section 501(a) of such Code;
(ii) is an essential community provider described in
section 156.235 of title 45, Code of Federal Regulations (as
in effect on the date of enactment of this Act), that is
primarily engaged in family planning services, reproductive
health, and related medical care; and
(iii) provides for abortions, other than an abortion--
(I) if the pregnancy is the result of an act of rape or
incest; or
(II) in the case where a woman suffers from a physical
disorder, physical injury, or physical illness that would, as
certified by a physician, place the woman in danger of death
unless an abortion is performed, including a life-endangering
physical condition caused by or arising from the pregnancy
itself; and
(B) for which the total amount of Federal and State
expenditures under the Medicaid program under title XIX of
the Social Security Act in fiscal year 2014 made directly to
the entity and to any affiliates, subsidiaries, successors,
or clinics of the entity, or made to the entity and to any
affiliates, subsidiaries, successors, or clinics of the
entity as part of a nationwide health care provider network,
exceeded $1,000,000.
(2) Direct spending.--The term ``direct spending'' has the
meaning given that term under section 250(c) of the Balanced
Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985 (2 U.S.C.
900(c)).
TITLE II
SEC. 201. THE PREVENTION AND PUBLIC HEALTH FUND.
Subsection (b) of section 4002 of the Patient Protection
and Affordable Care Act (42 U.S.C. 300u-11) is amended--
(1) in paragraph (3), by striking ``each of fiscal years
2018 and 2019'' and inserting ``fiscal year 2018''; and
(2) by striking paragraphs (4) through (8).
SEC. 202. COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER PROGRAM.
Effective as if included in the enactment of the Medicare
Access and CHIP Reauthorization Act of 2015 (Public Law 114-
10, 129 Stat. 87), paragraph (1) of section 221(a) of such
Act is amended by inserting ``, and an additional
$422,000,000 for fiscal year 2017'' after ``2017''.
SEC. 203. WAIVERS FOR STATE INNOVATION.
Section 1332 of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care
Act (42 U.S.C. 18052) is amended--
(1) in subsection (a)(3)--
(A) in the first sentence, by inserting ``or would qualify
for a reduction in'' after ``would not qualify for'';
(B) by adding after the second sentence the following: ``A
State may request that all of, or any portion of, such
aggregate amount of such credits or reductions be paid to the
State as described in the first sentence.'';
(C) in the paragraph heading, by striking ``Pass through of
funding'' and inserting ``Funding'';
(D) by striking ``With respect'' and inserting the
following:
``(A) Pass through of funding.--With respect''; and
(E) by adding at the end the following:
``(B) Additional funding.--There is authorized to be
appropriated, and is appropriated, to the Secretary of Health
and Human Services, out of monies in the Treasury not
otherwise obligated, $2,000,000,000, to remain available
until the end of fiscal year 2019. Such amounts shall be used
to provide grants to States that request financial assistance
for the purpose of--
``(i) submitting an application for a waiver granted under
this section; or
``(ii) implementing the State plan under such waiver.'';
(2) in subsection (b)(1), in the matter preceding
subparagraph (A)--
(A) by striking ``may'' and inserting ``shall''; and
(B) by striking ``only'';
(3) in subsection (d)(1), by striking ``180'' and inserting
``45''; and
(4) in subsection (e), by striking ``No waiver'' and all
that follows through the period at the end and inserting the
following: ``A waiver under this section--
``(1) shall be in effect for a period of 8 years unless the
State requests a shorter duration;
``(2) may be renewed for unlimited additional 8-year
periods upon application by the State; and
``(3) may not be cancelled by the Secretary before the
expiration of the 8-year period (including any renewal period
under paragraph (2)).''.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Toomey). The majority leader.
Mr. McCONNELL. Mr. President, the legislation I just laid down is
called the Health Care Freedom Act, and it restores freedom to
Americans that ObamaCare took away. It does so in a number of ways.
First, the Health Care Freedom Act repeals the core pillars of
ObamaCare. It eliminates the so-called individual mandate that forces
many Americans to buy ObamaCare insurance they don't want, can't
afford, or can't use, and taxes those who don't. It also repeals the
employer mandate that cuts hours, take-home pay, and job opportunities
for workers.
Second, the Health Care Freedom Act provides significant new
flexibility to States. The Health Care Freedom Act gives States just
the kind of flexibility they need to implement reforms that provide
more options for consumers to buy the health insurance they actually
want. These reforms also help make insurance more affordable and
flexible so it is something Americans actually want to buy.
Finally, the Health Care Freedom Act frees Americans from ObamaCare
in several other ways too. It provides 3 years of relief from the
medical device tax, which increases costs, hurts innovation, and has
drawn significant criticism from both sides of the aisle. It expands,
for 3 years, the contribution limits to health savings accounts so
Americans can better manage their health costs and pay down more of
their medical expenses like prescriptions with pretax dollars.
Also, the legislation will prioritize funding for women's health
through community health centers instead of large abortion providers
and political organizations.
The American people have suffered under ObamaCare for too long. It is
time to end the failed status quo. It is time to send legislation to
the President which will finally move our country beyond the failures
of ObamaCare. Passing this legislation will allow us to work with our
colleagues in the House toward a final bill that could go to the
President, repeal ObamaCare, and undo its damage.
I urge everyone to support it.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that Senator Murray or her
designee be recognized to offer a motion to commit; further, that the
remaining time be equally divided between the managers or their
designees.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Kennedy). Is there objection?
Without objection, it is so ordered.
The Senator from Washington.
Motion to Commit
Mrs. MURRAY. Mr. President, I move to commit H.R. 1628 to the
Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions with instructions
to report the same back to the Senate within 3 days, not counting any
day on which the Senate is not in session, with changes that are within
the jurisdiction of such committee.
Mr. President, after months of secret negotiations and backroom deals
and shutting out patients and families and women and Democrats and even
many Republicans from the process, Republican leaders continue to say
they are planning to force a vote on this latest TrumpCare bill
tonight--a bill even Republicans admit would throw our markets into
turmoil. It is going to kick millions of people off of care, it is
going to raise premiums for millions of families, it will eliminate
healthcare for women across the country, and so much more--none of it
good.
It does not have to be this way. In fact, Republicans can still
reverse this course. They can drop this once and for all and join with
Democrats to get to work to actually improve healthcare, to reduce
costs, to increase access, and to improve quality. We can start over
with an open, transparent process, in which both sides--Democrats and
Republicans--have a voice and one in which patients and families can
make sure their priorities are being addressed.
Now, I know many of our Republican colleagues prefer this bipartisan
route. We have heard them say it. They have said it over and over in
their votes to reject the partisan TrumpCare bill and
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full repeal bills this week, in their discussions of hearings we should
be holding, and in their comments even over the past few hours, laying
out how devastating this bill would be for patients and healthcare
markets and making it clear they do not trust the House to not simply
pass whatever moves through the Senate.
So I call on Republicans now to join us. Let's do what my colleague,
the senior Senator from Arizona, and so many others have bravely called
for. With this motion, we will send it back to the committee, where we
can debate it, where we can work together, where we can do what is
right for the people we represent.
I urge my colleagues to support this motion to commit in the way that
Republicans and Democrats have been talking about. I can personally
assure every one of you that I will work with you--and I know other
Democrats will as well--if we reject this process and send it back with
this motion to commit to do it the right way, the respectful way.
Mr. President, I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Connecticut.
Mr. MURPHY. Mr. President, this process is an embarrassment. This is
nuclear-grade bonkers what is happening here tonight.
We are about to reorder one-fifth of the American healthcare system,
and we are going to have 2 hours to review a bill which, at first
blush, stands essentially as healthcare system arson.
This bill is lighting the American healthcare system on fire with
intentionality. To use the word ``freedom'' at its center--there is
freedom in this bill. There is the freedom to go bankrupt, there is the
freedom to get sick and not be able to find a doctor, and there is
freedom in this bill to die early. That is not hyperbole. That is what
happens when, overnight, 16 million people lose insurance.
Don't tell us that is because people all of a sudden will not be
mandated to buy it. This is a vicious cycle that happens. When you get
rid of the mandate, every insurance company will tell you that rates
skyrocket because you are not getting rid of the provision that
requires insurance companies to price sick people the same as healthy
people. CBO says that rates go up immediately by 20 percent and then 20
percent after that and then 20 percent after that. So all of a sudden
you can't have the individual mandate because nobody can afford to buy
the product.
There is a lot of freedom in this bill, it is just not the kind of
freedom we all thought was at the heart of this reform measure. This is
real life. It is not a game.
I know lots of Members on the Republican side are voting for this
because they have some promise that even though this bill is terrible--
and everybody admits it doesn't solve any problems--it will get to a
forum in which the problems can be truly solved. That is gamesmanship.
That is not senatorial. That is not what this place was supposed to be.
This was supposed to be the great deliberative body where we solved big
problems, and this bill surrenders to the House of Representatives.
Let's just be honest about what is going to happen when this bill
gets to the House. Maybe there will be a conference committee, but it
will not resolve any of the problems which have been inherent in the
Republican conference here in the Senate. In fact, those problems will
get worse because you will inject the Freedom Caucus into a Republican
conference here that alone wasn't able to come to a conclusion. They
will argue for a couple weeks, maybe a month, and then the House will
decide to proceed with a vote on this bill.
There is nothing in the rules that locks this bill into the
conference committee once it is there. The House can pick it up out of
that conference committee and move it to a vote--and they will do that
because none of the problems that were solved here will be solved
there.
We have seen this happen before. Remember the budget stalemate in
which this hammer of sequestration was created, and the supercommittee
was supposed to solve all the problems the House and the Senate
couldn't? They didn't, and now we are stuck with sequestration--
something nobody thought would happen. This is the same thing.
This will not be a hammer sufficient enough to solve the dysfunction
which has always been present in this process. Thus, the conference
will be doomed, and this bill will become law--raising rates for
everyone, locking millions of people out of the system of insurance,
with no answer for the parents of those disabled kids who have been
begging to get into Senators' offices. This isn't a game. This is real
life. If this bill becomes law, real people will be hurt.
We are begging our colleagues to vote for the motion to commit. Take
us at our word. We want to work with you. We acknowledge there are
still problems that need to be solved, though we maintain there are
parts of the Affordable Care Act that are working. What if we owned the
problem and the solution together? What if this wasn't a perpetual
political football? There is still time for us to work this out
together if you support us and vote for the motion to commit.
This process is an embarrassment to the U.S. Senate. This isn't why
we all came here--and don't delude yourself into thinking that this
bill you are voting on will not become law. There is a very good chance
that it will, and the end result will be absolute devastation and
humanitarian catastrophe visited upon this country.
It doesn't have to be this way.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Montana.
Mr. TESTER. Mr. President, it has been an amazing process. I have
been here a little over 10 years, and I have never seen anything like
this.
We voted cloture a few days ago to move to debate. Nothing. Now we
have a bill here today that as Senator Murphy has already pointed out,
will rip healthcare away from millions of people, increase premiums by
20 percent a year, and basically solve none of the problems that are
out there that need to be solved that affect Americans every day,
especially rural Americans.
I must thank the Senator from Washington, Mrs. Murray, for the motion
to take this back to committee. This is where we should have started.
We should have started in the committee process like our forefathers
had designed this place to work, the greatest deliberative body in the
world, but it didn't. Every bill has been drafted by a select few in a
backroom, with no input from anybody, especially people from rural
America. So it is really time, folks, to open this process up.
As I have gone around the State of Montana--and I have for the last 8
months--talking to folks about healthcare in rural America, they are
very nervous. I am going to tell you something. If people cannot pay
their bills because they don't have health insurance or they don't have
the money, it is going to put these small hospitals at risk, these
rural hospitals at risk.
I will tell you a little bit about the town I grew up in. This is a
town where my grandparents homesteaded over 100 years ago. From the
time of the homestead era until the midsixties, they didn't have a
hospital. Their hospital was the top floor of a place that sold dry
goods. In the midsixties, they finally scratched up enough money, and
they built a hospital.
Big Sandy is not near as big today as it was back then. I am going to
tell you, the hospital administrators from these small hospitals, the
folks in the Montana Hospital Association have told me that if charity
care goes up, they could close and at a bare minimum change their
method of delivery for healthcare.
What does that do to a small town? Oftentimes, the hospital is the
largest employer in that town. They usually fight with the school
district for that honor. You take the hospital out, you take the heart
and soul out of that community.
You want to see a mass exodus from rural America, even bigger than it
has been over the last 50 years? Pass this bill. Pass this bill.
This isn't about numbers, and it isn't about words; it is about
people. Big Sandy is not unique. Every rural town in the State of
Montana that has a hospital is in that position. It is the same thing
in Wyoming. It is the same thing in North and South Dakota. It is
probably the same thing in more urban States that have rural areas,
where these small hospitals will be put at risk of closure. It is not
right.
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I am going to tell you that if we follow the process that should be
followed in this great body, we would take this healthcare bill and put
it back in committee, have a debate, listen to ideas from everybody,
rural and urban alike--farmers and ranchers, businesspeople, healthcare
professionals, families, doctors, nurses--and we could come up with a
bill that could work for this country. But that is simply not the case
here tonight, and we should not be proud of this at all.
Our forefathers set up a great system that can work, and the majority
has chosen to ignore that system. It is a disgrace to the Senate.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. (Mr. Toomey). Who yields time?
The Senator from Ohio.
Mr. BROWN. Mr. President, let's look at how all this started. Right
down this hall, a few months ago, Senator McConnell, a handful of
Republican Senators, the drug lobbyists, insurance company lobbyists,
and Wall Street lobbyists met in that office behind closed doors. Most
Republican Senators didn't know what was happening, no Democratic
Senators knew what was happening, and the American public didn't know
what was happening.
This bill--written by drug companies, insurance companies, and Wall
Street--was sent to the Senate floor, was discussed, and, alas, it was
big tax cuts for the drug companies and the insurance companies.
When you think about this, you have U.S. Senators who get taxpayer-
subsidized insurance, Senators who get insurance provided by taxpayers
who are going to rip it away from potentially 700-, 800-, 900,000
Ohioans.
I stand with Governor Kasich. Governor Kasich said: You don't pass
legislation--you don't meet in the majority's leader's office down the
hall here, write legislation with drug company and insurance company
lobbyists, and then take Medicaid away, take insurance away, disrupt
the insurance markets. You just don't do things that way.
A professor of healthcare finance at Case Western in Cleveland wrote
yesterday that millions would lose coverage and that middle-income
Americans would be ``priced out of the market.''
If I could talk for a moment about what happens to individuals,
yesterday I was on the phone with Donna May from Gahanna, OH. She told
me:
My mother is 91 years old. She worked hard all her life.
I'm 73 years old and still work. Without Medicaid, or even
large cuts in Medicaid, I will not be able to care for my
Mom.
Donna and so many others pay into Social Security. They pay into
Medicare. They pay into unemployment insurance. And then this Congress
is going to cut their Medicaid. This Congress is going to take money
away from them when they need it, when they run out of money at the end
of their lives and they are in nursing homes. Is that what we stand for
as a country?
In Toledo, I talked to Kelly Peterson. Her dad is in a nursing home
and relies on Medicare. She told me:
My family would be devastated by these proposed cuts to
Medicaid. My dad worked in the auto industry and paid into
the system 30 years. Now when he needs it most, conservatives
in Congress want to take it all away.
Again, these people paid into Social Security. They paid into
Medicare. Now we are going to take their insurance away from them as
they grow older. A bunch of Members of Congress who have insurance
provided by taxpayers think it is morally OK to strip the insurance
from millions of people in our States.
Again, I side with Governor Kasich. I am a Democrat. He is a
Republican. He is as repulsed as I am that down this hall, Senator
McConnell and Republican leadership, with the drug and insurance
company lobbyists, wrote this bill.
I stand with Governor Kasich, who wants to do a simple thing: Stop
this outrageous attempt tonight. Sit down with Republicans and
Democrats in both parties. I could sit with Senator Portman. We could
come up with legislation to fix the Affordable Care Act; to encourage
more young, healthy people into the insurance pools; to stabilize the
insurance market; to go after the outrageous cost of prescription
drugs; maybe even to open up Medicare eligibility for people between 55
and 64. It is not complicated.
The special interests have taken over this Chamber. We should be
ashamed of ourselves. We ought to do this right. I ask my colleagues to
vote yes on the Murray motion to recommit.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from West Virginia.
Mr. MANCHIN. Mr. President, I rise in support of the motion to commit
by my friend from the State of Washington. Let me tell you why.
We have a problem that most all of you have in your States, which is
opioids. This opioid addiction that goes on is affecting everybody--not
just Democrats, not just Republicans. I don't care whether you are poor
or rich or whether you are conservative or liberal--it has no base at
all; it is a silent killer.
For the first time, under the Affordable Care Act, we are able to get
some treatment. We have not been able to do that before. The only
treatment people have gotten before--when a parent comes to you and
says: I just have to hope my child--if my child gets arrested, they can
go into drug court, and maybe they can get some care, some treatment.
For the first time, through Medicaid, we can give treatment for
opioid addiction. We never had this chance before, never had this
opportunity. It is really lifesaving for these people. It gets them
back into the workforce, too, and they can clean up their lives. They
really want this done.
We are talking about 33,000 Americans who lost their lives in 2015.
In any other scenario, that would be an epidemic or a pandemic. Here we
go. We still don't have any adequate treatment centers. We have no way
that we can go forward and fight this illness. We sit here and talk
about it.
Now we are talking about, well, we know 16 million people are going
to be thrown off. We know that. We know the premiums will go up 20
percent.
Some one said: You know, you can still have preexisting conditions.
We are going to take care of them. They can find it. It is available.
I have said this before: A Rolls Royce is available to me; I just
can't afford to buy it. That is what we are going to be faced with.
But this is fixable. What we have said about fixable, we as
Democrats--there are those of us in this body who will sit down--as
Senator Murray has said--will sit down tonight. We will start tonight
if you want to and look at ways we can make this more effective, more
beneficial for everybody.
When you think about the reinsurance, we know it has worked in
Alaska. The Affordable Care Act--the so-called ObamaCare--has been out
long enough now that we know where the problems are, we know where the
fixes need to be, and we know how do it. We have seen Alaska do
something that looks very promising.
Also, when Vice President Pence was Governor in Indiana, they did a
Medicaid expansion in Indiana. They are putting in accountability and
responsibility. It has great effects. My good friend Mitch Daniels was
the Governor at the time they put this plan into place, and it has
worked and worked well.
We are willing to sit and talk. These are good things. We think we
can make this happen. We have been shut down at every turn. I have
said: This is not how we were taught in West Virginia. It is not how we
do business. We sit down and work through it.
I don't care what side of the aisle you are on--we came here to do
the right thing for the country. We are all Americans. We all have
something in common. We are all on the same team, I hope, and that is
Team America. Let's fix this.
Let me tell you what will happen if you don't fix it. Let me tell you
what will happen for the people who lose it. Do you know where they go
back to? And I don't know why people think there is a savings involved.
They are going back to the emergency room.
When I was Governor, every year they came to me and said: Governor
Manchin, we need $12 million for a rural hospital. We gave all this
charity care away.
They are going to go back to that. Do you think that is quality?
There is no preventive care. There is no planning. There is nothing to
help these people
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have a better quality of life. We are going to pay again. We are going
pay dearly for this. We are not going to have any chance to get people
back in the workforce.
All we are asking for, please vote for Senator Murray's motion to
recommit. Give us a chance to do what we were sent here to do. Let's
work the legislation. Let's sit down and find the commonality that we
can find as Americans and move forward with a piece of legislation that
can change people's lives, that can save people's lives and can give
them hope again for the first time. That is all we are asking for.
I would ask each and every one of us to search our souls and our
hearts while we are here, what we are here to do, what our purpose of
being here is, and give us a chance to fix a healthcare system that
needs to be fixed but also needs to be available for the people in my
great State of West Virginia and everyone in this great country.
With that, Mr. President, I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Rhode Island.
Mr. WHITEHOUSE. Mr. President, this bill is the product of the most
secretive and partisan process I have seen in my 10 years in the
Senate. Who did the magicians who came up with this listen to? They
obviously didn't listen to the doctors. The American Medical
Association is opposed to this. The American Pediatric Society is
opposed to this. The American Academy of Family Physicians is opposed
to this. Certainly the doctors didn't get a chance to get heard in this
process.
How about the hospitals? The American Hospital Association is opposed
to this. Catholic hospitals are opposed to this. Rural hospitals are
warning that this could end their very existence. Let's have a process
that gives the hospitals a chance to be listened to.
The nurses in Rhode Island are opposed to this. I think nurses around
the country are opposed to this. Why not have an open process that
gives the nurses a chance to be heard?
Our community health centers are opposed to this. They have been to
Washington to say: Please don't do this. You will be hurting real
people whom we care for.
Illness advocacy groups--the people they are fighting for are stuck
in this healthcare system with serious illnesses. Did we listen to the
American Cancer Society? No. Did we listen to the American Lung
Association? No. We didn't even listen to the hemophilia group, for
Pete's sake. Addiction treatment groups are against this.
We have listened to nobody. We didn't even listen to the Republican
Governors, let alone the Democratic Governors, like my Governor, who is
telling me: We are working fine. We having people on Medicaid. Our
exchanges are working.
Why fire this torpedo into perfectly working exchanges when we can be
working on fixing the few where it is not working?
Why are we here? Who is behind this? Who was telling the little group
of magicians in their secretive back room what to do? This is what
happens when a party becomes beholden to a small handful of creepy
billionaires and stops listening to the people. They are conducting a
freakish social experiment on other people's health coverage, because
you can bet those billionaires have all the coverage they need, but
they have this ideology about taking coverage away from people by the
millions. And our Republican friends are standing up in lockstep to
march the billionaire march on a bill that everybody hates and that
will cause damage in everybody's home State. And it doesn't matter
because the billionaires have the dark money, the dark money floods our
politics, and everybody marches to the tune of the anonymous
billionaires.
We could be doing great things. We could be solving the known problem
of end-of-life care and making sure people get their wishes honored at
that precious time. We could be dealing with opioid and behavioral
health issues that are bedeviling communities across this country. We
could be helping doctors with payment reform that lets them treat
people in a way that keeps them healthier, rather than having to wait
to be paid until they do stuff to people--running up the cost of
healthcare.
We could be dealing with hospital-acquired infections. How many
people know someone who had a hospital-acquired infection, which brings
enormous costs into the system as you have to treat it? Do we address
that? No, because we didn't bother to listen to the hospitals.
We could do something about pharmaceutical prices. People in America
are irate about jacked-up pharmaceutical prices, driven up by people
who aren't even in the drug manufacturing industry but are just
speculating on their ability to use monopoly pricing to drive up
prices. But they put money into the system, so they get what they want.
This bill is a nightmare in and of its own, and it is a colossal
missed opportunity to do something good for the American people that
will actually help them. So let's support Senator Murray's motion to
recommit and just try the regular order that the majority leader has
proclaimed he was a champion of for year after year, until the creepy
billionaires said to him: We are giving you the money; this is the bill
we want. We don't care about those people or those hospitals. Shove it
through because it suits our ideology.
This is no way to govern. Give the people, the hospitals, the
doctors, the nurses, the community health centers, and the people
suffering from illnesses at least a chance to be heard in some kind of
open environment.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Vermont.
Mr. SANDERS. Mr. President, at last count, I think it was the Gallup
poll that found 12 percent of the American people had confidence in the
U.S. Congress. I think we are on our way tonight to single digits
because in the modern history of this country there has never been a
process as absurd as what we are seeing right here.
We are talking about legislation that impacts one-sixth of the
American economy--over $3 trillion. We are talking about legislation,
because it is healthcare, that impacts every man, woman, and child in
this country.
Mr. President, maybe you can help me. How many public hearings have
we had dealing with legislation that is of enormous significance to
tens of millions of people? Well, I will help you with the answer:
There have been zero hearings.
What impact will this legislation have on doctors who are trying to
treat us every day? One might think that we would hear from the doctors
of the American Medical Association to tell us how this legislation
would impact their work. We have not had one public hearing to hear
from one doctor.
What has the American Hospital Association had to say about how this
legislation would impact rural hospitals in America, many of which may
close down? They have not had one moment, one opportunity to say one
word on this legislation.
We are proceeding here with major legislation written behind closed
doors by a handful of Republicans. Most Republicans have not been
involved in this process, let alone Democrats, let alone the American
people.
By the way, when we think of the American people, how do they feel
about this legislation? Well, the last poll that I saw was USA Today.
They had 12 percent of the American people thinking that this
legislation makes sense. Well, maybe the American people got it wrong.
How do the major healthcare organizations in America feel about this
legislation--the people who are on the cutting edge, the people who do
the work every day? Well, guess what. The AMA, the American Medical
Association, is opposed; the American Hospital Association is opposed;
AARP, the largest senior group in America, is opposed because they know
the horrendous impact this will have in raising premiums for older
workers; the American Cancer Society is opposed; the American Heart
Association is opposed; the American Academy of Family Physicians is
opposed; the American Academy of Pediatrics is opposed; the American
Psychiatric Association is opposed. Virtually every major national
healthcare organization is opposed to this disastrous legislation.
So the American people are opposed, and the healthcare organizations
all across this country are opposed. The bill was written behind closed
doors. Yet, under those circumstances, they want to bring it to the
floor for a vote.
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Now, what most Americans are sitting around and thinking--they are
saying: Look, the Affordable Care Act has done some good things. Before
the Affordable Care Act, we had some 50 million people without any
health insurance. The Affordable Care Act provided insurance for about
20 million people. That is no small thing.
In the majority leader's own State of Kentucky, the rate of uninsured
went from 20 percent down to 7 percent. That is pretty good--not great,
but it is pretty good. In West Virginia, the rate of uninsured went way
down. We have seen 20 million people gain insurance. We have dealt with
the Affordable Care Act under a total obscenity; that is, if somebody
had a serious illness--breast cancer, diabetes--they could not get
insurance at an affordable cost because of a preexisting condition. How
insane is that? The American people said that is nonsense. What is the
function of insurance if not to cover us when we need it the most for
those illnesses that we have had? We ended that absurdity. That was a
good thing. The Affordable Care Act has done other very important
things.
Have you heard one Member of this body say that the Affordable Care
Act is perfect? Have you heard one person here say that the Affordable
Care Act does not need to be improved? Of course, it does. Right now,
throughout this country--in my State of Vermont and all over this
country--deductibles are too high. I have talked to people with $5,000,
$10,000 deductibles. They can't go to the doctor when they should. We
have to lower deductibles. Copayments are too high. Premiums are too
high.
I will tell you something else. Donald Trump ran for President, and
he campaigned, and he said: I am going to stand with the working people
of this country. Prescription drug costs are too high. I am going to
take on the pharmaceutical industry. We are going to lower prescription
drug costs in America. Today, if you can believe it, one out of five
Americans under 65 cannot afford to fill the prescription their doctors
write. Today, somebody walked into a pharmacy and found that the cost
of the medicine they have been using for 10 years has doubled, maybe
tripled, because we have no legislation that stops the drug companies
from charging us anything they want. And they will charge us anything
they want. The result is, we have the highest prices in the world for
prescription drugs.
Those are the problems that the American people want answers to:
Deductibles are too high, premiums are too high, copayments are too
high, and prescription drug costs are too high. We are not doing enough
good work in primary healthcare. Too many people, even with insurance,
cannot find the doctors they need. There are many other problems. Those
are what the American people want us to solve.
This legislation only makes a very bad situation worse. How do you
improve healthcare in America when you throw 16 million people off of
the health insurance they currently have? How do you improve healthcare
in America when, according to the CBO, premiums are going to go up 20
percent every year? Let's get that clear: 20 percent on January 1,
another 20 percent the following year--that is 40 percent--and another
20 percent the year after. Do you think this is really improving
healthcare, bringing freedom to the American people? I think not.
So what is the solution? The solution is--I know this is a radical
idea--that maybe we should do what the American people want us to do
and not what special, powerful interests want, not what billionaire
campaign contributors want--whose rightwing ideology wants to end
government services for working families all across this country.
I hope that we will have the common sense and the decency to sit
down, throw the problems on the table, and then resolve them. I think
we can do that. That is why we have to end this absurd process. We have
to go back to regular order, which simply means go back to the
committee.
I am a member of the Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions
Committee. Let's have that discussion. Let's hear different ideas.
Let's solve problems. Let us not make a bad situation worse, and let us
not make the American people even feel more contemptuous of this
institution than they currently do.
Thank you.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Illinois.
Mr. DURBIN. I thank my colleague from Vermont.
Mr. President, in my hand is one of the closely kept secrets in
Washington, DC. These eight pages have been so carefully guarded that
for 3 days, we have been on the floor of the U.S. Senate waiting for
this moment. Within the last hour, the Republicans finally released
their plan to change healthcare for every American. We have been
waiting a long time.
They have been meeting behind closed doors, in secret sessions,
writing what I have in my hand. You have to think to yourself, why
would they do it in secret? If this is something that will affect every
American, family, business, and individual and if they are proud of
what they have done, why did they wait so long? Well, when you read it,
you can understand it, because this measure proposed by the Republican
leadership makes things worse for American families when it comes to
health insurance.
It has a great name. I am sure somebody invested time thinking about
this one: The Health Care Freedom Act. It appears that for 16 million
Americans, they will be free of health insurance protection; 16 million
Americans will lose their health insurance protection because of this
Republican plan. Every other American buying health insurance will be
free to pay 20 percent more each year for the premiums on their health
insurance. You don't have to be a math major to figure out compound
interest at 20 percent a year. By the fourth year, you are knocking on
a 100-percent increase in your premiums. Your health insurance premiums
will double in about 4 years under the Republican plan.
Is that why they started this debate, so they could take health
insurance away from millions of Americans and raise the cost of health
insurance for others? Four Senators had a press conference this evening
at 5 p.m. I watched it carefully. I listened as my colleagues came to
the floor and those four Senators described this plan. They had seen
it, this so-called skinny repeal plan. One of the Senators said that
this plan was a ``fraud,'' it was a ``disaster,'' it would have a
disastrous impact on the premiums charged to people he represented in
his State, and it didn't achieve the goal of reforming and repairing
the Affordable Care Act. I will quickly add--because you will think,
well, we expect the Democrats to say that--this was a press conference
of four Republican Senators about 6 hours ago. They had read the
Republican plan and called it a ``fraud,'' a ``disaster,'' raising
premiums, and not really bringing reform to healthcare in America.
It will take only one of those four Senators to stand up and speak up
and vote no for the right thing to happen--for this proposal to go to
committee where it should have started and to be considered by the
experts first, so we know its real impact, and then to have an
amendment process where better ideas might be offered and debated and
added to this proposal--benefits voted out of committee. Then bring it
to the floor of the U.S. Senate for the same thing to happen.
Do you know who came up with the radical idea that we should go
through the committee process and both parties participate in writing
this reform? None other than Senator John McCain. He came to this floor
a couple of days ago. It was a historic moment. Everyone--both
political parties--was cheering this man whom we have served with and
love and respect. And he warned us. He warned us that if we didn't do
this together--Democrats and Republicans--the results would be
terrible.
Can you afford terrible results when it comes to healthcare for your
family, for you, for your baby? Of course, you can't. We have to do our
level best not to win the political debate but to win the confidence of
the American people that we understand how to make healthcare better
and more responsive in America.
I have been through a lot of measures, and I have voted on a lot of
things over the years. My proudest vote was for the Affordable Care
Act, because I knew we would extend the reach, protection, and peace of
mind of health insurance to millions of Americans.
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I had an experience early in my life. I was newly married and had a
brand new baby girl with a serious health issue, and I had no health
insurance--none. I went to the local hospital here, waiting in the
charity ward, in the hopes that the doctor who walked through that door
would be the one who would save my baby's life. I thought to myself: I
will never let that happen again. I will have health insurance, no
matter what it takes, the rest of my life. I know the feeling, and some
others do too.
I don't want American families and individuals to go through this. I
want them to have the peace of mind and protection of good health
insurance. That is why this Republican proposal taking health insurance
away from 16 million Americans is such a travesty. That is why the
notion of raising health insurance costs beyond the reach of working
families is so wrong and so disgraceful, and that is why, with the help
of one more Republican Senator, we can send this measure back to a
committee where it can be seriously considered, worked on, improved,
and passed so that we can say to the American people: We did our job as
Senators. We did what John McCain challenged us to do--to come together
on a bipartisan basis and to make this a better bill.
I am glad my colleagues are here this evening. I am glad to see my
friend from the State of Wyoming who is here. We have worked on many
issues together. We disagree on this one, but I hope that he will
realize and the others will, too, that this secret that they have kept
from the American people is plain wrong. It is a secret that now it has
been outed. It has to be put to rest. Let's do this the right way.
Let's do it for the well-being and health of America families across
this Nation.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from New Jersey.
Mr. BOOKER. Mr. President, I stand today sort of feeling like a great
New Jerseyan named Yogi Berra, who has a saying that ``this is deja vu
all over again.'' The reason why it feels like deja vu all over again
to me is because I have been watching this process move along. When the
House first tried to push through a healthcare bill, I was so proud
that the American public--Republicans and Democrats--were outraged and
stopped that version 1 in the House. But then version 2 was rushed
through without a CBO score, and they got it done. We heard Republicans
in the House literally saying on the record: I so hope that they will
fix this in the Senate; maybe something will happen in the Senate that
this will get fixed.
Well, now I have deja vu all over again, and it is because we see a
whole bunch of folks--and now we have heard Republican Senators say
this on the record: Gosh, we know what we are doing is flawed; we know
what we are doing is wrong; we know the process has been outrageous,
but our hope is, if we can get it into the conference committee, then
they will fix it in the conference committee.
Well, I am proud to be a U.S. Senator. But, dear God, this is not
what this body is about--to push their responsibilities off, to
derelict their duties, and to not make legislation happen here that
puts people first. We all know this process is broken. We all know that
what we are doing here is not just imperfect. Many of us see this, like
the CBO, as a serious threat to millions of Americans.
We are about to do something that is unconscionable to me to be in
the Senate, where I have seen this place work, I have seen regular
order, I have seen hearings, I have seen witnesses brought in, and I
have seen people work hard on crafting actual legislation. So now this
is just going to be shoved over with the hope in this body that, even
though the House didn't do their job and the President of the United
States even criticized what the House did and called it ``mean,'' it
gets kicked over to the Senate, and the Senate is refusing to do their
job. They are just passing the buck to something called a conference
committee, where they are going to hope again.
So I stand here, and I just have to confess that this has been 2 days
for me where I haven't just been frustrated and angry like so many
Americans. I have actually been struggling with being a little sick. I
started feeling it about 2 days ago. By yesterday my throat was so
sore, I went to bed. I had a horrible night, got up, and could barely
even swallow. I had the worry in my head that maybe I had strep throat.
But guess what. Unlike the thousands of New Jerseyans who have
reached out to me, for me to worry about an illness, maybe that I have
strep throat--I went to a doctor today. I had myself tested for strep.
You see, we, in this body, enjoy health coverage, which right now
millions of Americans are worried about losing, and many other ones
worry, as we heard said tonight, about copays and prescription drug
costs. I wonder where the justice is in that.
What are the American values that hold us all together? I know we
pledge allegiance to that flag. We put our hands on our hearts, and we
swear this oath to liberty and justice for all. Where is the justice in
this country, where some people who are favored and privileged enough
and wealthy enough to afford good health coverage can have it, but for
other folks, a night with a bad sore throat or, worse, with a
disability or disease--where is their justice in the wealthiest country
on the planet Earth? We can't even, in this body, come together and do
what the President said in his campaign that he would do--everyone
would be covered and have healthcare that--I think the quote was this--
was terrific.
Well, it brings me back to what our values are as a country, and I
wonder: For we who believe in life and liberty and the pursuit of
happiness, how can we have life when we see millions of people about to
be thrown off their health coverage? We in this Nation hold these
values so dear. We believe that all are created equal and, in my
belief, should have equal rights and equal opportunities for the basics
that are necessary to succeed and to compete, and that is health
insurance.
I wonder how we have gotten to a point as a body on an issue like
this that is not just one-sixth of our economy, that will not just
affect millions and millions of lives, but that really goes to the core
of who we are as a country.
This great man, Patrick Henry, said: ``Give me liberty or give me
death.'' Those words have been coming back to me a lot in the last
months of this debate and this discussion: ``Give me liberty or give me
death.''
Well, what is the quality of the liberty in this country, where there
are people who are shackled with preventible disease and conditions
that could be treated because they don't have access to healthcare?
What is the quality of liberty in this country, where people are
chained to poverty, have to sell their cars, have to sell their homes,
and go into bankruptcy because they can't afford their healthcare
coverage?
``Give me liberty or give me death.'' What is the quality of the
liberty when people are imprisoned by fear and worry and stress because
they have a sick child or they have a parent who is elderly and needs
care? These are the values of this country, and I don't understand how
we could be at this moment right now with the ideas that I have heard
on both sides of the aisle to make healthcare better, to improve upon
the Affordable Care Act, to extend health coverage to even more people,
to make this Nation live up to its most powerful and profound values
that made us a light unto nations, and how we could have gotten to this
point now after gaining ground, after having more people experience the
freedom and the liberty that comes from not having to worry about your
health coverage, from having access to quality healthcare? How can we
have moved forward and now be about, in a matter of hours, to push this
Nation back? I don't understand how we could be here where no one can
justify the process and no one can justify this body having gone
through such a contorted process that bends our traditions and breaks
our values. I do not understand how we could have gotten here.
Who will be hurt? Who will be hurt? I have read lots of studies
recently about how, when health insurance rates goes down, mortality
rates go up, and when health insurance rates go down, mortality rates
go up. It makes me wonder about the duty that we each have to each
other as Americans. As a man of faith, it makes me wonder about all of
us who profess our faith and how we could be allowing a process
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to go forward where the most vulnerable among us will face fear and
deprivation and will see things that will cost life and have them
surrender liberty. We are better than this. This Nation is greater than
this.
This moment casts a shame and a shadow over the soul and the heart of
America, and I will fight even in these last hours with every breath
that I have, like the patriots before us, not to allow this to happen
to my fellow Americans. This is unjust, this is wrong, and we can and
must in these hours do better.
Let's send this bill into committees. Let's do this process as this
institution was designed to have it done. Let's open the doors of the
Capitol and invite America to come--the American Medical Association,
the American Cancer Society, hospital associations. Let's invite the
AARP. Let's have America come down here. Let's join together like our
forefathers and foremothers have done to expand liberty, to expand
opportunity, to extend hope. We can do that. All of us collectively
have that power, and it is what the people want right now. This is not
what the people want.
What we are about to vote on has only seen the light of day for a
matter of minutes now--a matter of minutes.
This Nation was founded with a proclamation that we the people--this
idea that all of us together--can do better, that when we join
together, when we stand together, when we fight together, and when we
work together, we can create a transcendent reality. That is the story
of America, and this is not. This is the betrayal of our values. This
is the betrayal of our history. This is the betrayal of the great body
in which we all are Members.
Thank you, Mr. President.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Hawaii.
Ms. HIRONO. Mr. President, so many of us have spoken so many times
now against the repeal of the Affordable Care Act, which would hurt
millions and millions of people in our country and especially the
sickest, poorest, and oldest among us.
I would say that I am probably the only Senator here who was not born
in a hospital. I was born at home in rural Japan. I lost a sister to
pneumonia when she was only 2 years old in Japan. She died at home, not
in a hospital, where maybe her life could have been saved.
It is hard for me to talk about this. I think you can tell. Give me a
moment.
When I came to this country as an immigrant, my mother brought me and
my brothers to this country so we could have a chance at a better life.
We came here with nothing. She had low-paying jobs. There was no health
coverage. Growing up as a young girl in Hawaii, my greatest fear was
that my mother would get sick and, if she got sick, how were we going
to pay for her care, and how would she go to work? If she didn't go to
work, there would be no pay, there would be no money. I know what it is
like to run out of money at the end of the month. That was my life as
an immigrant here.
Now, here I am, a U.S. Senator. I am fighting kidney cancer, and I am
just so grateful that I had health insurance so that I could
concentrate on the care that I needed rather than how the heck I was
going to afford the care that is going to probably save my life.
Guess what. When I was diagnosed with kidney cancer and facing my
first surgery, I heard from so many of my colleagues, including so many
of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle, who wrote to me
wonderful notes sharing with me their own experience with major illness
in their families or with their loved ones.
You showed me your care. You showed me your compassion. Where is that
tonight?
I can't believe that a single Senator in this body has not faced an
illness or whose family member or loved one has not faced illness who
was not so grateful that they had healthcare. I cannot believe there is
a single Senator who has not experienced that in their family or their
lives.
I know how important healthcare is. What is in here? Why doesn't
every single Senator know that? Why are we here tonight voting on a
bill that has not had a single hearing? Why are we here tonight voting
on a bill that would eliminate healthcare coverage that could save
lives for 16 million people? Why are we here voting on a bill that
would probably mean that people like me, millions in this country, who
are now in the ranks of those receiving care with preexisting
conditions will not get the healthcare we need? Why are we here
tonight? Where is your compassion? Where is the care you showed me when
I was diagnosed with my illness?
I find it hard to believe that we can sit here and vote on a bill
that is going to hurt millions and millions of people in our country.
We are better than that.
I listened to John McCain calling on us to have hearings and to do
the right thing, and I am so saddened he was unable to move us in that
direction. I would call on him tonight to vote his conscience, to vote
for us who say we are going to stand for the millions of people in our
country who will be hurt by what we are contemplating tonight.
Mr. President, I will yield the floor by asking my friends to show
the compassion to everybody in this country that you showed me. We all
should be voting to send this bill to committee.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Sasse). The Senator from Virginia.
Mr. KAINE. Mr. President, I also rise with my colleagues,
tremendously moved by the powerful words of my friend from Hawaii: Why
can't you show compassion to others that you showed to me? That is a
haunting question, and I hope people will hear that not just with their
ears but with their hearts.
I also support the motion to do what we should have done in January--
to commit this important topic to the committee that has jurisdiction
over it.
A few years ago, there was a popular thing to do, and that was to
wear a button or bracelet with the letters WWJD. That button and
bracelet stood for ``What would Jesus do.'' I was on the floor the
other night, and I don't think that is a very hard question because in
Matthew 25, he basically tells us: I was sick and you cared for me. In
different translations: I was sick and you looked after me. I was sick
and you visited me. I was sick and you took care of me. I think the
answer to WWJD is pretty straightforward tonight.
I am going to talk about a different John McCain. John McCain, based
on the tremendously moving presentation he made on the floor the other
day, one that led us to a standing ovation because he talked about how
this body should work, he said that things weren't working here as they
should for the American public. He said we needed to fix the Senate and
be an example for the public. We needed to restore confidence, and the
way to do that would be to return to operate as the Senate should
operate, with putting bills in committees and having hearings and
listening to the public and, most importantly, listening to each other.
That is the process John McCain's committee just used, the Armed
Services Committee, to get a unanimous defense authorizing bill to the
floor, which I hope we will take up in the next few days.
I just want to spend a few minutes talking about if that is what we
should do. If those words led us to leap to our feet in a standing
ovation, why are we standing here 2 days later preparing to break every
suggestion and recommendation he made to us?
When should we start the process of listening to each other and
listening to the American public? Should we start on an inconsequential
issue that doesn't matter? I think now is the time to start. I think we
all know it is the time to start. If we didn't believe in our heart
that now was the time to start fixing this place, we wouldn't have
leapt to our feet and given Senator McCain a standing ovation. This is
the time, and this is the issue to start fixing this place and doing
what we do with the spirit that is worthy of the American people who
sent us here.
Why is now the right time? First, because this issue is so important
to people. You heard moving--moving--words from our friend from Hawaii
and our friend from New Jersey. We have all spent months going from
town to town in our States having people come plead with us for
solutions. I shared stories about being in the medical clinic in
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Appalachia a week ago tomorrow and seeing the tremendous need in this
richest and most compassionate Nation on Earth.
There is nothing about a person's life that is more important than
their health. There is no expenditure that a human being ever makes
that is as important as an expenditure they make for their health. This
is the right issue to start fixing this place because it is important
to people.
It is important to the economy. This is the largest sector of the
American economy. We are proposing to reorient one-sixth of the
American economy on a snap vote, in the middle of the night, without
having a single hearing or listening to a single expert.
It is an important issue because we definitely need to hear from the
public. You know, committee hearings sound kind of wonky. We haven't
had a committee hearing. What does that mean? What it means is, we
haven't had a witness table where a patient or a doctor or the American
Cancer Society or others could stand up and share their points of view.
We need to listen, and if we don't listen, we will not get this right.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator's time has expired.
Mr. KAINE. I ask unanimous consent for 2 minutes to close, Mr.
President.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. KAINE. The time is right because the consequences are so severe:
16 million people lose insurance, 20 percent premiums compounding over
the years, insurance markets skyrocketing and unstable, and Planned
Parenthood defunded--the healthcare provider of choice for 3 million
women.
The final reason we should do this the right way, not the wrong way,
is what was said by Senator Graham just a few hours ago. He described
the bill that is now on the floor, the skinny repeal, the skinny bill,
as a policy is a disaster as a replacement for ObamaCare. It is a
fraud.
Is ``fraudulent disaster'' the best that the United States Senate can
do now? Is that now the bar we have to get over? If we can say
something is a fraudulent disaster, it is suddenly good enough to vote
for? That is salt in the wound of a family that is worried about their
sick child. That is salt in the wound of anybody who is worried about
what would happen to their family tomorrow. Will they lose insurance?
Will they pay more? Will they be blocked from going to Planned
Parenthood? If this body passes a bill that even Members who vote for
it claim is a fraudulent disaster, how do you think the American public
will view this body? How will they view the degree of care and concern
we exhibit to them?
This is not the best the Senate can do. We can do much better than
this, we must do much better than this, and I ask my colleagues to send
this to committee where we can listen to one another and get this
right.
Thank you, Mr. President.
I yield the floor.
Ms. COLLINS. Mr. President, few issues are as important or personal
to the American people as healthcare, which is why this debate has been
so fervent and ignites such passion.
On the one hand, the Affordable Care Act, ACA, has allowed millions
of individuals and families to obtain health insurance for the first
time. It has also brought important patient protections like those for
people with preexisting conditions and prohibitions on annual and
lifetime limits on insurance payments for needed care.
On the other hand, too many Americans face skyrocketing premiums and
unaffordable deductibles coupled with mandates that give them few, if
any, choices. Some insurance plans have become so restrictive that
families find they can no longer go to the doctor or hospital of their
choice. In addition, the ACA's employer mandate discourages businesses
from creating jobs or giving their workers more hours, while its tax
credits and subsidies are designed so poorly as to cause ``wage
lock''--``where working harder to get ahead can instead make some
Americans fall further behind.''
Despite President Obama's campaign promise that his health plan
``would save the average family $2,500 on their premiums'' per year,
the opposite has happened as premiums are increasing in nearly every
State, with an average increase of 25 percent nationally last year.
Today, despite the implementation of the ACA, 28 million Americans
remain uninsured.
These problems require a bipartisan solution. The Democrats made a
big mistake when they passed the ACA without a single Republican vote.
I don't want to see Republicans make the same mistake.
Earlier this week, I voted against proceeding to healthcare reform
legislation--the American Health Care Act of 2017--that passed the
House of Representatives last May without a single Democratic vote. For
many Americans, this bill could actually make the situation worse.
Among other things, the bill would make sweeping changes to the
Medicaid Program--an important safety net that for more than 50 years
has helped poor and disabled individuals, including children and low-
income seniors, receive health care. The nonpartisan Congressional
Budget Office, CBO, projects that the number of uninsured Americans
would climb by 23 million under this bill.
Senate leaders, recognizing that the House bill did not have
sufficient support, advanced their own substitute proposal that would
make similar structural changes to the Medicaid program, as well as
many other changes. CBO estimates that this plan would reduce the
number of people with insurance by 22 million, cause premiums and other
out-of-pocket costs to soar for Americans nearing retirement, and shift
billions of dollars of costs to State governments. It also would
undermine the financial stability of rural hospitals and long-term care
facilities and likely lead to the loss of important consumer
protections for many Americans, while doing virtually nothing to
address the underlying problem of escalating healthcare costs. Earlier
this week, this body struck down that proposal by a vote of 43 to 57.
A separate proposal that would simply repeal the ACA without a
replacement also failed, by a vote of 45 to 55. That legislation,
according to CBO, would result in 32 million people losing their
insurance, bringing the total number of uninsured Americans to 60
million a decade from now. Clearly, that is going in the wrong
direction.
In a final effort to reach consensus, Republican leaders have pieced
together a plan that would repeal key portions of the ACA while punting
on many of the more difficult questions. While I support many of the
components of this plan, this approach will not provide the market
stability and premium relief that is needed. In fact, a bipartisan
group of Governors wrote Senate leaders this week, urging rejection of
this so-called skinny plan, which they say ``is expected to accelerate
health plans leaving the individual market, increase premiums, and
result in fewer Americans having access to coverage.''
I ask unanimous consent that the letter be printed in the Record
following my remarks.
Also included in all of these plans is a misguided proposal that
would block Federal funds, including Medicaid reimbursements, from
going to Planned Parenthood. Millions of women across the country rely
on Planned Parenthood for family planning, cancer screening, and basic
preventive healthcare services. Denying women access to Planned
Parenthood not only runs contrary to our goal of letting patients
choose the healthcare provider who best fits their needs, but it also
could impede timely access to care.
If Planned Parenthood were defunded, other family planning clinics in
Maine, including community health centers, would see a 63 percent
increase in their patient load. Some patients would need to drive
greater distances to receive care, while others would have to wait
longer for an appointment,
Let me be clear that this is not about abortion. Federal law already
prohibits the use of Federal funds to pay for abortion except in cases
of rape, incest, or when the life of the mother is at risk.
This is about interfering with the ability of a woman to choose the
healthcare provider who is right for her. This harmful provision should
have no place in legislation that purports to be about restoring
patient choices and freedom.
We need to reconsider our approach. The ACA is flawed and in portions
of the country is near collapse. Rather
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than engaging in partisan exercises, Republicans and Democrats should
work together to address these very serious problems. In their letter
to Senate leaders, the bipartisan group of Governors correctly notes
that, ``True, lasting reforms can only be achieved in an open,
bipartisan fashion.''
Healthcare is extraordinarily complex, and we must work together
systematically in order to ``do no harm'' and improve our healthcare
system. In developing legislation, our focus should be on the impact on
people, premiums, and providers.
We are dealing with an issue that affects millions of Americans and
one sixth of our economy, and we need to approach reforms in a very
careful way. That means going through the regular process of committee
hearings; receiving input from expert witnesses such as actuaries,
Governors, advocacy groups, and healthcare providers; and vetting
proposals with our colleagues on both sides of the aisle. It needs to
be a much more deliberative process, and I am pleased that Chairman
Alexander has expressed a willingness to begin hearings in the Senate
Health Committee.
Neither party has a monopoly on good ideas, and we must work together
to put together a bipartisan bill that fixes the flaws in the ACA and
works for all Americans.
There being no objection, the material was ordered to be printed in
the Record, as follows:
July 26, 2017.
Hon. Mitch McConnell,
Majority Leader, U.S. Senate,
Washington, DC.
Hon. Charles E. Schumer,
Minority Leader, U.S. Senate,
Washington, DC.
Dear Majority Leader McConnell and Minority Leader Schumer:
As the Senate debates the House-passed American Health Care
Act (H.R. 1628), we urge you to set aside this flawed bill
and work with governors, both Democrats and Republicans, on
solutions that will make health care more available and
affordable for every American. True, lasting reforms can only
be achieved in an open, bipartisan fashion.
We agree with Senator John McCain that the Senate should
``return to regular order,'' working across the aisle to
``provide workable solutions to problems Americans are
struggling with today.''
Congress should be working to make health insurance more
affordable while stabilizing the health insurance market, but
this bill and similar proposals won't accomplish these goals.
The bill still threatens coverage for millions of
hardworking, middle class Americans. The bill's Medicaid
provisions shift costs to states and fail to provide the
necessary resources to ensure that no one is left out,
including the working poor or those suffering from mental
illness or addiction. The Senate should also reject efforts
to amend the bill into a ``skinny repeal,'' which is expected
to accelerate health plans leaving the individual market,
increase premiums, and result in fewer Americans having
access to coverage.
Instead, we ask senators to work with governors on
solutions to problems we can all agree on: fixing our
unstable insurance markets. Improvements should be based on a
set of guiding principles, which include controlling costs
and stabilizing the market, that will positively impact the
coverage and care of millions of Americans, including many
who are dealing with mental illness, chronic health problems,
and drug addiction.
The next best step is for senators and governors of both
parties to come together to work to improve our health care
system. We stand ready to work with lawmakers in an open,
bipartisan way to provide better insurance for all Americans.
Sincerely,
John W. Hickenlooper, Governor of Colorado;
Steve Bullock, Governor of Montana;
Brian Sandoval, Governor of Nevada;
Larry Hogan, Governor of Maryland;
Tom Wolf, Governor of Pennsylvania;
John Bel Edwards, Governor of Louisiana;
Terence R. McAuliffe, Governor of Virginia;
Charles D. Baker, Governor of Massachusetts;
John R. Kasich, Governor of Ohio;
Phil Scott, Governor of Vermont.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Wyoming.
Mr. ENZI. Mr. President, for 2\1/2\ days I have been listening to the
same rhetoric. It sounds like deja vu. For 2\1/2\ days I have been
listening to this. I have been giving extra time to the other side to
speak. I have been hoping out of that I would get one constructive
suggestion for what could be done with healthcare.
It has all been criticism. It has been criticism against all cuts.
Even tonight, after the bill was read here on the floor, I heard that
we were changing Social Security. We are not changing Social Security.
We can't change Social Security under the budget.
I heard we were changing Medicare. We are not changing Medicare. I am
not going to allow other time for that side. I will suggest that side
of the aisle go and read the bill. I think it would be a worthwhile
exercise.
There isn't even Medicaid in there. You have threatened about what
was going to be done about Medicaid. You talked about what was going to
be done with Medicaid, but it is not based on fact. So take a look at
the bill.
Another way that this is deja vu is I remember being here on
Christmas Eve when technical corrections were accepted from the other
side, but you went ahead and passed the bill. We mentioned things that
needed to be changed in the meantime, and we were told: No, no, that
doesn't have to be done. It just needs more time.
Well, we had more time, and there does need to be corrections. You
keep talking about how the Republicans have ruined the insurance
market. No, last October, the high rates came out for States across
this country that pointed out that healthcare was going down the tubes.
So something needed to be done. Something needed to be done, but
without getting constructive suggestions from the other side--just
criticism, saying ObamaCare is perfect, until this debate started, and
then I started hearing: It is not perfect. It is not perfect.
Well, where are the suggestions for making it as near perfect as
possible? We put up a lot of----
Ms. HEITKAMP addressed the Chair.
Mr. ENZI. I am not asking that as a rhetorical question. Think about
it for a little while, come up with constructive suggestions.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Wyoming has the floor.
Ms. HEITKAMP. Would the Senator yield for a question?
Mr. ENZI. No, I will not yield for a question.
When I feel like there is something constructive that is going to be
done around here--I remember that one of the Senators on the other side
of the aisle said: If you just take Medicaid out, I will be for it.
Well, Medicaid is not in this version so that ought to be some kind of
a commitment on it.
I keep referring to this book, which goes back to a lot of the
history that we have experienced around here. Here is what has
happened, and all of this is footnoted. I was reading at first the
footnotes. I didn't check out all the footnotes, but I did look to see
if they were footnoted.
Under the bill that we are trying to make some changes to, there have
been costs from new taxes. There are 21 taxes that have been included
in ObamaCare, but the most enormous one is the increased taxes on
healthcare companies that are then passed on to the public as higher
costs for insurance and pharmaceuticals.
I have heard that word ``pharmaceuticals'' thrown out a lot, and I
agree there are things that need to be changed there. I do remember the
pharmaceuticals joining in on the process of getting ObamaCare passed
because they did this little thing with the pharmaceutical Part D,
where there was this doughnut hole, and through the doughnut hole we
were hoping that people would switch to generic, but the pharmaceutical
companies said: No, no, no. If you will stick with the brand name, we
will cover you through the doughnut hole. Do you know why? Because
people, as they go through the doughnut hole, go beyond the doughnut
hole, and beyond the doughnut hole the Federal Government picks up the
cost of the name brands--the name brand pharmaceuticals. My insurance
commissioner was by to visit with me, and he mentioned that I have
twins in Wyoming, and they have a rare disease. There is a prescription
for it, and the prescription is costing $30,000 a year each. Well, that
is quite a bit of money, and the insurance company is picking that up.
Then the name brand pharmaceutical company bought out the generic one.
This was generics they were getting.
So now they have to have name brand because the generic isn't on the
market now. The cost? It is $1.6 million for each kid, each year.
That is why the companies, why the insurance companies are dropping
out
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of the market. I mean, Wyoming is the least populated State in the
Nation, and an insurance company that is limited to Wyoming is going to
have to bear that $3.2 million worth of cost. So they are going to be
saying: We are the only ones covering Wyoming; maybe we shouldn't
provide insurance in Wyoming either. We lost the other two companies
already, and we are down to just one, but we have one, and they cover
all of the counties, unlike--it kind of surprised me that the rules
allow companies to just do some counties in some States.
Also, under ObamaCare, the insurance plans have to cover more.
This includes plans for the patient who may not want a
particular coverage but has to have this. [It comes under
the] essential health benefits, which are required through
HHS. This led to 5 million Americans losing their insurance
in the individual market.
Reduction of lower cost plans. High deductible [health
savings accounts] are very important in reducing costs for
individuals, families, and businesses. A RAND study in 2011
found that an HSA/high deductible plan (with a deductible of
at least $1,000) would reduce healthcare spending an average
of 14%. That savings incurred not only for patients but also
for employers and for total healthcare expenditures. These
more effective plans have been reduced under ObamaCare.
Most of the young people on my staff were getting HSAs, and the
reason they did is because they did a little bit of a calculation. They
did a little bit of financial literacy. They looked to see what the
plan was for the full coverage, and then they looked to see what an HSA
would cost, and they said: Well, gee, if I take the difference in the
cost between the regular insurance and the HSAs and I put that in one
of these savings accounts that can grow tax-free, in a maximum of 3
years, I will cover any deductible that I might have.
So they considered that to be good insurance and they got to make a
lot of their decisions.
But I don't think we want individuals making their decisions; that
appears to be how ObamaCare is constructed.
Then there is an increase in mandates, which is item No. 4.
Mandates existed before ObamaCare but have dramatically
increased with ObamaCare. It added mandates ``guaranteed
issue and community ratings.'' Both have been previously
tried in the states. Such mandates distort the marketplace
and drive up the cost of care. Policies within states that
had more mandates could actually have doubled the cost of
[their] premiums.
5. Increased costs by constricting hospitals and physician
systems. There has been consolidation with increased hospital
mergers by 50% compared with 2009. There has also been
movement of doctor's practices to connect with hospital
systems and both the contractures within the hospital system
and then physician's systems increased costs to the patients.
For example, group practice charges increased costs 18% to
20% and specialty care charges increased costs even more, 34%
after connecting the care with hospital systems. These
changes in care i.e. changing from private practice systems
into hospital-based systems have significantly driven up the
cost of care for the patients.
6. Medical legal liability reform has not been a part of
ObamaCare but is a significant driver of healthcare costs.
That is not considered in it, and it is considered to be about a 10
to 25 percent increase in total costs.
Mrs. MURRAY. Mr. President, may I respectfully ask the chairman a
question?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Does the Senator yield for a question?
Mr. ENZI. I think this is under my time.
Mrs. MURRAY. It is, and I just----
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Does the Senator yield for a question?
Mrs. MURRAY. Regarding time, I just have a question so that Members
can know how to manage their time between now and the 45 minutes when
we have the vote.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Republicans have 46 minutes remaining; the
Democrats have zero.
Mrs. MURRAY. If I could just respectfully ask the chairman, since we
have only had this bill for an hour, we have, as you can see, a number
of Senators who want to speak. I would just respectfully ask if there
is any time we will have between now and the vote to make any comments,
since we have just had, for a very short amount of time, the bill that
we will be voting on, which will obviously impact millions of
Americans.
Mr. ENZI. I think the answer that I gave was perhaps your time might
be better spent taking a look at the bill because the conversations I
have heard here didn't necessarily speak to the bill.
Mrs. MURRAY. Mr. Chairman, I----
Mr. ENZI. They speak to the process, and I think we have already
covered that in 3 days.
Mrs. McCASKILL addressed the Chair.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Wyoming has the floor.
Mrs. McCASKILL. Mr. President, will he yield for a question about the
bill? He clearly knows more about it than we do because he has seen it
for much longer than we have.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Wyoming has the floor.
Mrs. McCASKILL. He will not yield for a question?
Mr. ENZI. I want to continue on with why we are trying to change
this.
The Galen Institute--Grace-Marie Turner wrote about 70 changes to
ObamaCare that occurred after it went into effect. And those changes
include the ``employer mandate delay, individual mandate delay,
preserved benefits to the military and VA, and reduction of funding to
agencies used for implementation of ObamaCare including IPAB, CO-OP's,
and IRS.''
Co-ops are an interesting thing. I was suggesting during the time
that ObamaCare was being considered that small business health plans
might make a real difference in costs for small businesses. Now, the
only thing I can see on small businesses in here is that if you are a
small business and you have over 50 employees, you have a problem.
I have people in Wyoming who come to me and say: I have this
business. It is working really well, and in the next town over--and
most of the towns aren't big enough to hold two of the same kind of
store--so in the next town over, I would like to put in the same kind
of shop.
My question to them is: How many employees do you have?
Most of them have said: Well, I have about 48 employees.
I said: How many will you need in the other store?
They said: Well, I hope to need the same amount of people.
I said: Well, the way this works, you are going to come under much
increased healthcare costs, and you better take a look at that before
you make your expansion.
So it has cost jobs that way.
Now, with small business insurance, with the small business health
plan--
Ms. WARREN addressed the Chair.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senate will be in order.
The Senator from Wyoming has the floor.
Mr. ROUNDS. Regular order.
Ms. WARREN. Will the Senator from Wyoming yield for a question about
the new study on the impact of ObamaCare on jobs?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Wyoming has the floor.
Ms. WARREN. Will he yield?
Mr. ENZI. I will not yield. I would appreciate the same courtesy from
that side that I gave to you when you were doing your expositions about
healthcare, which included the things that I have mentioned that aren't
even in the bill. Our side has some time, and I would like to use some
of that time.
As I have been through this process for a long time now--I have been
on the Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee for the whole
time that I have been here, which is 20 years. Of course, it wasn't
Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions when I first got here, but we
thought that that was a clever acronym: We are from the Federal
Government, and we are here to help you. There are a lot of people back
home who don't think we really help out much.
But, at any rate, the small business health plans, after three of us
who were in the Gang of 6 got thrown under the train or under the bus
or whatever it was, small business health plans were changed to co-ops,
and they were given a significant amount of money to work with, and
they haven't fared very well.
I will find the information about the co-ops here. Again, this isn't
stuff that I wrote; this is stuff somebody else wrote and footnoted and
sent to all of us. Again, the name of the book is ``Demystifying
ObamaCare: How to Achieve Healthcare Reform.'' It gives some good
suggestions.
He does point out that ``ObamaCare is not a system of healthcare, nor
is it
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healthcare reform. It is a system of healthcare control.''
People are told what they are going to do.
ObamaCare was supposed to significantly reduce healthcare
costs, but instead it has dramatically increased costs for
even those who are not directly within the ObamaCare program.
ObamaCare was supposed to increase access to care, but
instead it actually reduced access to the availability to
care. ObamaCare reduces the effectiveness of the safety net
program, which is so very important economically for
Americans.
Under an amendment that I would like to see is one that would have
covered the people who make a living of under $11,000--because with
$11,000, you can't get insurance. They don't get subsidies; they are
just left out in the cold. It is one of the corrections that should
have been made and wasn't made. ObamaCare does reduce the effectiveness
of the safety net program, which is important to economically poor
Americans.
There are a lot of people out there in the States, several thousand
in my State, who can't get insurance under that.
The quality of healthcare in America was derided when
ObamaCare was passed, but ObamaCare instead reduces the
quality of U.S. healthcare by reducing innovation, and it
removes a person's ability to make his own decisions about
his healthcare and that of his family, and it does so by
removing the freedom to make those decisions by putting so
many qualifications on it.
Again, I repeat that we haven't done anything to take people off of
their policy if they are under their parents' policy if they are under
the age of 26.
We haven't done anything to deny patients who have preexisting
conditions. I have heard that for 3 days.
We haven't eliminated the lifetime caps on insurance. I have heard
that for weeks.
So there are things that need to be done. They could be done. We have
tried to do it in this bill, again, without constructive suggestions
from the other side. For any recognition that there was any problem
that ought to be solved, we have gone ahead. It is not my choice for
the mechanism that would be used; it is the mechanism that was chosen
by leadership and it falls to them. One of the things that makes this
difficult is it is a budget reconciliation, so there are things that
have to be written in a budget form in order to comply. That limits
some of the things that I would have liked to have done that I think
would have made quite a difference. And I think there would have been
some things the other side might have joined on and been excited about
too. But, again, we are limited by the mechanism that we have here, and
there is no indication that----
Mr. MURPHY. Mr. President, will the Senator yield for a question?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senate will be in order.
The Senator from Wyoming has the floor.
Mr. ENZI. Mr. President, I have heard so many times that the other
side would love to be cooperative, but I have yet to see cooperation. I
am not going to take questions; I am going to--I really would
appreciate it if you would just take some time to look at the bill. I
have heard the rhetoric.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senate will be in order.
Mr. MURPHY. Maybe this time would be better used if you allowed us to
ask you some questions about the bill.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senate will be in order.
The Senator from Wyoming has the floor.
Mr. ENZI. Yes, and I have an hour, whether I use it or not. As I
said, for the past few days I have been yielding time to the other
side. I haven't gotten much satisfaction out of that. I have listened
for the last hour, and I didn't get any satisfaction out of that
either. I did sit through all of it. I did listen to it. Again, it is
complaints about the process, but not constructive suggestions on what
could be done.
There are taxes, mandates, regulations, lack of competition in the
marketplace, increasing costs. When I travel across Wyoming, I have
people who have come up to me and they say: My insurance premium is
bigger than my house payment, and it is growing.
And they said: If something happens to us, my deductible is bigger
than my year's premium. That shouldn't happen in America, but that is
where we are. Those aren't isolated cases; those are a lot of cases.
That is the situation we find ourselves in. We are not trying to hurt
anybody; we are trying to fix some of these things.
As I said, for 8 years, every time there has been a waiver--that is
part of that thing that I mentioned about the 70 changes to ObamaCare
so far--a lot of those were in the way of waivers.
Every time there was a waiver, I said: Why are we waiving this? Why
don't we just fix it?
I was told: It is not broke; it just needs more time.
Well, it has had more time. Last year--this was before the election,
so you can't blame us. We had no idea who was going to be the
President. We had no idea who was going to be in the majority. Last
October, people started pulling out of insurance markets, and rates
increased dramatically. You can't put that blame on us.
Mrs. MURRAY. Mr. President, parliamentary inquiry.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Does the Senator yield for a parliamentary
inquiry?
Mr. ENZI. No.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Wyoming has the floor.
Mr. MURRAY. Mr. President, I just wanted to ask how much time is left
on a bill that we haven't had much time to look at much in the last
hour that we are going to vote on.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Wyoming has 34 minutes
remaining, and the Senator has the floor.
Mr. ENZI. Mr. President, I think what we have is a motion to commit
and the right for the other side to do other amendments. I would hope
that some of them would be constructive, but I am not expecting that.
As I said, I have been listening for 3 days and actually listening a
lot longer before that time.
I could talk about some of the things we can learn from ObamaCare,
because we should. We can learn that decisions have to be made by the
patients and not by the bureaucrats for the government. There are some
key examples of when the government starts making those decisions. I
don't have to pick on ObamaCare for it necessarily; the VA has had a
few problems, and I am sure all of you have been working casework on
what the VA has been doing. That is where the government and the
bureaucrats are making decisions. We have been through some enormous
times on that. That is why we did the Choice Act. And the Choice Act
had a lot of problems. That is government healthcare.
People say: Well, Choice got to go outside of the government.
That is not quite true. I think the folks with the VA picked the
companies you have to go through for healthcare, and when they did,
they didn't want it to be efficient. They wanted as much of it as
possible to come back to the VA. I am sure all of us, as we travel
across our States, are running into people who are having problems with
providers not getting paid or not being able to get their appointments.
If you check with the providers, you find out what kind of a terrible
process they have to go through to get paid. That is government
healthcare.
In my State, I provide the VA with a list every week of the new cases
I have of people who are not getting care. That shouldn't happen. But
they told me when I first inquired: Well, there are only two doctors
who haven't been paid.
I said: That is impossible. There are more than two doctors in my own
town who haven't been paid, and there are a lot of towns in Wyoming--
when I go to them, I hear that they are not paid.
They said: One was not paid for 30 days, and one wasn't paid for 45
days.
I said: Well, I don't know why either one wasn't paid before those
kinds of deadlines.
But I can tell you there are a lot more problems than that.
So if we are thinking about going to a Federal healthcare--and I
guess we are not because we had that vote a little bit earlier on
whether we would have a single-payer system. I was amazed at the number
of people who chose not to vote on that. At any rate, I don't think
that is where America wants to go. I have had some people ask me about
that. I have given them some suggestions on where to check to see what
kind of care they would get under that, and they have come back
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to me and said: I don't think that is where we want to go.
I know the other side of the aisle has wanted to go that way for a
long time. When I first got here, Phil Gramm was one of my mentors, and
I really appreciated all of his advice in so many areas. One of the
things he said to me was, you have to watch out for healthcare because
where the Democrats want to go is to single-payer healthcare. In other
words, they don't care who drives the train as long as it wrecks.
So I look back on ObamaCare and I say: Man, this was 18, 19, 20 years
ago that he told me this. Is that where ObamaCare is supposed to go, to
wreck the train so we can go to single-payer? I don't think so, but I
think we are on the way to a train wreck, and I am not hearing a lot of
disagreement about the train wreck. I am hearing some disagreement
about the amount of calamity in the train wreck but not on whether
there is going to be a train wreck.
There are a number of things we could do to take care of the costs
that have gone up under this. That can be confronted within a free
market as opposed to the government-run, government-controlled market
we are under now. One of them is to reduce the tax burden. I did notice
that I have a lot of people in Wyoming--again, we are one of the
smallest or least populated in the Nation. We are big in land mass, but
we are small in population--In Wyoming, $5.6 million was collected from
people for fines for not having the adequate healthcare.
Those were people who said: Wait a minute, I have to spend so much on
my healthcare and then a high deductible that I am never going to get
anything out of it. So when I calculate the annual cost, the $1,700
that I have to pay as the fine--or $1,500, somewhere in that range--is
cheaper than paying for all those premiums and then a deductible if
anything ever happens to me.
These are real people I am talking about.
Mr. SCHATZ. Mr. President, would the Senator yield for a question?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Wyoming has the floor.
Mr. ENZI. I allowed the other side to have their hour. I expect to
have this hour, even if some of it is in silence.
I mentioned reducing the tax burden.
We could also eliminate some regulations. We really need to take a
look at some of those regulations within the essential health benefits
and see if everybody needs all of them or if there are some they would
opt out of, given the opportunity, because they know they will never
need them. There are a lot of examples of that.
We could eliminate the mandates from the Federal and State. We have
the elimination of the Federal mandates in this bill, both the
individual mandate and the employer mandate.
We could also increase competition within the marketplace by
increasing flexibility. Some of these things we can't do, particularly
to the level we would like to do them, but we could have more
competition if we could increase the number of insurance companies.
Competition makes a difference.
I have had a number of people, though, who have suggested to me that
the biggest thing we could do would be to pass the medical liability
reform because doctors are practicing defensive medicine, which drives
up the cost, so that if they are ever in a lawsuit, they can prove they
did every possible thing that they could ever imagine or that anybody
could raise as an issue. There is a cost to doing that. One of the
suggestions----
Mr. HEINRICH. Mr. President, I would ask if the Senator would yield.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senate will be in order.
The Senator from Wyoming has the floor.
Mr. HEINRICH. Will the Senator from Wyoming yield for a question?
Mr. ENZI. I will not.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator declines to yield.
Mr. ENZI. It has been suggested that the government could have an
appropriate role in healthcare by maybe using advanceable, refundable
credits to prevent any lapse in coverage. One of the problems we have
right now is that people can wait until they have something terrible
happen to them, and they can sign up for insurance on the way to the
hospital--you can't pay when you are in the ambulance, and you can't
pay when you are getting treatment, and you can't pay when you are
getting rehab--and when they are done, they drop out of it. It is hard
for an insurance company to figure in the cost of something they are
not going to get paid for at all.
There have been a number of suggestions. I don't know whether they
are any good. I could throw them out. One of them is that if you don't
keep continuous coverage, you should have to pick up your own expenses
for the first 6 months. That would encourage people to have continuous
coverage. It is just one possible suggestion.
There is a role for government within this setting, and that is
requiring some transparency within the system, encouraging the
development of new healthcare competition, prevention of collusion
between healthcare companies, and having prices posted.
I remember a hearing we had once--
Ms. WARREN. Mr. President, will the Senator yield for a question?
Mr. ENZI. I will not. You got your hour; it is my hour.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senate will be in order.
The Senator declines to yield.
The Senator from Wyoming has the floor.
Mr. ENZI. When I was chairman or when Senator Kennedy was chairman of
the Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee, we switched from
doing hearings to doing roundtables. That was an interesting experience
too. Instead of having all of the witnesses except one picked by the
majority and the other one picked by the minority and then everybody
coming up to beat up on the person who was in the opposite field, we
went to roundtables.
What you do with a roundtable is you pick 2 or 6 or 8 or 10 people
who are actually knowledgeable in that field, who have actually done
something, who have had their hands on what we were talking about.
I remember the first one. One of the questions at the end was by
Senator Kennedy, and he asked the witnesses that he and I had selected.
This wasn't me selecting; this was a joint effort selecting them. He
said: What do you think about single-payer insurance? As they went
around, there was only one out of 10 people who said: Well, it might be
a good idea, but we probably ought to take a look at it. The rest of
them said: It won't work in America. We are already used to something
different.
When the hearing was over, Senator Kennedy said to me: You know, I
think these roundtables are a good idea. I think it is a good thing to
kind of hear about what the people are actually experiencing out there
before we write the bill.
Well, we did a lot of healthcare roundtables. One of the witnesses
was from Safeway. Safeway had been able to hold their costs level and
started to bring them down. Of course, we were interested in anybody
who could hold healthcare costs level or bring them down. The way they
had done that was to find out what the costs of different procedures
were in the area where they had stores. After they knew what the cost
of the procedure was, they could take the median price for whatever it
was, and if the people in their store would take the median price, it
didn't cost them anything. If they went above the median price, they
had to pay the difference. If they went below the median price, they
got the difference. So they were actually paying attention, using some
financial literacy in any of the treatments they needed to get, and
they appreciated that their company had done this research for them in
advance so they could have some kind of an idea of what the market
held. He estimated that if they were able to increase the flexibility
they had with this, they could bring down their costs by about 5 to 7
percent a year.
I worked on a 10-step plan--in conjunction with Senator Kennedy on a
lot of it--and talked about it across the country and particularly
across Wyoming. It would have been 10 steps to get healthcare for
everyone without mandates but with incentives.
Mr. VAN HOLLEN addressed the Chair.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senate will be in order.
Mr. VAN HOLLEN. I wonder if the Senator would yield for a question.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senate will be in order.
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Mr. VAN HOLLEN. Will the Senator yield for a question?
Mr. ENZI. The Senator will not yield.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator declines to yield.
The Senator from Wyoming has the floor.
Mr. ENZI. Earlier I mentioned the CO-OPS. I would have preferred the
small business health plans. I didn't think the CO-OPS would work.
CO-OPS were included in ACA.
These plans were meant to provide competition with existing
health insurance companies.
It was an opportunity to set up insurance companies that actually
were funded.
The CO-OPS were given $2.4 billion in ``federal loans.''
The CO-OPS were prohibited from having former healthcare
executives with managerial or accrual experience.
The CO-OPS were conceived to drive down the premiums by
providing competition and underselling the cost for policies.
More than half the 23 CO-OPS went out of business in 2015,
but 8 of the remaining 11 CO-OPS were in financial trouble.
The number of CO-OPS is now down to 7 (4 of the prior CO-
OPS went bankrupt in 2016).
Examples of how the CO-OPS that have failed and have cost
the taxpayers. In 2015 alone, there was a huge amount of
money lost and also cost the enrollees in the CO-OPS their
insurance.
New York Health Republic, 23,000 policies lost, $57 million
dollars lost in the first half of 2015.
Iowan and Nebraska CO-Opportunity Health, 120,000 policies
canceled, $146 million dollars lost. Arizona CO-OP, 59,000
enrollees lost their insurance, $90 million dollars lost.
Colorado CO-OP, 89,000 enrollees insurance canceled, $72
million dollars lost.
Ms. HASSAN addressed the Chair.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senate will be in order.
The Senator from Wyoming has the floor.
Ms. HASSAN. Mr. President, I wonder if the Senator from Wyoming will
yield for a question.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Does the Senator from Wyoming yield for a
question?
Mr. ENZI. No.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator does not yield.
The Senator from Wyoming has the floor.
Mr. ENZI. Continuing:
The [Health and Human Services] and administration
officials knew that the CO-OPS were at risk even before they
received their first ``loan'' in 2014. Senator Rob Portman,
Chairman of the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on
Investigations, said that the HHS knew of serious problems
concerning the failed CO-OPS enrollment strategies, pricing
and financial management before the department ever approved
their initial loans.
Dr. Mandy Cohen, the director of the CMS, testified before
a House subcommittee that 8 of the 11 remaining CO-OP
companies were in serious financial difficulty and receiving
``enhanced oversight'' and ``corrective action.'' Dr. Cohen
did not explain what that ``corrective action'' or ``enhanced
oversight'' consisted of nor could she indicate the
enrollment figures and the possibility of financial survival
for the CO-OPS that were being monitored.
Also, 4 more CO-OPS have failed over the first half of
2016, leaving only 7 remaining.
I am not sure what today's number is.
The HHS continued to make these federal loans though they
knew the CO-OPS were failing.
Under the small business health plans, there is no requirement to
have the Federal Government fund it unless we want to fund more
oversight. I am not opposed to that either.
So What are the American People Think of This?
There has been greater than $1 billion dollar loss of
taxpayer money to CO-OPS that have gone bankrupt.
Only 7 of the initial 23 CO-OPS remain in business.
The CO-OPS were constructed as a way of providing
competition against existing companies, however in order to
do that they underpriced their products. No company can
survive if they take in less than what they put out in
services and understandably, the majority of CO-OPS have gone
out of business.
That could be something to do with their being prohibited from having
former healthcare executives with managerial and accrual experience.
This was known by the HHS before the first ``federal
loans'' had ever been approved.
Over 800,000 people have lost their insurance because the
CO-OPS have gone out of business and there are more to come.
It speaks to the fact that the HHS and ObamaCare
Administration had very little regard for the American
taxpayer and the American people.
The disturbing question is whether any of the taxpayer's
money will be returned.
I did say those were loans, and there aren't many left that can pay
back the loans, which is a little bit of a difficulty.
Of course we did hear that ObamaCare was supposed to bend the cost
curve down. I ought to point out some facts on that as well.
From 2009 to 2012 healthcare, spending grew less than 4
percent, as spending started increasing dramatically in the
first quarter of 2014. This was the start of the
implementation of the legislation. Subsequent healthcare
spending from 2015 showed a 6.8% rise. In 2016, it is
estimated to increase to 6.5% spending growth.
We know from last year, which isn't included in this, that it started
doubling at that point.
Deductibles both inside and outside ObamaCare exchanges
have increased enormously and will continue to increase.
Healthcare costs are now increasing more than inflation.
Why has spending increased? There has been increased
utilization services. The increased healthcare spending thus
led to higher insurance costs. A particular cause of
increased spending related to ObamaCare is a marked increase
in deductibles and health insurance premiums in the ObamaCare
exchanges. Additionally, because of the increased number of
patients with Medicaid expansion there have been increased
costs. Healthcare costs [will] continue to rise.
The total healthcare spending for 2016 is to increase to
over $3 trillion dollars.
I will get some updated numbers on that.
Total healthcare spending . . . rate of spending increase.
Medicaid increased: 11%
Medicare increased: 5.5%
Private insurance spending increased: 4.4%.
If I would have known that Medicare was going to be mentioned, even
though it is not in the bill, I would have shown the little chart that
I have, which shows how much revenue we get for different mandatory
spending that we have.
All of those mandatory spendings are in a little bit of
trouble because the revenue streams to take care of them are
not sufficient. At one point, they were sufficient in some of
them, and the federal government doesn't have any place to
park cash. The federal government puts bonds in a drawer and
spends the cash. That is kind of double dipping because there
is nothing there for later. There is a Social Security trust
fund.
I have learned from trust funds that you have to find money to put in
before you can take money out. I never saw a trust fund that operated
that way until I got here. We have some crises that are coming up. We
are going to compound healthcare because for Federal pensions, we
really don't put any money away for them. We require businesses to put
it away, and we have had some other suggestions. I have some small
pension plans I would like people to look at, some pooling for that,
which I think would encourage more people to have pension plans in
small business.
But the cost of administration is extremely high unless
they can share in that. All of them would require that there
be money put away to be able to cover with reasonable growth
in the interest of the fund so that what was promised could
be taken care of.
In 2006, Senator Kennedy and I worked on saving some pension plans,
trying to make sure that promises that were made could be met. We did a
pension bill that needs to be redone again, particularly for some
sectors of the pension.
The private sector is required to put away money. When the
market goes down, it increases dramatically the amount of
money that they need to put in and creates some problems for
business.
The point I am making is that the Federal Government doesn't do that
with any excess funds we get. I don't care if it is in healthcare or
Social Security or where it is, those excess funds are allowed to be
spent with bonds put in a drawer, with the promise that the full faith
and credit of the Federal Government will cover them. I don't know how
many people at home believe that, but that is what it is.
How has the battle for the quality of healthcare fared? This gets
covered in this book too.
Here is a little bit on the quality of healthcare and outcomes.
The infant mortality rate . . . has been used by
politicians and others in political debate to describe the
inferiority of the U.S. healthcare [system]. U.S. ranked only
30th in the world (and the neonatal mortality below that).
When you look at this data, however, you find a very
different picture. The United States followed the World
Health Organization definition that a live birth is any
infant
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that shows any sign of life, i.e. a baby that takes a single
breath or has a heartbeat. . . . Other countries however
including both developed and underdeveloped countries use
different standards. The definition of ``live births'' varies
between different countries. For example, in Switzerland a
newborn has to be 30 cm. long to be considered a live birth.
In Belgium and France, infants have to be at least 26 weeks
to be considered as live births. Infants less than 24 weeks
gestational age are excluded from registries of live birth in
multiple other countries including Japan and Hong Kong. In
Canada, Germany, and Austria, the newborns weighing less than
500 grams are not considered viable and are excluded from the
infant mortality rates.
What I am saying is, there are games that can be done with that, with
the performance ratings, with the life expectancy data, with the
Commonwealth Fund. All of these things are issues that we are
embarrassed about and things we ought to be working on, things we ought
to improve, things we ought to help with our country.
We need to be looking at all of those outcomes--the cancer outcomes,
the cardiac disease outcomes, the stroke outcomes, the chronic illness
outcomes, the hypertension outcomes, the diabetes and cholesterol
outcomes.
We know that the earlier and more effective there is
treatment of the disease, the better treatment of the disease
for chronic disease, the better the results are. The more
accessible and better technology there is, the more access to
specialty care for early diagnosis and treatment, better
preventive screening, and the inventiveness of the American
people.
I think it was today--my days blend together these days with this
healthcare that we are working on. I was visited by a couple of young
people from Wyoming who have diabetes. We have put some additional
money into research. We, as a Senate, don't say exactly where that
money has to go because we shouldn't be kicking the tires on the
different diseases and figuring that out. I worry about where we might
put the money, if that were the case, because we are affected
differently than what our constituents are.
Both of these young people were on a pump, and I have gotten to meet
Dean Kamen who invented the pump. It is kind of an interesting story.
Of course, that wasn't his first medical invention. His first medical
invention was actually when he was a junior in high school and his
brother was doing a residency in a hospital that handled transplants
for infants. They were mentioning some devices similar to a needle in
which medicine can evidently go through. This was needed for transplant
of a kidney. He was lamenting they didn't have that capability. He went
down to the basement and figured out how to make one of those. That was
his first patent. You probably know him more for the patents of the
Segway.
After he made some money, he got to experiment with some different
things. One of them is that mobile thing that police use and shopping
centers use and tourists use where you ride around on a Segway. He
built that for a specific medical purpose, which was to figure out a
way to have a wheelchair that could climb stairs. Instead of building a
ramp and being limited where there wasn't a ramp, he figured out a
wheelchair that could climb stairs. It could do a number of other
things too. For instance, if the person in a wheelchair went to a
cocktail party, they could rotate the wheels up so they were at
standing level to everybody else.
He had a lot of problems getting it through FDA. He finally got it
through FDA, then was told there are other wheelchairs that are less
expensive so we are not going to pay for that. I think another company
is coming back in to do that. It is an outstanding experience to sit in
a wheelchair and go downstairs with it.
He worked on this diabetic pump. It is interesting how he got into
the diabetic pump. He was told pregnant women who are on insulin, if
they take the insulin doses, they wind up often with babies that have a
bigger head, which makes the delivery a bit more difficult. Everything
changes so the head becomes normal after a period of time, but it is a
problem at childbirth. He thought, what if we gave them a dose of
insulin over a longer period of time; would that have an effect on the
infant? So he invented a machine which started out being a fairly good-
sized machine, but it worked. If they got their insulin over a slow
period of time, but sufficient insulin, the baby didn't have the larger
head.
Well, this man is a businessman. He said: That is good. That will
provide part of a market, but there ought to be a bigger market for it.
He said: I wonder if men would have any benefit from having a diabetic
pump? So he was able to have a trial and found out that also worked. He
worked it down to be smaller and smaller and is working on other kinds
of inventions that will do better things.
We need to keep putting things into innovation. I said a lot of
times: If there is a problem in America and we put on a small
incentive, there will be somebody who will figure out how to turn that
into something very useful.
Mr. President, I think I have been requested by Senator Schumer to
have 2 minutes, and to have 5 more minutes by UC perhaps for others,
but I would ask that at the end, Senator Cornyn be allowed 2 minutes
before the vote.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Democratic leader.
Mr. SCHUMER. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that Mr. Cornyn
can conclude, but I be given 5 minutes and the Senator from Oregon be
given 5 minutes.
Mr. ENZI. I was wrong. I need 5 for Senator Cornyn.
Mr. SCHUMER. Senator Cornyn is to speak after us.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection to 5 minutes for both
sides?
Mr. SCHUMER. No. I ask 5 minutes for the Senator from New York, 5 for
the Senator from Oregon, and 5, finally--or however much time the
Senator from Texas wants.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The majority whip.
Mr. CORNYN. Mr. President, I reserve the right to object. I think it
is only fair that each side gets 5 minutes to speak. Everybody is ready
to vote. We had 2 hours of debate. So I would ask to amend the
unanimous consent request that each side be given 5 minutes to close,
divided up any way you want.
I ask unanimous consent that each side be given 5 minutes to speak.
Mr. SCHUMER. I would simply say to my friend, this is a huge bill. We
have not had a huge amount of time to debate it. We have just seen it
for 2 hours. To ask for another 5 minutes on our side for the ranking
member of Finance, in addition to mine, is not too much to ask.
Mr. CORNYN. Mr. President, I object.
Mr. SCHUMER. Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
The senior assistant legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. SCHUMER. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order
for the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. SCHUMER. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that there be
given 5 minutes to the Senator from Oregon, 5 minutes to myself, and,
in conclusion, 5 minutes to the Senator from Texas.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
The Senator from Oregon.
Mr. WYDEN. Thank you, Mr. President.
I thank my leader, Senator Schumer.
Colleagues, before morning, millions of Americans could be on their
way to lives filled with healthcare misery, eye-popping cost increases,
hollowed-out coverage, and gutted consumer protections.
Colleagues, there are already stories of Americans hoarding pills and
clamoring for screenings because they fear what the future is going to
bring. These are the Americans who took deep breaths of relief 7 years
ago when the Affordable Care Act became law. Women were no longer
penalized for their gender. Cancer survivors no longer had to worry
about busting a limit on coverage and facing personal bankruptcy.
Entrepreneurs with a big idea had the freedom to set out on their own,
no longer tied to their employer insurance because they had a
preexisting condition. Now all of them are looking at lives on hold.
The skinny repeal package makes a mockery out of the President's
promise to lower premiums. He made that promise repeatedly to the
American people: no reductions in coverage, no increases in premiums.
This bill makes a mockery out of that Presidential
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pledge. Don't take my word for it. The Congressional Budget Office--the
independent umpires--have told us the premiums are going to jump 20
percent next year as a result of this bill. That goes into effect,
colleagues, January 1 of this year. Some happy New Year: Your premiums
have jumped through the roof.
Colleagues, vote for this and try to explain it to the people you
represent and have them tell you that there is not going to be anything
they can sacrifice to pay for that rate hike. Their wages are flat,
they are on an economic tightrope, and they are going to have to have
premium hikes with a 20-percent hit.
The Finance Committee is accountable for funds that are critical for
women's health. This measure begins the effort to take away the right
of women to go to the provider they choose. That, too, will be hard to
explain to millions of Americans who simply want what we have: the
right to make your own healthcare choices.
Colleagues, the damage may get worse. Skinny repeal could be the
gateway drug to TrumpCare. We still don't know what is going to happen
with Medicaid so seniors are worried, kids with special needs, disabled
folks. If the Senate and the House head to a conference--that is a big
``if''--this body is going to face a radical set of demands from a very
stubborn extreme on the other side of the Capitol.
My time has expired. I appreciate Leader Schumer getting me this
time. The promises Senators have gotten to protect their constituents,
those promises could well be in the trash can within 48 hours.
I urge my colleagues to think about what it is going to be like to go
home and explain to their constituents how this misery--how this
healthcare misery came to be a part of their lives every single day. I
don't think they are going to be able to make the case.
I urge my colleagues to support Senator Murray on this motion to
recommit.
I yield back.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Democratic leader.
Mr. SCHUMER. Mr. President, let me thank my colleagues on the other
side of the aisle for yielding us time.
This august body has been around for over 220 years. It has rules. It
has traditions we are very proud of. In recent years--both parties to
blame--many of those traditions have been eroded. What happens when you
erode the traditions--the bipartisanship, the ability to work through
the regular order--is very simply that the product that emerges is not
very good. There is a reason this body has been the greatest
deliberative body in the world, and it is because it had those
traditions. Now we don't have them.
We have a bill that we have seen for 2 hours. It affects the
healthcare, perhaps the lives--almost certainly the lives--of millions.
It affects the daily lives of men and women and children. We haven't
even had a chance to explore all the ramifications. There is a lot of
anger on the other side at the ACA. I understand that, but you are
repeating what you claim are the same mistakes.
Just as maybe ObamaCare could have been made better if it were a
bipartisan proposal, this one certainly would have been made better.
This skinny repeal, CBO tells us, will kick 15 million people--16
million people--off care. This skinny bill, after all the cries of
reducing premiums as the major reason that ObamaCare needed changes,
will raise premiums 20 percent a year, ad infinitum. The average
working family is going to struggle to get healthcare even more than
they have now.
Why is this being rushed through this way? Why is this being done in
the dark of night? I can't believe my colleagues are proud of it. If
they were, there would be brass bands down the streets of smalltown
America celebrating this bill. That is not what is happening. It is
midnight. Debate is curtailed. We can't amend it in the open. We can't
do what is needed.
So I would plead once more with my colleagues, let's start over. We
are the first to admit that the present law needs some changes. We are
the first to want--maybe having learned our own lessons--that it should
be done in a bipartisan and sharing way. Let's start over.
We can do better. We can do better for all those people who are going
to be hurt. We can do better for the traditions of this great
institution. We can do better as Americans who love our country and
love our democracy and love our process. It is not too late to turn
back from this proposal ideologically driven and do better because we
all are not proud of this product. I don't think there is hardly anyone
in this body who is proud of this product.
Let's make this a turning point, not just on healthcare but in how we
function together. We plead with you, let us commit this bill. Let us
vote against skinny repeal, and let's work together to improve our
healthcare system in the way our Founding Fathers intended us to
improve it.
I yield the floor
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The majority whip.
Mr. CORNYN. Mr. President, it is important to remember how we got
here. I still remember voting on the Affordable Care Act at 7:30 in the
morning on Christmas Eve. Because this bill--the 2,700-page bill that
our Democratic friends did not read and which Ms. Pelosi said we have
to pass it before we know what is in it--that bill was passed on a
party-line vote and signed into law by President Obama without any
participation of Republicans. So it is a little hard on the ears to
hear my friend, the Democratic leader, plead for bipartisan solutions
now.
I agree with him, it is not too late because this is an open
amendment process. Our Democratic friends, rather than trying to kill
the bill, can help us make this bill better.
I suspect that based on their comments, that they really need--we
need to have some sort of remedial legislation 101 because this is not
the end of the process. But in order for the House and the Senate to
work together to come up with a bill we both agree to, there is a
conference committee, which Members of both parties can appoint Members
to the conference committee to work out differences. I don't believe my
friend, the Democratic leader, is really interested in working on a
bipartisan basis to fix the structural defects in ObamaCare.
We know the individual market is in meltdown. Premiums are
skyrocketing, contrary to the promises made by the President when the
bill was sold. We know deductibles are so high that people are
basically denied the benefit of their coverage and, yes, insurance
companies are fleeing because they are bleeding red ink, and they can't
economically sell insurance on the exchanges anymore.
So we all know something needs to be done, but we are not interested
in just throwing more money at insurance companies, bailing out
insurance companies, which is what I have heard from our friends on the
other side. Well, it is not true. It is not the only thing we have
heard. We have also heard the Senator from Vermont, for example,
advocate for a single-payer system.
What this bill does do is it repeals the individual mandate, which to
us is an unacceptable government coercion of American citizens forcing
them to buy a product they don't want and they can't afford, because
currently 28 million people are uninsured under ObamaCare. I thought it
was supposed to provide coverage for everybody, but in my State, about
450,000 Texans who earn less than $25,000 a year are paying the penalty
because they can't afford the insurance, so they pay the penalty, and
it is not working.
We are doing everything we can, given the fact that our friends on
the other side of the aisle are simply sitting on their hands and not
participating in the process, other than to try to undermine it.
We intend to pass a bill and go to conference with the House to make
this bill better because our goal is to stabilize the markets, to bring
down premiums, to protect people with preexisting conditions, and to
put Medicaid, the safety net for low-income Americans, on a sustainable
path. You would think those would be things that our colleagues across
the aisle would want to join us in and participate in but apparently
not.
We need to move on. We can't let the fact that our Democratic friends
are unwilling to participate keep us from doing our duty the best we
can under the circumstances, and that is what this bill represents. It
is not perfect,
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but it is better than the status quo, and we intend to do our duty.
Mr. President, I yield back.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. All time has expired.
VOTE ON MOTION TO COMMIT
The question is on agreeing to the Murray motion to commit.
Mr. SCHUMER. I ask for the yeas and nays.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there a sufficient second?
There appears to be a sufficient second.
The clerk will call the roll.
The senior assistant legislative clerk called the roll.
The result was announced--yeas 48, nays 52, as follows:
[Rollcall Vote No. 178 Leg.]
YEAS--48
Baldwin
Bennet
Blumenthal
Booker
Brown
Cantwell
Cardin
Carper
Casey
Coons
Cortez Masto
Donnelly
Duckworth
Durbin
Feinstein
Franken
Gillibrand
Harris
Hassan
Heinrich
Heitkamp
Hirono
Kaine
King
Klobuchar
Leahy
Manchin
Markey
McCaskill
Menendez
Merkley
Murphy
Murray
Nelson
Peters
Reed
Sanders
Schatz
Schumer
Shaheen
Stabenow
Tester
Udall
Van Hollen
Warner
Warren
Whitehouse
Wyden
NAYS--52
Alexander
Barrasso
Blunt
Boozman
Burr
Capito
Cassidy
Cochran
Collins
Corker
Cornyn
Cotton
Crapo
Cruz
Daines
Enzi
Ernst
Fischer
Flake
Gardner
Graham
Grassley
Hatch
Heller
Hoeven
Inhofe
Isakson
Johnson
Kennedy
Lankford
Lee
McCain
McConnell
Moran
Murkowski
Paul
Perdue
Portman
Risch
Roberts
Rounds
Rubio
Sasse
Scott
Shelby
Strange
Sullivan
Thune
Tillis
Toomey
Wicker
Young
The motion was rejected.
Vote on Amendment No. 667
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Perdue). The question is on agreeing to
amendment No. 667.
Mr. ENZI. I ask for the yeas and nays.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there a sufficient second?
There is a sufficient second.
The clerk will call the roll.
The legislative clerk called the roll.
The result was announced--yeas 49, nays 51, as follows:
[Rollcall Vote No. 179 Leg.]
YEAS--49
Alexander
Barrasso
Blunt
Boozman
Burr
Capito
Cassidy
Cochran
Corker
Cornyn
Cotton
Crapo
Cruz
Daines
Enzi
Ernst
Fischer
Flake
Gardner
Graham
Grassley
Hatch
Heller
Hoeven
Inhofe
Isakson
Johnson
Kennedy
Lankford
Lee
McConnell
Moran
Paul
Perdue
Portman
Risch
Roberts
Rounds
Rubio
Sasse
Scott
Shelby
Strange
Sullivan
Thune
Tillis
Toomey
Wicker
Young
NAYS--51
Baldwin
Bennet
Blumenthal
Booker
Brown
Cantwell
Cardin
Carper
Casey
Collins
Coons
Cortez Masto
Donnelly
Duckworth
Durbin
Feinstein
Franken
Gillibrand
Harris
Hassan
Heinrich
Heitkamp
Hirono
Kaine
King
Klobuchar
Leahy
Manchin
Markey
McCain
McCaskill
Menendez
Merkley
Murkowski
Murphy
Murray
Nelson
Peters
Reed
Sanders
Schatz
Schumer
Shaheen
Stabenow
Tester
Udall
Van Hollen
Warner
Warren
Whitehouse
Wyden
Young
The amendment (No. 667) was rejected.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The majority leader.
Mr. McCONNELL. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that H.R. 1628
be returned to the calendar.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
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