[Congressional Record Volume 162, Number 4 (Thursday, January 7, 2016)]
[House]
[Pages H167-H170]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
GUN VIOLENCE AND GUN CONTROL IN AMERICA
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Bost). Under the Speaker's announced
policy of January 6, 2015, the gentlewoman from Texas (Ms. Jackson Lee)
is recognized for the remainder of the hour as the designee of the
minority leader.
Ms. JACKSON LEE. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentlewoman from New
Jersey, and I thank her for guiding us over the past couple of minutes
dealing with an important issue.
Let me quickly move us forward because, in just a few minutes, the
President of the United States will join with a number of Americans on
a very important townhall meeting dealing with the question of this
very important issue of gun violence.
Today I rise as the ranking member of the Crime, Terrorism, Homeland
Security, and Investigations Subcommittee of the Committee on the
Judiciary, but I rise also, as my colleague, as a member of the
Congressional Progressive Caucus that has been at the leadership. I
thank both Chairman Grijalva and Chairman Ellison for their leadership
and the opportunity for this time.
Again, much was made of the fact that the President, in his last
term, or his last year, sought to take on this very complicated issue.
Much was made of the fact that the President chose gun violence as
something that he took a personal and emotional interest in.
Let me be very clear. There is never a time that is too short a time
to confront the horrors of gun violence in this country. Let me give
you simply an example of what we face not with adults who have
confronted each other with a gun, but toddlers who are getting shot on
a weekly basis. For example, a 2-year-old in South Carolina found a gun
in the backseat of the car he was riding in and accidentally shot his
grandmother, who was sitting in the passenger's seat.
I found at least 43 instances this year of somebody being shot by a
toddler 3 or younger. In 31 of these 43 cases, a toddler found a gun
and shot himself or herself. These stories are emotional and they are
real. In one instance, a 3-year-old managed to wound both of his
parents with a single gunshot at an Albuquerque motel. Shootings by
toddlers have happened in 24 States so far this year.
There is a story that comes to mind dealing with a little boy, a
loving little boy in Kentucky who accidentally shot his 2-year-old
sister to death. Why? Because someone gave him a gun made by a
manufacturer who made guns for children.
Now, Mr. Speaker, I am not here to make moral judgments. That is
something that I would not do, give a child that is 5 years old a gun.
But what I am here to speak to is how we can come together, those who
advocate and use guns, those who believe in open carry, those who
believe in concealed weapons, those who believe in rifle shooting and
deer hunting. All of that is part of the American way. There is no
angst with that.
What I am saying and what the President is saying with a tearful,
emotional plea that he made just a few days ago is that we in America
can do better. The Constitution says we can do better. The Declaration
of Independence says we can do better. The First Amendment clearly
provides us the access and the rights of free speech and movement, and
the Second Amendment is clear that we do have a right to bear arms.
Many of us historically believe that that was, of course, an
amendment put in place to protect the beginning Founding Fathers and
Mothers, if you will, in these early Colonies and to make sure that
they were not overrun by the British. But it is still a standing
amendment, and it takes a procedure for it to be undermined, which is
the argument that I make for those who continuously raise the fact that
the President and those of us who believe in gun safety or gun
regulation--which is not controlled--are, in fact, trying to diminish
the Second Amendment. We are not.
But what we are trying to do is to do as the President has suggested:
keep guns out of the wrong hands through background checks. For
example, unfortunately, the tragedy in South Carolina, Charleston,
South Carolina, where a crazed individual wanted to provoke a race war,
worshipped with nine parishioners at Mother Emanuel Church, sat and
prayed with the pastor, a distinguished senator, and those other loving
saints, then sprayed bullets and killed nine of them, that individual
had items in his background that should have warranted him not getting
a gun.
But what happened under law? The storekeeper, the gunshop owner,
after 3 days when that particular affirmation or approval had not come,
he gave the gun anyway. Foolish. It is so very foolish. There should be
an extensive requirement that there is a background check when you are
buying a gun on the Internet or other places we are exchanging guns.
The President recognizes those kind of loopholes and wishes to avoid
those kind of loopholes. The ATF is making clear that it doesn't matter
where you conduct business--from a store, at a gun show, or over the
Internet--if you are in the business of selling firearms, you must get
a license and conduct background checks. It baffles me why some people
have said that won't make any difference. Yes, it will, because a lot
of times in gun shows people who are here to do wrong are, in fact,
going to be taking any easy way to get guns.
Let me cite you an example. I always hear that those cities who have
rigid gun laws, it doesn't matter. This is the argument I get from my
friends in the NRA, and I call them my friends because I hope one day
we will sit down at the table of engagement and collaboration because
that is the American way.
Let me give you the statistics that make sense. New York has strong
gun laws, and Governor Cuomo implemented some stronger gun laws after
certain tragedies occurred in his State. But here are the statistics
that argue and refute and extinguish the argument of the NRA: 70
percent of the guns recovered by police in New York State in 2013
originated out of the State. The gun laws in New York are working, but
because of their neighbors, they are suffering. That is why we need to
have a regulated system that doesn't take people's guns away, but
provides the safety and security that the American people determine.
I didn't say, Mr. Speaker, that 70 percent of the guns found in the
hands of law-abiding citizens were from out of State. I said 70 percent
of the guns that the New York City, NYPD, that has a
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great deal of respect across this Nation as one of the top accredited
law enforcement agencies, 70 percent of those that they found were
black-market guns coming into that State from elsewhere. That is a
tragedy.
I will tell you for sure that some of those guns were used to maim
and kill and to fight in gun battles in the streets because we allow
the kind of selling of guns without background checks and people going
off and getting gun sales in the back of cars. We know that that has
happened.
ATF has finalized a rule to require background checks for people
trying to buy some of the most dangerous weapons and other items
through a trust corporation or other legal entity. Whatever we might
say, I don't believe that it is relevant for us to have the AK-47s just
walking up and down the street, even if you want to say you believe in
open carry.
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Also, overhauling the background check system to make it more
effective and efficient. It is worth noting how many background checks
are done. Make this 24 hours, 7 days a week. Maybe that would have
prevented, I think, the tragedy in South Carolina. Make our communities
safe from guns. Call on U.S. Attorneys to explain to people about gun
safety.
When I was on the Houston City Council, I introduced the first gun
ordinance in a city--that gun safety ordinance is in place today--which
was to hold parents responsible for children getting guns and shooting
someone. Why? Because those guns should have been secured. There is
nothing unconstitutional about regulating and saving the lives of
children.
Also, introducing 200 new ATF agents. I am very proud that
Congresswoman Robin Kelly and myself--and we invite my colleagues to
join in this legislation--introduced legislation that would, in fact,
provide for 200 additional Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearm and
Explosive agents and investigators to enforce gun laws. This is the
very same thing that Republicans have been talking about. It is H.R.
4316. I invite my colleagues to join in that legislation to make a
difference in the lives of so many.
Let me say that, in addition, we want to make sure that we are
highlighting the importance of receiving complete criminal history
records and criminal dispositions. We want our States to be
collaborative. Send to us the accurate records of those who perpetrate
a crime in your community. That is making this particular background
check more effective. We are going to do the heavy lifting 24 hours, 7
days a week with better technology.
Make our communities safe, as I said. Teach about gun safety.
Increase mental health treatment and reporting. We are talking about
$500 million. The President needs our collaboration.
I am very glad that we have also introduced, along with Congresswoman
Bass, the authority to authorize funding to increase access to mental
health care treatment in order to reduce gun violence.
In the aftermath of the President's speech, I heard all of this talk
about how we should be getting involved in gun violence and we should
be talking about gun violence. I heard one Presidential candidate
saying that we should be looking for the criminally ill. Well, what do
you think this is?
The President is asking for help from the ATF, and now he is asking
for grants and the resources to deal with the criminally ill or those
who are suffering from mental health issues and to stop them from
committing gun violence, the very circumstance that occurred with
respect to the horrificness of Sandy Hook.
And as I hold up this poster board--the individual ultimately took
his life and the life of his mother--can we imagine these babies that
lost their lives? In fact, we understand that some of those law
enforcement officers could barely stand up as they went in and looked
at the carnage. Certainly, that individual was known to have suffered
from some form of mental illness. There should have been an
intervention there.
The President is asking for resources to help us with those who are
suffering from mental health issues. He wants the Social Security
Administration, as indicated, to begin a rulemaking process to include
information about beneficiaries who are, in fact, suffering from mental
health needs.
This is not an invasion of privacy. This is information. This is not
knocking on the door of those who are suffering from mental health
concerns. But it is helping us be more effective if that individual
seeks to purchase a gun.
We want to shape the future of gun safety technology. The President
directed the Departments of Homeland Security--which I am on--Defense,
and Justice to conduct or sponsor research. Guns can be more safe. If a
child gets a gun in their hand, there can be more detail to pulling
that trigger.
The little boy that shot his sister, there was one bullet left in
that gun. The parents didn't know it. It was left in a corner. He
picked it up. It was his toy gun. He is a child.
We need to be able to be responsive and start boxing each other and
get around the same circle of improvement. Keeping guns out of the
wrong hands through background checks is what the President has
offered.
Then, of course, we need to work to make our communities safe from
gun violence by hiring 230 additional NICS examiners and other staff to
assist with processing mandatory background checks.
I think I mentioned the mental health resources that I think are so
very important. I would also suggest that we ensure federally that
people keep their guns safe. It is very crucial that we insist that
guns are safe.
Let me also indicate that Mr. Clyburn has a very important
initiative--he represents the district where the tragedy occurred in
South Carolina--to get rid of this 3-day check and to make sure that
everyone has a background check, no matter what is occurring.
Let me finish, Mr. Speaker, with indicating the gun-related homicides
in this country. The rate of gun-related homicides in the U.S. is far
higher than that of other large and affluent countries. Are they any
less stronger than we are? We have the highest number of homicides done
by guns.
We have Italy, Taiwan, Canada, Spain, Germany, Australia, the United
Kingdom, France, South Korea, and Japan. Even with the terrorist
activities, they are way below America. And you can see here the 353
mass shootings in America in 2015. All of those are by guns.
If you are too dangerous to fly, you are too dangerous to buy a gun
in America. I have the no-fly for foreign terrorists. But, more
importantly, we had legislation that Mr. King sponsored, I believe, and
others that just simply said: If you are on the no-fly list, you can't
have a gun.
I want to find common ground, but most of all, I want to save lives.
Here today I am saying to my colleagues that we are not saving lives if
we are not sitting at the table of involvement.
I will include in the Record a whole list of legislative initiatives
about gun storage and safety devices and firearms transfer reporting,
which is similar to what happened in South Carolina, where this
gentleman got a gun--effectively, he would not have been approved--
also, one on establishing a select committee on gun violence and gun
violence research--these are by other Members--also, recognizing gun
violence is a public health emergency, and coming back to allow the
Centers for Disease Control to finally do research on the impact of gun
violence.
gun violence prevention legislation & legislative support
1. H.R. 4315 (Rep. Jackson Lee)--Mental Health Access and
Gun Violence Prevention Act-authorizes $500 million for
mental health treatment access and to assist in the reporting
of relevant disqualifying mental health information to the
FBI's background check system NICS.
2. H.R. 4316 (Rep. Jackson Lee)--Gun Violence Reduction
Resources Act--authorizes the hiring of 200 additional ATF
agents and investigators for enforcement of existing gun
laws.
3. H.R. 47 (Rep. Jackson Lee), Gun Storage And Safety
Devices For All Firearms Act, a bill directing the Attorney
General to enforce that any firearm transferred to a person
who is not a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or
licensed dealer must provide a secure gun storage or safety
device.
4. H.R. 3125 (Rep. Jackson Lee), Accidental Firearms
Transfers Reporting Act, a bill directing the Federal Bureau
of Investigations to report to Congress semiannually the
number of firearms transfers resulting from the failure to
complete a background check within 3 business days, and the
procedures followed after it is discovered that the firearm
transfer has been made to an ineligible person.
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5. H.R. 3051 (Rep. Clyburn, James, SC-6) Background Check
Completion Act: a bill to eliminate the requirement that a
firearms dealer transfer a firearm if the national instant
criminal background check system has been unable to complete
a background check of the prospective transferee within 3
business days.
6. H. Res. 467 (Rep. Thompson, Mike (CA-5) Establishing the
Select Committee on Gun Violence Prevention, responsible for
issuing a final report and recommendations, including
legislative proposals within 60 days of its establishment.
7. H.R. 3926 (Rep. Honda, Michael, CA-17) Gun Violence
Research Act, to amend the Public Health Service Act to
provide for better understanding of the epidemic of gun
violence.
8. H.R. 224 (Rep. Kelly, Robin, IL-2) the Recognizing Gun
Violence as a Public Health Emergency Act: To help us learn
more about the true public health impact of domestic gun
violence, and provide us with the data we need to make sound
recommendations to make our communities safer.
9. H.R. 225 (Rep. Kelly, Robin, IL-2) Firearm Safety Act of
2015: to amend the Consumer Product Safety Act to remove from
the definition of ``consumer product'' the exclusion for any
article sold by a manufacturer, producer, or importer that
would be subject to a firearms sales tax under the Internal
Revenue Code for pistols, revolvers, and other firearms,
including shells and cartridges, thereby permitting the
Consumer Product Safety Commission to issue safety standards
for such articles.
10. H.R. 226 (Rep. Kelly, Robin, IL-2) Keeping Guns from
High Risk Individuals Act: A bill to amend the Brady Handgun
Violence Prevention Act to prohibit the sale or disposition
of a firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having
reasonable cause to believe that such person: has been
convicted of a crime of violence in the previous 10 years; is
under age 25 and has been adjudicated as an adult as having
committed a crime of violence; has been convicted on 2
separate occasions in any period of 3 consecutive years in
the last 10 of an offense that has the possession or
distribution of alcohol or a controlled substance as an
element; or has been convicted of stalking. And further
prohibits any such person from shipping or transporting in
interstate or foreign commerce, or possessing in or affecting
commerce, any firearm or ammunition; or receiving any firearm
or ammunition which has been shipped or transported in
interstate or foreign commerce.
11. H.R. 1217 (Rep. King, Peter, NY-2) Public Safety and
Second Amendment Rights Protection Act of 2015: A bill to
amend the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act to
reauthorize for FY2016-FY2019 the grant program for
improvements to the criminal history record system, and
establishes the National Commission on Mass Violence to study
the availability and nature of firearms, including the means
of acquiring firearms, issues relating to mental health, and
the impacts of the availability and nature of firearms on
incidents of mass violence or in preventing mass violence.
12. H.R. 2767 (Rep. Johnson, Henry C. ``Hank,'' Jr., GA-4),
Airport Security Act of 2015: Directs the Transportation
Security Administration (TSA) to establish a program to
prohibit all but specified authorized individuals from
possessing a firearm at a covered airport, including any
individual who enters the airport, or exits public
transportation at it, for air travel, meeting another
individual, picking up cargo, or employment.
13. H.R. 3497 (Rep. Engel, Eliot, NY), Protect Law
Enforcement Armor (PLEA) Act: To ban the sale of the FN Five-
seveN and other armor-piercing handguns and ensure new
weapons like it stay off our streets.
14. H. RES. 520 (Rep. Lawrence, Brenda, MI-14), Expressing
the sense of the House of Representatives that the Federal
firearms laws should be rigorously enforced, that all
appropriate measures should be taken to end the flood of
unlawfully purchased firearms into our communities, and that
adequate resources should be provided to accomplish such
purposes.
15. Member, Gun Violence Prevention Task Force
16. Panelist, Congressional Roundtable on Gun Violence in
Communities of Color and Combating `Bad Apple' Gun Dealers
17. Congressional Letter, urging major news broadcasters to
raise greater awareness to the high number of casualties by
guns that occur every day by broadcasting a list of names and
photos of victims in every state.
18. Congressional Letter, requesting a meeting with the
United States Attorney General, Loretta Lynch, to discuss
alternate gun crime and violence prevention policies.
19. Congressional Letter, requesting Executive Action by
President Barack Obama to clarify what it means to be
`engaged in the business' of selling guns in order to prevent
unlicensed sellers from engaging in the sale of guns without
background check.
Ms. JACKSON LEE. If we don't stand together, then the long litany of
children that have died by gun violence, Mr. Speaker, will continue.
The only thing that will stop this is for us to recognize that we
have gun deaths, gun deaths by justified homicide and criminal
homicide, mass shootings, mental health shootings with guns, and
suicide, guns and domestic violence.
The only thing that will happen is that it will continue. Does anyone
want this kind of massacre to continue at the hands of someone using a
gun?
Some of the aspects of what the President has presented--background
checks, mental health resources, ATF, FBI--200 more--if we join
together, I can assure you America can find her comfortable place in
the sun with a wonderful Constitution and democracy, where all of us,
no matter what our philosophy, what our political party, can come
around the issue of saving lives.
I am pleased to join my colleagues of the Congressional Progressive
Caucus in this important Special Order on universal child care and gun
violence in America.
I would like to thank Congresswoman Bonnie Watson Coleman for
convening this evening's Special Order and for her dedicated leadership
on critical issues impacting children and working families, including
this evening's topic of universal childcare and gun safety.
As we turn to the topic of gun violence in America, I would also like
to thank President Obama for his leadership and for helping to bring
this issue to the forefront of our national priorities.
Gun violence in America can no longer be swept under the rug, ignored
or irrationally justified.
We are in a state of national crisis and it is time to act.
Upon taking office, every Member of Congress makes a solemn pledge:
to protect and defend the American people.
This is the most important oath we take as elected officials--and, to
honor this promise, we must do everything in our power to stem gun
violence in our nation.
Yet, after another mass shooting and countless acts of gun violence
in communities across our country every day, House Republicans are
still unwilling to act to stop gun violence and save lives in American
communities.
The Democrats have been calling for an immediate vote on the
bipartisan King-Thompson Public Safety and Second Amendment Rights
Protection Act to strengthen the life-saving background checks that
keep guns out of the wrong hands.
This Congress has a moral obligation to do our part to end the gun
violence epidemic.
Now is the time for Republicans to join Democrats in protecting the
lives of Americans by taking common sense steps to save lives.
The Administration has announced two new executive actions that will
help strengthen the federal background check system and keep guns out
of the wrong hands.
I have introduced two bills that will hopefully enhance these
executive actions and support the President's recently announced action
on gun violence.
H.R. 4315--Mental Health Access and Gun Violence Prevention Act--
authorizes $500 million for mental health treatment access and to
assist in the reporting of relevant disqualifying mental health
information to the FBI's background check system NICS.
H.R. 4316--Gun Violence Reduction Resources Act--authorizes the
hiring of 200 additional ATF agents and investigators for enforcement
of existing gun laws. The President included these specific requests in
yesterday's announcements and these bills respond to those requests.
Additionally, the Department of Justice (DOJ) is proposing a
regulation to clarify who is prohibited from possessing a firearm under
federal law for reasons related to mental health.
And the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) is issuing a
proposed regulation to address barriers preventing states from
submitting limited information on those persons to the federal
background check system.
Ending gun violence in America requires a comprehensive approach--we
must come together and work towards this common goal.
Too many Americans have been severely injured or lost their lives as
a result of gun violence.
While the vast majority of Americans who experience a mental illness
are not violent.
However, in some cases when persons with a mental illness does not
receive the treatment they need, the result can be tragedies such as
homicide or suicide.
We must continue to address mental health issues by:
Supporting expanded coverage of mental health services and enhanced
training and hiring of mental health professionals; and
Continuing the national conversation on mental health to reduce
stigma associated with having a mental illness and getting help; and
We must also continue to do everything we can to making sure that
anyone who may pose a danger to themselves or others does not have
access to a gun.
The federal background check system is one of the most effective ways
of assuring that
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such individuals are not able to purchase a firearm from a licensed gun
dealer.
To date, background checks have prevented over two million guns from
falling into the wrong hands.
The Administration's two new executive actions will help ensure that
better and more reliable information makes its way into the background
check system.
The Administration, however, has acknowledged the need for collective
action and continues to call upon Members of Congress to pass common-
sense gun safety legislation and to expand funding to increase access
to mental health services.
I too call upon my colleagues to come together and pass legislation
that will help stop the loss of innocent lives.
While we have made some progress in strengthening the National
Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), which is used to run
background checks on those who buy guns from federally licensed gun
dealers to make sure they are not prohibited by law from owning a
firearm, we must do more.
I am a strong supporter of a right of privacy and I am particularly
sensitive and protective of patient privacy rights.
I support the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act
that was passed by Congress in 1996, and includes privacy protection
for medical records, which includes mental healthcare information.
However, there are specific areas under federal law that allow the
disclosure of medical information to authorities, and in these
instances there should be an agreement that when a person poses a
threat to themselves or others (as determined by a court or
adjudicative authority with the medical and legal knowledge and
authority to make a determination that a person poses a threat to
themselves or to others) should not be allowed to purchase a fire arm.
Technology that could be deployed to access court records and arrest
records as they relate to mental health and violent behavior should not
rely upon a list that may become outdated or could be used in ways that
are not consistent with the intent of enhancing gun safety.
The ability to access information that is accurate and available for
the limited purpose of affirming or rejecting a request to purchase a
firearm without indicating the source of the decision or the reason for
the rejection would still protect privacy rights while also protecting
the public.
The president's proposal on mental health and gun violence is to
enforce the laws already in place.
Under a federal law enacted in 1968, an individual is prohibited from
buying or possessing firearms for life if he/she has been ``adjudicated
as a mental defective'' or ``committed to a mental institution.''
A person is ``adjudicated as a mental defective'' if a court--or
other entity having legal authority to make adjudications--has made a
determination that an individual, as a result of mental illness: 1) Is
a danger to himself or to others; 2) Lacks the mental capacity to
contract or manage his own affairs; 3) Is found insane by a court in a
criminal case, or incompetent to stand trial, or not guilty by reason
of lack of mental responsibility pursuant to the Uniform Code of
Military Justice.
A person is ``committed to a mental institution'' if that person has
been involuntarily committed to a mental institution by a court or
other lawful authority. This expressly excludes voluntary commitment.
It should be noted, however, that federal law currently allows states
to establish procedures for mentally ill individuals to restore their
right to possess and purchase firearms (many states have done so at the
behest of the National Rifle Association, with questionable results).
It is undoubtedly true that people who are a danger to self and/or
others because of mental illness should be prohibited from owning
firearms.
It is less clear, however, how to tailor new policies to better
protect the American public while at the same time avoiding the
stigmatization of Americans with mental illness.
Any strategy to address the lethal intersection between guns and
mental illness should focus of the key facts:
On average, more than 100,000 people in America are shot in murders,
assaults, and other crimes.
More than 32,000 people die from gun violence annually, including
2,677 children under the age of eighteen years old.
Suicide is the leading cause of gun related deaths in America.
60 percent of deaths by guns in America are the result of individuals
using these weapons as a means to commit suicide.
Some of these deaths might have been prevented if there were adequate
background checks.
Each year hundreds of law enforcement officers lose their lives to
gun violence been shot to death protecting their communities.
Millions of guns are sold every year in ``no questions asked''
transactions and experts estimate that 40 percent of guns now sold in
America are done so without a background check.
National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) was created
in 1998 to require potential gun buyers to pass an instant screening at
the point of purchase.
Ensures that purchasers are not felons, domestic abusers, mentally
ill, etc.
NICS has blocked sales to more than 2 million prohibited people.
NICS stops 170 felons and 53 domestic abusers from purchasing guns
every day.
The most serious issue facing NICS is the ``private sale loophole''.
This allows anyone who is not a federally-licensed dealer to sell
guns without a background checks.
An estimated 40% of gun transfers--6.6 million transfers--are
conducted without a background check.
Armslist.com is the largest online seller of firearms.
66,000 gun ads are posted by private sellers on a given day, 750,000
per year.
Nearly 1/3rd of gun ads on Armslist.com are posted by high-volume
unlicensed sellers (approx. 4,218 people).
High-volume sellers posted 29% of the gun ads.
High-volume sellers posted 36,069 gun ads over 2 months.
This would equate to around 243,800 guns each year by unlicensed
sellers.
50% were familiar with federal laws but decided they didn't apply to
them.
1/3rd of ``want-to-buy'' ads are posted by people with a criminal
record.
More than 4 times the rate at which prohibited gun buyers try to buy
guns in stores.
Approximately 25,000 guns are in illegal hands.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
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