[Congressional Record Volume 161, Number 178 (Wednesday, December 9, 2015)]
[House]
[Pages H9173-H9186]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
RED RIVER PRIVATE PROPERTY PROTECTION ACT
General Leave
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that all
Members may have 5 legislative days in which to revise and extend their
remarks and include extraneous materials on the bill, H.R. 2130.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Fleischmann). Is there objection to the
request of the gentleman from Utah?
There was no objection.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to House Resolution 556 and rule
XVIII, the Chair declares the House in the Committee of the Whole House
on the state of the Union for the consideration of the bill, H.R. 2130.
The Chair appoints the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Poe) to preside over
the Committee of the Whole.
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In the Committee of the Whole
Accordingly, the House resolved itself into the Committee of the
Whole House on the state of the Union for the consideration of the bill
(H.R. 2130) to provide legal certainty to property owners along the Red
River in Texas, and for other purposes, with Mr. Poe of Texas in the
chair.
The Clerk read the title of the bill.
The CHAIR. Pursuant to the rule, the bill is considered read the
first time.
General debate shall not exceed 1 hour equally divided and controlled
by the chair and ranking minority member of the Committee on Natural
Resources.
The gentleman from Utah (Mr. Bishop) and the gentlewoman from
Massachusetts (Ms. Tsongas) each will control 30 minutes.
The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Utah.
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Chairman, this is an extremely important bill
to the people who live in this particular area of Texas and Oklahoma.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from California (Mr.
McClintock), the subcommittee chair who heard this bill.
Mr. McCLINTOCK. Mr. Chairman, every now and then, we have a chance to
stop an injustice and restore the fundamental purpose of our government
to secure the inalienable rights of the people. In this instance, the
Federal Government has become destructive of this end. It is attempting
to seize thousands of acres of private land lawfully owned by American
citizens along a 116-mile stretch of the Red River between Texas and
Oklahoma. Mr. Thornberry's bill would stop this injustice, reassert the
rule of law, and restore the unclouded title of these lands to their
rightful owners.
In 1923, the U.S. Supreme Court established the rules for determining
the boundary between Texas and Oklahoma that established the property
rights over this land. For nearly a century, the Federal Government
recognized and respected the property lines established by this ruling.
Property owners purchased and sold this land and, in some cases, passed
it down from generation to generation. These property owners, in good
faith, dutifully paid
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taxes on their lands year after year, invested in these lands,
maintained them, cultivated them, and improved them.
Out of the blue, the Bureau of Land Management has now announced that
it is arbitrarily changing the boundaries established by the Supreme
Court and is seizing this land for itself.
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This outrageous claim clouds the property rights along this vast
territory. It is based on the flimsiest of pretexts, a limited survey
over a fraction of this land that ignored the 1923 Supreme Court decree
that originally established these boundary lines. In other words, it is
a guess based upon a fraud.
The Red River Private Property Protection Act rights this obvious
wrong. It requires the Federal Government, in conjunction with the
affected State and tribal governments, to make clear the true ownership
of this property.
It tells the BLM to back off, and authorizes a collaborative survey
to be conducted by the affected State and tribal governments, according
to the rule of law established by the Supreme Court. And if this new
survey determines any errors in the old, it provides that the
landowners who have poured their blood, toil, tears, and sweat into
this land can repurchase it for a $1.25 per acre, the price set by the
Color of Title Act to resolve disputes of this nature.
Without this act, title to the farms and homes will be clouded for
decades while this matter drags on through the courts.
Meanwhile, the BLM's assertion that it has regulatory jurisdiction
would have devastating impacts on local landowners and businesses and
make it much more difficult to encourage economic development in the
region.
We should also beware of an amendment sought by several neighboring
tribal governments that attempts to seize this property for themselves.
Despite the fact that this bill is to be amended to reaffirm all tribal
treaties to assure that the tribes are an integral part of the new
survey process, and are guaranteed the right of first refusal over any
lands they currently occupy, they are seeking to replace the injustice
perpetrated by the BLM with an injustice of their own.
Whether private property is seized by the Federal Government or by a
tribal government makes no difference to the innocent victims whose
land is being stolen, and it is an equal affront to the just principles
of property rights that this bill seeks to restore.
Tribal governments whose own sovereignty and property rights are
often threatened by this Federal Government ought to be particularly
sensitive when that same government threatens the rights of others.
Government exists to protect our natural rights, including our
property rights. This bill realigns our government with its stated
purpose.
Ms. TSONGAS. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
H.R. 2130, the Red River Private Property Protection Act, sponsored
by Representative Thornberry of Texas, aims to resolve a series of
property disputes along a 116-mile stretch of the Red River, which
forms a portion of the boundary between Texas and Oklahoma.
While this legislation may seem like an issue with only local or
regional interests, it speaks to broader policy issues on our Nation's
public lands, lands which belong to all Americans.
I am sympathetic to the concerns of Mr. Thornberry and his
constituents. Landowners in the area, some of whom have lived there for
generations, deserve clarification on the amount of land owned by the
Federal Government and the location of the boundary between Texas and
Oklahoma.
However, as written, I am concerned that this legislation undermines
the authority of the Federal Government, and potentially jeopardizes
longstanding mineral revenue distribution agreements with the State of
Oklahoma and certain Native American tribes.
Federal interest in land along the Red River goes back to the
Louisiana Purchase. More than 200 years later, after several treaties
and compacts, there is still confusion about the amount of land owned
by the Federal Government and the location of the boundary between
Texas and Oklahoma.
The majority rightly cites a 1926 Supreme Court case that established
the gradient boundary method as the means of determining the boundary
between the two States, Texas and Oklahoma.
Under this decision, which has been adhered to for nearly a century,
the boundary of Oklahoma extends to the center of the river, and the
Texas boundary extends to the ordinary high water mark on the south
bank. All the land in between was retained in Federal ownership.
The Supreme Court ruling established the boundary between the States,
but it did not change the ownership status of any land, and the Federal
Government has had a continual interest in land along the Red River.
To complicate matters even further, the area has a long history of
oil and gas development and includes several tribal interests.
The Bureau of Land Management, the Federal Government's ``Surveyor of
Record,'' is in the process of updating its management plan for the
area, which includes surveying all of the land in question, in order to
determine the extent of the remaining Federal interest and clarify
ownership claims.
There are many overlapping claims, missing and unreliable records,
and even competing claims from both Texas and Oklahoma over the same
pieces of property, so the BLM is poring through county GIS data to
sort out who owns what and where.
This survey is not a land grab by the Federal Government. It is a
long, but necessary, process that BLM must work through to validate
ownership claims.
In fact, BLM wants to limit Federal interest in the region. But it
has to be allowed to survey the area first.
There are an estimated 30,000 acres of Federal land in the affected
area, 23,000 of which are potentially overlaid by private deeds.
Without the survey, the agency will have no legal way to give a clear
title to land claimed by a private interest or determine what Federal
land is suitable for sale.
Unfortunately, H.R. 2130 halts the survey process, nullifies all
previous BLM surveys, and transfers survey authority to the Texas
General Land Office. The bill also requires the Secretary of the
Interior to forfeit any right, title, and interest to land in the
affected area.
Taking away BLM's survey authority and putting the Texas General Land
Office in control of the survey would effectively make a large portion
of the estimated Federal landholdings disappear. The result is unfair
to American taxpayers, who deserve fair compensation for their assets.
H.R. 2130 could also jeopardize a longstanding agreement between the
Federal Government and the Kiowa, Apache, and Comanche tribes. These
tribes receive 62.5 percent of any royalty generated for oil and gas
development along this section of the Red River. If part of this land
no longer belongs to the Federal Government, this important source of
revenue relied on by the tribes could also vanish.
Yesterday, the Natural Resources Committee received a letter from the
Kiowa-Comanche Intertribal Land Use Committee that outlined serious
concerns with the bill, as introduced. We were unable to hear about
these concerns until now, because we have not had a hearing on this
bill in this Congress.
Representative Cole has offered an amendment to address the concerns
of these tribes. His amendment will ensure that the mineral and surface
interests held by tribes are not diminished by this bill. The Cole
amendment makes significant improvements to the bill, and I am glad the
Rules Committee made it in order.
Adoption of the Cole amendment, however, does not address all of our
concerns or remove our fundamental opposition to the bill.
I want to reiterate, we would all like to see the property dispute
resolved in a way that benefits all parties and provides much-needed
clarification for local landowners and tribes. However, instead of
ceding Federal authority to a State, Congress should allow BLM to
complete its work.
I urge my colleagues to reject H.R. 2130.
Before I reserve my time, I want to note that, as we approach the end
of the year, there are critical issues that
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we have yet to address. Funding the Federal Government, extending tax
breaks and, yes, addressing the scourge of gun violence in this country
are just a few that deserve our urgent attention, instead of debating
this bill, which the President will likely veto.
For example, Representative King's bill, H.R. 1076, the Denying
Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act is a bipartisan and
commonsense bill that would make our communities safer.
Since 2004, for 11 years now, more than 2,000 FBI-identified
suspected terrorists have legally purchased weapons in the United
States. This is an alarming figure.
That is why I am a cosponsor of Republican Congressman Peter King's
bill, which would prevent people who are linked to terrorist activities
from buying a gun, a commonsense bill that has support from both
Republicans and Democrats, and would protect our communities.
It is pretty simple. If the Federal Government doesn't allow you to
board an airplane, it shouldn't allow you to buy a gun.
I have joined my colleagues in filing a discharge petition to force a
vote on this bill after House Republicans have repeatedly voted to
prevent the House from even debating Congressman King's bill.
We should be doing everything we can to keep deadly weapons out of
the hands of suspected terrorists. It is just common sense to allow a
vote on this.
I urge the Republican leadership to allow on vote on this bill.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may
consume.
For people whose homes and lives are being threatened by inaction or
an improper action of the Federal Government, that is a critical issue
to them. This bill is significantly important to people who are being
harmed by the Federal Government.
So this is what happened: In 2009, the Bureau of Land Management,
they did a survey on 6,000 acres, out of a potential of about 90,000
acre piece of property. They used poor surveying methods, methods that
were outlawed by the Supreme Court back in the 1920s because of the
inaccuracy of the method they used.
Four years later, this Bureau then decided, based on the inaccurate
surveying done in an improper way, that they would lay claim to 90,000
acres. They later reduced that number somewhat, even though people
lived on the land they were claiming. Their homes were there. Their
future was there. They had a valid title to that land. They had been
paying taxes on that land for years.
Nonetheless, the government decided it was theirs. The government had
no use for this land. They had no plan. They had no need for it. All it
was was about control.
Even the BLM workers who were on the field that understood, they
didn't want this. It was made up here in the higher levels of people
who want to control. And even though they own a third of the land mass
of the United States, that simply was not enough. They wanted to go
after the homes of these people as well.
If people were in the way of that control, they didn't care. If
property rights were in the way of that control, they didn't care.
We have seen this issue played over and over on this floor recently.
We had a bill the other day in the State of Virginia, where 1 acre, 1
acre of a park that was not being used was needed for a daycare center,
and the Park Service was opposed to it because it took their control
away from that 1 acre of land. Fortunately, we passed that bill on a
voice vote.
There is a school, a middle school in Reno, Nevada, that was stopped
by the BLM because it was going to be put on land that was 12 miles
away from a potential sage grouse lek. That was stopped.
There is a lake in Louisiana where the exact same thing is happening
on 200 acres around that particular lake, a bad survey in which the
Federal Government says, oh, give us time to fix this problem.
The bottom line is, we are seeing, time after time after time, in
which actions by the Federal Government, specifically, the Department
of the Interior, are actually hurting people, and that is wrong. We
must stop that.
We are here in the people's House. It is incumbent upon us, if an
agency of government, an administration, or a bureaucracy does
something to harm people, it is our responsibility to change that, to
challenge it, and to set it right.
If the bureaucracy decides to become heartless thugs and tries to
take away property rights, tries to take away homes, then we, the
Representatives of the people, need to have this time to stand up there
and say, no, it is wrong; we need to do it the right way.
That is exactly what the bill before us does. It says: Stop this
inaccuracy. Stop this offense. Stop hurting people. Redo the survey,
but redo it in a proper way, and put in a source of process where those
who have actual rights on this land can go about and get their rights.
If that undermines the Federal Government, which has had 6 years to
redo the survey, and do it the right way, then it is incumbent upon us.
If they have done something wrong, we need to fix it.
This bill in no way, shape, or form has any negative impact on
anybody's mineral rights. Whether it is the government, tribes, or
individuals, it does not harm them.
But it is our job to make sure we do something. We, in this body, set
the standards and the boundaries of what government should do, not a
faceless bureaucracy. And when that faceless bureaucracy, after a great
deal of time, fails to do their job, that is when we, as a body, need
to stand up and set things right to protect the people whom we
represent.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Ms. TSONGAS. Mr. Chairman, I yield such time as he may consume to the
gentleman from Rhode Island (Mr. Langevin).
(Mr. LANGEVIN asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. LANGEVIN. I thank the gentlewoman for yielding.
Mr. Chairman, I am appalled that Republicans are continuing to ignore
the calls that Mr. Thompson has led to bring up my good friend from New
York, Republican Peter King's bipartisan bill to keep guns out of the
hands of terrorists.
It is remarkable enough that individuals on the terrorist watch list
are able to freely purchase weapons in this country, weapons that could
then be turned against innocent Americans.
In fact, the GAO report showed that over the last 10 years, 90
percent of the people on the terrorist watch list who wanted to buy a
weapon passed a background check. That is simply outrageous.
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But it is extraordinary that, knowing of this truly absurd policy,
Republicans refuse to bring Mr. King of New York's aptly named Denying
Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act.
Mr. Chairman, protecting our Nation from its enemies motivates my
work here in Congress, as it should motivate all of us. That Members on
the other side of the aisle are in such thrall to gun advocates that
they would place their political aspirations above our national
security shocks the conscience. This cannot be.
Mr. Chairman, I hope you will see Mr. King's worthy bill on the floor
without delay
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Chairman, I yield 5 minutes to the gentleman
from Texas (Mr. Thornberry), the sponsor of this bill. He is someone
who has been working for at least 6 long years to try to make sure that
the Federal Government stops its harming of individuals in taking away
their property and their homes.
Mr. THORNBERRY. Mr. Chairman, first, I want to express my
appreciation to Chairman Bishop not only for bringing this bill to the
floor, but for taking the time to understand the issues, how they came
to be, and cutting to the heart of the matter. I thought he did an
outstanding job of explaining the challenges that my constituents face.
Also, Subcommittee Chairman McClintock has done an excellent job of
talking about this bill.
Mr. Chairman, it is absolutely true. This specific legislation
applies only to the 116-mile stretch of the Red River
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that is at issue here; but one point I completely agree with the
gentlewoman from Massachusetts on is that the consequences of this
extend far beyond those 116 miles, because if the Federal Government
can come in and, through a regulatory process, say this land that you
may have a deed to, that you may have paid taxes on for generations,
that you may think you own, is not yours but is really ours, then that
threatens private property rights throughout the country.
I would suggest, Mr. Chairman, that that is the reason the American
Farm Bureau, the Oklahoma Farm Bureau, the Texas Farm Bureau, the
National Cattlemen's Association, and the Public Lands Council all
support this legislation, because private property rights are very
important to be protected wherever they may be threatened.
Now, the bottom line, as Chairman Bishop just mentioned, is that the
BLM conducted some surveys several years ago, spot surveys, and they
refuse to follow the mandates of the Supreme Court in its 1926
decision. The rest of the story is, BLM has indicated they will never
survey the whole 116 miles. So, as the gentlewoman from Massachusetts
points out, well, there is confusion, and this, that, and the other.
The only way to straighten it out is to conduct a survey of the whole
area and do it under the mandate, the way the Supreme Court of the
United States said it should be done. BLM has said they are not going
to do that. The only way to get that done is to support this bill.
Mr. Chairman, I do appreciate the gentlewoman from Massachusetts
accurately described how there got to be this narrow strip of Federal
land from the middle of the river to the south bank. Some people don't
understand that. The gentlewoman described it exactly right. But that
has been the problem for the BLM. They don't know how to manage a
narrow strip of sand down the middle of the river. It has been
suggested to me that that is the reason they are looking to expand what
they own, so it is easier to manage if they can make it grow.
Obviously, as the chairman points out, that takes away people's homes,
property that people have the deeds to and that they have paid taxes on
sometimes for generations.
The other misstatement that has been made is that somehow Texas is
going to control this survey. That is not true. This legislation says
Texas, in conjunction with Oklahoma--and I think the manager's
amendment will say in conjunction with the tribes--will choose a
professional surveyor to do this right. The Congressional Budget Office
says this legislation actually saves the taxpayers money. Certainly, we
have bent over backwards to make sure landowners on both sides of the
river--the tribes, individuals, and local governments--are part of this
process.
I think the bottom line, Mr. Chairman, is the only way to prevent the
BLM from taking this land in a timely way without years of court
battles is to pass this legislation, as written, with the manager's
amendment that Chairman Bishop will offer, requiring there to be a
survey that is done right, and then set up the process so that whatever
that survey reveals can be dealt with in an equitable manner. That is
what the underlying bill does.
Again, I appreciate the chairman's taking the time to understand
this. We don't have a lot of Federal land in and around Texas, but any
time the Federal Government comes in to try to confiscate what people
own and have paid taxes on for generations, it is a threat to us all,
and this legislation, I hope, will be supported.
Ms. TSONGAS. Mr. Chairman, I yield such time as she may consume to
the gentlewoman from New Mexico (Ms. Michelle Lujan Grisham), my
colleague.
Ms. MICHELLE LUJAN GRISHAM of New Mexico. Mr. Chairman, I too believe
that Congress must act quickly to address terrorist threats in order to
keep Americans safe.
Congress promptly acted in a bipartisan manner this week to
strengthen glaring holes in our country's Visa Waiver Program. However,
we have done absolutely nothing to close an equally alarming loophole
which allows suspected terrorists to purchase guns.
Unlike felons, domestic abusers, and the adjudicated mentally ill,
suspected terrorists can legally purchase firearms in the United
States. I think that is worth repeating. Individuals who are suspected
of being involved in terrorist activities by the FBI can legally
purchase dangerous weapons--including military-style assault rifles and
explosives--in this country. In fact, more than 2,000 suspects on the
FBI's terrorist watch list have purchased firearms over the last 11
years.
If our intelligence community is concerned enough about an
individual's suspected ties to terrorism to prohibit them from boarding
an aircraft, why would we allow that person to purchase a firearm?
The American people are urging Congress to address gun violence and
strengthen our Nation's security against increasing threats from ISIS
and other terrorist organizations. This bill provides a rare
opportunity to do both. Unfortunately, the Republican leadership has
refused to even debate this bill.
We cannot, Mr. Chairman, wait to act any longer. I urge my colleagues
to support this legislation and help ensure that every American lives
free from the threat of gun violence.
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Ms. TSONGAS. Mr. Chairman, I yield such time as she may consume to
the gentlewoman from Florida (Ms. Frankel), my colleague.
Ms. FRANKEL of Florida. Mr. Chairman, here is what the terrorists
say: ``America is absolutely awash with easily obtainable firearms. You
can go down to a gun show at the local convention center and come away
with a fully automatic assault rifle, without a background check, and
most likely without having to show an identification card.''
Those words, Mr. Chairman, are from the mouth of former al Qaeda
spokesman Adam Gadahn, who, until his demise, was one of the world's
most wanted terrorists. Mr. Gadahn can be seen on a video urging lone-
wolf attacks on innocent Americans.
After describing how easy it is to buy a firearm in our country, he
ends the video by saying: ``So what are you waiting for?''
So I ask this Congress: What are we waiting for--more attacks like
San Bernardino or Paris? more families destroyed? more innocent lives
wasted? more 30 seconds of silence in this Chamber?
Let's save some lives today. Say ``no'' to the purchase of weapons by
those who would use violence and threats to destroy our way of life.
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Chairman, I have some other speakers who are
on their way, so I will reserve in the hopes that I can hear some other
speeches that care about people who are about to lose their homes by
the actions of this government, that we actually care about those
people.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Ms. TSONGAS. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, I would like to address an issue that has been
addressed in the course of our conversations.
The majority continues to claim that the Federal Government does not
and has never had any legal claim to the land between the river's
median and the south bank, but that claim is inaccurate.
This 116-mile stretch of the river originally came into Federal
ownership under the Louisiana Purchase in 1803. Treaties between 1819
and 1838 established the south bank of the Red River as the southern
border of the United States and the northern border of what is now the
State of Texas. In 1867, the land north of the river became part of the
Kiowa-Comanche-Apache Reservation, with the medial line of the river
denoting the reservation's southern boundary.
All land between the medial line and the southern bank of the Red
River was retained--not acquired--by the Federal Government as public
land. The land between the medial line and the south bank has never
been owned by anyone other than the Federal Government.
The Supreme Court decision in the 1920s never ceded ownership of the
public land to either State but simply adopted a new methodology and
terminology for determining where the southern bank of the Red River,
still the border between Texas and Oklahoma, lies.
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Although litigation in the 1980s, resulting from natural changes in
the river's location, attempted to settle private landowners' acreage
disputes, these agreements had no effect on Federal land ownership.
Likewise, while the Red River Compact changed the boundary between the
States by switching from applying the gradient line measurement to
using the vegetation line, that compact explicitly did not transfer any
title or status of land held in the public domain to Texas, Oklahoma,
or any private landowner. Any claim that any litigation or agreements
over the past 90-plus years have somehow negated Federal ownership of
these 30,000 acres simply is not true.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Chairman, I yield, once again, such time as
he may consume to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Thornberry), the
sponsor of this bill, to explain how this actually did take place and
what the issue is here.
Mr. THORNBERRY. Mr. Chairman, I appreciate that statement by the
gentlewoman from Massachusetts. I do not disagree with anything she
said, and I think I said that a while ago, that there absolutely is a
legitimate Federal claim from the middle of the river to the south
bank. That has been the case ever since 1803. The gentlewoman is
exactly right in laying that out.
The problem is that the Bureau of Land Management has said now the
south bank is as much as a mile to the south of where it is because
they refuse to follow the survey method that the Supreme Court
mandated. They have done these spot surveys the chairman mentioned.
It is not a question about the middle of the river to the south bank.
It is a question of where the south bank is. In some cases, it is a
tremendous difference back, and that is where they confiscate the land.
It is because their new interpretation of the south bank is far, far
away from the river, as I say, as much as a mile. That is the issue.
That is the reason the only way to solve this is to have a professional
survey define the south bank using the criteria set by the Supreme
Court, and then that decides it.
Will there continue to be Federal land between the south bank and the
middle of the river? Absolutely. BLM has said they don't know what they
are going to do with it because it is a narrow strip of sand. But the
key is to define that boundary so we don't take away the livelihood and
the homes of the people who have lived and had deeds on the land far
beyond the south bank. That is what is at issue here.
Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman for yielding.
Ms. TSONGAS. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, just to address an issue that my colleague from Texas
has brought up, the BLM is trying to resolve the very difference that
he suggests and has instituted a survey and would like to continue that
process in order to resolve the very issue that he is raising, but it
is an issue that should be retained by the Federal Government through
the BLM.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Chairman, when you can't do a survey in 6
years, maybe somebody should insist the Federal Government's agencies
do it.
I reserve the balance of my time.
Ms. TSONGAS. Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Chairman, if I could inquire of the
gentlewoman from Massachusetts how many more speeches she has. There is
one person coming down, but I don't know if he will make it. I think,
in light of the time, I am ready to close if she is ready to close.
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Ms. TSONGAS. Mr. Chairman, I am ready to close and yield myself such
time as I may consume.
I want to conclude by acknowledging that I sympathize with the
property owners along the Red River. Providing them with certainty and
assurance that their property rights are not threatened is a goal that
we should all share, and we do.
Unfortunately, this bill will only complicate an already complicated
and messy situation. As introduced, it will likely lead to litigation
from tribes and tribal members who stand to lose both property and
mineral interests.
Furthermore, this bill requires the Secretary of the Interior to
disclaim all right, title, and interest in the affected areas and
transfer survey authority to the State of Texas. It is unclear how the
BLM will be able to work with property owners to clear titles after the
United States has already conceded its authority over the land.
Additionally, transferring the Federal Government survey authority to
Texas is not a workable solution. It is so implausible, in fact, that
the bill has triggered a veto threat from the White House.
If there is really a problem that Congress can solve, providing Texas
landowners with the certainty they desire, we should work together to
come up with legislation that would earn the President's signature.
We should go back to the drawing board. Until that happens, I urge my
colleagues to oppose this bill.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may
consume.
This is one of those situations where this is an issue that has been
festering for 6 years now. If the Bureau of Land Management truly
wanted to solve this issue, if they truly wanted to make amends, if
they truly wanted to give certainty to these people, it could have
happened by now. But up the food chain they have refused to do it.
That is why it is incumbent upon us to do the right thing. We are
talking about people whose property, whose homes, their future, their
livelihoods, are being threatened by a government bureaucracy that
simply says they don't care. They would rather have control than solve
a problem.
The bill before you actually sets out a way of doing the survey in
the right way, the way the Supreme Court said it should be done, doing
it the right way the first time and ensuring that everyone will be part
of the table. It sets out a process to actually solve this problem in a
minimum amount of time. This is the right thing to do. We should go
forward with that.
I appreciate those who have spoken on this particular issue because
there are people whose lives are being threatened right now because of
the uncertainty about what their property rights are and where they
will not be, and that is wrong. That is simply wrong.
What has happened to these people is wrong. If we allow it to go
forward by our inability of trying to make decisions here, we are
wrong, too. It is time to quit hurting people and do things that
actually help them.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. POE of Texas. Mr. Chair, first off, I would like to thank
Congressman Thornberry for leading this effort in the House.
It is no surprise that the Bureau of Land Management under this
Administration has become greedy.
But their blatant disregard of the law and private property rights is
shameful.
One would think the federal government would be satisfied with the
653 million acres of land it currently controls and owns, which is over
27 percent of the total U.S. surface area.
A lot of which goes unused, but apparently that is not enough.
If anything the federal government should being selling land instead
of trying to claim more.
The Bureau of Land Management's actions are a cloud on the title of
Texas ranches.
Since the 1845 annexation of Texas into the United States, the
federal government has owned very little to no property in Texas.
The Red River Private Property Protection Act, if signed into law
would settle these absurd claims and clearly define the borders.
It is important that we support and protect Oklahoma and Texas
landowners from this Administration's ridiculous attempt at another
land grab.
The CHAIR. All time for general debate has expired.
Pursuant to the rule, the bill shall be considered for amendment
under the 5-minute rule.
It shall be in order to consider as an original bill for the purpose
of amendment under the 5-minute rule the amendment in the nature of a
substitute recommended by the Committee on Natural Resources printed in
the bill. The committee amendment in the nature of a substitute shall
be considered as read.
The text of the committee amendment in the nature of a substitute is
as follows:
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H.R. 2130
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of
the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the ``Red River Private Property
Protection Act''.
SEC. 2. DISCLAIMER AND OUTDATED SURVEYS.
(a) In General.--The Secretary disclaims any right, title,
and interest to the land located south of the South Bank
boundary line in the affected area.
(b) Clarification of Prior Surveys.--Surveys conducted by
the Bureau of Land Management before the date of the
enactment of this Act shall have no force or effect in
determining the South Bank boundary line.
SEC. 3. SURVEY OF SOUTH BANK BOUNDARY LINE.
(a) Survey Required.--To identify the South Bank boundary
line in the affected area, the Secretary shall commission a
survey. The survey shall--
(1) adhere to the gradient boundary survey method;
(2) span the entire length of the affected area;
(3) be conducted by Licensed State Land Surveyors chosen by
the Texas General Land Office, in consultation with the
Oklahoma Commissioners of the Land Office;
(4) be completed not later than 2 years after the date of
the enactment of this Act; and
(5) not be submitted to the Bureau of Land Management for
approval.
(b) Approval of the Survey.--After the survey is completed,
the Secretary shall submit the survey to be approved by the
Texas General Land Office, in consultation with the Oklahoma
Commissioners of the Land Office.
(c) Surveys of Individual Parcels.--
(1) In general.--Parcels surveyed as required by this
section shall be surveyed and approved on an individual basis
by the Texas General Land Office, in consultation with the
Oklahoma Commissioners of the Land Office.
(2) Surveys of individual parcels not submitted to the
bureau of land management.--Surveys of individual parcels
shall not be submitted to the Bureau of Land Management for
approval.
(d) Notice.--
(1) Notification to the secretary.--Not later than 30 days
after a survey for a parcel is approved by the Texas General
Land Office under subsection (c), such office shall provide
to the Secretary the following:
(A) Notice of the approval of such survey.
(B) A copy of such survey and field notes relating to such
parcel.
(2) Notification to adjacent landowners.--Not later than 30
days after the date on which the Secretary receives
notification relating to a parcel under paragraph (1), the
Secretary shall provide to landowners adjacent to such parcel
the following:
(A) Notice of the approval of such survey.
(B) A copy of such survey and field notes relating to such
parcel.
(C) Notice that the landowner may file an appeal under
section 4.
(D) Notice that the landowner may apply for a patent under
section 5.
(E) Any additional information considered appropriate by
the Secretary.
SEC. 4. APPEAL.
Not later than 1 year after the date on which a landowner
receives notification under section 3(d)(2), a landowner who
claims to hold right, title, or interest in the affected area
may appeal the determination of the survey to an
administrative law judge of the Department of the Interior.
SEC. 5. RED RIVER SURFACE RIGHTS.
(a) Notification of Application Period for Patents.--
(1) In general.--On the date that is 18 months after the
date on which the Secretary receives notification relating to
a parcel under section 3(d)(1), the Secretary shall determine
whether such parcel is subject to appeal.
(2) Parcel not subject to appeal.--Not later than 30 days
after the date on which the Secretary determines a parcel is
not subject to appeal, the Secretary shall--
(A) notify landowners adjacent to such parcel that the
Secretary shall accept applications for patents for that
parcel under subsection (b) for a period of 210 days; and
(B) begin accepting applications for patents for that
parcel under subsection (b) for a period of 210 days.
(3) Parcel subject to appeal.--If the Secretary determines
a parcel is subject to appeal, the Secretary shall, not less
than once every 6 months, check the status of the appeals
relating to such parcel, until the Secretary determines such
parcel is not subject to appeal.
(b) Patents for Lands in the Affected Area.--If the
Secretary receives an application for a patent for a parcel
of identified Federal lands during the period for
applications for such parcel under subsection (a)(2)(B) and
determines that the parcel has been held in good faith and in
peaceful adverse possession by an applicant, or the ancestors
or grantors of such applicant, for more than 20 years under
claim (including through a State land grant or deed or color
of title), the Secretary may issue a patent for the surface
rights to such parcel to the applicant, on the payment of
$1.25 per acre, if the patent includes the following
conditions:
(1) All minerals contained in the parcel are reserved to
the United States and subject to sale or disposal by the
United States under applicable leasing and mineral land laws.
(2) Permittees, lessees, or grantees of the United States
have the right to enter the parcel for the purpose of
prospecting for and mining deposits.
(c) Pending Requests for Patents.--The Secretary shall not
offer a parcel of identified Federal land for purchase under
section 6 if a patent request for that parcel is pending
under this section.
SEC. 6. RIGHT OF REFUSAL AND COMPETITIVE SALE.
(a) Right of Refusal.--
(1) Offers to purchase.--After the expiration of the period
for applications under section 5(a)(2)(B), the Secretary
shall offer for purchase for a period of 60 days for each
right of refusal--
(A) the surface rights to the remaining identified Federal
lands located north of the vegetation line of the South Bank
to--
(i) the adjacent owner of land located in Oklahoma to the
north with the first right of refusal;
(ii) if applicable, the adjacent owner of land located in
Texas to the south with the second right of refusal;
(iii) if applicable, the adjacent owner of land located to
the east with the third right of refusal; and
(iv) if applicable, the adjacent owner of land located to
the west with the fourth right of refusal; and
(B) the surface rights to the remaining identified Federal
lands located south of the vegetation line of the South Bank
to--
(i) the adjacent owner of land located in Texas to the
south with the first right of refusal;
(ii) if applicable, the adjacent owner of land located in
Oklahoma to the north with the second right of refusal;
(iii) if applicable, the adjacent owner of land located to
the east with the third right of refusal; and
(iv) if applicable, the adjacent owner of land located to
the west with the fourth right of refusal.
(2) Remaining identified federal lands defined.--In this
subsection, the term ``remaining identified Federal lands''
means any parcel of identified Federal lands--
(A) not subject to appeal under section 4;
(B) not determined by an administrative law judge of the
Department of the Interior or a Federal court to be the
property of an adjacent landowner; and
(C) not patented or subject to a pending request for a
patent under section 5.
(b) Disposal by Competitive Sale.--If a parcel offered
under subsection (a) is not purchased, the Secretary shall
offer the parcel for disposal by competitive sale for not
less than fair market value as determined by an appraisal
conducted in accordance with nationally recognized appraisal
standards, including the Uniform Appraisal Standards for
Federal Land Acquisitions and the Uniform Standards of
Professional Appraisal Practice.
(c) Conditions of Sale.--The sale of a parcel under this
section shall be subject to--
(1) the condition that all minerals contained in the parcel
are reserved to the United States and subject to sale or
disposal by the United States under applicable leasing and
mineral land laws;
(2) the condition that permittees, lessees, or grantees of
the United States have the right to enter the parcel for the
purpose of prospecting for and mining deposits; and
(3) valid existing State, tribal, and local rights.
(d) Report.--Not later than 5 years after the date on which
the survey is approved, the Secretary shall submit to the
Committee on Natural Resources of the House of
Representatives and the Committee on Energy and Natural
Resources of the Senate a list of the parcels of identified
Federal lands that have not been sold under subsection (b)
and a description of the reasons such parcels were not sold.
SEC. 7. RESOURCE MANAGEMENT PLAN.
The Secretary may not treat a parcel of identified Federal
lands as Federal land for the purposes of a resource
management plan if the treatment of such parcel does not
comply with the provisions of this Act.
SEC. 8. CONSTRUCTION.
(a) Lands Located North of the South Bank Boundary Line.--
Nothing in this Act shall be construed to modify the interest
of Texas or Oklahoma or sovereignty rights of any federally
recognized Indian tribe over lands located to the north of
the South Bank boundary line as established by the survey.
(b) Patents Under the Color of Title Act.--Nothing in this
Act shall be construed to modify land patented under the Act
of December 22, 1928 (Public Law 70-645; 45 Stat. 1069; 43
U.S.C. 1068; commonly known as the Color of Title Act),
before the date of the enactment of this Act.
(c) Red River Boundary Compact.--Nothing in this Act shall
be construed to modify the Red River Boundary Compact as
enacted by the States of Texas and Oklahoma and consented to
by the United States Congress by Public Law 106-288 (114
Stat. 919).
SEC. 9. DEFINITIONS.
In this Act:
(1) Affected area.--The term ``affected area'' means lands
along the approximately 116-mile stretch of the Red River
from its confluence with the North Fork of the Red River on
the west to the 98th meridian on the east between the States
of Texas and Oklahoma.
(2) Gradient boundary survey method.--The term ``gradient
boundary survey method'' means the measurement technique used
to locate the South Bank boundary line under the methodology
established in Oklahoma v. Texas, 261 U.S. 340 (1923)
(recognizing that the boundary line between the States of
Texas and Oklahoma along the Red River is subject to change
due to erosion and accretion).
(3) Identified federal lands.--The term ``identified
Federal lands'' means the lands in the affected area from the
South Bank boundary line north to the medial line of the Red
River as identified pursuant to this Act.
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(4) Secretary.--The term ``Secretary'' means the Secretary
of the Interior, acting through the Director of the Bureau of
Land Management.
(5) South bank.--The term ``South Bank'' means the water-
washed and relatively permanent elevation or acclivity,
commonly called a cut bank, along the southerly or right side
of the Red River which separates its bed from the adjacent
upland, whether valley or hill, and usually serves to confine
the waters within the bed and to preserve the course of the
river (as specified in the fifth paragraph of Oklahoma v.
Texas, 261 U.S. 340 (1923)).
(6) South bank boundary line.--The term ``South Bank
boundary line'' means the boundary between Texas and Oklahoma
identified through the gradient boundary survey method (as
specified in the sixth and seventh paragraphs of Oklahoma v.
Texas, 261 U.S. 340 (1923)).
(7) Survey.--The term ``survey'' means the survey required
by section 3(a).
(8) Vegetation line.--The term ``vegetation line'' means
the visually identifiable continuous line of vegetation that
is adjacent to the portion of the riverbed kept practically
bare of vegetation by the natural flow of the river and is
continuous with the vegetation beyond the riverbed.
The CHAIR. No amendment to the committee amendment in the nature of a
substitute shall be in order except those printed in House Report 114-
375. Each such amendment may be offered only in the order printed in
the report, by a Member designated in the report, shall be considered
read, shall be debatable for the time specified in the report equally
divided and controlled by the proponent and an opponent, shall not be
subject to amendment, and shall not be subject to a demand for division
of the question.
Amendment No. 1 Offered by Mr. Bishop of Utah
The CHAIR. It is now in order to consider amendment No. 1 printed in
House Report 114-375.
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Chairman, I have an amendment made in order
under the rule.
The CHAIR. The Clerk will designate the amendment.
The text of the amendment is as follows:
Page 5, line 12, insert ``and seek further judicial
review'' after ``appeal''.
Page 5, line 18, strike ``Not'' and insert the following:
(a) Appeal to Administrative Law Judge.--Not
Page 5, after line 23, insert the following:
(b) Further Judicial Review.--
(1) In general.--A landowner who filed an appeal under
subsection (a) and is adversely affected by the final
decision may, not later than 120 days after the date of the
final decision, file a civil action in the United States
district court for the district----
(A) in which the person resides; or
(B) in which the affected area is located.
(2) Standard of review.--The district court may review the
case de novo and may enter a judgment enforcing, modifying,
and enforcing as so modified, or setting aside in whole or in
part, the decision of the administrative law judge.
Page 6, line 8, insert ``or further judicial review'' after
``appeal''.
Page 6, line 9, insert ``or judicial review'' after
``appeal''.
Page 6, line 11, insert ``or judicial review'' after
``appeal''.
Page 6, line 20, insert ``or judicial review'' after
``appeal''.
Page 6, line 21, insert ``or further judicial review''
after ``appeal''.
Page 6, line 23, insert ``or judicial reviews'' after
``appeals''.
Page 6, line 25, insert ``or further judicial review''
after ``appeal''.
Page 9, line 14, insert ``or further judicial review''
after ``appeal''.
Page 11, after line 20, insert the following:
(d) Tribal Reservations.--Nothing in this Act shall be
construed to create or reinstate a tribal reservation or any
portion of a tribal reservation.
(e) Tribal Mineral Interests.--Nothing in this Act shall be
construed to alter the valid rights of the Kiowa, Comanche,
and Apache Nations to the mineral interest trust fund created
pursuant to the Act of June 12, 1926.
Insert ``and each affected federally recognized Indian
tribe'' after ``Oklahoma Commissioners of the Land Office''
each place it appears.
The CHAIR. Pursuant to House Resolution 556, the gentleman from Utah
(Mr. Bishop) and a Member opposed each will control 5 minutes.
The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Utah.
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Chairman, today I rise in strong support of a
brilliantly written manager's amendment to H.R. 2130.
In short, this bill, introduced by my friend, the chairman of the
Armed Services Committee, Mr. Thornberry of Texas, prevents the Federal
Government from claiming thousands of acres of private land legally
owned by American citizens and tribes along the 116-mile stretch of the
Red River between Texas and Oklahoma.
My manager's amendment will do the following: It will ensure that
nothing in this bill will create or reinstate a tribal reservation. It
ensures that nothing in this bill alters the valid existing mineral
rights of the Kiowa, Comanche, and Apache Nations. It allows affected
federally recognized Indian tribes to be part of the survey process in
addition to the States of Oklahoma and Texas. It allows landowners
access to judicial review beyond the Bureau of Land Management's
administrative appeals process.
This manager's amendment reflects concerns that have been brought to
us by Chairman Thornberry, by Congressman Cole of Oklahoma, by Oklahoma
Governor Fallin, by private landowners, and by the other stakeholders
who have an interest in this particular area.
I strongly urge my colleagues to vote in favor of the manager's
amendment.
I yield back the balance of my time.
The CHAIR. The question is on the amendment offered by the gentleman
from Utah (Mr. Bishop).
The amendment was agreed to.
Amendment No. 2 Offered by Mr. Cole
The CHAIR. It is now in order to consider amendment No. 2 printed in
House Report 114-375.
Mr. COLE. Mr. Chairman, I have an amendment at the desk.
The CHAIR. The Clerk will designate the amendment.
The text of the amendment is as follows:
Page 6, line 13, strike ``landowners'' and insert
``federally recognized Indian tribes with jurisdiction over
lands''.
Page 7, lines 8 and 9, strike ``or deed or color of
title''.
Page 7, line 11, strike ``$1.25'' and insert ``fair market
value''.
Page 8, after line 7, insert the following (and redesignate
the subsequent clauses accordingly):
(i) the federally recognized Indian tribes holding
reservation or allotment land on June 5, 1906, with the first
right of refusal;
Page 8, line 9, strike ``first'' and insert ``second''.
Page 8, line 13, strike ``second'' and insert ``third''.
Page 8, line 15, strike ``third'' and insert ``fourth''.
Page 8, line 18, strike ``fourth'' and insert ``fifth''
Page 8, after line 22, insert the following (and
redesignate the subsequent clauses accordingly):
(i) the federally recognized Indian tribes holding
reservation or allotment land on June 5, 1906, with the first
right of refusal;
Page 8, line 24, strike ``first'' and insert ``second''.
Page 9, line 3, strike ``second'' and insert ``third''.
Page 9, line 5, strike ``third'' and insert ``fourth''.
Page 9, line 8, strike ``fourth'' and insert ``fifth''
Page 11, after line 20, insert the following:
(d) Tribal Allotments.--Nothing in this Act shall be
construed to alter the present median line of the Red River
as it relates to the surface or mineral interests of tribal
allottees north of the present median line.
The CHAIR. Pursuant to House Resolution 556, the gentleman from
Oklahoma (Mr. Cole) and a Member opposed each will control 5 minutes.
The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Oklahoma.
Mr. COLE. Mr. Chairman, I would like to start by noting how much I
respect the sincerity and good intentions of my friends from Texas and
their desire to settle this issue of landownership along the Red River.
I want to particularly thank Chairman Thornberry and Chairman Bishop,
who have been extremely cooperative and helpful in trying to resolve
some of these thorny issues.
I do, however, still have serious concerns about the unintended
consequences that the suggested message for resolving this issue will
most certainly have on Indian tribes in my district, specifically the
Kiowa, Comanche, and Apache. All three tribes oppose the bill and
support this amendment.
This bill gives Texas and Oklahoma the power to conduct a survey, the
goal of which is to ascertain the exact location of the portion of the
Red River currently owned by the Bureau of Land Management.
The BLM land would be sold off in a three-step process. The first
step provides for adverse possessors to apply for a patent to the BLM
land. The second is a sale based on a right-of-first-refusal structure.
The third provides for any remaining BLM land to be sold via a
competitive sale process. The goal is to remove the Federal control
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that the BLM has over a 116-mile stretch of the river and, by the CBO's
estimate, of roughly 30,000 acres.
My amendment seeks to accomplish the following:
Ensure that tribes receive fair notice of their right to appeal any
survey conducted pursuant to this legislation.
Ensure taxpayers receive full compensation instead of $1.25 per acre,
as proposed, for any Federal land. This would also discourage
fraudulent patent applications to BLM land that would hinder the
process of disposal.
Ensure tribes will be provided with rights of first refusal to
purchase BLM land.
And, finally, explicitly ensure that a survey and/or subsequent
purchase does not result in any diminishment or alteration of tribal
surface or mineral interests.
Mr. Chairman, the first portion of this amendment is an easy fix.
Providing tribal landowners with notice of their right to appeal a
survey determination is a fundamental notion of due process. Tribes
have been left out of such notice requirements in the bill, as
currently drafted.
The second portion of my amendment will help minimize the likelihood
the projected litigation will commence. Litigation does nothing but
unduly delay the opportunity for tribes to buy back their land at a
fair market price. The $1.25 an acre price the current bill proposes is
not the best deal for taxpayers, and Congress should vote to get the
best value for BLM land.
To avoid this result, my amendment raises the standard patent
applicants must meet for their applications to be approved.
The amendment also alters the right of first refusal structure for
landowners to purchase BLM land by competitive sale. Indian tribes that
formerly held reservation land in this part of Oklahoma, like the
Kiowa, Comanche, and Apache, now have the right of first refusal for
any competitive sale of BLM land that takes place pursuant to this
legislation.
Finally, my amendment would disallow the survey from moving the
medial line of the river north to affect the surface or mineral
interests of tribal allottees north of the river in Oklahoma.
I simply cannot support a bill that would negatively impact tribal
landowners in Oklahoma whose interests in surface, oil, gas, minerals,
and water are critical to economic stability and funding for tribal
government programs.
Mr. Chairman, this bill would begin a process of give-and-take in
redetermining landownership between Texans, Oklahomans, and Indian
tribes. Congress should remain mindful of its trust responsibilities
and tread carefully when it comes to what could very well be construed
as a taking of the Constitution.
Those in support of the bill will likely argue that tribes stand to
benefit from re-surveying the river, citing that allotments bordering
the river will actually expand in certain areas. That is a big gamble
to take.
The fact is that neither Texans, Oklahomans, nor tribal members have
any indication of whether they stand to gain or lose as a result of the
survey method to be used. As a result, they have everything to lose
should this bill become law without the amendment.
I urge the support of the Cole amendment to H.R. 2130.
I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the
amendment.
The CHAIR. The gentleman from Utah is recognized for 5 minutes.
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Chairman, I have a great deal of respect for
Congressman Cole and his efforts. I want to also offer that, as this
bill continues to be processed, I will be more than happy to work on
these and other issues, as we have in the past on certain issues that
are in the manager's amendment.
But I have to oppose this particular amendment. It does certain
things that are problematic.
First, the amendment alters the bill's rights of first refusal
procedure to give precedence to some above others, whether or not they
have a reasonable claim to the land or hold an adjacent allotment. That
is the key point right there: is the claim and the allotment adjacent.
The bill, as is already written, already gives the right of first
refusal to those landowners who are there as long as they own the
adjacent land parcel. That should not be changed.
Secondly, the medial line is an important issue in allocating where
the location of the river actually is. If you are going to solve the
problem unequivocally to demonstrate the true ownership of the land,
this has to be solved. Otherwise, the clouded title to private lands
will continue on, as they have been by BLM's action so far.
The Supreme Court has made it very clear that the medial is supposed
to change as the movements of the river change. BLM's recent survey
ignored the movement of the river, which is causing the very issue that
we are facing today.
This amendment would put it back into the failed process. This
amendment then runs contrary to what the Supreme Court's decision said
is the fair surveying practices that ought to have been done 6 years
ago by the BLM in the first place.
Congressman Thornberry has worked extensively with Congressman Cole
to address some of the concerns--many of the concerns--that are there.
I would point out just a few that have been added.
We are preventing the alternation of sovereign right States under the
Red River Boundary Compact. We are ensuring the State of Oklahoma and
affected tribes are involved in picking surveyors and approving the
survey.
We are preventing the creation or reinstatement of the tribal
reservation. We are ensuring that the bill does not impact the valid
rights of the affected tribes to the mineral interest fund created in
1926.
Overall, the bill, as written and amended with the manager's
amendment, proposes a fair solution to the issue at hand, incorporates
the ideas and views of those interested in a wide range of the
stakeholders.
I urge my colleagues to vote against this amendment.
I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. COLE. Mr. Chairman, I want to begin by acknowledging what my
friend said. I appreciate Mr. Thornberry and him working with us. This
is a long and complex issue.
I will just say, we don't see the 1923 Supreme Court decision is
where it started. We think it goes back to an earlier period where the
tribes did not ever agree to give up their reservation land. They want
an opportunity to be able to repurchase what they think was taken from
them, if it should become available on the market.
I thank my friends again for working with me and look forward to
continuing that process.
I yield back the balance of my time.
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Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Chairman, may I inquire as to how much time I
actually have?
The CHAIR. The gentleman has 2\1/2\ minutes remaining.
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2\1/2\ minutes to the
gentleman from Texas (Mr. Thornberry).
Mr. THORNBERRY. I appreciate the chairman's yielding to me.
I also appreciate the considerable efforts that have gone on not just
in the past few weeks and months but all the way back to the last
Congress with Congressman Cole, with the Governor's Office of Oklahoma,
and with the tribes directly to try to make sure that any concern was
addressed.
Mr. Chairman, let me just say one overall point. Actually, the
gentlewoman from Massachusetts made this really clear, which is that in
going back to at least 1867 there is no tribal claim that goes south of
the median line of the river. As a result, really, the only interests
that could be threatened are that narrow strip of sand that the Federal
Government does have a rightful claim on or its expansion beyond its
rightful claim.
There should be no question of any tribal surface or mineral interest
that is impinged by this legislation because they only ever went to the
middle of the river. What we are talking about is the south bank of the
river, which is what the BLM is now claiming.
I want to address the $1.25 issue because the bill requires that any
land sold to an adjacent landowner or to anybody else be sold at
current market value. The only exception is if, for a period of at
least 20 years, you have
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owned the land, if you have a deed to the land, if you have paid taxes
on the land, or if the Federal Government has never made a claim on the
land for at least 20 years. In that instance, then you can under color
of title procedure purchase the land for $1.25 an acre if the Bureau of
Land Management agrees. It is at their discretion.
The idea is, if this survey happens to find some acreage--and I am
not sure it will--that somebody has owned, has a deed to, has paid
taxes on, has lived on, or if nobody else has claimed the title to it,
then they don't have to buy it twice because they already bought it
once. That is the purpose of this. In every other case, you have to pay
the full market value for any land.
The last point is that Congressman Cole is very interested in making
sure that the tribes are fully participating and know this about the
survey, et cetera. I agree. I think the manager's amendment that
Chairman Bishop has just offered ensures that the tribes participate in
the survey from the beginning. Of course, they have the right to appeal
just like any other landowner would.
Mr. Chairman, I think this is the answer to a problem that needs our
intervention because it is wrong to leave these people hanging for
another 6 or 10 years without a complete survey that answers the
question.
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my
time.
The CHAIR. The question is on the amendment offered by the gentleman
from Oklahoma (Mr. Cole).
The question was taken; and the Chair announced that the noes
appeared to have it.
Recorded Vote
Mr. COLE. Mr. Chairman, I demand a recorded vote.
A recorded vote was ordered.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 246,
noes 183, not voting 4, as follows:
[Roll No. 684]
AYES--246
Adams
Amash
Ashford
Bass
Beatty
Becerra
Bera
Beyer
Bilirakis
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (MI)
Black
Blum
Blumenauer
Bonamici
Boyle, Brendan F.
Brady (PA)
Bridenstine
Brown (FL)
Brownley (CA)
Bucshon
Bustos
Butterfield
Calvert
Capps
Capuano
Cardenas
Carney
Carson (IN)
Cartwright
Castor (FL)
Castro (TX)
Chu, Judy
Cicilline
Clark (MA)
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Cohen
Cole
Collins (NY)
Comstock
Connolly
Conyers
Cooper
Costa
Costello (PA)
Courtney
Cramer
Cummings
Curbelo (FL)
Davis (CA)
DeFazio
DeGette
Delaney
DeLauro
DelBene
Dent
DeSaulnier
Deutch
Diaz-Balart
Dingell
Doggett
Dold
Doyle, Michael F.
Duckworth
Duncan (TN)
Edwards
Ellison
Engel
Eshoo
Esty
Farr
Fattah
Fitzpatrick
Fleischmann
Fortenberry
Foster
Frankel (FL)
Frelinghuysen
Fudge
Gabbard
Gallego
Garamendi
Graham
Grayson
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Guinta
Gutierrez
Hahn
Hanna
Harris
Hastings
Heck (WA)
Higgins
Himes
Hinojosa
Holding
Honda
Hoyer
Huelskamp
Huffman
Israel
Issa
Jackson Lee
Jeffries
Jenkins (KS)
Jenkins (WV)
Johnson, E. B.
Jolly
Jones
Kaptur
Katko
Keating
Kelly (IL)
Kennedy
Kildee
Kilmer
Kind
Kirkpatrick
Kline
Kuster
Lance
Langevin
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Lawrence
Lee
Levin
Lewis
Lieu, Ted
Lipinski
Loebsack
Lofgren
Lowenthal
Lowey
Lucas
Lujan Grisham (NM)
Lujan, Ben Ray (NM)
Lynch
Maloney, Carolyn
Maloney, Sean
Massie
Matsui
McCollum
McDermott
McGovern
McNerney
McSally
Meehan
Meeks
Meng
Messer
Mica
Miller (MI)
Moolenaar
Moore
Moulton
Mullin
Murphy (FL)
Murphy (PA)
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal
Noem
Nolan
Norcross
O'Rourke
Pallone
Pascrell
Payne
Pelosi
Perlmutter
Peters
Peterson
Pingree
Pocan
Polis
Posey
Price (NC)
Quigley
Rangel
Rice (NY)
Richmond
Rigell
Rogers (KY)
Rooney (FL)
Rouzer
Roybal-Allard
Ruiz
Ruppersberger
Rush
Russell
Ryan (OH)
Sanchez, Linda T.
Sarbanes
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schrader
Schweikert
Scott (VA)
Scott, David
Serrano
Sewell (AL)
Sherman
Simpson
Sinema
Sires
Slaughter
Smith (NJ)
Smith (WA)
Speier
Stivers
Swalwell (CA)
Takai
Takano
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Tiberi
Titus
Tonko
Torres
Tsongas
Turner
Upton
Van Hollen
Vargas
Veasey
Velazquez
Visclosky
Walberg
Walz
Wasserman Schultz
Waters, Maxine
Watson Coleman
Webster (FL)
Welch
Wilson (FL)
Yarmuth
Yoder
Yoho
Young (AK)
Young (IA)
Zinke
NOES--183
Abraham
Aderholt
Allen
Amodei
Babin
Barletta
Barr
Barton
Benishek
Bishop (UT)
Blackburn
Bost
Boustany
Brady (TX)
Brat
Brooks (AL)
Brooks (IN)
Buchanan
Buck
Burgess
Byrne
Carter (GA)
Carter (TX)
Chabot
Chaffetz
Clarke (NY)
Clawson (FL)
Coffman
Collins (GA)
Conaway
Cook
Crawford
Crenshaw
Crowley
Cuellar
Culberson
Davis, Rodney
Denham
DeSantis
DesJarlais
Donovan
Duffy
Duncan (SC)
Ellmers (NC)
Emmer (MN)
Farenthold
Fincher
Fleming
Flores
Forbes
Foxx
Franks (AZ)
Garrett
Gibbs
Gibson
Gohmert
Goodlatte
Gosar
Gowdy
Granger
Graves (GA)
Graves (LA)
Graves (MO)
Griffith
Grothman
Guthrie
Hardy
Harper
Hartzler
Heck (NV)
Hensarling
Herrera Beutler
Hice, Jody B.
Hill
Hudson
Huizenga (MI)
Hultgren
Hunter
Hurd (TX)
Hurt (VA)
Johnson (GA)
Johnson (OH)
Jordan
Joyce
Kelly (MS)
Kelly (PA)
King (IA)
King (NY)
Kinzinger (IL)
Knight
Labrador
LaHood
LaMalfa
Lamborn
Latta
LoBiondo
Long
Loudermilk
Love
Luetkemeyer
Lummis
MacArthur
Marchant
Marino
McCarthy
McCaul
McClintock
McHenry
McKinley
McMorris Rodgers
Meadows
Miller (FL)
Mooney (WV)
Mulvaney
Neugebauer
Newhouse
Nugent
Nunes
Olson
Palazzo
Palmer
Paulsen
Pearce
Perry
Pittenger
Pitts
Poe (TX)
Poliquin
Pompeo
Price, Tom
Ratcliffe
Reed
Reichert
Renacci
Ribble
Rice (SC)
Roby
Roe (TN)
Rogers (AL)
Rohrabacher
Rokita
Ros-Lehtinen
Roskam
Ross
Rothfus
Royce
Salmon
Sanford
Scalise
Scott, Austin
Sensenbrenner
Sessions
Shimkus
Shuster
Smith (MO)
Smith (NE)
Smith (TX)
Stefanik
Stewart
Stutzman
Thompson (PA)
Thornberry
Tipton
Trott
Valadao
Vela
Wagner
Walden
Walker
Walorski
Walters, Mimi
Weber (TX)
Wenstrup
Westerman
Westmoreland
Whitfield
Williams
Wilson (SC)
Wittman
Womack
Woodall
Young (IN)
Zeldin
NOT VOTING--4
Aguilar
Davis, Danny
Johnson, Sam
Sanchez, Loretta
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Messrs. SHUSTER, McCARTHY, PRICE of Georgia, BOST, Mses. ROS-
LEHTINEN, FOXX, Messrs. LaMALFA, FLORES, MEADOWS, MILLER of Florida,
GOSAR, COFFMAN, GRAVES of Louisiana, MARCHANT, CRAWFORD, FINCHER,
McHENRY, WALDEN, MULVANEY, WOODALL, GUTHRIE, DUFFY, YOUNG of Indiana,
HECK of Nevada, Ms. CLARKE of New York, Messrs. LUETKEMEYER, DUNCAN of
South Carolina, SALMON, Mrs. LUMMIS, Messrs. PERRY, SMITH of Nebraska,
TROTT, SENSENBRENNER, WILSON of South Carolina, Ms. HERRERA BEUTLER,
Messrs. CARTER of Georgia, RODNEY DAVIS of Illinois, SMITH of Missouri,
Mrs. BLACKBURN, Messrs. BARTON, ROKITA, and ROSKAM changed their vote
from ``aye'' to ``no.''
Mses. HAHN, SPEIER, Mr. CICILLINE, Ms. WASSERMAN SCHULTZ, Messrs.
VARGAS, FATTAH, BUTTERFIELD, HINOJOSA, TURNER, Mrs. CAROLYN B. MALONEY
of New York, Messrs. YODER, GUINTA, CURBELO of Florida, STIVERS,
FORTENBERRY, DAVID SCOTT of Georgia, ENGEL, and KATKO changed their
vote from ``no'' to ``aye.''
So the amendment was agreed to.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
The Acting CHAIR (Mr. Stewart). The question is on the committee
amendment in the nature of a substitute, as amended.
The amendment was agreed to.
The Acting CHAIR. Under the rule, the Committee rises.
Accordingly, the Committee rose; and the Speaker pro tempore (Mr.
Womack) having assumed the chair, Mr. Stewart, Acting Chair of the
Committee of the Whole House on the state of the Union, reported that
that Committee, having had under consideration the bill (H.R. 2130) to
provide legal certainty to property owners along the Red River in
Texas, and for other purposes, and, pursuant to House Resolution 556,
he reported the bill back to the House with an amendment adopted in the
Committee of the Whole.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under the rule, the previous question is
ordered.
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Is a separate vote demanded on any amendment to the amendment
reported from the Committee of the Whole?
If not, the question is on the committee amendment in the nature of a
substitute, as amended.
The amendment was agreed to.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the engrossment and third
reading of the bill.
The bill was ordered to be engrossed and read a third time, and was
read the third time.
Motion to Recommit
Mr. THOMPSON of California. Mr. Speaker, I have a motion to recommit
at the desk.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is the gentleman opposed to the bill?
Mr. THOMPSON of California. I am in its current form.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Clerk will report the motion to
recommit.
The Clerk read as follows:
Mr. Thompson of California moves to recommit the bill H.R.
2130 to the Committee on Natural Resources with instructions
to report the same back to the House forthwith, with the
following amendment:
After section 8, add the following (and redesignate the
subsequent section accordingly):
SEC. 9. GRANTING THE ATTORNEY GENERAL THE AUTHORITY TO DENY
THE SALE, DELIVERY, OR TRANSFER OF A FIREARM OR
THE ISSUANCE OF A FIREARMS OR EXPLOSIVES
LICENSE OR PERMIT TO DANGEROUS TERRORISTS.
(a) Standard for Exercising Attorney General Discretion
Regarding Transferring Firearms or Issuing Firearms Permits
to Dangerous Terrorists.--Chapter 44 of title 18, United
States Code, is amended--
(1) by inserting the following new section after section
922:
``Sec. 922A. Attorney General's discretion to deny transfer
of a firearm
``The Attorney General may deny the transfer of a firearm
pursuant to section 922(t)(1)(B)(ii) if the Attorney General
determines that the transferee is known (or appropriately
suspected) to be or have been engaged in conduct
constituting, in preparation for, in aid of, or related to
terrorism, or providing material support thereof, and the
Attorney General has a reasonable belief that the prospective
transferee may use a firearm in connection with terrorism.'';
(2) by inserting the following new section after section
922A:
``Sec. 922B. Attorney General's discretion regarding
applicants for firearm permits which would qualify for the
exemption provided under section 922(t)(3)
``The Attorney General may determine that an applicant for
a firearm permit which would qualify for an exemption under
section 922(t)(3) is known (or appropriately suspected) to be
or have been engaged in conduct constituting, in preparation
for, in aid of, or related to terrorism, or providing
material support thereof, and the Attorney General has a
reasonable belief that the applicant may use a firearm in
connection with terrorism.''; and
(3) in section 921(a), by adding at the end the following:
``(36) The term `terrorism' means `international terrorism'
as defined in section 2331(1), and `domestic terrorism' as
defined in section 2331(5).
``(37) The term `material support' means `material support
or resources' within the meaning of section 2339A or 2339B.
``(38) The term `responsible person' means an individual
who has the power, directly or indirectly, to direct or cause
the direction of the management and policies of the applicant
or licensee pertaining to firearms.''.
(b) Effect of Attorney General Discretionary Denial Through
the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS)
on Firearms Permits.--Section 922(t) of such title is
amended--
(1) in paragraph (1)(B)(ii), by inserting ``or State law,
or that the Attorney General has determined to deny the
transfer of a firearm pursuant to section 922A'' before the
semicolon;
(2) in paragraph (2), by inserting after ``or State law''
the following: ``or if the Attorney General has not
determined to deny the transfer of a firearm pursuant to
section 922A'';
(3) in paragraph (3)(A)(i)--
(A) by striking ``and'' at the end of subclause (I); and
(B) by adding at the end the following:
``(III) was issued after a check of the system established
pursuant to paragraph (1);'';
(4) in paragraph (3)(A)--
(A) by adding ``and'' at the end of clause (ii); and
(B) by adding after and below the end the following:
``(iii) the State issuing the permit agrees to deny the
permit application if such other person is the subject of a
determination by the Attorney General pursuant to section
922B;'';
(5) in paragraph (4), by inserting after ``or State law,''
the following: ``or if the Attorney General has not
determined to deny the transfer of a firearm pursuant to
section 922A,''; and
(6) in paragraph (5), by inserting after ``or State law,''
the following: ``or if the Attorney General has determined to
deny the transfer of a firearm pursuant to section 922A,''.
(c) Unlawful Sale or Disposition of Firearm Based on
Attorney General Discretionary Denial.--Section 922(d) of
such title is amended--
(1) by striking ``or'' at the end of paragraph (8);
(2) by striking the period at the end of paragraph (9) and
inserting ``; or''; and
(3) by inserting after paragraph (9) the following:
``(10) has been the subject of a determination by the
Attorney General pursuant to section 922A, 922B,
923(d)(1)(H), or 923(e) of this title.''.
(d) Attorney General Discretionary Denial as Prohibitor.--
Section 922(g) of such title is amended--
(1) by striking ``or'' at the end of paragraph (8);
(2) by striking the comma at the end of paragraph (9) and
inserting; ``; or''; and
(3) by inserting after paragraph (9) the following:
``(10) who has received actual notice of the Attorney
General's determination made pursuant to section 922A, 922B,
923(d)(1)(H), or 923(e) of this title,''.
(e) Attorney General Discretionary Denial of Federal
Firearms Licenses.--Section 923(d)(1) of such title is
amended--
(1) by striking ``Any'' and inserting ``Except as provided
in subparagraph (H), any'';
(2) in subparagraph (F)(iii), by striking ``and'' at the
end;
(3) in subparagraph (G), by striking the period and
inserting ``; and''; and
(4) by adding at the end the following:
``(H) The Attorney General may deny a license application
if the Attorney General determines that the applicant
(including any responsible person) is known (or appropriately
suspected) to be or have been engaged in conduct
constituting, in preparation for, in aid of, or related to
terrorism, or providing material support thereof, and the
Attorney General has a reasonable belief that the applicant
may use a firearm in connection with terrorism.''.
(f) Discretionary Revocation of Federal Firearms
Licenses.--Section 923(e) of such title is amended--
(1) in the 1st sentence--
(A) by inserting after ``revoke'' the following: ``--(1)'';
and
(B) by striking the period and inserting a semicolon;
(2) in the 2nd sentence--
(A) by striking ``The Attorney General may, after notice
and opportunity for hearing, revoke'' and insert ``(2)''; and
(B) by striking the period and inserting ``; or''; and
(3) by adding at the end the following:
``(3) any license issued under this section if the Attorney
General determines that the holder of the license (including
any responsible person) is known (or appropriately suspected)
to be or have been engaged in conduct constituting, in
preparation for, in aid of, or related to terrorism, or
providing material support thereof, and the Attorney General
has a reasonable belief that the applicant may use a firearm
in connection with terrorism.''.
(g) Attorney General's Ability To Withhold Information in
Firearms License Denial and Revocation Suit.--Section 923(f)
of such title is amended--
(1) in the 1st sentence of paragraph (1), by inserting ``,
except that if the denial or revocation is pursuant to
subsection (d)(1)(H) or (e)(3), then any information on which
the Attorney General relied for this determination may be
withheld from the petitioner if the Attorney General
determines that disclosure of the information would likely
compromise national security'' before the period; and
(2) in paragraph (3), by inserting after the 3rd sentence
the following: ``With respect to any information withheld
from the aggrieved party under paragraph (1), the United
States may submit, and the court may rely on, summaries or
redacted versions of documents containing information the
disclosure of which the Attorney General has determined would
likely compromise national security.''.
(h) Attorney General's Ability To Withhold Information in
Relief From Disabilities Lawsuits.--Section 925(c) of such
title is amended by inserting after the 3rd sentence the
following: ``If receipt of a firearm by the person would
violate section 922(g)(10), any information which the
Attorney General relied on for this determination may be
withheld from the applicant if the Attorney General
determines that disclosure of the information would likely
compromise national security. In responding to the petition,
the United States may submit, and the court may rely on,
summaries or redacted versions of documents containing
information the disclosure of which the Attorney General has
determined would likely compromise national security.''.
(i) Penalties.--Section 924(k) of such title is amended--
(1) by striking ``or'' at the end of paragraph (2);
(2) in paragraph (3), by striking ``, or'' and inserting
``; or''; and
(3) by inserting after paragraph (3) the following:
``(4) constitutes an act of terrorism (as defined in
section 921(a)(36)), or material support thereof (as defined
in section 921(a)(37)); or''.
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(j) Remedy for Erroneous Denial of Firearm or Firearm
Permit Exemption.--Section 925A of such title is amended--
(1) in the section heading, by striking ``Remedy for
erroneous denial of firearm'' and inserting ``Remedies'';
(2) by striking ``Any person denied a firearm pursuant to
subsection (s) or (t) of section 922'' and inserting the
following:
``(a) Except as provided in subsection (b), any person
denied a firearm pursuant to section 922(t) or pursuant to a
determination made under section 922B,''; and
(3) by adding after and below the end the following:
``(b) In any case in which the Attorney General has denied
the transfer of a firearm to a prospective transferee
pursuant to section 922A or has made a determination
regarding a firearm permit applicant pursuant to section
922B, an action challenging the determination may be brought
against the United States. The petition must be filed not
later than 60 days after the petitioner has received actual
notice of the Attorney General's determination made pursuant
to section 922A or 922B. The court shall sustain the Attorney
General's determination on a showing by the United States by
a preponderance of evidence that the Attorney General's
determination satisfied the requirements of section 922A or
922B. To make this showing, the United States may submit, and
the court may rely on, summaries or redacted versions of
documents containing information the disclosure of which the
Attorney General has determined would likely compromise
national security. On request of the petitioner or the
court's own motion, the court may review the full,
undisclosed documents ex parte and in camera. The court shall
determine whether the summaries or redacted versions, as the
case may be, are fair and accurate representations of the
underlying documents. The court shall not consider the full,
undisclosed documents in deciding whether the Attorney
General's determination satisfies the requirements of section
922A or 922B.''.
(k) Provision of Grounds Underlying Ineligibility
Determination by the National Instant Criminal Background
Check System.--Section 103 of the Brady Handgun Violence
Prevention Act (Public Law 103-159) is amended--
(1) in subsection (f)--
(A) by inserting after ``is ineligible to receive a
firearm,'' the following: ``or the Attorney General has made
a determination regarding an applicant for a firearm permit
pursuant to section 922B of title 18, United States Code'';
and
(B) by inserting after ``the system shall provide such
reasons to the individual,'' the following: ``except for any
information the disclosure of which the Attorney General has
determined would likely compromise national security''; and
(2) in subsection (g)--
(A) in the 1st sentence, by inserting after ``subsection
(g) or (n) of section 922 of title 18, United States Code or
State law'' the following: ``or if the Attorney General has
made a determination pursuant to section 922A or 922B of such
title,'';
(B) by inserting ``, except any information the disclosure
of which the Attorney General has determined would likely
compromise national security'' before the period; and
(C) by adding at the end the following: ``Any petition for
review of information withheld by the Attorney General under
this subsection shall be made in accordance with section 925A
of title 18, United States Code.''.
(l) Unlawful Distribution of Explosives Based on Attorney
General Discretionary Denial.--Section 842(d) of such title
is amended--
(1) by striking the period at the end of paragraph (9) and
inserting ``; or''; and
(2) by adding at the end the following:
``(10) has received actual notice of the Attorney General's
determination made pursuant to section 843(b)(8) or (d)(2) of
this title.''.
(m) Attorney General Discretionary Denial as Prohibitor.--
Section 842(i) of such title is amended--
(1) by adding ``; or'' at the end of paragraph (7); and
(2) by inserting after paragraph (7) the following:
``(8) who has received actual notice of the Attorney
General's determination made pursuant to section 843(b)(8) or
(d)(2),''.
(n) Attorney General Discretionary Denial of Federal
Explosives Licenses and Permits.--Section 843(b) of such
title is amended--
(1) by striking ``Upon'' and inserting the following:
``Except as provided in paragraph (8), on''; and
(2) by inserting after paragraph (7) the following:
``(8) The Attorney General may deny the issuance of a
permit or license to an applicant if the Attorney General
determines that the applicant or a responsible person or
employee possessor thereof is known (or appropriately
suspected) to be or have been engaged in conduct
constituting, in preparation of, in aid of, or related to
terrorism, or providing material support thereof, and the
Attorney General has a reasonable belief that the person may
use explosives in connection with terrorism.''.
(o) Attorney General Discretionary Revocation of Federal
Explosives Licenses and Permits.--Section 843(d) of such
title is amended--
(1) by inserting ``(1)'' in the first sentence after
``if''; and
(2) by striking the period at the end of the first sentence
and inserting the following: ``; or (2) the Attorney General
determines that the licensee or holder (or any responsible
person or employee possessor thereof) is known (or
appropriately suspected) to be or have been engaged in
conduct constituting, in preparation for, in aid of, or
related to terrorism, or providing material support thereof,
and that the Attorney General has a reasonable belief that
the person may use explosives in connection with
terrorism.''.
(p) Attorney General's Ability To Withhold Information in
Explosives License and Permit Denial and Revocation Suits.--
Section 843(e) of such title is amended--
(1) in the 1st sentence of paragraph (1), by inserting
``except that if the denial or revocation is based on a
determination under subsection (b)(8) or (d)(2), then any
information which the Attorney General relied on for the
determination may be withheld from the petitioner if the
Attorney General determines that disclosure of the
information would likely compromise national security''
before the period; and
(2) in paragraph (2), by adding at the end the following:
``In responding to any petition for review of a denial or
revocation based on a determination under section 843(b)(8)
or (d)(2), the United States may submit, and the court may
rely on, summaries or redacted versions of documents
containing information the disclosure of which the Attorney
General has determined would likely compromise national
security.''.
(q) Ability To Withhold Information in Communications to
Employers.--Section 843(h)(2) of such title is amended--
(1) in subparagraph (A), by inserting ``or section
843(b)(1) (on grounds of terrorism) of this title,'' after
``section 842(i),''; and
(2) in subparagraph (B)--
(A) by inserting ``or section 843(b)(8)'' after ``section
842(i)''; and
(B) in clause (ii), by inserting ``, except that any
information that the Attorney General relied on for a
determination pursuant to section 843(b)(8) may be withheld
if the Attorney General concludes that disclosure of the
information would likely compromise national security''
before the semicolon.
(r) Conforming Amendment to Immigration and Nationality
Act.--Section 101(a)(43)(E)(ii) of the Immigration and
Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(43)(E)(ii)) is amended by
striking ``or (5)'' and inserting ``(5), or (10)''.
Mr. THOMPSON of California (during the reading). Mr. Speaker, I ask
unanimous consent to dispense with the reading.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the
gentleman from California?
There was no objection.
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Speaker, I reserve a point of order against
the motion.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. A point of order is reserved.
The gentleman from California is recognized for 5 minutes.
Mr. THOMPSON of California. Mr. Speaker, this is the final amendment
to the bill, which will not kill the bill nor send it back to
committee. If adopted, the bill will immediately proceed to final
passage, as amended.
My motion to recommit would incorporate H.R. 1076, a Republican bill
titled the Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act
of 2015, into the underlying bill.
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The bill is straightforward. It says if you are on the FBI's
terrorist watch list, then you don't get to walk into a gun store, pass
a background check, and leave with a weapon of your choice. It is an
outrageous loophole. And we know it allows dangerous people to easily
get guns.
Since 2004, more than 2,000 suspected terrorists have legally
purchased weapons in the United States. And more than 90 percent of all
suspected terrorists who tried to purchase guns in the last 11 years
walked away with the weapons they wanted. If there is one thing both
sides of this House can agree on, it is keeping guns from terrorists.
I know my colleagues on the other side have expressed some concerns.
So let's address them.
You are worried that there are names on the list that shouldn't be
there. This is a legitimate concern. So let's scrub the list.
You are worried that it is difficult to get off the list if you are
wrongly put on it. This bill has an appeals process.
You are concerned about denying people their Second Amendment rights.
Well, I am a gun guy. I own guns. I support the Second Amendment. If
this bill did anything to violate those rights, my name wouldn't be on
it.
We are not talking about prohibiting law-abiding, non-dangerous
people from getting guns. We are just talking about taking a pause.
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I think we can all agree that it is better to err on the side of
caution and let people get their names taken off the list, rather than
just sell them a gun and hope they are not a terrorist.
So let's scrub the list and make it accurate. Let's make sure the
appeals process is functional and efficient. And if someone is on the
terrorist list and is denied from buying a gun, let's pump the brakes
and make sure they are, in fact, not a terrorist before that sale is
allowed to proceed.
Everyone on my side of the aisle stands ready to address your
concerns. Will your side do the same? Will you address our concern
about terrorists being able to have legal and easy access to guns?
We have a chance to take a simple, straightforward step to keep
spouses, kids, and communities safe. We can take this vote today. I
have filed a discharge petition on the bill. We just need a simple
majority to sign it. You can do it right now.
If House Republicans agree that terrorists shouldn't be able to get
guns, then walk down to the well, sign your name on the line, and let's
have a vote.
It is your own party's bill. It was supported by George W. Bush's
Department of Justice. All it does is prevent suspected terrorists from
getting guns--in the exact same way we prevent criminals, domestic
abusers, and the dangerously mentally ill from getting guns.
We will work with you to address your concerns. Do the same for us.
Work with our side to keep guns from suspected terrorists.
This is an issue we can all come together on. 2,000 suspected
terrorists buying guns is 2,000 too many. So let's stop it. Let's take
a stand. Put your name down in writing and let's take a vote.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Speaker, I claim the time in opposition, and
I continue to reserve a point of order.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. A point of order is reserved.
The gentleman is recognized for 5 minutes.
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Speaker, despite the fact that our
colleagues, Mr. McClintock and Don Young, were put on this watch list--
actually, for Don Young maybe it fits.
Point of Order
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. I am going to insist on my point of order.
This motion to recommit involves subject matter that is different
from the bill. The fundamental purpose of the motion is unrelated to
the bill.
I insist on my point of order.
Mr. THOMPSON of California. Mr. Speaker, I would like to be heard on
the point of order.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from California may be heard
on the point of order.
Mr. THOMPSON of California. Mr. Speaker, I appeal the ruling of the
Chair.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from California should
understand that the Chair has not ruled on the point of order.
The Chair will now rule.
The gentleman from Utah makes a point of order that the instructions
proposed in the motion to recommit offered by the gentleman from
California involve a subject matter different from the bill.
Clause 7 of rule XVI, the germaneness rule, provides that no
proposition on a subject different from that under consideration shall
be admitted under color of amendment.
The bill addresses the boundary line between Texas and Oklahoma drawn
by the Red River. Though the bill touches on a number of aspects of
property management, it does so only with respect to a narrow
geographic area.
The amendment proposed in the motion to recommit makes a variety of
changes to title 18 of the United States Code relating to the sale,
possession, licensing, and distribution of firearms and explosives. It
has no bearing on the land addressed in the underlying bill.
The Chair finds that the amendment proposed in the motion to recommit
goes beyond the subject matter of the underlying bill. It is,
therefore, not germane. The point of order is sustained.
Mr. THOMPSON of California. Mr. Speaker, I appeal the ruling of the
Chair.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is, Shall the decision of the
Chair stand as the judgment of the House?
Motion to Table
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Speaker, I move to lay the appeal on the
table.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the motion to table.
The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that
the noes appeared to have it.
Mr. THOMPSON of California. Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas
and nays.
The yeas and nays were ordered.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to clause 8 and clause 9 of rule
XX, this 15-minute vote on the motion to table will be followed by 5-
minute votes on passage of the bill, if arising without further
proceedings in recommittal, and agreeing to the Speaker's approval of
the Journal, if ordered.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 246,
nays 182, not voting 5, as follows:
[Roll No. 685]
YEAS--246
Abraham
Aderholt
Allen
Amash
Amodei
Babin
Barletta
Barr
Barton
Benishek
Bilirakis
Bishop (MI)
Bishop (UT)
Black
Blackburn
Blum
Bost
Boustany
Brady (TX)
Brat
Bridenstine
Brooks (AL)
Brooks (IN)
Buchanan
Buck
Bucshon
Burgess
Byrne
Calvert
Carter (GA)
Carter (TX)
Chabot
Chaffetz
Clawson (FL)
Coffman
Cole
Collins (GA)
Collins (NY)
Comstock
Conaway
Cook
Costello (PA)
Cramer
Crawford
Crenshaw
Culberson
Curbelo (FL)
Davis, Rodney
DeFazio
Denham
Dent
DeSantis
DesJarlais
Diaz-Balart
Dold
Donovan
Duffy
Duncan (SC)
Duncan (TN)
Ellmers (NC)
Emmer (MN)
Farenthold
Fincher
Fitzpatrick
Fleischmann
Fleming
Flores
Forbes
Fortenberry
Foxx
Franks (AZ)
Frelinghuysen
Garrett
Gibbs
Gibson
Gohmert
Goodlatte
Gosar
Gowdy
Granger
Graves (GA)
Graves (LA)
Graves (MO)
Griffith
Grothman
Guinta
Guthrie
Hanna
Hardy
Harper
Harris
Hartzler
Heck (NV)
Hensarling
Herrera Beutler
Hice, Jody B.
Hill
Holding
Hudson
Huelskamp
Huizenga (MI)
Hultgren
Hunter
Hurd (TX)
Hurt (VA)
Issa
Jenkins (KS)
Jenkins (WV)
Johnson (OH)
Jolly
Jones
Jordan
Joyce
Katko
Kelly (MS)
Kelly (PA)
King (IA)
King (NY)
Kinzinger (IL)
Kline
Knight
Labrador
LaHood
LaMalfa
Lamborn
Lance
Latta
LoBiondo
Long
Loudermilk
Love
Lucas
Luetkemeyer
Lummis
MacArthur
Marchant
Marino
Massie
McCarthy
McCaul
McClintock
McHenry
McKinley
McMorris Rodgers
McSally
Meadows
Meehan
Messer
Mica
Miller (FL)
Miller (MI)
Moolenaar
Mooney (WV)
Mullin
Mulvaney
Murphy (PA)
Neugebauer
Newhouse
Noem
Nugent
Nunes
Olson
Palazzo
Palmer
Paulsen
Pearce
Perry
Peterson
Pittenger
Pitts
Poe (TX)
Poliquin
Pompeo
Posey
Price, Tom
Ratcliffe
Reed
Reichert
Renacci
Ribble
Rice (SC)
Rigell
Roby
Roe (TN)
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rohrabacher
Rokita
Rooney (FL)
Ros-Lehtinen
Roskam
Ross
Rothfus
Rouzer
Royce
Russell
Salmon
Sanford
Scalise
Schweikert
Scott, Austin
Sensenbrenner
Sessions
Shimkus
Shuster
Simpson
Smith (MO)
Smith (NE)
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Stefanik
Stewart
Stivers
Stutzman
Thompson (PA)
Thornberry
Tiberi
Tipton
Trott
Turner
Upton
Valadao
Wagner
Walberg
Walden
Walker
Walorski
Walters, Mimi
Weber (TX)
Webster (FL)
Wenstrup
Westerman
Westmoreland
Whitfield
Williams
Wilson (SC)
Wittman
Womack
Woodall
Yoder
Yoho
Young (AK)
Young (IA)
Young (IN)
Zeldin
Zinke
NAYS--182
Adams
Ashford
Bass
Beatty
Becerra
Bera
Beyer
Bishop (GA)
Blumenauer
Bonamici
Boyle, Brendan F.
Brady (PA)
Brown (FL)
Brownley (CA)
Bustos
Butterfield
Capps
Capuano
Cardenas
Carney
Carson (IN)
Cartwright
Castor (FL)
Castro (TX)
Chu, Judy
Cicilline
Clark (MA)
Clarke (NY)
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Cohen
Connolly
Conyers
Cooper
Costa
Courtney
Crowley
Cuellar
Cummings
Davis (CA)
DeGette
Delaney
DeLauro
DelBene
DeSaulnier
Deutch
Dingell
Doggett
Doyle, Michael F.
Duckworth
Edwards
Ellison
Engel
Eshoo
Esty
Farr
Fattah
Foster
Frankel (FL)
Fudge
Gabbard
Gallego
Garamendi
Graham
Grayson
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Gutierrez
Hahn
Hastings
Heck (WA)
Higgins
Himes
Hinojosa
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Honda
Hoyer
Huffman
Israel
Jackson Lee
Jeffries
Johnson (GA)
Johnson, E. B.
Kaptur
Keating
Kelly (IL)
Kennedy
Kildee
Kilmer
Kind
Kirkpatrick
Kuster
Langevin
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Lawrence
Lee
Levin
Lewis
Lieu, Ted
Lipinski
Loebsack
Lofgren
Lowenthal
Lowey
Lujan Grisham (NM)
Lujan, Ben Ray (NM)
Lynch
Maloney, Carolyn
Maloney, Sean
Matsui
McCollum
McDermott
McGovern
McNerney
Meeks
Meng
Moore
Moulton
Murphy (FL)
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal
Norcross
O'Rourke
Pallone
Pascrell
Payne
Pelosi
Perlmutter
Peters
Pingree
Pocan
Polis
Price (NC)
Quigley
Rangel
Rice (NY)
Richmond
Roybal-Allard
Ruiz
Ruppersberger
Rush
Ryan (OH)
Sanchez, Linda T.
Sarbanes
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schrader
Scott (VA)
Scott, David
Serrano
Sewell (AL)
Sherman
Sinema
Sires
Slaughter
Smith (WA)
Speier
Swalwell (CA)
Takai
Takano
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Titus
Tonko
Torres
Tsongas
Van Hollen
Vargas
Veasey
Vela
Velazquez
Visclosky
Walz
Wasserman Schultz
Waters, Maxine
Watson Coleman
Welch
Wilson (FL)
Yarmuth
NOT VOTING--5
Aguilar
Davis, Danny
Johnson, Sam
Nolan
Sanchez, Loretta
{time} 1706
So the motion to table was agreed to.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.
(By unanimous consent, Mr. McCarthy was allowed to speak out of
order.)
Legislative Program
Mr. McCARTHY. Mr. Speaker, I want to remind Members that there will
be votes in the House on Friday, which I expect to end by early
afternoon.
Having said that, I want to advise the Members that votes are no
longer expected in the House this weekend. However, Members should
continue to keep their schedules flexible for possible votes in the
House on Monday, and I will let Members know more details about that
for next week as soon as possible.
Mr. HOYER. Will the gentleman yield?
Mr. McCARTHY. I yield to the gentleman from Maryland.
Mr. HOYER. I thank the gentleman for yielding.
On Monday, would your expectation be that, if there were votes, no
votes would occur prior to 6:30?
Mr. McCARTHY. Yes. There will be no votes before 6:30, and I will let
the gentleman know prior to departing on Friday whether we are in on
Monday.
Parliamentary Inquiries
Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, I have a parliamentary inquiry.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman will state his parliamentary
inquiry.
Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, some of us on the Rules Committee voted to
bring up a bill that would prevent terrorists from buying guns, but
Republicans on the committee blocked that attempt.
Democrats have tried to close this loophole by defeating the previous
question, and Republicans have blocked those attempts.
Can the Speaker tell me how we can get an up-or-down vote on this
bill that prevents terrorists from buying guns?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair will not entertain a parliamentary
inquiry that does not relate, in a practical sense, to the present
proceedings.
Ms. KELLY of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, parliamentary inquiry.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentlewoman will state her parliamentary
inquiry.
Ms. KELLY of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, am I correct that insisting on
the point of order prevents the House from voting on the gentleman from
California's motion to recommit?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentlewoman has not stated a proper
parliamentary inquiry.
Ms. McCOLLUM. Mr. Speaker, I have a parliamentary inquiry.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentlewoman will state her parliamentary
inquiry.
Ms. McCOLLUM. Mr. Speaker, am I correct that the gentleman from
California's motion to recommit would close the loophole that currently
allows terrorists who are on the no-fly list to buy guns?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentlewoman has not stated a proper
parliamentary inquiry.
Ms. LINDA T. SANCHEZ of California. Mr. Speaker, further
parliamentary inquiry.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentlewoman will state her parliamentary
inquiry.
Ms. LINDA T. SANCHEZ of California. Mr. Speaker, is it true that the
Republicans have repeatedly blocked legislation that would explicitly
prevent terrorists from buying guns?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentlewoman will suspend.
Ms. LINDA T. SANCHEZ of California. Mr. Speaker, why can we not get
an answer to this question?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentlewoman has not stated a proper
parliamentary inquiry.
The Chair is prepared to put the question on passage to a vote of the
House.
The question is on the passage of the bill.
The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that
the ayes appeared to have it.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Are there any Members wishing to seek a
recorded vote or the yeas and nays?
Ms. TSONGAS. Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.
The yeas and nays were ordered.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to clause 8 of rule XX, this 15-
minute vote on passage will be followed by a 5-minute vote on agreeing
to the Speaker's approval of the Journal, if ordered.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 253,
nays 177, not voting 3, as follows:
[Roll No. 686]
YEAS--253
Abraham
Aderholt
Allen
Amodei
Ashford
Babin
Barletta
Barr
Barton
Benishek
Bilirakis
Bishop (MI)
Bishop (UT)
Black
Blackburn
Blum
Bost
Boustany
Brady (TX)
Brat
Bridenstine
Brooks (AL)
Brooks (IN)
Brown (FL)
Buchanan
Buck
Bucshon
Burgess
Byrne
Calvert
Carter (GA)
Carter (TX)
Castro (TX)
Chabot
Chaffetz
Clawson (FL)
Coffman
Cole
Collins (GA)
Collins (NY)
Comstock
Conaway
Cook
Costello (PA)
Cramer
Crawford
Crenshaw
Cuellar
Culberson
Curbelo (FL)
Davis, Rodney
Denham
Dent
DeSantis
DesJarlais
Diaz-Balart
Doggett
Dold
Donovan
Duffy
Duncan (SC)
Duncan (TN)
Ellmers (NC)
Emmer (MN)
Farenthold
Fincher
Fitzpatrick
Fleischmann
Fleming
Flores
Forbes
Fortenberry
Foxx
Franks (AZ)
Frelinghuysen
Garrett
Gibbs
Gibson
Gohmert
Gosar
Gowdy
Granger
Graves (GA)
Graves (LA)
Graves (MO)
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grothman
Guinta
Guthrie
Hanna
Hardy
Harper
Harris
Hartzler
Heck (NV)
Hensarling
Hice, Jody B.
Hill
Holding
Hudson
Huelskamp
Huizenga (MI)
Hultgren
Hunter
Hurd (TX)
Hurt (VA)
Issa
Jackson Lee
Jenkins (KS)
Jenkins (WV)
Johnson (OH)
Johnson, E. B.
Jolly
Jones
Jordan
Joyce
Katko
Kelly (MS)
Kelly (PA)
King (IA)
King (NY)
Kinzinger (IL)
Kline
Knight
Labrador
LaHood
LaMalfa
Lamborn
Lance
Latta
LoBiondo
Long
Loudermilk
Love
Lucas
Luetkemeyer
Lummis
MacArthur
Marchant
Marino
Massie
McCarthy
McCaul
McClintock
McHenry
McKinley
McMorris Rodgers
McSally
Meadows
Meehan
Messer
Mica
Miller (FL)
Miller (MI)
Moolenaar
Mooney (WV)
Mullin
Mulvaney
Murphy (PA)
Neugebauer
Newhouse
Noem
Nugent
Nunes
Olson
Palazzo
Palmer
Paulsen
Pearce
Perry
Peterson
Pittenger
Pitts
Poe (TX)
Poliquin
Pompeo
Posey
Price, Tom
Ratcliffe
Reed
Reichert
Renacci
Ribble
Rice (SC)
Rigell
Roby
Roe (TN)
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rohrabacher
Rokita
Rooney (FL)
Ros-Lehtinen
Roskam
Ross
Rothfus
Rouzer
Royce
Russell
Salmon
Sanford
Scalise
Schweikert
Scott, Austin
Sensenbrenner
Sessions
Shimkus
Shuster
Simpson
Smith (MO)
Smith (NE)
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Stefanik
Stewart
Stivers
Stutzman
Thompson (PA)
Thornberry
Tiberi
Tipton
Trott
Turner
Upton
Valadao
Veasey
Vela
Wagner
Walberg
Walden
Walker
Walorski
Walters, Mimi
Weber (TX)
Webster (FL)
Welch
Wenstrup
Westerman
Westmoreland
Whitfield
Williams
Wilson (SC)
Wittman
Womack
Woodall
Yoder
Yoho
Young (AK)
Young (IA)
Young (IN)
Zeldin
Zinke
NAYS--177
Adams
Amash
Bass
Beatty
Becerra
Bera
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Beyer
Bishop (GA)
Blumenauer
Bonamici
Boyle, Brendan F.
Brady (PA)
Brownley (CA)
Bustos
Butterfield
Capps
Capuano
Cardenas
Carney
Carson (IN)
Cartwright
Castor (FL)
Chu, Judy
Cicilline
Clark (MA)
Clarke (NY)
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Cohen
Connolly
Conyers
Cooper
Costa
Courtney
Crowley
Cummings
Davis (CA)
Davis, Danny
DeFazio
DeGette
Delaney
DeLauro
DelBene
DeSaulnier
Deutch
Dingell
Doyle, Michael F.
Duckworth
Edwards
Ellison
Engel
Eshoo
Esty
Farr
Fattah
Foster
Frankel (FL)
Fudge
Gabbard
Gallego
Garamendi
Goodlatte
Graham
Grayson
Griffith
Grijalva
Gutierrez
Hahn
Hastings
Heck (WA)
Herrera Beutler
Higgins
Himes
Hinojosa
Honda
Hoyer
Huffman
Israel
Jeffries
Johnson (GA)
Kaptur
Keating
Kelly (IL)
Kennedy
Kildee
Kilmer
Kind
Kirkpatrick
Kuster
Langevin
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Lawrence
Lee
Levin
Lewis
Lieu, Ted
Lipinski
Loebsack
Lofgren
Lowenthal
Lowey
Lujan Grisham (NM)
Lujan, Ben Ray (NM)
Lynch
Maloney, Carolyn
Maloney, Sean
Matsui
McCollum
McDermott
McGovern
McNerney
Meeks
Meng
Moore
Moulton
Murphy (FL)
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal
Nolan
Norcross
O'Rourke
Pallone
Pascrell
Payne
Pelosi
Perlmutter
Peters
Pingree
Pocan
Polis
Price (NC)
Quigley
Rangel
Rice (NY)
Richmond
Roybal-Allard
Ruiz
Ruppersberger
Rush
Ryan (OH)
Sanchez, Linda T.
Sarbanes
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schrader
Scott (VA)
Scott, David
Serrano
Sewell (AL)
Sherman
Sinema
Sires
Slaughter
Smith (WA)
Speier
Swalwell (CA)
Takai
Takano
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Titus
Tonko
Torres
Tsongas
Van Hollen
Vargas
Velazquez
Visclosky
Walz
Wasserman Schultz
Waters, Maxine
Watson Coleman
Wilson (FL)
Yarmuth
NOT VOTING--3
Aguilar
Johnson, Sam
Sanchez, Loretta
{time} 1731
Mr. WELCH changed his vote from ``nay'' to ``yea.''
So the bill was passed.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.
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