[Congressional Record Volume 161, Number 177 (Tuesday, December 8, 2015)]
[Senate]
[Pages S8447-S8457]
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STUDENT SUCCESS ACT--CONFERENCE REPORT
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Under the previous order, the Senate will
resume consideration of the conference report to accompany S. 1177,
which the clerk will report.
The senior assistant legislative clerk read as follows:
Conference report to accompany S. 1177, a bill to
reauthorize the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of
1965 to ensure that every child achieves.
Mr. REID. Is the time divided equally on quorums?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. There is no order for division of time.
Mr. REID. I ask unanimous consent that during all quorum calls this
morning, the time be equally divided between the two sides.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. REID. I suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
The senior assistant legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. DURBIN. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for
the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. DURBIN. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent to speak as in
morning business.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Religious Freedom
Mr. DURBIN. Mr. President, the Founding Fathers took great care when
it came to the issue of religion in our Constitution. Many of the
people who had come to the United States and became its earliest White
settlers came for religious freedom. They had witnessed discrimination.
They had witnessed government religion. They had witnessed the type of
conduct which not only offended their conscience but motivated them to
come to this great Nation. So when the Founding Fathers sat down to
craft our Constitution, they made three hard-and-fast rules when it
came to religion in this United States of America. The first was our
freedom to believe as we choose or not to believe, a personal freedom
when it came to religion embodied in the civil rights. The second was
prohibition against any Government of the United States establishing a
state or government religion. Third, the prohibition of any litmus test
before anyone could run for public office when it came to religion.
For over 200 years now, those fundamental principles have guided the
United States and have kept us away from some of the terrible conflicts
which have occurred in other nations across history when it came to the
clash of religious belief. It is hard to imagine that in this 21st
century, more than 200 years after the Constitution was written, that
in the midst of this Presidential campaign, we would once again be
reflecting on religion in America, but we are.
Statements that were made over the last several months, and
especially a statement made yesterday by a Republican candidate for
President, have called into question again the policy and values of the
United States when it comes to the practice of religion. Mr. Donald
Trump, Republican candidate for President, has proposed excluding
people of the Muslim religion from the United States. He said we need
to do that until our government figures out what to do with terrorism.
Mr. Trump's statements have been condemned, roundly condemned by most
of the other Republican Presidential nominees, as well as former Vice
President Richard Cheney. It is an indication that he has gone too far.
I hope it is an indication that we in America will reaffirm fundamental
values, when it comes to religious beliefs, that have guided this
Nation for more than two centuries. I might add, this is just the
latest chapter in this story.
Refugees
Mr. President, it was only a few weeks ago when there was a conscious
effort promoted by the Republican Presidential candidates to exclude
Syrian refugees from the United States. They called it a pause. They
said we needed to assess whether or not we ought to change our system
for refugees coming to this country, and, in so doing, they required
the certification by the heads of our national security agencies of
each individual refugee before they could come to the United States.
Each year, the United States allows about 70,000 refugees to come to
our shores from all across the world. They come from far-flung nations.
The largest contributor last year was Burma--those who were escaping
persecution in Burma. The second largest group was those coming from
Iraq. They included, incidentally, those Iraqis who had served and
helped the United States and its military during our period of
occupation. Many of them risked their lives for our soldiers, and now
they are worried about retribution and have asked for asylum refuge in
the United States.
The proposal was made by the Republican side that we should limit--in
fact, should delay and then limit--Syrian and Iraqi refugees. One has
to wonder whether or not it has anything to do with the fact that the
vast majority of people living in those two countries are of the Muslim
faith.
I have met some of these refugees in the city of Chicago. Some of
them waited up to 2 years after they were being investigated and
interviewed and fingerprinted--up to 2 years--before they could come to
the United States. Their stories of what they and their families have
been through are tragic. They come here simply to start a new life in a
safe place and to raise their children. It truly is what has motivated
people across the span of history to come to this great Nation, and
these refugees are no different.
The fact that the Republicans would start by excluding refugees--and
now, Mr. Trump takes it to the extreme of excluding people of a
religious faith, the Muslim religion--is an indication of a
conversation in American politics that needs to stop. We need to
reflect once again on the fundamental principles of this country and
the fundamental values of this country as well. I hope this is the
beginning of a reevaluation.
It wasn't but 2 weeks ago that the House of Representatives passed
the measure, the so-called pause in accepting refugees. It is
interesting what has happened since. More than half of Democrats who
voted for this--47 of them--have said they don't want to include this
measure in any final appropriations bill considered by Congress. They
are obviously having second thoughts about their votes. At least one
Republican Congressman from the State of Oklahoma said he made a
mistake; he never should have voted for this policy when it came to
Syrian refugees. So perhaps, as tempers cool and as we reflect on who
we are as a Nation and what we want to be, we will have second thoughts
about this question of refugees.
Gun Violence
Mr. President, there was another vote last week which I noted on the
floor yesterday and which I still find hard to believe. A measure was
offered by Senator Feinstein of California. What it basically said is:
If you are on a no-fly list--if you have been identified by our
government as a suspected
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terrorist--you cannot purchase firearms. That, to me, is not a radical
suggestion. It is a commonsense suggestion. The two killers in San
Bernardino had AR-15s, weapons that can be used to fire many rounds in
a hurry. The net result: 14 people died and another 18 or so were
seriously injured. So when someone is put on the no-fly list, the
suspected terrorist list, I don't think it is unreasonable to say: You
can't purchase a firearm as long as you are on that list.
Senator Feinstein addressed the question raised by the Republican
Senator from Texas: What if the government is wrong? What if your name
should not be on the list? She included in her bill a process to
challenge any name on the list and to do it in an orderly way with due
process. Apparently, Republicans felt that wasn't enough.
Overwhelmingly, Republicans voted against the Feinstein amendment.
Overwhelmingly, they voted against a proposal to ban suspected
terrorists from buying firearms in America.
Now, I know there are many people who are skeptical--maybe even
cynical--when it comes to the role of our government. But if we are not
going to take the government's information and advice when it comes to
suspected terrorists, where will we be?
Our government--through our military, our intelligence agency, the
FBI, and law enforcement--gathers information about individuals and
warns us if those individuals could be a danger to our families and to
our communities. The vote by the Republicans rejected that warning and
said: We will err on the side of giving people firearms even if they
are suspected terrorists. That makes no sense whatsoever. It shows you
the extremes you can reach when you listen closely to the gun lobby and
not to the vast majority of Americans who simply want to live in a safe
country. It shows what happens when your opposition to this President
and this government has reached the point where you question even the
basic conclusion that someone has been engaged in suspicious, if not
outright, terrorist activity. That vote was defeated. The amendment by
Senator Feinstein was defeated.
She also offered an amendment originally penned by Senator
Lautenberg--the late Senator Lautenberg of New Jersey--related to
terrorists, but the Senate also considered an amendment that related to
background checks for those who want to purchase firearms. That
amendment came to the floor under the sponsorship of Senator Manchin, a
Democrat from West Virginia, and Senator Toomey, a Republican from
Pennsylvania. What it said is very basic: If we are going to sell
firearms in America, we are going to make every reasonable effort not
to sell them to convicted felons or people who are mentally unstable.
That makes sense. In fact, it should be a standard we all accept. The
vast majority of gun owners accept that standard. They don't want guns
in the hands of people who would use them in crime or people who are
mentally unstable and can't manage a firearm. That amendment came to
the floor; again, it was defeated by the Republicans in the Senate.
That is unfortunate.
In the State of Illinois, too many crime guns cross the border from
northwest Indiana into the city of Chicago, coming into that city where
they are traced to gun shows in Indiana where there are no background
checks, where people can fill up the trunks of their cars with firearms
and ammunition, cross the border into Illinois and into Chicago, and
engage in deadly, violent contact. We should have that come to an end.
The people who own and use guns responsibly and legally have no fear.
But those who would buy them for criminal purposes or those who would
buy them when they don't have the faculties to truly maintain a firearm
or use it should be stopped.
The Republicans disagree. They are listening to the gun lobby when
they should be listening to the people of this country.
For-Profit Colleges
Mr. President, last month, the Department of Justice, along with the
Department of Education and a group of State attorneys general,
announced an agreement to settle litigation against Education
Management Corporation, the second largest for-profit college chain in
America.
EDMC was found to have been engaged in fraud and deception when it
told the Federal Government it was complying with Federal laws that
prohibited incentive compensation to be paid to recruiters. For EDMC
recruiters, students essentially had a bounty on their heads. The more
students they signed up for their for-profit colleges, the more bonuses
and perks the recruiters could receive, such as trips to places like
Cancun and Las Vegas, Starbucks gift cards, expensive candies, and
tickets to sporting events.
To tell the whole story, the same EDMC recruiters--as they were
recruiting young people to attend these for-profit colleges--needed
only to find students with a ``pulse and a Pell'' to sign up. What they
are referring to, of course, is low-income students eligible for over
$5,000 in Pell grants--$5,000 that would flow to this for-profit
college, regardless of whether the students were getting a good
education.
U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch referred to this school as a
``recruitment mill.'' What was the result of this recruitment mill?
While these illegal practices were taking place, EDMC reportedly took
in--listen to this--$11 billion in Federal funds, $11 billion in
taxpayer funds. Under the settlement, the company was fined $90
million--$11 billion; $90 million.
Well, how about the executives who masterminded the scheme to sign up
young people so that their Pell grants and government loans would flow
to the for-profit college, regardless of whether they ever finished
school or ended up with a diploma that was worth anything? What
happened to these people who engineered this scheme that cost Federal
taxpayers $11 billion--students almost $11 billion in debt--and a fine
by the government of $90 million? So far, they are getting off scot-
free.
Todd Nelson, CEO of EDMC until 2012, personally received over $25
million in total compensation during his 5 years. The settlement didn't
include any accountability for him. Now Mr. Nelson is the CEO of the
Career Education Corporation, another for-profit education company that
is under massive State and Federal scrutiny.
What about the students who were lured by EDMC's illegal recruitment
mill, pressured by the company's high-pressure, boiler-room tactics
into mountains of student debt? They can't find jobs many times, and
they certainly can't repay their loans.
Attorney General Lynch called EDMC's tactics a violation of the trust
placed in them by the students. More than 40 State attorneys general
accused the company of deception and misleading recruitment.
So let's be clear. This was not just a case of EDMC lying to the
Federal Government. Students were the victims.
I encourage the Department of Education to use the evidence the
Department of Justice and States attorneys general have in this case to
provide Federal student loan relief to students who were harmed by
Education Management Corporation. But make no mistake. If the students
are spared the student debt from these fly-by-night for-profit
colleges, ultimately the taxpayers will be the losers as well. We
provided the money to the students that flowed to the schools, and now
everyone is a loser, including the taxpayers--oh, not the officers of
the company. They walked away with millions of dollars in compensation.
There is one thing I always say at this point to make my case, and I
have never, ever heard a rebuttal from the for-profit colleges. For-
profit colleges educate about 10 percent of all the high school
graduates in America. Who are the major for-profit colleges? The
biggest one is the University of Phoenix, Kaplan is another large one,
and DeVry University is out of the city of Chicago. These are for-
profit schools.
About 10 percent of high school grants go to these for-profit
colleges. The for-profit colleges as an industry receive 20 percent of
all the Federal aid to education--10 percent of the students, 20
percent of the Federal aid. Their tuition is so high that students have
to go deeper into debt than if they had chosen a community college or a
public university. But here is the No. 1 number: 10 percent of the
students--44 percent of student loan defaults occur with students who
attend for-profit colleges and universities. Almost half
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of the students who end up going to these for-profit schools default on
their student loans.
Don't forget that student loans, student debt is not dischargeable in
bankruptcy. A 19- or 20-year-old student and their parents who sign up
for these student loans have signed up for debt for life. It cannot be
discharged. They will take it to the grave. When the student defaults,
we actually have seen efforts to secure Social Security payments from
the parents who cosigned for these loans. For 10 percent of the
students in for-profit schools, there are 44 percent of the student
loan defaults.
Well, the EDMC news came on the heels of a major announcement by
Westwood College, one of the worst actors in the for-profit college
industry. Westwood announced it would stop enrolling students in
campuses nationwide, including the four that operate in the Chicago
area. Praise the Lord.
Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan sued Westwood for engaging in
deceptive practices. Madigan's suit focused specifically on Westwood's
criminal justice program, one of the first that I have heard about that
raised my interest in this for-profit college industry. In order to
lure students into their criminal justice program, Westwood College
convinced students they could get jobs with the Chicago Police
Department and the Illinois State Police. What happened when the
students actually graduated from Westwood College, this for-profit
school, and took their degrees to the employers? The employers laughed
at them. They didn't recognize the Westwood degree. In fact, it reached
a point where they told the students they would be better off if they
didn't include Westwood College on their resumes. Just say you didn't
go to school, and you will have a better chance.
The Attorney General recently reached a settlement with Westwood
under which it would forgive $15 million in private student loans for
Illinois students. Now it appears the company as a whole may be on its
way out. That is the trend in this industry. As students and parents
across America are starting to realize these for-profit schools are bad
news and State and Federal regulators are shining a light on their
illegal tactics, enrollment is declining. At one point, I believe the
University of Phoenix had over 500,000 students. Now they are down to
less than half of that amount. Along with the decline in enrollment,
stock prices on these private corporations are plummeting.
Years of bad behavior is starting to catch up with these companies,
but the damage is done for these students. Many of their lives have
been harmed, if not ruined, by this debt. And, of course, there has
been damage to the Federal Treasury, which shells out billions--that is
with a ``b''--of dollars to the for-profit colleges that the taxpayers
will never get back. Yet the other party continues to come to the aid
of the for-profit college industry, attempting to block any steps to
ensure that for-profit colleges are following the law and held
accountable. We saw it earlier this year. The junior Senator from
Florida came to the aid of the disreputable Corinthian Colleges. While
Corinthian was lying to students about its job-placement rates,
suckering them into enrolling, and saddling them with debt, the junior
Senator from Florida was writing to the Department of Education asking
them to demonstrate leniency to Corinthian--leniency to a company that
made misrepresentations to the students, lied to the government, and
swindled taxpayers out of billions of dollars. That is the answer from
the junior Senator from Florida.
If Republicans are willing to defend Corinthian, it shouldn't be a
surprise that they want to shield for-profit colleges from what is
known as the gainful employment rule. The Department of Education has
developed responsible criteria for determining whether career education
programs really do prepare students for gainful employment. That is
required by law. The gainful employment rule ensures that students who
graduate from a covered program of study are able to get a job that
allows them to manage the student debt they take on in the process. The
point is to protect students from worthless postsecondary programs that
leave them saddled with debt and unable to get a good job. The point is
to also protect Federal taxpayers by cutting off Federal funding to
programs of study that don't really prepare students for a job. But the
for-profit college industry and their friends in Congress--they hate
this rule. Why? As an industry, for-profit colleges, as I mentioned
earlier, enroll 10 percent of the students and account for more than 40
percent of the student loan defaults. They take in $25 billion in title
IV dollars annually. If they were a Federal agency, the for-profit
colleges and universities would be the ninth largest Federal agency in
America.
Is this the private sector, is this the free market, or is this crony
capitalism that survives on massive Federal subsidies? The for-profit
colleges and universities are the most heavily subsidized private
industry in America. Their business model depends on easy access to
Federal funds and the ability to spend as little as possible on quality
education. They spend more money on advertising than they do on
teaching.
Earlier this year, the U.S. District Court for the District of
Columbia dealt a devastating blow to this industry's attempt to block
the gainful employment rule. The court upheld the rule in its entirety.
This was the second U.S. district court to do so. Having been
embarrassed in Federal court, the for-profit college industry has
turned to my friends on the other side of the aisle to protect them.
They attached a rider to the appropriations bills that fund education
programs and are pushing to include it in the final spending bill this
year to stop the Department of Education from enforcing the existing
law on gainful employment.
How can we as Members of Congress block implementation of this
commonsense rule in light of what just happened with Corinthian? This
company was inflating its job-placement rates to lure students,
defrauding the students and taxpayers, and lying to creditors and the
Federal Government. When it collapsed, when Corinthian went down, more
than 70,000 students were left in peril. Many were left with more debt
than they could ever possibly repay and a Corinthian education that is
worthless.
Now is not the time for Congress to meddle in the Department of
Education's efforts to protect taxpayers, students, and their families,
and to prevent another Corinthian collapse. The Department estimates
that of the nearly 1,400 programs of study, 99 percent of them at for-
profit colleges will fail under this basic rule. That is why the
industry is in a mad dash to find political sponsors to save them from
accountability. Programs have to fail the rule 2 out of 3 consecutive
years to be cut out of Federal funding, so the institutions do have an
opportunity to improve. If they don't, we shouldn't just continue to
blindly send billions of Federal taxpayer dollars to these companies.
With all we know about the for-profit college industry and their
fraudulent and deceptive practices, I can't believe my colleagues on
the other side of the aisle are prepared to fight a rule that is
nothing more than a way to protect students and taxpayers. But here we
are facing the prospect of a policy rider, substantive legislation in a
spending bill to shield for-profit colleges from being held accountable
and delivering on their promises to students. Well, I am going to
resist that, and I hope my colleagues will join me. It isn't just a
matter of making certain that these schools follow the law; it is a
matter of protecting students and families from being exploited--going
in for an education and ending up with nothing other than debt--and
protecting taxpayers who are sending $25 billion a year to this
industry.
We have had some heated debates on the floor about people receiving
food stamps--perhaps $180 a month in food stamps--and whether they are
deserving or whether it is a rip-off for taxpayers, but when it comes
to $25 billion for an industry that has shown over and over again that
it is the source of 44 percent of student loan defaults, to the misery
of the students and families who are victims of it, some of these same
people who are critical of food stamp fraud turn a blind eye. They say:
Oh, this is just business. Don't be afraid of making a profit.
I salute businesses that make a profit if they do it honestly,
honorably, and do it with competition. This industry is taking
advantage of Federal tax dollars in a way that no other industry is.
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I yield the floor.
I suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
The senior assistant legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. COTTON. Madam President, I ask unanimous consent that the order
for the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mrs. Fischer). Without objection, it is so
ordered.
Terrorist Watch List
Mr. COTTON. Madam President, I will be brief. I wish to respond to
what I heard earlier this morning from the Democratic leader and what
we heard from the President on Sunday night.
The Democrats would have us believe that any person on a watch list
can go and buy a firearm without any notice whatsoever. That is simply
false. The background check system that federally licensed firearm
dealers use includes a terrorist watch list, and the FBI
counterterrorism division is notified when that occurs. Of course, the
list is notoriously inaccurate. A Department of Justice IG report just
a few years ago said half of the names on the list are incorrect. The
New York Times, which continues its proselytizing for gun control, used
to be strongly opposed to the use of this list. Most famously, Ted
Kennedy, a U.S. Senator from America's leading political dynasty, was
on the list and couldn't get off for weeks, having his flights
disrupted time after time. Stephen Hayes, a well-known conservative
journalist who I admit looks a little suspicious, also found himself on
the list. It took him months of public commentary, and he was only
removed from the list when Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson
was challenged on the news about him being on the list.
If it took Ted Kennedy and Stephen Hayes weeks or months to get off
that list, how long would it take the little guy in Arkansas? For that
matter, how long do we think it would take patriotic Muslim Americans
who are on the list--most likely because of confusion about their names
with suspected terrorists--to get off that list?
Moreover, what other rights would Democrats like to deprive American
citizens of without notice and due process? Their right to free speech?
Their right to practice their religion? Their right to petition their
government? Their right to enlist unreasonable search and seizures?
Their right to a trial by jury? Their right to confront their accusers?
Their right to get just compensation when their property is taken?
Democrats should quit being so politically correct. They should focus
on winning the war against radical Islam. If they did, maybe fewer
Americans would feel the need to buy firearms to protect themselves
from terrorist attacks.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Tennessee.
Mr. ALEXANDER. Madam President, this is a day for opportunity in the
Senate. We have an opportunity today to reverse the trend of the last
several years toward a national school board. We have an opportunity to
make clear that in the future, the path to higher standards, better
teaching, and real accountability will be through States, communities,
and classrooms and not through Washington, DC.
We have an opportunity to vote in favor of what the Wall Street
Journal has called ``the largest devolution of Federal control to
States in a quarter century.''
We have an opportunity to inaugurate a new era of innovation and
excellence in student achievement by restoring responsibility to States
and classroom teachers. Tennessee, after all, was the first State that
paid teachers more for teaching well. Minnesota educators created the
first charter schools. The real advances in higher standards and
accountability and appropriate testing have come from classroom
teachers and from Governors, not from Washington, DC, and I believe
that is where those advances will come from in the future.
We have an opportunity today to provide much needed stability and
certainty to Federal education policy from some very important people
who are counting on us: 50 million children, 3.4 million teachers, and
100,000 public schools.
Newsweek magazine recently reminded us what we already know very
well: No Child Left Behind is a law everybody wants fixed. Governors,
teachers, superintendents, parents, Republicans, Democrats, and
students all want the law fixed. There is a consensus about that and
fortunately there is a consensus about how to fix it. That consensus is
this: continue the law's important measurements of academic progress of
students--disaggregate and report the results of those measurements--so
teachers, parents, and the community can know what is going on in the
schools but restore to States, school districts, classroom teachers,
and parents the responsibility for deciding what to do about those
tests and about what to do about improving student achievement.
In our Senate hearings, I suppose we heard more about over-testing
than any other subject. I believe this new law will result in fewer and
better tests because States and classroom teachers will be deciding
what to do about the results of the tests.
Building on the consensus I have just described is why the Senate--
our Senate education committee--passed our bill 22 to 0 and why it
passed on the floor 81 to 17. That is why conferees from the Senate and
the House were able to agree 38 to 1, and that is why last Thursday the
House of Representatives approved the conference report 359 to 64. That
is why the National Governors Association gave our conference report
its first full endorsement that the NGA has given to any legislation in
nearly 20 years. That is why the Chief State School Officers, the
school superintendents, the National Education Association, and the
American Federation of Teachers all have supported our result.
This consensus will end the waivers through which the U.S. Department
of Education has become in effect a national school board for more than
80,000 schools in 42 States. Governors have been forced to come to
Washington, DC, and play ``Mother, May I'' in order for a State to put
in a plan to evaluate teachers, for example, or to help a low-
performing school.
Our consensus will end the Federal common core mandate. It explicitly
prohibits Washington from mandating or even incentivizing common core
or any other specific academic standards. That is exclusively the
responsibility of the State. It moves decisions about whether schools,
teachers, and students are succeeding or failing out of Washington, DC,
and back to States and communities and classroom teachers where those
decisions belong.
I am grateful to Senator Murray, who is here today, and
Representatives Kline and Scott, and to all of the members of our
Senate education committee, for the leadership they have shown and the
bipartisan way in which they have worked on this legislation. I am
grateful to both the Democratic and Republican staffs in the Senate and
in the House for their ingenuity and hard work. Fixing No Child Left
Behind has not been easy. Everyone is an expert on education. This has
been a lot like being in a football stadium with 100,000 fans, all of
whom know exactly which play to call and usually each one of them says
so.
Some Republicans would like even more local control of schools than
our consensus provides, and I am one of them, but my Scholarship for
Kids proposal, which would have given States the option to allow
Federal dollars to follow children to the school their parents choose,
only received 45 votes in the Senate. It needed 60.
So I have decided, as a President named Reagan once advised, that I
will take 80 percent of what I want and fight for the other 20 percent
on another day. Besides, if I were to vote no, I would be voting to
leave in place the common core mandate--and I would be voting to leave
in place the waivers that permit the U.S. Department of Education to
act as a national school board for 80,000 students and 42 states--and I
would be voting against the largest step toward locally-controlled
schools in 25 years. Let me repeat that. Voting no today is voting to
leave in place the common core mandate and the national school board
and voting against the largest step toward local control of schools in
25 years.
I say to my friends, especially on the Republican side, many of whom,
as I do, would like more local control: That is not the choice. The
choice is whether
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we want to leave in place common core, the national school board, and
the largest step toward local control in 25 years. I don't want to do
that.
This law expired 8 years ago. It has become unworkable. If it were
strictly applied, it would label nearly every school in America a
failing school. So States, teachers, and parents have been waiting 8
years for us to reauthorize this law. If this were homework, they would
give Congress an F for being tardy, but I hope they will give us a good
grade for the result we have today.
It is a great privilege to serve in the U.S. Senate, but there is no
need for us to have that privilege if all we do is announce our
different opinions or vote no if we don't get 100 percent of our way.
We can do that at home or on the radio or in the newspaper or on a
street corner. As U.S. Senators, after we have had our say, our job is
to get a principled result. Today we have that opportunity.
I hope today will demonstrate that we understand the privilege we
have as Senators and show that we cherish our children by building upon
this consensus and vote yes to fix the law that everybody wants fixed
and yes for the consensus that restores responsibility for our schools
to States, communities, and classroom teachers.
Before Senator Murray speaks, I would like to do two things, briefly.
The first vote--the vote we are having today at 11:30--is a vote about
whether to cut off debate on fixing No Child Left Behind. I hope no
Senator thinks we have not had enough debate. We have been at this for
7 years. We failed in the last two Congresses. We have been working in
our committee since January. We have had innumerable hearings, more
than 50 amendments in committee, more than 70 amendments were dealt
with on the floor, a dozen or so amendments in the conference report.
Every Senator has had this in his or her office since last Monday--at
least for a week. So the question today at 11:30 is, Is it time to cut
off debate and move to a final vote? I hope every Senator will vote
yes.
Finally, I mentioned Senator Murray and her role in this, which has
been indispensable in terms of our ability to come to a result. I would
like to extend my deep thanks and appreciation to her staff and our
staff, the committee staff, that worked on fixing No Child Left Behind.
Many of them have been working on this effort for nearly 5 years. They
have been ingenious. They have worked hard. They have been
understanding, they have been tireless, and they have been
indispensable in creating this important bipartisan, bicameral bill.
That includes the staffs of Representative Kline and Representative
Scott in the House
On Senator Murray's exceptional staff I would like to thank
especially Evan Schatz, Sarah Bolton, Amanda Beaumont, John Righter,
Jake Cornett, Leanne Hotek, Allie Kimmel, and Aissa Canchola. All of
those people were very important. For my hard-working and dedicated
staff, I would especially like to thank our staff director, David
Cleary, Peter Oppenheim, Lindsay Fryer, Bill Knudsen, Jordan Hynes,
Hillary Knudson, Jake Baker, Lindsey Seidman, Allison Martin, Bobby
McMillan, Jim Jeffries, Liz Wolgemuth, Margaret Atkinson, and Taylor
Haulsee.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Washington.
Mrs. MURRAY. Madam President, 50 years ago, President Lyndon Johnson
rushed to the old elementary school he had once attended and with him
he had a piece of major legislation. At a picnic table on the lawn of
the school, President Johnson signed into law the Elementary and
Secondary Education Act--or ESEA. He said that with this law, he
envisioned ``full educational opportunity as our first national goal.''
Our Nation has always held the ideal of education for all, but in
1965 ESEA put that idea into action. It aimed to close the education
gaps between rich and poor, Black and White, kids from rural areas and
kids from big cities. In doing so, ESEA took a step forward for civil
rights.
Today we have a chance to reauthorize that civil rights law to
continue what President Johnson called our ``first national goal.'' We
have a chance to finally move away from the No Child Left Behind Act,
and we have a chance to send the Every Student Succeeds Act to the
President's desk to help ensure all kids have access to a quality
education regardless of where they live, how they learn, or how much
money their parents make.
I appreciate the tireless work of Chairman John Kline and Ranking
Member Bobby Scott in the House and their staffs. I especially want to
thank my partner here in the Senate, the chairman of the HELP Committee
and senior Senator from Tennessee, Senator Lamar Alexander. The
chairman had an opportunity to go down a partisan road, but instead he
committed to work with me earlier this year to get this important bill
done. I was very proud to work with him and with many of our colleagues
to break through the gridlock and keep this bill moving forward.
Together we passed our bill through the HELP Committee with strong
bipartisan support. We passed our bill in the Senate with strong
bipartisan support. We got approval from our bicameral conference
committee with strong bipartisan support. Last week the House passed
this final legislation with strong bipartisan support. And today I hope
our colleagues will approve this final bill with the same bipartisan
spirit that has guided our progress this far.
Nearly everyone agrees that No Child Left Behind is badly broken. I
have heard from parent after parent and teacher after teacher about how
the law overemphasized testing and how oftentimes those tests are
redundant or unnecessary. I have seen firsthand how this law is not
working for my home State of Washington. No Child Left Behind issued
one-size-fits-all mandates but failed to give the schools the resources
they needed to meet those standards.
These mandates were so unworkable that the Obama administration began
giving States waivers from the law's requirements. My State lost its
waiver last year. Parents across the State got a letter in the mail
saying their child's school was failing, and teachers were left working
as hard as ever, knowing their ``failing'' label didn't reflect the
reality in their classrooms.
A few months ago, I heard from a teacher in Seattle named Lyon Terry.
He has taught school for more than 17 years and pours his energy into
engaging with his students. He starts the morning by playing songs on
his guitar, keeps his students laughing with jokes, and every day he
tries to create an environment where kids want to come to school.
Despite Mr. Terry and his fellow teachers' hard work, his school was
labeled as failing. That is not fair to teachers like Mr. Terry, it is
not fair to the parents who need confidence in the education their kids
get at public schools, and it is not fair to students who should never
have to bear the consequences of this broken law.
Fixing No Child Left Behind has been one of my top priorities for
students, families, and communities back home in Washington State and
across the country. Back in January we didn't know there would be a
path to compromise on a bill to reauthorize the Nation's K-12 law, but
I started out with several principles and Washington State priorities
that I would be fighting for.
First, I knew we needed to ensure that schools and States provided a
quality education to all our students because we already know what
happens when we don't hold them accountable for every child.
Inevitably, it is the kids of color or kids with disabilities or kids
learning English who too often fall through the cracks. I said back in
January and I will repeat that true accountability means holding up our
schools to our Nation's promise of equality and justice.
I knew we had to give schools and teachers resources they need so
they can help their schools reach full potential because in some
schools students don't have the same opportunity to graduate ready for
college and careers in the 21st-century economy like other students do.
I knew we should only pass an education bill that would help expand
access to early childhood education because giving more students the
chance to start kindergarten ready to learn is one of the smartest
investments our country can make.
I am proud to report that our bill, the Every Student Succeeds Act,
takes major strides on those priorities and
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much more. The Every Student Succeeds Act will put an end to the one-
size-fits-all mandates of No Child Left Behind. It will end the era of
State waivers. That will give teachers and parents in my State of
Washington and across the country some much needed certainty.
Our bipartisan bill will also reduce reliance on high-stakes testing
so teachers and students can spend less time on test prep and more time
on learning. I know that is going to be a major relief for teachers and
principals, such as high school principal Lori Wyborney in Spokane, WA.
She told me she wants to see some commonsense policies for testing.
That is what our bill will help to do.
While the Every Student Succeeds Act gives States more flexibility,
it also includes strong Federal guardrails to hold schools and States
accountable. Our bill will make sure schools work to close achievement
gaps that too often hurt kids from low-income backgrounds, students of
color, those learning English, or those with disabilities. For schools
that struggle the most to help students succeed and for high schools
where more than a third of their students fail to earn a diploma, our
bill will take steps to make sure they improve.
A couple of weeks ago, I met a parent named Duncan. He has a son in
second grade in the Highland public schools, and Duncan is active in
their PTA. Many of the kids in his school district struggle with
poverty. Duncan has said he has seen firsthand how, in districts like
this, ``every dollar matters.''
In the Every Student Succeeds Act, I fought hard to make sure that
Federal resources go to the schools and districts that need them the
most by rejecting a proposal known as portability. If enacted,
portability would have siphoned off money from the schools with the
highest concentration of students in poverty and sent it to more
affluent schools. Our bill protects schools with students in low-income
areas and upholds our responsibility to invest Federal resources where
they are needed the most.
Even so, many schools and districts don't get equal access to the
resources they need to help students learn, grow, and thrive. These are
things such as offering AP classes, how much funding districts spend on
each student, access to preschool, and many more. Our bill will require
all schools to report on these issues to help shine a light on resource
inequality.
Our bipartisan bill will help improve and expand access to preschool
programs. Before I ever thought about running for elected office, I
taught preschool in a small community in my home State of Washington. I
remember that the first day with new students would always start the
same way: Some kids wouldn't know how to hold a pencil or crayon or how
to turn a page in a book. But over the first few months, they would
start to catch on. They learned how to listen at story time. They
learned how to stand in line for recess. By the time they left for
kindergarten, they had those basic skills and many more, so they were
ready to tackle a full curriculum in school.
I have seen firsthand the kind of transformation early learning can
inspire in a child, and I am so glad that for the first time, our
Nation's primary education law will invest in early childhood
education. I fought hard for this because I know that investing now in
preschool will payoff for years to come.
Strong Federal guardrails for accountability, shining a light on
resource inequity, reducing the reliance on high-stakes testing, and
increasing access to preschool are some of the great things in this
bill, but almost as important is what this bill represents. Gridlock
and dysfunction have come to define Congress over the past several
years, but on an issue as important as education and on a law as broken
as No Child Left Behind, we worked together and found a way to find
common ground.
It is not the bill I would have written on my own. I know it isn't
the bill Republicans would have written on their own. That is the
nature of compromise. We put partisanship aside and proved that
Congress can get results for the American people, and that kind of
bipartisanship is what we need more of here in Congress.
With the legislative process for this bill coming to an end, I am
looking ahead to the future. When all students have the chance to
learn, we strengthen our workforce, our Nation grows stronger, and our
economy grows from the middle out, not from the top down. We empower
the next generation of Americans to lead the world.
As proud as I am that we have come this far on the Every Student
Succeeds Act, we always have to keep improving educational
opportunities. I am going to see to it that this bill is implemented
effectively, that schools and teachers get the resources they need, and
that students have access to the programs that help them succeed in the
classroom and beyond. I am going to keep pushing to build on the
progress we have made in this bill and make sure more students start
school on a strong footing. I am going to keep fighting to make college
more affordable and reduce the crushing burden of student debt. I am
going to keep working every single day to make sure our government is
doing everything possible to help students in Washington State and
across the country. Reauthorizing ESEA isn't the finish line; for me,
it is more of a milestone in an ongoing commitment to swing open more
doors for Americans.
I am asking all of my colleagues here today to join me. Let's fix
this No Child Left Behind law. Let's show teachers and principals that
we are on their side. And let's help instill educational opportunity as
our first national goal and grow our Nation stronger for generations to
come.
In a few minutes, as the chairman said, we will be voting on cloture
to end debate so that we can move to passage of this bill. Along with
him, I thank all of our staff. When we get to the final bill, I want to
name them as well. They have put in an incredible amount of time, work,
and hours to help get to this agreement. Again, I thank all of our
staffs on both sides of the aisle and in the House. I will say more
about that later, but I truly want to thank Chairman Alexander for
taking the time to be thoughtful, to work with us, and to find a path
forward for compromise on a law that was broken that needed to be fixed
and that we are about to pass.
Thank you, Madam President.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Tennessee.
Mr. ALEXANDER. Madam President, I have said many times but I would
like to say again that at the beginning of this discussion, when the
Senator from Washington and I talked about how we had been stuck for
two Congresses on this, I started in one direction and she suggested a
different direction. As it turned out, she gave me good advice. I took
it, and as a result, we have a result. So I thank her for that, and I
look forward to working with her on other important issues in the same
way.
The Senator from Georgia would like to speak before we vote.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Georgia.
Mr. ISAKSON. Madam President, as the last surviving person who served
on the committee who wrote the original No Child Left Behind Act for
the Congress, I am delighted to be here on this day.
I think this Senator speaks for every superintendent, every Governor,
every parent, and every child to say thank you to Senator Alexander and
Senator Murray. We knew when we wrote No Child Left Behind that if it
worked, by the time the sixth year came, we would have to reauthorize
it or else it would go from a net positive to a negative. We didn't
reauthorize it, and AYP became a problem, good schools became needs-
improvement schools, and the law worked backward. In fact, we have run
education by waivers the last 6 years.
The leadership of these two great Members of Congress. Seeing this
bill through in the committee is a great testimony to working together,
to finding common ground, and to our collective purpose of seeing to it
that our children are the best educated children in the world.
Senator Alexander, thank you. Senator Murray, thank you for what you
have done.
To the Members of Congress, the Senate will vote in a few minutes. We
need a vote for cloture and a vote for final
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passage to see to it that we end a chapter in education and open a new
chapter--a chapter that focuses on student improvement, student
achievement, leaves No Child Left Behind but also sees that every child
can succeed and makes sure we disaggregate so we can focus on children
as they perform within their own group and we can focus on every child
in every school in America.
I am honored to have been a member of the committee that worked hard
on this bill, and I am honored to serve with Senators Alexander and
Murray.
I appreciate the time to speak on behalf of not just myself but for
every student, teacher, and parent in America.
Thank you.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Tennessee.
Mr. ALEXANDER. Madam President, I thank the Senator from Georgia, and
I salute him. The Senator from Georgia is a former chairman of the
Georgia State Board of Education. His experience there, his work with
Senator Murray on early childhood education, and his insistence on an
amendment that gives States the right to allow parents to opt out of
federally required tests all were major contributions to this
legislation. I think it is fair to say that we could not have fixed No
Child Left Behind without Johnny Isakson's experience and leadership,
and I am deeply grateful to him for that.
We yield back all time on our side.
Mrs. MURRAY. Madam President, we yield back all our time as well.
Cloture Motion
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Pursuant to rule XXII, the Chair lays before
the Senate the pending cloture motion, which the clerk will state.
The legislative clerk read as follows:
Cloture Motion
We, the undersigned Senators, in accordance with the
provisions of rule XXII of the Standing Rules of the Senate,
do hereby move to bring to a close debate on the conference
report to accompany S. 1177, an act to reauthorize the
Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965 to ensure that
every child achieves.
Mitch McConnell, Lamar Alexander, Mike Rounds, Deb
Fischer, Dan Sullivan, Lisa Murkowski, Orrin G. Hatch,
Shelley Moore Capito, Pat Roberts, Chuck Grassley,
Richard Burr, Cory Gardner, John Hoeven, John Cornyn,
David Perdue, Johnny Isakson, Daniel Coats.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. By unanimous consent, the mandatory quorum
call has been waived.
The question is, Is it the sense of the Senate that debate on the
conference report to accompany S. 1177, an original bill to reauthorize
the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965 to ensure that every
child achieves, shall be brought to a close?
The yeas and nays are mandatory under the rule.
The clerk will call the roll.
The legislative clerk called the roll.
Mr. CORNYN. The following Senators are necessarily absent: the
Senator from Indiana (Mr. Coats), the Senator from South Carolina (Mr.
Graham), and the Senator from Florida (Mr. Rubio).
Mr. DURBIN. I announce that the Senator from Vermont (Mr. Sanders) is
necessarily absent.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Are there any other Senators in the Chamber
desiring to vote?
The yeas and nays resulted--yeas 84, nays 12, as follows:
[Rollcall Vote No. 333 Leg.]
YEAS--84
Alexander
Ayotte
Baldwin
Barrasso
Bennet
Blumenthal
Booker
Boozman
Boxer
Brown
Burr
Cantwell
Capito
Cardin
Carper
Casey
Cassidy
Cochran
Collins
Coons
Corker
Cornyn
Cotton
Donnelly
Durbin
Enzi
Ernst
Feinstein
Fischer
Flake
Franken
Gardner
Gillibrand
Grassley
Hatch
Heinrich
Heitkamp
Heller
Hirono
Hoeven
Inhofe
Isakson
Johnson
Kaine
King
Kirk
Klobuchar
Lankford
Leahy
Manchin
Markey
McCain
McCaskill
McConnell
Menendez
Merkley
Mikulski
Murkowski
Murphy
Murray
Nelson
Perdue
Peters
Portman
Reed
Reid
Roberts
Rounds
Schatz
Schumer
Sessions
Shaheen
Stabenow
Sullivan
Tester
Thune
Tillis
Toomey
Udall
Warner
Warren
Whitehouse
Wicker
Wyden
NAYS--12
Blunt
Crapo
Cruz
Daines
Lee
Moran
Paul
Risch
Sasse
Scott
Shelby
Vitter
NOT VOTING--4
Coats
Graham
Rubio
Sanders
The PRESIDING OFFICER. On this vote, the yeas are 84, the nays are
12.
Three-fifths of the Senators duly chosen and sworn having voted in
the affirmative, the motion is agreed to.
The Senator from Tennessee.
Mr. ALEXANDER. Madam President, on behalf of the Senator from
Washington, Mrs. Murray, I ask unanimous consent that notwithstanding
the provisions of rule XXII, the vote on adoption of the conference
report to accompany S. 1177 occur at 10:45 a.m., on Wednesday, December
9, which is tomorrow.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. ALEXANDER. Madam President, that sets the final vote on our bill
to fix No Child Left Behind tomorrow morning at 10:45 a.m. I don't
think there is any doubt what the result will be. We have had a series
of votes that give a pretty clear indication of where the Senate is.
The vote today was 84 to 12 to cut off debate and move to the final
vote. Senators who wish to speak between now and then can do that.
Senator Murray, in her remarks, mentioned how good this process has
been, and I wish to call that to the attention of Senators as well. The
Senate can operate pretty well under the rules that it has if Senators
will agree to cooperate with one another. I said before that I think
one reason Senator Murray works so well toward a result, even though
she is a partisan leader in the Democratic conference, is because she
used to be a preschool teacher, and in kindergarten you learn how to
work well with others and that is true in her case. That is actually
true with all of the members of our committee. We have as much
divergence on our committee, with 22 members, as does any committee. I
will not name the names of the Senators, but there is almost no one who
can dispute that. Yet we went through a process, which Senator Murray
and I agreed on at her suggestion, and this is what happened: We had 22
members in the committee vote yes to move the bill to the floor. That
is every single member of the committee. Several of those members
agreed to withhold amendments that might have been damaging to the bill
so we could deal with them on the floor.
In the committee we considered 58 amendments and 29 were adopted.
Twenty-four of the adopted amendments were offered by Democrats and
five amendments were offered by Republicans. Then we went to the floor.
When we moved to the floor, the vote was 81 to 17--not quite as good as
today, but it was a very good vote. We had 52 Member priorities
incorporated into a substitute amendment. In other words, 52 Senators
made suggestions about the final bill. Forty-four of these were
priorities requested by Democrats and eight were priorities requested
by Republicans. On the Senate floor, 177 amendments were filed and 78
were considered--23 by rollcall vote and 65 amendments were agreed to.
Forty of the adopted amendments were offered by Democrats, 25 by
Republicans.
Sometimes I have heard it said that we don't have time to deal with
amendments. We dealt with 177 amendments on the floor in less than a
week. The practice of going around to our colleagues and talking them
out of amendments takes more time than it does to actually vote on them
and to give them a chance to participate. In conference 17 more
amendments were filed, 10 from the House, 7 from the Senate. Of those
17 amendments, 9 were considered and 7 were agreed to--4 Democrats, 3
Republicans.
I suggest to the Senate and President that it is not a secret why we
were able to succeed this year in fixing a bill that is very difficult
to fix. We know that because we have tried very hard in each of the
last two Congresses, working with the Secretary of Education, House
Republicans and Democrats, and the Senate Republicans and Democrats. We
spent a lot of hours working on a bill, but we failed.
Why did we have more success this time? I think it is because
everybody had a part in the process, everybody had a chance to have
their say. We had amendments in committee, we had
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amendments on the floor, and we had amendments in the conference. If
you are convinced that you had a chance to have your say, then it is
easier to say: Ok. Let's vote. I might win or lose, but at least I had
my say and we need to get a result. I would like to see more of that
here. We can do that fairly easily, and the key to it is allowing
amendments.
It is possible, under the Senate rules, for Senator Murray to offer
an amendment and to try to make it pending, and I can object. If I then
offer an amendment, she might object, and then the whole process
collapses. So any one of us can keep the Senate functioning as it
should, but in this case--an issue when there are alligators lurking in
every corner of the pond that could have brought this to a halt and
nearly did several times--we were able to go through the process and
get a result for the benefit of 50 million children and 3.4 million
teachers in 100,000 public schools.
Someone asked me earlier yesterday what it would take to have the
American people have a higher opinion of the U.S. Congress. My answer
is actions such as this, where we take an issue that affects real
Americans in the schools they attend, the homes where they are doing
their homework, and the teachers who are working every day--this
affects every single one of them. This empowers them to do their job.
This creates an opportunity for a new era of innovation and excellence
in student achievement. When we work together to get this result, I
think people think better of the process here.
As I said earlier, it is possible to just stand here and say: Here is
my opinion, and if I don't get 100 percent, I will vote no. If that
were all I wanted to do, I would stay home. I would stand on the street
corner or get my own radio show or column, offer my opinion for about 5
minutes, and then go do something else, but I wouldn't waste my time
trying to be a U.S. Senator. It is hard to get here, and then it is
hard to stay here. So while you are here, you might as well amount to
something, and amounting to something as a U.S. Senator is getting a
principled result on issues that are important to the American people.
We have done that this year more than most people might think.
Senator Murray has a well-known reputation in this body, not just for
being a Democratic leader but for being someone who is interested in a
result. Senator Wyden is working with Senator Hatch on tax extenders
and Senator Udall worked with Senator Vitter on chemical safety. The
Energy bill that came out of committee depended upon Senator Cantwell
as well as Senator Murkowski. The mental health bill that came out of
our committee came from Senators Murray and Alexander. The cyber
security bill that passed the Senate was the work of Senator Feinstein
as well as Senator Burr. The trafficking victims law came from Senators
McCaskill and Cornyn. The terrorism risk insurance was the result of
Senators Brown and Shelby working together. The Iran Nuclear Review
Act, which is a pretty extraordinary bill, started with Senator
Menendez, then Senator Cardin, along with Senator Corker. The Veterans
Suicide Prevention Act came from Senators Durbin and McCain.
I haven't even mentioned all of the important legislation that came
through the Senate this year. So it is perfectly possible for us to
deal with very important pieces of legislation if we work together, and
both Democratic and Republican Senators have all shown they can work
together.
I look forward to the vote tomorrow at 10:45 a.m.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from New York.
Mr. SCHUMER. Madam President, I ask unanimous consent that for the
next 20 minutes I be given 4 minutes, Senator Shaheen be given 4
minutes, Senator Blumenthal be given 4 minutes, Senator Feinstein be
given 4 minutes, and Senator Murphy be given 4 minutes, concluding in a
unanimous consent request.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Unanimous Consent Request--S. 551
Mr. SCHUMER. Madam President, like so many Americans, my thoughts are
with the families and friends of those affected by the terror in San
Bernardino last week. Our hearts go out to the victims and their
families.
As we learn more about the suspects, it is becoming clear that San
Bernardino will serve as a sad--but also shocking--reminder of what
needs to be done to address what has become known as the terror gap.
I rise to support that most commonsense proposal to bar individuals
on the terrorist watch list from being able to legally get a gun. The
GAO found that between 2004 and 2014 suspected terrorists attempted to
exploit this loophole. People say: Well, this never happens. Listen to
this. Those on the terror watch list tried to purchase guns 2,233 times
and succeeded in 2,043 of those--or 91 percent.
It is absolute insanity that this is not already a restriction we
have in place. Given what happened in San Bernardino, it is extra
insanity that we are not going to move on this and that we haven't
moved on this already. It makes no sense. We can't let a small group--
an influential, powerful lobbying group--make America less safe. Yet
many of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle are doing just
that. Because the NRA says no, they say no, even though terrorism is a
scourge that we have to deal with on many fronts.
I appreciate my friend from Texas. He says there are certain people
on the terrorist watch list who don't belong there. There are a few,
but this newly found sympathy for the civil liberties of those who
might be causing trouble is surprising. We don't say abolish the
criminal justice system because not every single person we convict is
guilty--although 99 percent probably are or some large percentage. Why
are we doing it here? Are we saying if there are two or three people on
this terrorist watch list--20 or 30 who shouldn't be there and they
have the right to appeal and correct it; I have done it for
constituents--then we should let the other thousands who belong on that
watch list and who present a danger to America buy guns? It makes no
sense.
I ask my friends on the other side of the aisle: Why should
terrorists like the ones who perpetrated the heinous attack in Paris or
the ones who did in San Bernardino be allowed to buy a gun? No red
herring argument will work. This is plain common sense at a time when
we need common sense, and it should not be a partisan measure. Guess
who introduced this idea originally? Not Barack H. Obama but George W.
Bush in 2007.
The vast majority of gun owners may have a right to have a gun, and I
would protect their right to have a gun if they are not felons or
adjudicated mentally ill or spousal abusers; therefore, everyone is for
it. The other side says no. So I hope now that it has become--
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The time of the Senator has expired.
Mr. SCHUMER. I ask unanimous consent for 30 additional seconds.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. SCHUMER. Now that it has become clear since our last vote that
the two in San Bernardino have terrorist ties, I hope when Senator
Murray propounds the unanimous consent request, the other side will
support it.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Flake). The Senator from New Hampshire.
Mrs. SHAHEEN. Mr. President, I come to the floor to join my
colleagues because I also believe we should keep guns out of the hands
of terrorists. I don't think that applies to law-abiding citizens, but
I think it does apply to terrorists.
I have been a strong supporter of the Second Amendment. In New
Hampshire, we have a rich tradition of safe and legal firearm
ownership. We have a rich tradition of hunting and sportsman's
activities. But like most Granite Staters, I also support pragmatic and
sensible ways to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people who
would threaten this country, while also protecting the rights of law-
abiding citizens. That is what we are discussing here today.
We have put forward commonsense legislation that adheres to a pretty
simple principle: If you are not allowed on a plane because you are on
a no-fly list, because you are suspected of threatening the country,
then you should not be allowed to buy a gun.
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I want to repeat what Senator Schumer said because I think people
don't think that is real. They think: Oh, well, if you are on the no-
fly list, you are not going to be able to buy a gun. But according to
the Government Accountability Office, between 2004 and 2014, suspected
terrorists attempted to purchase guns from American dealers at least
2,233 times that we know of. In 2,043 of those cases--2,043--91 percent
of the time, those suspected terrorists succeeded. That is
unacceptable, and it is time we close the loophole that allows
suspected terrorists to purchase guns.
After the horrific tragedy last week that was carried out by
radicalized individuals in San Bernardino, it is clear that we need to
be doing more to prevent violent attacks inspired by ISIS here at home.
Closing this loophole in our gun laws is a commonsense thing that we
can do today.
I have heard concerns that the legislation we have proposed doesn't
allow for adequate due process for those on the list, but that is just
not correct. The Department of Homeland Security has a process in place
for removing a name from the no-fly list. As Senator Feinstein, the
author of the legislation, has noted, the FBI office that handles the
firearm background check system must provide a reason for a denial upon
request. Individuals who are listed then have a right to correct any
inaccurate records in the background check system. So there is a
process in place for people who are wrongfully on that no-fly list to
be able to remove their names.
I would ask those who oppose this bill: If the no-fly list is not
good enough for keeping guns out of the hands of terrorists, why is it
worthwhile for protecting commercial airline flights from terrorists?
The reasoning is inconsistent.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The time of the Senator has expired.
Mrs. SHAHEEN. Mr. President, it is time to come together in the
interests of national security to pass this bill to close this loophole
in our Nation's gun laws.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Connecticut.
Mr. BLUMENTHAL. Mr. President, we talk in this Chamber every day
about the threat of terrorism and many associated terrorist threats
with airplanes and explosives, but we have seen in recent horrifying
events in Paris and in San Bernardino how much tragic carnage can be
wrought by a small number of people using firearms designed for war.
They are using assault weapons that have the purpose to kill and maim
human beings--no other purpose. For me and for the American people,
common sense says a person too dangerous to be permitted on a plane is
too dangerous to be permitted a gun. No fly, no gun. No check, no gun.
That ought to be the rule. It is a commonsense rule.
When I talk to people in Connecticut and they say to me ``Why didn't
the Senate approve that rule?'' there is no commonsense explanation.
The reason given by colleagues on the other side that there is some due
process violation is nonsense. I hesitate to say it is that frivolous,
but it is because, No. 1, there is a right to challenge the designation
on the no-fly list through the Department of Homeland Security, which
has to provide reasons and an opportunity to challenge it. Also, under
Senator Feinstein's bill, there is an additional safeguard to
constitutional rights because it can be challenged through the
Department of Justice, which is required to establish an administrative
process and then an appeal--a right of appeal to the Federal courts.
Anybody denied permission to buy a gun has a right of appeal. So the
rule no-fly, no gun is based on common sense and legal, constitutional
rights.
No right, in fact, is absolute. Whether it is the First Amendment or
any other right, there is the guarantee in the Constitution that there
will be reasonable restrictions, when necessary, to protect the public
interests, and here is a case of the public interests clearly deserving
this protection. If there are problems with any individual being on the
list, challenge it, but clearly having to wait 72 hours for that check
and for the denial of permission to go forward is unreasonable.
I urge that we move forward with this commonsense protection for the
public. I am hard-pressed to think of a more clear and staggering
example of the gun lobby's influence than the defeat of this bill.
Plainly, the vote last week showed that the gun lobby unfortunately
still has a staggering stranglehold on this process. When it comes to
law enforcement, they are on our side.
I urge our colleagues to heed this reasonable request: No fly, no
gun. If you are on that no-fly list, if you are too dangerous to fly
and to board a plane, the Constitution says this reasonable restriction
should be adopted.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The time of the Senator has expired.
The Senator from Minnesota.
Ms. KLOBUCHAR. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent to speak for 7
minutes. I understand that wasn't in the original request.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Ms. KLOBUCHAR. Mr. President, when I was a prosecutor, we had one
straightforward goal: Convict the guilty and protect the innocent. To
me, that simple mission still holds true. We must make our world safer
by rooting out evil in our midst, while still protecting the rights of
people who mean no harm. Those 14 people in San Bernardino, that
American aid worker killed in Mali, those innocent families whose plane
exploded over Egypt, and those young people killed and maimed in Paris
deserve nothing less.
That means, of course, taking out evil at its roots, increasing our
efforts, and leading an international coalition against ISIS, and it
means keeping our homeland safe. Part of that is tightening the Visa
Waiver Program, and some of it is the work that must be done on
encryption. But there is one commonsense way to get at this terror that
I join my colleagues in supporting today--commonsense action to close a
dangerous loophole that allows suspected terrorists to illegally buy
guns in the United States.
Incredibly, current U.S. law does not prevent individuals who are on
terror watch lists from purchasing guns. A total of 2,233 people on the
watch list tried to buy guns in our country between 2004 and 2014, and
more than 2,000--or 91 percent of them--cleared a background check
according to the information from the Government Accountability Office.
I am a cosponsor--and have been before these tragic events of the
last few weeks--of Senator Feinstein's bill to close this loophole.
During last week's budget debate, I joined 25 of my Senate colleagues
in offering an amendment that would also have stopped these dangerous
individuals from buying firearms and explosives.
Passing legislation to ensure that suspected terrorists cannot buy
guns has bipartisan support in the House of Representatives, where
Republican Congressman Peter King of New York has long advocated for
this change.
As we work to fight terrorists abroad, as we work to stop the
recruitment in our own country--which I know well from my own State of
Minnesota, where we have over a dozen cases and indictments against
those who were trying to go to fight with ISIS and others who were
going to fight with al-Shabaab--we have been very aggressive in going
after those cases as well as working to prevent recruitment from
occurring in the first place.
This is all a piece of a very difficult puzzle, but to close our eyes
and say that people on a terror watch list can go out and buy a gun is
wrong. We need to do everything we can to ensure that those suspected
of terrorist activities cannot buy guns in the United States. I am
hopeful the Senate can come together to advance this commonsense
national security measure to keep lethal weapons out of the wrong
hands.
Thank you, Mr. President.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Connecticut.
Mr. MURPHY. Mr. President, I am here to join my colleagues in our
call to bring for debate and vote on the Senate floor a measure that is
supported, I would argue, by probably 95 to 99 percent of my
constituents, and that is the simple idea that if you are on a
terrorist watch list, if you are suspected of being involved in
terrorist activities, you shouldn't be able to purchase a gun. I will
be asking for a unanimous consent agreement in order to move this
debate to the floor.
Here is why it matters. What we know right now is that over the last
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months ISIS has lost about 25 percent of their territory in Iraq and
Syria. That is not good enough, and hopefully we will be able to join
together to put even more pressure on the so-called caliphate, to
shrink it down eventually to elimination. But the growth of ISIS is
dependent on two narratives. One is a narrative that the so-called
caliphate is growing, and second, the narrative that the East is at war
with the West, that the Muslim world is at war with the Christian
world. As the first narrative becomes less powerful, the second one
becomes even more important. So, as shocking as Paris was, as shocking
as San Bernardino was, it is not surprising in the respect that these
attacks outside of Syria and Iraq are now becoming more important, more
necessary to this terror organization in order to perpetuate this
second set of mythology around the Islamic world being at war with the
Christian world.
Now is the moment that Republicans and Democrats have to come
together around hardening our country from potential attackers and
potential attacks and recognize that because these attacks may be more
important than ever before to the future expansion of ISIS, we have to
take steps to make sure they don't occur. One of the simplest ways we
can do that is embodied in Senator Feinstein's piece of legislation.
Let's just say together that those who are on the terrorist watch
list--and this is a list you get on if you have reason for the FBI or
other law enforcement to believe you are affiliated in some way, shape,
or form with a terrorist organization. You may not have committed a
crime yet, but you have had communications or affiliations with
terrorist organizations. Let's just agree that people on that list
should by default be prohibited from buying guns.
Importantly, the bill has in it provisions that would allow for those
individuals to get off that list, to be able to say that they were put
on it mistakenly. But let's say as a default premise that if you are on
a terrorist watch list, you shouldn't be able to purchase a gun.
Recent polling tells us that the vast overwhelming majority of
Americans support this law. In addition, the vast overwhelming majority
of American gun owners support this law, in part because they have seen
statistics. It bears repeating. My colleagues have talked about these
numbers, but they really are stunning.
Over the last 10 years, someone on the terrorist watch list has
attempted to purchase a weapon 2,223 times. In 2,043 of those
instances, they were successful in purchasing the weapon, taking it
home. That is a 91-percent success rate. It may be that 1 or 2 of those
2,000 shouldn't have been on that list, but this legislation gives them
the power to contest that and to get off that list eventually, as it
should. But let's not live in a fantasy world in which the majority of
people on that list shouldn't be there. The list isn't foolproof, but
the vast majority--95 percent, 99 percent--of those on the terrorist
watch list are there with reason, and they shouldn't be able to walk
out of a store with a weapon. That is why three-quarters of gun owners
and 90 percent of Americans support this legislation.
While today it has become partisan--Republicans are standing almost
in lockstep against a bill that stops terrorists from getting guns--
historically this has been bipartisan. This was initially proposed by
President Bush and then-Attorney General Alberto Gonzales. Let's make
it bipartisan again. Today on the floor of the Senate, let's decide
that we are going to have a debate on this and that we are going to
bring it for a vote because that is where the majority of our
constituents are. They want us to take steps together to stop
terrorists from getting guns.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator's time has expired.
Mr. MURPHY. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the Judiciary
Committee be discharged from further consideration of S. 551 and the
Senate proceed to its immediate consideration; I further ask that the
bill be read a third time and passed and the motion to reconsider be
considered made and laid upon the table with no intervening action or
debate.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
The majority whip.
Mr. CORNYN. Mr. President, reserving the right to object, would the
Senator modify the request to include the Cornyn substitute amendment
which is at the desk?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Does the Senator so modify his request?
Mr. MURPHY. Mr. President, reserving the right to object, it is my
understanding that this substitute would require the Federal Government
to go to court in order to stop someone on the terrorist watch list
from purchasing a weapon. As a default, we should all agree that if you
are on the terrorist watch list, you can't walk out of a gun store with
a gun and that it simply shouldn't be incumbent on the Federal
Government to go through a court process in order to stop you from
doing that. If you shouldn't be on the list, there are ways you can get
off the list. But there is absolutely no reason to delay the process of
stopping one of these would-be terrorists from getting a gun by
requiring a complicated court process every time someone on the
terrorist watch list walks into a gun store. For that reason, Mr.
President, I object to the motion to modify.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The majority whip.
Mr. CORNYN. Mr. President, I am astonished by the proposition of our
friend the Senator from Connecticut that you can be on a secret watch
list by the Federal Government, and just by virtue of this secret
listing of an individual on a government watch list, you can be denied
some of your core constitutional rights without any necessity of the
government establishing probable cause or producing any evidence that
would justify the denial of a core constitutional right. I guess if it
is good enough to take the government's word by this list without proof
or showing of probable cause to deny a citizen their constitutional
rights under the Second Amendment, then I guess that is good enough to
deny a citizen's right to worship according to the dictates of their
conscience, freedom of speech, freedom of association, and all of the
other rights enumerated in the Constitution. It is an outrageous
proposition.
I would say to my friend, if these people on this government watch
list are truly dangerous, why isn't the Obama administration and the
Obama Justice Department indicting them, taking them to court, trying
them, and convicting them of crimes? Instead, you have this secret
watch list, without any proof, without any evidence.
I would just say that the Senator has mischaracterized the amendment
which I proposed last week and which I have now offered by unanimous
consent.
What would happen is, if an individual on the watch list goes in to
purchase a gun, there would be the National Instant Criminal Background
Check System, which would then access the watch list. If the Department
of Justice was worried, based on that notice, that somebody was
attempting to buy a gun, they could intervene for 72 hours to stop the
individual from purchasing the gun. If they were further worried about
this individual, they could go to court and, before a Federal judge,
produce evidence to justify the detention of that individual to take
them off the street. This is a complete response to the concerns raised
by our friends across the aisle.
But I will tell you what is really motivating all of this. First of
all, the Feinstein amendment which was offered last week was a complete
substitute to the ObamaCare repeal bill that we voted on and passed
last week. As such, this was a surreptitious means to try to defeat our
ability to repeal the abomination known as ObamaCare, which has only a
37-percent approval rating, and our colleagues across the aisle knew
that. Under the Senate procedures, a complete substitute to the
reconciliation bill that we passed last week would have been
accomplished if the Feinstein amendment had been agreed to.
But they went even further and are trying to distract the American
people from the fact that the President of the United States and
Commander in Chief has absolutely no strategy to deal with the threat
of ISIS here in the United States. I presume the immediate motivation
was what happened in San Bernardino, the terrible tragedy, but our
colleagues across the aisle are trying to capitalize on that particular
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tragedy in order to justify this unconstitutional attempt to deny
American citizens their core constitutional rights without any proof
and without any evidence.
I would just add that if our friends across the aisle think this
watch list is so perfect and so infallible, they ought to read an
editorial that was produced by the New York Times in 2014 where the
American Civil Liberties Union and others objected to the watch list as
being a secret government list without any evidence or any proof. They
cited a 2007 audit of the 71,000 people on the government watch list
and noted that half of those 71,000 were erroneously included in the
watch list.
So we all understand what is going on here. This isn't about finding
solutions to real problems; this is about trying to change the subject
and to distract the American people from the fact that the President
and this administration have absolutely no strategy to deal with the
threat of ISIS and the President tells us merely to stay the course. So
I understand what is going on.
I also would say that the other main purpose of our friends across
the aisle, other than to defeat our ability to repeal ObamaCare, which
we successfully did in the Senate last week, is to create a ``gotcha''
moment for Senators and candidates who are running in 2016. Already,
the Senator from Connecticut has appeared on national news shows, the
President of the United States in his weekly speech to the Nation, and
the Senate Democratic leader have already misrepresented what was in
the Cornyn substitute to the Feinstein amendment last week to suggest
that people who voted against the Feinstein amendment really, really
wanted to make sure that terrorists got guns. That is an outrageous
accusation, and it is as false as it is outrageous.
So I think it is pretty obvious what is going on here. This is an
effort to undermine our ability to repeal ObamaCare. It is an effort to
distract from the fact that the President of the United States, the
Commander in Chief, has no strategy to defeat ISIS. In fact, the
Democratic leader said yesterday that really what we need is an ISIS
czar. An ISIS czar? I thought that is the job of the Commander in
Chief, the President of the United States, to fight and win the
Nation's wars and to keep us safe here at home. Give me a break. Then
this foolish idea that we ought to simply take the Federal Government's
word without any proof or any necessity of producing evidence in a
court of law and meeting some basic minimal legal standard before we
deny American citizens their core constitutional rights is just
outrageous.
So, Mr. President, I think it is pretty obvious what is going on
here, and I am happy to have the American people render their judgment.
For that reason, I object.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Objection is heard.
The Senator from Connecticut.
Mr. MURPHY. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent to speak for 5
minutes.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. MURPHY. Thank you, Mr. President.
The Senator is correct that last week Senate Democrats thought that
it was more important to talk about terrorism than it was to talk about
the repeal of the Affordable Care Act for the 16th time in the U.S.
Senate, 55, 60 times in the House of Representatives. We did think it
was more important last week to talk about stopping terrorists from
getting weapons. I am sorry we didn't find that bipartisan consensus
last week.
What we are talking about here today is a different threat than we
have ever seen before, and what we want to do is to stop terrorism
before it happens.
The Senator from Texas is right that many of the individuals on the
terrorist watch list have not committed a crime, but in order to get on
the terrorist watch list, you have to have been in communication with
those who are trying to create radical jihad here in the United States.
By denying those individuals from getting a weapon, you are serving to
prevent a terrorist attack from happening.
Why would we wait until after the terrorist attack has occurred in
order to stop that individual from buying a gun? It is too late at that
point.
This bill includes provisions to get off that list if you are not on
it, so it is perfectly observant of our tradition of supporting the
rights of law-abiding citizens to buy and purchase a weapon. But to
suggest that the only pathway to stopping an individual from buying a
weapon is a criminal prosecution when we know there are people right
now in the United States who are in contact with radical ideologies and
may be contemplating attacks against the United States misunderstands
the way in which we are going to prevent future terrorist attacks from
happening in this country.
This notion that those of us who want to change the law in order to
better protect Americans are capitalizing on a tragedy is ridiculous
and it is insulting, frankly. There are a lot of people who say: Well,
when it comes to guns, you can't talk about policy changes right after
a mass shooting.
On average, there has been a mass shooting every single day in this
country. If you had to wait 24 hours or 48 hours to talk about
strategies--such as preventing terrorists from buying guns--that would
keep this country safe after a mass shooting, then you would never talk
about ways to keep this country safe because every day there are mass
shootings separate and aside from the 80 people who die each day from
the drip, drip, drip of gun violence all across this country.
I don't think any of us mean to suggest, as the Senator from Texas
said, that those who oppose this bill, which is supported by three-
quarters of American gun owners and 90 percent of Americans, are
rooting for terrorists to get guns. That is not what I am saying. What
I am saying is that those who oppose this are more concerned with
protecting the rights of potential terrorists than they are with
protecting this country. That is what we are talking about.
We are worried about the rights of people on the terrorist watch list
more than we are about taking steps to protect this country. What we
are talking about is a temporary inconvenience. If somebody is on this
watch list who shouldn't be--and it is a very small number--then
through this legislation they have a means to get off that list. They
have to wait a couple of days, maybe a couple of weeks, in order to buy
a weapon. A tiny number of people who are inconvenienced is the cost;
protecting the country from a potential terrorist attack is the
benefit. That is a trade that my constituents would take in a
heartbeat.
I am sorry that we aren't able to proceed with debate on this bill,
but I think I can speak for my colleagues that we will be back on the
floor in the days, the weeks, and the months to come to continue to ask
for a vote on simple legislation to make sure that potential terrorists
cannot get their hands on dangerous life-ending weapons.
I yield the floor.
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