[Congressional Record Volume 161, Number 176 (Monday, December 7, 2015)]
[Senate]
[Pages S8430-S8431]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]




                              GUN VIOLENCE

  Mr. DURBIN. Madam President, I rise to speak about the devastating 
impact gun violence has on our families and our communities across 
America. Every day in America, we have a staggering amount of gun 
violence. On average, 297 people are shot in America each day, and 89 
of them die. On a typical day, there are 31 murders and 55 suicides by 
gun, as well as several accidental shootings. And every day, on 
average, 151 Americans are shot and wounded in an assault and 45 are 
accidently shot but survive. We have had over 350 mass shootings in 
America just this year, meaning incidents where at least four people 
are shot, and we have had over 50 incidents this year where guns have 
been fired at a school--50 at a school.
  These statistics are sobering and a call to action. Most shootings in 
America have become so routine, they don't even make the news. Sadly, 
many Americans believe this staggering level of violence is just a 
normal day in America. But in recent weeks, horrific mass shootings at 
a Planned Parenthood office in Colorado Springs, CO, and a holiday 
party in San Bernardino have brought the issue of gun violence back 
into the forefront.
  After high-profile mass shootings, we often hear the gun lobby and 
their political allies say: Any effort to pass a new gun law is just 
politicizing a tragedy. They say: We don't need any new gun laws; what 
we really should do is enforce the laws on the books. We saw this 
dynamic play out just last week. The day after the San Bernardino 
shooting, the vast majority of Senate Democrats voted for an amendment 
by Senator Feinstein to close the loophole that lets suspected 
terrorists buy firearms in America. The vast majority of Senate 
Republicans voted no. Senate Democrats also voted overwhelmingly for a 
bipartisan amendment offered by Senators Manchin and Toomey. This 
amendment would close the loopholes that allow guns to be sold without 
background checks either on the Internet or at gun shows. Again, the 
Senate Republicans overwhelmingly voted against a background check to 
keep firearms out of the hands of convicted felons and mentally 
unstable people.
  Make no mistake--the whole world saw what happened last week in San 
Bernardino, and the whole world now knows that people who want to 
commit acts of mass violence or terror in the United States sadly have 
easy access to an arsenal of guns. There are major loopholes in the 
laws on the books.
  This is a serious vulnerability, and Americans know we need to 
address it. The risk of terrorist-inspired mass shootings like Paris 
has never been higher. What are most effective ways to guard against 
this vulnerability? Well, I thought those two amendments we considered 
last week were a good start. Won't we agree--even those who own guns, 
value them, use them for sport, hunting, or self-defense--won't we 
agree that keeping guns out of the hands of convicted felons and 
mentally unstable people is the starting point? I think we should.
  The ATF did a review of the crime guns that were seized in the 
highest crime areas in the city of Chicago. They found out that 40 
percent of the guns used in the commission of crime in some of the 
deadliest precincts of Chicago came from northwest Indiana gun shows. 
Why? Well, because you don't go through a background check if you buy 
from certain people at a gun show. So the thugs, the drug gangs, the 
drive-by shooters--all they have to do is take the Skyway over the 
border into Indiana, go to one of those gun shows, fill their trunks 
with guns, firearms, and ammunition, and drive back for a killing spree 
in Chicago. There are no background checks. Does that make sense?
  When they say, ``Well, you know, it is a shame they have so much gun 
violence in Chicago because you know they have some of the strictest 
laws on the books,'' well, those strict laws don't apply when you cross 
the State line into Indiana. Sadly, those laws don't apply as they 
should across the United States.
  So we called the amendment on the floor, a bipartisan amendment. 
Patrick Toomey of Pennsylvania and Joe Manchin of West Virginia--
neither one of them liberal by self-definition--have come forward and 
said--Joe Manchin said: I learned a long time ago that if you want to 
own a gun in West Virginia, in my family, you didn't sell it to a 
stranger, you didn't sell it to a criminal, and you certainly didn't 
sell it to someone who was mentally unstable. He said that is just 
common sense. Well, it is common sense that escaped the support and 
attention of the Senate Republicans. They voted against that provision 
overwhelmingly, against background checks to keep firearms out of the 
hands of convicted felons and those who are mentally unstable. How 
would you explain that? Well, it might be easier to explain that than 
to explain the other amendment they voted against.

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  Listen to this one. If our government, in their investigation, comes 
up with the name of a person they believe is involved in terrorism and 
they put them on a no-fly list so they can't get on an airplane, guess 
what--they can still go to a licensed gun dealer in America and buy a 
firearm.
  These mad people in San Bernardino had AR-15s, semiautomatic and 
automatic weapons. They weren't on a terrorist watch list that I know 
of or a no-fly list, but if their names had been on a list, it wouldn't 
have slowed them down one bit in making a purchase.
  So Senator Feinstein of California offered this amendment, an 
amendment which had previously been offered by the late Senator 
Lautenberg of New Jersey repeatedly. Senator Feinstein took up his 
cause and brought this amendment to the floor for a vote last week in 
Washington.
  I went back and looked at the Congressional Record to see what the 
objections were of the people who said they had to vote against the 
amendment which would say if you are on a terrorist fly list, you 
cannot purchase firearms or explosives in the United States. I read 
some of the statements that were made by the senior Senator from Texas. 
In his argument against this, he said:

       If you believe the Federal Government should be able to 
     deprive an American citizen of one of their core 
     constitutional rights without notice and an opportunity to be 
     heard, then you should vote for the Senator's amendment.

  The Senator from Texas continued:

       This is not the way we are supposed to do things in this 
     country. If you think that the Federal Government never makes 
     a mistake and that presumptively the decisions the Federal 
     Government makes about putting you on a list because of some 
     suspicions, then you should vote for this amendment.

  So as far as he is concerned--and I suppose those who joined him in 
voting against this amendment--if your name is on a terrorist watch 
list in America as somebody we suspect is involved in terrorism, you 
start off by presuming the government must be wrong and the government 
has to prove it. You start off, in their position, by saying that the 
first thing we should do is let that presumed terrorist buy a gun and 
then let's have a due process hearing. What? What is he thinking? If 
you thought there was a dangerous person in your city or your community 
who might engage in terrorism, would you want them to buy an assault 
weapon? Would you want them to buy explosives? I wouldn't.
  Let's err on the side of safety and security and say: No, if you are 
on that list, you cannot purchase a weapon or an explosive. If you 
protest being on the list and don't think you belong there, so be it. 
That is your right. You are entitled to a process to get your name off 
the list, and the Feinstein amendment provides such a process. And if 
you prove that our government is wrong, then proceed with buying the 
gun or the explosives.
  But the presumption on the other side is that you are always entitled 
to buy a gun, you are always entitled to buy explosives, and if the 
government says otherwise, they have to prove it. It doesn't sound like 
a recipe for safety in America, but that is what happened on the floor 
of the Senate.
  So we called this measure, and there were 45 who voted yes and 54 
voted no--45 to 54 on whether someone on the terrorist watch list 
should be able to be prohibited from buying firearms and explosives.
  There has been a lot of tough talk lately about terrorism, this 
dozen--13, 14; I forget the number--running for President on the 
Republican side. They are trying to out trump one another and get 
tougher with terrorists. Yet when the moment came on the floor of the 
Senate and the Republicans in the Senate--including three or four 
running for President--had a chance to vote to keep firearms and 
explosives out of the hands of suspected terrorists, they voted no. How 
does that make us any safer? Oh, they are tough as can be in their 
speeches, but when it comes down to their votes, they are nowhere to be 
found.

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