[Congressional Record Volume 161, Number 156 (Friday, October 23, 2015)]
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CRITICAL ISSUES FACING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under the Speaker's announced policy of
January 6, 2015, the Chair recognizes the gentleman from Texas (Mr.
Gohmert) for 30 minutes.
Mr. GOHMERT. Mr. Speaker, it has been an interesting day and an
interesting week. I was in here listening to the colloquy between
Majority Leader McCarthy and the minority whip.
I had heard my good friend, a very intelligent, clever, witty friend
from Maryland, Mr. Hoyer, indicate that Republicans bring us to the
brink time and time again, talking about, I guess, the debt ceiling.
Sometimes it is just good to stop from the rhetoric here and the
lines like ``bringing us to the brink,'' and it is really good to look
at what the history of the situation is.
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Until Newt Gingrich led with the Contract With America, Republicans
recaptured the majority in the House and Senate, for the first time in
40 years, the Democrats kept bringing us to the brink. It didn't matter
who was in the White House. The Democratic Congress kept bringing us to
the brink, spending more and more money.
We thought it was a great deal of money. They kept bringing us to the
brink. It seemed so irresponsible not to be interested in trying to
have a more balanced budget. There would be people like Phil Gramm,
with the Gramm-Rudman law, that tried to force a balancing.
In fact, I know the President will probably in weeks to come continue
the mistaken rhetoric. He is such a nice guy, but he is so often
mistaken or whoever puts those mistakes in his teleprompter.
But the fact is that, repeatedly, this requirement that Congress
raise the debt ceiling if more debt is to be incurred has been used as
a vehicle to get laws passed that tried to rein in the irresponsible
spending that has been going on for many decades.
I believe it was Morgenthau, Franklin Roosevelt's Secretary of
Treasury, who wrote in 1940: After 8 years, we have spent more money
than anyone ever in history, and we have nothing to show for it but
more debt. That was quite an admission, that the New Deal was a total
failure, and it actually was.
It wasn't until World War II actually ended the Depression in America
that we came out of the Great Depression. It was certainly none of the
socialist policies that the United States began engaging in.
I know just since I have been here in January of 2005, in 2006, as I
recall, we were having debate. Republicans were in the majority. My
friends, Mr. Speaker, on the Democratic side of the room over here were
repeatedly making the point about how irresponsible it was for
Republicans to be spending--I think at the time it was around $160
billion--more than we were bringing in to the Federal Treasury.
I agreed. Actually, we should have balanced the budget back in 2005
and 2006. We were only $160 billion, at one point, away from doing
that.
I think that was part of the reason the Democrats continued beating
up on Republicans for overspending what was coming in, $160 billion or
so.
Little would I ever dream that, after being pummeled verbally by my
Democratic friends, as a Republican spending $160 billion more or so
than we had coming in, that those same friends would do the unthinkable
and increase that debt in one year more than 10 times the $160 billion.
You would have thought that perhaps they would remember some of those
things they used to say with such vitriol right here on the House floor
about how spending more than $160 billion more than we were taking in
was so irresponsible.
You would have thought they might have remembered some of those
because, when you say one thing one year and then you get the majority
and you are 10 times worse than what you accused the other side of--
more than 10 times worse--some people feel a little sensitive.
We have to be careful because we certainly don't want to violate the
House rules on what we say here. But, you know, some people feel guilty
when they accuse somebody else of doing something they are 10 times
more guilty of.
But, apparently, that guilt didn't exist. If it did, it was short
lived and didn't prevent even my friend from Maryland from coming to
the floor today and again launching the inappropriate statement that it
is Republicans that keep bringing us to the brink.
I realize that it was our own Speaker that went on the Jay Leno show
and said that Republicans shut down the government, but, you know,
sometimes he is engaged in activity that keeps him from realizing
exactly what is going on.
But if you go back and look at the actual Record, September 29,
September 30 of 2013, the record is very clear. There was one party in
Congress that was trying to be responsible, that was trying to rein in
spending, that was trying not to shut the government down, was
compromising against ourselves repeatedly, and it was the Republican
Party.
We didn't get a lot of help across the aisle. In fact, what we had
from the other end of the hall here, from Majority Leader Reid, was an
all-out effort to shut down the government. And that is a fact as to
who shut down the government. If anyone bothers to go look, yes, you
will see we had a spending bill that gave Harry Reid everything he and
the President wanted plus some.
It was hard for a guy like me to vote for that. But, yes, in the
initial bill, we defunded ObamaCare. Why wouldn't we? We know. We hear
from constituents how bad that is, how they have lost their insurance,
lost their doctor, they can't get the medicine they did before. Instead
of paying $105 now they are paying $100 for prescriptions. We are
hearing all those things. So why wouldn't we vote to do what we believe
is best for our constituents? We did.
We voted to fund everything they wanted plus some, but defund
ObamaCare. Yes, that is what we passed first. Harry Reid would not
bring it to the floor for a vote. So we compromised against ourselves
because there was no negotiating.
I believe--and, Mr. Speaker, this is just my thought--it sure seemed
there was plenty of evidence to show that Harry Reid believed the
conventional wisdom here in Washington, that if
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there were a shutdown of the government, no matter who did it, no
matter that the Democrats themselves did everything they could to shut
the government down, it wouldn't matter because their friends in the
mainstream media would blame the Republicans.
Who knew we would have a Republican Speaker that didn't know the fact
and would say, yeah, Republicans shut it down, but they knew the
mainstream media would blame Republicans. And they needed a shutdown
because the conventional wisdom here in Washington at the time--still
is--if there is a shutdown, then mainstream media blames Republicans
and then the Democrats get the majority back in the House or, if they
didn't have it, as they don't have it now, they get it back in the
Senate. So they have been wanting a shutdown.
You can go back to, I think, March of 2011. Harry Reid would not
yield at all when we got down to a midnight deadline, and our Speaker
came in and basically caved just a few months after we took the
majority in March of 2011 and said we have got to avoid a shutdown at
all costs.
So around 10:30, 11:00, Republicans completely caved and gave Harry
Reid what he wanted because he wanted a shutdown. You could say that is
bringing us to the brink for political purposes. That is exactly what
it is.
So we came back, and we bet against ourselves. We passed a bill that
gave Harry Reid everything he and the President wanted plus some, but
we put in a provision, not the complete defunding of ObamaCare, but
just suspending it for a year.
I frankly thought that, because there were Democrats on the ropes in
the Senate, if they wouldn't even vote on that or voted against it,
they would lose their seats.
I bet you could find some Senators who lost their seats in that next
election that wish they had taken that vote and voted to postpone
ObamaCare for a year. They probably would have kept their seats. But
they didn't. They didn't even get to vote on that bill on the Senate
floor.
I thought it was unwise. Having negotiated big deals back in Texas, I
thought it was unwise to bet against ourselves yet again when the
Senate would not even engage in any kind of compromise. They wanted a
shutdown. But, no, we had another vote.
We said: Okay, Harry Reid. We will give you everything you want,
President Obama everything he wants, plus a little bit. But since the
President suspended the employer mandate illegally, unconstitutionally,
for a year, how about if we suspend the individual mandate for a year?
That was not allowed to come to the floor for a vote.
Even though we were doing everything we could to keep the government
going, Harry Reid wanted a shutdown, would not allow a vote. I thought,
at 1:10 a.m., when our leadership came here to the floor on October 1
and asked us to vote for folks to be conferees that would work all
night and avoid a shutdown by 8 a.m., capitulate where they have to,
but get a deal done, that it was really capitulation and that Harry
Reid would be crazy not to go ahead and appoint Senate conferees so
they could have a deal by 8 a.m., the country would never realize there
was even an 8-hour shutdown. But Harry Reid would not even allow the
Senate to vote to have conferees to work out a deal by 8 a.m. He
didn't.
So Harry Reid forced the shutdown, no doubt with encouragement of the
President. Sure enough, the mainstream media blamed Republicans. That
cost Republicans tremendously in the election the following year. Oh,
wait. No, it didn't, actually.
The American people actually, I think, ended up appreciating that
Republicans were standing for the idea that we are on the brink because
of all the decades of overspending, except for that little interlude in
the 1990s when the Republicans took the majority here in Congress.
As part of their Contract With America, they became very responsible,
and they pushed through budgets that Bill Clinton didn't want to sign,
but eventually took credit for, that actually brought the budget into
alignment. Other than that, Democrats have brought us to the brink
repeatedly, and Harry Reid and President Obama continue to do that.
So who would have ever dreamed in 2006 that here in 2015 we would
have Democrats crowing over the fact that: Gee, we may get our deficit
in 1 year down to $400 billion, $500 billion. Wow, won't that be great?
Because, once again, their memories have not allowed them to accuse
themselves back during those days when they were blaming Republicans
for running up a $160 billion or so deficit in one year.
Now, my friend from Maryland also pointed out that Dave Camp had a
tax reform bill, and in his words it was dismissed out of hand because
it was not paid for. My friend, Mr. Hoyer, is such a smart guy. I
admire him. I love talking to him. He has got a great sense of humor.
But he is wrong on that. It happens. He is wrong.
It was not dismissed out of hand because it was not paid for. It was
dismissed out of hand because it was not a significant enough reform in
the right direction of what we need: a complete simplification of the
Tax Code that so many of us are asking for.
I like a flat tax. Others like a fair tax. I sure can see their
point. It has got some good points. But let's have that debate. Throw
out the Internal Revenue Code. Throw out the tens of thousands of pages
that have been added in interpretation and regulation. Let's have
something that Americans can simply fill out easily where they don't
even need an accountant, something like a flat tax: the more you make,
the more you pay.
Dave Camp's tax reform bill--and I just love the guy. He is a fine
American. We were so thrilled when he was able to beat back the cancer
that overtook him. He is a great guy. He worked hard.
But, in my estimation, his problem on his tax reform bill was he
tried to placate too many Democrats, which kept it from being as good
as I and many others thought it should be.
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So I appreciate the points being made here on the floor, but I
thought it called out for a little elaboration and correction.
Now, we also had a hearing yesterday that went on for a number of
hours. It was an important hearing, and I know there were people that
kept talking about, gee, there have been seven hearings or eight
hearings or whatever there have been, or seven or eight investigations.
None of them had the documentation that is now only starting to be
obtained from a recalcitrant State Department and Obama administration.
Yeah, it is easy to get an okay when you don't turn over the
documents that show lie after lie, misrepresentation. Yeah, it is easy.
All you do is just not let anybody see the documentation for the
misrepresentation that came.
Now, my staff says you have got to read this article, and it uses the
L word a number of times--the L word being ``lie.'' It uses that a
number of times. But I don't want to even come close to getting in
trouble for violating any rule here on the House floor because the
content is too important. So we will just say, instead of lies, we will
just call them unfortunate wrong statements, so with that substitution.
Then I find out, gee, it is my friend, Ben Shapiro, that wrote this.
I hope that doesn't hurt Ben that I mentioned we are friends.
But anyway, ``Hillary Clinton's 5 Biggest Unfortunate Mistaken
Representations in Her Benghazi Testimony,'' in the article, it points
out:
``Hillary, as always, is the poor, put-upon victim of a vast right-
wing conspiracy.''
Mr. Speaker, I know you will remember back in the nineties when her
husband was accused of doing things that it turned out he really did;
instead of making clear her husband had made mistakes--and she had made
it clear there would be no more--she went after the women. She had a
war on women and went after any women who actually accused her husband
of impropriety, and even used and coined that phrase, ``this vast
rightwing conspiracy'' during her war on women who just tried to point
out what her husband had done to them.
But the article says:
``She set up a private email server and deleted relevant emails from
it for purely political reasons; she pressed for a pointless invasion
of Libya for political reasons, chortled at its conquest for political
reasons, watched it descend into chaos while doing nothing
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for political reasons, and then allowed her ambassador to twist in the
Libyan tornado without proper security for political reasons; finally,
she covered up that disaster by lying about its causes for political
reasons. But those who ask questions about such matters are partisan
politicians.''
The article goes on further down:
``Hillary kept claiming that she cared deeply about her good friend
Chris Stevens. At one point, she whipped out her pre-planned righteous
indignation to complain, `I would imagine I've thought more about what
happened than all of you put together. I've lost more sleep than all of
you put together.' This was salt in the wound, the equivalent of Johnny
Cochran lamenting his worries over the fate of Nicole Brown Simpson.''
I have got to inject at this point, I was there for a good bit of the
hearing because a friend, a real patriot, she served in the Navy, that
is where she met a guy named Ty Woods, one of the greatest American
patriots this country could ever hope to have as a son. She married Ty.
They had even had another child right before--not just months before--
he found himself in Benghazi.
And another former Navy SEAL, like Ty, that cared more about his
country and serving others than his own self-interests came and joined
him, as I understand, when Ty was getting ready to go to the roof to
try to protect those people. He knew David Ubben, with the State
Department, was formerly an Army Ranger, and David went with him,
grabbed an M4. They went to the roof to protect the Americans that were
in the building beneath them.
I will never forget reading the name of the first Navy SEAL that this
administration released, and the story--obviously, this language had to
come from this administration--it struck me as such a slap in the face
to this former Navy SEAL, because I have known so many Navy SEALs and
former Navy SEALs. I am proud of every one I have known--well, maybe
except for a former Governor, who is creating chaos for Chris Kyle's
widow.
But when I read the words, after Glen Doherty, a former Navy SEAL,
contractor, and it said, from the information released from this
administration, that he died while taking cover.
Now, I didn't know anything about Benghazi at that point, about the
specifics, but I knew enough Navy SEALs to know, if he died, it wasn't
taking cover. It was probably giving cover or maybe moving to get a
better vantage from which to defend other people. Those are the Navy
SEALs I know, generally speaking.
Then we find out he didn't die taking cover. Ty Woods didn't die
taking cover. I don't know if that was the State Department's release
to try to minimize how heroic those people were because they violated
orders and said: We are going to help those people that are penned down
in Benghazi. Those are heroes.
I know my friend, Duncan Hunter, had moved to try to get a
Congressional Medal of Honor. I think it is time we take those back up.
Though they weren't in the military, they deserve the highest honor
this body could give them posthumously.
And David Ubben, I never brought it up during the months that he had
asked me not to after I met him on one of my visits out to Bethesda, or
Walter Reed combined with it now. But he was up there on the roof.
There were three mortars that came in. The first one missed.
Having been in the Army 4 years, I know they used to teach us, if
there are three mortars or three artillery rounds coming in, then you
better move before the fourth one hits, because they will use those
three to triangulate your position, and the fourth one will be on top
of your head.
So when I heard David said there had been three mortars come in, I
said: Oh, so they bracketed you. He said: Oh, no, no, no. I don't want
you to get the wrong idea. We knew as soon as the first one missed,
they knew exactly where our position was. It was short, but there was
no question, they knew exactly at what angle to put that mortar so that
it would come down on our heads. And that's what the second and third
mortar did.
There was no bracketing. They knew their position. Pre-planned
attack. They had the coordination perfectly, exactly where that mortar
needed to be.
The first one was short, as he said, but the second and third were
right on top of their targets. And that is what killed Glen and Ty as
they were giving cover--not taking cover, giving cover.
In fact, I heard yesterday--it wasn't in the hearing, wasn't said in
the hearing, but I heard from somebody who had talked to a Delta Force
individual. When he heard the name Ty Woods, he said: You know, that
guy, he and Glen took on a whole city.
They didn't care. They were going to protect the United States civil
servants that were in the building that they went to the roof of, and
they gave their lives giving them cover.
David Ubben lost much of his right leg, but, after many surgeries,
hopefully it is near the point now of being usable. He is a hero. This
administration didn't even want to give him the right credit.
And then to have them--and Ben Shapiro points it out here. They used
this video, and even to say to any one of the survivors, as Mrs.
Clinton did: We will get the guy that did the video.
They didn't care about the video. I have talked to many of the family
members of those who were killed. They didn't care about the guy that
did the video. They cared about the people that killed their loved one.
Dorothy Woods is a hero. So, for Mrs. Clinton to sit there and
arrogantly, condescendingly say to the panel, ``I've lost more sleep
than all of you put together,'' with Dorothy Woods sitting right there,
was just another dagger to her heart because she still loses sleep.
Let's go back to that night. We still don't know what Hillary Clinton
and our President did specifically after they found out. Either the
President was preparing for his fundraiser in Las Vegas the next day,
or he just went to bed, with his personal Ambassador to Libya missing.
Either they went to bed or did something far more embarrassing for them
not to be willing to tell us what they did that night.
I mean, I was only in the Army 4 years, but I cannot imagine what
kind of mind will allow itself to go to sleep or just blow things off
and move on to another project when somebody working directly for you
has either been killed, you know people have been killed, and the
Ambassador is missing in a hostile area that, turns out, begged for
security, additional security 600 times.
This is disgraceful, just disgraceful. They had nothing to do with
the video.
My friend Jim Jordan said: You tell the American people one thing;
you tell your family an entirely different story.
And, in fact, she told the Egyptian Prime Minister the day after the
attacks: We know the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film.
It was a planned attack, not a protest.
As I recall, not only was that simply not true, she took State
Department funds, as I understand it, and spent tens of thousands of
dollars on a commercial to facilitate and to perpetuate this lie, and
spent that in foreign Muslim countries, running it on their televisions
to say we had nothing to do with the video.
Mr. Speaker, I meant to get into the fact that I haven't changed my
vote for Speaker. I am still for Dan Webster.
I yield back the balance of my time.
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