[Congressional Record Volume 161, Number 121 (Wednesday, July 29, 2015)]
[House]
[Pages H5660-H5664]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
10TH ANNIVERSARY OF HURRICANE KATRINA
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under the Speaker's announced policy of
January 6, 2015, the Chair recognizes the gentleman from Louisiana (Mr.
Richmond) for 30 minutes.
Mr. RICHMOND. Mr. Speaker, I want to just thank my colleagues from
Louisiana for also talking about the devastation that we received in
hurricanes, both Katrina and Rita, which we call the ``sister
hurricanes'' because they were only separated by a couple of days and
what damage that Hurricane Katrina caused. Just a few days later,
Hurricane Rita came right behind it and exacerbated that damage.
Let me just hit on a few of the misperceptions of Katrina. Well,
actually, since I have had a little time and I want to make sure that
everyone involved has a chance to have time to speak on this, I yield
to the gentleman from Mississippi (Mr. Thompson), my good friend, who
at the time was chair of the Homeland Security Committee, who made sure
that some of the deficiencies in FEMA and some of the other places that
caused us undue headaches during the rebuilding, that those headaches
were relieved a little bit or eased a little bit because of the hard
work of Bennie Thompson, whose State also incurred some damage.
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Mr. THOMPSON of Mississippi. I appreciate the gentleman from New
Orleans for yielding.
Mr. Speaker, I rise for two reasons--one, to talk about what it is to
be in the eye of a hurricane and to be without basic necessities for
over 10 days because of a hurricane and, two, what it is that our
government should do when those situations occur at the Federal, State,
and local levels.
In my comments, initially, I will talk a little bit about what
happened in August of 2005--how, in fact, so many people were impacted
as well as what we have done as a government, what we didn't do, and
what we should do in going forward.
As the gentleman from Louisiana has said, for the most part, both
Hurricanes Rita and Katrina ravaged Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi,
Alabama, and a little bit of Florida, but I will limit my comments to
Katrina. In Hurricane Katrina, there were over 1,800 people--from
Florida to Texas--who died.
In my home State of Mississippi, 238 individuals died. Basically,
what we had after that is over 1.2 million housing units damaged, and
in my home State, almost 120,000 were completely destroyed. In southern
Mississippi, that meant that over 60 percent of the single family
dwellings were either destroyed or rendered uninhabitable, and the
statistics were worse for rental units. Along the Gulf Coast--the
beautiful Gulf Coast where we have the largest manmade beach in the
United States--there were over 1 million people displaced. One month
after the storm, 600,000 families were still homeless, and, ultimately,
114,000 were housed in FEMA trailers.
Mr. Speaker, I don't have to tell you what happened with the FEMA
trailers. It was a mess. The government's
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response to the temporary housing situation could only be characterized
as a mess. We fixed it, but during that time, we put people in trailers
that had basically been pieced together and shipped to the good people
of the Gulf Coast. Many of them had Chinese drywall in those trailers
that let off formaldehyde, which, ultimately, impacted the health of
everybody we put in the trailers, ostensibly, for temporary housing. We
created a bigger health problem.
Obviously, we passed legislation to address some of it in terms of
the health costs and other things. Ultimately, a lawsuit provided some
relief to the families. What we have done in correcting that temporary
housing situation is to direct FEMA to not just be the response and
recovery agency. We want you to also understand that, when people are
in trouble, not only do you come, but you come with the right resources
to make sure that you don't create and make life worse for them. After
our Katrina experience, we have a more nimble operation, and we have
far better individuals who are trained so that, when disasters come, we
can respond.
The problem that I have goes back, Mr. Speaker, to the comments that
a speaker on the other side made.
When you are in a disaster, whether it is a hurricane or a flood or a
tornado, the last thing you want is for somebody to ask, ``Well, who is
going to pay for it?'' These are citizens of the United States of
America. The only thing we should say is, ``In your darkest hour, in
your time of need, your government will not let you down.'' I would
hope that people understand that we are a great nation because we take
care of all of our people, especially when the chips are down and when
they have no other place to turn. So I would hope that we would not
talk about issues of deficit spending when people are being plucked off
the roofs of their homes or when they are being dislocated hundreds of
miles from their residences simply because they can't get back into
their neighborhoods.
What I also want to talk about is the fact that, since Katrina, we
have made sure that first responders can communicate with each other.
There were a number of stories about individuals who wanted to help but
who couldn't talk to each other. Hopefully, we have started fixing that
interoperability issue so that those individuals can communicate with
each other, whether they are paid firemen, volunteer firepersons, or
whether they are law enforcement at the State, county, or local level,
because, when we are involved in any natural disaster that is federally
declared, the constituents who need our help don't want us to get
bogged down in the territories. They just want the help. Part of the
help is making sure that these individuals can communicate with each
other.
We had nonprofit organizations. The Red Cross, most specifically, was
severely criticized because of its response to Katrina. A substantial
number of citizens who were impacted were in low-income, minority
communities, and we started getting responses such as: ``We don't know
what to do in those areas''; ``We are afraid to go in those areas.''
Yet, if you are part of the national preparedness system, you go and
help; you don't try to qualify that help. Part of that agreement we
have with an organization like the Red Cross is that you will do
better, that you will respond when other organizations don't have the
capacity.
We are continuing to work on the Red Cross' response to natural
disasters in this country. Sometimes they do a good job, and sometimes
they don't. What we have to do is make sure that, every time they
respond, they respond in a manner that is helping someone. Regardless
of people's socioeconomic statuses in life, they are still American
citizens. I look forward to continuing to work on that.
The other thing we have to work on, Mr. Speaker, is in making sure
that the moneys that are sent to the devastated areas don't get
diverted to other areas.
In my home State of Mississippi, our Governor at the time diverted
over $600 million, which was directed to low- and middle-income housing
problems, to a port expansion, which had nothing to do with housing,
but the flexibility to do it was there. We had a number of people who
lost everything they had, and they didn't have any means to come back.
The moneys that we sent from Washington to attempt to make those
individuals whole and to reintroduce them to the communities from which
they had been displaced had been sent to the Port of Gulfport. It is a
worthy project, but you shouldn't have to take moneys to do that which
were intended by Congress to go for low- and middle-income housing.
As of this date, the requirements for that money still have not met
the satisfaction of not only the HUD officials, but also of members of
the communities. We should not take moneys in times of emergency and
fund pet projects. If those projects are worthy to be funded, then
let's fund them out of traditional sources and not out of emergency
sources. I am concerned that we do that.
I want to pay a special tribute to the Mississippi Center for
Justice, which has done a wonderful job in pursuing the expenditure of
these funds consistent with the intent of those funds. I want to pay a
special tribute as well to the Mississippi Conference of the National
Association for the Advancement of Colored People. They have provided
witnesses and testimony at hearing after hearing as well as
documentation about the questionable expenditures around Hurricane
Katrina.
As I said in the beginning, as one of those individuals who
experienced Katrina firsthand, our government has to step up and help
these people in their time of need. What we have done in the last 10
years is to attempt to fix everything that we have identified that
didn't work. We have solved our interoperability problem. We have
provided training for first responders. We have provided evacuation
routes for individuals so that they know how to leave as well as routes
for vulnerable populations or whether they are handicapped in some
form. We have even created opportunities so that pets won't be left
alone when evacuations occur. All of those things are very important
because it goes to who we are as a people. So how we treat the least of
them in their most desperate hours goes to the character of who we are
as a nation.
As we mark this 10-year anniversary of Katrina, Mr. Speaker, I want
us to understand that it is still a work in progress and that it
doesn't matter whether you live in a house on a hill or if you live in
a house around the corner that is at a dead end--you are still an
American citizen. When things like a Hurricane Katrina happen, you
should rest assured that your government will be Johnny on the spot.
As I step back from my microphone, I want to compliment the gentleman
from Louisiana for leading this Special Order, because we should really
understand how difficult Katrina has been for those individuals who
were in the brunt.
Let me also take a point of personal privilege to talk about the good
job that the men and women of the United States Coast Guard did in
response to Katrina. They really did a tremendous job in working and in
managing a lot of the recovery and response to Katrina.
In August 2005, nearly ten years ago, Hurricane Katrina made landfall
in Mississippi and ravaged the Gulf Coast.
The storm pummeled everything in its path.
Over 1800 people from Florida to Texas died, including 238 from my
home State of Mississippi.
After what felt like an eternity, the storm died down.
We inventoried our losses, and the painfully slow recovery process
began.
1.2 million housing units were damaged, and 120,000 were completely
destroyed.
In Southern Mississippi, more than 60 percent of single-family
dwellings were destroyed or rendered uninhabitable--and the statistics
were worse for rental units.
Along the Gulf Coast, over 1 million people were displaced.
One month after the storm, About 600,000 families were still
homeless, and ultimately 114,000 were housed in FEMA trailers.
The recovery process was slow and wrought with mistakes at the
Federal, State, and local level.
At the Federal level, chain-of-command and coordination failures
complicated the quick and efficient delivery of Federal resources,
undermining both response and recovery efforts.
Opportunities to pre-stage important resources were missed.
Interoperable emergency communications challenges and lack of
qualified, well-trained, and well-funded emergency response personnel--
capability gaps first identified during
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the response to the September 11th attacks--persisted.
Ineffective and underdeveloped disaster housing and disaster
procurement policies dragged out recovery efforts and drove up costs.
States appeared to lack capacity to drawdown Federal recovery funds
quickly or effectively.
For example, my home state of Mississippi was awarded $3 billion in
Katrina related infrastructure grants, but by January 2009, it had only
drawn down a little over half of those funds ($1.7 million).
FEMA allocated $156 million in hazard mitigation grant funds to
Mississippi, but the State had only drawn down $40 million two-and-a-
half years after the storm struck.
My governor at the time diverted $600 million in CDBG funds initially
intended for the construction of low and middle income housing to a
port expansion project.
Parts of southern Mississippi are still feeling the impact of that
ill-advised decision to this day.
In the aftermath of the storm, Congress overhauled the national
emergency management infrastructure by enacting The Post Katrina
Emergency Management Reform Act, or PKEMRA.
The legislation sought to address preparedness, response and recovery
gaps identified through oversight activities carried out by this
Committee, including:
(1) apparent uncertainty regarding who had authority to coordinate
and direct response and recovery efforts under the National Response
Plan;
(2) ineffective coordination of Federal, state, local, private sector
response and recovery efforts;
(3) inadequate Federal coordination of preparedness planning,
including lack of effective evacuation and temporary housing plans to
meet the needs of all of those in a community;
(4) lack of operable and interoperable communications to support
response and recovery efforts; and,
(5) lack of effective emergency alert and warning systems to notify
the public of potential threats to health and safety.
Nationally, we have made progress on addressing these gaps.
For example, we have saved lives by getting people out of danger's
path with the Integrated Public Alerts and Warnings System.
Our planning and exercise programs have improved relationships among
Federal, State, and local responders to facilitate quicker, more
effective response and recovery efforts.
And we have honed the national doctrine on preventing, protecting
against, mitigating the effects of, responding to, and recovering from
natural and manmade disasters.
But significant challenges with long term recovery efforts remain.
For example, the Federal government's failure to have adequate
disaster housing plans in place before the storm struck resulted in
last-minute scrambling to find long-term recovery housing for the
displaced.
We ended up with botched FEMA trailer contracts that cost taxpayers
millions of dollars, and ultimately provided Hurricane survivors with
formaldehyde-laced dwellings.
A class action lawsuit from 55,000 Gulf Coast Residents against over
two dozen mobile home manufacturers was finally settled for over $42.5
million in 2012.
Despite this difficult lesson, as we saw in 2012 after Hurricane
Sandy, developing viable disaster housing options for regions across
the United States continues to be an elusive goal.
Although we have made progress on achieving interoperability, gaps
continue to hinder effective responses.
Despite the horrific loss, survivors demonstrated inspiring
resilience.
And the American people proved once again their commitment to helping
those affected by disaster by sending resources and flocking affected
areas to aid recovery.
Over the past decade, Gulf Coast residents, with Federal support and
the help of volunteers from across the country, have rebuilt much of
what was lost.
I would be remiss if I did not mention the important work of the
Mississippi Conference of the NAACP and the Mississippi Center for
Justice.
Both of those organizations traveled to and opened offices on the
Coast to offer legal services to the thousands of Gulf Coast area
residents who needed an advocate to help make them whole.
Notably, they filed a lawsuit on behalf of community groups and
individuals against the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban
Development resulting in a landmark settlement of $132 million dollars
for low-income households in nine Mississippi counties.
The Mississippi Center for Justice has continued to spearhead
numerous Federal and state policy battles to demand and restore safe
and affordable housing to Hurricane Katrina's most vulnerable
survivors, including thousands of children.
The Hurricane Katrina recovery, in many respects, has become a story
of American perseverance and generosity--and I am glad we are here to
commemorate and honor it this evening.
Mr. RICHMOND. I thank the gentleman.
Mr. Speaker, let me inquire as to how much time I have remaining.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Hardy). The gentleman has 17 minutes
remaining.
Mr. RICHMOND. Mr. Speaker, before I get into some of the
misconceptions and perceptions that still remain from Katrina, let me
just finish where the gentleman from Mississippi left off.
In its aftermath and the rescue and recovery, one of the shining
stars during Hurricane Katrina was the United States Coast Guard. They
did a phenomenal job, both day and night, in rescuing people with
helicopters and boats and everything at their disposal. They didn't
care if they were tired, and they didn't care if they were hungry. They
just did the job that they should have done just like most of our
servicemen. They were the shining stars.
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I mentioned earlier that one of the perceptions that is just
inaccurate about Katrina was that it was a natural disaster. It is not
just me who will call it a manmade disaster.
In 2009, Judge Duval ruled that the Federal Government was liable for
the damage related to MRGO because the canal's original purpose was
navigation. That decision was affirmed, and then it was overturned by
the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit.
However, on May 1, 2015, a Federal claims judge, Susan Braden, ruled
that the Army Corps of Engineers is liable for damages resulting from
flooding during Katrina again and that the damage caused in both St.
Bernard Parish, which is not in my district, and the lower Ninth Ward
of New Orleans, which is in my district, was that the Army Corps of
Engineers was responsible and liable for the damage caused to their
homes because the Coast Guard was responsible for the increased storm
surge and flooding during Hurricane Katrina and that the Army Corps
knew that their failure could have that effect.
So Judge Braden has ordered that the Federal Government, more
specifically, the Justice Department, enter into settlement
negotiations with the attorneys of those residents in both the lower
Ninth Ward and St. Bernard Parish. I would just continue to urge the
Federal Government to step up to do that because it is the right thing
to do.
Some of the other things that I just want to spend a quick moment in
correcting are that, after the storm, there was violence in the streets
and people were shooting at the rescue boats. That was just absolutely
untrue.
As I tout the success of the Coast Guard, I have to now question and
criticize the effort of both the Red Cross and our National Guard.
In the days after Katrina, there were Red Cross buses on the side of
the highway that lined from New Orleans all the way to Baton Rouge
because the buses were scared to go into New Orleans because it was
dangerous.
The Red Cross and the National Guard had 18-wheelers and military
trucks full of water that were designated to go into New Orleans, but
they were on the side of the interstate opposite the buses because they
thought it was too dangerous to go into New Orleans.
Well, Mr. Speaker, I just want to tell you, while the National Guard,
the Red Cross, and others were scared to go into New Orleans, I myself,
with another council member, Oliver Thomas at the time, was driving a
minivan into New Orleans filled with water with no security, no
protection, and the only thing we encountered were grateful people who
were looking for some help, some water, some food, and some direction
as to how and when this recovery would start.
What I don't want is people to look at New Orleans and remember back
to those days and just believe the misinformation about all of those
other things.
While I am correcting that, let me also touch on why people didn't
leave. Many people have said people just chose not to leave for various
reasons, they didn't know better. All of that is absolutely untrue,
also.
The biggest reason people didn't leave was that the warnings were
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and they were not enough notice. I remember watching the news and
watching the mayor of New Orleans say: Well, I am sending my family to
Dallas. If I were you, I would evacuate.
Well, in moments like this, you need stern warnings and you have to
be blunt.
I was on the conference calls where FEMA and Red Cross said that they
were sending 10,000 body bags. We knew this was the real one. It was
the time to show leadership and tell people to leave the city in no
uncertain terms.
I remember having a conference call with Governor Blanco in which she
talked about all of these things, along with the Red Cross and FEMA.
By the time that it was my turn to talk, I said, ``Governor, I
understand that this is the real deal. However, there are 1,500 people
across the street from my house playing Little League. They don't get
the benefit of hearing what you just said on this conference call.''
It was later that day and the next morning that people pushed, but it
was only a day out from the storm.
And then we never talked about the expenses associated with
evacuating once or twice in the city, packing your family up, driving
to another city, paying for a hotel, feeding your family, and then
coming back.
When that happens over and over again and they were false alarms, if
you don't give them the stern warning when you know it is the real one,
you know some people won't leave.
The last part of it is we came up with a bad idea of using shelters
that were in harm's way. We had thousands of people in the Louisiana
Superdome that is located in New Orleans. Well, the Superdome was right
in harm's way.
One of the other perceptions--and you actually heard it tonight--was
that the new New Orleans has a great school system that has turned
around education in this urban setting, and the truth of the matter is
it is a work in progress at best.
The State came in and took over most of our schools, all but maybe
five or six of them. Out of those 57 schools that they took over, seven
are B schools, no A schools, 20 are C schools, and 24 are D and F
schools.
We still have some work to do in the area of education. We have made
some improvements, but we have kids now that are being bused and
staying on the bus almost 2 hours to get to a school in the morning and
2 hours in the evening. That is not a system that we want.
Our good schools don't have attendance zones, and it has become a
maze in order to apply and to get into our better schools.
Those are things that can be fixed if everybody is willing to come to
the table and figure out the best way to do it and not look at everyone
who has suggestions or criticisms of the school system as being an
enemy.
Public education: Even if you look at the Brown v. Board of Education
decision years ago, 50, 75 years ago, that decision came about because
the Justices talked about how an education is important to being a good
citizen, thriving, and being a success.
Because of that, we should spend more time in working to make sure
that the New Orleans public school system is a system that educates all
of the kids.
Whether you are Black or White, whether you are poor or rich, whether
you live in a great neighborhood or whether you live in a bad
neighborhood, every kid should have the opportunity to succeed.
The other thing that people see a lot now, whether we are hosting a
Super Bowl, the Final Four, or the Sugar Bowl, people assume that the
city is back because the areas that they cover on TV are the areas that
are back.
If you look at Canal Street, Bourbon Street, and all of those areas,
the Superdome, the New Orleans arena, they are back.
However, there are still areas that are not back. You still have
areas where homeowners are still struggling to rebuild.
You can look at the lower Ninth Ward. You can look at the upper Ninth
Ward. You can look at Gentilly. You can look at New Orleans East. Those
areas are still fighting to recover.
You can look at some of the complaints from homeowners when the Road
Home process was set up. They complain that they were fingerprinted and
treated like criminals during the application process in the onset of
asking for government assistance.
Remember, we are talking about homeowners, the most responsible
people in a community, being fingerprinted and treated like criminals
during the application process.
Also, the Federal Government prohibited grants exceeding the value of
a property. So Road Home tied its calculation to a home's prestorm
value as opposed to the actual cost of rebuilding.
So when you look at the 36,000 grant recipient collection letters for
alleged overpayments, duplication of insurance proceeds, or failure to
comply with the covenants, you see 36,000 people that are being
unjustly punished by the Federal Government.
I would just say that we said it very early on in the process, that
using appraised value was going to harm minority communities because an
appraisal is subjective, depending on where you live. So homes in the
more affluent areas of New Orleans appraised a lot higher.
I can just tell you, doing electrical work when I was small, doing
construction work, to rebuild a 1,500-square-foot house, whether it is
in Lakeview or whether it is in the lower Ninth Ward, Sheetrock,
plywood, screws, and nails are all going to cost the same. Instead of
using appraised value, we should have used rebuilding cost. That is
just not my opinion.
I will tell you that the Federal court ruled that the Road Home's
method of calculating grants discriminated against African American
homeowners. That was back in 2010.
The problem with that ruling was that, in order for the State to stop
using prestorm value to calculate Road Home grants, it was only for the
future grants. By that time, a majority of the grants had already been
given out.
So I will just tell you that that $62 million in additional grants
helped about 1,500 homeowners. Remember, we had over 100,000 properties
that were damaged in the storm. So you can see the abundance of people
that did not get assistance.
Some of the other remaining issues with Road Home was that we still
have people who need money to get back into their homes because they
have an unmet need.
HUD could have done something very simple to figure out where we are
now, and that is to figure out what people received from their
insurance company, what people received from FEMA, and what people
received from Road Home.
You add those up and then you figure out the cost to rebuild. If the
rebuilding cost exceeds those, that is the unmet need that we need help
from the government because there is money that is still available.
I would say we need the Federal Government to actually take some
time, investigate, and figure out how we can use the unused money to
make people whole that were not made whole in the beginning.
Also, let me bring up just one other thing so you can get a full idea
of the picture of New Orleans. If you just look at rent, in the 9 years
since Katrina, the share of people paying 50 percent of their income
for rent is now 37 percent.
So what you are really saying is that secure housing cost burdens 50
percent of household income, and that indicates a serious problem in
housing affordability.
In 2004, just to give you a reference, the share of severely cost-
burdened renters in New Orleans was 24 percent. Now it is 37 percent in
New Orleans. It is 26 percent nationally.
That is a problem and we really need to work on it because, if you
can't live in the city, you can't work in the city. This government is
better than that.
So the other thing I would just say is that people think we are back
and we are rebuilt, and that is not the case. The other thing is that
people think that we received everything we need to rebuild.
I would say that Congress, the government, and the President did a
great job in immediately sending down $14 billion to New Orleans and
putting it in a fund, which is unheard of in Congress, to take money
and just put it in a fund and say: Corps of Engineers, as you rebuild
the levee, spend this
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money, protect New Orleans. They did it, and they did a good job of
doing it.
We still have outlying areas that need flood control. If you look at
the cost of Katrina--and I will give you a few figures--you will see
that we still have a gap.
You had $150 billion in damages. Most of the Federal spending went
for relief, not rebuilding. $120.5 billion in total spending. Emergency
relief was 75 billion. Rebuilding funds was 45 billion.
So if you look at the Federal funding, private insurance claims, and
charitable giving, it still leaves a gap of about $60 billion. When you
talk about a gap of $60 billion, I just want you to understand what
that means.
That means, in every community, every neighborhood, including mine,
you will see five houses where people have come back, saved up money,
and rebuilt using both insurance, savings, retirement, FEMA, government
money. Then you will see a house or two that is not rebuilt at all.
Then if you go down to the lower Ninth Ward, you will see one house
that is rebuilt. Then you will see six or seven houses that are not
rebuilt where the grass is just as high as the trees and it looks like
a forest.
If you are that one homeowner that took the time to come home and
rebuild and you have to pass that every night, it is just not a safe
situation. We, as a country, can do better than that.
So what I would hope is that, as we continue the process of helping
New Orleans and Louisiana recover from Katrina, that we look at the
lessons learned and we find the people who still have unmet needs, we
find the people that are still not back in their homes who want to be
in their homes, and we figure out a way to help them.
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That is what HUD is for. We still have the money, and in fact,
citizens and community groups--and I can think of a bunch of them, A
Community Voice, Justice and Beyond--all of those groups have been
asking Congress and the inspector general to do an audit and an
investigation of how much funds we received, where did they go, what is
left, how do we move forward and make sure that everyone who wants to
come home has the ability to come home.
Now, all of those things and, I think, lessons learned and
misperceptions of Katrina, I think we have to take those same things
and look at Sandy and all other hurricanes.
What I wanted to do before we went home for a break and celebrate the
10th anniversary of Katrina is to let people know that we still have
needs; we still have things we have to do to complete the recovery, but
also thank Congress for what they did do.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
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