[Congressional Record Volume 161, Number 103 (Thursday, June 25, 2015)]
[House]
[Pages H4662-H4664]
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RAISING A QUESTION OF THE PRIVILEGES OF THE HOUSE
Mr. THOMPSON of Mississippi. Mr. Speaker, I have a privileged
resolution at the desk.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Clerk will report the resolution.
The Clerk read as follows:
H. Res. ___
Whereas on December 20, 1860, South Carolina became the
first State to secede from the Union;
Whereas on January 9, 1861, Mississippi seceded from the
Union, stating in its ``Declaration of Immediate Causes''
that ``[o]ur position is thoroughly identified with the
institution of slavery - the greatest material interest of
the world.'';
Whereas on February 9, 1861, the Confederate States of
America was formed with a group of 11 States as a purported
sovereign nation and with Jefferson Davis of Mississippi as
its president;
Whereas on March 11, 1861, the Confederate States of
America adopted its own constitution;
Whereas on April 12, 1861, the Confederate States of
America fired shots upon Fort Sumter in Charleston, South
Carolina, effectively beginning the Civil War;
Whereas the United States did not recognize the Confederate
States of America as a sovereign nation, but rather as a
rebel insurrection, and took to military battle to bring the
rogue states back into the Union;
Whereas on April 9, 1865, General Robert E. Lee surrendered
to General Ulysses S. Grant at Appomattox Court House in
Virginia, effectively, ending the Civil War and preserving
the Union;
Whereas during the Civil War, the Confederate States of
America used the Navy Jack, Battle Flag, and other imagery as
a symbols of the Confederate armed forces;
Whereas since the end of the Civil War, the Navy Jack,
Confederate battle flag, and other imagery of the Confederacy
have been appropriated by groups as a symbols of hate,
terror, intolerance, and as supportive of the institution of
slavery;
Whereas groups such as the Ku Klux Klan and other white
supremacist groups utilize Confederate imagery to frighten,
terrorize, and cause harm to groups of people toward whom
they have hateful intent, including African Americans,
Hispanic Americans, and Jewish Americans;
Whereas many State and Federal political leaders, including
United States Senators Thad Cochran and Roger Wicker, along
with Mississippi House Speaker Philip Gunn and other State
leaders, have spoken out and advocated for the removal of the
imagery of the Confederacy on Mississippi's state flag;
Whereas many Members of Congress, including Speaker John
Boehner, support the removal of the Confederate flag from the
grounds of South Carolina's capitol;
Whereas Speaker John Boehner released a statement on the
issue saying, ``I commend Governor Nikki Haley and other
South Carolina leaders in their effort to remove the
Confederate flag from Statehouse grounds. In his second
inaugural address 150 years ago, and a month before his
assassination, President Abraham Lincoln ended his speech
with these powerful words, which are as meaningful today as
when they were spoken on the East Front of the Capitol on
March 4, 1865: `With malice toward none, with charity for
all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the
right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind
up the nation's wounds, to care for him who shall have borne
the battle and for his widow and his orphan, to do all which
may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among
ourselves and with all nations.' '';
Whereas the House of Representatives has several State
flags with imagery of the Confederacy throughout its main
structures and House office buildings;
Whereas it is an uncontroverted fact that symbols of the
Confederacy offend and insult many members of the general
public who use the hallways of Congress each day;
Whereas Congress has never permanently recognized in its
hallways the symbols of sovereign nations with whom it has
gone to war or rogue entities such as the Confederate States
of America;
Whereas continuing to display a symbol of hatred,
oppression, and insurrection that nearly tore our Union apart
and that is known to offend many groups throughout the
country would irreparably damage the reputation of this
august institution and offend the very dignity of the House
of Representatives; and
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Whereas this impairment of the dignity of the House and its
Members constitutes a violation under rule IX of the Rules of
the House of Representatives of the One Hundred Fourteenth
Congress: Now, therefore, be it
Resolved, That the Speaker of the House of Representatives
shall remove any State flag containing any portion of the
Confederate battle flag, other than a flag displayed by the
office of a Member of the House, from any area within the
House wing of the Capitol or any House office building, and
shall donate any such flag to the Library of Congress.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The resolution presents a question of
privilege.
Motion to Refer
Mr. McCARTHY. Mr. Speaker, I have a motion at the desk.
The SPEAKER. The Clerk will report the motion.
The Clerk read as follows:
Mr. McCarthy moves that the resolution be referred to the
Committee on House Administration.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from California is recognized
for 1 hour.
Mr. McCARTHY. Mr. Speaker, all time yielded is for the purpose of
debate only.
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for bringing this resolution to
the attention of the House.
As I have said many times before, I am a big believer in the
committee process to discuss all issues that come before the floor,
especially one of this importance. I think this resolution should be
referred to the Committee on House Administration to give other Members
an opportunity to weigh in.
I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Mississippi (Mr. Thompson)
for the purpose of debate only.
Mr. THOMPSON of Mississippi. Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the gentleman
yielding the time.
Mr. Speaker, to someone who has lived his entire life in the State of
Mississippi and has had to endure a symbol that represented bigotry,
hatred, and everything this country is not, I am convinced that an
effort to remove this flag from the hallowed Halls of the House of
Representatives is the right thing to do.
We all know the history of the South. We know the secessionists'
motivations behind the Civil War, and my ancestors were those
individuals who were held in bondage against their will.
We are a Nation of laws. We should not identify with symbols of
hatred and bigotry. That flag, those symbols should be put in a museum.
They should not be flown under any circumstance where there is freedom
and dignity in this great institution of ours.
I know it is a hard choice for Members to do, but I saw what happened
in Charleston, South Carolina, last Wednesday. The whole world saw it,
and they did not like it. This is one step toward getting us healed as
a Nation.
I take it personally. I have had churches burned in my district. I
have had men and women killed for trying to do the right thing; yet,
when I see people trying to defend that way of life which that flag
represents, this is not who we are as an institution.
Because of that, I offer the privileged resolution. I understand
where we are with it, but I have issues with it.
I appreciate the gentleman yielding the 2 minutes.
I urge my colleagues to oppose the referral of this resolution to
committee.
Mr. McCARTHY. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman from
Michigan (Mrs. Miller), the distinguished chair of the Committee on
House Administration.
Mrs. MILLER of Michigan. Mr. Speaker, I certainly thank the majority
leader for yielding the time.
I would just say, Mr. Speaker, to my colleague from Mississippi, I
certainly was moved personally just listening to him speak now; and I
listened to him last night when he offered his privileged motion.
I would say that the Committee on House Administration is looking
forward to hearing more from Representative Thompson, as well as all of
the congressional delegation from the great State of Mississippi, on
this resolution. As well, our committee, of course, would want to have
an opportunity to hear from all of the elected representatives at the
State level of the great State of Mississippi.
We want to say that we sincerely appreciate Representative Thompson
for offering his privileged resolution and to assure the gentleman from
Mississippi, Mr. Speaker, that our committee will give this measure
every serious consideration and every thoughtful consideration.
Mr. McCARTHY. Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time, and I
move the previous question on the motion to refer.
The previous question was ordered.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the motion to refer.
The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that
the ayes appeared to have it.
Mr. THOMPSON of Mississippi. Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas
and nays.
The yeas and nays were ordered.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to clause 8 of rule XX, this 15-
minute vote on the motion to refer will be followed by 5-minute votes
on adoption of House Resolution 338 and the motion to suspend the rules
on H.R. 1615.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 240,
nays 184, not voting 9, as follows:
[Roll No. 385]
YEAS--240
Abraham
Aderholt
Allen
Amash
Amodei
Babin
Barletta
Barr
Barton
Benishek
Bilirakis
Bishop (MI)
Bishop (UT)
Black
Blackburn
Blum
Bost
Boustany
Brady (TX)
Brat
Bridenstine
Brooks (AL)
Brooks (IN)
Buchanan
Buck
Bucshon
Burgess
Byrne
Calvert
Carter (GA)
Carter (TX)
Chabot
Chaffetz
Coffman
Cole
Collins (GA)
Collins (NY)
Comstock
Conaway
Cook
Costello (PA)
Cramer
Crawford
Crenshaw
Culberson
Curbelo (FL)
Davis, Rodney
Denham
Dent
DeSantis
DesJarlais
Diaz-Balart
Dold
Donovan
Duffy
Duncan (SC)
Duncan (TN)
Ellmers (NC)
Emmer (MN)
Farenthold
Fincher
Fitzpatrick
Fleischmann
Fleming
Flores
Forbes
Fortenberry
Foxx
Franks (AZ)
Frelinghuysen
Garrett
Gibbs
Gibson
Gohmert
Goodlatte
Gosar
Gowdy
Granger
Graves (GA)
Graves (LA)
Graves (MO)
Griffith
Grothman
Guinta
Guthrie
Hanna
Hardy
Harper
Harris
Hartzler
Heck (NV)
Hensarling
Herrera Beutler
Hice, Jody B.
Hill
Holding
Hudson
Huelskamp
Huizenga (MI)
Hultgren
Hunter
Hurd (TX)
Issa
Jenkins (KS)
Jenkins (WV)
Johnson (OH)
Johnson, Sam
Jolly
Jones
Jordan
Joyce
Katko
Kelly (PA)
King (IA)
King (NY)
Kinzinger (IL)
Kline
Knight
Labrador
LaMalfa
Lamborn
Lance
Latta
LoBiondo
Long
Loudermilk
Love
Lucas
Luetkemeyer
Lummis
MacArthur
Marchant
Marino
Massie
McCarthy
McCaul
McClintock
McHenry
McKinley
McMorris Rodgers
McSally
Meadows
Meehan
Messer
Mica
Miller (FL)
Miller (MI)
Moolenaar
Mooney (WV)
Mullin
Mulvaney
Murphy (PA)
Neugebauer
Newhouse
Noem
Nugent
Nunes
Olson
Palazzo
Palmer
Paulsen
Pearce
Perry
Pittenger
Pitts
Poe (TX)
Poliquin
Pompeo
Posey
Price, Tom
Ratcliffe
Reed
Reichert
Renacci
Ribble
Rice (SC)
Rigell
Roby
Roe (TN)
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rohrabacher
Rokita
Rooney (FL)
Ros-Lehtinen
Roskam
Ross
Rothfus
Rouzer
Royce
Russell
Ryan (WI)
Salmon
Scalise
Schweikert
Scott, Austin
Sensenbrenner
Sessions
Shimkus
Shuster
Simpson
Smith (MO)
Smith (NE)
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Stefanik
Stewart
Stivers
Stutzman
Thompson (PA)
Thornberry
Tiberi
Tipton
Trott
Turner
Upton
Valadao
Wagner
Walberg
Walden
Walker
Walorski
Walters, Mimi
Weber (TX)
Webster (FL)
Wenstrup
Westerman
Westmoreland
Whitfield
Williams
Wilson (SC)
Wittman
Womack
Woodall
Yoder
Yoho
Young (IA)
Young (IN)
Zeldin
Zinke
NAYS--184
Adams
Aguilar
Ashford
Bass
Beatty
Becerra
Bera
Beyer
Bishop (GA)
Blumenauer
Bonamici
Boyle, Brendan F.
Brady (PA)
Brown (FL)
Brownley (CA)
Bustos
Butterfield
Capps
Capuano
Cardenas
Carney
Carson (IN)
Cartwright
Castor (FL)
Castro (TX)
Chu, Judy
Cicilline
Clark (MA)
Clawson (FL)
Clay
Cleaver
Cohen
Connolly
Conyers
Cooper
Costa
Courtney
Crowley
Cuellar
Cummings
Davis (CA)
Davis, Danny
DeFazio
DeGette
Delaney
DeLauro
DelBene
DeSaulnier
Deutch
Dingell
Doggett
Doyle, Michael F.
Duckworth
Edwards
Ellison
Engel
Eshoo
Esty
Farr
Fattah
Foster
Frankel (FL)
Fudge
Gabbard
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Gallego
Garamendi
Graham
Grayson
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Gutierrez
Hahn
Hastings
Heck (WA)
Higgins
Himes
Hinojosa
Honda
Hoyer
Huffman
Israel
Jackson Lee
Jeffries
Johnson (GA)
Johnson, E. B.
Kaptur
Keating
Kelly (IL)
Kennedy
Kildee
Kilmer
Kind
Kirkpatrick
Kuster
Langevin
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Lawrence
Lee
Levin
Lewis
Lieu, Ted
Lipinski
Loebsack
Lofgren
Lowenthal
Lowey
Lujan Grisham (NM)
Lujan, Ben Ray (NM)
Lynch
Maloney, Carolyn
Maloney, Sean
Matsui
McCollum
McDermott
McGovern
McNerney
Meeks
Meng
Moore
Moulton
Murphy (FL)
Nadler
Neal
Nolan
Norcross
O'Rourke
Pallone
Pascrell
Pelosi
Perlmutter
Peterson
Pingree
Pocan
Polis
Price (NC)
Quigley
Rangel
Rice (NY)
Richmond
Roybal-Allard
Ruiz
Ruppersberger
Rush
Ryan (OH)
Sanchez, Linda T.
Sanchez, Loretta
Sarbanes
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schrader
Scott (VA)
Scott, David
Serrano
Sewell (AL)
Sherman
Sinema
Sires
Slaughter
Smith (WA)
Speier
Swalwell (CA)
Takai
Takano
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Titus
Tonko
Torres
Tsongas
Van Hollen
Vargas
Veasey
Vela
Velazquez
Visclosky
Walz
Wasserman Schultz
Waters, Maxine
Watson Coleman
Welch
Wilson (FL)
Yarmuth
NOT VOTING--9
Clarke (NY)
Clyburn
Hurt (VA)
Kelly (MS)
Napolitano
Payne
Peters
Sanford
Young (AK)
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Mses. EDDIE BERNICE JOHNSON of Texas and DelBENE, Messrs. HASTINGS,
CLAWSON of Florida, SERRANO, and JOHNSON of Georgia changed their vote
from ``yea'' to ``nay.''
Messrs. FLORES and BURGESS changed their vote from ``nay'' to
``yea.''
So the motion to refer was agreed to.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.
Stated for:
Mr. HURT of Virginia. Mr. Speaker, I was not present for rollcall
vote No. 385 on H. Res. 341. Had I been present, I would have voted
``yea.''
Stated against:
Ms. CLARKE of New York. Mr. Speaker, earlier today, I was unavoidably
detained in a meeting with constituents and missed recorded vote No.
385. Had I been present, on rollcall No. 385, On the Motion to Refer
the Thompson (MS) Resolution to the Committee on House Administration,
I would have voted ``no.''
Mrs. NAPOLITANO. Mr. Speaker, on Thursday, June 25th, 2015, I was
absent during rollcall vote No. 385. Had I been present, I would have
voted ``no'' on the Motion to Refer the Thompson (MS) Resolution to the
Committee on House Administration.
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