[Congressional Record Volume 161, Number 98 (Thursday, June 18, 2015)]
[House]
[Pages H4538-H4540]
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WEEK IN REVIEW
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under the Speaker's announced policy of
January 6, 2015, the Chair recognizes the gentleman from Texas (Mr.
Gohmert) for 30 minutes.
Mr. GOHMERT. Mr. Speaker, we had an interesting vote today on the
trade agreement, and I know my friends at Club for Growth have scored
that.
They wanted people to vote ``yes'' because they believed, as some
have said, it is about free trade; but it is a bit ironic for those who
follow politics because, on the one hand, Republicans were being told
this will allow us to force the President to keep us apprised, to give
us notice of what is going on so that we can reign anything in that is
not helpful to the country.
I didn't have that impression of the bill, not when reading the TPA,
not going to the classified setting. I mean, I did that; I read the
TPP, most of it.
Having been a lawyer and a judge, prosecutor, done defense, a chief
justice, I have litigated a lot of loopholes. There are a lot of
loopholes in that TPP. There were loopholes in the TPA.
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One of my Democratic friends was telling me, Mr. Speaker, that he was
being told that the whole reason the President came up here is that, by
passing this trade agreement, it is going to allow the President to get
his agenda done in the next 18 months without Congress being able to
stop him.
Some of my Democratic friends prefer that Congress have more say than
that, and some were not happy with the proposal at all. They also were
smart enough to know there are a lot of American jobs that will be lost
because of that bill. I am not an isolationist. I believe in free
trade, but I don't believe in free rein for a President. I am afraid
that is what it will do, and that is why I had to vote ``no'' once
again.
But it passed, and now, we will see if what some of my Democratic
friends were told is accurate in that the bill will allow the President
to achieve his agenda without Republicans being able to stop him. It
appears that way to me, in reading the bills, that he has got enough
loopholes he can take advantage of.
Plus, even without loopholes, there is a requirement of notification.
He was required to notify us before he released anybody from
Guantanamo. He didn't do it. He went ahead and released five of the
worst murderers in return for a guy who is, we are told, about to be
charged with desertion.
The President doesn't seem to be bogged down by having to follow the
law, but I am impressed with my friends who think--but, yes--if we pass
one more law that makes him give us notice, after 6\1/2\ years of his
not keeping us apprised as the law requires, this time, we think he
really, really will.
I am impressed with that kind of optimism, even though the old
expression here in Washington is, no matter how cynical you get, it is
never enough to catch up. Sometimes, I think there is merit to that.
In any event, Mr. Speaker, there is an issue even far more important
than trade that is about to hit this country. It could create a
constitutional crisis of proportions that some of the Justices on the
Supreme Court can't imagine. Mr. Speaker, I blew up the law. This is
the law. It is not an ethical requirement.
I mean, having been a prosecutor, a defense--heck, I was even court-
appointed to appeal a capital murder conviction. I don't know how many
here on the floor have appealed a capital murder conviction. I begged
the judge not to appoint me, but he did anyway, and when I got into the
thousands of pages of records, I found out he had not gotten a fair
trial.
I fought for him in the highest court in Texas and got the death
penalty reversed. Some clients felt like I was a pretty good lawyer. I
was told before I went on the bench that I got the only jury verdict
against what was then the largest oil company in the world. I don't
know if it was or is. That is what I was told.
I know something about practicing law, and I know something about
being a judge. I know that, with any case in which the public would
suspect that I could not be impartial, I would have to recuse myself.
Sometimes, judges will just recuse themselves so they don't have to
make a tough call--I never did that--but there are times when you have
such a strong opinion about a matter that you have no business sitting
on that case.
Now, ethical requirements would insist that a judge conduct his
performance as a judge in such a way that it comports with the
requirements of the canons of ethics. However, this isn't an ethical
violation that would get you a letter from some bar president or from
somebody saying: We think you violated the canons of ethics.
This isn't it. This is United States law. This is the law of the
land. This is part A. Part B goes into some different possibilities
when a judge might have to recuse him or herself, but it is volume 28
of the United States Code, section 455, and section A doesn't have any
subparts to it like B does. B is, like I say, other examples where the
judge might have to recuse himself, but A is unequivocal.
``Any justice, judge, or magistrate judge of the United States
shall''--that is a ``shall''--``disqualify himself''--generic, male or
female--``in any proceeding in which his impartiality might reasonably
be questioned.''
This is not some model code of ethics. This is the United States law.
No one in the country, including on the United States Supreme Court, is
supposed to be above the law. As we have talked about, we have two
Justices who have performed same-sex marriages.
In fact, the article by Greg Richter, May 18 of 2015, is quoting from
Maureen Dowd in her article in which Maureen Dowd writes regarding
Justice Ginsburg: ``With a sly look and special emphasis on the word
'Constitution,' Justice Ginsburg said that she was pronouncing the two
men married by the powers vested in her by the Constitution of the
United States.''
Now, there is no question that Justice Ginsburg is biased,
prejudiced. She has her own opinion about this matter. She has had her
opinion about this. That was clear in the first same-sex marriage she
performed. For her not to disqualify herself is a violation of the law
of the United States; yet we are told that Justice Ginsburg is not
going to recuse herself, that she wants to be part of a majority
opinion.
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What happens when someone who is disqualified for sitting on a case
sits on a case anyway in order to use her partial, biased position to
bring about a majority opinion? It would certainly seem that that would
be an illegal act, not criminal--this isn't criminal law--but it is an
illegal act for someone to violate this law.
Then, of course, we also had Justice Kagan as mentioned in the fall
of last year, in September of last year, in The Hill, when Peter
Sullivan reported: ``'Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan officiated a
same-sex wedding on Sunday,' a court spokeswoman told the Associated
Press.
``The ceremony in Maryland for a former law clerk is the first same-
sex wedding that Kagan has performed. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and
retired Justice Sandra Day O'Connor have performed same-sex weddings in
the past.
``Gay marriage,'' the article reads, ``has been a divisive topic at
the Supreme Court as it has been elsewhere in the country.''
The article reads: ``The Court could decide as early as this month
whether to take up the issue again in the coming session, this time to
consider a more sweeping ruling declaring a right to same-sex marriage
across the country.
``Ginsburg said last week that, unless an appeals court allows a gay
marriage ban to stand, `there is no need for us to rush' on a Supreme
Court ruling.''
But they took the case up, and now, we are told they are going to
rule by June 30 of this month.
Clearly, Justice Kagan is disqualified. She has had a profound
opinion. It reads ``in which the impartiality might reasonably be
questioned.''
There are different standards of evidence in the law. Some States use
different burdens of proof. You can have more likely than not if it is
a group, like on a jury, one more than half. If there is a
preponderance of the evidence that it is more likely than not, then you
find that way.
Probable cause is an issue that has an evidentiary requirement. It
has got to be, probably, something is likely or has occurred, a
preponderance of the evidence. I mentioned that ``beyond a reasonable
doubt'' is what most criminal courts have before you can find someone
guilty. Evidence must be beyond a reasonable doubt. There are some
courts that use a standard called ``clear and convincing evidence.''
This United States law doesn't use any of those standards. It is a
very weak threshold before a judge or a Justice must disqualify
himself. He must disqualify himself. I hated the fact that Justice
Scalia, some years back, had to disqualify himself, but he had already
had an opinion expressed about, I believe it was, the Pledge of
Allegiance.
He could not be sure that it wouldn't end up as a 4-4 decision, which
meant the ninth circuit decision would stand, which struck down ``under
God'' in the pledge, as I recall, but he disqualified himself. Justice
Scalia followed 28 USC 455.
He disqualified himself because his judgment--his impartiality--might
reasonably be questioned. It appeared that he was partial, that he had
an opinion in the case, so he disqualified himself. That is acting in
accordance with the law.
Mr. Speaker, I keep coming back to this. It is a matter of a
constitutional crisis when the Highest Court in the land not merely
strikes down and says that their opinion is more important than Moses',
depicted up there in the center point of this room, more important than
Moses', depicted in the marble wall over the Supreme Court, holding the
Ten Commandments.
The Supreme Court says theirs is more important than the opinions
established and stated by Jesus Christ when he said--and he was quoting
Moses--that a man shall leave his mother and father, a woman leave her
home, and the two will come together and be one flesh, and what God has
joined together, let no man put asunder.
That is the law of God according to Moses. It is the law of God
according to Jesus. It is tough enough if you have a United States
Supreme Court which, back in the 1890s, said this is clearly a
Christian nation. Despite what any opinions may be, the evidence
established. This country was established as a Christian nation.
The great thing is that, if a nation is established on Judeo-
Christian beliefs, it allows anybody to live here and to function here
and to do so without impediment to one's beliefs because one can be an
atheist, an agnostic, a Buddhist, a Muslim.
You can be any of those things, as long as you are not trying to take
over the country like some would like to do.
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But otherwise, by basing a country on Judeo-Christian beliefs, we
have provided more freedom for individuals than any nation in the
history of the world. And yet we may have an ultimate crisis here when
a Court says our opinion is more important than God, if there is one,
more important than Moses, more important than Jesus. Our opinion is
not only more important than those people, but it is the law of the
land, and it is so important that our opinion count that we are going
to violate the law ourselves in order to force our opinion--clearly
what it is--our opinion on the United States of America.
I don't want anybody to be prejudiced against anybody else. I was
sick to my stomach this morning hearing about the shooting in
Charleston, South Carolina. This evil perpetrator killed my brothers
and sisters. We are brothers and sisters in Christ. Skin color does not
matter one bit. He killed my brothers and sisters.
I hope America joins me in mourning. I know the people on both sides
of this aisle do. At our prayer breakfast this morning, we prayed and
will continue to pray for the families of those who were lost. Those
Christians, we as Christians believe, as Jesus told the thief beside
him: This day you will be in paradise with Me. We believe they are
better off than any of us here in the United States or on Earth.
Because of their beliefs, we believe they are in paradise with Jesus
himself, with the Lord, but it is the terrible wake they leave behind
that is so tragic. State senator, from all accounts a good man, not
only a Christian brother, but a really good man, pastor. Three men, six
women. So our hearts go out to them. We don't want anybody to be
prejudiced against anybody.
But when it comes to the founding block, the foundation of any solid
society, it doesn't matter what relationships exist. It doesn't matter
who loves or is friends with whom. As a Christian, I think I can love
most everybody. There are a few it is kind of tough, but most
everybody. I have got some Democrats over here. I love them. They are
just wonderful people. They are wrong on issues, but I love them. They
are great folks. There is no animus.
But when it comes to the foundation of this Nation, the home, a
mother and a father, regardless of what other relationships may exist
between siblings, between anybody else, what matters is you don't
destroy the central building block.
I was intrigued when the Iowa Supreme Court back in 2009 didn't use
these words, but basically said there is no evidence in nature to
indicate a preference of a marriage being between a man and a woman. It
was clear the people of Iowa spoke--I love those folks. They were
awesome. They came out, and for the first time since the up-or-down
retention vote started, I understand, in 1960 or 1962 or so, they threw
out the judges that were up for reelection because the vast majority in
Iowa knew that is ridiculous.
Nature makes very clear that you start a family, whether you keep
both a mother and father, things happen. There are so many of our
greatest Americans have arisen from orphanages or from single-parent
homes, but still it doesn't get away from the optimum being nature says
you are best off if you have a mother and father. They can produce
children. Yes, you can adopt children, sure, but that is where nature
comes in and says, yeah, but the optimum is a mother and a father in a
home.
I know there are some who are involved in same-sex marriage. They are
not able to love as I do. They hate anybody that disagrees with them.
There are some that can love me, though we disagree. I hope that the
continued hatred that has been growing among some in the same-sex
community can be tamped down, but this is an issue that is foundational
to any society that is going to maintain strength,
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going to maintain viability for a long time into the future rather than
show we just crossed another milestone on our way to the dustbin of
history. This is something that is important to our society, to our
foundation. Let's love everybody. Let's use law enforcement to stop
those like the evil perpetrator in Charleston, like the leftwinger I
think it was in North Carolina that killed the Muslims. There is no
call for that. The man needs to go to prison. In Texas, we would say it
is a multiple murder. I would say you need to get the death penalty for
killing more than one Muslim. There is no place for that.
But again, when it comes to the optimum home, a loving mother and
father can procreate, adopt, but regardless of who agrees or disagrees,
this is going to be a civilization changer, and it is not going to be
for the better. We are going to continue our divisiveness and
destructiveness when the highest Court in the land has Justices that
say: My opinion is so much more important than the Bible, Moses, Jesus.
My opinion is so much more valuable that I am going to violate the law;
I am going to break the law so I can sit on this opinion, so the
country can have my forced opinion on it.
I know there are Christian leaders, some are ready to capitulate, but
there are some that won't. But we are now to the point, Steve King and
I and some others, addressed back when the hate crime bill was being
discussed, that we are going to lead to the point where you ultimately
persecute, eventually prosecute people because of their beliefs about
sexuality. People then were wrong because they couldn't see the future,
but this is where we have come.
Now, if you hold the same beliefs that David Axelrod says the
President didn't, but he said it in order to get elected, that a
marriage is a man and a woman, you hold that belief that most Americans
have held and still hold, that the Founders all held regardless of
their sexuality, they believed a family, marriage at least, was a man
and a woman, that that was foundational.
So I am not sure what is going to happen in this country. I don't
have that kind of crystal ball. But I know if we have two or three
Justices who are clearly disqualified, who have clearly indicated--not
only raised questions as to whether they could be reasonably questioned
as to their impartiality, they made clear they are very, very partial.
I don't know what happens, but it isn't going to be good at all.
Justice Sotomayor has made statements that indicate she has an
opinion before this case was decided. So, Mr. Speaker, I hope scholars
will look carefully at this and they will understand, if Supreme Court
Justices violate the law in order to change the law dramatically, as
they want to do, is that a valid law? I don't believe it is. If they
break the law in order to make the law, it is a void law. They need to
recuse themselves and let an impartial group on the Court make the
decision. It should be left to the States anyway.
It is probably sufficient grounds for impeachment for a Supreme Court
Justice to violate the law so that they can force their will upon the
American people to push through their legislative agenda even though
they are not legislators. Probably impeachment would be in order. If
they break the law in order to change dramatically the law, they
shouldn't be on the Supreme Court.
It is my hope and prayer they will do the legal thing, recuse
themselves before the Court makes its final decision with regard to
marriage. If they don't, they will go down in legitimate American
history books as being exceedingly destructive, and history will note
that they violated the law in order to change the law so that it would
be the way they wanted, not with a constitutional amendment, not
through a legislative process, not by a constitutional convention that
article V provides for. They just had the feeling that they wanted to
tinker with over 200 years of law and foundational societal structure
and force America to abide by their legislative agenda. Again, I just
can't get over that.
If they don't disqualify themselves, they will violate the law to try
to change the law with the agenda they have made clear that they have.
So, Mr. Speaker, I hope Americans will join me in not only hoping, but
praying that their hearts will be touched, that they will decide not to
act illegally, that they will be moved toward acting lawfully,
disqualify themselves, and let us get a proper opinion from the Supreme
Court.
I yield back the balance of my time.
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