[Congressional Record Volume 161, Number 95 (Monday, June 15, 2015)]
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THE PEOPLE'S NIGHT
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under the Speaker's announced policy of
January 6, 2015, the gentleman from North Carolina (Mr. Walker) is
recognized for 60 minutes as the designee of the majority leader.
General Leave
Mr. WALKER. Mr. Speaker, before I begin, I ask unanimous consent that
all Members may have 5 legislative days in which to revise and extend
their remarks and include extraneous materials on the topic of my
Special Order.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the
gentleman from North Carolina?
There was no objection.
Mr. WALKER. Mr. Speaker, tonight is a night about accountability,
about taking responsibility. Many of my colleagues that will speak here
tonight were sent by districts of people who wanted to hold this
government accountable in both the fiscal and social arenas.
I think back today, though it was unplanned, on June 15, 1775, 240
years ago this very day, George Washington accepted the position as
commander in chief of the Continental Army.
Washington was serving in the Second Continental Congress as a
delegate from Virginia when his peers voted unanimously to hand him the
reins of the entire Revolutionary Army.
About 100 paces from where I am standing, on the back of these
Chambers, standing in the Capitol's rotunda is the history of how
America was birthed into existence. It is displayed through the most
glorious artwork.
Of all those paintings in the rotunda, I am most intrigued by John
Trumbull's work on Washington submitting his resignation in 1783, after
completing his assignment, through struggles and severe setbacks, more
than 8 years after accepting the position.
Now, while some of these paintings depict those of conquests or
discoveries, this particular work captures the great character of
Washington. You see, Congress had granted Washington the powers
equivalent to a dictator; yet the humility and the wisdom of Washington
understood that, for a republic to survive, it must be held accountable
by the people.
His resignation that day stated this:
I resign with satisfaction the appointment I accepted with
diffidence or a lack of self-confidence in my own abilities
to accomplish so arduous a task which, however was superceded
by a confidence in the rectitude of our cause, the support of
the supreme power of the Union, and the patronage of Heaven.
You see, Washington had resolved that a citizen-ruled government,
though different than others in the past, had a chance to do something,
to be something, something exceptional. Two hundred and forty years ago
today, Washington laid the cornerstone of freedom through
accountability to the people with a unique blessing from the divine
power of Heaven.
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That is why we have assembled tonight, to talk about what
Washington's vision was: a citizen-ruled government that would hold the
Federal Government and this administration accountable.
Tonight I would like to introduce the chairman of the House Oversight
and Government Reform Committee, a committee that I am privileged to
serve on, someone who has been a champion on government oversight.
I yield to the gentleman from Utah (Mr. Chaffetz).
Mr. CHAFFETZ. I thank the gentleman for yielding.
And I thank those who are with us tonight because this topic is one
of, I think, the most important to our Nation. It certainly was key to
the foundation of this Nation.
And the gentleman from North Carolina (Mr. Walker) is right, because
if you go back and you read that farewell address that Washington gave,
it is one of the most inspirational pieces. He had the power. He had
the position. He had the respect of the people. But he did probably the
most admirable thing that we have seen in this Nation, in that he
voluntarily gave it up because he knew that the power didn't reside in
the President. He knew that the power didn't reside in him, as an
individual. He understood that the power of this Nation stood with the
people. And with that power comes a responsibility. It is a
responsibility that all of us hold, as citizens of the United States of
America. For it is truly a privilege and an honor to be a citizen in
this country.
I hearken back a couple hundred years ago to those who blazed new
trails and decided that this Nation was going to be an inspired nation,
inspired by God, that we weren't bashful about recognizing that God
played a role in our lives and that the power of prayer was an
important part of our Nation.
But also incumbent upon that was that every man, woman, and child--
every able-bodied person--do their part, that we all had accountability
and responsibility not only to take care of ourselves but to also do
what we can to help foster a greater community.
You see, this was a new idea. It wasn't that way across the world.
There were dictators, and there were others that really wanted to rule
and control people. But the inspiration that our Founders had in the
foundation of our Nation was rooted in this idea that the people--the
people--had the power.
Fast-forward now to those who serve--whether they serve in the armed
services, whether they serve in the Federal Government or the State
government or wherever they might serve, it should be a recognition
that we serve the American people, that we serve them.
So as we look at all the issues that face us--whether we are going to
spend money, whether we should pass this bill or not--let's remember a
couple of things.
And I would mention this to the gentleman from North Carolina (Mr.
Walker) because I know he knows this. And I know it. But I want my kids
to know it.
As we look at things we do in Congress, as we look at the men and
women who serve our Nation, most do it in a very admirable way. They
are patriotic. They are hard-working. They care about this Nation. But
we have some that don't really meet that standard. And it is probably
most fair, most humane, most decent that we hold people to a high
standard.
One of the things I want my kids to understand about government,
about life in general, is that when they talk about the government and
they talk about the Federal Government, it is really interesting. We
will have this happen in our committee from time to time. We will say,
well, whose money is it? And they will say, well, it is the
government's money.
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No, it is not. It is the people's money.
You see, every time we decide to spend money in Congress, what we are
really deciding is, should we pull money out of somebody's pocket--
should we pull money out of your wallet, take it over here, and hand it
to somebody else?
Now there are some worthwhile causes for doing that, right? There are
some worthwhile things to do: the protection of our Nation, for our
armed services. I buy that. I get that. But we are spending far too
much money on too many things. We can't be all things to all people.
So going back to my original premise here, as I try to teach my own
kids and try to remember myself, we have to be exceptionally
responsible stewards of these assets and resources that aren't ours.
They are an individual's.
For you see, at the heart of this, it is something that I think
President Washington understood: that the most powerful thing upon our
Nation is the power of the people, and it is their own self-
determination that should rule the day. You limit their self-
determination the more you regulate them and the more you pull that
money directly out of their pockets and give it to somebody else.
Now, there is room for regulation. There is room for certain things
in the public good. But I tell you, most of what happens, most of what
goes on in Washington, it is far too much. It is excessive. And we have
to remember at its core that accountability and responsibility for
those of us who are fortunate enough to serve in a public role is
imperative, but it is also imperative that each individual takes upon
themselves their own accountability and their own responsibility.
As able-bodied men and women, children, you have got to pull your own
weight. You have got to carry your own bucket. You have got to do what
you have got to do not only to help yourself but to help your
community, your friends, and loved ones as well.
And that is the heart of what I think the gentleman from North
Carolina (Mr. Walker) brings to this body. I know he cares about it
passionately. It is what we are here talking about tonight. There are a
host of examples where we are not holding people accountable, and we
want to change that. I hope we are able to talk about that a bit
tonight. But for the moment, I would say to the gentleman, thank you
for allowing me to participate.
Mr. WALKER. Thank you, Chairman Chaffetz. We are going to talk about
some specific egregious behavior.
It wasn't long that I was here and serving with Chairman Chaffetz on
the House Oversight Committee that we were requested to meet with the
inspector general of the EPA. It was in that moment, only weeks after I
had arrived, that here we have an inspector general, a gentleman
appointed by the President, who had reached out to us in his tireless
efforts to even so much as to get the EPA to respond. The arrogance
that stems from that agency has been grossly misused and abused.
It is my privilege tonight to acknowledge one of my North Carolina
colleagues to talk specifically more about the Environmental Protection
Agency. With that, I yield to the gentleman from the Charlotte, North
Carolina, area, Mr. Hudson.
Mr. HUDSON. I thank you for your strong leadership here in Congress.
Often a new Member of Congress comes to town and spends a little bit of
time learning the ropes, maybe sitting in the back row observing, but
that is not true of Mark Walker. Mark Walker has quickly become a
leader in Congress and particularly on issues such as this.
Tonight is the people's night. Government accountability is the
topic.
I thank the gentleman for bringing up the issue of the EPA. We had a
hearing Friday in the Energy and Commerce Committee, on which I serve,
in which we had the acting assistant administrator who oversees the
Clean Air Act. We were looking at this new proposed rule that the EPA
has put out having to do with ground-level ozone.
Now in 2008, the EPA issued a rule that brought the levels of ground-
level ozone down to 75 parts per billion. Based on that number, many
counties in North Carolina and across this country were out of
attainment.
Everyone wants clean air. Everyone wants clean water. Even those of
us who are concerned about jobs know that if you don't have clean air
and clean water, you can't attract industry, and you can't have
businesses grow in your community. But you have to look at the real
science, and you have to look at the real numbers. And the truth is,
since 1980, we have cut ground-level ozone levels 30 percent in this
country. We have done a tremendous job, and that has been driven by
industry.
This new rule was issued in 2008, but the instructions to States
weren't issued until March of this year. So in March of this year, the
EPA finally told the States how to comply with these new levels of 75
parts per billion. But now they have come out with a new rule that
says, we are going to drop that to 65 or maybe even 60. If that is the
case, every county in North Carolina--except one county in western
North Carolina--would be out of attainment.
So what does that mean? That means you can't have a road project. It
means you can't build a new home. It means you can't add any jobs to
any existing industry. It means you can't bring any new industry into
the State. And they are doing this at a time when we haven't even
implemented the old rule, when we have already cut ground-level ozone
30 percent.
So what I would say is, let's wait and look at the science. Let's
look at the real health impacts. Let's see what the results of the
current regulations are before we rush out with some new regulations
which we are told could cost as much as 270,000 jobs in North Carolina.
I have seen a figure of 1.3 million jobs in the country. Before we
bring on this cost, before we threaten these jobs, before we basically
shut down all growth and development, let's take a look at the actual
science.
So this is just one example of one agency that is overreaching. We
have got other examples. You have got the IRS using ``the dog ate my
homework'' excuse to duck responsibility. We have also got the
Department of Veterans Affairs failing to provide adequate care for our
heroes.
When he established the VA, President Abraham Lincoln promised that
our Nation would take care of our men and women in uniform and their
families who have served and defended our country.
Mr. Speaker, it is an understatement to say that today, the VA is
failing and falling extremely short of that promise that President
Lincoln made. Our soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines have endured
traumatic experiences on the battlefield and should not have to
continue to fight to receive proper care when they return home.
Make no mistake, there are many good and dedicated people at VA
medical facilities across the country who do a tremendous job every day
caring for our veterans. In fact, many of the folks working at VA
facilities are veterans themselves. The problem is, the bureaucracy has
gotten so massive and so out of control, the resources are wasted and
the quality of care delivered to veterans has decreased.
This culture of unaccountability has led to long wait times, 10,000
disability claims still in backlog, and millions of our tax dollars
wasted. Our veterans are being ignored and tragically, in some cases,
left to die.
It was George Washington who has been talked about by my colleague.
Mr. Walker mentioned the anniversary of him resigning his commission.
George Washington said: ``The willingness with which our young people
are likely to serve in any war, no matter how justified, shall be
directly proportional to how they perceive how the veterans of earlier
wars were treated and appreciated by their Nation.''
Mr. Speaker, I know we will continue our efforts to reshape the
culture at the VA, but it is high time this administration takes
responsibility and joins those of us who want to give veterans a
choice.
Every veteran in this country should have the choice to go to any
doctor of their choosing, and the VA should not have to preapprove it,
and the VA should pay for that medical care. That is the proposal that
I have talked about. I think that is the way that we could finally end
these wait times, and we can break down these backlogs.
I call on the administration to work with us. It is time for the
people to have accountability from their government. It is time for our
veterans to
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have accountability from the VA. They put everything on the line for
our country, for our freedom. It is time for us to do the same.
God bless our veterans and their families. It is time to get to work.
Mr. WALKER. Thank you, Representative Hudson, for the passionate
remarks regarding our veterans.
It is a shame, the abuse that we see sometimes of the veterans. But
there has probably been no greater abuse than that of our own Internal
Revenue system. With 75,000 pages, 8,000 pages that have been added
under this administration, we can see why abuse and corruption exist.
What better person to speak on that than an economics professor. So I
now yield to the gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Brat), a new Member of
the Congress.
Mr. BRAT. Thank you, Mr. Walker.
Mr. Speaker, earlier this month, more details emerged about the IRS'
targeting of conservative groups, where the agency tried to extort
information on donors, find out what Members talked about at their
meetings and probe into what Members did in their very free time.
We learned this month that the IRS had set up yet another roadblock
to prevent Congress and the American people from getting to the bottom
of this scandal.
The IRS established a team of hundreds of lawyers to redact
information from the documents Congress had requested for its
investigations. This obstruction makes me extremely concerned for every
American who voices political beliefs that don't agree with this
administration's, whether they are conservative, liberal, green,
religious, or agnostic.
I am grateful for the organization in my own district that exposed
this scandal to the American people. The Richmond Tea Party was the
first in the country to go public with the IRS' abuse. Once it was
exposed, conservative groups from all over the country came forward and
revealed that they were victims of the same IRS tactics.
The IRS specifically targeted groups with ``Tea Party'' and
``patriot'' in their names because of their political positions. The
IRS targeted them for increased scrutiny, and it delayed processing
their applications for nonprofit status.
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Let me go over that again just real slowly so the American people
understand what is going on here.
The Tea Party group, the T stands for ``taxed enough already.'' They
are being targeted by the very government agency tasked with ensuring
fairness in our tax revenue collections system. The irony could not be
clearer. The groups were subjected to unprecedented and intimidating
questioning. The IRS demanded resumes of board members, lists of all
donors, and screen shots of blogs and social media posts to determine
if their speech was acceptable to the Big Brother government. The
agency asked some groups for minutes of every board meeting as well as
lists of positions they took on certain issues.
On April 15, 2009, thousands of average Virginians showed up to the
Richmond Tea Party's first rally in the pouring rain to stand together
against government run amuck and President Obama's promise to
fundamentally transform America. People became engaged--many for the
first time. After word of IRS targeting broke, people stopped coming to
meetings and stopped giving money for fear of being targeted
themselves.
It has been 2 years since the Justice Department opened its
investigation, and it has been 2 years of waiting as nothing ever seems
to happen. The IRS has tried to cover its tracks at every turn. It lied
to the public and to this Congress about its secret targeting program.
To this day, document requests submitted by Congress remain
unfulfilled. The IRS complained it had lost thousands of emails
belonging to Lois Lerner. Since then, the inspector general recovered
more than 6,000 of them. They were located where anyone would expect:
in the IRS data backup facility.
Congress held Lois Lerner in contempt after she claimed she knew
nothing about the targeting and refused to answer questions about it.
Yet the Obama Justice Department--the Justice Department--has never
prosecuted her. This all creates the frightening potential that we
could foresee a repeat of this very same behavior in the future. We
need this President and this administration to live up to their promise
of transparency rather than their practice of obstruction.
Mr. Speaker, we in Congress can put an end to this kind of
mistreatment of our citizens by passing a fair tax or a flat tax.
Either tax system would treat citizens more equally and would take away
the IRS' power to discriminate and investigate against Americans who
hold beliefs contrary to those in power.
Ladies and gentlemen, the right to express your political views is so
critical to the foundation of a free society that it is enshrined in
our First Amendment--the First Amendment. Our very freedoms and the
future of our constitutional form of government depend on the ability
of all Americans to freely exercise that right. That is why it is
incumbent upon this Congress to put forth every effort to protect that
precious right and to hold those who would infringe upon it accountable
to the fullest extent of the law.
Mr. WALKER. Thank you, Congressman Brat. I appreciate your shedding
light.
Mr. Speaker, this administration, from the very beginning, went a
long way in promising transparency and accountability. In fact, it was
President Obama himself who expressed: ``My administration is committed
to creating an unprecedented level of openness in government.'' In the
same speech, President Obama went on to say: ``Transparency promotes
accountability and provides information for citizens about what their
government is doing. Information maintained by the Federal Government
is a national asset.'' President Obama said: ``My administration will
take appropriate action consistent with law and policy to disclose
information rapidly in forms that the public can readily find and
use.'' Well, that is what he said, but it has been the exact opposite
for the Department of Justice.
Many of us have heard about Fast and Furious, and we may have time to
get to it. What I want to talk about tonight is Operation Choke Point,
and here to do that tonight is one of the strong conservatives in all
of Congress, my colleague from South Carolina, Mr. Mick Mulvaney.
Mr. MULVANEY. I thank the gentleman from North Carolina. I thank him
for doing this. I think it is wonderful that we are having a night
designated as the people's night. You would think that we would do that
just every day in here, but I think that more often than not we
probably don't, so it is good to be here to talk about things that
affect the people.
Some things that affect the people, Mr. Speaker, back where I live is
Operation Choke Point. Where I live, people buy guns at gun shows. They
use pawnshops. They might go to a payday lender every now and again.
They might go and buy ammunition. Because of what has happened in
Operation Choke Point the last year and a half or so, they are starting
to lose the ability to do that.
I want to explain to people very briefly what Operation Choke Point
is. This is not some rightwing conspiracy. It is not some Internet
myth. This has been acknowledged by the Department of Justice.
Several years ago, the DOJ, along with the FDIC, one of the banking
regulators, set out to attack legal businesses, businesses that were
perfectly legal and permitted under the law, but they were in disfavor
with this administration. Instead of trying to drive those businesses
out of business by using the law, this administration decided to use
the regulatory environment. Instead of going directly after those
businesses, this administration went after their banks and said:
Look, we know that this pawnshop is a legal business, and
we know that you have done business with them for a long
time, but we could really make your life difficult if you
continue to bank this particular pawnshop. In fact, your life
will be much easier if you didn't bank this pawnshop.
Time and again, Mr. Speaker, what we found was these small
businesses--a woman-owned business in my district--losing their banking
relationships. The banks that had 25-year relationships with them would
come to them and say:
Look, we simply can't bank with you anymore. It is too
difficult to do. There is too much pressure to stop.
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I had a woman-owned business, a pawnshop in my district. She tried to
expand the business so that the business was big enough to give to both
of her sons. She was a single mother. She wanted to get the business
big enough to where both boys could inherit part of the business. She
went to her local bank where she had more than a 20-year relationship,
and she was told that, no, that she was now too hot to handle. Not only
could they not give her a loan to expand the business, they had to pull
back on the services they already provided.
There is another business elsewhere in the State, a large financial
concern, and a little tiny piece of what they do is payday lending. You
can say what you want to about it, Mr. Speaker. You may not like payday
lending. A lot of people don't. But people use it, and people need it.
I will never forget when I was in the State legislature, we had a
hearing on payday lending. One of the witnesses that spoke before me in
the senate was an employee of one of the local credit unions. I knew
who she was. I walked up to her afterwards and said: You are here to
talk in favor of payday lending?
She said: Yes.
I said: But you work for a credit union.
She said: Yes.
I said: Why are you here?
She said: Because everybody in town knows who I am. I am having a
tough divorce, and I need a little bit of money. If I go to my local
bank or I go to my credit union where I work, everybody is going to
know about it. I don't want people to know about my business.
She needed that particular service. Folks need this service. It may
not be the proudest thing we do as a nation, but people need it.
This company in Greenville, South Carolina, had a little, tiny piece
of their business in payday, a 30-year banking relationship for all the
rest of their businesses. The bank came over one day and said: Look, we
are under a great deal of pressure. We are going to have to pull all
our relationships with you.
Maybe 5, maybe 2\1/2\ percent of their business was payday, and now
this large employer in my district is struggling to find financial
services.
It is so offensive, Mr. Speaker, that a couple of months ago, the DOJ
finally acknowledged that it was wrong, and they agreed to stop the
program. The FDIC agreed to stop as well. All I can tell you is that
while the letter went out saying it was stopped, we are still hearing
stories to this day that it is still going on.
My dad told me about a year ago, I had been here 3 years at the time,
and he started paying attention to politics after I got here. He said:
Do you want to know the difference, Mick, between government today and
government when I was your age?
I said: What is that, Dad?
He said: When I was your age, you might not like what the government
did, you might not like the party that was in power, but it never even
occurred to us to be afraid of the government. It never even occurred
to us that we might be targeted for what we believe or what we think or
what we do for a living. That is what is different now.
Mr. Speaker, people are afraid of their government. And if you are
home tonight, you are watching this, and you run an ammunition store in
Union, South Carolina, you are legitimately afraid that the government
is going to try and come and put you out of business. That is a
dramatic change, Mr. Speaker, and not a change for the better.
To that extent, a group of men and women come here tonight at the
invitation of the good gentleman from North Carolina (Mr. Walker), come
and just tell people that we think it is wrong, too, we have heard what
they have had to say back home, and just deliver the message that they
are not alone, that there are some men and women here in Washington who
are just as outraged as they are, and they are dedicated to making sure
that when our time here is done, they won't have to fear their
government anymore.
So with that, I thank the gentleman from North Carolina, again, for
setting up this Special Order.
Mr. WALKER. Mr. Speaker, when we talk about accountability, we think
of great leaders here in the Congress, even people who have reached out
as mentors. I can think of no one higher that has that honor for my
respect than the colleague, the part of our delegation from North
Carolina, Mr. Mark Meadows, and with that, I yield to him.
Mr. MEADOWS. I thank the gentleman from North Carolina for his
leadership and truly for being willing to be the voice of the American
people.
Mr. Speaker, I rise today to really highlight what so many Americans
have a hard time understanding, and that is why we as the American
people can continue to allow a government to overreach its true
authority and not be reined in, Mr. Speaker. So tonight I want to
highlight just a few things.
Before I do that, I think it is important that we talk about the
Federal workers here that work for the American people, the vast
majority of which--I would say almost 99 percent of which--are
dedicated public servants who each and every day give their utmost for
their fellow man, truly, to serve this great country.
So tonight, Mr. Speaker, I rise to really highlight some of those
that give the rest of those great Federal workers a bad name. For many
of us, they also give us a reason to pause and say: Wait just a minute.
How can that happen in this great land?
So tonight I feel like it is important that we identify some of these
workers who truly have displaced the trust of the American people. They
have taken Federal tax dollars, they have continued to take a salary,
and yet what we find is they did not uphold their constitutional duty
to do what is right on behalf of the American people.
We know one example is with the EPA, the gentleman who worked to
define the Clean Air Act. We found that, over time, he was not even
showing up for work, that he would continue to be paid for years and
years and years, that he was paid without showing up. Now, certainly
his colleagues would have to know that there was an empty cubicle next
to them, but yet, for over a decade, we have an EPA employee who
pretended to be a CIA agent.
Now, when we start to look at this, here he was not showing up for
work. He was traveling all over the world at taxpayers' expense.
Indeed, what he was continuing to do is pretend like he was an employee
of the Federal Government, but not showing up.
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So my question is really more about accountability, Mr. Speaker.
Where was the management team? Where was the accountability? We can
understand one bad apple, but where was the management?
Well, let me tell you where they were. This particular EPA employee
decides that they are going to go and they are going to retire, and so
all the management comes together. They give him a great retirement
party. He retires and he says: But wait just a minute. You need to
continue to pay me because I am still working for the CIA.
Now, the sad part about it is they continued to pay him for another
18 months. And, Mr. Speaker, I don't know about you, but that is just
hard to believe. It is the thing that novels are made of, but yet this
is not fictitious; it is the truth.
We have got other EPA employees that are there that are watching porn
on their government computer over 6 hours a day for 4 years. Where is
the oversight there?
And yet, when people are willing to blow the whistle and say, ``This
is not right with some of my colleagues,'' what do they meet with?
Well, we heard at a hearing just this last week that a whistleblower
for the Department of Homeland Security in their EB-5 program was
punished because she dared to speak up.
Well, Mr. Speaker, I think it is time that the American people start
to hold the management of Federal workers accountable because they are
entrusted with that trust that needs to be carried out each and every
day. And so tonight I am here to call out Mr. Mayorkas. Recently, an IG
report identified Mr. Mayorkas as doing special favors for political
operatives--allegedly, the Governor of Virginia; allegedly, the brother
of our former Secretary of State.
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What the American people will not stand for, Mr. Speaker, is a double
standard. If political favors are going to be given out, the people who
give them out should be held accountable. And I appreciate the
gentleman from North Carolina, his leadership, because not only is this
service on Oversight and Government Reform designed to make sure that
we get to the truth of it, but he is unrelenting in his willingness to
go after those who live by a double standard.
With that, Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from North Carolina.
Mr. WALKER. Thank you, Congressman Meadows. I appreciate your words
tonight.
Mr. Speaker, there is a lot of interest these days in the growing
list of candidates that we have running for the 2016 Presidential
election, and one of the things that drove me to make a decision in
running for Congress to begin with was the great abuses that we have in
some of the particular agencies.
Three years ago, none were more glaring than the State Department and
the actions taken by then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. To this
day, I can't understand why she could look and even hug a family and
tell them point-blank that this was about a video. Nine days later, our
President followed up with pretty much the same inaccurate jargon.
It is my privilege to yield to the gentleman from Colorado,
Representative Ken Buck, my friend, tonight, who is going to talk some
about her work and her time. He is a great conservative from the State
of Colorado.
Mr. BUCK. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman and my friend from North
Carolina for putting this together and for yielding to me.
Many of us know that today marks an important anniversary in world
history. Eight hundred years ago, following a populist revolution led
by courageous English barons demanding the protections from executive
overreach, England's King John signed into law a document known as the
Magna Carta. This ``Grand Charter'' marked the first time that
everyone, including kings, were subjected to the rule of law, that
everyone would enjoy the benefits of due process and equal protection
under the law.
The Magna Carta inspired our Founding Fathers to demand liberty in
the Declaration of Independence. Many Magna Carta principles appeared
again in the United States Constitution. This one single document
became the basis of our Republic and established one of our greatest
founding principles, the rule of law, and the rule of law remains as
important as ever.
President Obama is working to fundamentally transform our laws
without consent, granting citizenship to illegal immigrants, making
recess appointments to the NLRB when the Senate is not in recess, and
changing the healthcare law without an act of Congress.
The IRS ignored the rule of law by targeting and harassing
individuals based on their political beliefs. And who could forget the
ATF's Fast and Furious program, which allowed U.S. weapons to be walked
across the U.S.-Mexico border in hopes of catching Mexican drug lords,
but ended with the tragic murder of U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian
Terry.
It is time to prevent future would-be monarchs from being elected and
further eroding our proud tradition for the rule of law. While the
Clinton family has been known to play by their own set of rules and has
a laundry list of scandals that goes back decades, I am squarely
focused on two dubious, dishonest, and dangerous scandals that Hillary
Clinton was involved in while serving as Secretary of State.
As the Nation's top diplomat, Secretary Clinton used her position of
power to create her own set of rules, using a personal email account
for official State Department business. She continued to do so even
after issuing a memo calling on staff to use official government email
accounts.
Secretary Clinton ignored the rule of law when she deleted over
30,000 State Department emails from a personal server located in the
basement of her Georgetown mansion. What makes this worse is that she
deleted these emails even as Congress called for her to release them.
Storing these emails on a private server violates Federal records law.
Deleting these emails also raises questions not seen since the IRS
targeting investigation. What is she hiding in these deleted emails?
Did she even consider what might happen if these records fell into the
wrong hands? Would she even know if her server had been breached?
Secretary Clinton proudly stated during a March 10 press conference:
I fully complied with every rule I was governed by.
Americans will never know because she ignored the rule of law. By
exclusively using a personal email account to conduct State Department
business, Secretary Clinton put the State Department at a great risk
just for her personal convenience. The Secretary of State is also not
allowed to conduct and store official State Department business on a
private, unsecured server. If any other hard-working American conducted
their business this way, they would be out of a job and most likely in
jail.
This brings me to the Clinton family's next scandal. While Hillary
Clinton served as Secretary of State, the Clinton family foundation
continued to accept millions of dollars in donations from foreign
governments. All told, seven foreign nations, including Kuwait, Qatar,
Oman, and Algeria, donated money to the Clinton Foundation during the
time Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State.
These contributions raised questions about Secretary Clinton's
independence and ethical judgment. But when some of the $1 million
donations in question came from nations like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, the
United Arab Emirates, and Oman, it raises concerns about whether these
nations were hoping to gain better diplomatic ties to the United States
through sizable donations to the Clinton Foundation. When the Secretary
of State is playing fast and loose with the rule of law, even ignoring
a memorandum of understanding with the White House regarding a
questionable donation from the Algerian Government, it is extremely
difficult to trust her judgment or her word when she claims not to have
broken any laws.
The rule of law has been a core principle since our founding. Brave
men and women have fought and died to protect this idea and preserve
the liberty we hold so dearly. This is why I find it especially tragic
that Secretary Clinton blatantly ignored the rule of law.
The Magna Carta's anniversary is a great opportunity to remember the
courageous barons who secured the rule of law. We must restore this key
principle and stop the attacks on our founding principles. It is our
job to safeguard those liberties and protect the America we know and
love for generations to come.
Mr. WALKER. Thank you, Congressman Buck.
With that, it is my privilege to yield to the gentleman from Georgia,
Congressman Jody Hice, my colleague and a former fellow minister.
Mr. JODY B. HICE of Georgia. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from
North Carolina.
Mr. Speaker, I continue to be just astounded at the lack of
accountability and transparency surrounding the scandal with the IRS as
it relates to conservative groups and the targeting that the IRS had
towards those groups.
It is absolutely unacceptable that we have waited now for over 2
years to get answers to this scandal and the targeting of conservative
groups. Right at the epicenter of all of that is Lois Lerner. We
requested emails some 2 years ago and only right now, 2 years later,
some of these requests for emails are coming to light. These documents
and communications requested should have been brought forth long ago.
In fact, we are at the time now in this investigation, we are at the
point now that I believe we need to seriously question the process by
which Congress' requests for information from the IRS are being handled
by the IRS.
One example, Mr. Speaker, in the Oversight and Government Reform
Committee, where I have the distinct honor of serving, it came to light
in that committee that the IRS actually formed a special project team
in order to deal with the Lois Lerner investigation.
According to testimony by Ms. Mary Howard, who is the Director of the
Privacy, Governmental Liaison and Disclosure for the IRS, according to
her
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testimony, all congressional subpoenas, requests for information,
Freedom of Information Act requests, and other investigative requests
were directed to this special group, this special project team, rather
than going through the normal process of investigations that other
similar investigations might go through.
According to her testimony, Mr. Speaker, these requests were handled
primarily by the IRS Commissioner and the IRS Office of Chief Council
rather than the normal process. In other words, this special project
team handled the issue with Lois Lerner differently than they handle
other similar investigations.
Ms. Howard's testimony further revealed that the IRS, on numerous
occasions, went away from the standard way of dealing with freedom of
information requests and, if her testimony is true, the handling of the
FOIA requests not only for Ms. Lois Lerner, but for other 501(c)(3) and
(c)(4) organizations, and may have gone beyond what is even permissible
under the Freedom of Information Act.
Following her testimony, Chairmen Chaffetz and Jordan sent a letter
to the IRS Commissioner, John Koskinen, requesting more information so
that the Oversight Committee could better understand the process that
they used in dealing with Ms. Lois Lerner. And I am told that, even as
recently as this past Friday, the letter received back from the IRS is
totally inadequate. It does not answer the questions, and here we are
still years removed from it.
Mr. Speaker, it is extremely frustrating that now, 2 years later, we
are still dealing with this issue. It is frustrating that in the
Oversight and Government Reform Committee we are still dealing with the
deplorable activities of how the IRS has been handling this.
It is up to Congress. We must continue pushing forward for increased
accountability and transparency in all areas of our government,
particularly as it relates to this with the IRS.
I want to thank the gentleman from North Carolina.
Mr. WALKER. Thank you, Congressman Hice.
With that, I yield to the gentleman from the State of Texas, Mr. John
Ratcliffe, one of our sharpest new Members from the State of Texas, a
district attorney, who we asked specifically to come out to share some
thoughts tonight specifically about some of the continued abuses.
Mr. RATCLIFFE. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from North Carolina
for yielding this evening.
Mr. Speaker, the most fundamental principle of our criminal justice
system is that we are innocent until proven guilty. Operation Choke
Point turns that most sacred tenet on its head.
When President Obama and his administration uses agencies like the
Department of Justice and the FDIC to target legal businesses without
due process, without any public debate, and when he bases his attacks
not on the rule of law but on his own political beliefs, well, that is
a tragic breakdown of the system of checks and balances and separation
of powers that our Founding Fathers deliberately designed.
Mr. Speaker, Operation Choke Point is just flat wrong. Folks all
across the Fourth Congressional District of Texas in cities and towns
like Bonham, Denison, Sulphur Springs, Texarkana, and Sherman, they all
just want to run their businesses and enjoy their freedoms without fear
of persecution from a President that has overstepped his authority time
and time again.
Many of the Texans that I represent are deeply troubled and concerned
about Operation Choke Point, an initiative which is pressuring banks
and others in the financial industry to deny access to financial
services to businesses like gun sellers and coal producers.
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My constituents see this operation for what it really is, a blunt
weapon that targets and stigmatizes entire industries that the Obama
administration dislikes, instead of an honest effort to get rid of
actual bad actors and lawbreakers.
Sadly, as a direct result of Operation Choke Point, legitimate
businesses in Texas and across the country have been forced to close
simply because the President and his activist bureaucrats have a
political agenda, and they don't like what these businesses are
selling. When you weaponize your government to go after folks you don't
like and when you target your own citizens as political enemies, that
is the way that Third World governments operate, not the greatest
country the world has ever seen.
Mr. Speaker, this is the United States of America, and our government
should never go after its own citizens for political reasons. This is
especially outrageous when the administration does so by targeting the
Bill of Rights, and that is exactly what is happening here.
When you specifically target gun dealers and ammunition
manufacturers, that is an affront to and an assault upon our Second
Amendment rights. No President or administration is above the
Constitution and the Bill of Rights. I have met recently with far too
many honest, hard-working, law-abiding folks in the gun industry who
have been politically targeted by this initiative.
We can't allow this administration to continue to target legitimate
businesses, like gun stores and cigar and pawn shops, through Operation
Choke Point, just because the President doesn't like what they sell.
Pressuring and forcing banks to stop engaging with legal industries
needs to stop. We can't allow unelected bureaucrats to make such a
brazen, backdoor assault on legitimate businesses and the hard-working,
law-abiding citizens who own and operate them.
In July of 2014, one of the Judiciary subcommittees on which I now
serve held a hearing on Operation Choke Point, and because of that
hearing and of the due process concerns raised by the testimony there,
the DOJ and the FDIC announced it would rescind its list of so-called
high-risk merchants.
That move seemed to be an apparent recognition of the fact that
Operation Choke Point is wrongfully inflicting collateral damage on
legitimate businesses that are losing access to financial services.
Despite this acknowledgment and admission from those at the top,
companies across my district tell me that the administration's foot
soldiers on the ground simply haven't gotten the message yet. The
harassment is continuing, and this is simply unacceptable.
Mr. Speaker, we should stand up for the rights of every American. I
am saddened to see a President who is so out of touch with what has
made this country great, who is so out of touch that he would use an
army of unelected bureaucrats to attack businesses that don't toe the
ideological line with his administration.
Mr. Speaker, congressional oversight demands that we refuse to step
aside, that we refuse to let this unprovoked attack on our
constitutional and fundamental rights go unchallenged. I will continue
to stand watch against this overreach. My colleagues and I will not
allow our constituents' rights to be violated or our Constitution to be
trampled.
Mr. WALKER. I thank Congressman Ratcliffe for his powerful stance.
Mr. Speaker, since 2012, one of the bulldogs that has been holding
the IRS accountable is the Congressman from central Florida. At this
point, I yield to the gentleman from Florida (Mr. DeSantis).
Mr. DeSANTIS. I thank my friend from North Carolina.
Mr. Speaker, if you are a taxpayer and if you become subjected to an
IRS audit, you have got to prove and justify what you have submitted to
the IRS. If you tell the IRS, ``I don't really have those documents.
They were destroyed, and there is nothing I can do. Let's just move
along,'' I don't think most IRS agents are going to accept that, and I
think the taxpayer would likely find himself in hot water.
I think it is really unacceptable that the IRS seems to think it
could operate under a totally different standard than the standard that
it imposes on American taxpayers.
We have been going through this now since 2013 with Lois Lerner and
the targeting scandal in our trying to get more information. Last year,
before Congress, John Koskinen, the IRS Commissioner, said: We are
going to produce Lois Lerner's emails. We will produce all of them. We
have nothing to hide.
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A couple of months later, he said: Actually, most of Lois Lerner's
emails were destroyed because, you see, they are held on these backup
tapes, and we recycle the backup tapes. We destroy the tapes, so there
is just nothing we can do here. We are just going to move along, and we
are not going to participate in any meaningful way with your
investigation.
Most Americans didn't accept that, and it really was not worth the
paper it was printed on in terms of an excuse. It was, obviously, much
different than what the IRS would impose on a taxpayer, but it was even
more than that. It was more than just a weak excuse; it was false.
Once Koskinen said that the emails were destroyed--guess what?--the
Inspector General for Tax Administration in the Treasury Department did
basic due diligence and said: Do you know what? I am going to check to
see whether Koskinen is telling the truth.
What did the IG do? He drove out to West Virginia where they have the
warehouse of all of the backup tapes. What did they find? The Lois
Lerner emails on the backup tapes. They were there the whole time. Now,
they have pulled thousands and thousands of Lois Lerner emails.
These are emails that are, in many cases, different than the emails
that the IRS begrudgingly produced to Congress and to the American
people. This is a major, major issue. Of course, there is the
targeting, but then there are the lengths that the IRS has gone to
stymie Congress' investigation.
Just this week in Federal court, they are fighting Judicial Watch.
They don't want to turn over even these new emails that the Treasury
Inspector General for Tax Administration provided to the IRS.
They are saying: We can't turn them over to you now in the course of
the litigation. We are not going to turn them over to Congress because
we need to check to see whether there are any duplicates from the
emails that we have already turned over.
Really? Who cares? Give us the emails. Give the American people the
truth. What they are trying to do is to stonewall and drag this out as
long as they can, hoping that the American people will forget about it.
Then, basically, they get away scot-free, with nobody in their
organization being held accountable.
I think it is a test of this institution here in the Congress about
whether somebody like Commissioner Koskinen is going to be held to
account for misleading Congress, for providing false information to
Congress.
The fact of the matter is, if an American taxpayer were hauled in
front of a Federal grand jury or a Federal court and if he gave
testimony like that, that was not true, he would face consequences. You
can bet your bottom dollar.
I think the IRS is kind of the grossest example that we have in
Washington of really a fundamental problem with how our government
operates, which is that the people who work and operate in and around
Washington, D.C.--6 of the 10 wealthiest counties in our country are
now suburbs of Washington, D.C. We are not producing shale here. We
don't have technology--nothing--in Washington.
It is all because of the power and growth of government, so people
inside the beltway are not held accountable. You have people at the
IRS, and you have people at the EPA, and you have people in all of
these different agencies. Essentially, they are allowed to operate
under a lower standard of conduct than what an American taxpayer or a
citizen would be allowed or permitted to do by the government. That is
unacceptable.
I think that this IRS issue is as important a government
accountability issue as we are facing in this Congress. I think it is a
test for the House as to whether we are going to be serious about this
and hold these IRS officials accountable.
I am glad my friend from North Carolina had the time here today. I
think it was very productive to listen to some of the other Members. I
just want the American people to know that I am committed to getting to
the bottom of this and to holding these people accountable not only for
the targeting, but for obstructing the investigation when it has been
obstructed over and over again.
Mr. WALKER. I thank Congressman DeSantis.
Mr. Speaker, tonight, in closing, we have had an evening which we
have called and labeled ``the People's Night,'' one of many that we
plan on holding. I thank the dozen or so colleagues who have shown
their concern.
We talk much about awareness these days, but few times do we get to
the accountable and to the action step process. Government has run
amuck. That is why many of us ran to begin with.
I sent out an email this afternoon, asking a few of the constituents
back home what some of the things are they are concerned about. The
president of our local women's Republican club sent back two paragraphs
and listed about 12 or 13 things. Those are the kinds of things we need
to be calling out.
It has been a privilege to be with my colleagues this evening. I
appreciate their time as they continue to show strong support for these
wonderful men and women.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
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