[Congressional Record Volume 161, Number 86 (Monday, June 1, 2015)]
[Senate]
[Pages S3374-S3381]
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USA FREEDOM ACT OF 2015
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Under the previous order, the Senate will
resume consideration of H.R. 2048, which the clerk will report.
The senior assistant legislative clerk read as follows:
A bill (H.R. 2048) to reform the authorities of the Federal
Government to require the production of certain business
records, conduct electronic surveillance, use pen registers
and trap and trace devices, and use other forms of
information gathering for foreign intelligence,
counterterrorism, and criminal purposes, and for other
purposes.
Pending:
McConnell/Burr amendment No. 1449, in the nature of a
substitute.
McConnell amendment No. 1450 (to amendment No. 1449), of a
perfecting nature.
McConnell amendment No. 1451 (to amendment No. 1450),
relating to appointment of amicus curiae.
McConnell/Burr amendment No. 1452 (to the language proposed
to be stricken by amendment No. 1449), of a perfecting
nature.
McConnell amendment No. 1453 (to amendment No. 1452), to
change the enactment date.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from North Carolina.
Mr. BURR. Mr. President, I rise while my good friend from Florida is
on the floor to say that I wish I could have a magic wand with which I
could collapse this time. But as he knows, under Senate rules, one
Member can demand for the full 30 hours, and we are in a process like
that. My hope is that there will be accommodation as we go through this
because I think most Members would like to resolve this.
Let me say specifically to his two points that there is a substitute
amendment that has the USA FREEDOM language with two additional pieces.
Those two pieces are a 6-month notification to NSA by any telecom
company that intends to change its retention program. As my good friend
from Florida knows, in part, trying to move a bill is making sure we
move a bill that can be passed and accepted by the House of
Representatives. Mandatory retention right now does not meet that
threshold. But I hope they will accept this requirement of notification
of any change in their retention program, as well as a DNI
certification at the end of whatever the transition period is.
Now, there will be a first-degree and a second-degree amendment, in
addition to that, made in order and germane. The first-degree amendment
will be to extend the transition period to 12 months. So we would go
from 6 months--not to 2 years, as my colleague from Florida and I would
prefer, and not to 18 but to 12. I think that is a happy spot for us to
agree upon.
Then there will be a second-degree amendment to that to address some
language that is in the bill that makes it mandatory on the part of the
Justice Department that they get a panel of amicus individuals. What we
have heard from the Justice Department and gotten a recommendation on
is that that be voluntary on the part of the courts. We will second-
degree that first-degree amendment with that language provided to us by
the courts.
I would like to tell my colleague that by tomorrow afternoon, I hope,
we can have this complete and send it to the House, and by the time we
go to bed tomorrow night this might all be back in place.
I remind my colleagues that any law enforcement case that was in
progress is not affected by the suspension of the roving or ``lone-
wolf'' provisions. They are grandfathered in so those investigations
can continue. But for the 48 hours we might be closed, it means they
are going to delay the start of an investigation, if in fact they need
those two tools.
From the standpoint of the bulk data program, it means that is
frozen. It can't be queried for the period of time, but it hasn't gone
away. Immediately, as we reinstitute the authorities in this program,
that additional data will be brought in and the process that NSA would
go through to query the data
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would, in fact, be available to the National Security Agency only--as
is current law--once a FISA Court provides the authority for them to do
it.
I think there are a lot of misstatements that have been made on this
floor. Let me just state for my colleagues what is collected. What is
metadata? It is a telephone number, it is a date, it is the time the
call was made, and it is the duration of the phone call.
Now, I am not sure how we have invaded anybody's privacy by getting a
telephone number that is deidentified. We don't know who it belongs to,
and we would never know who it belongs to until it is turned over to
law enforcement to investigate because it has now been connected to a
known foreign terrorist's telephone number.
Stop and think about this. The CFPB--a government agency--collects
financial transactions on every American. There is nobody down here
trying to eliminate the CFPB. I would love to eliminate the CFPB
tomorrow. But there is no outrage over it, and they collect a ton more
information that is not deidentified. It is identified.
Every American has a discount card for their grocery store. You go in
and you get a discount every time you use it. Your grocery store
collects 20 times the amount of data the NSA does--all identified with
you. There is a big difference between the NSA and your grocery store:
We don't sell your data at the NSA; your grocery store does.
Now, I am for outrage, but let's make it equal. Let's understand we
are in a society where data is transferred automatically. The fact is,
No. 1, this is a program authorized by law, overseen by the Congress--
House and Senate--and the executive branch at the White House. It is a
program that has never had--never, never had--a privacy violation, not
one, in the time it has been in place.
Now, I am all for, if the American people say this is not a function
we believe government should be in--and I think that is what we have
heard--and we are transferring this data over to the telecom companies,
where no longer are there going to be a limited number of people who
can access that information. We are going to open it up to the telecom
companies to search it in some way, shape or form. Whether they are
trained or untrained or how exactly they are going to do it, it is
going to delay the amount of time it will take us to connect a dot to
another dot.
Mr. NELSON. Will the Senator yield for a question?
Mr. BURR. I will be happy to yield.
Mr. NELSON. Mr. President, this is a good example of the chairman of
the intel committee, a Republican, and this Senator from Florida, a
Democrat and a former member of the intel committee, agreeing and being
so frustrated--as was just exemplified by the Senator from North
Carolina--that there is so much misunderstanding of what this
legislation does.
The fact is, as the chairman has just said, ``metadata''--a fancy
term--is nothing more than business records of the telephone company. A
telephone number is made to another telephone number on such and such a
date, at such and such a time, for such and such duration. That is all.
We don't know whom the call was from or to. It is when there is the
suspicion, through other things that are authorized by court order,
that the analyst can get in and open up as to what the content is in
order to protect us.
Would the Senator from North Carolina agree there is so much
misunderstanding in the press, as has been reported, about how this is
an invasion of privacy, as if the conversations were the ones that were
being held by the National Security Agency? Would the Senator agree
with that statement?
Mr. BURR. I would agree exactly with that statement. The collection
has nothing to do with the content of a call. To do that would take an
investigation into an individual and an additional court process that
would probably be pursued by the FBI, not the NSA, to look at the
content.
I think when the American people see this thing dissected, in
reality, they will see that my telephone number without my name isn't
really an intrusion, the time the call was made really isn't an
intrusion, the duration of the call really isn't an intrusion, and now
I know they are not collecting anything that was said, that there is no
content in it and that this metadata base is only telephone numbers.
There is a legitimate question the American people ask: Why did we
create this program? Well, it was created in the Department of Defense.
It was transferred over to the intelligence community. The purpose of
it was in real time to be able to search or query a massive amount of
data.
A few weeks ago, we, the United States, went into Syria and we got a
bad guy. And we got hard drives and we got telephones and we got a lot
of SIM cards. Those telephone numbers now, hopefully--don't know but
hopefully--we are testing them in the metadata base to see if those
phones talked to anybody in the United States. Why? I think the
American people want us to know if terrorists are talking to somebody
in this country. I think they really do want us to know that.
What we have tried to do since 9/11 is to structure something that
lives within the law or a Presidential directive that gives us that
head start in identifying who that individual is. But we only do it
through telephone numbers, the date of the call, and the length of the
call. We don't do it through listening to content.
That is why I think it is healthy for us to have this debate. I think
my good friend from Florida shares my frustration. We are changing a
program that didn't have a problem and didn't need to be changed, and
we are accepting a lower threshold of our ability to intercept that
individual in the United States who might have the intention of
carrying out some type of an attack.
Now, I would only say this. I don't believe the threat level has
dropped to a point where we can remove some of the tools. If anything,
the threat level has gotten higher, and one would think we would be
talking about an expansion of tools. But I accept the fact that this
debate has gotten to a point where a bulk data storage capacity within
the government is not going to be continued long term.
I would say to my good friend, who I think agrees with me, that
although I believe 24 months is a safer transition period, hopefully
our friends in the House will see 12 months as a good agreement between
the two bodies. That 12-month agreement I think would give me
confidence knowing we have taken care of the technology needed for the
telecoms to search in real time their numbers.
Now, make no mistake, this will be a delay from where we currently
are. I can't get into the classified nature of how long it takes us to
query a database, given the way we do it, but there is no question this
will lengthen the amount of time it takes us to connect the dots.
Therefore, for something that might be in an operational mode, we may
or may not hit that. That is a concern. But this is certainly something
we can go back and look at as time goes on.
Mr. NELSON. Mr. President, if the Senator will further yield.
Mr. BURR. Absolutely.
Mr. NELSON. Has the Senator heard many times from the press: Well,
nobody has come forward and shown us one case in which the holding of
these telephone business bulk records has paid off. Has the Senator
heard that statement by the press?
Mr. BURR. The Senator has heard that statement by the press and has
heard it made by Members of this body.
Mr. NELSON. Has the Senator come to the conclusion that with regard
to the holding of that data and the many cases that are classified,
that that data has protected this country from terrorists by virtue of
just the example he gave of terrorist records apprehended in the raid
in Syria a couple of weeks ago and that those telephone numbers may
well be like mining gold in finding other terrorists who want to hit
us?
Mr. BURR. The Senator hits on a great point, and let me state it this
way. Would any Member of the Intelligence Committee be on the floor
battling to keep this program, if, in fact, in our oversight capacity,
we had looked at a program that was absolutely worthless? Would we
expend any capital to do that? The answer is, no, we wouldn't.
We are down here battling on the floor, those of us either on the
committee or who have been on the committee since 9/11, because we have
seen the impact of this program. We know what it has enabled us to do
and we
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know what happens when we get a trove of technology in our hands that
gives us the ability to see whether it was tied to somebody--whether we
knew about them or we didn't.
The fact is, when you have groups such as ISIL today, that are saying
on social media: Don't come to Syria, stay in the United States, stay
in Europe, go buy a gun, here are 100 law enforcement officers, here
are 100 military folks, that is how you can carry out the jihad, it
makes the use of the tool we are talking about even more important
because no longer do we get to look at no-fly lists, no longer do we
get to look at individuals who have traveled or who intend to travel to
Syria. It is individuals who grew up in neighborhoods that we never
worried about. And the only way we will be able to find out about them
is if we connect the conversation they have had or just the fact that a
conversation took place, and then law enforcement can begin to peel the
onion back with the proper authorities--the proper court order--to
begin to look at whether this is a person we need to worry about.
The Senator from Florida is 100 percent correct that this is
invaluable to the overall defense of this country.
Mr. NELSON. Mr. President, if the Senator will further yield, and I
will conclude with this.
The American people need to understand there is so much agreement
behind the closed doors on the Intelligence Committee, as they are
invested with the oversight of what is going on in order to protect our
blessed country. My plea now is we would get to the point that as the
chairman has suggested, even by waiting until tomorrow, we can collapse
this time and get on to passing this by sending down some minor
modifications to the House that they can accept, then get it to the
President so this important program that tries to protect us from
terrorists can continue.
I thank the Senator for yielding.
Mr. BURR. I thank my good friend from Florida for his willingness to
come to the floor and talk facts.
I see my good friend from Arizona here. Before I yield, let me just
restate what the Senator from Florida asked me, which was, geez, we
need a longer transition period and we need something addressed on the
data that is held.
I say for my colleagues that there will be three votes at some point.
One will be on a substitute amendment. It has the exact same language
as the USA FREEDOM bill. It makes two changes to the USA FREEDOM bill.
It has a requirement that the telecoms notify the government 6 months
in advance of any change in the retention program for their data, which
I think is very reasonable. The second would be that it requires the
Director of National Intelligence to certify, on whatever the
transition date is, that the software that needs to be provided to the
telecoms has been provided so that search can go through.
In addition to that, there will be two other amendments. The first
will deal with expanding the transition period from the current 6
months in the USA FREEDOM bill to 12 months. Again, I would have
preferred 24 months. We have settled on 12 months. The last thing is
that it would change the current amicus language in the bill to reflect
something provided to us by the courts. It was the court's
recommendation that we change it. This would be easier to fit within a
program that has a time sensitivity to it.
So as we go through the debate today, as we go through tomorrow,
hopefully we will have three amendments that pass, and we can report
this bill out shortly after lunch tomorrow if everything works well.
With that, I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Arizona.
Mr. McCAIN. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent to address the
Senate as in morning business.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Tribute to Bob Schieffer
Mr. McCAIN. Mr. President, I wish to pay tribute today to CBS
broadcaster Bob Schieffer, who retired yesterday as the moderator of
the most watched Sunday news show, ``Face the Nation,'' after a career
in journalism that lasted more than half a century. Bob reported from
Dallas that terrible weekend President Kennedy was assassinated. At
that time, he was with the Fort Worth Star Telegram. He was CBS's
Pentagon correspondent, congressional correspondent, White House
correspondent, and chief Washington correspondent. He anchored the
``CBS Evening News'' at a time of transition and turmoil at the
network. For 24 years he moderated ``Face the Nation,'' which became
more popular every year Bob ran the show. He tried to retire before,
several times. CBS begged him to stay. That is an impressive run by
anyone's standards, all the more so considering Bob is probably the
most respected and popular reporter in the country.
Familiarity might not always breed contempt, but it is certainly not
a guarantee of enduring public admiration--except in Bob's case. The
public's regard for Bob Schieffer never seemed to waver or even level
off. He grew in stature the longer his career lasted. Not many of us
can say that. The secret to his success, I suspect, is pretty simple:
Americans just like Bob Schieffer. They like him a lot and trust him.
That is pretty rare in his profession, which, like ours, has fallen
precipitously in recent years in the esteem of the American people. I
think it is attributable to the personal and professional values he
honestly and seemingly effortlessly represented, old-fashioned values
that in this modern communications age make him stand out.
Bob is courteous and respectful to the people he reports on and
interviews. There are people in his profession who disdain that
approach to journalism, but I doubt they will ever be as good at the
job as Bob Schieffer was. He looked to get answers to questions the
public had a right and a need to have answered. He was dogged in
pursuit of those answers, and more often than not he succeeded. But he
wasn't sarcastic or cynical. He wasn't rude. He didn't show off. He
didn't do ``gotcha'' journalism. He was fair, he was honest, and he was
very good at his job. He asked good questions, and he kept asking them
until he got answers. He was determined to get at the truth not for the
sake of one-upping you or embarrassing you but because that was a
journalist's responsibility in a free society. If he caught someone
being evasive or dishonest or pompous, he would persist long enough for
them to expose themselves. He didn't yell or talk over them or insult
them. He didn't need to.
I don't know how he votes. Most people in his profession have
political views to the left of my party, and it wouldn't surprise me if
Bob does, too. Almost all reporters claim they keep their personal
views out of their reporting, but not many do it successfully, be they
liberal or conservative. The best do, and Bob Schieffer is the best. I
never once felt I had been treated unfairly by him because he disagreed
with me. I think most Republicans Bob interviewed would say the same.
He moderated Presidential debates without receiving any criticism--or
at least any deserved criticism--for loading his questions with his own
views or mediating exchanges between candidates to favor one over the
other. He was the model of a successful moderator, intent on informing
the electorate, not drawing attention to himself. That is not to say he
didn't make an impression on his audience. He did. He impressed them,
as he always did, with his fairness, his honesty, and his restraint.
It is no secret that I have made an occasional appearance on a Sunday
morning show. No doubt I have enjoyed those experiences more than some
of my colleagues have enjoyed watching them. Some people might think I
should take up golf or find something else to do with my Sunday
mornings. I may have to now that Bob has retired.
I have appeared on ``Face the Nation'' over 100 times--more than any
other guest. I acknowledge there are viewers who would prefer to see
someone else claim that distinction. Too bad. I have the record, and I
think I will have it for a while. I am kidding--sort of. But I am not
kidding about my appreciation for Bob Schieffer and the opportunity he
gave me and everyone who appeared on his show to communicate our views
on issues without a third party editing or misconstruing them and to
have those views tested by a capable, probing, and fair interviewer,
which Bob Schieffer certainly was.
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He is something else, too, in addition to being a very good and very
fair reporter. He is a good guy. And there are never enough of those
around. I am going to miss spending the occasional Sunday morning with
him.
Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
The legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. DURBIN. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for
the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. DURBIN. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent to speak as in
morning business.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Remembering Beau Biden
Mr. DURBIN. Mr. President, I gathered Saturday night in Springfield,
IL, with my wife and a group of close friends at the retirement party
of Ann Dougherty, who served me so well here in the Senate office and
in the congressional office in Springfield. It was a great night with a
lot of enjoyment. That was interrupted by the sad news of the passing
of Beau Biden. One of my other staffers came up and said that Beau
Biden had passed away here in Washington on Saturday evening.
Beau, of course, the oldest son of Vice President Joe Biden, had been
suffering from a serious cancer illness--brain cancer--for some period
of time. Most of us knew there was something terribly wrong when we
approached the Vice President about his son's illness, and Joe--the
Vice President--in very hushed terms would say, ``Pray for him.''
We knew he was in a life struggle, but the fact that he would lose
his life Saturday evening at age 46 is a personal and family tragedy.
It is a tragedy which is compounded by the extraordinary person Beau
Biden was. This young, 46-year-old man had achieved so many things in
life. First and foremost, he had married Hallie--a wonderful marriage,
two beautiful children. He was part of that expanded and warm Biden
family.
He was known to most people around America by his introduction of his
father at the Democratic National Convention. It was not a customary
political introduction; it was an introduction of love by a son who
truly loved his father. Beau Biden told the story of his mother's
untimely death in an auto accident with his sister and how he and his
brother Hunter had survived and drew closer to their father as they
grew up.
Jill Biden married Joe at a later date, and the family expanded. As
you watched this family in the world of politics, they were just
different. They were so close and loving of one another that you knew
there was an extraordinary bond there.
Beau Biden made his father proud and all of us proud in the
contributions he made, first as attorney general in Delaware and then
in his service with the Delaware National Guard, actually being posted
overseas in harm's way and earning a Bronze Star for the extraordinary
service he gave to our country. That is why his loss is felt on so many
different levels. This life was cut short--a life which could have led
to so many great things in public service beyond his service to the
State of Delaware. But, in a way, it is a moment to reflect on this
family, this Biden family.
I have been in politics for a long time, and I have met a lot of
great people in both political parties, extraordinary people. I have
never met someone quite like Vice President Joe Biden.
A friend of mine, a colleague from Illinois, Marty Russo, served in
the U.S. House of Representatives for several decades. He was a friend
of Joe Biden's. When Marty Russo's son was diagnosed with leukemia,
Marty Russo called Joe Biden, who was then a Senator from Delaware. Joe
Biden not only called Marty Russo's son but continued to call and visit
him on a regular basis.
His empathy and caring for other people is so extraordinary. I don't
know that there is another person quite like him in public life. The
only one I can think of who rivaled him was Ted Kennedy, who had the
same empathy. And, as I reflect on it, both of them had in their lives
examples of personal tragedy and family tragedy, which I am sure made
them more sensitive to the losses and suffering of others.
Joe Biden is the kind of person who does things in politics that
really are so unusual in the level of compassion he shows. I can recall
one time a year or two ago when we were setting out on a trip together
that was canceled at the last minute. I called him and said: I am sorry
we can't go together. I had hoped during the course of that trip to ask
you to make a special phone call to the mother of one of my staffers
who was celebrating her 90th birthday.
She was the wife of a disabled World War II veteran who had raised a
large Irish Catholic family, the Hoolihan family, and I wanted Joe
Biden to wish her a happy birthday.
Well, we didn't make the trip and I didn't get a chance to hand him
the phone, but he took down the information, and as soon as he hung up
the phone from talking to me, he called her.
He was on the phone with her for 30 minutes, talking about her
family, his family, and thanking her for making such a great
contribution to this country. It is the kind of person Joe Biden is and
Jill, his wife, the same. How many times in my life and in others has
she stepped forward to show a caring heart at a moment when it really,
really counted.
The loss of Beau Biden is the loss of a young man who was destined
for even greater things in public life, but it is another test of a
great family, the Biden family, a test which I am sure they will pass
and endure, not without a hole in their hearts for the loss of this
great young man but with a growing strength that brings them together
and inspires the rest of us to remember the real priorities in life--
love of family and love of those who need a caring heart at an
important moment.
Ukraine, Lithuania, and Poland
Mr. President, I just returned from a visit to Ukraine, Lithuania,
and Poland this last week. I went there to assess the ongoing Russian
threat to our friends and NATO partners in Eastern Europe. What I saw
was uplifting but deeply disturbing.
Most urgently is the so-called Minsk II treaty agreement reached in
February between Russia, Ukraine, Germany, and France to bring an end
to the fighting in Eastern Europe. This agreement was supposed to end
the bloodshed in Ukraine, allow for the return of prisoners, ensure a
pullback of heavy weapons, begin preparations for local elections, and
return control of Ukraine's borders to the Ukraine.
I am sorry to report that this agreement has not lived up to its
promise. The blame rests squarely, and not surprisingly, with the
invading forces of Russia. Not only does fighting continue in Ukraine
on a regular basis but Reuters recently reported that Russia is
amassing troops and hundreds of pieces of weaponry, including mobile
rocket launchers, tanks and artillery at a makeshift base near the
Ukrainian border.
The equipment, along with Russian military personnel, had identifying
marks and insignia that the Russians tried to remove to try to hide
their real culpability. At this point, perhaps the only people in the
world who do not believe Russia is behind the mayhem, human suffering,
and displacement of innocent people in eastern Ukraine are the Russian
people who have been lied to over and over again about what is actually
going on with this invasion of Ukraine.
President Putin has repeatedly lied to his own people about Russian
soldiers fighting in Ukraine. He has lied to them about what started
this conflict, and he has lied to them about the treatment of ethnic
Russians outside of Russia's borders. Yet, as more and more Russian
soldiers have been killed in fighting, Putin has struggled to explain
this dangerous and cynical canard to the families of those killed in
the war.
Most recently, last week, he even went so far as to make it illegal
in Russia to report war deaths--incredible.
Yet, while I was there--as if anyone needed proof--two Russian
soldiers were captured deep inside of eastern Ukraine. They had killed
at least one Ukrainian soldier, and when it appeared they were about to
be caught--listen to this--when it appeared they were about to be
captured by the
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Ukrainians, they were fired upon by their own Russian forces, an effort
to kill them before they could be captured. These soldiers have
disclosed that they are in the Russian military and carried ample
evidence on their persons to support the now obvious truth that Russia
is squarely behind perpetuating this invasion and conflict.
Mr. Putin, if you are going to drag your country into war to
perpetuate your own political power, you ought to at least have the
honesty to tell the Russian people the truth about that war,
particularly those families of Russian soldiers most affected by this
conflict. Going back to the old Soviet playbook of lies and
disinformation is an insult to the Russian families whose young men are
being sent into your war.
So it is clear the Minsk agreement is in jeopardy. It is critical
that the European Union now renew its sanctions in response to Russia's
illegal aggression. We in the United States should continue to work
with our key NATO allies to ensure that Ukraine succeeds as a free
democratic state and that NATO members are protected against Russian
provocations--more on that in a moment.
Not everything in Ukraine is negative. The new government coalition
is working tirelessly to reform the nation and provide a model of free
market democracy on Russia's borders. Perhaps that is why Putin is
trying so hard to undermine Ukraine. Decades of corruption, bribery,
inefficiency, and bureaucracy are being tackled by this new government.
Security services are being reformed. Ukrainians are starting to free
themselves from the stranglehold of dependence on Russian natural gas.
Keep in mind all of this is occurring while Russia has largely
destroyed a key industrial section in Ukraine. Try to imagine
rebuilding a neglected and corrupted economy in the midst of fighting a
war against one of the world's superpowers, Russia, and losing key
engines of a nation's economy. That is what the Ukrainians are up
against. They have risked so much for a better future; one that is open
and connected to the rest of the free world. Why this was and is such a
threat to Russia I will never fully understand.
I will say one thing that Mr. Putin did not count on. His invasion of
Ukraine has unified that country in a way that I could not have
imagined even last year. You see, there was a question which direction
Ukraine would go, West or East. The people of Ukraine stopped the
former Prime Minister, Yanukovych, in his efforts to move toward Moscow
believing that their future should be in the West, but there was
divided opinion even within Ukraine until Vladimir Putin invaded. At
that point, the people of Ukraine realized their future was in the
West. They looked to the West, to the European Union, to America, not
only for support in this conflict but for inspiration as to what their
future may hold.
I was proud to see what our Nation has been doing in Ukraine. Under
President Obama, we have provided significant nonlethal supplies and
assistance to Ukraine and its military. In fact, we lead the world in
supporting Ukraine's efforts to revitalize their economy and to
strengthen their military. We have led that fight on establishing
sanctions on Russia and making sure they are not lifted until Russia
stops this invasion.
In the town of Lviv, in western Ukraine, we have 300 U.S. Army
personnel training Ukrainian National Guardsmen. I had the privilege of
meeting with our forces, our American forces, these trainers and the
trainees. I must say it was amazing.
Now, listen, some of these Ukrainian National Guardsmen whom we are
training had just returned from battle in the eastern part of Ukraine.
One had been captured by the Russians for 5 days. They had been under
gunfire and fighting in combat against the Russians and their skilled
military who are being sent into an area called the Donbass.
After they were relieved from that responsibility in the east, they
were brought back west to this training camp with America's best in
terms of our Army leadership. It turns out the basic training these
Ukrainians should have had before they went into battle was never given
to them. So now, coming back from battle, our soldiers were trying to
give them the basic training to make sure they could survive if sent to
battle again and bring home their comrades in the process. They were
deeply, deeply grateful for that training, and our men and women
working there to train them were so proud to be part of this effort. I
commend this effort. I thank the President for extending America's hand
to help the Ukrainian military be trained so they can survive and repel
this Russian aggression.
I went on to Lithuania and Poland. It was also clear the Russian
bullying and aggression is not limited to Ukraine. In both Lithuania
and Poland, these frontline NATO partners face a steady stream of
Russian vitriol and military threats. Russian planes recklessly buzz
NATO airspace, Russian leaders make threats of capturing cities like
Vilnius, the capital of Lithuania, and dangerous missiles were moved
into the Russian region of Kaliningrad, bordering both Lithuania and
Poland. All the while, a steady stream of sophisticated yet crude
Russian propaganda flows from its state-run media services.
I happened to be in Berlin at an Aspen conference not that long ago--
just a few months ago--when we were moving NATO equipment and forces in
a parade--a scheduled parade--of our military in NATO through Poland
and the Baltics. There was a cable channel called RT, which stands for
Russia Today, that was broadcasting what they called protesters
protesting the presence of NATO soldiers and equipment. RT reported
that these protesters were holding signs--and they showed small groups
of them--saying, ``NATO, stop your invasion of the Baltics.''
Well, it turns out that was a phony. When I went there, I got the
real story. In every town these NATO forces went through with their
equipment, they were welcomed like conquering heroes. Women were
holding out flowers and candy, and children were applauding as they
went by, holding flags of Poland and of the United States. But RT, the
Russia Today cable channel, was trying to twist the story and make it
look as if the U.S. presence there was resented, when in fact it was
welcomed.
The stakes here are very high. Putin is pumping Russian language
incitement into areas of Europe where ethnic Russian populations live.
He is promoting a message of victimhood and trying to justify further
belligerence. What an insult to the talented and proud and outstanding
Russian people.
I was pleased to see that the U.S. and NATO forces are maintaining
regular rotations in these frontline nations. We are boosting our
Baltic Air Patrol to protect the airspace and working with NATO allies
to boost their own defenses.
One of the most amazing things in both Lithuania and Poland was the
unequivocal request of the governments in those countries for the
United States to have an even larger military presence in those
countries. They are worried. They want to make sure NATO is there if
they need it, and they think as long as the United States is there,
they have more confidence about their future.
I had to tell them we are having our budget issues here. We are not
talking about expanding U.S. military bases anywhere in the world at
this point. We are trying to maintain our own military. It was
heartwarming to think that they still believe in the United States as
the one 911 number in the world that you want to call if you ever have
a challenge.
It is a dangerous and tragic state of affairs in this part of the
world. I was glad to see it firsthand and to reassure those leaders in
Poland, Lithuania, and Ukraine that the United States shares their
values and cares for their future.
What we have seen is an effort by Putin to undermine decades of
security arrangements in Europe while perpetuating an insulting image
of victimhood. He has challenged the entire West and its democratic
systems. We cannot let him succeed, for Ukraine, for NATO, even for his
own people. Despite our disagreements in Congress, I hope we can
continue to provide strong funding for support to Ukraine and NATO.
I met with a group of eight members of the Parliament in Ukraine.
Their Parliament is called the Rada. Of these eight members, at least
six of them--maybe seven--were brand new to this business. They had
come out of the protests in the Maidan--which is a
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large square in downtown Kiev, Ukraine--where the protesters had ousted
the former government, installed a new government, and risked their
lives to do it. Some lost their lives in the process. There were so
many of those young people sitting across the table from me who 6 or 8
months ago had nothing to do with politics. They had jobs and they were
artists and they were involved in their community, but they were so
inspired by what they saw in the Maidan that they decided to run for
Parliament. Now these young people are tackling the toughest issues
that any government can tackle: ending the corruption, reforming their
government, saving their economy, fighting the Russians on the eastern
border.
It humbled me in a way. I have given so much of my life to Congress
and the legislative process, and I thought how many times we find
ourselves tied up in knots, just as we are today, with little or
nothing happening on this floor of the U.S. Senate when there are so
many challenges we face across this Nation. I thought about them,
sitting in Kiev not knowing if tomorrow or the day after or a week
after they would have to face an invasion of the Russians coming across
their country trying to capture it. Yet they have the courage and
determination to press on, to try to build a better country for the
future, inspired by their own people who took to the streets to reclaim
their nation.
Well, I left with some inspiration on my own part. I hope to
encourage this administration to show even more support for the
Ukrainians and to make it clear to our NATO allies that we will stand
with them, as we have for so many decades, in the pursuit of democratic
values.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Cotton). The Senator from Maine.
Mr. KING. Mr. President, I rise to address the bill before us, the
USA FREEDOM Act, and its predecessor, the PATRIOT Act. Before talking
about the specifics of those bills, I will try to address the
historical context of what it is we are wrestling with and why it is so
hard.
What we are really trying to do in this body this week is to balance
two critical constitutional provisions. The first is in the preamble,
which is to provide for the common defense and ensure domestic
tranquility. That is a fundamental purpose of this government. It is a
fundamental purpose of any government--to provide for the common
defense and ensure domestic tranquility. That is national security, and
it is in the very core preamble to the Constitution of the United
States.
Of course, the other provisions are found in the Bill of Rights,
particularly in the Fourth Amendment, which talks about the rights of
the people to be secure in their persons and papers from unreasonable
searches and seizures. ``Unreasonable'' is a key word. The people who
drafted our Constitution were geniuses and every word counts. The word
was ``unreasonable.'' So there is no absolute right to privacy, just as
there is no absolute right to national security. We have to try to find
the right balance, and that is what we have to do year in and year out,
decade in and decade out, in relation to developments in technology and
developments in terms of the threats which we face. It is a calibration
that we have to continue to try to make.
Now, I have been concerned, as a member of the Intelligence
Committee, about the retention of large quantities of telephone data by
the government. I think the program under which that data has been
analyzed is important, and I will talk about that in a few minutes. I
share the concern of many in this body who feel that simply having and
retaining all of that information in government computers, even though
it was hedged about with various protections and even though there were
requirements for how it was to be accessed--and the level of attention
to the detail of that access was important--and there is no evidence
that it had ever been abused, was a danger to the liberty of our
country. I feel the same as many of the Members of this body who have
expressed that concern. Therefore, the USA FREEDOM Act, which we have
before us now, proposes to move to leave the data with the phone
companies. Instead of the government collecting and having it in the
government's hands, the data will be in the phone companies. If it is
necessary to access that information for national security purposes,
the government will have to go through the process of going through the
Justice Department and the court in order to get permission to access
that data.
Why shouldn't the government simply hold it? I am a subscriber to
Lord Acton's famous maxim that ``power tends to corrupt, and absolute
power corrupts absolutely.''
While the current administration or the prior administration may have
no inclination to misuse that data, we have no idea what may come in
the future, what pressures there may be, what political pressures there
may be. Therefore, it struck me as sensible to get it out of
government's hands.
The trouble I have had with the USA FREEDOM Act is that I felt it
went too far in the other direction because there was no requirement in
the bill, as it passed the House, that the phone companies retain and
hold the data for any particular period of time. They now hold it, as a
matter of business practice, for 18 months to 2 years, which is all
that is necessary in order to have the data available for a national
security search if necessary. The problem is that there is no
requirement that they maintain that level of retention.
In fact, in an open hearing, one of the vice presidents of one of the
carriers said categorically: We will not accept a limitation on how
long we have to hold the data. I think that is a glaring weakness in
the USA FREEDOM Act, and, in fact, it led me to vote against the
consideration of the motion to proceed when it came up last week.
Today or tomorrow--whenever the timing works out--there will be a
series of amendments proposed by the Senator from North Carolina, the
chair of the Intelligence Committee, designed to deal with several of
these technical but very important aspects of this program. One of
those amendments would require the carriers--if they decide to hold the
data for a shorter period of time--to notify the government, notify the
Congress, and we could then make a decision as to whether we thought
that some additional required period of retention would be necessary in
order to adequately protect our national security. Another amendment
that I understand is going to be proposed is that the transition period
from the current program to the private carriers holding the data will
be extended from 6 months to 1 year, simply because this is a major,
Herculean technical task to develop the software to be sure that this
information will be available for national security purposes on a
timely basis.
Now, the final question, and the one we have been debating and
discussing here is this: Is it an important program? Is it worth
maintaining? There has been a lot of argument that if you can't point
to a specific plot that was specifically foiled by this narrow
provision, then we don't need it at all. I don't buy that. It is part
of our national security toolkit.
It is interesting to talk about the history of this provision. It
came into being shortly after September 11, because a gap in our
security analysis ability was identified at that time, and that was
that we could not track phone connections--not content, and I will talk
about that in a minute--between the people who were preparing for the
September 11 attack. For that reason, the section 215 program was
invented.
I want to stop for just a moment and make clear to the American
people that this program does not collect or listen to or otherwise
have anything to do with the content of phone calls.
As I talked to people in Maine and they approached me about this,
they said: We don't want the government listening to all of our phone
calls. The answer is: They don't. This program does not convey and has
not conveyed any such authority. We are talking about a much more
narrow ability to determine whether a particular phone number called
another phone number, the duration and date of that phone call, and
that is it.
An example of its usefulness was at the Boston Marathon bombing. The
two brothers perpetrated that horrendous attack in Boston in April of
2013. This program allowed the authorities to check their phone numbers
to see if they were in touch with other people in the country so they
could determine
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whether this was a nationwide plot or whether it was simply these two
guys in Boston. That, I will submit, is an important and--some would
say--critical piece of information. It turned out that they were acting
on their own, but had there been connections with other similarly
inclined people in the country at that time, that would have been
important information for us to know, and that is the way this program
is used.
Is it absolutely critical and indispensable in solving these cases? I
don't think anybody can argue that that is the case. Is it important
and useful as a part of the national security toolkit? Yes,
particularly when the invasion of privacy, if you will, is so limited
and really so narrowly defined. I liken it to a notebook that a police
officer carries at the scene of a crime. A detective goes to the scene
of a crime, takes out his notebook, and writes some notes. If we said
that detectives can no longer carry notebooks, would it eliminate law
enforcement's ability to solve crimes? No, but would it limit a tool
that was helpful to them in solving that crime or another crime? The
answer, I think, would be yes.
We should not take a tool away that is useful and important unless
there is some compelling argument on the other side. Since we are not
talking about the content of the phone conversations--we are simply
talking about which number called which other number, and it can only
be accessed through a process that involves the Justice Department and
then permission from the court--I think it is a program that is worthy
of protection and useful to this country, and I think it is
particularly important now.
It is ironic that we are talking about, in effect, unilaterally
disarming to this extent at a time when the threat to this country has
never been greater and the nature of the threat is changing. September
11 is what I would call terrorism 1.0, a plot that was hatched abroad.
The people who perpetrated it were smuggled into the country in various
ways. They had a specific target and a specific plot that they were
working on. That is terrorism 1.0, September 11. Terrorism 2.0 is a
plot that is hatched abroad but communicated directly to people in the
United States who are part of the jihadist group. But now we are on to
terrorism 3.0, which is ISIS sending out what amounts to a terrorist
APB to no particular person but to anyone in this country who has been
radicalized by themselves or by the Internet. There is no direct
connection between them and ISIS. It might be a Facebook post. That
person then takes up arms and tries to kill Americans, and that is what
their intent is. That is the hardest situation for us to counteract,
and that is a situation where this ability to track numbers calling
numbers can be extremely useful. In fact, it might be the only useful
tool because we are not going to have the kind of specific plotting
that we have seen in the past.
This is the most dangerous threat that I think we face today. To
throw aside a protection or a safeguard that I believe passes
constitutional and legal muster and goes the extra mile to protect the
privacy rights of Americans by getting this data out of the hands of
the government and that is worthy of the support and the active work in
this Chamber to find that balance--the balance between the imperative,
the most solemn responsibility we have in this body, which is to
provide for the common defense and ensure domestic tranquility, and to
protect the safety and security of the people of this country in light
of the constitutional limitations in the Bill of Rights that protect
our individual liberties that make us who we are--we can do both
things. There is never going to be a final answer to this question. But
what we have to do is just what we are doing this week, and that is to
assess the threats, assess the technology developments, and try to find
the right calibration and the right balance that will allow us to meet
that most solemn of our responsibilities.
I look forward, hopefully, to the consideration of amendments later
either today or tomorrow and look forward to what I hope will be a
quick passage of this legislation in the next 24 to 48 hours so we can
look our constituents and the people of this country in the eyes and
say: We took the responsibility to protect your security seriously, and
we also took seriously your rights, your liberty, and your
understanding that the government is not going to impinge unreasonably
in any way in violation of the principles of this Constitution.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from North Carolina.
Mr. BURR. Mr. President, I thank my good friend, the Senator from
Maine, a committed member of the Committee on Intelligence, and one who
has been vitally involved in the oversight of section 215.
I think what has been left out of the debate is that 15 Members of
the U.S. Senate have actively carried out oversight. This is probably
one of the most looked at programs that exists within the jurisdiction
of the Intelligence Committee. There are a couple more that probably
get more constant attention, but this is not a program that is used
that frequently. I think that is the key point.
I wish to reiterate some of the issues Senator King brought up. We
are not listening to people's phone calls. There is no content
collected.
This program expired last night at midnight. That means the database
cannot be queried, regardless of if we find a terrorist telephone
number. I think it is important to remind my colleagues and the
American people that this is all triggered by a nonterrorist number
outside of the United States.
Now, in the case of the Tsarnaev brothers, we had the telephone
number outside the country, and we wanted to see whether the connection
had been made, so there was direction in that case. But this is
triggered by not just going through the database and looking at who
Americans are calling and trying to figure something out, it is
triggered by a known foreign terrorist's telephone number, and we
searched to see whom they may have contacted in the United States.
Now, the FISA Court only allows this data to be queried when there is
a reasonable articulable suspicion--or RAS, as we call it--based on
specific facts; that the basis for the query is associated with a
foreign terrorist or terrorist organization. If the NSA can't make that
case to the courts, that RAS is never authorized to go forward. The NSA
is not searching through records to see whom ordinary Americans are
calling; they are only looking for the terrorist links based upon the
connection to a phone number known to be a terrorist phone number.
Now, my good friend, the Senator from Maine, spoke about the Boston
bombings. Let me go back to some comments the Director of the FBI,
Director Mueller, made earlier last year. He testified in the House
that had the program been in place before September 11, 2001, those
attacks might have been derailed. Why? Well, according to the Director
of the FBI, before 9/11, the intelligence community lost track of al-
Mihdhar. Al-Mihdhar was one of the two who lived in San Diego, and he
was tied to a terrorist group in Yemen. We lost track of al-Mihdhar,
but we knew the terrorist organization in Yemen. So if we would have
had this program in place, we could have targeted the telephone numbers
out of the cell in Yemen to see if they were contacting anybody in the
United States--and they were contacting al-Mihdhar--and we could have
put the connection together and found al-Mihdhar after we lost him in
flight to the United States.
I think Director Mueller said we saw on 9/11 what happens when the
right information is not put together. If this program had been in
place, then it could have provided the necessary link between the safe
house in Yemen and al-Mihdhar in San Diego.
For those who claim this program served no purpose prior to 9/11,
here is the Director of the FBI saying it would have. Then we have the
Boston Marathon bombing, and the program told us there was no terrorist
link.
Then we come to the 2009 New York City subway bombing plot. In early
September 2009, while monitoring the activities of an Al Qaeda
terrorist group in Pakistan, NSA noted contact from an individual in
the United States who the FBI subsequently identified as Colorado-based
Najibullah Zazi. Section 215 provided important lead information that
helped thwart this plot.
I wish to say this one more time to my colleagues: This program
works. It has worked. It has stopped attacks because we have been able
to identify an
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individual before they carried out the attack.
Now, the threshold for my colleagues who say this program has not
served any useful purpose, meaning we have to have an attack to be able
to prove we thwarted an attack--that is not why we have this program in
place. We are trying to get ahead of the terrorist act. In the case of
the subway bombings in New York, we did that in 2009.
There was a Chicago terrorist investigation in 2009. David Coleman
Headley, a Chicago businessman and dual U.S. and Pakistan citizen, was
arrested by the FBI as he tried to depart Chicago O'Hare Airport to go
to Europe. At the time of his arrest, Headley and his colleagues, at
the behest of Al Qaeda, were plotting to attack the Danish newspaper
that published the unflattering cartoons of Prophet Mohammed. Section
215 metadata analysis was used along with other FBI authorities to
investigate Headley's overseas associates and their involvement in
Headley's activities.
I am not sure how it gets any clearer than this. We have an
individual who is radicalized, who intends to carry out an act, who has
overseas connections that we never would have understood without
section 215. I think that as my good friend from Maine knows, when we
connect one dot, typically it leads to another dot and that leads to
another dot. To say to law enforcement, to say to our intelligence
community that we are not going to give you the tools to connect these
dots is to basically stand up in front of the American people and say
that we are supposed to keep you safe, but we are not going to do that.
So I thank my good friend, the Senator from Maine, for his support.
I say to my colleagues, I hope we are going to be able to reinstitute
this program shortly after lunch tomorrow. Hopefully, we will be able
to do it with three amendment votes and a final passage vote. One will
be a substitute to the full bill. It has all the USA FREEDOM Act
language, with two changes. It would require the telecom companies to
provide 6 months' notification of any change in the retention program
of their company. That language was the suggestion of the Senator from
Maine, and it works extremely well.
The second piece of the substitute amendment will deal with the
certification of the Director of National Intelligence that we have
made the technological changes necessary for the telecom companies to
actually query that data they are holding.
There will be two additional amendments. The first one will be to
change the transition period from 6 months to 12 months, and I think
the Senator from Maine would agree with me that--I would like to see it
longer--anything longer than 6 months is beneficial as we talk about
the safety and security of the American people.
The last amendment is the change in the amicus language or the friend
of the court language. I will get into that in a little while. The
current bill says the courts shall--``shall'' means they will do it.
The administrator of the court has provided us with language that they
think will allow the court the flexibility, when they need a friend of
the court, to solicit a friend of the court in FISA Court but not
require them, with the word ``shall,'' to always have a friend of the
court.
Again, I think, as my good friend from Maine knows, the process we go
through in section 215 through the FISA Court in many cases is an
accelerated process. Any delay can defeat the purpose of what we are
doing; that is, trying to be in front of an attack versus in the back
of an attack. I say one last time for my colleagues, NSA, under the
metadata program, collects a few things: They collect the telephone
number, they collect a date, they collect the duration of time that the
call took place. They don't get content. They don't get the person's
name. They have no idea whose number it is. Were they to tie a domestic
number to a foreign terrorist number, that then goes directly to the
FBI because they say to the Bureau: We have a suspicious American
because they have communicated with a terrorist, at which time it is
out of the 215 program for the purposes of investigation of the
individual. If there was ever a need to find out whose telephone number
it was or if there was a need to see content, that would be sought by
the FBI under an investigation through the normal court processes that
are not part of the 215 program. Section 215 is limited to a telephone
number, with no identifier for whose number it is, the collection of
the date, and the duration of the call.
I think the Senator from Maine would agree with me. I would just as
soon see the program stay at NSA, but that decision is a fait accompli.
It is going to transition out. We would just like to make sure we have
enough time so this can seamlessly happen versus an artificial date of
6 months and not knowing whether it can happen.
I thank the Senator from Maine.
Mr. President, I yield the floor.
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