[Congressional Record Volume 160, Number 54 (Thursday, April 3, 2014)]
[House]
[Pages H2861-H2885]
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SAVE AMERICAN WORKERS ACT OF 2014
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Ms. Foxx). Pursuant to clause 1(c) of rule
XIX, further consideration of the bill (H.R. 2575) to amend the
Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to repeal the 30-hour threshold for
classification as a full-time employee for purposes of the employer
mandate in the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act and replace
it with 40 hours, will now resume.
The Clerk read the title of the bill.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. When proceedings were postponed on
Wednesday, April 2, 2014, 1 hour and 46 minutes of debate remained on
the bill, as amended.
The gentleman from Indiana (Mr. Young) has 54\1/2\ minutes remaining,
and the gentleman from New York (Mr. Rangel) has 51\1/2\ minutes
remaining.
Without objection, the gentleman from Arkansas (Mr. Griffin) will
control the time of the gentleman from Indiana, and the gentleman from
Michigan (Mr. Levin) will control the time of the gentleman from New
York.
There was no objection.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair recognizes the gentleman from
Arkansas.
Mr. GRIFFIN of Arkansas. Madam Speaker, I yield myself such time as I
may consume.
I rise today in support of H.R. 2575, the Save American Workers Act.
This Act would restore the traditional 40-hour definition of a full-
time job.
Washington may think that it knows best, but that is simply not true.
This provision in ObamaCare is a perfect example of how the law hurts
the very people it was intended to help. In Arkansas, we try to apply a
little common sense. We all know 30 hours isn't full time, but that is
what ObamaCare says, and no one seems to know why. We had a hearing in
the Ways and Means Committee, and many of those who testified were
puzzled as to why 30 hours was chosen. Even in France, a full-time job
is 35 hours a week. Because of ObamaCare's mandates and taxes,
employers are cutting workers' hours and are replacing full-time folks
with part-time folks. This is real. We have seen this in Arkansas.
Let me give you some examples:
Arkansas State University reduced some workers to a maximum of 29
hours per week. The Area Agency on Aging of Western Arkansas cut hours
for hundreds of home health aides and drivers to 28 hours per week.
Pulaski Technical College limited hours for adjunct faculty, directly
impacting students' education choices.
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Just yesterday, I received a letter from the Arkansas Hospitality
Association. They say ObamaCare's 30-hour rule will hurt roughly
100,000 hospitality workers.
These are folks who are working hard, playing by the rules, and
trying to make it. All they want is a fair shot at success. That is
what they deserve, but ObamaCare has taken that away.
According to research by the Hoover Institution, this ObamaCare rule
puts 2.6 million workers making under $30,000 a year at risk. Almost 90
percent of these workers do not have college degrees. Over 60 percent
of them are women. These are good, hardworking Americans, but they may
lose their hours or even their jobs thanks to ObamaCare.
Wasn't this law supposed to help people get health insurance? But
what are they getting? They are getting no insurance and less pay.
Incredible.
I want to thank my colleague and good friend, Mr. Young, for
introducing this important bill, and I urge my colleagues to support
this bipartisan solution that will help people keep their jobs and
higher wages.
Madam Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. LEVIN. Madam Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
The gentleman who has just spoken has it backwards. What would hurt
American workers is not the Affordable Care Act. Millions have signed
up to be covered. What would hurt American workers is this bill.
I said yesterday--and no one has refuted it--this bill would mean
that 1 million people, according to CBO, would lose their employer-
based health insurance. By definition, these are people who are
working. They would lose their employer-based health insurance. That is
what CBO has estimated, and no one has refuted it.
It would increase the number, according to CBO, of uninsured by half
a million. No one has refuted this.
CBO also says that it would add $74 billion to the deficit--again,
this is CBO--and no one on the Republican side has refuted this.
This would put five times more people at risk of adverse effects than
would be true under any other circumstance.
So, essentially, you have a bill that would cost 1 million people
their employer-based health insurance, would increase the number of
uninsured by about half a million, and would add $74 billion to the
deficit.
Instead of talking about unemployment insurance, instead of talking
about minimum wage, instead of talking about immigration legislation,
we have a bill up today that would have these adverse consequences.
We would be passing a bill that will never go anywhere in the Senate,
and because we aren't acting on these other measures, they are
spreading out debate on this bill for 2 days. When it leaves here, it
goes nowhere. It will be vetoed by the President, if it ever passed the
Senate, which it never will.
So this is worse than an exercise in futility. This is an exercise in
doing harm, when ACA is bringing benefits to millions and millions of
people. It is deeply unfortunate.
Madam Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that the remainder of my time
be controlled by the gentleman from Washington (Mr. McDermott).
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the
gentleman from Michigan?
There was no objection.
Mr. GRIFFIN of Arkansas. Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the
gentleman from Oklahoma (Mr. Mullin).
Mr. MULLIN. I would like to thank my colleague from Arkansas for
bringing this to the people's attention.
Madam Speaker, it is almost funny. The President wants to take
something that is the heartbeat of America--and that is our work
ethic--and redefine it by saying that 30 hours is considered full time
now. What are we teaching the generations that are coming behind us if
we say you can work less and still be considered full time?
The backbone of this country was created by entrepreneurs and
individuals that got up and worked hard, worked long hours, and they
did what it took to be successful.
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Now, this President has given the generation coming behind us, which
is my five kids, and redefining what is called full time by saying it
is okay to work 30 hours because it is convenient to a piece of
legislation that is bankrupting this country called ObamaCare.
Now, what is it that we are really trying to teach this generation?
Are we trying to teach this generation that staying home and working
fewer hours is okay?
My colleagues on the opposite side stood up and said that it is good
for people to work less hours because they can spend more time at home,
but yet the people this is going to affect want to work more. They are
trying to pull themselves out of the situations they are in.
My goal as a father is to teach my kids the value of work. We want to
make sure our kids get a great education. I get that. But what is an
education without a work ethic?
And yet this administration, the one that is trying to say they are
going to protect the youth, is making excuses and excuses and excuses
for them to sit home and be okay with 30 hours a week.
Being okay isn't what drove this country to be the greatest country
in the world. We are better than okay. We are above being okay. We are
the best, and it is because of our work ethic. This shouldn't be used
as a political ploy by this President.
I urge my colleagues to support this bill.
Mr. McDERMOTT. Madam Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may
consume.
Madam Speaker, on a rainy September day in 2008, a constituent of
mine named Ingrid was badly injured after a terrible fall in her home.
She was rushed to the emergency room, where she was cared for and her
life was spared, yet Ingrid came out of that experience stuck with a
$23,000 hospital bill because she couldn't afford to have health
insurance. A few months later, Ingrid was forced to sell her home to
pay off that enormous hospital bill.
Today, on a rainy day in April of 2014, there is a different story to
tell. It is a rainy day in Seattle, not here. It is the story of the
Affordable Care Act, the story of 7.1 million mothers and sons, fathers
and daughters, who have a newfound sense of health security and peace
of mind.
That is 7.1 million honest, hardworking Americans, in addition to the
2 million young adults who are protected by staying on their parents'
plan, in addition to the millions more who are now covered through the
Children's Health Insurance Program and Medicaid expansion. One of them
is Ingrid.
Ingrid's life is vastly different now from what it was in 2008. She
still is one of the hardest working people her friends and neighbors
have ever met. She still loves the outdoors and drives a pickup truck,
but today, she is happy, healthy, and covered because of the ACA.
So as this Chamber, for the 52nd time, considers a radical and
extremist Republican bill to kill the Affordable Care Act, I stand with
millions of people who have been covered because of the ACA and the
millions who still need health security. I stand in opposition to the
idea that this Nation is incapable of guaranteeing health security for
all its citizens.
Republicans have no plan to cover the American people. Speaker
Boehner earlier this week would not commit to releasing a Republican
plan until after the election. How transparent can you be? Proof that
this is political.
So the introduction of this bill is simply surrender in the face of
the health care crisis in America. How else can you explain the
Republicans' introduction of a bill that cancels the health insurance
policies of 1 million Americans? That sounds like surrender to me.
How else can you explain a bill that raises the deficit by $75
billion? More surrender.
How else can you explain a bill that puts five times the number of
American workers at risk of losing hours at work? How else do you
explain a bill that does anything but dare employers to slash work
hours for workers in order to avoid the responsibility to offer health
insurance coverage?
How can they say this bill solves a problem of employers cutting
hours and refusing benefits when it really only makes it worse?
It is unconditional surrender by the Republicans, pure and simple, to
force yet another vote on a bill that has no chance of becoming law.
There isn't one chance in a million.
One thing I learned in medicine was you never say never, but this is
one time I can say it. It will never, ever pass the Congress. It is a
bill crafted purely to appeal to the Koch brothers and the producers of
FOX News, rather than forged to protect honest Americans like Ingrid.
The latest Republican bill also denies a confirmed truth; the ACA is
succeeding in its primary mission to expand access to quality health
care for each and every American.
So make no mistake. I have got news for you. The ACA is not going
away. It is not going away. It is here to stay.
The mission before the Congress now should be--in fact, must be--to
move forward to further implement the ACA and to improve the law, where
needed.
I talked to Bill Frist about a year ago, former Republican leader of
the Senate. He said: Don't repeal; fix.
That is what we ought to be about doing--but we are not doing that--
in order to guarantee not just access for each and every American, but
to lower health care costs across the board; yet this rather perverse
bill raises health care costs for everyone by increasing the number of
uninsured. That is surrender, pure and simple surrender.
It is surrendering to an idea that our Nation is no longer capable of
accomplishing great things and surrendering to the idea that America,
the richest and the most advanced country on the Earth, can't guarantee
that its citizens won't lose their homes when they get sick. That is
what you are admitting by this bill.
You are saying they have to choose between food on the breakfast
table instead of medicine on their bedside table. That, in my view, is
a situation that has no explanation, other than the fact that you have
surrendered. You have given up the idea that America can take care of
its own people.
It was a choice that Ingrid once had to make, but she will never have
to make again. That is what is true about the ACA. She has health care
coverage. That is what is right about the ACA, and this bill under
consideration, H.R. 2575, has nothing to do with what is either true or
right.
I urge my colleagues to vote ``no,'' and I reserve the balance of my
time.
Mr. GRIFFIN of Arkansas. Madam Speaker, I yield myself such time as I
may consume.
Madam Speaker, I think it is instructive to think about what this
bill does in the context of the ACA.
ObamaCare defines full time as 30 hours. That doesn't surprise me
coming from this administration; but we all know that just because
Washington says it is so, doesn't make it so.
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Thirty hours isn't full time. When we asked some experts who
testified in Ways and Means, they had no idea where the 30 hours came
from. They surmised that people were sitting around at the White House
and just said 30 is a good number. They could have said 20. How about
10? How about 1 hour a week is full time?
If we tried to change it, and it was 1 hour, of course people that
had insurance would have their situation changed. But this is about
what is full time and what isn't.
The French consider 35 hours full time. Can we not at least agree
that in this country 40 hours used to be full time?
That is the issue.
Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to my good friend from Illinois (Mr.
Rodney Davis).
Mr. RODNEY DAVIS of Illinois. Madam Speaker, we are here yet again
talking about another failed aspect of ObamaCare. It is simply
unacceptable that a law meant to improve our health care system has not
only failed to do that, it has actually become a job killer for this
country.
The need to change the 30-hour workweek is personal.
My dad started out working at a local McDonald's as an hourly
employee and eventually worked his way up to become a franchise owner.
Not only did my dad teach me that anyone could achieve the American
Dream if
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they just worked hard enough, but he also taught me that policies,
policies passed right here in this Chamber, have real-life
consequences.
If this provision is not fixed, workers are going to see fewer hours,
which means they are going to see smaller paychecks. Studies show that
there could be upwards of 2 million less full-time workers by 2017 and
the potential to short workers out of $75 billion in wages.
Supporters of ObamaCare want the American people to believe that we
are just wasting our time talking about changing ObamaCare and that we
should just simply move on. I want folks in the 13th District of
Illinois to know I will not move on. I will not quit talking about the
complete failure of ObamaCare, and I will continue to advocate for
commonsense fixes to this disastrous bill which will protect
hardworking Americans in my district.
I also want to point out, you are going to hear a lot of discussion
from the other side of the aisle that this will take hardworking
Americans off of employer-based insurance. I want to remind my
colleagues that the architect of ObamaCare, Zeke Emanuel, it was
reported just a few weeks ago that he expected that the private
insurance-based health care system, coverage system, would be gone by
the year 2025. Well, that means the employer-based health care system
will be gone by the year 2025.
He also said he expects 1,000 hospitals to close. I ask my
colleagues, which hospitals, especially those like in my small town of
Taylorville, Illinois, which is our largest employer? Which hospitals
will close?
Mr. McDERMOTT. Madam Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from
Maryland (Mr. Van Hollen).
Mr. VAN HOLLEN. Madam Speaker, last night in the House Budget
Committee, we had a big debate, and at the end of the debate, we voted
on the House Republican budget.
During that debate, there was a lot of talk about how we can reduce
our long-term deficits. Our Republican colleagues in their budget said
they didn't want to close one special interest tax break to help reduce
our long-term deficit. They would rather cut the budget that helps
provide for our kids' education. They wanted to reopen, in their
budget, the doughnut hole so seniors with high prescription drug costs
will pay $1,200 more per year.
So they were willing to do all that, but they wouldn't close a single
tax loophole. But they said they cared about reducing the deficit. Now,
lo and behold, we have a bill on the floor of the House that, in one
fell swoop, if it is voted on, will increase the deficit by $74
billion.
Republicans have a rule that they put into the rules of the House
that says you can't do that. You shouldn't be increasing the deficit.
There should be some offset. You should cut somewhere else. We think
you should also be able to cut some tax expenditures for very special
interests. But the idea is that we shouldn't be doing things that
increase the deficit. But those rules were waived for this, a little
special wand in the Rules Committee: we are not going to abide by the
rules, and so $79 billion increase to the deficit.
Now, here is the really interesting thing. We had a debate last night
in the Budget Committee about the Affordable Care Act. We made the
point that the Republican claim that their budget is balanced in year
10 is totally inconsistent with the claim that they want to get rid of
the Affordable Care Act, and here is why:
In the Republican budget--and we all hope it will come to the floor
next Thursday. In the Republican budget, they get rid of all the
benefits for people in the Affordable Care Act. Right? They get rid of
the tax credits that help more Americans purchase insurance. They get
rid of the provision that says you can keep your child on your
insurance policy until age 26. They get rid of that. But you keep very
important parts of the Affordable Care Act. You keep all the revenues,
$1 trillion in revenues. And you know what else you keep? You keep all
the Medicare savings. In fact, you have $2 trillion embedded in the
Affordable Care Act in your budget from the Affordable Care Act.
Today is the smoking gun, because if you pass this bill, the budget
that was claimed to be balanced yesterday in the Budget Committee is no
longer in balance. You know why? You claimed that in year 10, under
your budget, in year 10, that you would have a surplus of $5 billion.
But that's not true, because you can't at the same time claim with a
straight face that you are getting rid of the Affordable Care Act
because the Affordable Care Act provides, as I said, $2 trillion in
your own budget.
In that year 10, when you pass this, $9 billion disappears from the
Treasury in year 10. So today, by your own accounting, the budget that
Republicans claimed to be balanced last night in the Budget Committee
today will already be unbalanced, and that is just getting rid of a
little piece of the Affordable Care Act. If you get rid of all of it,
then you get rid of all the revenues that are in your budget, and you
get rid of the savings in your budget, and your budget will not
possibly balance.
So, Madam Speaker, it is a fraud to claim that the Republican budget
balances and, at the same time, for Republicans to say they are in
favor of getting rid of all of the Affordable Care Act. Both things
cannot be true at the same time.
So either Republicans level with the American people that their
budget is not in balance--and starting today, it won't be, by their own
terms--or they acknowledge to the American people that they have gotten
rid of all the good stuff in the Affordable Care Act, the stuff that
helps people afford health care, but they kept all the savings.
So the moment of truth is today. The smoking gun is today. We had
this big debate. I hope the Budget Committee members on the Republican
side will come down here and fess up.
Mr. GRIFFIN of Arkansas. Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the
gentleman from Iowa (Mr. King).
Mr. KING of Iowa. Madam Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding
and, also, Mr. Young for his authorship of this bill.
It changed dramatically what I had to say when I came down here when
I heard that the Republican endeavor to reestablish the 40-hour
workweek, which is a practical thing that is good for people, is a
fraud. A fraud? People that have been the advocates for ObamaCare are
using the word ``fraud''?
Mr. VAN HOLLEN. Will the gentleman yield, because that is not what I
said was the fraud.
Mr. KING of Iowa. No, I won't yield. I heard what the gentleman had
to say.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Maryland will suspend.
The gentleman from Iowa will suspend.
Point of Order
Mr. VAN HOLLEN. Madam Speaker, I ask for a point of order.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Maryland may state his
point of order.
Mr. VAN HOLLEN. Madam Speaker, what recourse, if any, do I have when
the gentleman misstated my point totally?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair will not provide an advisory
opinion.
Mr. VAN HOLLEN. Well, if the gentleman would yield, we could clarify
it, but apparently he won't.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman has not yielded.
The gentleman from Iowa is recognized.
Mr. KING of Iowa. Madam Speaker, may I inquire as to how much time I
might have?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Iowa has 1 minute and 25
seconds remaining.
Mr. KING of Iowa. Madam Speaker, the gentleman used the term
``fraud.''
It is ironic that ObamaCare itself has been so misrepresented to the
American people that, for the top three things that were stated by
those who advocated for ObamaCare--if you like your policy, you can
keep it; if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, and, by the
way, we are going to save these families $2,500 a year. There is not a
single family in America that that promise has been kept for, and yet I
hear the word ``fraud'' from the other side of the aisle.
It is not very far down to Mount Vernon where, at least by legend, it
is alleged that George Washington was asked who chopped down the cherry
tree. He said: I cannot tell a lie. I chopped down the cherry tree.
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Well, calling the Affordable Care Act the ``Affordable Care Act'' is
not true. George Washington could not utter these words. He might be
able to say the ``Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act,'' because
that is technically the name for it, but to utter those words and try
to tell the American people it is affordable by anybody is not true,
and I don't think George Washington could state that.
So we are watching here as people have jobs where they get paid
overtime, 56 hours a week, 45 hours a week. They are getting paid time-
and-a-half over 40 hours because that is the standard workweek, and now
we see ObamaCare dropped it down to 30.
Employers did the rational thing, and we are hearing that that gap
between 30 and 40 cancels insurance policies. It doesn't cancel any
insurance policies. Instead, it gives people an opportunity to work,
work longer, earn overtime, and for the employers and the employees to
keep their contract with each other.
I strongly support this bill, H.R. 2575.
Mr. McDERMOTT. Madam Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. GRIFFIN of Arkansas. Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the
gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Schock).
Mr. SCHOCK. Madam Speaker, I rise in support of H.R. 2575, the Save
American Workers Act.
Simply put, this bill just reestablishes what most Americans think is
full-time work--40 hours. It is what I grew up knowing. It was what my
parents and grandparents grew up knowing.
Interestingly, we have been talking a lot about jobs here in America.
The President continues to call on Congress to pass more jobs
legislation. Well, let's look at jobs in his home State, where I hail
from in Illinois.
The Illinois Policy Institute, since 2011, says that Illinois has
lost 66,000 jobs just in retail, food, and beverage since 2011.
Ironically, that is more job loss than job gains--jobs added--in every
sector in the President's home State. His unemployment in his home
State in Illinois stands at 8.7 percent, a full 2 percentage points
higher than the national average. And among young people and
minorities, it is even worse. Among African American men, the rate of
unemployment is 19.6 percent; among Hispanics, over 11 percent; and
among young men and women, young people, ambitious people, a whopping
30 percent rate of unemployment.
Six years since the economy tanked, 5 years into the Obama
administration, 4 years after ObamaCare has become law, this is what we
are left with.
Now, I recently met with a manufacturer in Quincy, Illinois, who had
me meeting with several hundred of his employers--Knapheide
Manufacturing, people that they like, people who are doing a good job,
people who are getting paid a fair wage, people who like their job, but
people whose jobs are being cut back by 25 percent because of the
Affordable Care Act. In true dollars and cents, this is about $330 a
month that they are losing in take-home pay. Now, to put this in
perspective, every time the President gets on Air Force One, it costs
about 500 times that amount for every hour on Air Force One.
I would suggest the best jobs bill that Congress can pass is a jobs
bill that insures people who have a job and like it can keep it, and
that is what this jobs bill does.
I urge passage.
Mr. McDERMOTT. Madam Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may
consume.
A little history might be helpful here. There was a time in this
country where people worked 60 hours a week, 7 days a week, 6 days a
week. The only reason we have a 40-hour week at all were labor unions
who went out and struck and forced the process to get a 40-hour
workweek.
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They also were the ones who created the health care system in this
country after the Second World War. People didn't have health insurance
prior to that. When the President said, we can't have an increase in
wages, that we can't have an increase in benefits, that prices can't go
up, the labor unions said, well, let's have something called a benefits
package.
The benefits package that was created in the middle forties included
health care and pensions. It came from the union movement. They are the
ones that stood in the rain and the sleet and the snow on the picket
lines to get these changes.
Now, we have a law that comes in and says, let's deal with everybody
in this country, and the judgment of this Congress was that an employer
had the responsibility to provide health insurance for his or her
employees if they worked 30 hours a week. That was considered full
time.
It doesn't change the other laws, the labor laws or any of the other
things. It is for the purpose of this act that employers must consider
their people full time if they work 30 hours.
Now, if employers don't care, if they say, well, let me figure out
how I can cheat my people out of any benefits, I am going to drop them
down to 29 hours--well, you know, there are people like that. But the
law says, if do you that, then you have to pay a penalty for everybody
you didn't cover.
So we tried in every way possible to make it possible to give people
flexibility. But this law will not work, according to the American
Enterprise Institute, without a mandate that everybody be covered.
We are not changing the labor law. We are not changing overtime
rules. We are not changing any of that stuff. We are saying, for the
purpose of this law, an employer must cover anybody who works 30 hours.
And if they don't care about their employees, if they run a restaurant,
and they don't want their employees to be healthy, knock them all down
to 29 hours, and let them come in sick. Then you have got a restaurant
where you are going to eat lunch, and the employees haven't been able
to see a doctor. That is what you are asking for.
We are saying everybody in this country ought to have health
insurance, and they ought to have the access to go to a doctor when
they need it. So this business about we are somehow destroying the work
ethic in this country and all that kind of nonsense is simply nonsense.
That is not what this is about. This is about another way to destroy
the act. And you know it. We know it. And the world should understand
that this is the 52nd attempt to repeal the law, to undermine it so it
will not work. I urge people to vote ``no.''
I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. GRIFFIN of Arkansas. Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the
gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Dent).
Mr. DENT. Madam Speaker, I rise in strong support of this legislation
today, the Save American Workers Act.
Let's face it. The health care law has redefined what it means to be
a full-time worker in this country. Notwithstanding the comments of my
colleague from Washington, I must disagree with what he has been saying
about it.
This bill does not in any way repeal the health care law. What it
does do, it amends the law. It does not end it. Many of my colleagues
on the other side of the aisle have said, ``Amend it; don't end it.''
This amends it. Let's be very clear about that.
In my district, let me tell you who is affected by this. Cafeteria
workers who work in school districts, like East Penn School District or
the Southern Lehigh School District, they are getting their hours
reduced below 30.
I have a major national employer who just opened a major distribution
facility in my district with over 500 employees. They have over 50,000
people nationwide. More than half of their employees are part time.
Many of those are being reduced below 30 hours per week as a result of
this law.
This is a targeted fix. We know that these hourly workers are going
to see wage reductions up to 25 percent as a direct result of the law.
There are consequences to this law.
It is not about some employers wanting to cheat their employees,
quite frankly. It is about many employers not being able to afford the
people they have. If they don't reduce their hours, many will be laid
off. They will have no wages at all. That is the worst of all worlds.
But that is a real consequence of this particular law. We are all
hearing it in our districts.
And, by the way, we should point out one other thing too. The folks
who are most directly impacted by this particular provision of the
health care law
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are the young, are women. They are the ones who are more likely to be
affected by this. There is no question about that. And I think we
should be clear on those who are most directly impacted.
There was a Hoover Institution study that pointed that out, that the
young, women, and those without a college education are the most likely
to be impacted by the loss of hours, loss of wages. That means less
money in their pockets.
We are having a debate about the minimum wage over in the Senate
right now. Well, why don't we talk about letting people work, letting
them work more hours than what this law allows them to.
I urge my colleagues to support the Save American Workers Act.
Mr. McDERMOTT. I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. GRIFFIN of Arkansas. Madam Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the
gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Hurt).
Mr. HURT. I thank the gentleman for yielding, and I thank him for his
leadership on this important issue.
Madam Speaker, I rise today in support of the Save American Workers
Act. This important bill will restore the traditional 40-hour
definition of full-time employment as it relates to the President's
health care law.
Under the Affordable Care Act, the 30-hour rule has resulted in fewer
jobs and has reduced working hours for Virginians and for Americans,
putting 2.6 million workers with a median income of under $30,000 at
risk of losing their jobs and losing their working hours.
In Virginia's Fifth District, we have heard from many constituents
who have seen their hours cut due to this 30-hour rule. When hours are
cut and wages are cut, the American people suffer. I urge my colleagues
to support this important bill so that America can get back to work.
Mr. McDERMOTT. I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. GRIFFIN of Arkansas. Madam Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the
gentlelady from Kansas (Ms. Jenkins), my friend, and I ask unanimous
consent that she control the remainder of my time.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the
gentleman from Arkansas?
There was no objection.
Ms. JENKINS. I thank the gentleman for yielding.
Madam Speaker, I would like to commend the gentleman from Indiana,
Congressman Young, for introducing this important legislation and
Chairman Camp for making it a top priority.
We have heard from employees and employers alike about the negative
consequences of the employer mandate penalty. More specifically, we
have heard firsthand that defining a full-time employee as one who
works no more than 30 hours per week hurts the ability of employers to
hire workers and grow their businesses, and it hurts the efforts of
low-wage workers trying to enter the middle class.
Even though the President has unilaterally delayed the employer
mandate twice, employers are already reacting to the employer mandate
by reducing their employee hours. I spoke with one business owner in my
district this week who told me that although he will not reduce the
hours of current employees, he has not hired a single employee for more
than 30 hours of work per week in over a year. Additionally, he told me
that the number of his employees working 40 hours per week has
naturally declined by 25 percent and that he will continue to replace
these full-time employees with part-time employees.
It is also concerning that the employer mandate penalty is
disproportionately affecting Americans who can least afford it--women,
young people, and low-wage earners. A study done by the Hoover
Institution concluded that Americans most at risk of having their hours
reduced are the 2.6 million Americans who currently work over 30 hours
but have an income slightly above poverty level. Madam Speaker, 1.64
million of these folks are women and another 1.56 million are young
people.
I am proud to support this legislation to restore certainty to our
employers and opportunity to employees by defining a full-time workweek
as 40 hours.
Madam Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Society for Human Resource Management,
Alexandria, VA, April 2, 2014.
House of Representatives,
Washington, DC.
Dear Representative: On behalf of the Society for Human
Resource Management (SHRM) and our 275,000 members, I urge
you to support the ``Save American Workers Act'' (H.R. 2575)
when it is brought to the House floor for a vote tomorrow,
Thursday, April 3. Specifically, H.R. 2575 would amend the
Internal Revenue Code to modify the definition of a full-time
employee from 30 hours to 40 hours of service per week for
purposes of the employer mandate, which requires employers to
provide health care coverage for their employees under the
Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA).
As you may know, SHRM is the world's largest HR membership
organization devoted to human resource management. SHRM
members implement critical workplace policies every day. To
that end, employers are encountering difficulties
implementing the new PPACA requirements. Specifically,
defining ``full-time'' as an employee working 30 hours a week
is inconsistent with standard employment practices and
benefits coverage requirements in the U.S. and conflicts with
other federal laws. Some employers have opted to eliminate
health care coverage for part-time employees, while others
have re-engineered their staffing models to reduce employee
work hours below the 30-hour threshold that triggers the
coverage requirements. According to a recent CBO report, the
U.S. economy will have the equivalent of 2.3 million fewer
full-time workers by 2021 as a result of the PPACA--nearly
three times previous estimates. The Save American Workers Act
restores a common understanding in America, spanning over
half a century, of what constitutes full-time work.
SHRM and its members believe that effective health care
reform should expand access to coverage, while not inhibiting
or altering employer business models. The PPACA's definition
of full-time as 30 hours of service per week severely
restricts an employer's flexibility to offer a benefits
package that best meets the needs of their employees.
I strongly urge you and your colleagues in the House of
Representatives to vote in favor of the Save American Workers
Act. If you have any additional questions about how amending
the definition of a full-time employee would impact workplace
operations please do not hesitate to contact me.
Sincerely,
Mike Aitken,
Vice President of Government Affairs.
Mr. McDERMOTT. Madam Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from
Oregon (Mr. Blumenauer).
Mr. BLUMENAUER. I thank the gentleman for yielding.
Madam Speaker, I understand my friend and colleague from Maryland
(Mr. Van Hollen) was on the floor talking about the disingenuous
approach here and the discontinuity between what we are talking about
today and what we did yesterday in the Budget Committee.
It is an unusual approach to public policy. Where there is a claim
that they are, under their budget, if they are able to enact it, going
to completely eliminate the Affordable Care Act, but they are going to
keep all of the taxes, and they are going to keep the adjustment to the
Medicare Advantage Program that was such a focal point in their
campaign attacks last year. It was bad when Democrats did it with the
Affordable Care Act, but they are going to keep all of those changes.
Last week, we had, by a legislative sleight of hand, a short-term fix
for the sustainable growth rate. Now, that is the adjustment that is
made on an ongoing basis on physician reimbursement under Medicare that
has gotten wildly out of whack. It was something that I voted against
when it was first enacted. It is an annual charade that goes on here,
where we force people in the medical space to come to Washington, D.C.,
to plead against draconian cuts.
We actually had been working in the Ways and Means Committee and the
Commerce Committee on a bipartisan approach that would actually solve
this problem permanently. Then last week, we had an approach that was
advanced on the floor of the House by our friends from the majority
side that turned its back on the carefully negotiated bipartisan
solution that we were close to being able to move forward and patched
together another 1-year extension that was going to continue this abuse
of people in the medical space, having the threat of dramatic cuts
hanging over them.
And what happened? We had a vigorous debate on the floor of the
House, where it was pretty clear that this was not going to pass, where
we had the medical association and a number of medical professions just
opposed to the so-called ``doc fix'' because of the way that it was
being done, because of the short-term expedience, because cherry-
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picking items that were going to make a long-term solution even harder
and subject them to that same treatment.
It was clear to a number of us that it was very questionable whether
that would pass. It looked like there would be enough votes to defeat
it on the suspension calendar, which would require two-thirds of us to
vote in favor of it and is reserved for noncontroversial issues, but
this certainly no longer was noncontroversial.
And what happened? The Republican leadership put somebody in the
Chair. They went ahead and effectively orchestrated a voice vote that
nobody knew was coming. I know that there are Republicans that were
outraged about that treatment.
And now, what are we looking at today? We are looking at another
effort to undermine the Affordable Care Act. We have people talking
about problems with changing the definition of ``part-time
employment,'' of people having their working conditions changed for
something that--excuse me--is not going to be enforced for larger firms
until 2016 and for smaller firms until 2017.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The time of the gentleman has expired.
Mr. McDERMOTT. I yield an additional 1 minute to the gentleman from
Oregon.
Mr. BLUMENAUER. So they are conjuring up a problem here that--maybe
people will use it as an excuse for things that they want to do. But
nobody is forced to do this at this point. It is not going to take
effect for years.
Their proposed solution to probably a nonexistent problem is to blow
another hole in the budget of over $70 billion. And, oh, this isn't
paid for. It was a requirement to pay for the doc fix. But this little
maneuver, $70 billion worth, isn't paid for.
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The hypocrisy and the double-dealing here really frustrates me more
than I can explain. If we would be able to deal with things in a
straightforward fashion, let people know what they are voting on, and
try and solve real problems rather than trying to undermine the
Affordable Care Act, we would all be a lot better off.
Ms. JENKINS. Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from
Tennessee (Mrs. Black), my friend and colleague on the House Committee
on Ways and Means.
Mrs. BLACK. Madam Speaker, I would like to say thank you to my
colleague from Kansas for yielding.
Madam Speaker, ObamaCare's arbitrary 30-hour, full-time workweek puts
about 2.6 million American workers making under $35,000 a year at risk
of having their hours and wages cut. And 63 percent of those adversely
affected by this arbitrary, 30-hour rule are female workers, according
to the Hoover Institution.
It is no wonder that a majority of Americans oppose this law--and
certainly no wonder that a majority of women oppose it. For all the
talk about the supposed ``war on women,'' it is ObamaCare that is
waging a war against female workers. That is why I am proud to stand in
support of women across this country to repeal this arbitrary, 30-hour,
full-time workweek.
Mr. McDERMOTT. Madam Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from
California (Mr. Becerra).
Mr. BECERRA. I thank the gentleman for yielding.
Madam Speaker, first the facts--not the facts from this side of the
aisle, not the facts from the other party, but the facts that we get
from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, which is in charge of
telling all of us--Congress and the rest of the country--what does
legislation that is proposed by Democrats and Republicans actually
cost, and what will it actually do. They are the nonpartisan referee
that we are supposed to rely on to sort of give us the facts without
getting into these political battles.
What do the folks at the Congressional Budget Office say about this
bill? One, it will increase the deficit by $75 billion; two, around a
million American workers will lose their health insurance coverage that
they get through their employer today; and three, around five times as
many workers in America will be at risk of losing hours at work as a
result of this bill should it become law. Okay, so those are the facts
not from Republicans, not from Democrats, but from the nonpartisan CBO.
So let's now talk a little bit about those facts a bit more, because
I think a lot of folks are very confused. What the heck is going on? We
are going to lose hours at work? We are going to gain? What is going
on? Essentially it is this. We have got to figure out how we make sure
that employers who currently offer health insurance to their employees
don't say, hey, I don't want to do it anymore, so I am going to stop
offering it. How can I do that? I can make sure I keep my employees
employed for less hours than is required by the law.
This bill says if you have that threshold that the number of hours
you have to work is 30, well, a whole bunch of employers are going to
say, hey, I can game the system if I drop the number of hours my
employee works at the job to less than 30. That is true.
The problem is this. The vast majority of Americans don't work 31
hours, 32 hours a week. They work 40. A lot of Americans, in fact, work
42, 44. They work overtime. So what the Affordable Care Act did was
made sure that most employers who currently offer employer-covered
insurance to their employees continue to do it because very few
employers are going to say, I can game the system by dropping my 40-
hour worker to 29 hours. That is 11 quality hours, unless you were just
letting these folks just sit on a couch.
What happens if you raise the number of work hours to qualify for the
affordable care coverage to 40 hours? Well, that is why the CBO says
about 1 million Americans will lose their insurance coverage, because
if you are working a 40-hour workweek, an employer would say, gosh, it
would be tough for me to drop you to 29 hours, it would be a lot easier
to say, I will drop you to 39\1/2\ hours, in which case I no longer
have to offer you insurance.
That is why the Congressional Budget Office said that over 1 million
Americans would lose their health insurance coverage and why it would
cost about $75 billion to do this legislation, because guess what? If
the employers are no longer offering you insurance and you still have
to go to the doctor for your child and you can't afford it anymore
because you don't have insurance, guess who gets to pay? The folks up
there in the audience in the gallery and those of us here who pay
taxes, because guess what? They will go to the emergency room, and now
they will use the Medicaid program to help cover that bill they can no
longer afford because the employer cut them back a little bit.
If we all really want to make sure Americans get to work, then let's
separate the myth from the fact. Remember 4 years ago death panels? If
the Affordable Care Act, this new health security law, takes effect,
death panels are going to decide if your grandmother gets to live. How
many death panels have you heard that have told your family member he
or she will have to die? Okay, I ask anyone in this audience, do you
have a doctor? Do you have insurance? Do you know your doctor? Ask
yourself this question: What is the name of your government doctor? You
have a doctor. Did you know your doctor works for the government? You
are going to say, no, I have known my doctor for a long time. He or she
doesn't work directly for the government. If you believe the myth, yes,
your doctor does because, remember, this was a government takeover of
health care. It was a myth.
In fact, this Affordable Care Act's law requires you to use private
health insurance coverage to get your health care through private
doctors and private hospitals. But what it does is it requires you to
do it, and it requires employers to do it, as well. That is what the
law did. It didn't say, you are going to go to a government doctor or a
government hospital.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The time of the gentleman has expired.
Mr. McDERMOTT. I yield the gentleman an additional 30 seconds.
Mr. BECERRA. I thank the gentleman.
So once you separate the facts from the myth, it becomes pretty clear
what we have to do. We have to make sure if you are an American we
reward you for your work. If you are an American and you get health
insurance through your employer, we don't want your employer to game
the system and put the burden on you now. And so what we
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want is to make it affordable for the employee and affordable for the
employer.
This bill makes it unaffordable for the employee moving forward, and
it makes it, quite honestly, for the employer, as well, because you are
losing your good workers. We need to defeat this bill and try to make
the Affordable Care Act work for everyone.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Members are reminded not to refer to
occupants of the gallery.
Ms. JENKINS. Madam Speaker, at this time, I yield 3 minutes to our
colleague from Michigan (Mrs. Miller).
Mrs. MILLER of Michigan. I thank the gentlelady for yielding the
time.
Madam Speaker, helping those without health insurance to get coverage
certainly is a very noble goal, but the method that was used to achieve
it under ObamaCare has just done so much more harm than good. And a
very vivid example of this is a provision that you are talking about
today that requires employers to provide health insurance for any
employee that works 30 hours or more a week. Their thinking must have
been that more part-time workers would receive employer-sponsored care
and that employers would not change their behavior and, simply, they
would absorb these new costs.
Well, I guess when you think like the government, maybe you would
think that you are unconcerned about costs and you are unconcerned
about balancing your books, and so that thinking sort of makes sense.
But in the real world, it just does not work. Employers need to live in
the real world. They are in business to make money, and they have to
balance their books. And these very onerous provisions of ObamaCare
make it very, very difficult for them to continue with business as
usual, to comply with the law and to stay in business. So employers
have been forced to cut workers' hours.
We also need to look for a moment, Madam Speaker, at those who have
been most negatively impacted by ObamaCare and this particular
provision of it. According to a study done by the Hoover Institution,
the 30-hour rule puts 2.6 million workers with a median income of under
$30,000 a year at risk of losing their job or having their hours cut.
And guess what? Eighty-nine percent of the impacted workers do not have
a college degree, 59 percent are between the ages of 19 and 34, and 63
percent of these workers that are so negatively impacted are women,
Madam Speaker.
So this rule impacts the most vulnerable in our economy who are just
starting to make their way in the world or who are working hard to
support their families. And do you know I didn't need a study to
actually tell me that because I am hearing it directly each and every
day from those whom I am so proud to serve.
I will just give you one example--a vivid example--of many, many that
we got, especially women who have contacted my office. This is from a
mother named Tracy in Macomb County, Michigan, who said:
My daughter who is a single mom and struggles to make ends
meet has had her hours at work cut by over 50 hours a month
so that her company doesn't have to provide her with health
care. So she is now looking for a second job, which means
less hours for her and less time, of course, that she is able
to spend with her children.
Madam Speaker, being a single mom is tough--it is really tough, and
what we do here in Washington shouldn't make it tougher. Being a small
business owner and a job creator is tough. Again, what we do here in
Washington shouldn't make it tougher. The 40-hour workweek has been the
bedrock of our economy for decades, and workers and families have come
to depend on it--that is, of course, until ObamaCare changed the rules.
It is time for us to correct this mistake and repeal this terrible
provision.
Mr. McDERMOTT. Madam Speaker, I yield 5 minutes to the gentleman from
California (Mr. Miller), my good friend.
Mr. GEORGE MILLER of California. I thank the gentleman very much for
yielding.
Madam Speaker, I rise to oppose H.R. 2575. The majority's obsession
with attacking the Affordable Care Act is unprecedented, and they have
never let the truth stand in their way. Today's bill is no exception.
Let's call this bill for what it really is. It is a big favor to
millionaires and billionaires at the expense of working families.
This legislation is perfect for the owners and CEOs of big, low-wage
companies like Walmart and McDonald's. It says that you can have your
employees work 30, 35, 39 hours a week without providing one iota of
health care coverage. That is a great deal for the Walton family, which
already has a net worth of nearly $145 billion--one family, $145
billion. And that is a great deal for the CEO of McDonald's, who makes
$9,200 an hour.
But it is a terrible deal for America's workers. It means that not a
penny of the revenues from these hugely profitable companies will go
toward supporting health insurance for the bulk of their workers. All
the while those employees continue to make as little is $7.25 an hour,
and it means that the American taxpayers will be stuck with picking up
the tab.
The Republicans have decided to bring this bill to the floor even
though they have no pay-for, which means that this is a very pure form
of deficit spending. You are incurring $75 billion worth of expenses
for the taxpayers, and you have no way to pay for it. But rather than
have these companies provide health insurance to their workers, you are
willing to add it to the deficit of the United States for the next 40
or 50 years.
I remember when that party stood for deficit reduction. Now it is
deficit creation. It is deficit creation. So let's get it straight so
everyone can understand: The American people will be paying $75 billion
more so that the likes of Walmart don't have to provide their employees
with health care. Walmart made $16 billion in profits last year. Target
made $2 billion in profits. McDonald's made more than $5 billion in
profits. And they can't afford to provide hourly employees with health
care? Give me a break.
And all of this to solve a problem that doesn't exist. Because let's
be clear: there is nothing in the Affordable Care Act that forces an
employer to cut workers' hours. In fact, the nonpartisan Congressional
Budget Office stated:
There is no compelling evidence that part-time employment
has increased as a result of the Affordable Care Act.
So, to benefit the richest of the rich, the Republicans want to pass
this bill. The very week that we learned that more than 10 million
people have gained coverage under the Affordable Care Act, the
Republicans want to strip a million people of their employer-based
health coverage, tossing them into government programs and leaving the
rest uninsured, and having the taxpayers pick up the bill.
And this is all while the Republicans continue to block a minimum-
wage increase for these very same workers--a minimum-wage increase that
Goldman Sachs says will give the economy ``a bigger than usual'' boost.
But they are not going to vote for the minimum-wage increase, is what
they tell us. So what are they going to do instead? They are going to
continue to stand on the throat of the American economy because all
over this country where we have raised the minimum wage in cities,
States, and towns, small businesses are hiring. There are more
customers on Main Street.
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But they are not going to allow that to happen nationwide. Instead,
they are going to provide $75 billion of new deficits for these
businesses who pay their taxes, for these workers who pay their taxes.
Then they will continue to block unemployment insurance, another
boost to the economy. People with unemployment insurance that has run
out--and if we extend it--they will spend that money immediately
because they have to take care of their families and they have to pay
their rent, these are customers on Main Street; but Republicans are not
going to do that.
Economists left and right tell us one of the biggest boosts to the
American economy is immigration reform, but they are not going to do
that. They are not going to give our economy that boost, but they are
going to add $75 billion to the deficit, but they are not going to let
somebody have food stamps for the deficit.
They are not going to let somebody have health care for the deficit,
but
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they are going to reward the big employers for throwing people off
their health care rolls.
This is some plan you have for America. This is some plan you have
for working families. Clearly, when the newspapers and the editorial
boards accuse you of doing nothing in Washington, they misread you.
You are doing great harm to the budget, you are doing great harm to
health care, and you are doing great harm to these low-income workers;
but you are doing a great favor for the richest of the rich in this
country.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Members are reminded to address their
remarks to the Chair and not to others in the second person.
Ms. JENKINS. Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from
West Virginia (Mrs. Capito).
Mrs. CAPITO. Madam Speaker, I rise today in strong support of this
commonsense proposal to change the Affordable Care Act definition of
full-time employment back to 40 hours per week, where it belongs.
The 40-hour workweek has been recognized for decades as the standard
for full-time employment. Small business owners, union leaders, and
individual workers have recognized that the ACA's definition of full-
time employment risks damaging the traditional 40-hour workweek and the
paychecks that those 40 hours bring.
As we have heard with the Hoover Institution study, the 30-hour rule
puts 2.6 million workers at risk of losing their jobs or losing their
work hours, harming those who can least afford to take a pay cut.
Those workers have a median income of $30,000. More than half of them
have a high school diploma or less, and more than half of them are
women. In practice, many of these workers will have to find two part-
time jobs to equal what they were bringing home.
Balancing two jobs means less time with your family, not to mention
the tremendous stress that folks who will have to go in this direction
will feel.
Passing this bill will help create jobs. One-half of small businesses
recently surveyed said they will either cut hours for full-time
employees or replace them with part-time employees.
We need to make it easier for businesses to hire full-time employees,
not harder, but the ACA's mandate and the administration's repeated
delays have only created more uncertainty for businesses and moms
throughout this country.
I urge my colleagues to join me in helping working families and
working women and job-creating small businesses by voting for the Save
American Workers Act.
Mr. McDERMOTT. Madam Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time; but
could you give us an accounting of our time?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Washington has 19\1/2\
minutes remaining. The gentlewoman from Kansas has 30\1/2\ minutes
remaining.
Ms. JENKINS. Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from
Tennessee (Mrs. Blackburn).
Mrs. BLACKBURN. Madam Speaker, I am so appreciative of the
opportunity for us to be able to come to the floor and have this
discussion today. I think our constituents are just shocked with what
they see happening because of the President's health care law. They
can't believe it.
They had heard the rhetoric from the minority leader that it was
going to create 4 million jobs. What they have found out is that it is
costing them their jobs. It is costing them wage increases. It is
costing them certainty in the job market.
I have to tell you, it really is a war on jobs. It is a war on women,
and we are seeing that because women--63 percent of those affected by
the adverse impact of the President's health care law are women.
Let me give you one example of this. I was in the grocery store
recently. I passed a lady with two children in her grocery cart, and we
chatted, nodded at each other.
The next time around, the next aisle, she said: Are you Marsha
Blackburn? I said: Yes, I am. She asked: Can I tell you my story? I
said: Absolutely.
This is her story: She worked in the office park where this grocery
store was located. Her husband is self-employed. The family's benefit
structure, insurance, was through her job, an employer with just over
50 people.
Her hours as an office manager and assistant were cut to 29 hours a
week. Her time was cut. Every week impacts her, impacts her husband. In
one day, she lost her insurance, she lost her wage increases, and she
was forced to healthcare.gov.
Also, what she had to do--she is a survivor. She said: I went to the
mall, and I went to a retailer and got a part-time job. She said: Thank
goodness I have great in-laws. They are going to help watch the
children.
Here is what is so sad: She now is working two jobs, and she is
losing time to be with those children as they are playing soccer and
baseball, as they are doing Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts, as they are
trying to get to church to sing in the choir.
She has had to rely on her in-laws to handle those, so that she can
work a second job to pay for a program that she doesn't want and pay
her taxes to a government that refuses to live within its means. I
support the SAW Act.
Mr. McDERMOTT. Madam Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from
New Jersey (Mr. Pallone).
Mr. PALLONE. Madam Speaker, I thank my colleague.
Madam Speaker, throughout this debate, Republicans have been claiming
that they are champions of working people, but that is not the case
here. This is not the Save American Workers Act; it is the Sabotaging
American Workers Act.
The Affordable Care Act is based on the premise that the large
businesses can afford to offer health coverage to their workers, and
they should do the responsible thing and offer coverage. That is only
fair.
Ninety-six percent of all businesses don't have to offer any of their
workers coverage under the ACA, but for the 4 percent of businesses
that have the means, the law says they need to do the right thing by
their full-time workers and offer them health coverage.
Republicans don't think businesses owe their employees anything at
all. The Family and Medical Leave Act, Republicans say: that is not
important. Equal pay for equal work, Republicans say: women don't
deserve that. A fair minimum wage, Republicans say: absolutely not. And
quality, affordable health care, Republicans say: Who cares?
Well, I think bigger businesses should do the right thing by their
workers, and that is what the ACA asks them to do.
So what does this bill that is before us today actually do? This bill
says big businesses could deny health coverage to someone working 39
hours a week, 52 weeks a year. That is not a part-time worker. Their
employer should provide them health coverage.
Five times more people work around 40 hours a week than work around
30 hours a week. That is why this bill will throw 1 million Americans
off of their employer's health coverage. That is why it would result in
millions and millions of workers seeing their hours cut below 40 hours
a week.
What is it--why are Republicans claiming people are losing hours
right and left because of the ACA? But the Congressional Budget Office
told them flatly, ``There is no compelling evidence that part-time
labor has increased as a result of the Affordable Care Act.''
But I doubt that means much to my Republican friends because they do
not look at the facts. We have added 8.6 million private sector jobs
since the law passed, but Republicans simply ignore that. There are
fewer part-time workers than there were before the law passed, but that
doesn't get in the way of the Republican talking points.
Madam Speaker, 7.1 million people have enrolled through the
exchanges. Millions and millions more have signed up through Medicaid
or directly with an insurer, but Republicans still claim people don't
want health insurance coverage, or they claim the numbers are made up.
The ACA is working. Millions are getting coverage for the first time.
We are adding jobs to the economy. Giving big business a green light to
drop coverage for their workers is not the way to move this country
forward.
Workers have the right to decent health care, and businesses should
help them get it. That is the fair thing, that is the right thing, and
this bill takes us in the total wrong direction.
So I urge my colleagues, vote ``no.'' This is a very bad bill for
America's
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workers. Don't let the Republicans kid you otherwise.
Ms. JENKINS. Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from
North Carolina (Mrs. Ellmers).
Mrs. ELLMERS. Madam Speaker, I thank my colleague who is working so
hard on the Ways and Means Committee and also as vice chair of our
conference.
I rise today in support of the Save American Workers Act, an
important bill that I am proud to say I am a cosponsor of as well.
Every day, we learn more and more of the dangers facing millions of
Americans due to the Affordable Care Act, or ObamaCare.
Just last week, in North Carolina, we learned that substitute
teachers will be getting their hours cut and their incomes cut because
of this irresponsible mandate. North Carolina teachers are being
notified of their cuts, and millions of hardworking Americans across
this country will work less and suffer more in order to comply with
this law.
In my own district, substitute teachers are facing the same problem.
In Lee County, an official confirmed to my office:
We are cutting the hours of our part-time people, our
substitute teachers.
Nationwide, 76 percent of public school teachers are women. This is a
direct assault on women. This so-called law is a complete and total
assault on women. More than half of the workforce today, of the 72
million women in the workforce, are the primary wage earners for their
family.
Across this country, women stand to lose the most. Sixty-three
percent of them are women, those who are at risk of losing their hours.
The facts speak for themselves. I encourage my colleagues to vote for
this bill, another changing bill, changing this very bad law known as
ObamaCare.
Mr. McDERMOTT. Madam Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Ms. JENKINS. Madam Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentlewoman from
Minnesota (Mrs. Bachmann).
Mrs. BACHMANN. Madam Speaker, I thank the gentlewoman from Kansas for
sponsoring this extremely important time we are taking today. It is so
important because this is a law, the signature piece of the President's
legislative agenda, the ObamaCare act that we are dealing with today
has impacted people's lives in such a profound way.
I am reminded of the President of the United States who, five days
before he assumed office, said he was planning to fundamentally
transform the United States of America.
We didn't know if that was rhetorical flourish or exactly what it
would mean. It has taken many forms since that time, but one thing I
didn't think I would ever see in my district on the faces of beautiful,
innocent people is a fundamental transformation.
But I can tell you very clearly, Madam Speaker, that I have seen a
fundamental transformation in the face of a lot of women, women's faces
in my district, and it is this: I am seeing them, for the first time,
not be able to look me in the eye.
There is a loss of dignity. There is a sense of shame, and there is
an embarrassment because there are women, Madam Speaker, who had full-
time jobs who could support their families, and now, they don't have
them.
They have been lost because their employer no longer can keep the
full-time jobs. I have seen women who have lost their jobs altogether.
I have seen women whose hours have been backed off to the extent that
they can hardly afford to pay the gas to go in the car to get to work.
Life has really changed for women in my district.
This isn't made up. This is real. That is the fundamental
transformation, and I am sorry to say, Madam Speaker, it is not for the
better. You see, we all hoped that, perhaps once this bill passed, that
maybe we would be proven wrong. Maybe this bill actually would help a
lot of women in our district.
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I am not denying that there aren't a few people who have been
helped--there are some--but what is remarkable is the number of men and
women who I have met who lost health insurance, who said to me:
Michele, what happened? The President promised me if I liked my plan, I
could keep it. Why can't I keep it? They have said to me: Michele, I
relied on my doctor.
One woman who called me was scheduled for cancer surgery. She was
denied. She wasn't able to go through. The hospital canceled it. Then
her doctor was changed out from under her and she was depressed. She
didn't know where she could go. We spent hours on the phone to try and
help find someone who could take care of her.
Then I got a call, Madam Speaker, from a female physician who said: I
want you to know, in my practice, I spend 90 percent of my time
speaking to my patients, diagnosing them, and giving them advice, and
now I spend 50 percent of my time doing that because I have to spend 50
percent of my time filling out paperwork.
Madam Speaker, let's listen to the women of this country and
fundamentally transform their lives for the better. That is why I
support H.R. 2575, the Save American Workers Act.
Ms. JENKINS. Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from
Washington State (Mrs. McMorris Rodgers), our honorable chair of the
Republican Conference.
Mrs. McMORRIS RODGERS. Madam Speaker, I want to thank the gentlewoman
from Kansas for her leadership on this important issue.
I rise to join in expressing strong support for H.R. 2575, the Save
American Workers Act. This is to restore the 40-hour workweek and to
save jobs. All across this country, people continue to struggle under
this economy. They see it when they look at their paycheck and their
take-home pay. They see it at the doctor's office, and they see it in
the workforce.
Today, too many hardworking Americans are feeling the impact of
higher premiums and higher deductibles. Too many people are having
their hours cut, losing their jobs, and losing their health insurance--
all because of ObamaCare. In fact, CBO recently reported that 2.5
million Americans are at risk of having their hours cut because of this
law. These are the very people that are often struggling to make ends
meet, whether it is the young people, recent college grads, or single
moms trying to provide for their families.
The President likes to suggest that his policies are helping women,
but actually what is happening is that his policies are setting women
back. Women are being hurt by these policies. Hundreds of them have
already lost their jobs in the home health care industry. Nearly 2
million people will see their hours cut or their jobs lost in the
service industries.
You know, for the first time, earlier this year with the jobs report,
we actually saw where the health care sector lost jobs where women
disproportionately are actually employed. Women, single moms, young
people who work late nights at a McDonald's drive-through, bag
groceries at the local market, or serve as teachers' aides in the
classroom will be impacted because of this law.
Women, and all across America, people succeed when our economy
succeeds, when jobs are created and you can take home more pay. That is
the definition of good policy. That is what this bill actually
achieves, and I urge my colleagues to support it.
Mr. McDERMOTT. Madam Speaker, I yield myself 30 seconds to point out
to my colleagues that CBO did not say people would lose their jobs.
They said because they have health care, they no longer have to stay in
the job that they have, and they will be able to stay home or do
something else, and that will reduce the number of hours of work. They
did not say the bill cuts them out or knocks them out of work.
Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Virginia (Mr.
Connolly).
Mr. CONNOLLY. Madam Speaker, I am listening to the stories here on
the floor. I must say I am a little surprised at this newfound
commitment on the other side of the aisle to women.
So how about raising the minimum wage for women? How about joining
with us in extending unemployment insurance for women? How about the
fact that 7.1 million Americans have enrolled in this program you don't
like, that you want to call a failure? 7.1 million of our fellow
Americans beg to differ, and a lot of them are women.
It is not true what you are selling today on the floor, I would say
to my friends, Madam Speaker. In fact, women will be the biggest
beneficiary
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of ObamaCare, protecting their families, protecting their health care,
protecting their reproductive rights, which you--I would say to my
friends on the other side of the aisle, Madam Speaker--would deny.
Other than that, yes, you are protecting women.
If we are going to be serious about this, Madam Speaker, let's
recognize the truth. The truth is this ObamaCare protects the interests
of women. This bill would undo it. In fact, the biggest victims of
legislative action, if we pass this bill today, will in fact be the
very women some of my colleagues have been talking about today.
I urge my colleagues who say they are committed to the interests of
women to vote against this bad bill and to support the expansion of
health care, especially for working women in America.
Ms. JENKINS. Madam Speaker, before I yield to the gentlewoman from
Wyoming, I just want to highlight that, according to the Bureau of
Labor Statistics, a substitute teacher earning $11.07 an hour, if that
substitute teacher's hours were cut back from 39 to 29 hours, she would
lose $125 per week, or $6,484 per year, or nearly a 26 percent pay cut.
These are the folks we are here fighting for.
With that, I yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman from Wyoming (Mrs.
Lummis).
Mrs. LUMMIS. Madam Speaker, I come from the wild West. I come from a
place of wide open opportunity. And women in the West want freedom and
liberty and the ability to create their own business. Women want to
expand the businesses they already have and play a bigger role in the
American entrepreneurial dream.
But ObamaCare makes it more affordable for women entrepreneurs to
keep their employee numbers below 50 and their employee hours below 30.
This makes no one's life better--not women entrepreneurs and not for
their women employees. In fact, two-thirds of those most at risk of
losing work hours because of ObamaCare are women.
Let's fix this. Let's save American workers. Let's pass the Save
American Workers Act.
Mr. McDERMOTT. Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Illinois (Mr. Lipinski).
Mr. LIPINSKI. Madam Speaker, I thank the gentleman for the courtesy
of yielding, especially today as I rise in support of H.R. 2575.
I was first approached about the problem with the 30-hour full time
definition by Steve Palmer, one of the owners of Palmer Place
restaurant, an institution in LaGrange, Illinois. This is a family
business committed to their community and their employees. They offer
insurance coverage to their workers when possible. Because of the
nature of the business, many of their employees are part-time and work
flexible schedules. But the ACA's definition of full-time work has put
the Palmer family's one restaurant on the cusp of being classified as a
large business. The family, thus, finds itself facing a hefty new
expense for health insurance or a fine.
This is the scenario being faced by many family-owned businesses
struggling to plan for the future. The workers at some of these
businesses are about to get a far different deal than they bargained
for when they accepted their jobs. As a result of the 30-hour rule,
some part-time employees are seeing their hours reduced.
The CBO has confirmed that shifting to a 40-hour full time definition
would lead some workers to seeing an increase in their take-home pay.
In addition to lost wages, many workers could lose scheduling
flexibility so that they won't cycle in and out of full-time status
from week to week. These are ways that workers will lose.
The administration has already acknowledged the difficulty in
implementing the employer coverage rules of the ACA through two delays
in substantial administrative changes. Clearly, the administration
knows there are problems with the employer coverage rules as currently
contained in the law. Today, it is reported that former White House
Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said: ``I don't think the employer mandate
will go into effect.''
Madam Speaker, let's do right by America's part-time workers and by
family businesses. Let's pass this bill and fix this broken part of the
ACA. That is what the American people are looking for. That is what we
should do.
Ms. JENKINS. Madam Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman from
Indiana (Mrs. Walorski).
Mrs. WALORSKI. Madam Speaker, I rise today in support of the Save
American Workers Act. ObamaCare redefines full-time employment as 30
hours per week, rather than the traditional 40 hours per week, and
mandates that any business with more than 50 full-time equivalent
employees must provide health insurance. If these businesses do not
provide insurance, they face a tax penalty.
My district is ripe for job growth. Indiana's manufacturing industry
is booming. Yet, as I travel throughout the district, I speak
frequently with business owners afraid to expand due to this rule.
Other Hoosier businessowners will be forced to lay off employees if
this 30 hour definition is not changed. Women are disproportionately
affected. Sixty-three percent of those most at risk of lost hours in my
district are female.
The Save American Workers Act will unleash job creation by repealing
this 30 hour definition and replacing it with the traditional 40 hour
definition.
I urge my colleagues to join me in supporting this bill.
Mr. McDERMOTT. Mr. Speaker, would you give us an accounting of the
time?
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Poe of Texas). The gentleman from
Washington has 12 minutes remaining, and the gentlewoman from Kansas
has 19 minutes remaining.
Mr. McDERMOTT. I reserve the balance of my time.
Ms. JENKINS. Mr. Speaker, I would like to yield 2 minutes to the
gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Kelly), a colleague on the House Ways
and Means Committee.
Mr. KELLY of Pennsylvania. Mr. Speaker, I rise today in strong
support of H.R. 2575. You know, sometimes you have to figure out, first
of all, where did you come from to find out to where you got.
I was trying to understand the 40-hour workweek. Where could it
possibly have started? How did we come to accept that, and for 70-some
years that is full-time employment, 40 hours? I found out it was
actually the product of the Depression. When they did the Fair Labor
Standards Act, they said we need to have a measure, so it will be 44
hours--part of the New Deal, by the way. In 1940, they changed it to 40
hours a week was full-time employment. Then, all of a sudden, ObamaCare
comes along and the New Deal has been replaced by a bad deal. We told
people, no, no, no. It is not 40; it is 30 hours. That is what full-
time employment is.
Now, when you go back to 1937 and 1940, what were they trying to do?
They were trying to get America back to work. It was after the Great
Depression, so it was about getting folks back to work. Now, you fast-
forward to today, and it is not about getting people back to work. It
is about getting ObamaCare to work.
This makes absolutely no sense. Who does it hurt the most? It has
hurt low-income and middle-income people. 2.6 million folks have been
affected by either losing a job or losing hours.
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So you have got to scratch your head and say, Wait a minute. If we
are really trying to get America back to work, why would we take their
hours from them? Why would we slash their workweeks by 25 percent and
think it is going to work? It has nothing to do with working people. It
has to do with making ObamaCare work.
I have got to tell you that we have the New Deal that got replaced
with a bad deal, and now we have H.R. 2575. Do you know what it is? It
is a good deal. This is a good deal. With 435 Members, any one of us
could say that this just doesn't make sense right now for the folks we
represent. Why would we do this to them? Why would we take their work
hours away? Why would we put in jeopardy 2.6 million people just in an
effort to make ObamaCare work?
If it is about making it easier for Americans to work, then it is
high time we start to turn the tide. It is time we look at what is
going on and that we say to ourselves, If it worked before, why can't
it work again? Why can't we go back to 40 hours? Why
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can't we make it easier for American families to get through the hard
times that they are going through right now?
Mr. McDERMOTT. Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Ms. JENKINS. Mr. Speaker, I would like to yield 2 minutes to the
gentlelady from South Dakota (Mrs. Noem).
Mrs. NOEM. I thank the gentlelady for yielding.
Mr. Speaker, I rise today in support of this bill to change the
definition of ``full time'' in the IRS code to 40 hours per week on
average.
The 30-hour workweek instituted in ObamaCare is limiting economic
opportunity across the country. It is especially harmful for women when
63 percent of those who are most at risk are women. South Dakota has
one of the highest rates in the country of working women, and I have
had them come up to me time and time again, talking about how this
regulation has impacted them. They no longer are getting the hours that
they need to pay their bills as their hours have been cut. Where they
are working, they may be forced to take on another part-time job. If
you want to talk about putting challenges in their way when they are
trying to fulfill all the requirements of work, of paying their bills,
of being with their children, of having successful family lives, this
regulation is one of the worst.
ObamaCare pressures employers to restrict their full-time ranks in
order to avoid the employer mandate, putting millions of workers at
risk of having their hours cut. Now we have two definitions--the
Department of Labor definition and then the new IRS definition defined
by ObamaCare. Only here in Washington, D.C., do things like that
happen. There are two different and exclusive definitions for the very
same thing. Thus, many workers have had their workweeks cut down to a
maximum of 29 hours. In many instances, the possibility of their being
promoted to full time no longer rests on their dedication or on their
achievements but now on their bosses' abilities to weed through the
regulatory environment here in Washington, D.C.
Mr. Speaker, I used to run a small family business, so let me close
by saying that women-owned businesses have surged over the past 20
years. We should not be putting obstacles in their way, making it more
difficult for them to own those businesses, to undermine their growth
and their ability to create jobs. I urge my colleagues to support this
bill. Let's take a step towards restoring economic freedom in this
country.
Mr. McDERMOTT. Mr. Speaker, I now yield 3 minutes to the gentlewoman
from Chicago, Illinois (Ms. Schakowsky).
Ms. SCHAKOWSKY. Mr. Speaker, there has actually been a debate on this
floor by all of my colleagues, women, coming down from the Republican
side, talking about how wonderful this bill is for women and how bad
ObamaCare is for women.
I want to make this point, which is that, before the Affordable Care
Act was passed, there was gender discrimination against women. The
standard body was clearly the male body because women were paying about
48 percent more for health care before this law went into effect, a law
that said there would be no more gender discrimination, that women
could not be charged more because things like pregnancy might take
place. Women became among the biggest winners under the new Affordable
Care Act.
In talking about protecting women, it is interesting to me that the
Republicans, including my women colleagues, oppose the raising of the
minimum wage. Two-thirds of minimum wage workers are women. They oppose
the Paycheck Fairness Act. Isn't it time in 2014 that women get paid
equal pay for equal work? They oppose the funding of preschool. They
support a budget that would cut Pell Grants for colleges. They oppose
making sure that the Affordable Care Act will provide contraceptives as
a preventative service to women.
I am also hearing about the economics of freedom. Under the
Affordable Care Act, now you don't have to be locked into a job because
you need the health insurance. That is what I call freedom. Suddenly,
entrepreneurialism is unleashed because women, and men are able to say,
I am going to take a risk, but I am going to still be able to find
health insurance.
The other thing I hear is that it is a job killer. Actually, H.R.
2575 would force 1 million people to lose their employer-provided
coverage, and it would increase the number of uninsured up to 500,000.
This is not a number that has come out of some Democratic think tank.
This is a number that comes from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget
Office.
Ask the workers themselves, and this is what they will tell you. The
National Education Association says, We oppose this bill because we
believe it would create a disincentive for employers to provide health
coverage.
They act like we are changing what full-time employment is, from 30
to 40 hours.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The time of the gentlewoman has expired.
Mr. McDERMOTT. I yield the gentlelady an additional 1 minute.
Ms. SCHAKOWSKY. Here is what we are changing. We are saying, if you
work 30 hours, your employer should provide you with health insurance.
What this bill says is, now, if you work 39 hours, your employer can
deny you health care coverage. So it actually raises the bar and says
that workers can no longer get coverage between the 30 and 39 hours
that they work. This is not a good thing.
The American Federation of Labor represents millions of workers. This
bill not only fails to address the problem it was intended to solve,
but it makes the problem worse. Raising the threshold of how many hours
will only move the cliff and will actually increase employers'
incentives to reduce workers' hours. The Communications Workers of
America say the threshold from 30 to 40 hours per week doesn't help. It
would actually encourage employers to lower the number of hours.
There has been some implication, I think, that the Teamsters Union is
supporting this bill. That is not true. The Teamsters are not
supporting this legislation. I would urge my colleagues to oppose it as
well, and I encourage my women colleagues to stand up for women.
Ms. JENKINS. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that the gentleman
from Pennsylvania (Mr. Kelly), my colleague on the Committee of Ways
and Means, control the remainder of the time.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the
gentlewoman from Kansas?
There was no objection.
Mr. KELLY of Pennsylvania. Mr. Speaker, at this time, I yield 2
minutes to the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Roskam), my friend and
colleague.
Mr. ROSKAM. I thank the gentleman for yielding.
Mr. Speaker, the Obama administration has done a clever thing over
these past years, and that is to redefine things.
They redefined the word ``balance,'' not to mean the traditional
understanding of ``balance,'' but they said, No, no, no. That really
means long-term fiscal sustainability. That is the new definition of
``balance.''
They did the same thing on tax reform. The common understanding of
``tax reform'' is that you lower rates; you use loopholes to bring
rates down; and you simplify the Code. Instead, they said, No. ``Tax
reform,'' for us, means, yes, let's close loopholes, but let's use
those closures to fuel more spending.
The richest one I have heard so far is to hear a White House
spokesman make the claim, basically, that a job is now a burden and
that now, with ObamaCare, there are going to be over 2 million
Americans who are shed from that burden, Mr. Speaker, and that they
don't have to worry about working anymore because they have got this
new health care plan.
It is now finding itself coming true in this bill as well, and what
the Obama administration has said is, We are just going to create a new
definition of ``full-time work.'' Full-time work has meant 9 to 5.
Full-time work has meant 40 hours a week. Not with ObamaCare. ObamaCare
has now redefined it. It is a long pattern of redefinitions, and these
redefinitions have led to failure.
So here is the thing. We have got an opportunity to remedy this. We
have got an opportunity to make it right. We have got an opportunity to
recalibrate full-time work to what it has historically meant, and here
is what the
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bottom line is: if we recalibrate it, we will get more work to the very
people whom our opponents on the other side claim to speak for, and the
irony is that their remedies mean less work for the very groups that
they speak to advocate for.
Mr. Speaker, we have got a chance today, and that is to support this
bill, to do it quickly and to get us back to the normal definition of
``full-time work,'' which is 40 hours a week.
Mr. McDERMOTT. Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. KELLY of Pennsylvania. Mr. Speaker, at this time, I would like to
yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Louisiana (Mr. Scalise), another
colleague and good friend of mine.
Mr. SCALISE. I want to thank my friend from Pennsylvania for
yielding.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong support of this legislation.
Of course, President Obama's own health care law has now resulted in
the direct loss of work for millions of people across this country. One
of the perverse incentives in ObamaCare actually forces employers
through incentives in the law to drop the number of hours that their
employees work. This isn't something employees want, and it is not
something employers want; yet it is directly there in the law where you
get penalized--you actually get fined by the IRS--if you are not doing
this. When you talk about these impacts of the law, it is having
devastating impacts on families across this country. The President was
talking about the minimum wage. The President has literally forced a 25
percent pay cut for millions of Americans through his incentive in the
law that is encouraging employers to drop their workforce hours below
40 hours a week to 30 hours and 28 hours a week.
I represent parts of the city of New Orleans. Some of the best
restaurants in the world are in the city of New Orleans. We love going
to those restaurants, and so many people from all over the world love
going to those restaurants, but many of those restaurant owners tell me
that they love their workforces, that they love the employees who work
for them. They are like family businesses. Yet they are being forced
because of this law to drop the hours of those workers below 30 hours.
There is no reason for this, Mr. Speaker. This bill fixes this
problem.
President Obama and the White House said, Hey, look. This is a burden
for poor workers. This is freeing them up to do things that they really
want to do--as if people don't want to be working. One of the things
they said is that you could go sit in a park and write poetry. These
people don't want to be sitting in a park, writing poetry, at 2 o'clock
on a Thursday afternoon. They want to be at their jobs, working, and
the law doesn't let them do that.
Let's fix this. We can get this economy moving again. These are crazy
policies, like this component of ObamaCare that literally forces people
to be dropped below 30 hours to address some new definition of ``part-
time worker'' and ``full-time worker.''
These are the kinds of policies that are devastating American
families. This is what we are here to fix. We need to pass this bill,
fix this problem and get people back to work so they don't have to sit
on a park bench on a Thursday afternoon, and they can actually be at
their jobs, working.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Pennsylvania has 11
minutes remaining, and the gentleman from Washington has 8 minutes
remaining.
Mr. McDERMOTT. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may
consume.
My colleagues out here today have really had a good time telling
personal stories, so I have got a few of them for them.
Last week, the distinguished Senator from Texas, Senator Cruz, put a
poll up on his Facebook, asking if people are better off under the law.
The responses were not what he expected. The overwhelming number of
responses--he got nearly 56,000 responses--were in support of the ACA.
If you look at it online, of the most recent 100 comments, there are
just two that appear more negative than positive, so that is 2 percent
that are against it.
One of them said:
Not only am I better off now, but I have friends who are
better off, too.
The second one said:
Yes. I have MS, and I lost my job, and I wasn't able to get
any other insurance because of my preexisting condition.
Thank you, President Obama.
Another one said:
This Nation is better off for helping people avoid the
devastation that poor health can bring. Thank you, ACA.
I reserve the balance of my time.
Senator Ted Cruz
Quick poll: Obamacare was signed into law four years ago
yesterday. Are you better off now than you were then?
Comment with YES or NO!
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Carol Rietz Gates: Not only am I better off, but I have
friends that are better off. Furthermore, this nation is
better off for helping folks avoid the devastation that poor
health can bring. Thank you, ACA!
1,359--March 25 at 6:46pm
13 Replies--1 hr
Kris Williams: I and a few million other people are a lot
better off. I hope you are enjoying your Cadillac plan given
to you by your wife's employer, Goldman Sachs. Stop trying to
deny the rest of us the peace of mind that quality,
affordable health insurance provides us.
1,342--March 24 at 10:13pm
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Benjamin Corey Feinblum: Yes. Costs stopped climbing. I'm a
small business guy and I don't have to worry because
insurance companies can't drop us anymore.
2,901--March 24 at 3:14pm
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Lili Ann Fuller: YES, best law ever! And way overdue! I
spent all my retirement savings on overpriced insurance in
order to save my life when I got cancer in 2005. I had no
income and now have no savings. If it had been in place back
then, I wouldn't be looking at a poor retirement, but at
least I am not worried about having care anymore.
2,300--March 24 at 2:04pm--Edited
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Lashawn Bell: Yes I have MS and I lost my job I wouldn't be
able to get any other insurance because of my pre existing
condition thank you President Obama. If people get sick they
will realize how this is good.
1,288--March 24 at 2:00pm
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Anne Wittig Pryor: I don't have Obamacare, but someone I
know who had bad mouthed it for the past for years, recently
had to get coverage after her husband recently passed away.
The first words out of her mouth, ``Thank God for
Obamacare.'' She is a staunch Republican and believes
everything she hears on Fox News. And those who are saying
they won't comply are cutting off their noses to spite their
faces. Wake up!
2,798--March 24 at 1:49pm
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Paige Brennan: Impeach Ted Cruz! He caused the shutdown
that hurt this country badly!
3,188--March 24 at 1:18pm
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Joe Caparco: Isn't it funny that the govemment ``makes''
you buy car insurance and home owners insurance and no one
says a word. For those of you who say you can't afford health
insurance what will you do when you need your health
insurance. No need to answer I alre . . . see more
1,984--March 24 at 1:11pm
68 Replies
Larry E White: Absolutely better off, now lets push for
universal healthcare for everyone.
2,705--March 24 at 1:08pm
26 Replies--1 hr
Sherry Scott Stewart: Absolutely Yes! I have pre-existing
condition that I was born with but didn't appear until later
in life and could not get health insurance at all. I finally
have decent affordable insurance.
What a huge relief!
1,134--March 24 at 1:05pm
4 Replies
Dave Ninehouser: Yes, my wife's little niece who is very
sick would have hit her lifetime limit by now if not for the
ACA. The nation is better off.
1,684--March 24 at 11:44am
10 Replies
Kris Williams: What is really sad is how the American
people have been kept in the dark as to what the ACA really
is. The whole purpose and driving force behind the ACA was to
Improve care and lower costs. The majority of the law deals
with Medicare. The medical cost . . . See More
1,047--March 25 at 1:08am--Edited
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Robin Conrad: Yes, my son has Healthcare for the first time
and I know many friends it is helping. The ACA is awesome.
1,101--March 24 at 7:16pm
18 Replies
Shelley Laysi Peterson: hummm something tells me this isn't
quite the response Mr Cruz was hoping for ROFLMAO
1,828--March 24 at 5:58pm
36 Replies--4 hrs
Shelley Laysi Peterson: YES, YES & YES!! Hands Off My
Obamacare!!
1,076--March 24 at 5:52pm
16 Replies--14 mins
Felicia Willems: Yes! Everyone in my family has a pre-
existing condition that range from minor to serious. We were
uninsurable on the individual market Now we've got
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great coverage through healthcare.gov. We did NOT get a
subsidy but it still fits our budget!
2,711--March 24 at 3:19pm
69 Replies
Meredith Stark: Oh Senator Cruz, four years ago we didn't
have health insurance, and now we do. It's helping my husband
and I.
914--March 24 at 2:26pm
11 Replies--1 hr
Laura Eakes: Only in America would people be cursing other
people for finally being able to get health insurance, and
calling them mooches and socialists. I'd rather be a
socialist than a selfish psychopath like many right wingers
on here
1,081--March 24 at 2:09pm
27 Replies--9 hrs
Jeffrey Albuna: Well Mr. Cruz, firstly I want to say, I
think your actions putting our country hostage for your 21
hour publicity stunt were awful and despicable. You stood up
there for 21 hours railing against Obamacare, to show the Tea
Party you ``care'' about their v . . . See More
1,444--March 24 at 1:53pm
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Brenda Myrick Yasulevicz: For those of you who think that
anyone who answered yes ``is a part of the problem'', I have
worked hard my entire life and done fairly well. I always had
jobs with insurance. Then I became self employed and found
out I couldn't get insured because of pre-existing
conditions. (None are serious or life threatening, or even
require much care) I am very grateful for this insurance!
997--March 24 at 1:26pm
16 Replies--2 hrs
David C. Brown: Yes Ted. In spite of your empty pandering
rhetoric I am better off now that I was four years ago. I now
have an insurance plan, purchased from a private company,
that must insure me rather than suck profit from me. Before,
I was dumped from insurance f . . . See More
2,071--March 24 at 11:47am
47 Replies--2 hrs
Art Zimmerman: Damn straight I am . . . we all are after
the Bush/Cheney near destruction of our country and the
bullshit trickle-down Republican garbage!!
576--March 24 at 6:34pm--Edited
Joy Williams: Of course we are better off. We will now have
consistent care without it destroying our finances.
491--March 24 at 4:32pm
2 Replies
Chuck Provonchee: Yes, Cruz, you pitiful waste of space, we
are all much better off under the ACA. The only ones who
would not agree with that are the mindless people who blindly
follow the GOP and vote against their own best interests. You
should enjoy your time as senator because I don't think you
will ever win another election.
548--March 24 at 2:45pm
11 Replies--2 hrs
Russ Campbell: Thank God for Obama Care. I now have health
care and they discovered I have cancer. I'm going to have
surgery in one week and I might live. Without Obamacare I
would just die.
576--March 24 at 1:10pm
34 Replies--2 hrs
Terry Kelley-King: YES . . . I have insurance and am very
happy to have it . . . of course it could be better by making
it single payer . . . but this is a republican health plan so
it can't be perfect
1,699--March 24 at 1:05pm--Edited
47 Replies
Dave Posmontier: Definitely YES!. We now have drug coverage
and do pay a little bit more in co-pays but get this--My wife
and I are saving $550 a month in premiums. Thanks you
President Obama . . .
609--March 24 at 1:04pm
4 Replies
Kevin Lawton: Much better off. We'd be even better off if
people like you weren't in the US Senate.
1,736--March 24 at 12:15pm
32 Replies
Barbara J Cobuzzi: Yes, much better off.
1,042--March 24 at 12:06pm
11 Replies--1 hr
LN Winchester: YES, It's great! Not only for myself and my
kids, but for the other five million people who can now get
the medical care they need! I'm actually paying a bit more,
but I don't mind because so many families are getting the
medical services they need, in some cases desperately. That
makes it all worthwhile.
1,169--March 24 at 11:56am
28 Replies
Amanda Rosales: YES . . . I was denied heath insurance
because of having MS as a pre-existing condition and would
soon be going medically bankrupt or stop getting treatment. I
now have excellent coverage and have a brighter future!
1,205--March 24 at 11:52am
33 Replies--6 hrs
Bruce Lindner: I just left my insurance agent's office. He
walked me through my options with the ACA, and to put it
mildly, I'm one happy customer! As a self-employed cancer
survivor and a heart attack survivor--factoring in the
outrageous prices they've been gougin . . . See More
397--March 28 at 3:56pm
11 Replies
Alisha Clark: Obamacare does not regulate health care, it
regulates health insurance companies. Who in their right mind
wouldn't want health insurance companies to be regulated?
472--March 26 at 12:26pm
15 Replies--1 hr
Alisha Clark: This morning I received a private message
from one of my many fb friends This person would like me to
share her story. I can only imagine what this person is going
through and I want her to know that we are now in this fight
together.
Hi Alisha: I am n . . . See More
434--March 26 at 5:48am
23 Replies--4 hrs
Cathy Paganelli Kaelin: YES! Saving $350 per month,
preventative care plus dental & vision. And now my 2 adult
children have health insurance which they went without for 2
years. Yes, this family is grateful for the ACA. Thank you,
President Obama, for taking this country into the direction
of health care for all!
434--March 25 at 5:17am
13 Replies
Bonnie Flournoy: Yes. Previously, I had your plan whereby
the ER was my primary physician. Having a strategy alone to
seek medical help has lifted a burden. The burden was making
me just as sick as my condition. In fact, I think the stress
caused the illness.
874--March 24 at 2:08pm
15 Replies
Kathe Mendelsohn-White: YES! Without the ACA, my 21 year
old autistic son would not have any insurance. Thank you
President Obama.
1,778--March 24 at 1:12pm
66 Replies
Paulina Trefault: At the same time, costs are coming down.
The Congressional Budget Office found the health care law is
making significant contributions to fiscal responsibility.
The CBO's most recent estimates show that repealing the law
would actually increase deficit . . . See More
435--March 24 at 12:15pm
8 Replies
Tricia Barsamian-Wise: Yes . . . I no longer work 2 jobs
and have the security of not being denied, my insurance going
up or being canceled. I clearly understand Ted Cruz's POV on
this, his financial backers only hired him to do their dirty
work. But what I find so hard to comprehend is average
Americans being so cruel and hateful.
950--March 24 at 11:52am
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Vik Verma: Yes
404--March 24 at 11:34am
Charles Reff: Yes, it allowed me to get better insurance
then my job was offering and for less.
1,368--March 24 at 6:38am
28 Replies
Chuck Myers: What I'd REALLY like to know, Senator Cruz, is
are you a big enough man to READ the tens of thousands of
comments below and admit that just MAYBE, you were WRONG!!!!!
If you were truly a representative OF THE PEOPLE you would
instantly see how desperat . . . See More
351--March 29 at 10:51pm
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Ilene Leftwing: Yes, but would be even better off if my
Republican Governor, Nathan Deal, saw fit to help the
citizens of Georgia by implementing the medicaid expansion.
Anyone who stands against the ACA does not get MY vote.
316--March 25 at 9:26am
11 Replies--33 miss
Sandie Cohen: Please do not take away our health coverage.
357--March 24 at 3:43pm
11 Replies--32 mins
Scotty-Miguel Sandoe: YES! Access to Obamacare saves me
money, and as former cancer patient, it means I can no longer
be denied health insurance because of a pre-existing
condition. This is the best government program since
Medicare--thank heavens we have a President who cares about
American citizens for a change!
1,404--March 24 at 11:38am
54 Replies
Jeanne Carver: Yes I am. I had a junky plan, which paid
nothing until after 7500 per year. I now have affordable
healthcare, which costs much less.
780--March 24 at 1:12pm
14 Replies
David Davis: No. I couldn't afford healthcare before and I
still can't and now will also have to pay a fine. Wish I
could fine the government for making my life hell everyday.
1,458--March 24 at 5:47am
322 Replies--4 hrs
Rick LaCrosse: The politicians that rule should live by
their rules & laws!!!
253--March 24 at 5:52am
13 Replies--1 hr
Elizabeth Dubrulle: What an incredibly stupid and badly
written question! Were you actually trying to start a
discussion about healthcare, in which case your question
should have been: is your health care better today than it
was four years ago? (my answer would have been . . . See More
406--March 24 at 8:05am
23 Replies--2 hrs
Chris Marko: As a concerned Canadian, I apologize for both
Ted Cruz and Justin Beiber, that being said, you can keep
both of them, we have a no return policy for defective
merchandise.
135--March 29 at 8:28pm
Breana Corea: LMAO!!! Nice!
14--March 29 at 9:40pm
Something Liberal: please take them back . . . you can
imprison them or torture them . . . we don't care.
15--March 29 at 10:22pm
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Lamar Birdsey: In 1995 I had my first heart attack. At that
point I was insured. However, my coverage was immediately
terminated by my insurance company. Six months
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later I had my second heart attack and had no insurance.
Subsequently I have had two more attacks and was not covered.
I have spent my life savings attempting to stay alive. In
2014, I purchased a wonderful Florida Blue policy. My premium
is $88.73 per month. My deductible is $600.00 annually and
any co-payments are extremely low. EVERYTHING IS COVERED! The
most out of pocket expense I will have to pay in a given year
is $2250.00. I am much better off now that the ACA has become
law. Senator Cruz, I suggest you pack your bags and go back
to where you came from, Canada. You are a scourge on this
great nation. We do not need or want your ilk here. If you
want to screw up a health care program, by all means return
to Canada and mess with that one. DO NOT TREAD ON MY
OBAMACARE!
129--March 24 at 8:26pm
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Smooth Stone: No I'm not better off--only because my Koch
bought governor nikki haley refused to expand medicaid in my
state. Otherwise I would have subsidies to help me live a
longer, better life. As a woman who was able to work
wonderful jobs with health insurance for 36 years until I had
my son. Then I relied on my husband's job to supply me with
benefits as I raised our child and only worked `part time' as
a school teacher substitute. But what happens when that
husband is mutilated by a stoned driver and can no longer
work. Goes on social security and medicaid and his family is
left to flounder because the now 58 year old mother can no
longer get a decent job, no matter her experience but the age
matters. So go F**K YOURSELF Ted Cruz.
128--March 24 at 2:17pm
Deb Larsen: I am so sorry to hear about your situation.
11--March 30 at 3:42pm
Elizabeth Fisher Jeffery Wood: Red states that have chosen
not to expand medicaid are not really better off, but that is
not the fault of the ACA. (btw, I live in one of those states
. . .) What we need to do is grassroots it here until all of
the red states accept all of what the ACA has to offer.
24--March 30 at 6:57pm
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George Rivas: The ACA would've been better with a public
option. It's a shame the GOP didn't try to make it more
effective instead of grandstanding and wasting everyone's
time and money on futile efforts to stop it.
123--March 24 at 1:30pm
Ambrosia Rose: Like the half billion dollars Obama spent on
a website . . . that money could have gone for actual health
care.
2--March 30 at 3:05am
Teresa Gottier: Yeah because nobody uses a website today
except Obama . . . .
16--March 30 at 12:47pm
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Terri K Mattingly Puryear: YES, ABSOLUTELY!!! although I am
really ashamed of being on your website.
122--March 24 at 3:18pm
Mary Duff Henry: It's for a good cause.
32--March 30 at 8:54am
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Bobby Joe Lyle: Yes! I have been unable to have health
insurance for 2 decades because of a preexisting condition.
Last week I was finally able to have a colonoscopy thanks to
the Affordable Care Act. Today I was informed by the
gastroenterologist that the polyps he removed were cancerous.
The Affordable Care Act may well have saved me from dying of
colon cancer.
118--March 24 at 1:10pm--Edited
Sarah A. McCloud:
11--March 26 at 10:39am
Lisa Brayer:
13--March 27 at 2:22am
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Malina Lobel-karimi: Yes, yes and HELL Yes. I had been
without insurance for years when we were systematically
rejected by ALL carriers due to . . . PREEXISTING CONDITIONS.
My son had to have his gallbladder removed WITHOUT insurance.
It cost us $80,000.00 Can you imagine eighty thousand dollars
for a gallbladder and a weeks stay in a hospital? That's
inhuman!
109--March 26 at 8:33pm
Wrenn Simms: I can. I was lucky. After i was laid off in
09, I ended up in the hospital with emergency gall bladder
surgery that turned into an emergency on the operating table.
They kept me a week, with two other procedures needing to be
done.. I was lucky, that I was still covered by my former
employers insurance (it was within the 60 day separation
window). The bill was $101,000. I paid less than $200.
9--March 31 at 5:36pm
Laura Woller Bishin: Holy crap! 80k?!?
3--Yesterday at 12:59am
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Julie Pippert: YES! My pregnancy caused me to be excluded
from health care--the VERY worst time!--because Texas allowed
that. Then I caught an infection in the hospital that left me
with a ``preexisting condition'' because I had no insurance
at the time. I am SO GLAD I have protection now! THANK
GOODNESS! Thanks for the ACA.
114--March 25 at 5:45am
Dani Golightly: Holy crap, that's HORRIBLE!!!!
6--March 30 at 8:51am
Laura Harper: Women in Texas are an endangered species if
Mr. Cruz and his merry band of misogynists have their way.
45--March 30 at 10:00am
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Caleb Caraway: My healthcare is better, but I live in Texas
so lots of other things suck. If we could get Ted Cruz out of
office it would be a whole lot better.
114--March 24 at 2:45pm
Cody Edge: THIS! But we have to all work to get people like
him out of office! Lets get Wendy Davis INTO office too!
6--6 hrs
Samantha Scott: I'm an American expat living in Canada. We
pay a monthly premium and all the basics are covered; no
charge for low income folks. Drawbacks? Sometimes I wait over
an hour to see a doctor during walk-in clinic peak hours.
*waves tiny maple leaf flag*
*feels bad for anyone who thinks Obamacare is a step
backward*
109--March 24 at 2:06pm
Candace Marley: I think waiting and waiting at any doctor
even in the US is becoming the norm.
15--March 25 at 12:42pm
Brilliant Chicky: My daughter waited 4 hours in a us er and
was told at that point could be 4 more. She left untreated.
9--March 29 at 8:46pm
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Jeff Sanderson: YES! ``Obamacare'' saved my grandson's
life. He was born with multiple birth defects, and their
insurance specifically stated that a birth defect was
considered a pre-existing condition. Obamacare eliminated
pre-existing conditions, so the family insurance covered the
multiple surgeries he needed to stay alive. Today he is a
happy, bright little boy. In addition, when his mom had to
quit work to take care of him, Obamacare made sure that they
would still be insured. Thank you President Obama.
114--March 24 at 1:29pm
Jane Foster: Your story touched my heart Jeff. So happy
your grandson got the care he needs.
19--March 29 at 11:37pm
Kevin Young: And all this happened in 6 months. Sounds like
BS]
March 30 at 8:44am
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Chris Stout: Yes. Being self-employed with a pre-existing
condition, the premiums always ended up being extremely high
and wouldn't cover what I needed the most.
I now have a Gold plan with a premium I can afford and all
my conditions are covered, so yes, yes, YES!
107--March 24 at 12:26pm
Alvin Bates: Yes. Business owner from Oklahoma!
108--March 24 at 10:03am
Brandy Mohar:
2--March 31 at 10:20am
Rhonda Savage: Oh yes! Saved me 4k out of my pocket in
Premiums. AND, I have a better plan. And, I do not qualify
for tax credits and am still saving!! Thank you Dems and Mr.
President! Your willingness to assure our right to pursue
happiness has been much appreciated by millions! As for you
Mr. Cruz--I remain very, very ashamed that I used to belong
to your party!
106--March 24 at 8:12pm
Drew Denega: You lie.
March 25 at 12:11am
Lisa Brayer: She doesn't lie. Same for me!
41--March 27 at 2:33am
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Pearson Klein: YES! I'm better off because those who
previously couldn't get it now can. HOW YOU CAN SLEEP AT
NIGHT WANTING TO SCREW OVER THE LESS FORTUNATE IS BEYOND ME.
106--March 24 at 4:13pm
Greg Zagel: I'm MUCH better-off with Obamacare. This is a
fact! The U.S. Senate was better-off without Ted Cruz.
105--March 24 at 1:24pm
Barbara Dobriansky: The ACA is a LAW that requires you you
to obtain insurance--it is not insurance itself. So all of
you saying your doctor won't take Obamacare are inaccurate in
that perception. You DO know the mandate is a conservative
idea? To make EVERYONE pay into the system so that no one is
subsidizing anyone else? The level of ignorance is striking.
This isn't a real poll, it's a Facebook comment screed to
get us all to fight one another and look stupid to the
world--most of which has universal health care. By a
Communist-raised, now Fascistic, religious fanatic
naturalized citizen who wants us to change our Constitution
so he can run for president. You can't make this stuff up.
105--March 24 at 11:56am
Michael Jennings: The fact that this is a Republican (Newt
Gingrich, Heritage Foundation) idea that is now being called
Socialism just blows my mind! These people will believe
anything that they are told.
56--March 29 at 8:06pm
Bobbie Scott: Thank you! Someone has some sense!
16--March 29 at 9:02pm
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Christina Zadorozny: Seeing you deleted my other comment,
LET ME REPEAT, MR CRUZ! The ONLY people who would say NO
would be your top 1% friends who because of the ridiculous
tax cuts they got, can afford to buy any sort of medical care
they want, and it's us in the LOWER AND MIDDLE CLASSES who
are giving welfare for the RICH because they are UNAMERICAN,
and who refuse to pay their fair share in taxes! Shame on you
all, if Eisenhower was here, he would be taxing the rich at
91% like he did in the 50s, because after WWII, there was a
huge deficit, and he knew he couldn't have a deficit like
that hanging over America, so he did what he thought was
RIGHT (A NOVEL IDEA, DOING WHAT'S RIGHT, AND NOT
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JUST WHAT IS GOOD FOR YOUR BASE), and taxed the rich heavily,
which guaranteed that there was enough money flowing
throughout the economy, so average people were able to create
jobs, and they then hired people; everyone had a job if they
wanted one, and the 50s women were able to stay home and take
care of the kids, and the men were the ones who went to work,
and with only one salary, a whole family was supported,
houses were bought, cars were bought, the economy boomed! I
have NEVER heard anyone complain about the 50s, everyone
remembers it as a wonderful time, it's the first time a
middle class was invented! We sure do know NOW trickle down
doesn't work, look at all the rich with the lowest taxes
ever, what jobs were created by them? NONE! It's been proven
that the people who create jobs are small business owners!
NOT the rich, and NOT the big established companies! I wish
Eisenhower could come back and tell you republicans off! I'm
sure he would have a few choice words for you and your rich
friends! Mr Cruz, you and your rich friends disgust me, and
go ahead, delete my statement, since you hate the truth so
much!
100--March 29 at 8:03pm
Lisa Carpenter: There are plenty of us who say NO, that are
not in the 1%. But then it looks like this post was hijacked
by obama ops.
4--March 31 at 4:23pm
Christina Zadorozny: Why no? I want to know why you would
deprive people who need insurance this very necessary law! If
you don't need it, great for you! How about the millions who
now have it, and for the first time in years are getting the
diagnosis and treatments they needed? I can give you plenty
of stories of people i know personally who couldn't get
insurance any other way, like specifically my brother, who
was born with a congenital heart condition that didn't show
up til he was an adult; the first attack almost killed him,
the 2nd attack, recently, (a couple decades after the first)
he just got the ACA, had the attack, they did what needed to
be done, which was to laser the part in the heart that was
causing the problem, and now he'll have a normal life span
without having to worry about possibly dying from that
condition! After his first attack, his insurance dropped him
immediately, and no other insurance would cover him; about
time Americans now have a way of getting treated and being
able to work and contribute to society!
20--March 31 at 4:30pm
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Forrest Erickson: My company has 6 part time employees.
Prior to Obama care and when we were 5 employees, the cost
for health insurance for us as part time meant that two of us
had to remain on our spouses coverage and one went uninsured
as the cost was nearly twice what it would be if we were full
time. My employees would have been working for insurance and
had no take home pay at that rate. Now that employee has
coverage on the individual market and so we are all covered
one way or another. I will be watching for 2015 to see if it
makes sense for us to do the coverage through the exchange
with a cafeteria plan so that everyone can get a plan optimum
for them. Yeaaa Obamacare! Yes I and my small company are
better off.
100--March 28 at 6:03pm--Edited
Michael Jennings: Wonder why Fox has not reported your
story?
25--March 29 at 8:13pm
Forrest Erickson: I have gotten some letters to the editor
published locally prior to this year. Thanks for reading and
caring enough to leave the comment.
24--March 29 at 9:52pm
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Alisha Clark: When you spend all your time telling me what
you are against, rather than what your are FOR, that tells me
more about you than your ideology.
100--March 26 at 5:45am
Jodell Bumatay: But what does it tell us about Ted Cruz
when he spent all of time one a Congressional mike reading
Doctor Seus? LOL
1--12 hours ago
Samuel Shropshire: Yes. My wonderful daughter who is
disabled can now come back to America because her ``pre-
existing'' condition is now covered!
95--March 24 at 9:23pm
Liz Huls: Beautiful!!
5--March 31 at 6:40pm
Jeffrey Albuna: Doesn't it make you shake your head at just
how much of a heartless person these R can be?
6--Yesterday at 12:00am
Carl Birk: I suffer from Hemmochrormotosis, diabetes and
two minor strokes. I could never get insurance due to pre
conditions. This year my insurance coverage increased while
my insurance cost was lower by 20%. Stop trying to fight this
law. It is in the best interest of the American people. Set
aside your beliefs and hatred for the commander in chief and
help people better their lives.
95--March 24 at 8:20pm
Erma Couey: my daughter has diabetes and was not able to
get insurance until the ACA now she payes 500.00 a month with
real good insurance that is for husband and herself
40--March 25 at 4:48am
Candace Marley: the hatred will stay in the way for most of
the pubs. most of them won't even take the time to apply for
coverage with the ACA to see what they would get through it.
18--March 25 at 12:47pm
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Christopher Hausen: I am part of a self-insured group, by
virtue of my membership in a Building Trades Union. As of
this moment, my hourly contribution hasn't changed, my
monthly premium cost hasn't changed, my co-pay, & deductible
amounts haven't changed, my ``choice'' of in-network
providers hasn't changed, and my coverage has improved. I
would have to answer the Senator with a resounding ``Yes!''.
More importantly, by any metric, more American citizens have
access to health care than prior to 2008. Not only has the
PPACA Improved my health care service, it has Improved health
care accessibility for the Country, as well.
100--March 24 at 2:33pm
James Rowland: Same here. We are looking at a possible
small increase next year but our contributions haven't gone
up since 2011 and even that was only a small increase.
1--3 hrs
Patty Kennedy: Most definitely YES! America is the only
Western Industrialized country without nationalized
healthcare for all. America is the only industrialized
country that allows corporations to earn a profit on the
suffering and dying of it's people. Which is why until the
ACA passed we were paying DOUBLE what Canadians pay for their
better rated Healthcare system that covers everyone. Our
``for profit'' healthcare system was chewing up an incredible
17.6% of our entire GDP when Obama took office.
It is not ``free enterprise'' when a group of corporations
set an artificially high price for something everyone needs,
it is an Oligopoly; something Adam Smith warned against in
``The Wealth of Nations'' as always being bad for the
consumer.
The insurance exchanges of the ACA mark the first time in
American history the Health Insurance Oligopoly has ever
competed one with another for business in a genuine Free
Market.
99--March 24 at 12:00pm
Ellen Hunt: I'd like to add that we didn't try to force our
jackedup system on the countries we invaded--even Iraqis have
nationalized health care. Nobody's stupid enough to try to
adopt our atrociously horrible health care insurance system.
32--March 30 at 6:28am
Deb Lindstrom: Good point. We support Israel by sending
them the equivalent of about $8.5 Million Dollars per DAY.
They have nationalized health care for all citizens, and just
this past February created a new law (the most liberal on the
planet) that allows their female citizens to get on demand
abortions, fully paid for by the Israeli government So now,
Republicans, how do you like knowing that your tax dollars
are going to subsidize both health care coverage and free
abortions in the nation of Israel?
36--March 30 at 2:03pm
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Eric Koenig: Yes: my Blue Cross/Blue Shield insurance
lapsed in the Fall of 1985 because I was late in paying a
quarterly premium and, as I have epilepsy, they were all too
happy to cite ``pre-existing conditions'' as grounds for
refusing to re-enroll me. The Affordable Care Act enabled me,
in early 2010, to once again acquire Blue Cross/Blue Shield
insurance and it has been of great benefit to me. Without the
Affordable Care Act, I'd still be subsisting on County health
care, meaning at taxpayer expense. Which do you think sounds
better?
91--March 25 at 9:36pm
Sandie Cohen: Yes . . . much better off. Go ACA. Now we
have coverage. !!
93--March 24 at 3:42pm
Pamela John: FANTASTIC!
29--March 24 at 4:51pm
Elvira Ramirez: Obamacare is working and yes we are better
off today than then!
94--March 24 at 3:02pm
Deb Lindstrom: Economies in most all red states suck. Take
it from me. I grew up and lived for three decades in a blue
state where the quality of life was excellent. Then my post-
graduate career took me first to one red state, then to two
more. In all cases, the quality of life stunk, the wages for
almost all people were much lower, the public schools systems
far more inferior, everybody hated unions but didn't know why
(unions help the common citizen enjoy the fruits of
capitalism--which means the ability to acquire more capital
just like corporations do), and to top it off . . . I had
never heard of state sales taxes on food and clothing. Worse
still, it is fact that the blue states give some of their
state income tax revenue to the federal government who
redistributes it to the red states to help prop them up. So
there you have it. It is not the Democrats who are the
welfare freeloaders . . .
45--March 30 at 1:57pm
Lorie DeBehnke: Yes I am better off. I was injured by a
drunk driver while crossing the street. That injury gave me a
pre existing condition.After I was laid off of my last
corporate job I lost any coverage I had. Because of that pre
existing condition I was quoted between 1000-1500 a month for
coverage just for myself. More than my rent and utilities.
Thanks to Obamacare I now have insurance for the first time
in 7 years . . .
Thanks obamacare.
21--March 31 at 10:09am--Edited
Dorothy Sasscer: I'm not impacted by this but so many of my
friends are AND IT'S BEEN A MIRACLE FOR THEM! They have
healthcare now--affordable healthcare--with better coverage.
And they don't have to worry about GETTING healthcare because
of a pre-existing condition!
ACA IS WORKING FOR WORKING AMERICANS!
92--March 24 at 1:56pm
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Boutwell: YES! We were going t lose our insurance because
my late spouse had MS, thanks to Obamacare they could not
drop us, made his last months better knowing we couldkeep our
home and not be totally broken by medical bills. Thank God
every day for Obamcare. It made me a democrat
93--March 24 at 11:33am
LN Winchester: PETITION TO REPUBLICANS TO ALLOW MEDICAID
EXPANSIONS! CLICK ON LINK: https://www.facebook.com/dailykos?
v=app_335652843138116 . . .
22--March 30 at 7:20pm--Edited
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Kent Hill: . . . Yes, and with the obstructive anti-
American stances of most republicans in congress, I will find
it hard to vote with anyone with an (R) behind their name.
85--March 27 at 7:51pm
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Mr. KELLY of Pennsylvania. Mr. Speaker, at this time, I would like to
enter into the Record two letters--one from the Chamber of Commerce of
the United States of America, which is in strong support of H.R. 2575,
and then another letter from the National Federation of Independent
Business--and I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Washington (Mr.
Reichert), my good friend and a member of the Committee on Ways and
Means.
Chamber of Commerce of the
United States of America,
Washington, DC, April 2, 2014.
To the Members of the U.S. House of Representatives: The
U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the world's largest business
federation representing the interests of more than three
million businesses of all sizes, sectors, and regions, as
well as state and local chambers and industry associations,
and dedicated to promoting, protecting, and defending
America's free enterprise system, strongly supports H.R.
2575, the ``Save American Workers Act of 2014,'' which would
redefine a ``full-time employee'' for purposes of the
employer mandate provision in the Patient Protection and
Affordable Care Act (PPACA) to reflect the traditional 40-
hour work week constituting full-time employment. This bill
would be a critical step in helping protect employees and
employers against what would amount to a significant
redefinition of workforce status.
Under the employer mandate provision of the PPACA,
businesses with 50 or more full-time equivalent employees
(FTEs) are required to provide affordable, minimum value,
health care coverage to all full-time employees as well as
coverage to their dependents, or potentially pay significant
penalties. For the first time in history, the PPACA defines a
full-time employee as an individual working 30 hours per week
or more averaged over the course of a month. In an attempt to
mitigate the anticipated high costs of providing coverage to
all employees now considered full time, businesses are
restructuring their workforces. Despite the one-year delay of
the employer mandate, a recent report by the Chamber and the
International Franchise Association confirmed that businesses
are already experiencing increased costs causing them to
reduce employee hours, limit full-time jobs, and drop health
coverage. While the Chamber welcomes and appreciates the
administration's ``transition relief' announced in February,
it fails to adequately mitigate the harmful impacts of the
PPACA's 30 hour workweek definition.
Returning to the widely-accepted 40-hour definition of a
full-time employee would allow businesses to focus on
generating jobs, rather than making them choose between
reducing growth and unfortunate personnel changes or going
bankrupt from employer mandate penalties. By reverting back
to the traditional definition, employees and employers would
both be protected. Particularly during this time when our
economic recovery remains fragile, it is crucial we provide
an atmosphere where employers can focus on strengthening
their businesses, employing workers in traditional full-time
positions, and revitalizing the economy.
The Chamber continues to champion health care reform that
builds on and reinforces the employer-sponsored system while
improving access to affordable, quality coverage. The Chamber
urges you and your colleagues to support H.R. 2575, and may
consider including votes on, or in relation to, this bill in
our annual How They Voted scorecard.
Sincerely,
R. Bruce Josten,
Executive Vice President,
Government Affairs.
____
National Federation of
Independent Business,
Washington, DC, April 3, 2014.
Dear Representative: On behalf of the National Federation
of Independent Business (NFIB), the nation's leading small
business advocacy organization, I am writing in support of
H.R. 2575, the Save American Workers Act of 2013. H.R. 2575
will be considered an NFIB Key Vote for the 113th Congress.
This legislation would replace the new 30-hour per week
full-time or full-time equivalent (FTE) employee definition
in the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA)
with a 40-hour per week definition. PPACA defines full-time
employee for the purpose of the employer mandate as an
employee who works an average of 30-hours per week (130-hours
per month). The employer mandate is a requirement that
businesses with 100 or more full-time or FTE employees offer
qualified, ``affordable'' health insurance to 70 percent of
full-time employees or pay costly penalties beginning in
2015. In 2016, businesses with 50 or more full-time or FTE
employees must offer qualified, ``affordable'' health
insurance to full-time employees and their dependents or pay
costly penalties.
Last year, NFIB testified before the House Committee on
Small Business that the new definition is ``one of the most
dangerous parts in the law.'' PPACA marks the first time that
``full-time'' is expressly defined in law. Prior to PPACA's
enactment, the determination was left up to the employer.
Similarly, the Fair Labor Standards Act has long dictated
that overtime pay starts after 40-hours per week. Thus,
employers and employees have long understood ``full-time'' to
be equivalent to 40-hours per week.
The 30-hour full-time definition is already resulting in
less opportunities, fewer hours and lower incomes for
employees. Small businesses are already being forced to
shrink their workforce below and restricting workforce growth
above the 50 employee threshold in preparation for the costly
mandate.
H.R. 2575 would provide some immediate relief for small-
business owners and employees. According to the Congressional
Budget Office (CBO), H.R. 2575 would reduce taxes on
employers by $63.4 billion over the next ten years. For
employees, the bill would prevent decreases in take home pay.
NFIB supports H.R. 2575 and will consider it an NFIB Key
Vote for the 113th Congress. We look forward to working with
you to protect small business as the 113th Congress moves
forward.
Sincerely,
Dan Danner,
President and CEO, NFIB.
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Mr. REICHERT. I thank the gentleman for yielding.
Mr. Speaker, there are a few things going on here.
One, you have American families working hard every day to juggle
their lives to provide for their children and their families. They are
trying to make ends meet and put food on the table and clothes on their
backs. What happens is this ObamaCare 30-hour rule could seriously
jeopardize all of those efforts, 30 hours instead of 40 hours.
Secondly, under ObamaCare, employers are already cutting workers'
hours just to avoid the employer mandate, so there is another burden
that is placed on our employees and our employers.
Third, the law is changing the standard definition of a full-time
employee to someone who works 30 or more hours rather than 40 or more
hours. Workers are taking home less pay each month as a result of that.
Instead of having 38 hours of pay, they might have only 15 or 28 hours
of pay, or maybe they just lose their jobs, Mr. Speaker.
Much of that impacted workforce would be restaurants, retailers, and
hospitality businesses. Eighty-nine percent of those who would be
impacted do not have college degrees. Talk about helping those that
need help. ObamaCare's reduction from 40 hours to 30 hours doesn't help
those people.
People that don't have college degrees are going to be hurt the
worst. Over 50 percent do not even have high school diplomas. If they
lose their job, there may not be somewhere else for them to turn.
The Save American Workers Act would prevent this from happening. It
would save jobs, and it would provide relief for everyday Americans
from the enormous tax burden of ObamaCare, repealing $63.4 billion of
tax increases.
I know this is right for my constituents in Washington State, and I
urge my colleagues to support this legislation today.
Mr. McDERMOTT. Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. KELLY of Pennsylvania. Mr. Speaker, I will include letters from
the Employers for Flexibility in Health Care Coalition and the NRF. We
have a lot of these letters. I think I will read more of them as we go
on.
I am fascinated by the results of Senator Cruz's request online to
hear from people. We will see if we can get some other accurate
numbers.
At this time, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from New York (Mr.
Reed), my good friend and another member of the Ways and Means
Committee.
Employers for Flexibility
in Health Care Coalition,
February 4, 2014.
Hon. Dave Camp,
Chairman, Committee on Ways and Means, House of
Representatives, Washington, DC.
Hon. Sander Levin,
Ranking Member, Committee on Ways and Means, House of
Representatives, Washington, DC.
Dear Chairman Camp and Ranking Member Levin, The Employers
for Flexibility in Health Care (E-FLEX) is a coalition of
leading trade associations and businesses in the retail,
restaurant, hospitality, supermarket, construction, temporary
staffing, agriculture, and other service-related industries,
as well as employer-sponsored health plans insuring millions
of American workers. The E-FLEX Coalition represents
employers who create millions of jobs each year, employ a
significant workforce in the U.S., offer flexible working
environments for employees, and are a leading contributor to
the nation's economic job recovery.
The common thread among Coalition members is that our
workforces are of a variable nature, and not traditional 9-5
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workforces. Maintaining the ability to offer affordable
coverage options to our unique workforces under the new
requirements of the law is of special concern to us. The
Affordable Care Act's (ACA) definition of full-time employee
is of particular importance to the E-FLEX Coalition because
of our industries' unique reliance on large numbers of part-
time, temporary, and seasonal workers with fluctuating and
unpredictable work hours, as well as unpredictable lengths of
service.
While transition relief for 2014 and flexibility in the
proposed rules are greatly appreciated, the E-FLEX Coalition
and many in the employer community remain concerned that the
ACA employer requirements are fundamentally unworkable and
require legislative changes, especially the 30 hours per week
definition of full-time employee status. It is critically
important to change the law's definition of full-time as 30
hours of service to a definition more in line with employment
practices. The law's definition of full-time as 30 hours of
service per week does not reflect employers' workforce needs
or employees' desire for flexible hours. A change is needed
to avoid disruptions in the workforce and maintain flexible
work options for employees.
Better aligning the ACA's definition of full-time employee
status with current employment practices would help avoid
unnecessary disruptions to employees' wages and hours, and
would provide critical relief to employers. Increasing the
ACA's rigid 30-hour per week definition for full-time status
would:
Make it easier for employers to provide more hours to all
employees, thereby increasing their take-home pay;
Help employers offer more generous health coverage to full-
time employees without making employers' share of premiums
cost prohibitive;
Help ensure that lower-income employees have access to more
affordable coverage options.
Using a definition of full-time that better reflects
current employment practices would not cause employees to
lose coverage. In fact, setting the definition of full-time
employee status at a higher level would help eliminate a
coverage gap for lower income employees in some states and
make it easier for employees to increase their income by
requesting work schedules according to their particular
needs.
Although sharp differences in opinion about the ACA remain,
well-intentioned people on both sides of the debate can agree
that using a higher threshold for defining full-time would be
better for American workers and businesses than the ACA's
lower full-time definition. Committee consideration of H.R.
2575--Save American Workers Act of 2013--is a first step in
the process of realigning this threshold.
The E-FLEX Coalition looks forward to continuing to work
with the Committee and your colleagues in Congress on a
bipartisan basis to strengthen and preserve employer-
sponsored coverage.
Sincerely,
Employers for Flexibility in Health Care (E-FLEX) Coalition.
____
National Retail Federation,
Washington, DC, April 2, 2014.
Hon. John Boehner,
Speaker, House of Representatives, Washington, DC.
Hon. Nancy Pelosi,
Democratic Leader, House of Representatives, Washington, DC.
Dear Speaker Boehner and Democratic Leader Pelosi: I write
to share the strong support of the National Retail Federation
(NRF) for H.R. 2575, the Save American Workers Act. Please
note that NRF will consider votes on H.R. 2575 and related
procedural motions as Key Retail Votes for our annual voting
scorecard.
NRF is the world's largest retail trade association,
representing discount and department stores, home goods and
specialty stores, Main Street merchants, grocers,
wholesalers, chain restaurants and Internet retailers from
the United States and more than 45 countries. Retail is the
nation's largest private sector employer, supporting one in
four U.S. jobs--42 million working Americans. Contributing
$2.5 trillion to annual GDP, retail is a daily barometer for
the nation's economy. NRF's This is Retail campaign
highlights the industry's opportunities for life-long
careers, how retailers strengthen communities, and the
critical role that retail plays in driving innovation.
www.nrf.com
NRF greatly appreciates the bipartisan support for changes
to the Affordable Care Act's definition of full-time work for
benefit eligibility. It is, after all, a common sense
approach: if asked, most Americans would identify full-time
work to be 40 hours per week. Most employers have also long
assumed the full-time mark to be 40 hours, consistent with
federal overtime rules. In an effort to attract desired
employees, many employers have set eligibility for benefits
at lower points, but still higher than the ACA's arbitrary
30-hour definition.
The 30-hour definition will force retailers to manage to a
new standard: whether or not an employee is above or below
the 30-hour level on average. For part-time employees--who
will now likely work 30 or fewer hours per week--it will mean
lost income. The 40-hour full-time definition proposed in
H.R. 2575 will return flexibility to employers to set benefit
eligibility at lower levels. We strongly support this
necessary and common sense change.
By any measure, the ACA is bringing profound changes to the
labor market--both positive and negative. We hope to continue
to work with you to help mitigate the negative effects on the
retail industry and retail employees. NRF strongly urges you
to vote in favor of H.R. 2575.
Sincerely,
David French,
Senior Vice President,
Government Relations.
Mr. REED. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to urge support for the bill, the
Save American Workers Act, introduced by my good friend, Mr. Young of
Indiana.
Mr. Speaker, this is a fundamental question about what is fair, what
is fair for the American worker.
We have had a long history in America of protecting the 40-hour
workweek. This mandate--this requirement under the Affordable Care Act
to go to 30 hours as the definition of full-time work is going to hurt.
It is not fair to the American worker.
I would just offer comments that I just received from a constituent
in the 23rd Congressional District, which I have the honor to
represent.
Carol Tyler, the owner of Hager's Flowers and Gifts in Gowanda, New
York, writes:
As a business owner, I encourage you to vote in favor of
legislation that better reflects my business' workforce needs
while maintaining wages and flexible health benefits options
for my employees.
The ACA's definition of full-time employee status must
align with a standard that better reflects current employment
practices within our industry. Increasing the ACA's 30-hour
per week definition would make it easier for employers to
provide additional hours to all employees.
That means more money in hardworking taxpayers' pockets across
America.
I urge my colleagues to join with Ms. Tyler's plea to support this
legislation, to stand with the American worker, and protect the 40-hour
workweek, which means more money in American workers' pockets as they
go forward.
I have to say, Mr. Speaker, there is a contrast between our side and
the other side. When I hear the other side argue that what this will
allow people to do is to not have to work, what I hear is they are not
championing the concept of work.
I believe in the American work ethic, Mr. Speaker. I believe in the
strong work ethic that allows people to work a 40-hour workweek has
made this Nation strong for generations.
I ask my colleagues on the other side of the aisle to please stand
with us to protect that which has made America great, and this is the
40-hour workweek in the American workplace and environment.
Mr. McDERMOTT. Mr. Speaker, I continue to reserve the balance of my
time.
Mr. KELLY of Pennsylvania. Mr. Speaker, I also have a letter from the
Small Business Coalition for Affordable Healthcare. There are 43
members signed onto this one.
I reserve the balance of my time.
Small Business Coalition for
Affordable Healthcare,
April 2, 2014.
Hon. John Boehner,
Speaker, House of Representatives,
Washington, DC.
Hon. Nancy Pelosi,
Minority Leader, House of Representatives,
Washington, DC.
Dear Speaker Boehner and Minority Leader Pelosi,
Representing the country's largest, oldest and most respected
small business associations, which have spent more than a
decade working to improve access to and affordability of
private health insurance, the Small Business Coalition for
Affordable Healthcare (the Coalition) is writing in support
of H.R. 2575, Save American Workers Act of 2013. This
legislation would repeal the Patient Protection and
Affordable Care Act's (PPACA) 30-hour per week full-time
employee definition and replace it with a 40-hour per week
full-time employee definition.
Beginning in 2015, PPACA requires businesses with 100 or
more full-time equivalent (FTE) employees to offer affordable
health insurance to full-time employees or potentially pay
significant penalties. Businesses with 50 or more FTEs must
offer affordable health insurance to full-time employees and
their dependents or potentially pay penalties beginning in
2016. PPACA defines a full-time employee as an employee who
averages 30-hours of service per week, or 130-hours of
service per month. PPACA's definition of full-time is counter
to the traditional 40-hours of service threshold that most
American businesses use to define full-time for benefits and
other purposes. Implementing this new definition will require
most businesses to change both their policies and their
practices.
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Despite the one year delay of the employer mandate
requirement for 2014 and more recent transition relief for
midsize businesses in 2015, employers have been preparing to
closely track employee hours and make these complicated
administrative calculations this year, as business size
calculations are based on an employer's workforce during the
preceding calendar year. Without H.R. 2575, employers will
face higher employer mandate penalty taxes, and employees
will see reduced hours and take home pay.
The Coalition urges all Members of the U.S. House of
Representatives to support H.R. 2575.
Sincerely,
Aeronautical Repair Station Association; American Apparel &
Footwear Association; American Bakers Association; American
Farm Bureau Federation; American Foundry Society; American
Hotel & Lodging Association; American Staffing Association;
American Supply Association; Asian American Hotel Owners
Association; Associated Builders and Contractors, Inc.;
Associated Equipment Distributors; Associated General
Contractors; Association for Manufacturing Technology;
Automotive Aftermarket Industry Association; International
Housewares Association; Metals Service Center Institute;
National Association of Convenience Stores; National
Association of Home Builders; National Association of RV
Parks and Campgrounds; National Association of Theatre
Owners; National Association of Wholesaler-Distributors;
National Club Association.
National Federation of Independent Business; National
Restaurant Association; National Retail Federation; National
Roofing Contractors Association; National Small Business
Association; National Systems Contractors Association;
National Tooling and Machining Association; North American
Die Casting Association; North American Equipment Dealers
Association; Precision Machined Products Association;
Precision Metalforming Association; Professional Golfers
Association of America; Service Station Dealers of America
and Allied Trades; Small Business and Entrepreneurship
Council; Small Business Council of America; Society of
American Florists; Specialty Equipment Market Association;
Textile Rental Services Association; Tire Industry
Association; U.S. Chamber of Commerce; WMDA Service Station
and Automotive Repair Association.
Mr. McDERMOTT. Mr. Speaker, can you tell us how much time remains?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Washington has 7 minutes
remaining, and the gentleman from Pennsylvania has 7 minutes remaining.
Mr. McDERMOTT. Is the gentleman ready to close?
Mr. KELLY of Pennsylvania. We are prepared to close.
Mr. McDERMOTT. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Massachusetts (Mr. Capuano).
Mr. CAPUANO. I thank the gentleman for yielding.
Mr. Speaker, I was sitting back in my office trying to get some desk
work done and watching this debate. I had no intention of speaking, but
I have just heard these arguments so many times, and they are tiring,
to be perfectly honest.
So I did a little bit of work and came up with a couple of quotes I
wanted to read.
This is relating to the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938, which I
have heard referenced on the other side, that talked about a 44-hour
workweek and minimum wage at the time.
Here are a couple of quotes.
The act will destroy small industry . . . these ideas are
the product of those whose thinking is rooted in an alien
philosophy and who are bent upon the destruction of our whole
constitutional system and the setting up of a red-labor
communist despotism upon the ruins of our Christian
civilization.
That is a quote from Representative Cox of Georgia.
The Fair Labor Standards Acts constitutes a step in the
direction of communism, bolshevism, fascism, and nazism.
That is a quote from the National Association of Manufacturers.
The Fair Labor Standards Act would create chaos in business
never yet known to us . . . no decent American citizen can
take exception to this attitude. What I do take exception to
is any approach to a solution of this problem which is
utterly impractical and in operation would be much more
destructive than constructive to the very purposes which it
is designed to serve.
That was from Representative Lamneck of Ohio.
These arguments are not new. When are you going to get tired of being
behind history? When are you going to get tired of holding the American
people back?
Please find an opportunity at any case--health care, housing,
education, minimum wage, anything--to move us forward. We have 80
years-plus of the same arguments against the typical legislation that
simply tries to move America forward and take care of our people.
It is the same old argument, the same old rhetoric. It was wrong
then, and it is wrong now.
Mr. KELLY of Pennsylvania. Mr. Speaker, I continue to reserve the
balance of my time.
Mr. McDERMOTT. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may
consume.
It is an old political tactic to use confusion. We have watched for
almost 4 years the Republican Party try to confuse the American people
about the Affordable Care Act. It was the worst thing that was ever
going to happen on the face of the Earth. We would have storms,
hurricanes, unemployment, wars, and famines, all because of the
Affordable Care Act.
Well, we are up here today with yet another attempt to confuse people
about the 40-hour workweek and whether or not we are going to cause
people to lose their jobs.
On page 125 of the CBO report on the budget outlook for 2004 to 2024,
it says:
In CBO's judgment, there is no compelling evidence that
part-time employment has increased as a result of the ACA.
Everything you have learned out here about losing jobs is not true.
There is nothing in the law that says people have to shorten the
workweek.
I don't know if anybody on the other side understands the free
enterprise system. Businesses are run by entrepreneurs who decide what
kind of product they are going to produce. They hire people to do that.
They decide the hours. They decide the pay. They decide everything.
You keep saying that ObamaCare came in and it is forcing these
entrepreneurs in America to cut their employees' wages and hours. There
is no such thing in the law. That is not true.
In fact, my colleague from Washington State (Mr. Reichert) just said,
Mr. Speaker, that people's hours were already being cut before
ObamaCare.
It is not ObamaCare that decides how much somebody works. It is the
person who runs the company. If he doesn't care about his employees and
doesn't want to give them health care, that is one thing. There are
people like that, but there are a lot of people who would like to give
health insurance to their people, and we are trying to help them do
that with the subsidies in this bill.
Let me come to one other issue, and that is this whole question of
women.
I have flown back and forth across the country every week, 35 flights
a year, for 25 years, and I know most of the flight attendants on
United Airlines between Seattle and Washington, D.C.
I can't tell you how many of those women are working because they get
health care benefits. Their husband has a job, but has no benefits, and
if they don't have their job, they simply won't have health care in
their family.
United Airlines has been through two bankruptcies. They have lost pay
increases. They have lost their pension rights. The only thing they
have left is that health care benefit, and that is what is holding the
family together.
I am sort of interested to watch what happens to the older flight
attendants I know, to see whether they leave flying, because they would
like to. Their husband has a job, but before, he couldn't get health
insurance, and now, he can under the Affordable Care Act, and they can
quit working.
When the CBO talks about people working less, it is because the job
lock is gone. People are not locked into their jobs because of the fact
that they can't get health insurance anyplace else. It makes it
available for any American.
The fact is that the cuts you are seeing--if you see employers that
are going to take people down from 40 hours a week to 39 so that they
can avoid giving benefits, take a look at the morals. I wonder if that
person goes to church and talks about how they take care of the poor
and the weak and the sick and all the rest.
No, no. You can't have it both ways. You cannot cut your people down
1 hour just to get out of giving them benefits, and that is what you
are suggesting is going to go on in this country.
{time} 1430
I don't think that badly of owners of businesses myself. Now, there
may be some people out there looking for a
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way to get around the law, but this law doesn't make anybody do
anything, and this law is going to create more problems.
You hear 1 million people are going to lose their health care
benefits, and that is not good. This whole idea of continuing to
undermine this law by confusing the American people, and making them
think it bad isn't working. 1.7 million joined.
Labor Market Effects of the Affordable Care Act: Updated Estimates
Overview
The baseline economic projections developed by the
Congressional Budget Office (CBO) incorporate the agency's
estimates of the future effects of federal policies under
current law. The agency updates those projections regularly
to account for new information and analysis regarding federal
fiscal policies and many other influences on the economy. In
preparing economic projections for the February 2014
baseline, CBO has updated its estimates of the effects of the
Affordable Care Act (ACA) on labor markets.
The ACA includes a range of provisions that will take full
effect over the next several years and that will influence
the supply of and demand for labor through various channels.
For example, some provisions will raise effective tax rates
on earnings from labor and thus will reduce the amount of
labor that some workers choose to supply. In particular, the
health insurance subsidies that the act provides to some
people will be phased out as their income rises--creating an
implicit tax on additional earnings--whereas for other
people, the act imposes higher taxes on labor income
directly. The ACA also will exert conflicting pressures on
the quantity of labor that employers demand, primarily during
the next few years.
How Much Will the ACA Reduce Employment in the Longer Term?
The ACA's largest impact on labor markets will probably
occur after 2016, once its major provisions have taken full
effect and overall economic output nears its maximum
sustainable level. CBO estimates that the ACA will reduce the
total number of hours worked, on net, by about 1.5 percent to
2.0 percent during the period from 2017 to 2024, almost
entirely because workers will choose to supply less labor--
given the new taxes and other incentives they will face and
the financial benefits some will receive. Because the largest
declines in labor supply will probably occur among lower-wage
workers, the reduction in aggregate compensation (wages,
salaries, and fringe benefits) and the impact on the overall
economy will be proportionally smaller than the reduction in
hours worked. Specifically, CBO estimates that the ACA will
cause a reduction of roughly 1 percent in aggregate labor
compensation over the 2017--2024 period, compared with what
it would have been otherwise. Although such effects are
likely to continue after 2024 (the end of the current 10-year
budget window), CBO has not estimated their magnitude or
duration over a longer period.
The reduction in CBO's projections of hours worked
represents a decline in the number of full-time-equivalent
workers of about 2.0 million in 2017, rising to about 2.5
million in 2024. Although CBO projects that total employment
(and compensation) will increase over the coming decade, that
increase will be smaller than it would have been in the
absence of the ACA. The decline in full-time-equivalent
employment stemming from the ACA will consist of some people
not being employed at all and other people working fewer
hours; however, CBO has not tried to quantify those two
components of the overall effect. The estimated reduction
stems almost entirely from a net decline in the amount of
labor that workers choose to supply, rather than from a net
drop in businesses' demand for labor, so it will appear
almost entirely as a reduction in labor force participation
and in hours worked relative to what would have occurred
otherwise rather than as an increase in unemployment (that
is, more workers seeking but not finding jobs) or
underemployment (such as part-time workers who would
prefer to work more hours per week).
CBO's estimate that the ACA will reduce employment reflects
some of the inherent trade-offs involved in designing such
legislation. Subsidies that help lower-income people purchase
an expensive product like health insurance must be relatively
large to encourage a significant proportion of eligible
people to enroll. If those subsidies are phased out with
rising income in order to limit their total costs, the
phaseout effectively raises people's marginal tax rates (the
tax rates applying to their last dollar of income), thus
discouraging work. In addition, if the subsidies are financed
at least in part by higher taxes, those taxes will further
discourage work or create other economic distortions,
depending on how the taxes are designed. Alternatively, if
subsidies are not phased out or eliminated with rising
income, then the increase in taxes required to finance the
subsidies would be much larger.
CBO's estimate of the ACA's impact on labor markets is
subject to substantial uncertainty, which arises in part
because many of the ACA's provisions have never been
implemented on such a broad scale and in part because
available estimates of many key responses vary considerably.
CBO seeks to provide estimates that lie in the middle of the
distribution of potential outcomes, but the actual effects
could differ notably from those estimates. For example, if
fewer people obtain subsidized insurance coverage through
exchanges than CBO expects, then the effects of the ACA on
employment would be smaller than CBO estimates in this
report. Alternatively, if more people obtain subsidized
coverage through exchanges, then the impact on the labor
market would be larger.
Why Will Those Reductions Be Smaller in the Short Term?
CBO estimates that the ACA will cause smaller declines in
employment over the 2014--2016 period than in later years,
for three reasons. First, fewer people will receive subsidies
through health insurance exchanges in that period, so fewer
people will face the implicit tax that results when higher
earnings reduce those subsidies. Second, CBO expects the
unemployment rate to remain higher than normal over the next
few years, so more people will be applying for each available
job--meaning that if some people seek to work less, other
applicants will be readily available to fill those positions
and the overall effect on employment will be muted. Third,
the ACA's subsidies for health insurance will both stimulate
demand for health care services and allow low-income
households to redirect some of the funds that they would have
spent on that care toward the purchase of other goods and
services--thereby increasing overall demand. That increase in
overall demand while the economy remains somewhat weak will
induce some employers to hire more workers or to increase the
hours of current employees during that period.
Why Does CBO Estimate Larger Reductions Than It Did in 2010?
In 2010, CBO estimated that the ACA, on net, would reduce
the amount of labor used in the economy by roughly half a
percent--primarily by reducing the amount of labor that
workers choose to supply. That measure of labor use was
calculated in dollar terms, representing the approximate
change in aggregate labor compensation that would result.
Hence, that estimate can be compared with the roughly 1
percent reduction in aggregate compensation that CBO now
estimates to result from the act. There are several reasons
for that difference: CBO has now incorporated into its
analysis additional channels through which the ACA will
affect labor supply, reviewed new research about those
effects, and revised upward its estimates of the
responsiveness of labor supply to changes in tax rates.
Effects on Retirement Decisions and Disabled Workers
Changes to the health insurance market under the ACA,
including provisions that prohibit insurers from denying
coverage to people with preexisting conditions and those that
restrict variability in premiums on the basis of age or
health status, will lower the cost of health insurance plans
offered to older workers outside the workplace. As a result,
some will choose to retire earlier than they otherwise
would--another channel through which the ACA will reduce the
supply of labor.
The new insurance rules and wider availability of subsidies
also could affect the employment decisions of people with
disabilities, but the net impact on their labor supply is not
clear. In the absence of the ACA, some workers with
disabilities would leave the workforce to enroll in such
programs as Disability Insurance (DI) or Supplemental
Security Income (SSI) and receive subsidized health
insurance. (SSI enrollees also receive Medicaid; DI enrollees
become eligible for Medicare after a two-year waiting
period.) Under the ACA, however, they could be eligible for
subsidized health insurance offered through the exchanges,
and they cannot be denied coverage or charged higher premiums
because of health problems. As a result, some disabled
workers who would otherwise have been out of the workforce
might stay employed or seek employment. At the same time,
those subsidies and new insurance rules might lead other
disabled workers to leave the workforce earlier than they
otherwise would. Unlike DI applicants who are ineligible for
SSI, they would not have to wait two years before they
received the ACA's Medicaid benefits or exchange subsidies--
making it more attractive to leave the labor force and apply
for DI.
Possible Effects on Labor Supply Through Productivity
In addition to the effects discussed above, the ACA could
shape the labor market or the operations of the health sector
in ways that affect labor productivity. For example, to the
extent that increases in insurance coverage lead to improved
health among workers, labor productivity could be enhanced.
In addition, the ACA could influence labor productivity
indirectly by making it easier for some employees to obtain
health insurance outside the workplace and thereby prompting
those workers to take jobs that better match their skills,
regardless of whether those jobs offered employment-based
insurance.
Some employers, however, might invest less in their
workers--by reducing training, for example--if the turnover
of employees increased because their health insurance was no
longer tied so closely to their jobs. Furthermore,
productivity could be reduced if
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businesses shifted toward hiring more part-time employees to
avoid paying the employer penalty and if part-time workers
operated less efficiently than full-time workers did. (If the
dollar loss in productivity exceeded the cost of the employer
penalty, however, businesses might not shift toward hiring
more part-time employees.)
Whether any of those changes would have a noticeable
influence on overall economic productivity, however, is not
clear. Moreover, those changes are difficult to quantify and
they influence labor productivity in opposing directions. As
a result, their effects are not incorporated into CBO's
estimates of the effects of the ACA on the labor market.
Some recent analyses also have suggested that the ACA will
lead to higher productivity in the health care sector--in
particular, by avoiding costs for low-value health care
services--and thus to slower growth in health care costs
under employment-based health plans. Slower growth in those
costs would effectively increase workers' compensation,
making work more attractive. Those effects could increase the
supply of labor (and could increase the demand for labor in
the near term, if some of the savings were not immediately
passed on to workers).
Whether the ACA already has or will reduce health care
costs in the private sector, however, is hard to determine.
The ACA's reductions in payment rates to hospitals and other
providers have slowed the growth of Medicare spending
(compared with projections under prior law) and thus
contributed to the slow rate of overall cost growth in health
care since the law's enactment. Private health care costs (as
well as national health expenditures) have grown more slowly
in recent years as well, but analysts differ about the shares
of that slowdown that can be attributed to the deep recession
and weak recovery, to provisions of the ACA, and to other
changes within the health sector. Moreover, the overall
influence of the ACA on the cost of employment-based coverage
is difficult to predict--in part because some provisions
could either increase or decrease private-sector spending on
health care and in part because many provisions have not yet
been fully implemented or evaluated. Consequently, CBO has
not attributed to the ACA any employment effects stemming
from slower growth of premiums in the private sector.
Effects of the ACA on the Demand for Labor
The ACA also will affect employers' demand for workers,
mostly over the next few years, both by increasing labor
costs through the employer penalty (which will reduce labor
demand) and by boosting overall demand for goods and services
(which will increase labor demand).
Effects of the Employer Penalty on the Demand for Labor
Beginning in 2015, employers of 50 or more full-time
equivalent workers that do not offer health insurance (or
that offer health insurance that does not meet certain
criteria) will generally pay a penalty. That penalty will
initially reduce employers' demand for labor and thereby tend
to lower employment. Over time, CBO expects, the penalty will
be borne primarily by workers in the form of reduced wages or
other compensation, at which point the penalty will have
little effect on labor demand but will reduce labor supply
and will lower employment slightly through that channel.
Businesses face two constraints, however, in seeking to
shift the costs of the penalty to workers. First, there is
considerable evidence that employers refrain from cutting
their employees' wages, even when unemployment is high (a
phenomenon sometimes referred to as sticky wages). For that
reason, some employers might leave wages unchanged and
instead employ a smaller workforce. That effect will probably
dissipate entirely over several years for most workers
because companies that face the penalty can restrain wage
growth until workers have absorbed the cost of the penalty--
thus gradually eliminating the negative effect on labor
demand that comes from sticky wages.
A second and more durable constraint is that businesses
generally cannot reduce workers' wages below the statutory
minimum wage. As a result, some employers will respond to the
penalty by hiring fewer people at or just above the minimum
wage--an effect that would be similar to the impact of
raising the minimum wage for those companies' employees. Over
time, as worker productivity rises and inflation erodes the
value of the minimum wage, that effect is projected to
decline because wages for fewer jobs will be constrained by
the minimum wage. The effect will not disappear completely
over the next 10 years, however, because some wages are still
projected to be constrained (that is, wages for some jobs
will be at or just above the minimum wage).
Businesses also may respond to the employer penalty by
seeking to reduce or limit their full-time staffing and to
hire more part-time employees. Those responses might occur
because the employer penalty will apply only to businesses
with 50 or more full-time-equivalent employees, and employers
will be charged only for each full-time employee (not
counting the first 30 employees). People are generally
considered full time under the ACA if they work 30 hours or
more per week, on average, so employers have an incentive,
for example, to shift from hiring a single 40-hour, full-
time employee to hiring two, 20-hour part-time employees
to avoid bearing the costs of the penalty.
Such a change might or might not, on its own, reduce the
total number of hours worked. In the example just offered,
the total amount of work is unaffected by the changes.
Moreover, adjustments of that sort can take time and be quite
costly--in particular, because of the time and costs that
arise in dismissing full-time workers (which may involve the
loss of workers with valuable job-specific skills); the time
and costs associated with hiring new part-time workers
(including the effort spent on interviewing and training);
and, perhaps most important, the time and costs of changing
work processes to accommodate a larger number of employees
working shorter and different schedules. The extent to which
people would be willing to work at more than one part-time
job instead of a single full-time job is unclear as well;
although hourly wages for full-time jobs might be lower than
those for part-time jobs (once wages adjust to the penalty),
workers also would incur additional costs associated with
holding more than one job at a time.
In CBO's judgment, there is no compelling evidence that
part-time employment has increased as a result of the ACA. On
the one hand, there have been anecdotal reports of firms
responding to the employer penalty by limiting workers'
hours, and the share of workers in part-time jobs has
declined relatively slowly since the end of the recent
recession. On the other hand, the share of workers in part-
time jobs generally declines slowly after recessions, so
whether that share would have declined more quickly during
the past few years in the absence of the ACA is difficult to
determine. In any event, because the employer penalty will
not take effect until 2015, the current lack of direct
evidence may not be very informative about the ultimate
effects of the ACA.
More generally, some employers have expressed doubts about
whether and how the provisions of the ACA will unfold.
Uncertainty in several areas--including the timing and
sequence of policy changes and implementation procedures and
their effects on health insurance premiums and workers'
demand for health insurance--probably has encouraged some
employers to delay hiring. However, those effects are
difficult to quantify separately from other developments in
the labor market, and possible effects on the demand for
labor through such channels have not been incorporated into
CBO's estimates of the ACA's impact.
Effects of Changes in the Demand for Goods and Services on the Demand
for Labor
CBO estimates that, over the next few years, the various
provisions of the ACA that affect federal revenues and
outlays will increase demand for goods and services, on net.
Most important, the expansion of Medicaid coverage and the
provision of exchange subsidies (and the resulting rise in
health insurance coverage) will not only stimulate greater
demand for health care services but also allow lower-income
households that gain subsidized coverage to increase their
spending on other goods and services--thereby raising overall
demand in the economy. A partial offset will come from the
increased taxes and reductions in Medicare's payments to
health care providers that are included in the ACA to offset
the costs of the coverage expansion.
On balance, CBO estimates that the ACA will boost overall
demand for goods and services over the next few years because
the people who will benefit from the expansion of Medicaid
and from access to the exchange subsidies are predominantly
in lower-income households and thus are likely to spend a
considerable fraction of their additional resources on goods
and services--whereas people who will pay the higher taxes
are predominantly in higher-income households and are likely
to change their spending to a lesser degree. Similarly,
reduced payments under Medicare to hospitals and other
providers will lessen their income or profits, but those
changes are likely to decrease demand by a relatively small
amount.
The net increase in demand for goods and services will in
turn boost demand for labor over the next few years, CBO
estimates. Those effects on labor demand tend to be
especially strong under conditions such as those now
prevailing in the United States, where output is so far below
its maximum sustainable level that the Federal Reserve has
kept short-term interest rates near zero for several years
and probably would not adjust those rates to offset the
effects of changes in federal spending and taxes. Over
time, however, those effects are expected to dissipate as
overall economic output moves back toward its maximum
sustainable level.
Why Short-Term Effects Will Be Smaller Than Longer-Term Effects
CBO estimates that the reduction in the use of labor that
is attributable to the ACA will be smaller between 2014 and
2016 than it will be between 2017 and 2024. That difference
is a result of three factors in particular--two that reflect
smaller negative effects on the supply of labor and one that
reflects a more positive effect on the demand for labor:
The number of people who will receive exchange subsidies--
and who thus will face an implicit tax from the phaseout of
those subsidies that discourages them from working--will be
smaller initially than it will be in later years. The number
of enrollees (workers and their dependents) purchasing their
own coverage through the exchanges is projected to rise from
about 6 million in 2014 to
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about 25 million in 2017 and later years, and most of those
enrollees will receive subsidies. Although the number of
people who will be eligible for exchange subsidies is similar
from year to year, workers who are eligible but do not enroll
may either be unaware of their eligibility or be unaffected
by it and thus are unlikely to change their supply of labor
in response to the availability of those subsidies.
CBO anticipates that the unemployment rate will remain high
for the next few years. If changes in incentives lead some
workers to reduce the amount of hours they want to work or to
leave the labor force altogether, many unemployed workers
will be available to take those jobs--so the effect on
overall employment of reductions in labor supply will be
greatly dampened.
The expanded federal subsidies for health insurance will
stimulate demand for goods and services, and that effect will
mostly occur over the next few years. That increase in demand
will induce some employers to hire more workers or to
increase their employees' hours during that period.
CBO anticipates that output will return nearly to its
maximum sustainable level in 2017 (see Chapter 2). Once that
occurs, the net decline in the amount of labor that workers
choose to supply because of the ACA will be fully reflected
in a decline in total employment and hours worked relative to
what would otherwise occur.
Differences From CBO's Previous Estimates of the ACA's Effects on Labor
Markets
CBO's estimate that the ACA will reduce aggregate labor
compensation in the economy by about 1 percent over the 2017-
2024 period--compared with what would have occurred in the
absence of the act--is substantially larger than the estimate
the agency issued in August 2010. At that time, CBO estimated
that, once it was fully implemented, the ACA would reduce the
use of labor by about one-half of a percent. That measure of
labor use was calculated in dollar terms, representing the
change in aggregate labor compensation that would result.
Thus it can be compared with the reduction in aggregate
compensation that CBO now estimates to result from the act
(rather than with the projected decline in the number of
hours worked).
The increase in that estimate primarily reflects three
factors:
The revised estimate is based on a more detailed analysis
of the ACA that incorporates additional channels through
which that law will affect labor supply. In particular, CBO's
2010 estimate did not include an effect on labor supply from
the employer penalty and the resulting reduction in wages (as
the costs of that penalty are passed on to workers), and it
did not include an effect from encouraging part-year workers
to delay returning to work in order to retain their insurance
subsidies.
CBO has analyzed the findings of several studies published
since 2010 concerning the impact of provisions of the ACA (or
similar policy initiatives) on labor markets. In particular,
studies of past expansions or contractions in Medicaid
eligibility for childless adults have pointed to a larger
effect on labor supply than CBO had estimated previously.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The time of the gentleman has expired.
Mr. KELLY of Pennsylvania. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself as much time
as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, we have had an interesting conversation today. We have
talked about the 40-hour workweek and what was established back in the
1930s under the New Deal, how it switched then under ObamaCare to a bad
deal. Thirty hours is considered now full-time employment.
Now we talk about Mr. Young's bill, H.R. 2575, that will be a good
deal for American workers; actually gives them back those 25 percent of
the hours that they were going to lose each week.
Now, we can play ring around the rosy with this and talk about who
doesn't like whom and how these terrible, terrible businessowners don't
go to church, they don't have a heart, they don't seem to worship
anywhere, but they want to make sure that they take advantage of their
very associates with whom they have a close relationship.
I can just tell you, after being in business my entire life--I am the
son of a parts picker from a General Motors warehouse, a guy who worked
his fingers to the bone to have something. I have got to tell you, it
is really important, though, sometimes to step out of this room and go
out into the marketplace and sit down with people who actually sit
across the desk from somebody and hire them. There is no greater thrill
for an employer than to be able to tell somebody: You know what? We are
going to bring you on our team. You are going to be able to work with
us. You are going to have wages that can support your family, plan for
the future, do things that you never thought you were going to do, and
you can do that because of a job.
Then, suddenly, because the numbers just weren't working for
ObamaCare--and as the President says all too often, it is just the
arithmetic--we are going to do something that makes it work for us, not
for you, but for us. We are going to make full-time employment 30
hours. We are going to take 25 percent of your workweek away from you,
and we are going to say it is 30 hours now. And now we say to these
people who have a great association and a great relationship with the
people they work with every day, because the success of the business is
also the success of the employee, we are dividing these people and
making them enemies in the marketplace. You don't need to do that.
But only in this great House and only in this great town and only in
the place that is so out of touch with everyday America can we stand up
and make these statements and think that they stick.
2.6 million people are affected by this in a very negative, negative
way. They are going to lose jobs and they are going to lose hours. It
is not the fault of the employer because he is trying to make his model
work. It is the fault of the government who works at such great
deficits that people can't even begin to understand what it is.
My little 9-year-old grandson says to me all the time when he looks
at these things: Grandpa, it just doesn't make sense. A child can get
it, but we can't get it. And in a time when we need to be more united
than ever as a country, as we make our way back through a very tough
time, we need to stand together on these things.
What I have heard since I got here is: You guys just don't like this
Affordable Care Act. Help us make it work.
So we said: Why don't we give people full-time employment, 40 hours
again?
That is not the kind of help we want. That doesn't fit our narrative.
Don't you get it?
So we stand here today and we have this debate. I told you how the
New Deal got replaced by the bad deal, and I also told you how this bad
deal is going to get replaced by a good deal by Mr. Young. H.R. 2575,
that is going to help America get back to work.
Honestly, if that is not why we are here today, if that is not what
our main purpose is, why are we here? What are we doing? Why do we
continue to spin this so much?
Hardly any American can walk straight anymore because they get spun
every day by a message from Washington. We continue to do it, and we
continue to thump our chest and say we did good, we did really good.
The lowest labor rate participation in 35 years in a country that has
been so blessed by our Creator that the rest of the world looks at us
and says: What in the world are you doing? What is holding you back?
You have every asset you could possibly want. You have great workers.
You have great energy sources.
We have sources of energy that would last for several decades,
several centuries. Great, great abundance and affordable and accessible
energy, but we hold back on it. We have assets that make sense to
everybody in the world but us. We have one-fifth of the world's
freshwater sitting right in our Great Lakes, and our production per
acre exceeds anybody's wildest dreams. We can have energy independence.
We can feed ourselves, and we have drinking water. Everybody else in
the world wants to have it.
Let me just ask the gentleman and the rest of the Congress--listen,
there are 435 of us--if it is really about getting people back to work,
let's do things that make sense. Let's not beat around the bush about
some type of an ideological debate over what we are trying to do to
each other.
Forty hours a week was always considered full-time employment. It is
just that simple. It is not hard to figure out.
I can tell you, as an employer, having to let somebody go is the
worst feeling you can ever have, and I do go to Mass every day, and I
do pray about it every night, and I do pray about the future of this
country. To suggest that anybody, any of the great employers we have
and the job creators we have around this country are all somehow
godless, heartless people who don't have feelings is absolutely absurd.
And it is what continues to make it hard to come to this House every
day and say: You know what? We are going
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to fix this for America. We are going to get America back to work. We
are going to do the right thing every day, in every way.
No, that just doesn't fly here.
Well, we could go on with this for hours, Mr. Speaker. But I would
just tell you this. Returning America to a 40-hour workweek just makes
sense. This is not a hard thing to figure out. If a 9-year-old child
can understand it, why can't the Congress of the United States? If we
are truly going to turn this economy around, if we are truly going to
get people back to work again, let's make sure that we renew that great
sense of dependency that we have on each other, not divide ourselves
between those who don't like you and those who do like you.
By the way, Senator Cruz's poll, I know that the gentleman referred
to several replies that had gone to that poll. There were 57,444 people
that actually answered that poll, so I am sure there was probably some
good stuff on there, too.
But that is not my point. My point is we have an opportunity here in
this House like no other place in the world. When something is wrong,
we can fix it.
I have heard from the time I came here the problem with a lot of
these laws that are passed are the unintended consequences. Well, let
me tell you there may be unintended consequences, but there are not
uninsured people. There are not people out there that are not feeling
the pain. There is a lot of pain out there right now. So the unintended
consequences have certainly not been unpainful.
You know the other thing? They are also not unfixable. Do you know we
can fix this today? Do you know we can fix this and send it over to the
Senate? Do you know we can make people go back to work, make their
futures look brighter? Do you know we can do that in this House of
Representatives?
So forget about whether you are wearing a blue tie or a red tie.
Forget about whether you have an R on your back or a D on your back,
and start thinking about who you really represent, because each of us
in our districts represent not just Republicans, not just Democrats,
but every single American.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to House Resolution 530, the
previous question is ordered on the bill, as amended.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the engrossment and third
reading of the bill.
The bill was ordered to be engrossed and read a third time, and was
read the third time.
Motion to Recommit
Mr. TAKANO. Mr. Speaker, I have a motion to recommit at the desk.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is the gentleman opposed to the bill?
Mr. TAKANO. I am opposed in its current form.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Clerk will report the motion to
recommit.
The Clerk read as follows:
Mr. Takano moves to recommit the bill, H.R. 2575, to the
Committee on Ways and Means with instructions to report the
same back to the House forthwith with the following
amendment:
At the end of the bill add the following:
SEC. 3. ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS.
(a) In General.--The amendments made by section 2 shall not
take effect if it results in any of the following:
(1) Prohibition on loss of work hours or wages.--A
reduction in hours worked, and subsequent loss of wages, in
order to skirt requirements to help pay for employee health
care costs.
(2) Ensuring fiscal responsibility and a lower deficit.--
Any increase in the Federal deficit.
(b) Protecting Health Insurance for Veterans and Wounded
Warriors.--The amendments made by section 2 shall not apply
to veterans or their families.
(c) Being a Woman Must Not Be a Pre-existing Condition.--
Nothing in this Act shall be construed to authorize an
employer to--
(1) eliminate, weaken, or reduce health coverage benefits
for current employees;
(2) increase premiums or out-of-pocket costs;
(3) deny coverage based on pre-existing conditions; or
(4) discriminate against women in health insurance
coverage, including by--
(A) charging women more for their health care than men;
(B) limiting coverage for pregnancy and post-natal care; or
(C) restricting coverage of preventive health services,
such as mammograms and contraception.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to the rule, the gentleman from
California is recognized for 5 minutes in support of his motion.
Mr. TAKANO. Mr. Speaker, the Republicans need to get with the
program. It is over. Their sorry attempts to dismantle the Affordable
Care Act must come to an end. My Republican colleagues have become so
desperate to repeal the Affordable Care Act that they are willing to
pass legislation that would increase the deficit by $74 billion.
I am not sure if they are aware, but this is a bill that violates
their own budget rules and what they claim to be the foundation of
their political philosophy. But it is okay. I realize they may be
caught up in their obsession to repeal the ACA. I am here to help my
friends on the other side of the aisle.
My final amendment prohibits their bill from taking effect if it
results in an increase in the deficit or if employers begin to reduce
hours or wages for workers. My final amendment would also protect
veterans from the harmful impact of this legislation, and would
prohibit employers from raising premiums or denying coverage to women.
No longer is being a woman a preexisting condition. Before the
Affordable Care Act, women paid 48 percent more for health insurance
than men. Those days are over and done with. We should not go back to
them.
Earlier this week, it was announced that more than 7 million
Americans have signed up for private health coverage. That is in
addition to the 3 million who are able to stay on their parents' plans
until they are age 26 and the millions more who are receiving Medicaid
for the first time.
But according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, the
bill before us today would cause 1 million workers to lose their
employer-sponsored health coverage. A great number of Americans finally
have access to affordable coverage. Now is not the time to take a step
back. Here is proof. A resident in my district named Karrie Brooks
wrote to me, saying:
The individual coverage that I could afford as a healthy
54-year-old woman has been $418 a month, with a $5,000
deductible. Yes, this would keep me from going under in an
emergency, but I avoided going to the doctor, mostly for the
fear that if I used the insurance my policy might be
canceled. I found myself skipping annual physicals and
mammograms, labs, et cetera, because of the $1,200 tab. I was
on a continual quest for something better and more secure.
She goes on to say:
Recently, Anthem let me know that I would have to change to
a compliant plan. The plan they suggested to me is similar to
what I had, but it will cost me $53 less a month. Yes, less.
Most important, I know I cannot be canceled.
I might mention that the annual physical exams, mammograms and other
preventative services that Ms. Brooks once avoided are now provided at
no cost to patients under all health plans.
The Affordable Care Act is a law that millions of Americans like Ms.
Brooks have embraced and benefited from. Why would anyone want to take
that away? Do we really want to go back to the days when insurance
companies had free rein to do as they pleased? Do we really want to go
back to the days when one illness or one accident could completely
bankrupt your family? Do we really want to go back to the days when
premiums skyrocketed year after year with no end in sight?
My Republican friends, this addiction to repealing the ACA is not
doing anyone any good. We need an intervention here. This is a safe
place. Stop standing on the wrong side of history. Let's move on. Let's
accept that the Affordable Care Act is the law of the land and get back
to being a productive legislative body.
I urge my colleagues to support this motion to recommit, and I yield
back the balance of my time.
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Mr. CAMP. Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to the motion.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Michigan is recognized
for 5 minutes.
Mr. CAMP. Mr. Speaker, let me just make one thing really clear. The
legislation before the House is really to address the problems of
ObamaCare, which have reduced hours and reduced wages for workers in
America.
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If you really cared about the loss of work hours, which this motion
purports to do, you vote for this bill because it is ObamaCare that is
causing workers to go from 40 to 30 hours. If you really cared about
the deficit--and we know what ObamaCare does in the long term; it
increases the deficit hugely--you would support this bill so that you
can get a job, a job that you can work 40 hours, so that you can
increase your income. And then you can pay taxes on that income, and
then our economy and our country will be better off, and the American
Dream won't be in jeopardy. Vote ``no'' on this motion to recommit.
I yield back the balance of my time.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Without objection, the previous question is
ordered on the motion to recommit.
There was no objection.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the motion to recommit.
The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that
the noes appeared to have it.
Mr. TAKANO. Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.
The yeas and nays were ordered.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to clause 9 of rule XX, the Chair
will reduce to 5 minutes the minimum time for any electronic vote on
the question of passage of the bill.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 191,
nays 232, not voting 8, as follows:
[Roll No. 155]
YEAS--191
Barber
Bass
Beatty
Becerra
Bera (CA)
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (NY)
Blumenauer
Bonamici
Brady (PA)
Braley (IA)
Brown (FL)
Brownley (CA)
Bustos
Butterfield
Capps
Capuano
Caardenas
Carney
Carson (IN)
Cartwright
Castro (TX)
Chu
Cicilline
Clark (MA)
Clarke (NY)
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Cohen
Connolly
Conyers
Cooper
Costa
Courtney
Crowley
Cuellar
Cummings
Davis (CA)
Davis, Danny
DeFazio
DeGette
Delaney
DeLauro
DelBene
Deutch
Dingell
Doggett
Doyle
Duckworth
Edwards
Ellison
Engel
Enyart
Eshoo
Esty
Farr
Fattah
Foster
Frankel (FL)
Fudge
Gabbard
Gallego
Garamendi
Garcia
Grayson
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Gutieerrez
Hahn
Hanabusa
Hastings (FL)
Heck (WA)
Higgins
Himes
Hinojosa
Holt
Honda
Horsford
Hoyer
Huffman
Israel
Jackson Lee
Jeffries
Johnson (GA)
Johnson, E. B.
Kaptur
Keating
Kelly (IL)
Kennedy
Kildee
Kilmer
Kind
Kirkpatrick
Kuster
Langevin
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Lee (CA)
Levin
Lewis
Lipinski
Loebsack
Lofgren
Lowenthal
Lowey
Lujan Grisham (NM)
Lujaan, Ben Ray (NM)
Maffei
Maloney, Carolyn
Maloney, Sean
Matsui
McCarthy (NY)
McCollum
McDermott
McGovern
McNerney
Meeks
Meng
Michaud
Miller, George
Moore
Moran
Murphy (FL)
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal
Negrete McLeod
Nolan
O'Rourke
Owens
Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor (AZ)
Pelosi
Perlmutter
Peters (CA)
Peters (MI)
Pingree (ME)
Pocan
Polis
Price (NC)
Quigley
Rahall
Rangel
Richmond
Roybal-Allard
Ruiz
Ruppersberger
Rush
Ryan (OH)
Saanchez, Linda T.
Sanchez, Loretta
Sarbanes
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schneider
Schrader
Schwartz
Scott (VA)
Scott, David
Serrano
Sewell (AL)
Shea-Porter
Sherman
Sinema
Sires
Slaughter
Smith (WA)
Speier
Swalwell (CA)
Takano
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Tierney
Titus
Tonko
Tsongas
Van Hollen
Vargas
Veasey
Vela
Velaazquez
Visclosky
Walz
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Welch
Wilson (FL)
Yarmuth
NAYS--232
Aderholt
Amash
Amodei
Bachmann
Bachus
Barletta
Barr
Barrow (GA)
Barton
Benishek
Bentivolio
Bilirakis
Bishop (UT)
Black
Blackburn
Boustany
Brady (TX)
Bridenstine
Brooks (AL)
Brooks (IN)
Broun (GA)
Buchanan
Bucshon
Burgess
Byrne
Calvert
Camp
Campbell
Cantor
Capito
Carter
Cassidy
Chabot
Chaffetz
Coble
Coffman
Cole
Collins (GA)
Collins (NY)
Conaway
Cook
Cotton
Cramer
Crawford
Crenshaw
Culberson
Daines
Davis, Rodney
Denham
Dent
DeSantis
DesJarlais
Diaz-Balart
Duffy
Duncan (SC)
Duncan (TN)
Ellmers
Farenthold
Fincher
Fitzpatrick
Fleischmann
Fleming
Flores
Forbes
Fortenberry
Foxx
Franks (AZ)
Frelinghuysen
Gardner
Garrett
Gerlach
Gibbs
Gibson
Gingrey (GA)
Gohmert
Goodlatte
Gosar
Gowdy
Granger
Graves (GA)
Graves (MO)
Griffin (AR)
Griffith (VA)
Grimm
Guthrie
Hall
Hanna
Harper
Harris
Hartzler
Hastings (WA)
Heck (NV)
Hensarling
Herrera Beutler
Holding
Hudson
Huelskamp
Huizenga (MI)
Hultgren
Hunter
Hurt
Issa
Jenkins
Johnson (OH)
Johnson, Sam
Jolly
Jones
Jordan
Joyce
Kelly (PA)
King (IA)
King (NY)
Kingston
Kinzinger (IL)
Kline
Labrador
LaMalfa
Lamborn
Lance
Latham
Latta
LoBiondo
Long
Lucas
Luetkemeyer
Lummis
Marchant
Marino
Massie
Matheson
McAllister
McCarthy (CA)
McCaul
McClintock
McHenry
McIntyre
McKeon
McKinley
McMorris Rodgers
Meadows
Meehan
Messer
Mica
Miller (FL)
Miller (MI)
Miller, Gary
Mullin
Mulvaney
Neugebauer
Noem
Nugent
Nunes
Nunnelee
Olson
Palazzo
Paulsen
Pearce
Perry
Peterson
Petri
Pittenger
Pitts
Poe (TX)
Pompeo
Posey
Price (GA)
Reed
Reichert
Renacci
Ribble
Rice (SC)
Rigell
Roby
Roe (TN)
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rogers (MI)
Rohrabacher
Rokita
Rooney
Ros-Lehtinen
Roskam
Ross
Rothfus
Royce
Runyan
Ryan (WI)
Sanford
Scalise
Schock
Schweikert
Scott, Austin
Sensenbrenner
Sessions
Shimkus
Shuster
Simpson
Smith (MO)
Smith (NE)
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Southerland
Stewart
Stivers
Stockman
Stutzman
Terry
Thompson (PA)
Thornberry
Tiberi
Tipton
Turner
Upton
Valadao
Wagner
Walberg
Walden
Walorski
Weber (TX)
Webster (FL)
Wenstrup
Westmoreland
Whitfield
Williams
Wilson (SC)
Wittman
Wolf
Womack
Woodall
Yoder
Yoho
Young (IN)
NOT VOTING--8
Castor (FL)
Lankford
Lynch
Murphy (PA)
Payne
Salmon
Waxman
Young (AK)
{time} 1510
Messrs. BROOKS of Alabama, CHABOT, GINGREY of Georgia, and Mrs.
HARTZLER changed their vote from ``yea'' to ``nay.''
Mr. DANNY K. DAVIS of Illinois, Mr. MEEKS, Mrs. BUSTOS, Mr. SMITH of
Washington, and Ms. SCHAKOWSKY changed their vote from ``nay'' to
``yea.''
So the motion to recommit was rejected.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
(By unanimous consent, Mr. Carter was allowed to speak out of order.)
Moment of Silence and Prayer for the Fort Hood Shooting Victims, Their
Families, and the Community
Mr. CARTER. Mr. Speaker, yesterday afternoon, tragedy struck the
heart of Texas at Fort Hood, which we know as ``The Great Place.'' A
gunman whose motives we do not understand took the lives of three
American soldiers and wounded 16 more before taking his own life.
Unfortunately, Mr. Speaker, this is not the first time Fort Hood has
had to endure a tragedy like this.
Our thoughts and prayers are with the victims, their families, and
the Fort Hood community. We pray for a speedy recovery to the wounded
and extend our deepest condolences to the friends and families of those
soldiers who lost their lives.
We stand ready to provide any and all assistance we can to support
Fort Hood, the soldiers serving there, and the surrounding community.
Now I yield to my good friend and colleague and ally in supporting
this incredible community which we both have the honor to represent,
Congressman Williams.
Mr. WILLIAMS. Mr. Speaker, it is said that all give some, and some
give their all. Once again, we have seen tragedy at Fort Hood, ``The
Great Place,'' and already we are witnessing the strength and
resilience of a community of brave men and women who not only serve our
country overseas in enemy territory, but right here at home on military
posts around the Nation.
Our prayers are with the fallen troops, those who were injured and
are still in recovery, and the families of all those involved. Our
thoughts are with the entire Fort Hood community and great leadership
team under General Milley as they stand together and push through this
tough time. We will continue praying for the excellent medical team
assisting the injured.
And perhaps most importantly, we will not forget the troops whose
lives were lost yesterday. The best and the brightest is what we offer
at Fort Hood. Their service and sacrifice are an
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inspiration reminding us that America doesn't give because it is rich,
America is rich because it gives, and it has given us all of those we
honor today.
May God bless all of the Fort Hood community during this time, and
may God bless America.
Mr. CARTER. Mr. Speaker, at this time, I would like to ask the House
to join me in a moment of silence and hopefully prayer for the Fort
Hood community and all those families of the injured and dead at Fort
Hood today.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. All present rise for a moment of silence.
Without objection, 5-minute voting will continue.
There was no objection.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the passage of the bill.
The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that
the ayes appeared to have it.
Recorded Vote
Mr. LEVIN. Mr. Speaker, I demand a recorded vote.
A recorded vote was ordered.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. This is a 5-minute vote.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 248,
noes 179, not voting 4, as follows:
[Roll No. 156]
AYES--248
Aderholt
Amash
Amodei
Bachmann
Bachus
Barber
Barletta
Barr
Barrow (GA)
Barton
Benishek
Bentivolio
Bera (CA)
Bilirakis
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (UT)
Black
Blackburn
Boustany
Brady (TX)
Bridenstine
Brooks (AL)
Brooks (IN)
Broun (GA)
Buchanan
Bucshon
Burgess
Byrne
Calvert
Camp
Campbell
Cantor
Capito
Carter
Cassidy
Chabot
Chaffetz
Coble
Coffman
Cole
Collins (GA)
Collins (NY)
Conaway
Cook
Costa
Cotton
Cramer
Crawford
Crenshaw
Cuellar
Culberson
Daines
Davis, Rodney
Delaney
Denham
Dent
DeSantis
DesJarlais
Diaz-Balart
Duffy
Duncan (SC)
Duncan (TN)
Ellmers
Farenthold
Fincher
Fitzpatrick
Fleischmann
Fleming
Flores
Forbes
Fortenberry
Foxx
Franks (AZ)
Frelinghuysen
Gallego
Gardner
Garrett
Gerlach
Gibbs
Gibson
Gingrey (GA)
Gohmert
Goodlatte
Gosar
Gowdy
Granger
Graves (GA)
Graves (MO)
Griffin (AR)
Griffith (VA)
Grimm
Guthrie
Hall
Hanna
Harper
Harris
Hartzler
Hastings (WA)
Heck (NV)
Hensarling
Herrera Beutler
Holding
Hudson
Huelskamp
Huizenga (MI)
Hultgren
Hunter
Hurt
Issa
Jenkins
Johnson (OH)
Johnson, Sam
Jolly
Jones
Jordan
Joyce
Kelly (PA)
King (IA)
King (NY)
Kingston
Kinzinger (IL)
Kline
Labrador
LaMalfa
Lamborn
Lance
Latham
Latta
Lipinski
LoBiondo
Long
Lucas
Luetkemeyer
Lummis
Marchant
Marino
Massie
Matheson
McAllister
McCarthy (CA)
McCaul
McClintock
McHenry
McIntyre
McKeon
McKinley
McMorris Rodgers
Meadows
Meehan
Messer
Mica
Miller (FL)
Miller (MI)
Miller, Gary
Mullin
Mulvaney
Murphy (FL)
Murphy (PA)
Neugebauer
Noem
Nugent
Nunes
Nunnelee
Olson
Palazzo
Paulsen
Pearce
Perry
Peters (CA)
Peterson
Petri
Pittenger
Pitts
Poe (TX)
Pompeo
Posey
Price (GA)
Rahall
Reed
Reichert
Renacci
Ribble
Rice (SC)
Rigell
Roby
Roe (TN)
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rogers (MI)
Rohrabacher
Rokita
Rooney
Ros-Lehtinen
Roskam
Ross
Rothfus
Royce
Runyan
Ryan (WI)
Sanford
Scalise
Schneider
Schock
Schrader
Schweikert
Scott, Austin
Sensenbrenner
Sessions
Shimkus
Shuster
Simpson
Sinema
Smith (MO)
Smith (NE)
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Southerland
Stewart
Stivers
Stockman
Stutzman
Terry
Thompson (PA)
Thornberry
Tiberi
Tipton
Turner
Upton
Valadao
Wagner
Walberg
Walden
Walorski
Weber (TX)
Webster (FL)
Wenstrup
Westmoreland
Whitfield
Williams
Wilson (SC)
Wittman
Wolf
Womack
Woodall
Yoder
Yoho
Young (AK)
Young (IN)
NOES--179
Bass
Beatty
Becerra
Bishop (NY)
Blumenauer
Bonamici
Brady (PA)
Braley (IA)
Brown (FL)
Brownley (CA)
Bustos
Butterfield
Capps
Capuano
Caardenas
Carney
Carson (IN)
Cartwright
Castro (TX)
Chu
Cicilline
Clark (MA)
Clarke (NY)
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Cohen
Connolly
Conyers
Cooper
Courtney
Crowley
Cummings
Davis (CA)
Davis, Danny
DeFazio
DeGette
DeLauro
DelBene
Deutch
Dingell
Doggett
Doyle
Duckworth
Edwards
Ellison
Engel
Enyart
Eshoo
Esty
Farr
Fattah
Foster
Frankel (FL)
Fudge
Gabbard
Garamendi
Garcia
Grayson
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Gutieerrez
Hahn
Hanabusa
Hastings (FL)
Heck (WA)
Higgins
Himes
Hinojosa
Holt
Honda
Horsford
Hoyer
Huffman
Israel
Jackson Lee
Jeffries
Johnson (GA)
Johnson, E. B.
Kaptur
Keating
Kelly (IL)
Kennedy
Kildee
Kilmer
Kind
Kirkpatrick
Kuster
Langevin
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Lee (CA)
Levin
Lewis
Loebsack
Lofgren
Lowenthal
Lowey
Lujan Grisham (NM)
Lujaan, Ben Ray (NM)
Maffei
Maloney, Carolyn
Maloney, Sean
Matsui
McCarthy (NY)
McCollum
McDermott
McGovern
McNerney
Meeks
Meng
Michaud
Miller, George
Moore
Moran
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal
Negrete McLeod
Nolan
O'Rourke
Owens
Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor (AZ)
Payne
Pelosi
Perlmutter
Peters (MI)
Pingree (ME)
Pocan
Polis
Price (NC)
Quigley
Rangel
Richmond
Roybal-Allard
Ruiz
Ruppersberger
Rush
Ryan (OH)
Saanchez, Linda T.
Sanchez, Loretta
Sarbanes
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schwartz
Scott (VA)
Scott, David
Serrano
Sewell (AL)
Shea-Porter
Sherman
Sires
Slaughter
Smith (WA)
Speier
Swalwell (CA)
Takano
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Tierney
Titus
Tonko
Tsongas
Van Hollen
Vargas
Veasey
Vela
Velaazquez
Visclosky
Walz
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Waxman
Welch
Wilson (FL)
Yarmuth
NOT VOTING--4
Castor (FL)
Lankford
Lynch
Salmon
{time} 1521
So the bill was passed.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.
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