[Congressional Record Volume 160, Number 47 (Tuesday, March 25, 2014)]
[Senate]
[Pages S1703-S1706]
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SUPPORT FOR THE SOVEREIGNTY, INTEGRITY, DEMOCRACY, AND ECONOMIC
STABILITY OF UKRAINE ACT OF 2014--MOTION TO PROCEED
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Under the previous order, the Senate will
resume consideration of the motion to proceed to S. 2124, which the
clerk will report.
The assistant legislative clerk read as follows:
Motion to proceed to Calendar No. 329, S. 2124, a bill to
support sovereignty and democracy in Ukraine, and for other
purposes.
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Mr. CORKER. Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
The assistant legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. RUBIO. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for
the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. RUBIO. Mr. President, my understanding is we are on the motion to
proceed.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. We are.
Mr. RUBIO. I wanted to speak about the issue of Ukraine. I get a lot
of questions, phone calls, emails about it. It has certainly been on
the minds of a lot of people across the country. The most common
question that I get is: What do we do about it? What can we do? Related
to that is the question of: Why does this even matter?
I am going to get to that in my conclusion. But on this motion that
is now before the Senate, where we are being asked to vote on a package
of sanctions and also assistance to Ukraine, I wanted to first outline
what it is we can do moving forward in addition to this bill that is
before us, but also why this bill that is before us is so important.
I think there are a couple of things that we really need to focus on
in terms of our reaction to what has happened with regards to Crimea
and with Ukraine, in particular, because of the Russian actions that
have been taken.
First and most important we need to help the Ukrainian people and the
interim government in Ukraine to protect its nation's sovereignty but
also to protect its transition to democracy--to full democracy.
They have elections scheduled in May of this year. For these
elections it is going to be critical that they go off smoothly, that
they are free and they are fair because that is an important step in
their transition to democracy.
But we should anticipate that Russia, through Putin, is going to do
everything it can to disrupt these elections, to delegitimize these
elections. We already see evidence in open source reporting in the
media that, in fact, there are highly trained agitators sponsored by
the Kremlin that have found their way into Ukraine and could
potentially participate in ways to try to disrupt these elections.
So I think one of the first things we can do, working with our allies
in Europe, is to help them with the logistical support they need to
carry out in May elections that are free and are fair and to help them
with the biggest step they are going to take so far towards a
transition to democracy in Ukraine.
The second action we need to take to help Ukraine to protect its
sovereignty and to make its transition to democracy is to help them
stabilize their economy. You can imagine that this disruptive change in
government, combined with an invasion of its territories, has been
highly disruptive to their economy, which was already feeling some real
constraints. That is why the bill before us is so critical. In addition
to some of the direct assistance, it will help them access loans that
will allow them to stabilize their economic situation.
What we can anticipate is that Russia is going to do everything it
can to disrupt their economy. Again, the Russian argument here is--it
is a ridiculous argument. But the argument they are making to the world
is: Ukraine is a failed state. The Russian-speaking population is being
threatened. So we have to get involved. We must intervene to try to
stabilize that situation.
That is the argument they have made in Crimea. Increasingly, that is
the argument they seem to be making with regard to Eastern Ukraine. So
the bill before us is critical because it will be a major step on the
part of this government to do its part, in conjunction with our allies
in Europe, to help Ukrainians stabilize their economy.
As I have shared before, I have some real concerns about some of the
language that is in this bill. It has to do with these changes to the
IMF that I do not think belong in this legislation. I do not think they
belong in this legislation for two reasons. One, I do not think that we
should be taking up an issue of that importance in this manner. We
should have a full debate. That should be dealt with separately. But I
also think it was a mistake by this administration to include the IMF
language in this bill because what we need as much as anything else is
not just to pass this bill out of the Senate but to pass it with the
most amount of support possible.
I want to see it be 100 to 0 or 95 to 5 so we can send a very strong
message to Russia and the world that the United States of America and
her people are firmly on the side of Ukraine's sovereignty and
Ukraine's desire for independence from Russia and its ability to
stabilize itself in moving forward. That, quite frankly, is endangered
as a result of the administration's decision to push this divisive
language into this bill. There was no reason for them to do that.
In fact, that sentiment is not a Republican sentiment. It is being
echoed in the House, where a number of Democrats today are quoted in
newspaper articles as saying that this is a mistake, that they should
never have done this. If they were to take this language out, you would
pass a bill in the House and Senate this week. We could have passed one
before we left 2 weeks ago. Instead, it continues to have to go through
a prolonged debate and divisiveness.
There are people who have had to vote against it here on the floor
because they feel so strongly about the IMF language. We could have had
their support. We could have sent a stronger message than the one that
is being sent now.
I have those concerns. By the way, there was a statement made on the
floor yesterday that I think deserves to be addressed. The majority
leader stood here and said that, basically, the reason that--
Republicans are responsible for the loss of Crimea in an effort to help
a family that is engaged in American politics. I think that statement
is absurd and ridiculous. I think it is the kind of hyperbole that in
issues such as this has no place.
At some point there have to be issues so big and so important to the
national security of this country that they are above politics and
above that sort of statement. That being said, while I share the same
concerns that many of my colleagues do about the IMF language, and
initially expressed my position that I was not willing to vote for this
bill with it, after much thought and consideration over the last couple
of weeks, researching the issues, I made the conclusion that in the
cost-benefit analysis, helping Ukraine stabilize itself, helping
Ukraine stabilize its economy, given the importance of this issue, it
is so important that I am prepared to vote for this despite the fact
that it has something in it that I do not like. That is how important I
think this issue truly is.
Oftentimes in foreign policy that is what we are called to do. We are
called to make pragmatic decisions that are in the best interests of
America and our allies around the world, even if it is less than ideal
or perhaps not the complete solution that we want. That is why I voted
to proceed with the debate on this bill yesterday. That is why I am
prepared to support it despite the inclusion of IMF language that I am
strongly against--because I think this issue is that important.
The third thing we can do to help Ukraine protect its sovereignty and
make its full transition to democracy is to help them with their
defense capability. Now, understand that when the Soviet Union fell in
the early 1990s, Ukraine was left with the world's third largest
stockpile of tactical nuclear weapons and strategic nuclear weapons on
the planet.
But they signed this agreement with the United States, the United
Kingdom, and Russia that basically said: If you give up your nuclear
weapons, we, these three countries that signed this, will provide for
your defense and assure you of your defense. So Ukraine did that. They
gave up these weapons. This was signed in 1994, and 20 years later, one
of the three countries that signed that agreement has not just not
provided for their defense, they actually invaded them.
I want to make a point on this for a second. Think about if you were
one of these other countries around the world right now that feels
threatened by your neighbors, and the United States and the rest of the
world are going to you and saying: Listen, do not develop nuclear
weapons. Do not develop nuclear weapons, South Korea. Do not develop
nuclear weapons, Japan. Do not develop nuclear weapons, Saudi Arabia.
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We will protect you. We will watch out for you.
What kind of lesson do you think this instance sends to them? I think
the message this is sending to many nations around the world is:
Perhaps we can no longer count on the security promises made by the
free world. Perhaps we need to start looking out for ourselves. That is
why the Ukrainian situation is so more important than simply what is
happening in Europe. This has implications around the world.
There are a number of countries around the world now that are
considering increasing their defense capabilities, including a nuclear
capacity, because they feel threatened by neighbors that have a nuclear
capacity themselves. So far they have held back because they have
relied on the United States and our partners to assure them that they
do not need these weapons, that we have their back. But now when
something like this happens, these countries see it as further evidence
that potentially those sorts of assurances are no longer enough in the
21st century.
That raises the real risk that over the next 2 decades, you could see
an explosion in the number of countries around the world that possess a
nuclear weapons capability because they now feel that they must protect
themselves and can no longer rely on other countries to do it for them.
So how can we help Ukraine with its military and defense
capabilities? By providing them assistance. By the way, the Ukraine
military capability degraded not just because of their overconfidence
in these assurances that were made to them, but there was also
corruption in that government. In fact, the previous president who was
ousted by a popular revolt, that president actually undermined the
defense capabilities of that country and took a lot of that money and
used it for internal control, to be able to control his own population
instead of being able to protect his country.
So what can we do to help? The first thing that I have called for us
to do is to provide Ukraine with more military equipment and more
training. We should work with our NATO allies and the European Union to
help equip and train the Ukrainian military forces so that they can
protect the country now and moving forward. We can also share
intelligence information with them to help them better position their
assets and understand and have a better awareness of what is going on
around them.
We can also help them with logistical support. These are the sorts of
things that I hope this administration will take steps toward in the
next couple of days. So that is the first thing we can do. We can help
Ukraine protect its sovereignty and make its full transition to
democracy.
The second thing we need to do is we need to continue to raise the
price on Putin for the invasion of Crimea. We need to change the
calculation, the cost-benefit calculation that he is going to go
through as he decides whether to move into Eastern Ukraine now and
potentially even parts of Moldova.
So already some steps have been taken in that regard. I applaud the
administration for having additional sanctions announced last week. I
think we are going to have to continue to do more in conjunction with
our allies. I think we need to add more names of individuals, of
financial institutions, and of businesses, primarily those who have
links to this invasion, but also Russia's involvement in supporting the
Syrian regime as it carries out the mass slaughter of its own people.
I think we need to suspend our civil and nuclear cooperation
agreement that was entered into as part of the 123 agreement 4 years
ago as a strong message to them. I think we need to reassess the role
that NATO plays in Europe. NATO was largely built around the Soviet
risks in Western Europe.
Then, after the fall of the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold War,
NATO kind of lost its way a little bit in terms of its role in Europe
because there was no threat. In fact, you saw some of these countries
saying, you know, it is likely that NATO's role now will be about
operations in the Middle East or in Africa and being involved in
threats there as opposed to actually having to defend our own
territory.
The facts on the ground in Europe have changed dramatically in the
last 2 months. You now, in fact, do have a powerful military force in
the region that has shown a willingness to invade a neighbor. They did
this in 2008 in Georgia. They are doing it again now in a way that is
even more egregious and outrageous. I think it is time for NATO to
reevaluate its capabilities, given this new threat that is here to
stay.
Also, the time has come for NATO to reposition its assets to face
this threat and this risk. I think and I hope that those conversations
are happening now. I think for NATO, in many respects, it is time to
reinvigorate this alliance. It has a clear and present danger in Europe
in the form of the government of Vladimir Putin, who threatens his
neighbors and the stability of Europe. So now I think NATO has found a
reason to reinvigorate itself.
The last point I would make, in terms of changing the calculus, is
the real stranglehold Russia has on Europe. It is not simply its
military capabilities, it is its natural resources. Much of Europe
depends on Russia for its oil and natural gas. This creates a
tremendous amount of leverage on their neighbors. One of the reasons we
have seen some countries in Europe reluctant to move forward on even
higher sanctions is because they are afraid of losing access to the
natural gas and oil from Russia that their economy depends on.
We need to change that. That can't happen overnight, but we need to
begin to change that; first, by increasing our exports to those
countries and particularly Ukraine. I know Senator Barrasso will have
an amendment as part of this debate that I hope will be considered that
will allow us to export more natural gas to Ukraine. But what also
needs to happen is other countries in Europe need to develop their own
domestic capabilities in natural gas so they can become less reliant on
Russia for these resources and become more reliant on themselves and
free countries in the region to be able to do that. That is a critical
component of a long-term strategy in all of this.
Let me close by answering the question I began with. Why does this
matter? I think this matters for a lot of different reasons. I have
highlighted one, in terms of decisions being made around the world and
governments deciding whether they are going to pursue their own
domestic nuclear weapons capability, but there is another that perhaps
we need to think about.
After World War II--in fact, after the last century when the world
went through two devastating World Wars--there was a commitment made
that no longer would nations be allowed to aggressively invade other
countries and take over territory and exercise illegitimate claims. In
fact, international norms were established at the end of World War II.
There were some conflicts during the Cold War with Russia, with the
Soviet Union, and with the spread of communism, but by and large,
especially since the end of the Cold War, that has been the established
norm.
It is not acceptable in the late 20th century and in the early 21st
century for a country to simply make up an excuse and invade a neighbor
and take their lands and territory. That was perhaps the way of the
world 300 years ago, 200 years ago, and 100 years ago, and there were
massive wars and loss of life as a result of countries doing that, but
the world grew tired of these conflicts and decided we will no longer
tolerate or accept these sorts of things. If you recall, in the early
1990s, Saddam Hussein did that. He invaded Kuwait. The entire world
community rallied around the United States of America to expel him as a
result of that illegitimate action.
In the 21st century, we have the most egregious violation of that
norm. We basically have Russia deciding they don't like the way things
are going in Ukraine so they decide to invade. They decided to take
over a territory. Think about how they did it. They denied ever doing
it. They sent Russian troops into Crimea, but they had them wear
uniforms that had no markings on them. In fact, the press would ask
these soldiers: Where are you from, and they wouldn't answer. They
invaded a country but lied about their invasion. They claimed these
were local defense forces that had rallied around the Russian flag.
They made up this excuse
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that somehow the Russian-speaking population in the region was being
oppressed and attacked and was in danger and so they needed to
intervene.
To this day, Russia still will not admit the military role they are
playing on the ground in Crimea. So in addition to violating this
international norm, which is an outrageous behavior, they have lied
about it and think they can get away with it. The point I am making is,
if in the 21st century a country is allowed to invade a neighbor, lie
about it and lie about the reasons for it and they can get away with it
without significant costs, we have created a dangerous precedent with
which we are going to have to live. All over the world there are
powerful nations that can now claim land they do not control belongs to
them.
I took a trip in February to Asia. I visited Japan and the
Philippines and South Korea. You know what the No. 1 fear in that
region is. That China has similar claims to Russia. They claim all
sorts of pieces of territory and of oceans that belong to them. They
claim it belonged to them 1,000 years ago and should belong to them
now. They have taken a different tack, but the point is, if we now live
in a world where a country can make territorial claims and then simply
act on them without any repercussions from the international community,
then I think the 21st century is starting to look more and more like
the early 20th century, a time that subjected the world to two
devastating World Wars.
We cannot allow this to go unpunished. The only way this can be
punished is if the free countries of the world rally together and
impose sanctions and costs on Vladimir Putin and his cronies for having
taken this action. That will never happen--the free world will never be
able to rally to impose those costs--unless the United States leads
that effort. We can't do it alone, but it cannot be done without us.
That is why it is so important that measures such as the one the
Senate now is considering happen with the highest amount of bipartisan
support we can muster. We may not agree with every aspect of it--I
certainly do not--but we must weigh the equities. If we were to put
this on a scale, the need to do something about Ukraine so far
outweighs the things about the legislation before us that we don't like
because of the implications it has not just on our Nation but on the
world and the role we must play. If some other country around the world
fails to pass sanctions, fails to take steps or does so in a way that
is divided, it might have some impact, but when the United States fails
to act in a decisive way, it has a dramatic impact.
One of the arguments our adversaries around the world use is asking
our allies: Why are you still in the camp of the United States? They
ask: Why are you still allying yourself with the United States? They
are unreliable. Their government is always bickering and deeply
divided. They can't come together in Washington to do anything. Do you
think, if you are ever invaded or ever get into trouble, the United
States could possibly muster the domestic political support necessary
for them to come to your assistance? Don't count on America. Count on
us or count on yourself.
I have already explained why there is danger in that, but that is the
argument these countries use against us. What I fear is that if we fail
to take decisive and unified action in this body, in the Senate, to
send a strong message--and while we may not agree on every component of
this, and I have already said I believe it was a mistake for the
administration to push for that IMF reform language--if we do not send
a strong and decisive message, then I think this will be spun against
us. I think this will be used as evidence to our allies and other
countries around the world why America is no longer reliable, either
economically or militarily.
The consequences of that could extend far beyond Europe into other
regions of the world, such as Asia. This is not a game. This is not
some domestic political dispute. This issue has ramifications that will
directly impact the kind of world our children will inherit. In fact,
it will dramatically impact the kind of world we will have to live in
over the next 20, 30, and 40 years. We cannot afford to make a mistake.
We cannot afford to be wrong.
I hope I can convince as many of my colleagues as possible to support
this legislation, with all of its flaws, so we can send a clear message
that on these issues we are united as a people and as a nation and that
we remain committed to U.S. global leadership.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The assistant majority leader.
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