[Congressional Record Volume 160, Number 42 (Thursday, March 13, 2014)]
[House]
[Pages H2428-H2431]
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REDUCING REGULATORY BURDEN
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under the Speaker's announced policy of
January 3, 2013, the Chair recognizes the gentleman from Oklahoma (Mr.
Lankford) for 30 minutes.
Mr. LANKFORD. Mr. Speaker, it is amazing when we get a chance to be
able to talk about something simple: Can a company run its own
business? That seems like a very straightforward statement. Of course a
company can run its own business. But it is fascinating to me when we
begin to go down the process of how many regulations and how many
things a company has to do to fulfill Federal mandates, and it begs one
simple question: Is Washington the boss of every company in America? Is
Washington the boss of every family in America? Quite frankly, is
Washington the boss of every employee in America? We don't work for
ourselves anymore unless we are given permission by the Federal
Government.
Now lest someone think I may be carrying this overboard, tonight we
want to have a little conversation on what is happening in our Nation
right now, when we have a Nation that is so focused on how we can wrap
around every business to decide what is best for the employees, what is
best for the employer, and what is best for everyone around them.
There are several Members here as well, and I want to yield to the
gentleman from Oklahoma (Mr. Mullin), who has been an amazing Member of
this House of Representatives in the work he has done, and he comes
with this small business perspective. He knows how to grow a business.
He grew a small business to a very large business that was very
significant, even through all of the regulatory process.
I yield to the gentleman from Oklahoma (Mr. Mullin).
Mr. MULLIN. I thank Mr. James Lankford from Oklahoma. What a
wonderful colleague you are. You are absolutely correct, and the only
reason I stand in front of you today is truly the biggest threat I had
as a business owner, from a gentleman who literally had the opportunity
to have a very small company and see how the Lord can bless it and take
it until now we employ over 120 people across the State of Oklahoma,
when I woke up one day and realized that the biggest threat I have to
my company is the Federal Government, that is a sad reality.
You are absolutely correct. It is ridiculous to sit and think we have
to ask Washington, D.C., for permission to be able to hire. They
literally regulate who we can hire and how we can fire them. We don't
ever want to fire an employee, but the truth is sometimes you have to
move on. The relationship doesn't work, and yet you are told how you
have to do that.
As a business owner, we want to hire the best people and keep the
best people. That is how we grow the company. But at the end of day
when we have to constantly ask permission how we do our job, can we do
our job this way, are we allowed to grow the company, are we allowed to
complete it, what agencies do we have to go through just to get a
permit to do something that needs to be accomplished, it gets out of
hand. We woke up one day and we realized we were spending 40 cents out
of every dollar that comes into our company to simply comply with a
mandate or a regulation coming down from the government. Forty cents
out of every dollar.
I was questioned one time on an interview. They said, How is that
possible? Aren't you including taxes?
I said: No, this doesn't include taxes.
The person said I don't believe what you are saying, and I challenge
you.
I told them, just walk the halls with me in my office, and you will
go past a compliance office, you will go past a payroll department,
which is strongly regulated. You will go by an H.R. department that is
strongly regulated, and so on and so on. I said you will be shocked how
much we spend on payroll just to meet those certain mandates and those
regulations.
It is literally laughable when you have people up here in Washington,
D.C., get up and say they got a job package. If they were really that
good at creating jobs, why didn't they do it before they got here? The
truth is they don't know because if they did, the only thing they would
have to do is start reining in the regulations. At the end of the day,
is America the land of opportunity because right now if Washington,
D.C., if the Federal Government continues to overregulate, the
opportunities and the entrepreneurial spirit that exists in America is
no longer going to exist.
I would like to thank the gentleman for bringing this to our
attention and taking the time and your time to say hey, enough is
enough.
Mr. LANKFORD. I thank the gentleman.
As the husband of an amazing lady and a dad of two amazing two young
daughters, I enjoyed the previous Special Order that happened here
about Women's History Month. I, as a dad, want to see my daughters be
able to succeed and have every single opportunity of every single other
American, and so I would like to yield to my colleague from New York so
she is able to enter some things into the Record.
Mrs. CAROLYN B. MALONEY of New York. I thank the gentleman for his
beautiful words. Certainly the museum will not be achieved without
like-minded men who support it.
Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to include for the Record an op-
ed that Marsha Blackburn and I wrote called ``The Women You Don't Know
Yet,'' and a beautiful, beautiful op-ed written by Renee Ellmers
representing the great State of North Carolina called ``A National
Museum For Women's History.''
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the
gentlewoman from New York?
There was no objection.
Mr. LANKFORD. I want to continue on this ongoing conversation. How do
decisions get made in America?
It is the assumption again that if you are a landowner or a farmer
and rancher, you look around your farm and you look for what is best
for your land and for your family, as well as for the families around
you. No one takes better care of the land than farmers and ranchers all
across America.
But it is interesting, as you go across western Oklahoma, you will
drive for miles and you will see barbwire fences. At the bottom of it,
they will have a small, little ribbon all the way across it. People
from outside the State might wonder what that is, but landowners know
what it is. That is the Fish and Wildlife Service has stepped onto
their private property and said that if you are going to have a fence
there in that spot, you have to mark the bottom wire in case a lesser
prairie chicken were to be in your area.
So hundreds of miles of fences have now been marked. People have been
hired or families have spent their precious time, instead of farming or
ranching, instead tagging barbwire in case there is a lesser prairie
chicken somewhere in the area, which I remind you, is not an endangered
species. It is a species that is being discussed to possibly be
threatened at some future point, but it is not listed as threatened. It
is not listed as endangered. But millions of dollars have been spent on
things like tagging barbwire fences and limiting roads.
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Now, landowners have to go to the Fish and Wildlife Service and ask
permission for how many head of cattle that they can have in a certain
area, in case a lesser prairie chicken happens to be in the area.
It is an interesting day that we have in America, that whether you
are farming, ranching, running a plumbing company, or whether you are a
contractor, it seems that Washington is the boss of us, and we make
decisions based on that.
I would like to be able to welcome in a colleague of mine from my
same class, who has been a leader not only in his State legislature,
but is now a leader here in this legislature, Mr. Alan Nunnelee. I
would like to be able to invite him to be able to come and continue on
this conversation.
Mr. NUNNELEE. Mr. Speaker, I want to thank my friend from Oklahoma
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his leadership in bringing focus to this important issue.
The foundation for our country rests on the shoulders of ``we the
people.'' Under our constitutional form of government, we the people
are the boss, and Washington is the servant.
Unfortunately, under this current administration, there is not a week
that goes by without more evidence of out-of-control bureaucracies
attempting to run local businesses through unnecessary rules and
regulations.
I could give many examples, but in the interest of time, I will just
give one. Columbus Brick Company is located in Columbus, Mississippi.
They have been making clay bricks since 1890. Mr. Al Puckett is the
fourth generation of that family to run that business.
After they spent substantial sums much money to bring the factory
into compliance with new Environmental Protection Agency regulations,
the EPA is now threatening new, even more expensive regulations without
any input from the public, from the stakeholders, from Congress, or
from we the people.
Last June, Mr. Puckett appeared before the House Judiciary Committee.
He testified:
If EPA uses the same approach that they have followed on
recent rules, Columbus Brick may cease to exist after almost
125 years of operation. I expect a minimum of having to shut
down 2 or 3 kilns. That will mean a permanent job loss of 45
to 50 families in our small rural community.
Sadly, Mr. Speaker, it gets worse. These EPA regulations do not
result in any significant benefit to the environment. The brick
industry in general--Columbus Brick Company in particular--is already
operating well within safe levels. Unfortunately, Columbus Brick
Company is not unique in the impact this rule would have on small
businesses. Many would be forced to close their doors.
Only in Washington are rules handed down to businesses without
allowing the affected parties the ability to weigh in before the
settlement agreements are adopted. Environmental regulations should be
fair, reasonable, and they should balance costs versus benefits.
This body understands this concept, and that is why, in February, we
passed the ALERRT Act, which would require the administration to
account for the cost of excessive regulations to minimize the impact on
small businesses.
Mr. Puckett stated it best:
We are not asking for the rule to go away. We are asking
that the practice of establishing unreasonable deadlines
without input from the impacted industries go away.
Mr. Speaker, Mississippians know that the power and drive of America
is in the individual, and the great solutions to the great challenges
facing our country don't come in Washington, neither do they come in
our State capitals. The challenges to our solutions can be found around
our kitchen tables and our homes and our churches and our communities.
Unfortunately, it is the mentality that the government is the boss.
It has been oppressive on companies like Columbus Brick, but their
spirit of survival is what has allowed them to survive for several
generations. Washington, and particularly not the EPA, is not the boss
of Columbus Brick.
Mr. LANKFORD. I thank the gentleman for Mississippi for being here
and being part of this conversation because this does affect every
single corner of our Nation.
Everywhere we go, this tends to be the same issue repeated over and
over again. How do individuals make decisions and not have to wait for
the Federal Government to be able to give them permission to be able to
do this?
We could go on and on, but let me just give you several other
examples that some people may know well and some people may not know
well.
If you are going to put in a traffic light, just a simple
installation, maybe a day or two at an intersection, to be able to put
in a traffic light at an intersection, somewhere in the vicinity of
that, there will be a board that has been placed up by the company.
There will be 24 different posters stapled to that board to give
instructions to anyone who happens to be at that job site installing a
traffic light for a day or two of all of their rights under the
Department of Labor rules--24 posters posted outside somewhere in the
vicinity around where they are doing construction on a traffic light.
Does anyone think that is common sense? I would assume not; but yet
it is all over the country. Every company that is installing traffic
lights or working on roads or bridges or anywhere they may be, they are
hauling around this giant board and putting it up because the Federal
Government makes them do it. As they install it, they all think the
same thing. Do I work for the government, or does the government work
for me?
Many banks in America now, after the Dodd-Frank regulations were
passed just 5 years ago, when those regulations were passed--or that
law was passed and the regulations are now promulgated, banks will tell
you, all over the country--small banks, family-owned banks in small
rural communities, medium-sized banks, banks that had nothing to do
with the meltdown that happened in our economy in 2008 and 2009--these
community banks will tell you many of them have a regulator sitting
there full time now.
If not full time, multiple times a year, for weeks on end, a
government regulator comes and sits down at their bank and goes through
every single piece of everything.
Many of these banks will tell you, if they call one of these
regulators and say: Hey, I am thinking about making a loan, and I am
considering this, I need to know, when you evaluate my bank, what are
you going to say on this, many of the regulators will say: Well, I will
evaluate it when I see it.
They won't give them proactive advice. They won't actually help them
in advance, but they will show up at the end of it and be able to
downgrade them if they made the wrong decision.
That is not a government that is designed to serve you. That is a
government that we serve. Banks have suddenly become entities of the
Federal Government, constantly worried about some Federal regulator
coming in and what they may or may not do. Again, Washington is not our
boss.
The overtime rules that were just proposed today by the President, it
seems like a such a nice thing to do. If someone works overtime, they
should get additional pay, but leaving out this simple fact: people all
over America worked hourly and worked to get to a salaried position, so
then they saw that as a promotion.
Suddenly, the President of the United States is stepping in and
saying: I am going to actually demote you again and put you back on an
hourly-type situation, that if you make a certain amount, you are going
to have to count your hours.
Well, what really happens in real life with that? Well, I can tell
you immediately after that rule gets promulgated, Pam Parks, who owns
Blue Wave and Silver Wave Boats in Seminole, Oklahoma, contacts me
immediately and says: Does the President have any idea what this would
mean in real life in a real business?
I can tell Pam probably not because what it will mean in real life
for her, what it will mean in real life for her employees, what it will
mean in real life for companies all over America are multiple things,
that when the President in Washington shows up at a business and says
it is obvious you don't take care of your employees, so we are going to
force you to do this, and we are going to take over your business, and
we are going to run your payroll different than how you are running it,
what really happens is salaried workers suddenly step back down to
hourly workers, and someone who really wants to succeed and is going to
put in the time to do that, the boss has to step in to them onsite and
say: you can't work more than 40 hours. I know you wanted to be here
and to do extra stuff and try to work your way up the ladder. No, you
can't do that; because at a certain pay level, there is a cut off
there, and you have to have extra overtime.
Now, someone who may make a little bit more, they can stay extra,
they can work their way up the ladder, but someone else now will be
prohibited from doing that.
As odd as it sounds, what just occurred was the President just
imposed a new ceiling in workplaces all over the country with no one
passing a law, with no regulation being promulgated, just a
declaration, and everything just changed for a lot of Americans all
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the country, and a new cap was just placed in a lot of places.
People that worked for years to move to salary just got demoted back
to hourly, and now, their boss is watching over them. Sadly, that boss
is Washington, D.C. That is not right for Blue Wave and Silver Wave
Boats in Seminole, Oklahoma. That is not right for businesses all over
America.
If I get into an issue that is somewhat controversial, excuse me, but
let me count the ways that ObamaCare demonstrates that Washington,
D.C., wants to be the boss of every business and of every American.
ObamaCare, when it passed, said to every American: I know that you
plan your budget and you plan your life in certain ways. We don't like
how you do that. You are suddenly going to do it our way. You are going
to buy a product you haven't purchased before, whether you are healthy
or not, because we want you to, because we are your boss and we are
going to tell you what products you are going to buy. If you want to
buy a different insurance policy, I am sorry. That insurance policy is
not good enough for us in Washington. You have got to pick the one that
we pick in Washington.
That is not American. Now, it is a great thing to make sure that
everyone in America has access to health care, but to then go to every
family and say: It is going to be more than just access to, it is going
to be requirement for, whether it fits your budget or not, and by the
way, the government is going to pick what fits your budget.
That means Washington is suddenly the boss of you. In every workplace
across the country, Washington, D.C., is now trying to decide which
insurance policies work best for them--that is, Washington, not for the
people in that company. Washington is not the boss of us. We are
individuals that have freedom.
There is a company named Hobby Lobby. It happens to be based in my
hometown. It is an absolutely amazing family that has lived out their
faith for years. People see Hobby Lobby as this giant company.
Just a few decades ago, Hobby Lobby was in a garage and was a couple
of sons cutting out picture frames for their dad, and they were selling
these little tiny picture frames and starting their own tiny little
frame shop.
That tiny little frame shop is now all over this country and is known
to be this great retailer Hobby Lobby. They have practiced faith
principles from the very beginning of their company. They close on
Sundays. They close early on Wednesdays. They pay well more than
minimum wage. They have always had great health care coverage.
They are a company that lives out biblical values in the workplace.
They play Christian music even over the loudspeakers at the stores.
They are a place that, when you shop, you enjoy shopping there. People
love to take care of people there. That is part of their corporate
mentality.
It is also a couple of owners and that family that is also opposed to
abortion. They have the unusual belief that millions and millions of
other Americans believe that children are valuable and that children
are important and precious. They happen to have a faith that believes
that the child deserves life.
Well, the President disagrees with that faith; so when ObamaCare--
literally, the regulations say to that business: You cannot operate
your business under faith principles if that faith principle is
different than the President's.
Why do I say that? Because if Hobby Lobby did not provide insurance
at all--at all to their employees, they would be fined $2,000 per
person, per year, if they refuse to provide insurance.
If they provide all insurance with everything included in it that
ObamaCare requires, except for four abortifacient drugs--just leave out
those four. Based on religious views they don't agree with, those four
abortifacient drugs--if they don't provide those four, their fine is
$36,500 per employee, per year.
Let me run this past you again: $2,000 per employee if they provide
nothing; $36,500 per employee if they provide everything, except those
four abortifacient drugs.
How serious is this administration about being the boss of that
company and telling them: If your faith practice is different than
ours, it is obvious the consequences are shutting down a company?
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No one can afford a fine of $36,500. So, basically, the Green family
has to choose to either live their faith or to keep their business
open, but they can't do both at the same time.
What kind of country is this? What have we become when the simple
freedom of religion can be swept aside by a Washington that says: If I
don't agree with your faith, you have to change your practice?
Washington is not the boss of our companies. Washington is not the
boss of our faith. We have a constitutional right to be able to live
out our faith.
I received a letter and information from a great Oklahoma company in
Stillwater, Oklahoma. It is Frontier Electronic Systems. It is
interesting to be able to read what they are dealing with day-to-day
just with Federal regulations. Here is one statement.
They wrote:
A phrase I have borrowed regarding most of these Federal
regulations is that they ``do not scale.'' As a company with
113 employees, we are as accountable for compliance as if we
had 113,000 employees. Needless to say, we have far fewer
resources available--dollars and people power--than a larger
employer has to ensure compliance. Also, compliance with many
of the regulations requires some level of knowledge and
experience in specific human resources specialties--staffing,
benefits, et cetera--due to the fact that many of the laws
are complicated and interrelated. Many smaller companies are
fortunate to have even one experienced HR professional, let
alone one that has extensive knowledge in multiple HR
specialties.
What are they talking about with that?
Let me just give you an example. Because this great company also
occasionally does some Federal contracting, here is the list of the
regulations that this company must fulfill. To be a company and to be
open in America right now, this is what this particular company has to
fulfill. They have to follow these specific regulations:
The Age Discrimination in Employment Act; the American Recovery and
Reinvestment Act of 2009--the regs that are in there; the American
Taxpayer Relief Act of 2012; the Americans with Disabilities Act; the
Black Lung Benefits Act; the Children's Health Insurance Program
Reauthorization Act of 2009; the Consolidated Omnibus Budget
Reconciliation Act of 1986; the Copeland Act of 1934; the Consumer
Credit Protection Act; the Contract Work Hours and Safety Standards
Act; the Davis-Bacon Act; the Dodd-Frank Act of 2011; the Drug-Free
Workplace Act of 1988; the Employee Polygraph Protection Act; the
Employee Retirement Income Security Act; the Energy Employees
Occupational Illness Compensation Program Act; the Equal Pay Act;
Executive Order 11246 of 1965; Executive Order 13201; the Fair and
Accurate Credit Transactions Act; the Federal Corrupt Practices Act;
the Fair Credit Reporting Act; the Fair Labor Standards Act; the Family
and Medical Leave Act; the Federal Employees' Compensation Act; the
Federal Insurance Contributions Act; the Federal Mine Safety and Health
Act; the Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act; the Health Care and
Education Reconciliation Act; the Health Insurance Portability and
Accountability Act; the Hiring Incentives to Restore Employment Act of
2010; the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986; the Immigration
and Nationality Act; the Jury Service and Selection Act; the Labor-
Management Reporting and Disclosure Act; the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay
Act of 2007; the Longshore and Harbor Workers' Compensation Act; the
McNamara-O'Hara Service Contract Act; the Mental Health and Addiction
Equity Act of 2008; the Mental Health Parity Act; the Migrant and
Seasonal Agricultural Worker Protection Act; the National Labor
Relations Act; the Newborns' and Mothers' Health Protection Act of
1996; the Norris-LaGuardia Act of 1932; the Occupational Safety and
Health Act; the OSHA Hazard Communication Standard; the Patient
Protection and Affordable Care Act--that is a big one; that is
ObamaCare--the Pension Protection Act of 2006; the Pregnancy
Discrimination Act; the Rehabilitation Act of 1973; the Sarbanes-Oxley
Act; the Sherman Anti-Trust Act of 1890; title VII of the Civil Rights
Act of 1964; the Uniform Guidelines on Employee Selection Procedures of
1978; the Uniformed Services Employment and Reemployment
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Rights Act of 1994; the Veterans Benefits Improvement Act of 2004; the
Vietnam Era Veterans' Readjustment Assistance Act; the Walsh-Healey
Act; the War Hazards Compensation Act; the Women's Health and Cancer
Rights Act of 1998; the Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification
Act; and the Workforce Reinvestment and Adult Education Act.
Can anyone keep up with that? This business has to. With 113
employees, how many people does it take just to keep up with those
regulations?
Mr. Speaker, we have a problem. We have a Washington, D.C., that has
become arrogant. I don't think it is intentional. Quite frankly, I
think everyone is trying to be very kind--overly kind--and they stack
on one regulation on another, and there suddenly becomes a day when no
company can keep up with this.
The attitude is simple: we know better than you. You won't run your
company like it should be run, so we are going to come tell you how to
run it. You won't run your family like it should be run, so we are
going to tell you how to run your family farm. You won't run your bank
like it should be run, so we are going to come run it for you. You
won't run your insurance company like it should be run, so we are going
to come run it for you. You mistreat your employees, so we are going to
take over your health care system, and we will run it for you.
Mr. Speaker, that is not what we are as Americans. We are a nation
that became strong because we are a nation that is free. We changed the
world with a simple work ethic and the ability for people to be able to
achieve success. That did not include a laundry list of protections
from the Federal Government that swallow up a business.
Is there anything wrong with the government's setting the boundaries
for business? No. It is part of the role of government. But when it
becomes this, we are drowning. Now, suddenly, Washington is the boss of
us, and this has got to turn around.
Mr. Speaker, simple decisions have to be made.
Can States do things that the Federal Government is currently doing?
Yes, there are things the Federal Government is doing it has no
business doing. They are the responsibility of a State.
Should families go back to making decisions and businesses making
decisions?
Yes, they should. That means there is risk. With risk comes great
reward. We became the strongest and most prosperous nation on the
planet because our people were not afraid of risk and the rest of the
world was. We can get back to that, but we have got to make a simple
decision: Is Washington the boss of us or are the American people the
boss of Washington?
With that, Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
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