[Congressional Record Volume 160, Number 36 (Tuesday, March 4, 2014)]
[Senate]
[Pages S1260-S1262]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
UKRAINE
Mr. McCAIN. I thank my colleague from Connecticut for his thoughtful
remarks on events taking place and the tragedies taking place in
Ukraine as we speak. I appreciate his commitment to trying to find a
way through this very difficult situation.
The Senator is dead wrong when he says this is similar to Georgia. In
fact, this Senator wanted to do a lot more than we did. In fact, we did
a lot more. The fundamental problem, I say to my friend from
Connecticut, is that this President does not understand Vladimir Putin.
He does not understand his ambitions. He does not understand that
Vladimir Putin is an old KGB colonel bent on restoration of the Russian
empire. It was Vladimir Putin who said: The greatest catastrophe of the
20th century was the downfall of the Soviet Union.
The Senator from Connecticut should understand that. This President
has never understood this. This President is the one who ridiculed Mitt
Romney when Mitt Romney said our great enemy was Russia and its
geopolitical threats. This President said the Cold War has been over
for 20 years. This President believes the Cold War is over, but
Vladimir Putin doesn't believe the Cold War is over.
When the President of the United States is overheard to say to Mr.
Putin's puppet, Mr. Medvedev: Tell Vladimir that after I am reelected I
will be more flexible.
Did you get that? The President said: Tell Vladimir after I am
reelected I will be more flexible. This is the same
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President who believed that somehow Vladimir Putin had anything but the
ambitions which he is now realizing in Ukraine. In fact, I think it
might be interesting for my colleagues to note that Vladimir Putin
spoke to the press today and Vladimir Putin, among other things, during
his answering questions from the press, said:
First of all, my assessment of what happened in Kiev and in
Ukraine in general. There can only be one assessment: this
was an anti-constitutional takeover, an armed seizure of
power.
That was Vladimir Putin's view of what happened in Kiev as Yanukovych
slaughtered, I believe, 82 innocent civilians as well as wounding
hundreds.
Then he goes on to say:
I would like to stress that under that agreement Mr.
Yanukovych actually handed over power.
Obviously, Yanukovych did not hand over power. He was driven from
power by the good people who were tired of his corruption and were sick
of his nepotism and his crony capitalism. Anybody who believes anything
good about Mr. Yanukovych should see the pictures of the home he had
and the dacha he was building that cost hundreds of millions of
dollars--truly a man of the people.
President Putin went on to say:
The current acting president [of Ukraine] is definitely not
legitimate. There is only one legitimate president, from a
legal standpoint. . . . Yanukovych is the only undoubtedly
legitimate President.
Then comes more interesting things. Vladimir Putin now says:
Now about financial aid to Crimea. As you know, we have
decided to organize work in the Russian regions to aid
Crimea, which has turned to us for humanitarian support. We
will provide it, of course. I cannot say how much, when or
how. The government is working on this by bringing together
the regions bordering on Crimea by providing additional
support to our regions so they can help the people in Crimea.
We will do it, of course.
Regarding the deployment of troops, the use of armed
forces, so far there is no need for it, but the possibility
remains.
Let me repeat that. This is from today. Vladimir Putin said:
Regarding the deployment of troops, the use of armed
forces, so far there is no need for it, but the possibility
remains.
This is a return to the old Russian Soviet doublespeak which was
absolute nonsense, but they said it anyway.
He goes on to say:
What is our biggest concern? We see the rampage of
reactionary forces, nationalist and anti-Semitic forces going
on in certain parts of Ukraine, including Kiev. . . . When we
see this, we understand what worries the citizens of Ukraine,
both Russian and Ukrainian, and the Russian-speaking
population in the eastern and southern regions of Ukraine. It
is this uncontrolled crime that worries them. Therefore, if
we see such uncontrolled crime spreading to the eastern
regions of the country--
We should pay careful attention to these words of Mr. Putin--
if we see such uncontrolled crime spreading to the eastern
regions of the country, and if the people ask us for help,
while we already have the official request from the
legitimate President, we retain the right to use all
available means to protect those people. We believe this
would be absolutely legitimate.
Then he goes on to say, in answer to a question:
Thus the tension in Crimea that was linked to the
possibility of using our Armed Forces simply died down and
there was no need to use them.
I repeat:
Thus the tension in Crimea that was linked to the
possibility of using our Armed Forces simply died down and
there was no need to use them. The only something we had to
do, and we did it, was to enhance the defense of our military
facilities because they were constantly receiving threats and
we were aware of the armed nationalists moving in.
Russia has well trained, well equipped now an additional 16,000 or
more, and Vladimir Putin was worried about enhancing the defense of his
military facilities because they were constantly receiving threats.
He goes on to say:
There is something I would like to stress, however.
Obviously, what I am going to say now is not within my
authority and we do not intend to interfere. However, we
firmly believe all citizens of Ukraine, I repeat, wherever
they live, should be given the same equal right to
participate in the life of their country and determining its
future.
My friends, we are seeing justification for intervention and serious
intervention in eastern Ukraine. So the article goes on with further
questions, and he goes on to take a shot at the United States saying:
Our partners, especially in the United States, always
clearly formulate their own geopolitical and state interests
and follow them with persistence. Then, using the principle
``You're either with us or against us'' they draw the whole
world in. And those who do not join in get ``beaten'' until
they do.
Then he goes on to say:
Our approach is different. We proceed from the conviction
that we always act legitimately. I have personally--
I say to my colleagues, I am not making this up. This is what
Vladimir Putin said--
I have always been an advocate of acting in compliance with
international law. I would like to stress yet again that if
we do make the decision, if I do decide to use the Armed
Forces, this will be a legitimate decision in full compliance
with both general norms of international law, since we have
the appeal of the legitimate President, and with our
commitments, which in this case coincide with our interest to
protect the people with whom we have close historical
cultural and economic ties. Protecting these people is in our
national interests. This is a humanitarian mission. We do not
intend to subjugate anyone or to dictate to anyone. However,
we cannot remain indifferent if we see they are being
persecuted, destroyed and humiliated.
Here is probably the most interesting part:
Question: Mr. President, a clarification, if I may. The
people who were blocking the Ukrainian Army units in Crimea
were wearing uniforms that strongly resembled the Russian
Army uniform. Were those Russian soldiers, Russian military?
Vladimir Putin: Why don't you take a look at the post-
Soviet states. There are many military uniforms there that
are similar. You can go to a store and buy any kind of
uniform.
Question: But were they Russian soldiers or not?
Vladimir Putin: Those were local self-defence units.
Question: How well trained are they? If we compare them to
the self-defence units in Kiev . . .
Vladimir Putin: My dear colleague, look how well trained
the people who operated in Kiev were. As we all know they
were trained at special bases in neighboring states: in
Lithuania, Poland and in Ukraine itself too. They were
trained by instructors for extended periods. They were
divided into dozens and hundreds, their actions were
coordinated, they had good communication systems. It was all
like clockwork. Did you see them in action? They looked very
professional, like special forces. Why do you think those in
Crimea should be any worse?
Question: In that case, can I specify: did we take part in
training Crimea self-defence forces?
Vladimir Putin: No, we did not.
This is the same guy the President of the United States pushed the
reset button for time and again. This is the same guy whom the
President says we can work with--Vladimir Putin.
Then my colleague and former Member of this body on Friday--on
Friday, as Putin's forces moved into Crimea, and it was very clear to
anyone the Russians were moving in--Secretary of State John F. Kerry
spoke Friday with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov. This is a
quote from Secretary Kerry.
We raised the issue of the airports, raised the issue of
armored vehicles, raised the issue of personnel in various
places. While we were told they are not engaging in any
violation of the sovereignty, and do not intend to, I
nevertheless made it clear that could be misinterpreted at
this moment and that there are enough tensions that it is
important for everybody to be extremely careful not to
inflame the situation and not to send the wrong messages.
I am not making that up. So after 5 years of believing that somehow
Vladimir Putin was anything but what he is, we are now paying the
piper. The chickens are coming home to roost.
Do we have a military option? No. But we do have a number of other
options.
I wish to read one other article that was in USA Today by Jonah
Goldberg entitled ``Obama In Denial on Russia.''
I will not go through a lot of it, about student Obama, but here is
some of the quote from the article:
In 1983, then-Columbia University student Obama penned a
lengthy article for the school magazine placing the blame for
U.S.-Soviet tensions largely on America's ``war mentality''
and the ``twisted logic'' of the Cold War. President Reagan's
defense buildup, according to Obama, contributed to the
``silent spread of militarism'' and reflected our ``distorted
national priorities'' rather than what should be our goal: a
``nuclear free world.''
That is what student Obama said. But the remarkable thing is 2 weeks
ago in response to tensions in Ukraine, the President explained that:
Our approach . . . is not to see (events in Ukraine) as
some Cold War chessboard in which we're in competition with
Russia.
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This is a horrible way to talk about the Cold War because it starts
from the premise that it all was just a game conducted between two
morally equivalent competitors.
Similar comments about Cold War rivalries and the like are
commonplace of late, especially during the Sochi Olympics, when NBC
commentators were desperate to portray the entire Soviet chapter as
nothing more than a pivotal experience.
America surely made mistakes during the near half-century twilight
struggle. The fact is there was a right side and a wrong side to that
conflict and we were on the right side of it. The Soviet Union, of
which Vladimir Putin was a part, murdered millions of its own people,
stifled freedom in nearly every forum, enslaved whole nations, and
actively tried to undermine democracy all around the world, including
in the United States.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator's time has expired.
Mr. McCAIN. I ask unanimous consent for 5 more minutes.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. McCAIN. President Putin, a former KGB agent, has said the
collapse of the ``evil empire'' was ``the greatest geopolitical
catastrophe of the 20th century.'' This alone should have been a clue
to this White House that misspelled reset buttons weren't going to cut
it. But they were too stuck in the past to see it.
I could go on and on, including the ridicule some of us were
subjected to when we pointed this out from time to time, including in
2008 when I said in a debate with then-candidate Obama: Watch Ukraine.
Watch Ukraine. Putin will not give up Ukraine.
We need to have an economic aid package immediately, and I am glad
our Secretary of State is over there with initial U.S. loan guarantees,
joining the EU, and a longer substitute package through the
International Monetary Fund. We have to stabilize the economy of
Ukraine which is near collapse. Financial sanctions, freezing assets,
visa bans, trade embargoes--all of those can be accomplished,
particularly expansion of the Magnitsky act, so people who are
responsible will not have bank accounts, they will not travel, they
will not ever get a visa. They need to pay a penalty for orchestrating
what is happening in Ukraine right now.
Obviously we should not go to the G-8 summit. He should be thrown out
of the G-8. It should now be the G-7. They obviously have to suspend
military-to-military engagements. We need to have a path--and a quick
one--for both Moldova and Georgia to move into NATO. Both countries are
occupied by Russian troops, Moldova in Transnistria and in Georgia at
Kajian South Abkhazia, and quite often Russians keep moving the fence
farther and farther into the sovereign territory of these countries. In
an attempt to appease Mr. Putin, we abandoned missile defense systems
in Poland and the Czech Republic. We need to reinstate those and move
forward as quickly as possible.
There are a number of things the most powerful Nation in the world
needs to do. I am not counting on our European friends. Already there
have been statements by Angela Merkel and the leaking of a memorandum
from the British Government. We may have to do a lot of these things by
ourselves, because they are dependent on Russia for a lot of their
energy supplies, and we have seen a significant recession in European
leadership over the last 10 to 20 years. But we need to act, and we
need to speak in favor of the people who are now being overtaken in
Crimea by Vladimir Putin's army and military. I worry.
In conclusion, I say it is time we wake up about Vladimir Putin. It
is time this administration gets real. It is also time for us to worry
about what Vladimir Putin will do in eastern Ukraine on the pretext
that somehow disorder and demonstrations might require Russian
presence.
My friends, if we allow Mr. Putin to assert his authority over these
areas because of Russian-speaking people, that message is not lost on
Poland where there is a Russian population, on Romania, Latvia,
Estonia, Lithuania, and Moldova. We are on the verge possibly of seeing
a move to reassert the old Russian empire, which is Mr. Putin's
lifelong ambition.
I have overstayed my time. I thank my colleague from Alabama.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Alabama.
Mr. SESSIONS. Madam President, I appreciate the opportunity to listen
to Senator McCain. I think facts have proven him right for many over
many years of warning this country about how we have to conduct
international relations in a realistic way.
I had the opportunity to be in Georgia and Ukraine about 3 years ago.
In Georgia, we went to South Ossetia where the Russians had moved in,
against European international law, and had set in. Last week or so, we
were informed by the Prime Minister of Georgia they were building
barbed wire fences along that border, digging in even deeper than they
had before.
In Ukraine, we met with some of the democratic dissidents who were
trying to hang on to democracy there. They had beaten Shevchenko, the
fabulous lady who helped lead the Orange Revolution. She was worried
about going to jail. I didn't think she would go to jail, but they put
her in jail and kept her in jail for years on what EU and NATO
officials have all said were bogus charges. They told us some of the
democratic activists were somewhat depressed because Putin, with his
intel background, was using the Russian intelligence services in
Ukraine to buy up media and buy up television to propagandize the
country. They were hurting, and they didn't know if they would be able
to successfully resist. It was such a delight for me to see this
basically nonviolent revolution in which the people stood up for their
country. Now we see Mr. Putin did not accept the sovereignty, and he is
going to try to utilize military force in a way which is stunning. I
have to say, Crimea is far larger and more strategically significant
than South Ossetia and Abkhazia, but it is the same actions.
I thank Senator McCain for his leadership.
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