[Congressional Record Volume 160, Number 6 (Friday, January 10, 2014)]
[House]
[Pages H150-H152]
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LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM
(Mr. HOYER asked and was given permission to address the House for 1
minute.)
Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, I yield to my friend, Mr. Cantor, for the
purpose of inquiring of the majority leader the schedule for the week
to come.
Mr. CANTOR. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Maryland, the
Democratic whip, for yielding.
Mr. Speaker, on Monday, the House will meet at noon for morning-hour
and 2 p.m. for legislative business. Votes will be postponed until 6:30
p.m. On Tuesday and Wednesday, the House will meet at 10 a.m. for
morning-hour and noon for legislative business. On Thursday, the House
will meet at 9 a.m. for legislative business. Last votes of the week
are expected no later than 3 p.m. On Friday, no votes are expected.
Mr. Speaker, the House will consider a few suspensions next week, a
complete list of which will be announced by the close of business
today. In addition, the House will consider two bills next week to fund
government operations.
As you know, Mr. Speaker, House and Senate appropriators are working
towards a bipartisan agreement on an appropriations package to fund the
government for the remainder of the fiscal year. I expect an agreement
to be reached soon. The House will consider this package next week.
Mr. Speaker, to facilitate this, we will need to pass a short-term CR
to allow the Senate time to process the bill. I expect to pass this
under suspension of the rules early next week.
Finally, I expect the House to consider H.R. 3362, the Exchange
Information Disclosure Act, sponsored by Representative Lee Terry. This
bill requires full transparency and accuracy from the administration on
data reported from the ObamaCare exchange.
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Mr. HOYER. I thank the gentleman for that information. I note that he
indicates that we probably will not be able to accomplish the omnibus
by the end of next week and, therefore, a CR may be required.
I know that all of us feel that that needs to be accomplished as
quickly as possible. I would point out to the gentleman in
conversations that he says it is going to be on suspension. I will
support it on suspension, urge my colleagues to support it on
suspension.
Can the gentleman tell me, however, how long that CR will go that
will affect us somewhat?
Mr. CANTOR. Mr. Speaker, I would say to the gentleman in response to
his question, the expected termination, if you will, expiration of the
CR will be Saturday, January 18. So giving a week really, Mr. Speaker,
for the Senate to act, because we will be acting next week in the
middle of the week. We hope that they will finish their business by
September--I mean January 18.
Mr. HOYER. I hope that was not a Freudian slip of our confidence in
the ability to get that done as quickly as we would like.
In any event, I think that is appropriate, and I am hopeful that we
can, in fact, accomplish that.
I want to tell the majority leader from my perspective that if we
don't get that done in the short term, then I would be very reluctant
to support continuing resolutions at the level which has now been
substituted for the agreement that was reached in the bipartisan budget
agreement.
There are substantial differences, as you know, in the 302(a)
allocation, the allocation of discretionary spending, one at $1.012
trillion and one at $986 billion, so that there is a substantial
discrepancy between those figures.
We reached agreement on the higher number. The Senate came down about
45, the House went up about 45 and reached a compromise. I think
America was pleased that we reached a compromise. I would want to be on
the
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record as saying that if we went to longer term CRs, I would want to
have some serious discussions about the level of those CRs in terms of
the operations of government.
The other issue I wanted to ask the gentleman about, as you know, we
had a previous question yesterday. That previous question, had it been
defeated, would have allowed the House to consider the extension of
unemployment insurance for 3 months, consistent with what the Senate
had proposed. Now, the Senate has not reached agreement on this issue,
but unfortunately that has not been considered on the floor this week.
As the gentleman knows, 72,000 people a week are losing their
unemployment insurance. That adds to 1.3 million that have already lost
their own insurance on December 28.
I know it is not listed on your sheet, nor did you mention it in your
comments on the floor. Can the gentleman tell me whether there is any
prospect of the unemployment insurance bill coming to this floor? Mr.
Tierney has a bill that he has introduced that I think probably enjoys,
at this point in time, well over 150 Democrats, and I think all
Democrats will sign on to it. I would hope that we together, as we did
when President Bush was President, and we did it five times, I would
hope that we could extend unemployment for those people who were
relying on it to put food on their tables.
I yield to my friend.
Mr. CANTOR. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman and just for the
record make clear that the bill, or the measure, that the gentleman is
speaking to is a bill that would extend beyond the more than 6 months
that unemployment benefits insurance is available now.
As the gentleman knows, we have been trying to focus this Congress on
getting back to a more optimistic view of what the economy can do. It
is about jobs; it is about growth.
Our focus is about wanting people to get a job. It is on employment,
not unemployment. So I would say to the gentleman, if we could work
together in trying to reject what unfortunately is seeming to become
the new norm for many, instead, let's talk about the things that we do,
maybe skills training.
Those who are chronically unemployed frankly could find a job if they
had the skills necessary to do so. We would love to be able to work
with the gentleman in a bipartisan fashion to perhaps do those kinds of
things. Unfortunately, this Congress, this House has passed the SKILLS
Act, and there was no bipartisan support for that.
We need to be focused on growing the economy, getting people back to
work--and know that there is a lot of pain out there right now. The
best response to the pain, in someone looking for some hope for the
future, is a job.
And so I would respond to the gentleman, we are watching what the
Senate is doing, and I think the reports today indicate the Senate is
going to have some difficulty in passing what was thought to have been
an easy thing to pass a few days ago. So I would ask the gentleman to
join us in looking towards a more optimistic future for this country
and economy, focusing on employment and those who have been chronically
out of work.
Mr. HOYER. I thank the gentleman for his comments.
First, I would say, there is nothing to disagree with in what the
gentleman has said. We do want to focus on jobs. We do want to focus on
creating jobs. We do want to focus on growing the economy. The
gentleman is absolutely correct. As a matter of fact, as the gentleman
knows, he and I have discussed the agenda that Democrats have been
talking about for 2\1/2\ years, and it is called Make It In America.
That Make It In America agenda focuses on manufacturing and growing
opportunities in this country for good jobs for skilled workers and
unskilled workers, frankly, but mainly skilled workers in the new
manufacturing environment in which we find ourselves. That ought to be
our long-term objective.
I would say very candidly, Mr. Speaker, we ought not in the short
term forget those who have been deeply damaged by the economic
dislocation that has occurred in our society, in our country, and
frankly globally over the past 5 years, or actually starting in
December of '07. We ought not to forget those people, because while a
future investment is very interesting to them, and I am sure important
to them, their critical interest is in putting food on their table
today, tomorrow, and the next day. I think the richest country on the
face of the Earth could do both, I tell the gentleman. And I think that
we ought to do both, and we have done both in the past.
We had some job figures that were out today, apparently 87,000 jobs
in the private sector. That's not enough. We lost 13,000 in the public
sector apparently for a net of 74,000 appreciation of jobs. That's not
nearly enough. The gentleman would agree, I know, to solve the problem
that we have.
The gentleman talked about the SKILLS Act. That bill would freeze the
Workforce Investment Act program funding for fiscal years 2014 to 2020.
We would make no more investment in doing what the gentleman has said
we want to do. It has already been cut by half since 2001 and would
also consolidate or eliminate 35 programs, most of them the Workforce
Incentive Act programs, into State block grants that they could spend
on things of their choice.
I am not saying that some States wouldn't make good choices. I think
they would. Other States would make different choices, and we may or
may not agree with those. But I certainly tell the gentleman, and he
and I have had the opportunity talking together, the Make It In America
agenda, or a jobs agenda, or whatever that agenda is called, is
certainly something we ought to pursue.
Let me transition, if I might, Mr. Leader, to talk about another
issue which analysis of almost every economist and the Congressional
Budget Office say will help grow the economy, and that is comprehensive
immigration reform. We continue to believe that that is one of the most
important issues that this Congress in this second session of the
Congress ought to deal with. Can the gentleman indicate whether there
is any possibility of either, as I said in weeks past, bringing the
four bills that came out of the Judiciary Committee or the border
security bill that came out of the Homeland Security Committee, I might
say, unanimously? None of those five bills have been brought to the
floor.
The Speaker said just the other day, I am trying to find some way to
get this thing done. ``Thing'' being immigration reform. He said, It
is, as you know, not easy. Not going to be an easy path forward, but I
made it clear since the day after the election, it is time to get this
done.
The Speaker said that November 13, 2013, a couple months ago. We are
very, very hopeful that the Speaker will pursue that, the House will
pursue that, and the majority leader will put on the floor legislation
on which we can act. We may or may not agree with the legislation
brought to the floor, but we think it needs to be given attention,
consistent with Speaker Boehner's observation, and CBO's assertion,
that that would have a substantially positive effect on growing the
economy and creating jobs.
I yield to my friend.
Mr. CANTOR. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding.
If I could just revisit the issue of the SKILLS Act. The gentleman
speaks to the amount of money called for in the bill; and I would say
to the gentleman the thrust behind the SKILLS Act was to try and
refocus the program on actual effectiveness and results. I think the
gentleman will agree that the job picture right now is not as bright as
it should be.
As I indicated earlier, a lot of the folks who are trying to access
skills training are unable to do so. There is evidence that existing
programs are not results oriented like we would like them to be. And
the purpose behind that bill is to realign the focus of the skills and
training programs across the country with job availability and openings
in the different regions of the country.
So rather than insisting on spending more money on a one-size-fits-
all Washington approach, we provided flexibility for the regions so it
could be tailored. The skills training programs could be tailored to
the job openings in these specific regions of the country. And they are
different. They are different in my region of the country than they are
in the Pacific Northwest.
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They are different in the Midwest than they are in the Northeast. We
know that there is diversity in this country, and we should allow for
those differences and the improvement reforms necessary to make it so
that we are not accepting the status quo. I would ask the gentleman to
take a look at that again as something that perhaps we can work on
together.
I would also say, again, the jobs numbers, the gentleman is
completely correct that these job numbers, this latest report this
morning reflects the lowest number of jobs added since January of 2011.
That doesn't speak well about the track record of what is going on
here. So let's focus on jobs together.
As for the question about immigration, Mr. Speaker, I think the
gentleman is right. Immigration reform could be an economic boon to
this country. We have got to do it right; and along those lines, the
Speaker has said that we are going to look for the release of a list of
principles of our position in the majority here in the House of what we
believe is an appropriate path forward for immigration reform.
There are plenty of things that we can agree on. As the gentleman
knows, I have been a strong proponent of the KIDS Act that I am working
with the chairman of the committee on, because I think all of us can
agree that we shouldn't hold kids liable for the misdeeds or illegal
acts of their parents. This country has never been about that. There
are plenty of things like that, strong border security, and making sure
that that occurs first so we don't see a continuing problem of illegal
immigration.
I think there are plenty of areas for agreement. Hopefully, Mr.
Speaker, we can see after the release of a set of principles of our
side that there can be some productive discussions, bipartisan with the
White House, so that it is not ``my way or the highway,'' and then we
can see a proper way forward.
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Mr. HOYER. I thank the leader for his comments.
Certainly we are not proponents of ``my way or the highway,'' and I
am glad, I do believe, that hopefully the majority leader is not
either.
Briefly, on the SKILLS Act, we have legislation, of course, on our
side of the aisle, a number of pieces of legislation which deal with
training, job skills, and we are certainly prepared to work on those.
Unfortunately, as the gentleman knows, that bill passed out in a
partisan way. There were two Democrats who voted for it. But I am
certainly willing to work with the gentleman, and I think our side of
the aisle is willing to work with the gentleman to invest and to give
flexibility so that we can recognize, obviously, that what may be
needed in my district or the gentleman from Virginia's district is
different from a district in Washington State or California or Texas or
Florida or Maine. So I want to assure the gentleman that we are
prepared to work on that.
Next, can I ask you when those principles that you talked about might
be expected, because I think that would be a very positive step
forward. But, in my view, if we wait long, comprehensive immigration
reform will not get accomplished, as I believe it should be, in the
next few months.
I yield to the gentleman.
Mr. CANTOR. I would say to the gentleman, Mr. Speaker, that there is
an expectation that the list of principles will be released in the near
future, and that is about as definite as I can be. But again, the sense
is that there is common agreement on certain issues.
I think that, unfortunately, thus far, given the track record around
this town, there is very little room for discussion, negotiations, and
hopefully this can be different. But thus far, Mr. Speaker, all I can
say is that we are looking for the release of those principles in the
near future.
Mr. HOYER. I thank the gentleman.
And in conclusion, let me simply say, Mr. Leader, that we welcome
moving ahead on the omnibus. We think that is very critical. We hope
that we can address the unemployment insurance issue, not as a
substitute for focusing on growing jobs and growing the economy, which
is essential, but in recognition that some 1.3 million people--growing
by 72,000 people a week--are in deep distress, and we want to help
them. We think that is the right thing to do. And we think America can
do both, grow the economy and help those who have been hurt by the
decrease in the availability of jobs available.
Lastly, I might say, that we also hope that we can get to immigration
reform as quickly as possible, and we look forward to seeing those
principles.
I yield back the balance of my time.
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