Congressional Record, Volume 159 Issue 141 (Thursday, October 10, 2013)

[Congressional Record Volume 159, Number 141 (Thursday, October 10, 2013)]
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PASS THE FARM BILL

The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under the Speaker's announced policy of
January 3, 2013, the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Rodney Davis) is
recognized for the remainder of the hour as the designee of the
majority leader.
Mr. RODNEY DAVIS of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, thank you, and thank you
to my colleagues who have joined me here today to talk about an
important piece of legislation that seemingly has gone by the wayside,
like many, many other important issues, because of the dysfunction of
Washington right now: a farm bill.
Many here in America don't realize that our current farm bill has
expired. But we have an opportunity to pass a food, nutrition, and jobs
bill that Congress is supposed to authorize every 5 years. But since it
expired on September 30, the good news, though, is that there is still
an opportunity to get this 5-year farm bill passed; and when we do, we
are going to be able to give our farmers and producers the tools they
need to do what they do best. We can do this before next planting
season.
Why do we need a farm bill? To promote and grow our economy, to
provide certainty to our farmers and producers, and to give them the
tools they need to succeed.
For example, crop insurance. Mr. Speaker, crop insurance is working.
I even had the opportunity to talk to Secretary Vilsack in one of the
hearings on our Ag Committee, and he agreed with me that crop insurance
is working. This farm bill strengthens crop insurance, which
strengthens our economy, because it strengthens agriculture.
Ag is one of the bright spots in our Nation's economy right now, Mr.
Speaker. That should not be forgotten, which is why it is crucial that
we pass this farm bill.
We have other policies within that bill that are very crucial to my
district and many districts throughout this Nation: conservation, ag
research, and trade.
As we stand on the floor today, many of the farmers I represent are
out in the field. Mr. Speaker, it is harvest time. That is why we are
down here today: to let our producers know we have not forgotten and
that we are still fighting for that 5-year farm bill.
Farmers used to just have to worry about the uncertainty of the
weather. Now, Mr. Speaker, they have to worry about the uncertainty of
Washington. That is unfortunate, but it is something that we can
correct when we work together.
Mr. Speaker, I came here to govern. I sought a seat on the Ag
Committee because I knew we would have an opportunity to leave our mark
on this jobs legislation. We want to get this job done so that our
farmers can continue to get their job done.
I appreciate the many colleagues who have already spoken before me
and the rest who are down here today for this

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farm bill Special Order, as well as many others who have helped move
the farm bill forward. And before recognizing my colleagues so that
they may share with those watching why we must advance a new farm bill,
I want to talk about why the farm bill is important to the district
that I represent.
In central and southwestern Illinois, agriculture is key to our local
economy. It is 14 counties in central and southwestern Illinois that I
am proud to serve here in Congress on their behalf, and it is home to
some of the most productive and costly farmland in America.
It is also home to many in the agribusiness sector: ADM, the
University of Illinois. My district is home to the largest gathering of
ag producers and agricultural-related products in the country.
This is the Farm Progress Show that was just completed in Decatur,
Illinois, in July, a whopping success. Sloan Implement is in the 13th
District of Illinois. GSI, another global leader, one of the largest
employers in my district, and it happens to be the largest employer in
my home county of Christian County. Kraft Foods in Champaign, Illinois.
The National Corn-to-Ethanol Research Center in Edwardsville, at
Southern Illinois University at Edwardsville, also plays a crucial role
for jobs, innovation, and energy independence in our area. These are
just some of the reasons that Congress needs to keep working together
to advance a 5-year farm bill.
And let's not forget, again, what a bright spot agriculture has been
on our Nation's economy. Every $1 billion in ag exports supports nearly
8,000 American jobs. Earlier this year, the USDA, they projected $139.5
billion in ag exports. That is more than 1.1 million jobs supported by
American agriculture.
Mr. Speaker, I yield as much time as he may consume to the gentleman
from the great State of Michigan (Mr. Benishek), my good friend and my
colleague.
Mr. BENISHEK. I thank my colleague from Illinois for allowing me to
speak here today, and I want to thank you for hosting this Special
Order hour in general.
Mr. Speaker, although we speak today at a time when Members are very
busy working to resolve the government shutdown, it is critical to
remember that, while the government may have stopped, the work of our
farmers certainly has not. Farmers in each of our districts, whether
they are busy picking apples or harvesting fields of corn, are busy at
this time of the year; there is no doubt about it. Autumn is the time
that farmers in our districts normally look forward to. That is when
they have the chance to reap the bounty of the great work that they
have done this past year planting and tending to the land.
Our farmers, producers, and agribusiness owners deserve better. They
have put in the hard work. They are feeding not only Michigan's
families, but America's families and much of the world. We owe them
certainty. We owe them a farm bill.
As the only Member from Michigan on the Agriculture Committee, I
regularly speak with farmers, not only from my district, but from
around the State. Over the last year, they have continually expressed
the need for certainty. While they have different ideas on some
specific provisions of the overall farm bill, they all agree that we
need to get this done.
Mr. Speaker, I have worked hard with my colleagues to move the farm
bill forward. I have worked with many local stakeholders in Michigan to
ensure that their concerns are addressed in the bill. Now is the time
to move forward to a conference.
This afternoon, I come to the floor to say, simply, let's get this
done. Let's go to conference, work out our differences, and get a farm
bill done. We owe it to our farmers. We owe it to the hardworking
families around the country that rely on the food that our farmers
produce.
Again, Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank the farmers of northern
Michigan for the outstanding work that they have done this season. Now
let's get this farm bill done.
Mr. RODNEY DAVIS of Illinois. Thank you to my colleague, Mr.
Benishek.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for again allowing us this opportunity to
talk about how important ag is going to be in our economy.
Let's talk about how important this farm bill is to get passed and
how we are not that far apart when it comes to the differences in the
funding levels with the Senate bill that should be conferenced. And let
us not also forget--let us not forget that agriculture isn't just
important to the Midwest. It is also important to States like Michigan,
where my colleague who just spoke was from. We have heard from
individuals from California, from Georgia, from Montana. Ag is a
nationwide issue, and we have seen nationwide success in agriculture.

Mr. Speaker, I yield as much time as he may consume to the gentleman
from Kansas (Mr. Yoder), my good friend and colleague.
Mr. YODER. I appreciate my friend from Illinois for putting together
this hour for us to be able to come down and have a conversation about
how we protect the American farmer.
For months and months now, we have been having a debate in the United
States House and Senate about how we can put together legislation that
will ensure that the men and women who bring in the crops, who tend to
the livestock, who create the food source for our Nation and the world
have certain policies that are predictable and that encourage farming
as a way of life to continue in the United States.
So I join my colleagues here, those from down in southern Illinois
to--we just heard from my colleague, Dan Benishek from Michigan, who
believes passionately in agriculture and protecting farmers. We are
here together today united, standing on behalf of the farmers in our
country.
So I call on my colleagues to help us get a farm bill done. Farmers
have been waiting a long time for Congress to work together to find a
solution. We are obviously divided on a lot of things, but we ought to
be united on helping protect the American farmer and our American food
supply.
In Kansas, farming is not just a means to make money, and certainly,
it is a significant part of the Kansas economy. Along with several
other parts, farming and agriculture is a key component of the Kansas
economy. But it is also a way for Kansans and Americans to put food on
the table for the world. Kansas is the number one wheat producer in the
country, wheat that ends up feeding hungry Kansans, hungry Americans in
all 50 States, and on most continents. They put in long, hard hours to
bring in millions of bushels of grain, grain that will end up on the
tables of the entire Nation and the entire world.
But it is also a way of life. Now farmers at home right now--I just
spoke with a farmer earlier today. Farmers are bringing in--they are
harvesting their soybeans. Some are still picking corn.
For generations, people have come to States like Kansas and Illinois
and California and Michigan, and they have come to build a way of life.
They have taken, in the case of Kansas, a prairie--it was undeveloped--
and they came out there, and they brought their families and they took
risk, much risk to carve a lifestyle out of the prairie. And through
that hard work, through that determination, through that sweat off
their brow, they tamed the wilderness and, in the process, they helped
build the greatest nation the world has ever seen. And along the way,
they asked for little in return. They built a nation with great bedrock
values, good schools, good communities. It was all centered around the
small family farmer.
So that is one of the things we are down here to protect and to talk
about is continuing that American tradition of the small family farmer.
And so they have worked hard. They work long days, sunup to sundown.
Sometimes farmers will work through the night, 24-hour shifts even, to
bring in the crops when the time has come.
I grew up on a farm myself. I remember going out, my dad going out in
the middle of the winter and bringing a round bale to our cattle and
ensuring that the livestock could have feed. And that meat that they
produced, we produced and farmers produce all across the country, that
ends up taking care of Americans everywhere.
So now those farmers, they are counting on us. When they plant their
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they need certainty. It is time to move past short-term bills. It is
time to move past short-term promises. We need to move towards long-
term policies that will create stability, that will allow farmers to
plant, allow farmers to go back to doing what they do best: growing
food, feeding a hungry Nation.
This fall, Kansas farmers are hard at work bringing in the autumn
harvest, and they are planting the 2014 crop. They have patiently
waited for Congress to act on a farm bill. Now is the time to move
forward.
The farm bill provides farmers with crucial safety net programs that
allow them to protect their operations from uncertainty and the sudden
downturns that can occur when growing crops and raising livestock.
These programs are essential in providing farmers with the certainty
they need to be successful.
So as we have this larger debate about how to solve the debt crisis,
I think farmers have been admirable in this debate. Farmers came
forward and said, Look, you know, we receive direct payments. We know
that is a burden on the Treasury. We know there are a lot of burdens on
the Treasury. We hope that we can all pitch in to help solve our
national debt crisis. We are going to voluntarily, we are going to give
those things up.
And every other group that comes before Washington, most groups give
up nothing. They want more. In fact, in Washington, when you don't get
more than you got last year, it is a cut.
Farmers said, We are willing to take a cut. We are willing to take
billions of dollars of cuts because we want to do our part to ensure
that we are helping resolve the national debt crisis.

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So they were first in line to give up support, and some of that
support was very crucial to farms and has been crucial to farmers to
keep them from ending up in bankruptcy or farms from going under. They
are giving that up. No more direct payments. Those are the kinds of
reforms we need to do.
Now, what they have asked for in return is a little protection of
risk. The expense today to put out a field of crops like corn,
soybeans, milo, or wheat, in Kansas, creates a tremendous amount of
risk--risk that banks won't cover unless there is some sort of
protection in the event of a flood, hailstorm, or a drought, and
sometimes all of the above. You can wipe out a single crop overnight.
These farmers have invested their entire livelihood. They don't have
a 401(k). They don't have a pension. They don't have some corporate
plan to protect their retirement. Their future is in the crop they're
laying out in that field, and the proceeds from that crop are going to
go to investing in the next crop. And so if that crop goes under and
there is no crop insurance, there is no protection for those farmers,
then those farmers go under, they go bankrupt, and that way of life
ends.
And so my heart goes out to those farmers that that may happen to,
but it is a larger issue than just the farmers. Without crop insurance,
without that protection, those farmers lose those farms and that means
we don't have a food supply that we can count on. That means that the
world doesn't have the food that they need to feed the hungry. I know
most people get food from the grocery store these days, but it comes
from the fields of Kansas and Illinois and places in between.
So it is my hope that Democrats, Republicans, House, Senate, and the
President will work together in the coming days to put a farm bill on
the floor that we can all get behind that can go to the President's
desk and receive his signature. We've got a lot of divisions, but we
would be united today--all of us--in protection, in fighting for the
American farmer.
Mr. RODNEY DAVIS of Illinois. My colleague, Mr. Yoder from Kansas,
brought up so many great points of why it is crucial to have this
debate here on the floor of the House.
It seems as though farmers get a bad rap. There is a lot of talk on
this floor about growing our economy; and, frankly, ag has been a
bright spot in our economy, Mr. Speaker. It is just like Washington.
Because of inaction of--a lot of times, Republicans and Democrats--we
are not able to continue to allow them to grow their portion of the
economy. It just seems like the right hand works against the left
sometimes here in Washington. I just want to see us put some good
Midwestern common sense that many of us learned right on the family
farms in the Midwest, right here to work and into action in Washington,
D.C.
Speaking of common sense, I want to introduce my good friend, my
colleague from the great State of Pennsylvania (Mr. Thompson).
Mr. THOMPSON of Pennsylvania. I thank the gentleman. I couldn't agree
more. I would like to see a little farm-country sense brought to
Washington. I think if that were leading the charge on a lot of fronts,
we could resolve some of these issues we have been facing pretty
quickly.
I am real proud, Mr. Speaker, to be here to talk about agriculture.
When I was first elected in 2008, sworn in in 2009, one of my first
picks that I asked for on committee assignments was Agriculture. Today,
I'm proud to serve as chairman of the Subcommittee for Conservation,
Energy, and Forestry on the Agriculture Committee.
I am proud to be from the Keystone State. I had a number of
colleagues at that point in 2009 ask me why would I ever be on
Agriculture when I am from Pennsylvania. The fact is, it is our number
one industry in Pennsylvania. We have many commodities. We are one of
the top providers and producers for the United States--and sometimes
other parts of the world--in terms of our commodities that we raise and
we grow. We can't speak enough about the importance of this farm bill.
There are a lot of reasons why we all, every colleague in this
Chamber, should be supporting the farm bill. I have to say that there
are fewer than, I believe, 100 of our congressional districts, out of
435, where we actually grow and raise the food to feed this Nation and
much of the world. But the fact is every district has Americans that
shake hands with a farmer at least three times a day every time they
pick up a fork.
And so one of the principles that guides me, Mr. Speaker, in terms of
my decisionmaking on any issue, I call it principle-based leadership. I
always start and try to define what my principles are first. By the
way, we have been working on this for 4\1/2\ years, actually. I
remember having hearings. I was in the minority my first 2 years, and
we had hearings. The first hearing was in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania,
specifically on the dairy title.
But the principles that have guided me since day one here in terms of
agriculture is that America should always be the place where we have
the most affordable, highest quality, and safest food supply anywhere
in the world. So every decision I have made in supporting the
development, the writing, and actually the passing of this farm bill
has been to honor those three principles.
In addition to that, my good friend from Michigan talked about the
importance of food security, and I agree with that. It's the biggest
threat to our national security. And there are a lot of them out there,
Mr. Speaker. I have got two kids that just got back from Afghanistan. I
understand terrorist threats and threats to our financial situation,
but the most imminent threat to our national security would be at
whatever point we would begin to rely on another country for our food
supply. This farm bill is the single most important piece of Federal
legislation to make sure America has the most affordable, highest
quality, and safest food supply.
There are a lot of things that this bill does. It repeals and
consolidates more than 100 programs. This is a great example for the
rest of government. This is exactly step one on how we begin to reduce
our spending appropriately--looking at things that either don't work,
things that are duplicative, things that are just not fulfilling the
purpose for which it was designed.
It eliminates direct payments, which farmers receive regardless of
market conditions.
I am not sure I would have supported past farm bills, to tell you the
truth, that were passed before I came here; but I support this one
because the reforms we have brought to the agriculture side and the
nutrition side are very good. They are very good for the sustainability
of our food supply and programs such as our SNAP program.
It streamlines and reforms commodity policy. We are also giving
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risk. It includes the first reforms to the Supplemental Nutrition
Assistance Program since the Welfare Reform Act of 1996.
Why is that important? Because the reforms we put in place, it
preserves the future integrity of the food stamp program so that those
in the future who need those programs, those men, women, and children
who find themselves in poverty circumstances where they need that
assistance, they will get it, if we protect the integrity of that
program. It is only through these reforms that we are putting into
place that we offer those protections so we will be assured that the
food stamp program continues into the future to meet the needs of those
who need.

It consolidates 23 conservation programs into 13, improves program
delivery to producers, and saves more than $6 billion. That's an area
of the farm title that I chair. The subcommittee has jurisdiction on
conservation.
There are at least four reasons I can think of why that move is
extremely important. Number one is cost. This country is facing
significant debt, and so we have to be conscious and careful with our
spending. We knew that the farm bill--the pie itself--would be smaller.
So I think that is just one of the realities.
Second is the need. We are a country that feeds not just 311 million
Americans, but we are feeding a lot of the rest of the world. And to
allow land to sit idle under the context of some government-funded
conservation program is just wrong. We don't want people to go hungry,
and so putting more land that is appropriate back into productivity is
a very appropriate thing to do; and we do that with this farm bill.
Third is effectiveness. The fact is that under the existing
conservation programs, before the reforms we proposed, we have had
perfectly sound, tillable, very productive land sitting idle and
sitting fallow and receiving some type of government support under a
conservation program to do that.
I have met young individuals I am very impressed with that want to go
into farming that have never been in farming before. Some have been in
farming, but they can't afford to go out and purchase acreage; and so
they have to rent acreage. And they are competing under the existing
conservation programs with the government; and in competing with the
government, they can't do that. They just can't pay that.
All the parts of this farm bill have been well thought out and well
prepared. I am very appreciative of the work that has been done on the
part of land grant universities, the fact that we are strengthening the
role of science and technology when it comes to agriculture. A lot of
people talk about STEM--science, technology, engineering, and
mathematics. I like to talk about how agriculture is all about science
and technology.
And I shout out to my own alma mater, Penn State University, which is
a land grant university. Those universities help us advance that
science and innovation and that technology.
I will finally talk briefly about we have probably one of the best
forestry titles that we have ever had in this farm bill in maybe a
hundred years. We've got great things in there in terms of making sure
that timber is recognized and eligible for that biopreferred labeling.
Today, of all things, the original renewable resource of wood has
never been eligible. You could buy a box of bamboo flooring--we don't
grow bamboo in this country--and it has got a USDA stamp of approval,
biopreferred. But if you buy a box of good hardwood cherry from the
Pennsylvania Fifth Congressional District, it is not eligible. That
changes in this farm bill that we passed out of the House and we are
going to go to conference with the Senate on.
The categorical exclusion allows the Forest Service not to have to
waste money during these NEPA analyses every time they do trail
maintenance or clear power lines or just routine things that take money
away from actively managing a forest in a healthy way.
Finally, the forest access road was a great amendment which basically
reinforces that our forests are non-point sources of pollution. That
goes a long way in terms of allowing our forests to be managed under
State-adopted best practices.
And so I want to thank the gentleman for coordinating this Special
Order on a subject that every American should be fully in tune to
because of how important it is to have affordable, high-quality, and
safe food. That is what our farm bill does.
Mr. RODNEY DAVIS of Illinois. Thank you to my good friend, the
gentleman from Pennsylvania.
Mr. Speaker, I do want to address something that my colleague from
Pennsylvania (Mr. Thompson) brought up. He talked about research.
Research in agriculture is crucial to our ability here in America to
continue to feed the world. We feed the world from America's farms, and
it is under-appreciated and taken for granted.
Part of this farm bill is a research title, where the Agricultural
and Food Research Initiative through the National Institute for Food
and Agriculture was reauthorized.
Other ways we strengthen and promoted ag research in this bill are
doing things like providing new research funding for specialty crops,
beginning farmers, and organic agriculture. We have improved
accountability and transparency of the ag research programs, and we
have harmonized policies under the various competitive grants programs
to improve program efficiency and reduce wasteful spending.
Many of my colleagues are talking about ag leading the way in
reducing spending here in Washington. Our farmers need to be
congratulated for that.
The University of Illinois, in my district--another land grant
institution--uses many of these public research programs. Our students
are being trained on how to make our food supply safer and better; and
through AFRI, the University of Illinois has conducted cutting-edge
research aimed at improving food security, achieving more efficient
crop production, and promoting animal health through livestock genome
sequencing.
Let us not forget, Mr. Speaker, the Southern Illinois University
Corn-to-Ethanol Research Center. This is an example of a public-private
partnership that is working, where public funds were used in its
initial construction; but private entities are doing cutting-edge
research to make our Nation's fuel supply cheaper and make our Nation's
security better.
With that, Mr. Speaker, I yield to my friend and colleague from the
great State of Indiana (Mr. Messer).
Mr. MESSER. I want to thank my colleague and friend from Illinois,
Congressman Davis, for his incredible leadership on this issue. I know
of nobody in Congress who is working harder for the American family
farmer than Congressman Davis. This Special Order today is just one
more example of your leadership.
Farming is hard work, and it is vital to Indiana. Ag industries
contribute almost $38 billion a year to the Hoosier economy, supporting
nearly 190,000 jobs. The farmers who provide these jobs work from dawn
until way past dusk and face great risks when withering droughts or
excess rains threaten to wreck their crops.
Despite these challenges, Hoosier farmers manage to overcome
adversity, succeed in their businesses, and feed the world. Too often,
their work is made even harder because of uncertainties and
inefficiencies in Federal farm policy.

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The problems with Federal farm laws are many:
Price supports inflate the prices of some consumer goods; payments
are made to people not actually farming; outdated and duplicative
programs waste money that could be put to better use; rules regarding
disaster assistance are too complicated; and they fail to provide
enough certainty about whether and what return farmers will receive
when they reinvest any profits in their family business.
Many are surprised that the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance
Program, commonly called ``food stamps,'' is administered by the
Department of Agriculture, the USDA. Most agree the program is not well
managed. It pays too many people who should not be eligible for help,
diverting help from those who really need the assistance. There aren't
enough incentives to encourage people to find work, and there is too
much waste, fraud, and abuse.

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That's why we need a farm bill.
The farm bill which passed the House is not perfect, but it would
save $40 billion over the next decade, in part, by repealing or
consolidating more than 100 programs that don't work, could work
better, or are duplicative in purpose. The bill would stop the nonsense
policy of paying people not to farm. Instead, it would give farmers
greater flexibility to utilize federally backed crop insurance to
manage risk. It also would require food stamp recipients to work more,
get drug tested, and become self-sufficient.
American icon Paul Harvey once said:

And, on the eighth day, God looked down on his planned
paradise and said, ``I need a caretaker,'' and so God made
the farmer.

Others have spoken about how important it is that we stand up and be
a champion for those who farm. A defeat of the farm bill maintains the
status quo. We need a conference, and we need a farm bill. A defeat
would hurt farmers and taxpayers, but both need the certainty of
knowing that farm and nutrition assistance programs work as they should
so scarce taxpayer resources aren't wasted on food stamp fraud or on
programs that just don't work.
We need commonsense farm reform policy to prevent waste and to make
sure the next generation of farmers gets its chance to run the family
farm.
Mr. RODNEY DAVIS of Illinois. Thank you to my good friend and
colleague, Congressman Luke Messer, a true leader on so many issues
here in Congress and for the Midwest. Thank you for being here today to
talk about how important agriculture is to our economy.
I know much has been brought up about crop insurance. Some who don't
represent agricultural districts think crop insurance is a program that
is wasteful, that it is welfare for farmers. Let me remind everyone,
Mr. Speaker, that before we had the crop insurance program, farmers
didn't have to have skin in the game. They have to pay premiums just
like we have to do for life insurance, auto insurance and other types
of insurance. This is what makes America work. This is why crop
insurance is working.
Before this program, we would have supplemental, ad hoc disaster
assistance, and Members of Congress who served before many of us would
come to this floor and pass bills to fund disaster assistance. Let me
remind you, Mr. Speaker, that those weren't budgeted. At a time when
decisions were made to basically put the financial future of our
country in jeopardy decades before now, they were still passing
disaster assistance bills that cost taxpayers billions. Crop insurance
changed that. Farmers have skin in the game. They pay their premiums,
and it stops us--it stops Congress right now--from spending beyond its
means.
It has been said before that this farm bill is an example of how
Washington begins to work once again. We are looking toward our
financial future, and we are looking to balance our budget through
bills like this farm bill. We are going to begin to put a down payment
on the unsustainable $17 trillion of debt that your kids, Mr. Speaker,
and my kids shouldn't have to pay.
With that, I yield to my friend from my birthplace State, the great
State of Iowa. He is my good friend and colleague and a leader in ag
policy, Mr. King.
Mr. KING of Iowa. I thank the gentleman from Illinois for organizing
this Special Order here today and for committing one hour of floor time
to the discussion of the farm bill and the need to get one passed.
Mr. Speaker, we don't get very many debates on agriculture here in
the House of Representatives, and fewer and fewer people actually
represent agriculture districts. There has been not so much a migration
of people from the farms, although that has happened, but a
concentration of people in the cities, and they lose track of where
their food comes from and what it takes to produce that food.
So we are here at this point, and I want to start off with the
remarks of the gentleman from Illinois with regard to crop insurance. I
am going to pull these numbers from memory, and anyone can go back and
check them, but they're going to be conceptually accurate and, perhaps,
even precisely right.
If my memory serves me, back during some of those years when it
couldn't rain--and that existed back in the eighties--it seems to me
that, in 1988, we had 13 percent of the producers who actually had crop
insurance. Since that time--from that time forward until this modern
era--there were disaster payments after disaster payments. For any
place that had a drought, for any place that had a flood, there was a
discussion in Congress, and sometimes those disaster areas got rolled
up together. Let's take a disaster out West and add that to a disaster
in the Midwest and add that to a disaster in the South, and there might
be a flood and two droughts packaged together with a disaster payment
to bail people out.
I remember, when I first came here in 2003, there was a drought out
West in Nebraska. And was there going to be disaster money? We looked
at that, and we looked at aerial photos. Gee, it looked like here were
these really beautiful, green circles from the air, and they were going
to be in areas that got disaster payments. You all know what those are
if you come from farm country. Those were the pivot irrigation systems.
You're not going to have a drought if your irrigation system is
running, but in the corners where they didn't have the boom to lay down
and irrigate the corners, they were burned out. They said, Gee, we
ought to get a disaster for the corner of our 160--the four corners of
it--even though we've got a good crop, 200 bushels of corn, underneath
the pivot system.
Those kinds of things were discussed here in this Congress, and I
want to thank the Representative from Nebraska, Tom Osborne, who also
was a pretty good football coach, for saying, This isn't right, and
let's get that part correct.
We don't have those discussions anymore because, back in '88, there
was the 13 percent who had crop insurance. It's back up to the point
now where, I believe, the number is 88 percent due. We suffered through
the worst flood in my lifetime in 2011 when the Missouri River ran hill
to hill from mid-June until mid-September and flooded out, according to
the Secretary of Agriculture, 500,000 acres. 500,000 acres were under
water. Of course, all of that was a complete wipeout. You could fly
over it, and you could see corn. As we say, you could row corn that was
in 3 feet of water and corn that was about a foot and a half tall when
it got covered by the flood. We didn't have a disaster payment for that
because the crop insurance covered the flood out. In the following year
of 2012, there was an epic drought. It was the same situation in that
the crop insurance covered it.

In many of these States--and let's start out with my State, which I
know--the premium reflects the risk. Now, it shifts from State to State
and history to history, but it's hard to do that calculation. You can't
do a snapshot of 1 year because, of course, 1 year might be a drought
year, and the next year might be a flood year, and the next 25 years
might be excellent, and I hope they are. So, if you look over a span of
time--a decade is a minimum, and maybe a generation is a better way to
look at this--and are able to frame the kind of experience we have with
weather, the premium needs to be moved in a direction in which it
better reflects the risk, but it has been a very good thing, the crop
insurance piece of this.
Then, as I look at this farm bill, I want to remind the people, Mr.
Speaker, that, for years, there have been direct payments, direct
payments that went in to the producer who signed up per acre--roughly,
a $20 per acre payment might be reflective of that era--and we saw
this: we saw commodities prices going up, and we saw profitability in
agriculture. When that happened, our producers came to us, people like
the Farm Bureau, the Corn Growers, the Soybean Association, and they
said the time comes when we need to just let go of these direct
payments. They came forward and said, Here. Will you take my direct
payments? I don't need them.
Hats off to anybody who has got Federal dollars coming into their
operations. They gave up direct payments willingly. That's in this
bill. It's in this bill, and it makes it permanent, putting an end to
direct payments. By the way, in the last farm bill--the 2008 farm bill,
it turned out to be--I tried to rename the direct payments then as

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the ``conservation compliance payments'' because that's what they
actually were. If they existed, I would say ``they are.'' It's a way to
say to producers that all of us are invested in the future productivity
of our soil. We are going to ask you to be good stewards of the soil,
and this is, actually, in many cases, a token incentive that you do
that. So that's going by the wayside.
This bill also eliminates several existing programs and rolls into
two separate programs a shallow loss and a deep loss program that, I
think, is a prudent use of the resources. We also said we are going to
cut money out of this ag side, not just the direct payments, but we
have dialed this thing down to the tune of $20 billion. There are $20
billion in cuts out of this bill on the agriculture side.
To draw a comparison, Mr. Speaker, one could think of the other part
of this farm bill that is not much discussed--I don't know today--which
is the jurisdiction of the subcommittee that I chair, the Nutrition
Subcommittee. Now, the numbers were that about 78 percent of the
previous farm bill went to nutrition and a little better than 20
percent went to agriculture and then some miscellaneous along the way.
So we just rounded it. For easy talking purposes, it is 80 percent to
SNAP--food stamps--nutrition programs and 20 percent to farmers. We
call it the ``farm bill,'' but it is 4 to 1 nutrition. When I came to
this town, there were 19 million people who were on food stamps, and we
called them ``food stamps'' then. By the time Barack Obama became
President, that number was about 28 million people who were on food
stamps, and now that number is north of 47 million people--on its way
to 48 million people--who are on food stamps. Now, it is partly because
this administration believes and has said openly--in fact, I will just
quote our Secretary of Agriculture:

For every dollar that you hand out in SNAP benefits--that
would mean food stamps, Mr. Speaker--you get $1.84 in
economic activity.

I've heard Steny Hoyer, the minority whip, say to us:

The best stimulation that you can get--the quickest you can
get in your economy--is food stamps and unemployment checks.

Now, that's an economic development plan for you, isn't it, Mr.
Speaker, if you could just hand out more food stamps and hand out more
unemployment checks? That's the best bump you can get to grow your
economy? What kind of a country are we if they think that's what is
going to drive our economy?
People on that side of the aisle resisted their reduction in the food
stamp program, and we brought categorical changes into it. So, as it
has grown into an over $800 billion program--that's over 10 years,
roughly, a number that approaches about $83 billion a year--we have
gone from 19 million people a year on food stamps to 28 million people
when Barack Obama became President, up now to nearly 48 million people
on food stamps, with millions of dollars being spent by the USDA to
advertise food stamps in order to get more people to sign up on food
stamps--millions--and minions are going out there who are, actually,
physically signing them up. That's what is going on.
We don't need to be expanding the dependency class in America. We
need to expand the independency class in America, and we want to make
sure that we get those resources to the people who need them. That's
what this bill does. It changes the categorical eligibility in such a
way that those who need those resources still have access to them.
One of those categorical eligibility changes has to do with, if a
child qualifies for a free and reduced lunch, it isn't automatic that
the family gets food stamps any longer under this bill. People on the
other side of the aisle, Mr. Speaker, have used that to argue that we
are going to kick 120,000 kids off of food stamps. It is not true. That
is the most extreme example they can come up with to embellish a number
to try to scare people off of the reform that we need. What it really
means is, if that number is right, they have to go reapply in a
legitimate way. If they are eligible, they are eligible, and they will
still get their food stamps.

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But they found a little sliver to make an argument that is not the
objective vision on what is going on.
We see that EBT cards, the Electronic Benefits Transfer cards, have
been used for tattoos. They have been used at the massage parlor. You
can see the neon signs that say, ``We take EBT.'' That is just straight
up. That is not talking about the 50 percent discount that is the going
rate for cash that you can get for your EBT card.
We need to be responsible with the taxpayers' money. We need to move
these reforms in place. We have seen our agriculture producers step up
and say, I am going to give up my conservation compliance/direct
payments. And we reform some of the programs. We keep the pieces in
place that we need so that there is a predictability in agriculture.
Our producers need predictability. There is no guarantee when it
comes to agriculture. You are taking a risk. But at least we can
predict the Federal Government's policy. We need to give 5 years of
policy guarantee for our agriculture producers.
We need to start the long march to start to reform the expansion of
the dependency class that has been a political calculation on the part
of the administration. Do the responsible thing for the taxpayers. And,
by the way, slow down on this burden that is being heaped upon those
children yet to be born called our national debt.
That is the picture. There is an urgency. Let's get this done.
I thank the gentleman from Illinois for his leadership here.
Mr. THOMPSON of Pennsylvania. Will the gentleman yield?
Mr. KING of Iowa. I yield to the gentleman from Pennsylvania for a
question, absolutely.
Mr. THOMPSON of Pennsylvania. As chair of the nutrition jurisdiction,
are the school lunch programs within title IV of the farm bill?
Mr. KING of Iowa. In response to the gentleman's question, no, school
lunch programs are not.
Mr. THOMPSON of Pennsylvania. That was my reading. I have read the
farm bill, yet I hear my colleagues on the other side of the aisle talk
a lot about the changes to the reforms.
As I mentioned in my remarks, and you reaffirmed, we are trying to
preserve this program for people who truly need it who meet the
eligibility by filling out an application. But I guess I get confused
when I hear my colleagues on the other side of the aisle use rhetoric
that they claim that somehow school lunches are impacted or the school
breakfast program is impacted by our work on the farm bill.
Mr. KING of Iowa. Reclaiming my time, I would say that there are
times when people that are in the political business will intentionally
conflate terms and arguments because it suits their agenda rather than
informs their constituents, Mr. Speaker. That is what I believe is
happening here.
If anyone is looking for proof positive that the school lunch program
is not part of title IV--any part of this farm bill--all they have to
do is look at the record of the committee and they can see that this
person right here, Steve King, offered no amendment to the school lunch
program that would have prohibited the Secretary of Agriculture from
rationing calories to our kids in the school lunch program.
I wish we had that language for us here on the floor of the House of
Representatives. We would have an engaging debate.
In fact, a year and a half ago, if I have got my dates right, the
First Lady had an idea that she wanted a Let's Move program to go. The
Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act was passed during a lame duck session in
2010 by the then Speaker of the House Speaker Pelosi. They passed the
Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act. That gave no authority to the Secretary
of Agriculture to ration calories to kids in the school lunch program,
which is not part of this farm bill, but they did it anyway. Now we are
starving kids in school. That ought to be something that outrages the
other side. But they will not show any outrage because they defend the
First Lady's Let's Move, which, by the way, is a critical service and
it was not shut down in the shutdown.
Mr. RODNEY DAVIS of Illinois. I thank the gentleman from Iowa.
Mr. Speaker, how much time do we have remaining?

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The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Messer). The gentleman has 3 minutes
remaining.
Mr. RODNEY DAVIS of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, I love the discussion
about school nutrition programs. I have spoken to many superintendents
in my district who used to run programs in their cafeterias where kids
would eat the school lunches. Now those once profitable programs are
not profitable anymore. Some school districts are opting out because of
the stringent rules and requirements to reduce calories and serve food
that kids won't eat.
Let me also, for the Record, Mr. Speaker, state that we are missing
an important part of any equation in tackling childhood obesity, and
that is exercise. Illinois, my home State, is the only State in the
Nation that requires physical education in K-12. Maybe we make that
part of the debate, too.
As I wrap up this Special Order, I want to thank everyone, all of my
colleagues, for coming down and talking about the importance of this 5-
year farm bill. It cannot be said enough that farmers have decided on
their own to help us save billions in your tax dollars. Twenty billion
dollars is what the farmers of this country have given up in direct
payments to really allow us to balance our budget and put a down
payment on the national debt.
There are some other crucial aspects of this bill, Mr. Speaker, that
we don't talk a lot about in the ag sector, but it is about the rules
and the regulatory process.
I was happy to introduce an amendment that actually gives the
Department of Agriculture a seat at the table when those at the EPA
decide to come up with rules like maybe treating milk spills like oil
spills from the Exxon Valdez.
Mr. Speaker, I ask you one question: Which one of those spills could
be cleaned up with cats? You know the answer and I know the answer, but
when they come up with crazy ideas like this, we believe that the
United States Department of Agriculture also deserves a seat at the
table to say--in a good, commonsense, Midwestern way, Hang on a second
here. Let's think about this. That is why an amendment like that is
crucial to a farm bill like this, because it is crazy ideas like that
that cost our farmers their livelihoods in some cases.
Mr. Speaker, this is a bill that is going to save taxpayers billions.
It is reforming crucial agricultural programs. It is putting us on a
path to certainty for America's agricultural future.
There are some in this body, Mr. Speaker, that believe we shouldn't
be involved in ag policy in this country. Well, my response to them is:
Do you want America to be a food exporter, like we are now, or do you
want to import our food supply?
We know the answer to that, Mr. Speaker. The answer--the solution to
make sure that doesn't happen--is getting this bill through a quick
conference committee, bringing it back to the floor of the House, and
ensuring that all our family farmers and all those who rely upon the ag
economy for their livelihood are put first.
Mr. Speaker, with that, I thank everyone who has been involved in
this process--my staff, many interns that have worked for me to put
this Special Order in place.
I yield back the balance of my time.

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