[Congressional Record Volume 158, Number 148 (Monday, November 26, 2012)]
[Senate]
[Pages S6890-S6891]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]




  NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2013--MOTION TO 
                                PROCEED

  Mr. REID. I now move we proceed to Calendar No. 419, S. 3254.

[[Page S6891]]

  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will report the bill by title.
  The assistant bill clerk read as follows:

       Motion to proceed to the bill (S. 3254) to authorize 
     appropriations for fiscal year 2013 for military activities 
     of the Department of Defense, for military construction, and 
     for defense activities of the Department of Energy, to 
     prescribe military personnel strengths for such fiscal year, 
     and for other purposes.

  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The majority leader.
  Mr. REID. As I indicated this morning, we are trying to work our way 
through a number of issues. We thought we were going to be able to move 
toward the Carcieri matter this evening, but we are still negotiating 
this matter, so we are going to have to do that at some subsequent 
time.
  I suggest the absence of a quorum.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
  The assistant bill clerk proceeded to call the roll.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Alabama.
  Mr. SESSIONS. Madam President, I ask unanimous consent that the order 
for the quorum call be rescinded.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.


                          The Sportsmen's Act

  Mr. SESSIONS. Madam President, I appreciate the vote we just 
concluded. I think what the vote said is that we want the bill on the 
floor to be in compliance with the Budget Control Act that was passed 
15 months ago. This bill, even though it was not a lot of money, 
violated that. Senators have voted not to waive the budget and spend 
the money anyway. They decided we should comply with the budget.
  I talked with Senator Tester and Majority Leader Reid and assured 
them that the fundamentals of this bill are good. I like what they have 
been trying to do with the Sportsmen's Act and I have been supportive 
of so many of the provisions in it.
  We had several little problems. First and foremost, it attempted to 
spend more than the EKW Committee was entitled to spend under the 
Budget Control Act. Second, we have a blue slip problem with it. 
Thirdly, we have given the Interior Department Secretary the power to 
raise taxes unilaterally without a vote of Congress, and I think that 
is bad policy. All of those, however, compared to the many other 
provisions in the legislation are small, and we should be able to work 
them out. So I hope we can, and I will be working in that regard.
  However, I do wish to say to my colleagues, this is the second bill 
that has had a lot of support on both sides of the aisle but has failed 
because they violated the Budget Control Act agreement on spending. 
Some on the other side might think they can simply say Republicans are 
obstructionists, they are killing bills just because they want to kill 
them and they don't like them. That is not correct. Republicans want to 
deal with many of the issues before us, such as veterans jobs, such as 
issues important to sportsmen, and we are supportive of them, but we 
want them to be done according to the agreement we reached on spending 
limits last year, and that can easily be done. We spend almost $3700 
billion a year. We ought to be able to find $14 million from waste, 
fraud, duplication--savings that can be utilized to pay for this new 
program.
  What the bill suggests by the way it is written is that we have 
looked at all of the spending in the entire U.S. Government and we 
can't find $14 million less valuable than to spend it on migratory bird 
conservation. I think that is not true. Of course we can find waste, 
fraud, and abuse right there. We can find other ways to consolidate 
programs to fund this. We have to honor the agreement we reached, 
because it looks to me as though we will soon be headed to some sort of 
late-night, end-of-the-session monumental bill, and it will be like 
what we had 15 months ago when the debt ceiling was increased and 
spending was limited and we promised to raise the debt ceiling but 
limit spending growth, basically. We voted on that. The majority voted 
for it. The President supported it. He signed it. It became law. Here 
we are now 15 months later, having had four bills brought to this floor 
that violated that spending limit. So we have to be careful. The 
American people are not going to be very confident, if we reach some 
sort of other spending limit agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff, that 
we won't, before the ink is dry, start violating it. After all, it only 
takes 60 votes.
  I think it is a very important issue. I am the ranking Republican on 
the Budget Committee. When we make an agreement, I think we ought to 
adhere to it, and this is why we had difficulty with the bill.
  I enjoyed working with Senator Tester on it. I have had a good 
conversation with Senate Majority Leader Reid. Hopefully, something can 
be worked out to fix this problem.
  I thank the Chair and yield the floor.
  Mr. LEVIN. Mr. President, I note the absence of a quorum.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
  The legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
  Mr. LEVIN. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for 
the quorum call be rescinded.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Merkley). Without objection, it is so 
ordered.

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