[Congressional Record Volume 158, Number 128 (Thursday, September 20, 2012)]
[House]
[Pages H6165-H6174]
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PROVIDING FOR CONSIDERATION OF HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION 118, DISAPPROVING
RULE RELATING TO WAIVER AND EXPENDITURE AUTHORITY WITH RESPECT TO THE
TEMPORARY ASSISTANCE FOR NEEDY FAMILIES PROGRAM; PROVIDING FOR
CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 3409, STOP THE WAR ON COAL ACT OF 2012; AND
PROVIDING FOR PROCEEDINGS DURING THE PERIOD FROM SEPTEMBER 22, 2012,
THROUGH NOVEMBER 12, 2012
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on
Rules, I call up House Resolution 788 and ask for its immediate
consideration.
The Clerk read the resolution, as follows:
H. Res. 788
Resolved, That upon the adoption of this resolution it
shall be in order to consider in the House the joint
resolution (H.J. Res. 118) providing for congressional
disapproval under chapter 8 of title 5, United States Code,
of the rule submitted by the Office of Family Assistance of
the Administration for Children and Families of the
Department of Health and Human Services relating to waiver
and expenditure authority under section 1115 of the Social
Security Act (42 U.S.C. 1315) with respect to the Temporary
Assistance for Needy Families program. All points of order
against consideration of the joint resolution are waived. The
joint resolution shall be considered as read. All points of
order against provisions in the joint resolution are waived.
The previous question shall be considered as ordered on the
joint resolution to final passage without intervening motion
except: (1) one hour of debate equally divided among and
controlled by the chair and ranking minority member of the
Committee on Ways and Means and the chair and ranking
minority member of the Committee on Education and the
Workforce; and (2) one motion to recommit.
Sec. 2. At any time after the adoption of this resolution
the Speaker may, pursuant to clause 2(b) of rule XVIII,
declare the House resolved into the Committee of the Whole
House on the state of the Union for consideration of the bill
(H.R. 3409) to limit the authority of the Secretary of the
Interior to issue regulations before December 31, 2013, under
the Surface Mining Control and Reclamation Act of 1977. The
first reading of the bill shall be dispensed with. All points
of order against consideration of the bill are waived.
General debate shall be confined to the bill and amendments
specified in this resolution and shall not exceed one hour
equally divided among and controlled by the chair and ranking
minority member of the Committee on Natural Resources, the
chair and ranking minority member of the Committee on Energy
and Commerce, and the chair and ranking minority member of
the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure. After
general debate the bill shall be considered for amendment
under the five-minute rule. In lieu of the amendment in the
nature of a substitute recommended by the Committee on
Natural Resources now printed in the bill, it shall be in
order to consider as an original bill for the purpose of
amendment under the five-minute rule an amendment in the
nature of a substitute consisting of the text of Rules
Committee Print 112-32. That amendment in the nature of a
substitute shall be considered as read. All points of order
against that amendment in the nature of a substitute are
waived. No amendment to that amendment in the nature of a
substitute shall be in order except those printed in the
report of the Committee on Rules accompanying this
resolution. Each such amendment may be offered only in the
order printed in the report, may be offered only by a Member
designated in the report, shall be considered as read, shall
be debatable for the time specified in the report equally
divided and controlled by the proponent and an opponent,
shall not be subject to amendment, and shall not be subject
to a demand for division of the question in the House or in
the Committee of the Whole. All points of order against such
amendments are waived. At the conclusion of consideration of
the bill for amendment the Committee shall rise and report
the bill to the House with such amendments as may have been
adopted. Any Member may demand a separate vote in the House
on any amendment adopted in the Committee of the Whole to the
bill or to the amendment in the nature of a substitute made
in order as original text. The previous question shall be
considered as ordered on the bill and amendments thereto to
final passage without intervening motion except one motion to
recommit with or without instructions.
Sec. 3. On any legislative day during the period from
September 22, 2012, through November 12, 2012, --
(a) the Journal of the proceedings of the previous day
shall be considered as approved;
(b) the Chair may at any time declare the House adjourned
to meet at a date and time, within the limits of clause 4,
section 5, article I of the Constitution, to be announced by
the Chair in declaring the adjournment; and
(c) bills and resolutions introduced during the period
addressed by this section shall be numbered, listed in the
Congressional Record, and when printed shall bear the date of
introduction, but may be referred by the Speaker at a later
time.
Sec. 4. The Speaker may appoint Members to perform the
duties of the Chair for the duration of the period addressed
by section 3 of this resolution as though under clause 8(a)
of rule I.
Sec. 5. Each day during the period addressed by section 3
of this resolution shall not constitute a calendar day for
purposes of section 7 of the War Powers Resolution (50 U.S.C.
1546).
Sec. 6. Each day during the period addressed by section 3
of this resolution shall not constitute a legislative day for
purposes of clause 7 of rule XIII.
Sec. 7. Each day during the period addressed by section 3
of this resolution shall not constitute a calendar or
legislative day for purposes of clause 7(c)(1) of rule XXII.
Point of Order
Ms. MOORE. Mr. Speaker, I respectfully raise a point of order against
H. Res. 788 because the resolution violates section 426(a) of the
Congressional Budget Act.
The resolution contains a waiver of all points of order against
consideration of the bill, which includes a waiver of section 425 of
the Congressional Budget Act which causes a violation of section
426(a).
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentlewoman from Wisconsin makes a point
of order that the resolution violates section 426(a) of the
Congressional Budget Act of 1974.
The gentlewoman has met the threshold burden under the rule, and the
gentlewoman from Wisconsin and a Member opposed each will control 10
minutes of debate on the question of consideration. Following debate,
the Chair will put the question of consideration as the statutory means
of disposing of the point of order.
The Chair recognizes the gentlewoman from Wisconsin.
Ms. MOORE. I thank you so much, Mr. Speaker.
I raise this point of order, not necessarily out of concern for
unfunded mandates, although there are some in the underlying bills
under consideration here today, H.J. Res. 118 and H.R. 3409. Rather, I
am here today because this is the only opportunity to voice my adamant
opposition to the TANF-related resolution of disapproval, H.J. Res.
118, given the strict closed terms of our debate today.
My goal here today, Mr. Speaker, is to be a voice of reason, and
certainly a voice of truth in this debate, because we are all
undoubtedly about to hear an astonishing array of half truths and, Mr.
Speaker, even lies about the Temporary Assistance For Needy Families
program or TANF--the lie, for example, that the TANF program was this
raving success that took people out of poverty, gave them dignity and
put them in good jobs. Well, what it really did was to really kick poor
people off the rolls.
You know, under President Clinton, 1996, when we passed the original
TANF bill, it was a time of prosperity; and those people, primarily
women, who would normally get off the rolls within 2 years, found jobs
which were readily available. But even more, primarily women, just
simply languished in poverty as a permanent underclass.
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Despite the creation of the so-called ``safety net'' under TANF,
many, many women have languished in poverty and are still in poverty
today. We're not just talking about the poor. We're talking about deep
poverty.
Mr. Speaker, did you know that between 1996 and 2011 the numbers of
U.S. households living on less than $2 per person per day--the measure
of extreme poverty as defined by the World Bank for developing
nations--has more than doubled from 636,000 to 1.46--nearly 1.5--
million people and that the number of children in extremely poor
households has also doubled from 1.4 million up to 2.8 million children
living in poverty--children, by the way, who cannot work? We are
talking about the poorest of the poor. These numbers are startling
given that we are talking about the United States of America, not some
Third World country.
Now let's get to the big lie that these resolutions relate to. The
Republicans claim that the work requirements have been gutted under the
Health and Human Services' guidance. These lies have already been
debunked by the
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media, by Fact Check checkers, even by the original architects of
TANF--for example, by Ron Haskins.
Apparently, our colleagues find it convenient to ignore the facts;
but, of course, we have heard throughout this election cycle that the
GOP is not going to be dictated by facts. Sadly, I'm not at all
surprised that we are forced to engage in this TANF battle on the House
floor. I knew that the GOP would challenge the administration's
proposal at the earliest opportunity; but, frankly, House Republicans'
timing on this could not be worse.
Do you think that the American people are demanding more attacks on
the poor from your party this week or that doubling down on a strategy
of vilifying the poor is a wise choice--trotting out the mythical, lazy
welfare queen who doesn't want to take responsibility for her own life,
who is part of the 47 percent who would rather have a so-called
``government handout'' than a job?
I think that the insistence on considering this bill at this moment
in history when we should be considering critical issues like the farm
bill for our drought-ridden States or the Violence Against Women Act--
or how about this one, Mr. Speaker, the American Jobs Act?--rather than
political message bills is remarkably tone deaf. TANF was written at a
time when our labor market and our economy were radically different
than they are today.
I didn't support TANF in 1996, but I certainly don't support it now
that I have seen what it has done. It has become a hollow shell of a
safety net program. It is not going to be allowed to evolve with the
times, and it is now nothing short of completely broken. TANF
recipients have been poorly served by the program, which too often
locks people into a cycle of poverty through rigid guidelines and red
tape while allowing them no access to real opportunity. In its current
form, the program makes it extremely hard to move from welfare to work,
which is supposedly the goal of the program, an honorable goal of the
program.
Mr. Speaker, check this out: States can meet their work requirements
even if none--zero--of their recipients find a job. States are only
measured by whether or not recipients participate in certain activities
for a set number of hours, like if they just job search and never find
a job.
Not only are we not moving people from welfare to work in this
program, but we are not allowing people any opportunity to get the
education and training they might need to compete in the labor market
or to learn valuable skills. We are trapping them in so-called ``job-
search activities'' that are poorly designed and add up to nothing.
TANF just does not provide real opportunities that could translate into
better lives for beneficiaries. There are others who are unable to get
help at all because the program is not designed to allow them in the
door.
Shockingly, States are rewarded for simply lowering their caseloads
rather than for moving people into jobs. There is, indeed, an incentive
for States to create barriers that prevent the individuals and families
with the highest need from even participating. We've heard the horror
stories of people who have been kicked off TANF or who couldn't get in
in the first place and of the desperate things they've had to do to
feed and shelter and clothe their children.
By now, those of us who have been paying even the bare minimum of
attention realize that the Republicans have been playing politics with
the Obama administration's waiver program and have been playing fast
and loose with reality. I would venture to guess that every Member in
this Chamber knows the truth, that Republicans and Democratic Governors
have been requesting increased flexibility in implementing the welfare
reform for many years.
In fact, in 2005, no fewer than 29 Republican Governors asked for
increased waiver authority, and given my limited time, I will only name
a few of them. We have such socialist Governors like Mississippi
Governor Haley Barbour, Texas Governor Rick Perry. How about Arkansas
Governor Mike Huckabee and none other than--drum roll, please--
Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney?
Like these Governors, I wholeheartedly endorse the idea of allowing
States the flexibility to craft welfare systems that meet the specific
needs of their job markets and their participants. I know--and I know
that many of you know, though you refuse to acknowledge it--that the
waiver proposal from the Department of Health and Human Services would
meaningfully strengthen our ability to move people from welfare to
work.
May I inquire, Mr. Speaker, as to how much time I have remaining.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentlewoman from Wisconsin has 40
seconds remaining.
Ms. MOORE. I was once one of those 47 percent--a welfare recipient. I
have seen firsthand the successes and failures of this safety net in my
community and across the Nation. I support the administration's
strategic efforts to guarantee that TANF is a more effective program. I
encourage all of my colleagues to reject H.J. Res. 118, this resolution
of disapproval, and to, instead, work together to build a strong
workforce and economy.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Speaker, I rise to claim the time in
opposition to the point of order and in favor of the consideration of
the resolution.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman is recognized for 10 minutes.
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Speaker, the question before the House is:
Should the House consider H. Res. 788? While the resolution waives all
points of order against the consideration of H.J. Res. 118 and H.R.
3409, the committee is not aware of any points of order, and the waiver
is basically prophylactic in nature.
We heard a lot of emotional and interesting points as to the basis of
the bill that could be debated if, indeed, this rule were to be passed.
I don't think it is actually the time right now in a point of order to
go over the benefits of the bill or the detriments of whatever may
happen if the bill, itself, is actually debated. There is time for
that.
We do know that the number of individuals receiving welfare has
dropped by 57 percent, that poverty amongst all single mothers has
fallen by 30 percent, that the poverty amongst black children has
dropped to its lowest level since 2001, and that employment and
earnings amongst single mothers have increased significantly.
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But that's all debate to the bill, which still has to go through the
rule debate, and we're not talking about that. This is a procedural
issue.
We could talk about the fact that in '93 the Ways and Means Committee
did say that waivers granted after the date of enactment may not
override provisions in the TANF law that concern further mandatory work
retirements. But, once again, that would be the kinds of things that we
should be talking about in the debate of the bill, which will come
after the debate on the rule, which will come after our discussion of
this procedural point of order.
So, actually, the merits of what the bill is is not the same thing as
the purpose of the procedural point of order. The procedural point of
order still has to be based on the idea of unfunded mandates within the
rule.
The Congressional Budget Office believes that H.R. 3409 would impose
an intergovernmental mandate as defined in the Unfunded Mandates Reform
Act. However, based on the information for EPA and a small number of
public entities would be required to comply with the bill's
requirement, the CBO estimates that the cost of those entities to
comply would fall below the Unfunded Mandates Reform Act's annual
threshold for intergovernmental mandates. It's a threshold that is set
and adjusted for inflation.
So the Congressional Budget Office states that H.J. Res. 118 also
contains no intergovernmental or private sector mandates as defined by
the Mandates Reform Act. That is the basis of the point of order. The
bottom line is there is no violation of both an unfunded mandate within
the rule or in the bills themselves.
The rest of the discussion is actually to the merits of the
legislation and is appropriate at the time as we are debating that
legislation.
So, Mr. Speaker, although I really have this great desire to use the
full 10 minutes of discussion here, the bottom line still----
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Ms. MOORE. Will the gentleman yield whilst he has too much time?
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. No, thank you.
Ms. MOORE. Will the gentleman yield to a question?
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. I appreciate the honor. Will the gentlewoman from
Wisconsin let me finish the statement?
Ms. MOORE. I am asking you if you would yield to a question, not for
me to speak.
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. I appreciate the interruption, but let me finish
here. And probably not. Let's get on with the issue at hand here.
The point of order basically, Mr. Speaker, is still specious. It is
in order to allow the House to continue its scheduled business for the
day because the issue of the point of order is the unfunded mandate,
not the other merits towards the legislation.
So I do urge Members to vote ``yes'' on the question of
consideration. We will have an additional hour to discuss anything you
wish to on the rule debate, as well as a whole lot of time on the
merits of the bill when we debate the bill itself.
With that, I yield back the balance of my time.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. All time for debate has expired.
The question is, Will the House now consider the resolution?
The question of consideration was decided in the affirmative.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Utah is recognized for 1
hour.
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Speaker, for the purposes of debate only, I
yield the customary 30 minutes to the gentlelady from New York (Ms.
Slaughter), pending which I yield myself such time as I may consume.
During consideration of this resolution, all time yielded is for the
purpose of debate only.
General Leave
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. I ask unanimous consent that all Members have 5
legislative days during which they may revise and extend their remarks.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the
gentleman from Utah?
There was no objection.
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. This resolution provides for a closed rule for
the consideration of H.J. Res. 118, the congressional disapproval
waiver of work requirements, and provides 1 hour of general debate,
with 30 minutes equally divided and controlled by the chair and the
ranking minority member of the Committee on Ways and Means and 30
minutes equally divided and controlled by the chair and the ranking
minority member of the Committee on Education and the Workforce.
This rule also provides for a structured debate for consideration of
H.R. 3409, the Coal Miner Employment and Domestic Energy Infrastructure
Protection Act, and provides for 1 hour of general debate, with 20
minutes equally divided and controlled by the chair and the ranking
minority member of the Committee on Natural Resources, 20 minutes
equally divided and controlled by the chair and the ranking minority
member of the Committee on Energy and Commerce, and 20 minutes equally
divided and controlled by the chair and the ranking minority member of
the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure.
Finally, this rule makes in order a number of important amendments on
both sides of the aisle. If staff doesn't change my mind, I believe
there are 13--7 Republican and 6 Democrat--amendments which is as close
as you can get with an uneven number to a fair rule. So it is a fair
rule.
Mr. Speaker, now speaking towards the merits of this particular
resolution, I would like to make special mention of Congressman
Johnson, who is the base sponsor of H.R. 3409, the Coal Miner
Employment and Domestic Energy Infrastructure Protection Act. He
definitely has been one of the leaders in this entire area of the issue
of coal as it is used in energy. Not only is it important to his
constituents, but this is an important issue for the entire country.
And I want to recognize Mr. Johnson as having been tireless in
committee, asking questions that go to the core of this particular
issue, providing amendments, and then finally culminating with his bill
which deals with how we actually can use coal to further our energy
needs in this particular country. Representative Johnson is a freshman
who has learned fast and is a true champion for inexpensive energy that
will expand our economy and create jobs for American citizens.
With that, Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me the
customary 30 minutes, and I yield myself such time as I may consume.
This week marks the last time the Chamber will meet until the middle
of November. As we depart, the majority walks away with the dubious
distinction of having presided over a session of Congress that is
widely called the least productive in history. This Congress has
achieved that distinction because, although bipartisan consensus is
needed to pass any bill into law, the majority has spent the last 2
years pursuing an extreme and partisan agenda. In fact, they have
repeatedly spurned potential bipartisanship in order to vote on
ideological legislation that will never become law.
In week after week, the majority has refused to help our Nation's
drought-stricken farmers. With the Senate-approved farm bill sitting on
the table and a bipartisan outcry to pass a 5-year farm bill growing,
the majority has decided to neglect our Nation's farmers and allow the
farm bill to expire without even attempting to pass a bill at any time
in the House.
An expiration of the farm bill means that dairy farmers in my part of
the country, western New York, and throughout the United States will
lose what little safety net they have. Yet, when faced with the choice
of passing a compromised farm bill or pursuing an all-or-nothing
partisan agenda or, as we're doing today, passing bills that have
already passed the House just because they liked them so much they
wanted to see them again, the majority chose the latter.
In western New York, farmers don't need the majority to play partisan
games. They need a 5-year farm bill, and they need it now.
Unfortunately, the bills we consider today offer more of the same.
Both the bills before us today are little more than extreme and
partisan messaging documents designed to benefit politicians running
for office, not the American citizen struggling to get by. Take, for
example, H.R. 3409, the Coal Miner Employment and Domestic Energy
Infrastructure Protection Act. That's a fine title there. Four out of
the five titles in this bill, as I had said a minute ago, four out of
the five bills in this measure have already been voted on by the House,
but they were too partisan and extreme to pass the Senate. They will
not yet again pass the Senate; therefore, it is simply a waste of time
today.
It costs a lot of money to bring all the Members of Congress back to
Washington from the four corners of the United States, and to come back
to repass bills that have already passed that will never go beyond this
House cannot be called anything else but a colossal, disastrous waste
of time.
Among other things, the bill would roll back decades of environmental
protections, endanger the public's health, and prevent our country from
addressing the growing threat of climate change. The majority knows
that such extreme proposals will not pass into law, but they are moving
forward anyway in order to serve political campaigns. Similar
sentiments appear to be driving the consideration of the second
proposal, the TANF disapproval resolution.
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This bill is based upon a premise that has been proven false by
multiple fact-checking organizations, including The Washington Post
Fact Checker. Indeed PolitiFact, an nonpartisan project of the Tampa
Bay Times, has concluded that ``by granting waivers to States, the
Obama administration is seeking to make welfare-to-work efforts more
successful, not end them.''
Despite that, we're going to bring up the bill today to cure
something that does not exist. It is astounding that at a time when we
could be voting on a jobs bill, Republicans have instead chosen to
block an Obama administration proposal that would help States put more
people back to work and, indeed, has been requested by those States'
Governors.
Perhaps most telling is the fact that even as we consider these
bills, the majority also refuses to consider legislation to address
serious national crises.
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Yesterday at a meeting of the Rules Committee, they blocked five
amendments that would address those issues.
First they brought an amendment by Representative Boswell to vote on
the bipartisan Senate farm bill. They had another chance yesterday to
bring the farm bill up before we all go home. Then they brought an
amendment by Representative Moore to reauthorize the Violence Against
Women Act, which expires in days and a bipartisan bill, if ever there
was one, because I was one of the coauthors of the bill. That has been
routinely authorized by both parties until this year.
Finally, they blocked amendments by my colleagues, Representatives
Levin, Connolly, and Blumenauer to pass tax cuts for the middle class,
to extend a production tax credit for renewable energy producers, wind
energy, and to consider legislation to address the financial crisis
facing the postal service.
The majority was given a chance to bring all of its proposals to the
floor, but they walked away and went forward with the messaging before
us today. So we will pass today four bills that have been passed
previously.
I asked my colleagues in the majority: Which is more important, to
provide relief to the drought-stricken farmers or voting to deny
climate change? Which is more important, passing a symbolic resolution
based upon a false premise or providing tax cuts to the middle class?
Which is more important, passing self-proclaimed messaging documents,
or working together to provide for the millions of Americans in need?
If you would ask a farmer in Monroe County, New York, if they would
rather have Congress pass a dead-on-arrival messaging bill or act on a
bipartisan farm bill, I know and you know what they would choose.
In closing, what we are considering today are choices made by the
majority, a choice to pursue an extreme and bipartisan agenda that they
knew would never become law. In so doing, they have failed to provide
results for the American people that lead to the least productive
Congress in the history of our Nation.
I urge my colleagues to reconsider the choices that have been brought
here today and the legislation that we are about to consider. In the
process, I hope we can finally end the political games and return to
the responsibility of governing.
I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may
consume.
Mr. Speaker, I hope you will forgive me if I try to limit myself to
what is actually in the resolutions and the bills that we are
presenting today as far as the Rules Committee is concerned.
There is, though, a common thread that runs through the two
resolutions that happen to be here and deals with the definition of
what is administrative and what is legislative. Even if the current
administration seems to have a problem in making that definition of
what is administrative, we in Congress need to clearly understand what
is our legislative responsibility.
Our good friend, Louie Gohmert of Texas, always says that he who
learns the lessons of history will find some other way to screw it up.
That's probably true. I don't want to sound like an old history
teacher, but I am. I do want to say that there are some things that we
in Congress should be doing to learn from our past history.
John Page, in 1771, a Congressman from Virginia, was on the House
floor when it was determined while the House was debating whether they
stuck around to actually determine where postal routes should be.
People wanted to go, and, more importantly, the people trusted the
President. The question was, Why don't we just let the President do it
all?
It was John Page who stood up and said, and I move to adjourn and
leave all objects of legislation to his, the President's, sole
consideration and direction. He shamed Congress into doing their job of
writing the legislation and not allowing the executive branch, the
administration, simply to do everything by fiat. We sometimes have
forgotten that.
In the TARP language, we put in language like, the Secretary of the
Treasury will be able to purchase troubled assets on such terms and
conditions as are determined by the Secretary; or authorize any
purchase on which the Secretary determines, promotes financial market
stability; or the Secretary is authorized to take such action as the
Secretary deems necessary to carry out all authorities in this
particular act.
That is legislative authority that we passed on to the executive
branch. That was a tragic mistake. We should not incorporate that
tragic mistake, wider now, by simply allowing the executive branch to
take on responsibilities and authorities of their own free will and
volition.
We have this same situation once again in the history of this
country. We had a President of the United States who wrote a book about
Congress without ever visiting Congress itself, who said what the
Founding Fathers realized, in which their effort to have vertical
separation of power between State and national government--what we call
federalism--and horizontal separation of powers between the three
branches, which we call the separation of powers--and every public
school student is taught that--they were put in there so that
individual liberty, which I always consider to be individual choices
and options in running their lives, would be protected against the
concentration of power in one branch or another.
Now, this former President of the United States called this
separation of powers political witchcraft. He said it was wrong to try
and separate powers perplexingly subdivided and distributed to be
hunted down in out-of-the-way corners. An earlier President than him
thought, you know, the President of the United States is elected by
everybody, Congress by a few people, the courts by none. Therefore,
ignore the courts, which has some appeal, but at the same time the
President should speak for the government.
This other President, coming back later, built upon that so he
increased the role and power of the executive branch under the concept
the President is the President of the whole people and, therefore, he
has the ability to transcend separation of powers.
His effort to improve democracy was to eliminate democracy and
instead ensure that the decisions were not made by the people or the
voice or representatives of the people, but by experts, experts who
were serving in the administrative branches. We, if you like that
concept, call it the administrative state. If you don't, we call it
``nanny government.'' Nonetheless, that was the concept.
One of the other Presidents that came shortly before him said there
will be little permanent good that can be done by any party if we fail
to regard the States as anything other than a convenient unit for local
government. He said there is no harm by concentrating power in the
hands of one individual. He also said that he would not be content with
keeping his talents undamaged in a napkin. That's perhaps why the
Speaker of the House at the time said he had no more use for the
Constitution than a tomcat has for a marriage license.
The bottom line of what happened in the history is that all of a
sudden we found that the Founding Fathers who believed in people and
believed in the legislative branch, listening to John Locke, who said
you cannot transfer the power of the legislature to another branch,
those type of people decided at that time that the people should not be
running their own affairs, that government experts should be making
that policy.
To be honest, when we're talking about the first resolution that
deals with TANF, the welfare issue, I don't care if the waiver is the
greatest thing since sliced bread, it is still extra-constitutional and
it should not be used and Congress should not allow it to take away
what is the role of Congress, and only Congress, to establish these
issues and set these boundaries.
In the other bill that we're talking about, we're talking about
prohibiting future actions by entities, in this case, specifically the
EPA, which would destroy jobs, increase the cost of our utilities that
would cause greater costs of lighting homes and heating homes,
especially for those who have the least ability to do so.
Congressmen and Congresswomen must stand up and insist that Congress
create these standards and create these options, not being made by
executive
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fiat. That is the very purpose of why we are here.
The first President, to whom I referred, ended up with a legacy of
many programs implemented which we still today find controversial. He
was labeled by historians as an arrogant President at that time who
refused to talk to Congress. Because of that, he lost some of his last,
most precious programs in an effort to try and go around Congress
rather than working with Congress.
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Now, Mr. Speaker, that's why this resolution is before us and why
these two separate bills are here. Both of them attempt to set the
record straight and show that it is Congress' responsibility to set the
rules and the guidelines. It is not an administrative prerogative. And
we as Congress need to step forward and say we are the ones who do
this. We should not allow it to be done by anyone else, regardless of
why it's being done or the merits of why it's being done. It's our job.
We should learn from history. We should be more like John Page and
try and make sure the Congress does these types of issues and makes
these types of decisions and less like Presidents later on who thought
the President speaks for everybody and the President has every right to
transcend separation of powers and do it for himself. That's the basis
of these two bills. That's the important issue. We should learn the
lesson of history.
With that, I reserve the balance of my time.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 5 minutes to the
gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Markey).
Mr. MARKEY. I thank the gentlelady.
Republicans are saying that there is a war on coal. They even named
this bill the End the War on Coal Act. But the only battle coal is
losing is in the free market to natural gas, to wind, to solar.
Just 4 years ago, coal generated 51 percent of our electricity. Now
it is down to 35 percent of our electricity. Have the lights gone off?
No. And that's because coal has been replaced in the free market by
natural gas, which has risen from 21 percent to 30 percent of all
electrical generation in our country. And by the way, the same thing is
true for wind. Wind has gone from 1 percent of electrical generation to
4 percent of electrical generation.
That's your answer. That's what's happening. The marketplace has
moved to natural gas--another fossil fuel, by the way--and wind. And
why have they done so? Natural gas is cheaper than coal. It's more
plentiful now because of fracking technologies. And the market has
moved.
What is happening? What is happening is that natural gas prices have
gone down 66 percent in the last 4 years. That is the shift from coal
over to natural gas. That's the arithmetic. You're a consumer, you see
a product, it does the same thing as the other product, and it's
dropped 66 percent in price. The arithmetic says I go and get that
product if it's going to ensure that my home is heated, that my air
conditioning goes on. It's just arithmetic. Coal is losing to natural
gas.
So when the Republicans say there is a war on coal, in a market
sense, yes, there is a war. In the same sense that when we started
carrying BlackBerries, it was a war on the black rotary-dial phone; in
the same sense that when we started using Macs and PCs, it was a war on
typewriters; in the same sense that the horseless carriage was a war on
horses; in the same sense that refrigerators were a war on salted
meats; in the same sense that the telegraph was a war on carrier
pigeons.
These aren't wars. It's innovation. It's competition. It's natural
gas versus coal. All we're saying as Democrats is let the free market
work. You're here saying, No, protectionism. Protectionism against the
natural gas industry winning this battle in the marketplace. By the
way, natural gas is also winning the battle in the marketplace against
home heating oil. Tens of thousands of people are shifting from home
heating oil over to natural gas. Why? It's cheaper. The same thing is
true in the production of petrochemicals and fertilizers. Industries
are moving away from oil as the component part of moving over to
natural gas. Why is that? It is cheaper. It's across-the-board.
Do you understand this, Republicans? It's arithmetic. It's simple.
It's easy to understand. It's not the policies of the Obama
administration. If you want to blame someone, blame Adam Smith for the
ruthless, Darwinian, paranoia-inducing market system that we've adopted
where utilities and private citizens and the petrochemical industry
move toward a product which is cheaper, more available here in the
United States, a domestic industry that is here.
Instead, this is a Republican Congress which has 302 anti-
environmental votes, which they've cast in just a year and 8 months.
That's 302 anti-environmental votes. That's what they're all about.
This whole thing is an excuse to lower the protection against pollution
coming from coal that damages the health of children, the health of our
environment all across our country, when they're just losing a battle
to natural gas in the marketplace.
They get an F on Medicare this Congress, F on tax breaks, F on jobs,
F on urgent priorities, F on women, and an F on environment. It's just
an excuse because they don't like what is going on in the marketplace.
And it's a shame because they tout themselves as that party.
Simultaneously, you know what they do? They're killing the wind tax
break--killing it because it's up to 4 percent of electricity and
keeping the exact same amount in for ExxonMobil and the oil companies
to produce oil. Now how can you call that a plan of all-of-the-above?
All of this tilts the playing field, tilts the competition in the
marketplace. You can't give tax breaks to oil and take them away from
wind and say you're all-of-the-above. You can't say you want to tilt
the playing field toward coal as natural gas is winning in the
marketplace and say you're in favor of all-of-the-above. You are not.
You are not.
So, ladies and gentlemen, I ask for a ``no'' vote on this rule and a
``no'' vote on these bills as they come to the floor of the House. It
is anti-market policy on steroids as they bring it out here on the
House floor.
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. With gratitude for the last speech, which was
such a stirring support of fracking, which has made gas so plentiful
and useful in this country, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Colorado (Mr. Lamborn).
Mr. LAMBORN. I thank the gentleman from Utah.
The bill we are considering today is very simple: It's a bill that
protects one of the Nation's most abundant and cheap energy sources--
coal--and ensures that some of the highest-paid family wage jobs in the
country are saved.
I want to focus on title I of H.R. 3409 that limits the authority of
the Secretary of the Interior to issue new burdensome regulations under
SMCRA until the end of 2013. This title will put a short timeout on the
recklessly rushed rulemaking by the administration that has resulted in
millions of wasted dollars and confusion by all parties regarding the
current management of coal by the Office of Surface Mining. This
rulemaking has been an unmitigated disaster, with the administration
attempting to compress what ordinarily would take 36 months into 15
months. When news got out about how many jobs would be lost under these
proposed rules, the administration fired the independent contractor who
provided the analysis.
The administration's own analysis is that 7,000 direct mining jobs
would be lost and an additional 29,000 people would fall below the
poverty level in the Appalachian basin alone. The proposed rules would
have a negative economic impact in 22 States.
How in the world can a President who gives lip service to creating
jobs allow his bureaucrats to kill jobs in coal States?
This bill will simply give OSM a timeout so they can hear and address
the concerns raised by the cooperating agencies, coal mining States and
tribes, and citizens. It will allow States time to read the hundreds of
pages of materials in months rather than days. The current rulemaking
by OSM is an out-of-control process with no regard for mine workers and
their families who depend on these jobs.
I urge my colleagues to support the resolution and the Johnson bill.
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Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I am glad to yield 2 minutes to the
gentlewoman from Connecticut (Ms. DeLauro).
Ms. DeLAURO. Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to this political
resolution that aims to wrongly characterize the administration's
position on Temporary Assistance to Needy Families. This is a waste of
our time.
The purpose of the administration's waiver proposal is to allow
States to test alternative and innovative strategies that are designed
to improve employment outcomes for needy families. As the Department of
Health and Human Services has said repeatedly, waivers will only be
approved if a State can prove that there is an effective transition
from welfare to work. In essence, that they are putting more people to
work.
Is the majority now against putting people to work? Or are they
against states' rights? If so, they may want to tell their Presidential
candidate. In 2005, Mitt Romney and 28 other Republican Governors wrote
a letter requesting more ``flexibility to manage their TANF programs''
and ``increased waiver authority.''
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This is exactly what the administration's waiver proposal does. For 2
years now, instead of working with us to create jobs, instead of
passing middle class tax cuts, instead of passing the Violence Against
Women Act, instead of passing responsible deficit reduction and to help
us to try to get the economy moving again, the urgent priorities that
we should be working on right now, this majority has continually put
forward politically motivated resolutions.
You know, I would just say to you that the American people cannot
afford a do-nothing Republican Congress that refuses to act on issues
critical to the middle class, critical to small businesses, critical to
farmers, critical to women. They need to expect better leadership from
us.
I urge my colleagues to oppose this resolution. We need to get work
done, not politically motivated resolutions.
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. I am pleased to yield 3 minutes to the chairman
of the Science Committee, the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Hall).
Mr. HALL. Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong support of the rule and H.R.
3409, the Stop the War on Coal Act. This may sound a little strange to
a guy from an oil and gas State, but we have an awful lot of coal.
This bill takes a number of simple, commonsense, and long overdue
steps to rein in the Obama administration's out-of-control EPA, which
is waging all-out war on American energy. Coal is at the heart of that
war. Anyone who fails to believe such a war exists should speak to the
people of Mount Pleasant, Texas, in my congressional district.
EPA's Cross-State Air Pollution Rule threatened 500 jobs at two coal-
fired power plants in Mount Pleasant. Fortunately, the courts threw out
this rule in August after finding that EPA went well beyond the law in
its efforts to regulate coal out of existence.
We know EPA will go back to the drawing board. H.R. 3409 adds needed
protections for any future proposal and, in doing so, protects jobs not
only in my State, but in coal-producing States and coal-using States
all around the country.
The bill also blocks future efforts to attack coal through other
regulations, most notably the EPA's effort to enact economywide
restrictions on greenhouse gas emissions. These rules are based on
shaky science and would raise the cost of energy for all Americans.
They should never see the light of day.
I want to mention my support for two amendments made in order under
this rule. They will be offered by members of the Science, Space, and
Technology Committee, which I chair. These amendments address serious
problems with EPA science that the committee highlighted during the
112th Congress; specifically, Congressman Dan Benishek's amendment that
requires that an analysis of the cost of regulations explicitly
evaluate the potential negative health effects of regulations. Energy
and Environment Subcommittee Chairman Andy Harris' amendment would
require that the scientific data EPA uses to justify its regulations is
peer reviewed and made publicly available.
These amendments reinforce and strengthen the transparency and
openness provisions in H.R. 3409. I urge Members to support these
amendments, the rule, and the underlying bill as well.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 3 minutes to the
gentleman from Texas (Mr. Doggett).
Mr. DOGGETT. Mr. Speaker, as one who believes in the value of work, I
voted for the 1996 law to transform welfare to workfare. Now as the
ranking Democrat on the subcommittee overseeing this law, I want to
strengthen reform and assure that every able-bodied American who can
work is working, you know, people like Mitt Romney's father, who long
ago was on a form of welfare himself before he became wealthy. Those
are the kind of people that should be working.
Unfortunately, Republicans talk work for everyone else, but when it
comes to doing the work here in Congress, well, they don't quite
measure up to it.
It's just like the expired Federal education law. They have been in
power here for over 20 months, and we wouldn't need any changes or
waivers in the law if they'd done their job to renew workfare.
The real question here is not whether we emphasize work but how, how
we achieve the most effective ways to get more people working.
This administration has simply responded to Republican Governors and
some Democrats who are seeking more flexibility and less bureaucratic
paperwork, who sought better ways to get more people working.
Even the Republican staff director who wrote the original 1996 reform
law and who recently surveyed 42 State TANF directors says that these
Republican attacks are ``exaggerated.''
So, why in the world would Republicans be here today, when there is
so much other work that this Congress has failed to do, presenting what
is really an antiwork resolution masquerading as prowork?
Well, I think it's because particularly during this week, such a very
difficult and troubling week for Mitt Romney, they're a little
desperate. They think they can hoodwink enough Americans to turn on
their neighbors by falsely dividing us--dividing us between makers and
takers, between manufacturers and moochers, between producers and
parasites. That is not America.
Whenever they bump into an inconvenient fact like what actually is
involved in this legislation, they just ignore it. They have made this
Congress largely a fact-free zone.
When confronted with reality, they hold up those signs that say
``believe.'' They left a word off. It really should say ``make
believe,'' because that's what's at stake here, the fantasy that they
bring us on all aspects of this measure. Fantasy is a mighty poor way
to govern America.
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I'm glad to yield 2 minutes to the
gentleman from Florida (Mr. Deutch).
Mr. DEUTCH. Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to the rule and the
underlying bill, the polluters' bill of rights.
I understand that my Republican friends are trying to improve the
coal industry's outlook, and I imagine that most industries would
benefit if Congress simply eliminated their obligation to help keep the
public safe.
We hear a lot about the immorality of leaving our children with
mountains of debt, and I completely agree with that. I support measures
to responsibly reduce the debt. But bills like this one are piling
another form of debt on our children. We are leaving them to deal with
the consequences of letting coal companies pollute the air that our
children breathe and the water that they drink.
Our failure to take comprehensive action on global climate change is
already profoundly immoral. It is a disgrace that we refuse to
sacrifice on behalf of our grandchildren. I fail to understand the
perverse notion that my colleagues on the other side share that somehow
global climate change is a laughable matter that we can sweep under the
rug instead of an unprecedented threat to the health of our children
and to the security of our Nation.
How many more millions of tons of greenhouse gases would my
Republican colleagues like in our atmosphere before they're concerned?
How much less
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polar ice? How many more cases of preventable cancer should American
children develop?
I offered an amendment to slow down the bill's assault on America's
environmental laws until scientists could verify that what this
Congress seeks to accomplish would not increase cases of preventable
cancer among our most vulnerable: children, seniors, and those with
chronic conditions.
Regrettably, the House will not even have a chance to vote. It must
be too inconvenient for my colleagues to have to tell their
constituents that they value these coal companies above sick children.
Well, I've got news for my colleagues. Ignoring the consequences of
our actions does not make them go away. These rules are in place
because the American people demand safe air and water. They expect the
electricity that powers their homes is not produced in a way that makes
tumors grow in their loved ones.
We should focus on building a Nation, a secure economic future in
this Nation. That means investing in clean energy industries instead of
catering to special interests.
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Moving forward with clean energy is the least we can do. Passing this
bill is the worst thing we can do. I urge my colleagues to reject the
bill.
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. I reserve the balance of my time.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, we have no further requests for time,
except one more. And we want to defeat the previous question.
I'm going to offer an amendment which proposes that Congress will not
adjourn until the President passes the middle class tax cut into law.
Additionally, I want to make in order the amendment that will extend
the renewable energy tax credit. These tax credits are directly
responsible for creating more American jobs. Allowing them to expire
will mean fewer manufacturing jobs at home and more jobs sent overseas
to China. We cannot afford to leave town without extending them.
To discuss our proposal, I am pleased to yield 2 minutes to the
gentleman from Iowa (Mr. Boswell).
(Mr. BOSWELL asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. BOSWELL. Mr. Speaker, today is Thursday, September 20. And
tomorrow, I understand, the House is set to adjourn until after the
election. Tomorrow, the House is set to leave town without finishing
the work that the American people sent us here to do.
Now, I have no objection to increasing domestic energy production,
and I think an all-of-the-above approach is a rational approach to
take. However, I rise against this rule. I rise in opposition to this
rule because two amendments that I had offered to the bill were not
made in order by the Rules Committee. The amendments I offered were on
substantive policy that my constituents are calling for, and I am here
to stand up for and represent my constituents in Iowa--and, I might
add, across the Nation.
One amendment would extend the wind production tax credit. Wind
energy plays a significant role in electricity generation in the State
of Iowa and many other States--for us about 20 percent--and the
manufacturing of wind turbine components in Iowa has brought high-tech
manufacturing jobs to my district. The fact that the House is set to
adjourn until after the election while this industry is being forced to
lay off workers because of Congress' inaction is shameful. It's
something we should not do. Yesterday, it was announced we would be
laying off 400, and more to come.
Another amendment I offered would have allowed the House to finally
vote on a farm bill. But once again the Republican leadership of the
House stopped the House from voting on a farm bill. Let me say that
again: The House Republican leadership is preventing this House from
working its will on a farm bill.
Mr. Speaker, apparently some House Republicans believe standing up
for our farmers and ranchers across the country is not worthy of this
House. This is a disgrace. Inaction on a farm bill is creating the
market uncertainty that the House Republicans so often decry, and this
uncertainty will only get more complicated as the House continues to
kick the can down the road.
So, once again, I rise in opposition to this rule. And I call on my
colleagues to defeat the previous question so that we can amend the
rule and proceed to a debate that will result in the House actually
doing the work our constituents sent us here to do.
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Speaker, I have some empathy for the
gentleman from Iowa, but I will have to say that one of the reasons
that those amendments were not made in order was, quite frankly,
because both of them were nongermane to the base bill, and that becomes
a concept.
One of the reasons that Ms. Slaughter speaks on wishing to stay here
until we pass middle class tax cuts--and I think I can approve of that
because, actually, when we considered H.R. 8, the Rules Committee took
an extraordinary step of waiving the rules of the House--including
CutGo and other budget-related points of order--so an amendment could
be given by Mr. Levin, and he could have an opportunity to present that
amendment. That amendment was debated, and it was rejected on a
bipartisan vote of the House in August.
Unlike the amendment, then H.R. 8 passed the House with a bipartisan
vote, which means the House has voted for a middle class tax cut. We
have done our duty. It is one of the myriad of bills that is sitting
over on the Senate side waiting for them to do something so that we can
proceed to a conference committee.
So I actually approve of what the gentlelady from New York is saying
because basically we've done it, and we did it on August 1.
With that, I reserve the balance of my time.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I do have a late entry here. I would like
to yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Andrews).
(Mr. ANDREWS asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. ANDREWS. I thank my friend for yielding.
Mr. Speaker, 102 days from today, every American who pays income
taxes will face a substantial tax increase; 102 days from now, the
estate plans of small business people will be blown asunder because of
the changes in the Tax Code that will automatically occur; 102 days
from now, workers at defense plants, medical research institutions, and
other very important functions in our country will lose their jobs
because of an across-the-board spending cut called a sequester. The
response of the majority to this looming problem is to leave town.
Now, I must confess that, given the majority's propensity to end the
Medicare guarantee and provide tax cuts to millionaires, perhaps them
leaving town does have a certain appeal. But under these
circumstances--where there is a significant problem in our country,
where farmers all across the country have no idea under what rules they
will be running their farms and their businesses because a farm bill
that received broad support from Democrats and Republicans on the
Agriculture Committee has not made its way to the floor--in light of
all this trouble, amidst all the stress of the American economy, the
plan for the majority is to leave town tomorrow until after the
election. This is irresponsible in two ways.
First, I think we have a duty to act before the election so the
voters of this country can assess where we stand and whom they want to
have represent them in the years ahead. And second, the problems of
American families will not be put on hold during the 6 or 7 weeks that
we're back in our districts politicking. Then we'll all come back after
the election--many people will be in what's called a lame duck status
where they're not coming back--and we will compress all of these
decisions into 5 or 6 weeks. This is just not the proper way to
legislate. It's not the proper way to govern our affairs.
So I would urge Members to oppose the previous question, which has
the effect of putting on the floor legislation that would guarantee a
tax cut, tax relief for middle class people, as well as the creation of
jobs in our country because of clean energy. Now, you can agree or
disagree with those propositions, but I don't think any of us disagrees
with the proposition that in the face of these very real crises for the
American people, we're just getting on
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the plane, getting on the bus, getting on the train and leaving town.
It's the wrong thing to do.
We should oppose the previous question and vote ``no.''
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. I reserve the balance of my time.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, may I inquire through my colleague if he
has any other requests for time?
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. I actually don't think I have any other speakers.
I may be surprised in the next few minutes, as will be the case.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. It happens.
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. It happens, yes.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Then I am prepared to close, and I yield myself such
time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, I sincerely regret that today we will consider
legislation that has no chance of becoming law. Our constituents send
us here with an expectation that we will work together and deliver
results. That doesn't mean that they expect us to abandon all of our
principles, but it does mean that while we engage in fierce debate, we
do so in the spirit of collaboration and at the end of the day we come
together to produce bipartisan legislation that will address the major
issues that are facing our country.
For the last 2 years, the majority has actively avoided such
bipartisan legislating, and as a result we face a mounting number of
issues that demand our attention. Sadly, none of those pressing issues
are addressed in today's bills.
So I urge my colleagues to oppose today's rule and the underlying
legislation. It is time we put aside political games and address the
pressing national issues facing this country.
Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to insert the text of the
amendment in the Record, along with extraneous material, immediately
prior to the vote on the previous question.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the
gentlewoman from New York?
There was no objection.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. I urge my colleagues to vote ``no'' on the previous
question, to defeat the previous question, and I urge a ``no'' vote on
the rule.
I yield back the balance of my time.
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Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may
consume.
In our discussion of this particular rule today, we have, as
oftentimes is the case, wandered far and wide.
I would point out to one of the speakers who was just up there saying
that we should stay here doing the sequestration act, dealing with the
sequestration issue, the House did. On May 10, we passed the
Sequestration Replacement Act. Once again, it's sitting over in the
Senate. To wait here until we do the middle class tax cuts, we did that
in August. It's waiting over on the Senate to do something.
We have issues that are significant in the two that are before us. If
we're talking about welfare in some particular way, whether the rule
that was made coming out of the executive branch was appropriate or
not, we could go back and say why it was done. It is true the
President, in 1997 and once again in 1998, said he would not have
supported the legislation that created the system that we have. It's
also true that in The Washington Post editorial, they made comments
that said the Obama administration is waiving the Federal requirement
that ensures a portion of able-bodied TANF recipients must engage in
work activities. If this is not getting welfare reform, it's difficult
to imagine what would be.
But even if the substance of that was inaccurate, the fact that it
was done by regulation, by rulemaking coming from the administrative
branch, puts us in suspect category. Rules should not be establishing
what is our priority; it should be laws made on this body. If you want
to change it, if you want to do waivers, it should be coming from this
particular body.
The other half of it deals with coal. This is a Nation with the
largest coal reserves in the world. We have 500 years of potential
electricity at cheap rates coming from coal. A coal plant today is as
much as 99 percent cleaner than one built 40 years ago, and yet rules
and regulations that have been promulgated or are being threatened to
promulgate are one of those that impede the ability of building new
plants.
There is no valid reason why the American coal industry should be
suffering at the hands of overzealous Washington regulators or why
workers are being laid off in the Midwest, in Virginia, Pennsylvania,
Ohio, West Virginia, and other places; although, today, it was again
announced that there will be 1,200 coal mining jobs that will be
eliminated across central Appalachia by a company, one company.
And once again, there is the kind of unfair regulations that are
taking place. It is true that H.R. 3409 is cobbled together with other
bills that have passed this body, but I would remind you that each of
those four that have already passed this body were passed on a
bipartisan vote, with anywhere between 16 and 37 Democrats, depending
on the bill, joining with Republicans to pass those. And, when put
together in a package with H.R. 3409, presents a good package to make
sure that we are in favor of cheap energy, energy that will drive and
build our economy and provide jobs for those who need those particular
jobs.
I went historically in a while earlier because I wanted to say that
we have faced these types of situations in the past, where the question
was: Should the President make the rules or regulations or should
Congress actually pass legislation?
The President to whom I referred ended his tenure in a somewhat
bitter way, refusing to work with Congress, instead, trying to go
around Congress, which produced, at that time, a historic deadlock
between the Presidency and the Congress.
This is a Nation of laws. Laws are made here. It's not a Nation of
rules. And if the rules and regulations are going to have the effect on
the future and are going to have an effect on the American people, they
should not be done by executive fiat. Whether you like them or not,
they should not be done in that manner. It should be done here
legislatively.
That's the purpose of both of these issues that are tied together in
this rule; that's the thread that comes together--whether or not we
actually believe Congress should be doing the job of creating the
standards and the rules, or we're willing to simply abrogate our
responsibility, our power, our options to some other body.
And I would hope that as Congress we would be very careful and
considerate about what our responsibility is, and we would take very
seriously any encroachment on the role of law that is given to us by
the Constitution. It was the vision of the Founding Fathers that this
should be the body that makes those decisions, not the executive
branch.
This is a good bill, these are good bills, and this is a fair rule.
We haven't even talked about the amendments that were made in order,
but they do cover, in fact, we did have one statement about the
amendment that was not made in order, and I half wish--the Member is no
longer here, but his issue of concern is covered in another amendment
that is made in order and will be discussed on this floor.
So it is a fair rule. It will have a vigorous debate. And there are
two good bills that would be brought before this body that I hope
sincerely pass. I do urge their adoption, and I sincerely urge the
adoption of this rule that will move us forward.
The material previously referred to by Ms. Slaughter is as follows:
An Amendment to H. Res. 788 Offered by Ms. Slaughter of New York
At the end of the resolution, add the following new
sections:
Sec. 8. Immediately upon adoption of this resolution, the
House shall proceed to the consideration in the House of the
resolution (H. Res. 746) prohibiting the consideration of a
concurrent resolution providing for adjournment or
adjournment sine die unless a law is enacted to provide for
the extension of certain expired or expiring tax provisions
that apply to middle-income taxpayers if called up by
Representative Slaughter of New York or her designee. All
points of order against the resolution and against its
consideration are waived.
Sec. 9. Immediately after House Resolution 746 is no longer
pending, Speaker shall, pursuant to clause 2(b) of rule
XVIII, declare the House resolved into the Committee of the
Whole House on the state of the Union for consideration of
the bill (H.R. 15) to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986
to provide tax relief to middle-class families. All points of
order against consideration of
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the bill are waived. General debate shall be confined to the
bill and shall not exceed one hour equally divided and
controlled by the chair and ranking minority member of the
Committee on Ways and Means. After general debate the bill
shall be considered for amendment under the five-minute rule.
All points of order against provisions in the bill are
waived. At the conclusion of consideration of the bill for
amendment the Committee shall rise and report the bill to the
House with such amendments as may have been adopted. The
previous question shall be considered as ordered on the bill
and amendments thereto to final passage without intervening
motion except one motion to recommit with or without
instructions. If the Committee of the Whole rises and reports
that it has come to no resolution on the bill, then on the
next legislative day the House shall, immediately after the
third daily order of business under clause 1 of rule XIV,
resolve into the Committee of the Whole for further
consideration of the bill.
Sec. 10. Clause 1(c) of rule XIX shall not apply to the
consideration of the bill specified in section 9 of this
resolution.
Sec. 11. Notwithstanding any other provision of this
resolution, the amendment printed in section 12 shall be in
order as though printed as the last amendment in the report
of the Committee on Rules accompanying this resolution if
offered by Representative Boswell of Iowa or a designee. That
amendment shall be debatable for one hour equally divided and
controlled by the proponent and an opponent.
Sec. 12 The Amendment referred to in section 11 is as
follows:
At the end of the Rules Committee Print, add the following
new title:
TITLE VI--EXTENSION OF RENEWABLE ENERGY CREDIT SEC. 601.
EXTENSION OF RENEWABLE ENERGY CREDIT.
(a) Wind.--Paragraph (1) of section 45(d) of the Internal
Revenue Code of 1986 is amended by striking ``January 1,
2013'' and inserting ``January 1, 2017''. (b) Biomass,
Geothermal, Small Irrigation, Landfill Gas, Trash, and
Hydropower.--Each of the following provisions of section
45(d) of such Code is amended by striking ``January 1, 2014''
and inserting ``January 1, 2017'':
(1) Clauses (i) and (ii) of paragraph (2)(A).
(2) Clauses (i) (I) and (ii) of paragraph (3)(A).
(3) Paragraph (4).
(4) Paragraph (6).
(5) Paragraph (7).
(6) Subparagraphs (A) and (B) of paragraph (9).
(7) Subparagraph (B) of paragraph (11).
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(The information contained herein was provided by the
Republican Minority on multiple occasions throughout the
110th and 111th Congresses.)
The Vote on the Previous Question: What It Really Means
This vote, the vote on whether to order the previous
question on a special rule, is not merely a procedural vote.
A vote against ordering the previous question is a vote
against the Republican majority agenda and a vote to allow
the opposition, at least for the moment, to offer an
alternative plan. It is a vote about what the House should be
debating.
Mr. Clarence Cannon's Precedents of the House of
Representatives (VI, 308-311), describes the vote on the
previous question on the rule as ``a motion to direct or
control the consideration of the subject before the House
being made by the Member in charge.'' To defeat the previous
question is to give the opposition a chance to decide the
subject before the House. Cannon cites the Speaker's ruling
of January 13, 1920, to the effect that ``the refusal of the
House to sustain the demand for the previous question passes
the control of the resolution to the opposition'' in order to
offer an amendment. On March 15, 1909, a member of the
majority party offered a rule resolution. The House defeated
the previous question and a member of the opposition rose to
a parliamentary inquiry, asking who was entitled to
recognition. Speaker Joseph G. Cannon (R-Illinois) said:
``The previous question having been refused, the gentleman
from New York, Mr. Fitzgerald, who had asked the gentleman to
yield to him for an amendment, is entitled to the first
recognition.''
Because the vote today may look bad for the Republican
majority they will say ``the vote on the previous question is
simply a vote on whether to proceed to an immediate vote on
adopting the resolution . . . [and] has no substantive
legislative or policy implications whatsoever.'' But that is
not what they have always said. Listen to the Republican
Leadership Manual on the Legislative Process in the United
States House of Representatives, (6th edition, page 135).
Here's how the Republicans describe the previous question
vote in their own manual: ``Although it is generally not
possible to amend the rule because the majority Member
controlling the time will not yield for the purpose of
offering an amendment, the same result may be achieved by
voting down the previous question on the rule. . . . When the
motion for the previous question is defeated, control of the
time passes to the Member who led the opposition to ordering
the previous question. That Member, because he then controls
the time, may offer an amendment to the rule, or yield for
the purpose of amendment.''
In Deschler's Procedure in the U.S. House of
Representatives, the subchapter titled ``Amending Special
Rules'' states: ``a refusal to order the previous question on
such a rule [a special rule reported from the Committee on
Rules] opens the resolution to amendment and further
debate.'' (Chapter 21, section 21.2) Section 21.3 continues:
``Upon rejection of the motion for the previous question on a
resolution reported from the Committee on Rules, control
shifts to the Member leading the opposition to the previous
question, who may offer a proper amendment or motion and who
controls the time for debate thereon.''
Clearly, the vote on the previous question on a rule does
have substantive policy implications. It is one of the only
available tools for those who oppose the Republican
majority's agenda and allows those with alternative views the
opportunity to offer an alternative plan.
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time
and move the previous question on the resolution.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on ordering the previous
question.
The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that
the ayes appeared to have it.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.
The yeas and nays were ordered.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to clause 9 of rule XX, the Chair
will reduce to 5 minutes the minimum time for any electronic vote on
the question of adoption.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 238,
nays 179, not voting 12, as follows:
[Roll No. 587]
YEAS--238
Adams
Aderholt
Alexander
Amash
Amodei
Austria
Bachmann
Bachus
Barletta
Bartlett
Barton (TX)
Bass (NH)
Benishek
Berg
Biggert
Bilbray
Bilirakis
Bishop (UT)
Black
Blackburn
Bonner
Bono Mack
Boren
Boustany
Brady (TX)
Brooks
Broun (GA)
Buchanan
Bucshon
Buerkle
Burgess
Burton (IN)
Calvert
Camp
Campbell
Canseco
Cantor
Capito
Carney
Carter
Cassidy
Chabot
Chaffetz
Coble
Coffman (CO)
Cole
Conaway
Cravaack
Crawford
Crenshaw
Culberson
Denham
Dent
DesJarlais
Diaz-Balart
Dold
Donnelly (IN)
Dreier
Duffy
Duncan (SC)
Duncan (TN)
Ellmers
Emerson
Farenthold
Fincher
Fitzpatrick
Flake
Fleischmann
Fleming
Flores
Forbes
Fortenberry
Foxx
Franks (AZ)
Frelinghuysen
Gardner
Garrett
Gerlach
Gibbs
Gibson
Gingrey (GA)
Gohmert
Goodlatte
Gosar
Gowdy
Graves (GA)
Graves (MO)
Griffin (AR)
Griffith (VA)
Grimm
Guinta
Guthrie
Hall
Hanna
Harper
Harris
Hartzler
Hastings (WA)
Hayworth
Heck
Hensarling
Herger
Herrera Beutler
Huelskamp
Huizenga (MI)
Hultgren
Hunter
Hurt
Issa
Johnson (OH)
Johnson, Sam
Jones
Jordan
Kelly
King (IA)
King (NY)
Kingston
Kinzinger (IL)
Kline
Labrador
Lamborn
Lance
Landry
Lankford
Latham
LaTourette
Latta
Lewis (CA)
LoBiondo
Long
Lucas
Luetkemeyer
Lummis
Lungren, Daniel E.
Mack
Manzullo
Marchant
Marino
Matheson
McCarthy (CA)
McCaul
McClintock
McHenry
McIntyre
McKeon
McKinley
McMorris Rodgers
Meehan
Mica
Miller (FL)
Miller (MI)
Miller, Gary
Mulvaney
Murphy (PA)
Myrick
Neugebauer
Noem
Nugent
Nunes
Nunnelee
Olson
Owens
Palazzo
Paul
Paulsen
Pearce
Pence
Petri
Pitts
Platts
Poe (TX)
Pompeo
Posey
Price (GA)
Quayle
Reed
Rehberg
Reichert
Ribble
Rigell
Rivera
Roby
Roe (TN)
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rogers (MI)
Rohrabacher
Rokita
Rooney
Ros-Lehtinen
Roskam
Ross (FL)
Royce
Runyan
Scalise
Schilling
Schmidt
Schock
Schweikert
Scott (SC)
Scott, Austin
Sensenbrenner
Sessions
Shimkus
Shuler
Shuster
Simpson
Smith (NE)
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Southerland
Stearns
Stivers
Stutzman
Terry
Thompson (PA)
Thornberry
Tiberi
Tipton
Turner (NY)
Turner (OH)
Upton
Walberg
Walden
Walsh (IL)
Webster
West
Westmoreland
Whitfield
Wilson (SC)
Wittman
Wolf
Womack
Woodall
Yoder
Young (AK)
Young (FL)
Young (IN)
NAYS--179
Ackerman
Altmire
Andrews
Baca
Baldwin
Barber
Barrow
Bass (CA)
Becerra
Berkley
Berman
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (NY)
Blumenauer
Bonamici
Boswell
Brady (PA)
Braley (IA)
Brown (FL)
Butterfield
Capps
Capuano
Carnahan
Carson (IN)
Castor (FL)
Chandler
Chu
Cicilline
Clarke (MI)
Clarke (NY)
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Cohen
Connolly (VA)
Conyers
Cooper
Costa
Costello
Courtney
Critz
Crowley
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Cuellar
Cummings
Davis (CA)
Davis (IL)
DeFazio
DeGette
DeLauro
Deutch
Dicks
Dingell
Doggett
Doyle
Edwards
Ellison
Engel
Eshoo
Farr
Fattah
Frank (MA)
Fudge
Garamendi
Gonzalez
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Gutierrez
Hahn
Hanabusa
Hastings (FL)
Heinrich
Higgins
Himes
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Hirono
Hochul
Holden
Holt
Honda
Hoyer
Israel
Jackson Lee (TX)
Johnson (GA)
Johnson, E. B.
Kaptur
Keating
Kildee
Kind
Kissell
Kucinich
Langevin
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Lee (CA)
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lipinski
Loebsack
Lofgren, Zoe
Lowey
Lujan
Lynch
Maloney
Markey
Matsui
McCarthy (NY)
McCollum
McDermott
McGovern
McNerney
Meeks
Michaud
Miller (NC)
Miller, George
Moore
Moran
Murphy (CT)
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal
Olver
Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor (AZ)
Pelosi
Perlmutter
Peters
Peterson
Pingree (ME)
Polis
Price (NC)
Quigley
Rahall
Rangel
Reyes
Richardson
Richmond
Rothman (NJ)
Roybal-Allard
Ruppersberger
Rush
Ryan (OH)
Sanchez, Linda T.
Sanchez, Loretta
Sarbanes
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schrader
Schwartz
Scott (VA)
Scott, David
Serrano
Sewell
Sherman
Sires
Slaughter
Smith (WA)
Stark
Sutton
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Tierney
Tonko
Towns
Tsongas
Van Hollen
Velazquez
Visclosky
Walz (MN)
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Watt
Waxman
Welch
Wilson (FL)
Woolsey
Yarmuth
NOT VOTING--12
Akin
Filner
Gallegly
Granger
Jackson (IL)
Jenkins
Johnson (IL)
Renacci
Ross (AR)
Ryan (WI)
Speier
Sullivan
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Messrs. GEORGE MILLER of California, DAVIS of Illinois, and TONKO
changed their vote from ``yea'' to ``nay.''
Messrs. GINGREY of Georgia and LABRADOR changed their vote from
``nay'' to ``yea.''
So the previous question was ordered.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
Stated against:
Mr. CARNEY. Mr. Speaker, during rollcall vote No. 587 on Previous
Question H. Res. 788, I mistakenly recorded my vote as ``yea'' when I
should have voted ``nay.''
I ask unanimous consent that my statement appear in the Record
following rollcall vote No. 587.
Mr. FILNER. Mr. Speaker, on rollcall 587, I was away from the Capitol
due to prior commitments to my constituents. Had I been present, I
would have voted ``nay.''
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Quayle). The question is on the
resolution.
The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that
the ayes appeared to have it.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.
The yeas and nays were ordered.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. This is a 5-minute vote.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 233,
nays 182, not voting 14, as follows:
[Roll No. 588]
YEAS--233
Adams
Aderholt
Alexander
Amash
Amodei
Austria
Bachmann
Bachus
Barletta
Bartlett
Barton (TX)
Bass (NH)
Benishek
Berg
Biggert
Bilbray
Bilirakis
Bishop (UT)
Black
Blackburn
Bonner
Bono Mack
Boustany
Brady (TX)
Brooks
Broun (GA)
Buchanan
Bucshon
Buerkle
Burgess
Burton (IN)
Calvert
Camp
Campbell
Canseco
Cantor
Capito
Carter
Cassidy
Chabot
Chaffetz
Chandler
Coble
Coffman (CO)
Cole
Conaway
Cravaack
Crawford
Crenshaw
Culberson
Denham
Dent
DesJarlais
Diaz-Balart
Dold
Dreier
Duffy
Duncan (SC)
Duncan (TN)
Ellmers
Emerson
Farenthold
Fincher
Fitzpatrick
Flake
Fleischmann
Fleming
Flores
Forbes
Fortenberry
Foxx
Franks (AZ)
Frelinghuysen
Gardner
Garrett
Gerlach
Gibbs
Gibson
Gingrey (GA)
Gohmert
Goodlatte
Gosar
Gowdy
Graves (GA)
Graves (MO)
Griffin (AR)
Griffith (VA)
Grimm
Guinta
Guthrie
Hall
Hanna
Harper
Harris
Hartzler
Hastings (WA)
Hayworth
Heck
Hensarling
Herger
Herrera Beutler
Huelskamp
Huizenga (MI)
Hultgren
Hunter
Hurt
Issa
Johnson (OH)
Johnson, Sam
Jones
Jordan
Kelly
King (IA)
King (NY)
Kingston
Kinzinger (IL)
Kline
Labrador
Lamborn
Lance
Landry
Lankford
Latham
LaTourette
Latta
Lewis (CA)
LoBiondo
Long
Lucas
Luetkemeyer
Lummis
Lungren, Daniel E.
Mack
Manzullo
Marchant
Marino
McCarthy (CA)
McCaul
McClintock
McHenry
McIntyre
McKeon
McKinley
McMorris Rodgers
Meehan
Mica
Miller (FL)
Miller (MI)
Miller, Gary
Mulvaney
Murphy (PA)
Myrick
Neugebauer
Noem
Nugent
Nunes
Nunnelee
Olson
Owens
Palazzo
Paul
Paulsen
Pearce
Pence
Petri
Pitts
Platts
Poe (TX)
Pompeo
Price (GA)
Quayle
Reed
Rehberg
Reichert
Ribble
Rigell
Rivera
Roby
Roe (TN)
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rogers (MI)
Rohrabacher
Rokita
Rooney
Ros-Lehtinen
Roskam
Ross (FL)
Royce
Runyan
Scalise
Schilling
Schmidt
Schock
Schweikert
Scott (SC)
Scott, Austin
Sensenbrenner
Sessions
Shimkus
Shuler
Shuster
Simpson
Smith (NE)
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Southerland
Stearns
Stivers
Stutzman
Terry
Thompson (PA)
Thornberry
Tiberi
Tipton
Turner (NY)
Turner (OH)
Upton
Walberg
Walden
Walsh (IL)
Webster
West
Westmoreland
Whitfield
Wilson (SC)
Wolf
Womack
Woodall
Yoder
Young (AK)
Young (FL)
Young (IN)
NAYS--182
Ackerman
Altmire
Andrews
Baca
Baldwin
Barber
Barrow
Bass (CA)
Becerra
Berkley
Berman
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (NY)
Blumenauer
Bonamici
Boren
Boswell
Brady (PA)
Braley (IA)
Brown (FL)
Butterfield
Capps
Capuano
Carnahan
Carney
Carson (IN)
Castor (FL)
Chu
Cicilline
Clarke (MI)
Clarke (NY)
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Cohen
Connolly (VA)
Conyers
Cooper
Costa
Costello
Courtney
Critz
Crowley
Cuellar
Cummings
Davis (CA)
Davis (IL)
DeFazio
DeGette
DeLauro
Deutch
Dicks
Dingell
Doggett
Donnelly (IN)
Doyle
Edwards
Ellison
Engel
Eshoo
Farr
Fattah
Frank (MA)
Fudge
Garamendi
Gonzalez
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Gutierrez
Hahn
Hanabusa
Hastings (FL)
Higgins
Himes
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Hirono
Hochul
Holden
Holt
Honda
Hoyer
Israel
Jackson Lee (TX)
Johnson (GA)
Johnson, E. B.
Kaptur
Keating
Kildee
Kind
Kissell
Kucinich
Langevin
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Lee (CA)
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lipinski
Loebsack
Lofgren, Zoe
Lowey
Lujan
Lynch
Maloney
Markey
Matheson
Matsui
McCarthy (NY)
McCollum
McDermott
McGovern
McNerney
Meeks
Michaud
Miller (NC)
Miller, George
Moore
Moran
Murphy (CT)
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal
Olver
Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor (AZ)
Pelosi
Perlmutter
Peters
Peterson
Pingree (ME)
Polis
Price (NC)
Quigley
Rahall
Rangel
Reyes
Richardson
Richmond
Rothman (NJ)
Roybal-Allard
Ruppersberger
Rush
Ryan (OH)
Sanchez, Linda T.
Sanchez, Loretta
Sarbanes
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schrader
Schwartz
Scott (VA)
Scott, David
Serrano
Sewell
Sherman
Sires
Slaughter
Smith (WA)
Stark
Sutton
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Tierney
Tonko
Towns
Tsongas
Van Hollen
Velazquez
Visclosky
Walz (MN)
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Watt
Waxman
Welch
Wilson (FL)
Wittman
Woolsey
Yarmuth
NOT VOTING--14
Akin
Filner
Gallegly
Granger
Heinrich
Jackson (IL)
Jenkins
Johnson (IL)
Posey
Renacci
Ross (AR)
Ryan (WI)
Speier
Sullivan
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So the resolution was agreed to.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.
Stated against:
Mr. FILNER. Mr. Speaker, on rollcall 588, I was away from the Capitol
due to prior commitments to my constituents. Had I been present, I
would have voted ``nay.''
personal explanation
Mr. JOHNSON of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, on Thursday, September 20, 2012
I had a delay on my American Airlines flight 1342 from Chicago to
Washington, D.C. due to mechanical difficulties. I missed procedural
votes on ordering the Previous Question and the Adoption of the rule
for Welfare Work Requirements and Stop the War on Coal.
Had I been present, I would have voted ``yea'' on the above stated
bills.
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