[Congressional Record Volume 158, Number 123 (Thursday, September 13, 2012)]
[House]
[Pages H5956-H5969]
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NATIONAL SECURITY AND JOB PROTECTION ACT
Mr. GARRETT. Mr. Speaker, pursuant to House Resolution 778, I call up
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the bill (H.R. 6365) to amend the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit
Control Act of 1985 to replace the sequester established by the Budget
Control Act of 2011, and ask for its immediate consideration in the
House.
The Clerk read the title of the bill.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to House Resolution 778, the bill
is considered read.
The text of the bill is as follows:
H.R. 6365
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of
the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the ``National Security and Job
Protection Act''.
SEC. 2. FINDINGS.
Congress finds the following:
(1) Current law requires that there be across-the-board
cuts, known as a ``sequester'', imposed on January 2, 2013.
The sequester will result in a 10 percent reduction in non-
military personnel programs of the Department of Defense and
an 8 percent reduction in certain domestic programs, such as
the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and border security.
(2) Intended as a mechanism to force action, there is
bipartisan agreement that the sequester going into place
would undercut key responsibilities of the Federal
Government.
(3) As the Administration stated in its fiscal year 2013
budget request, ``[Sequestration] would lead to significant
cuts to critical domestic programs such as education and
research and cuts to defense programs that could undermine
our national security. . . . [C]uts of this magnitude done in
an across-the-board fashion would be devastating both to
defense and non-defense programs.'' (The Budget of the United
States Government, Fiscal Year 2013, p. 24, February 13,
2012).
(4) On March 29, 2012, The House of Representatives passed
H. Con. Res. 112, the budget resolution for fiscal year 2013,
which includes reconciliation instructions directing House
Committees to craft legislation that would achieve the
savings required to replace the sequestration called for in
fiscal year 2013, as established by the Budget Control Act of
2011.
(5) On May 10, 2012, the House of Representatives passed
H.R. 5652, the Sequestration Replacement Reconciliation Act
of 2012, which would replace the $98 billion sequestration of
discretionary spending called for in 2013, as established by
the Budget Control Act of 2011, by making changes in law to
reduce direct spending by $310 billion through fiscal year
2022.
(6) An analysis of the impact of the sequestration prepared
for the Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee found
that if left in place, sequestration would cut the military
to its smallest size since before the Second World War, all
while we are still a nation at war in Afghanistan, facing
increased threats from Iran and North Korea, unrest in the
Middle East, and a rising China.
(7) Major consequences identified by the House Armed
Services Committee include the following:
(A) 200,000 soldiers and Marines separated from service,
bringing our force well below our pre-9/11 levels.
(B) Ability to respond to contingencies in North Korea or
Iran at jeopardy.
(C) The smallest ground force since 1940.
(D) A fleet of fewer than 230 ships, the smallest level
since 1915.
(E) The smallest tactical fighter force in the history of
the Air Force.
(F) Our nuclear triad that has kept the U.S. and 30 of our
allies safe for decades will be in jeopardy.
(G) Reductions of 20 percent in defense civilian personnel.
(H) Two BRAC rounds of base closings. (House Armed Services
Committee memo entitled ``Assessment of Impacts of Budget
Cuts'', September 22, 2011).
(8) Secretary Panetta and the professional military
leadership have also looked at the impact of sequestration
and reached similar conclusions.
(9) Secretary Panetta stated, ``If the maximum
sequestration is triggered, the total cut will rise to about
$1 trillion compared with the FY 2012 plan. The impacts of
these cuts would be devastating for the Department. . .
Facing such large reductions, we would have to reduce the
size of the military sharply. Rough estimates suggest after
ten years of these cuts, we would have the smallest ground
force since 1940, the smallest number of ships since 1915,
and the smallest Air Force in its history.'' (Secretary
Panetta, Letter to Senator John McCain, November 14, 2011).
(10) General Dempsey, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of
Staff, stated, ``[S]equestration leaves me three places to go
to find the additional money: operations, maintenance, and
training. That's the definition of a hollow force.''.
(11) The individual branch service chiefs echoed General
Dempsey:
(A) ``Cuts of this magnitude would be catastrophic to the
military. . .My assessment is that the nation would incur an
unacceptable level of strategic and operational risk.'' -
General Ray T. Odierno, Chief Of Staff, United States Army.
(B) ``A severe and irreversible impact on the Navy's
future'' -Admiral Jonathan W. Greenert, Chief of Naval
Operations.
(C) ``A Marine Corps below the end strength that's
necessary to support even one major contingency,'' -General
James F. Amos, Commandant of the Marine Corps.
(D) ``Even the most thoroughly deliberated strategy may not
be able to overcome dire consequences,'' -General Norton A.
Schwartz, Chief of Staff, United States Air Force (Testimony
of Service Chief before House Armed Services Committee,
November 2, 2011).
(12) According to an analysis by the House Appropriations
Committee, the sequester will also have a significant impact
on non-defense discretionary programs, including the
following:
(A) Automatically reducing Head Start by $650 million,
resulting in 75,000 fewer slots for children in the program.
(B) Automatically reducing the National Institutes of
Health (NIH) by $2.4 billion, an amount equal to nearly half
of total NIH spending on cancer this year.
(C) A reduction of approximately 1,870 Border Patrol Agents
(a reduction of nearly 9 percent of the total number of
agents).
(13) Beyond the negative impacts sequestration will have on
defense readiness, it will also undermine the industrial base
needed to equip our armed forces with the weapons and
technology they need to complete their mission. A study
released by the National Association of Manufacturers
suggests that 1.1 million workers in the supply chain could
be adversely affected, including 3.4 percent of workers in
the aerospace industry, 3.3 percent of the workforce in the
shipbuilding industry and 10 percent of the workers in the
search and navigation equipment industry.
SEC. 3. CONDITIONAL REPLACEMENT FOR FY 2013 SEQUESTER.
(a) Contingent Effective Date.--This section and the
amendments made by it shall take effect upon the enactment
of--
(1) the Act contemplated in section 201 of H. Con. Res. 112
(112th Congress) that achieves at least the deficit reduction
called for in such section for such periods; or
(2) similar legislation that achieves outlay reductions
within five years after the date of enactment that equal or
exceed the outlay reductions flowing from the budget
authority reductions mandated by sections 251A(7)(A) and
251A(8) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control
Act of 1985, as in force immediately before the date of
enactment of this Act, as it applies to direct spending in
the defense function for fiscal year 2013 combined with the
outlay reductions flowing from the amendment to section
251A(7)(A)(i) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit
Control Act of 1985 made by subsection (c) of this section.
(b) Revised 2013 Discretionary Spending Limit.--Paragraph
(2) of section 251(c) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency
Deficit Control Act of 1985 is amended to read as follows:
``(2) with respect to fiscal year 2013, for the
discretionary category, $1,047,000,000,000 in new budget
authority;''.
(c) Discretionary Savings.--Section 251A(7)(A) of the
Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985 is
amended to read as follows:
``(A) Fiscal year 2013.--
``(i) Fiscal year 2013 adjustment.--On January 2, 2013, the
discretionary category set forth in section 251(c)(2) shall
be decreased by $19,104,000,000 in budget authority.
``(ii) Enforcement of discretionary spending caps.--OMB
shall issue a supplemental report consistent with the
requirements set forth in section 254(f)(2) for fiscal year
2013 using the procedures set forth in section 253(f) on
April 15, 2013, to eliminate any discretionary spending
breach of the spending limit set forth in section 251(c)(2)
as adjusted by clause (i), and the President shall issue an
order to eliminate the breach, if any, identified in such
report.''.
(d) Elimination and Conditional Replacement of the Fiscal
Year 2013 Sequestration for Direct Spending.--
(1) Elimination.--Any sequestration order issued by the
President under the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit
Control Act of 1985 to carry out reductions to direct
spending for the defense function (050) for fiscal year 2013
pursuant to section 251A of such Act shall have no force or
effect.
(2) Conditional replacement.--To the extent that
legislation enacted pursuant to section 3(a)(2) achieves
outlay reductions that exceed the outlay reductions flowing
from the budget authority reductions required in section
251A(8) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control
Act of 1985, as in force immediately before the date of
enactment of this Act, the direct spending reductions for the
nonsecurity category for fiscal year 2013 otherwise required
to be ordered pursuant to such section shall be reduced by
that amount, and Congress so designates for such purpose.
SEC. 4. PRESIDENTIAL SUBMISSION.
Not later than October 15, 2012, the President shall
transmit to Congress a legislative proposal that meets the
requirements of section 3(a)(2) of this Act.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Garrett)
and the gentleman from Maryland (Mr. Van Hollen) each will control 30
minutes.
The Chair recognizes the gentleman from New Jersey.
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General Leave
Mr. GARRETT. I ask unanimous consent that all Members have 5
legislative days in which to revise and extend their remarks and
include extraneous material on H.R. 6365.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the
gentleman from New Jersey?
There was no objection.
Mr. GARRETT. At this time, Mr. Speaker, I yield 3\1/2\ minutes to
myself.
Mr. Speaker, under current law, there will be a $110 billion across-
the-board cut known as sequester. It will be imposed in this country on
January 2, 2013, resulting in a 10 percent reduction in the Department
of Defense programs and an 8 percent reduction in certain domestic
programs as well.
In May of this year, the House passed a bill to deal with this. That
was H.R. 5652, the Sequester Replacement Reconciliation Act. What this
legislation would do is it would replace that sequester of 2013 with
commonsense spending cuts and reforms. Unfortunately, we have seen a
lack of leadership both over in the Senate and in the White House. The
Senate has failed to act on this legislation--the Senate, where all
good bills go to die, so too with this, or any sequester replacement
bill. Today the House will once again try to responsibly fix the
sequester.
The National Security and Job Protection Act would ensure our
national security, but at the same time we do that, we'll cut spending.
The National Security and Job Protection Act would do two things
quickly. First, it would turn off the sequester of Congress, enacting
the House-passed reconciliation bill or similar legislation that
achieves equal levels of deficit reduction. Secondly, the National
Security and Job Protection Act would require the President of the
United States to submit to Congress a legislative proposal to replace
the sequester with an alternative no later than October 15 of this
year.
Up until this point, we have seen absolutely no leadership, we have
seen no plan from the President to fix this sequester problem, but yet
there is strong bipartisan agreement that the sequester, as it is right
now, is bad policy and should be re-prioritized. Once again, the
President has failed to lead in this area, failed to put forward a
credible response, failed to put forward a legislative proposal, and
the Senate has failed as well. The result is that in less than 100 days
we will see reductions that our own Secretary Panetta says will hollow
out our Armed Forces and make totally arbitrary reductions in other
spending programs.
Not only has the President failed to lead in this area, he has failed
to put forward a plan. The President has also failed--and this is
important--to submit to Congress a report, as law requires him to do
so, detailing specifically how this administration would implement the
sequester.
Mr. Speaker, after months, literally months, of stonewalling Congress
on how this administration would implement the sequester, Congress now
comes to the floor because we are forced to pass legislation requiring
the President to submit a detailed sequester implementation program.
When that legislation became law, as we said, the President's response
has been no response. Rather than him doing his homework, the President
has simply taken a pass on this matter and instead has provided
Congress with nothing, and he is not even meeting the requirements of
the law. It is an example, I think, to use the President's own word, of
an ``incomplete'' by this President on his report card.
That the President lacks leadership is simply stunning to this Member
and to the American people as well. As I say, the Senate is no better
for failing to respond in this matter. The Senate refuses to take up
any bill or to replace the sequester whatsoever.
Today, Mr. Speaker, we again come here passing legislation to try to
solve this problem, to fix the sequester, to make sure that these
draconian cuts do not go in place now. We're not saying that it has to
be the House-passed bill that passed. We're also asking the President
to put forward his own legislative proposal, for the Senate to act
before the legislation takes effect.
Americans are looking for leadership, and they're getting it from the
House of Representatives today.
With that, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. VAN HOLLEN. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may
consume.
Mr. Speaker, this is really quite a charade we're engaged in here
today on the floor of the House of Representatives. Let's just flash
back a year ago to how we got to this spot.
At that time, our Republican colleagues threatened that the United
States would default on its full faith and credit, that we wouldn't pay
the bills that we already incurred, that this Congress had already
voted for, and threatened to tank the economy unless we passed their
version of the budget, the Ryan budget, the budget that came out of the
House Budget Committee. In order to prevent the United States from
defaulting, everybody got together--the House, the Senate, and the
President--and they passed the Budget Control Act. To hear our
Republican colleagues today, you'd think they had nothing to do with
the Budget Control Act. We heard the chairman of the Budget Committee,
Mr. Ryan, on television the other day not wanting to associate himself
with that.
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The reality is he voted for it. The Speaker of the House said he got
98 percent of what he wanted. Here's the Speaker of the House after we
passed the Budget Control Act:
I got 98 percent of what I wanted. I'm pretty happy.
Now we are faced with the consequences of the Budget Control Act.
What did it do? Two things: It cut spending, discretionary spending
over 10 years by a trillion dollars by putting in spending caps, and it
created a sequester process.
There's agreement in this House that allowing the meat-ax sequester
agreements to take place would really be a stupid thing to do. There's
agreement on that.
The issue is: How do we replace that? How do we achieve a similar
amount of deficit reduction to replace that sequester?
We hear our Republican colleagues say there is no leadership from the
President; they haven't heard any alternatives. That's just not true.
There are lots of alternatives that have been put on the table. They
just don't like the alternatives. And do you know why? Because the
Democratic alternatives to the sequester, and the one put forward by
the President, takes the same balanced approach that's been recommended
by bipartisan commissions.
They say that in order to tackle our deficit we should make
additional cuts. But we should also eliminate a lot of special interest
tax breaks for Big Oil companies. We should ask the very wealthy to go
back to paying a little bit more in taxes, about what they were paying
when President Clinton was President, the last time we balanced our
budget.
The President has submitted that. In fact, a year ago the President
sent down a plan right here on how we could take a balanced approach to
deficit reduction.
Just yesterday in the Rules Committee, on behalf of my Democratic
colleagues, we proposed a substitute that would totally have replaced
the sequester, again through a mix of cuts, cutting some of the
excessive agriculture subsidies, but also raising revenue by cutting
some of the big breaks for Big Oil companies and asking the wealthiest
to chip in a little bit more.
Our Republican colleagues who say they want a big open debate on the
floor here, they denied us even a vote on that amendment. We're not
going to get to vote today on that amendment. Instead, we're voting on
this resolution that, even if we pass it and the Senate passes it and
the President would sign it, it would do nothing about the sequester--
nothing. That's why I said this is a charade.
We had an option to bring to the floor of this House a real
substitute proposal that, if we passed it, it would have removed the
sequester, made sure that there are no cuts to defense and nondefense
under the sequester. We don't get to vote on that today. Instead, we're
voting on something that is totally meaningless.
They say they're going to ask the President to submit a report to the
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Congress. He's already done it. He did it a year ago. They just don't
like it because it takes a balanced approach, because it does ask Big
Oil companies to give up some of their big taxpayer subsidies.
So, Mr. Speaker, let's end the charade. The moment our Republican
colleagues come to the conclusion that it's more important to protect
defense spending than it is to protect special interest tax breaks for
Big Oil companies, we can move on and deal with this in a balanced way,
the same way bipartisan commissions have recommended.
I reserve the balance of my time.
Announcement by the Speaker Pro Tempore
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair would remind all Members that it
is inappropriate to traffic the well while a Member is speaking.
Mr. GARRETT. Mr. Speaker, I yield 5 minutes to the sponsor of the
legislation before us, the gentleman from Florida (Mr. West), who
recognizes that while the President may have presented a plan to this
Congress, that bill went down 414-0, and to the Senate 97-0.
Mr. WEST. I want to thank my colleague for allowing me to come here.
This is not a charade. I served 22 years in the United States
military, and I was part of a reduction in force coming out of Desert
Shield/Desert Storm, and I know what these types of cuts will do to the
military. Also, this is what these types of cuts will do to non-defense
discretionary.
The sequestration will put at risk all that we have
accomplished in education and weaken programs that help
children, serve young families, send young people and adults
to college and make the middle class American Dream possible.
Secretary of Education, Arne Duncan.
Secretary of Defense:
This mechanism of sequestration will force defense cuts
that, in my view, would do catastrophic damage to our
military and the ability to be able to be protect our
country.
I think right now, Mr. Speaker, it's very simple. George Santayana
had a quote back in the 1920s and said:
Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat
it.
At the end of World War I, we cut our military, then came World War
II. At the end of World War II, we cut our military, then came the
Korean War. At the end of the Korean War, we, of course, did the exact
same thing, and, of course, we had to chase communism all over the
world, Vietnam.
As I spoke about earlier, I participated in the RIF after Desert
Shield/Desert Storm. This sequestration does one simple thing: It takes
the Army and Marine Corps down to 1940s levels.
It puts 200,000 of our men and women in uniform on the streets.
It makes our United States Navy go to 1915 levels. Currently, we have
a naval force of 283 warships. It goes down to 230.
It takes our Air Force down to the smallest Air Force we have had in
modern history, when we created the United States Air Force. It cuts
nontactical fighter squadrons.
If you talk to any of our service chiefs, if you listen to the
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs who talks about hollowing out this force,
we should not be doing this at a time when we all see what is happening
in the world right now, when the United States of America has had a
sovereign piece of its territory attacked. We have had an Ambassador
that has lost his life. The message that we are going to send is that
we are going to do nothing?
This legislation says, very simply, we have passed a plan out of the
House. The Senate, if you don't like our plan, come up with your own
plan. Mr. President, you are the Commander in Chief. Come up with a
plan.
One of the things that you learn as a young officer, that if you ever
get into a firefight, you are ever in an ambush, to do nothing means
that people lose their lives. I will not stand here and do nothing at
this time because those are my friends still in uniform; those are my
relatives that are still in uniform.
Now, I did not have the ability to be selected to be on the
supercommittee--maybe because I have only been here as a freshman--but
that does not mean that I will not be an adult and present a solution
that says, very simply, If you don't like what we passed in the House,
then do something. Come up with a plan.
We just heard the debate about the continuing resolution, a
continuing resolution we have been forced into because we have a Senate
that has not passed a budget in close to 3 years. We have a Senate that
has not taken up any appropriations bills.
Well, I will tell you--and I will reach out to my colleagues from the
other side--at least here in the House we have done something. But we
have been forced into a position with this sequestration to say we have
got to come up with a solution. The supercommittee did not meet its
enacted mandate.
Does that mean we're going to stop? Does that mean that we're going
to look at the men and women in uniform and say we will allow this to
happen? Did that mean that we're going to look at other people that are
affected by these non-defense discretionary cuts?
All I'm saying is, with this piece of legislation, those who have
come up with a plan, tell us what you want so that we do not have this
occur. Think about the second- and third-order effects that will come
to this.
We are talking about the people that will be lost in uniform.
Mr. VAN HOLLEN. Will the gentleman yield?
Mr. WEST. No, I will not yield, so please--thank you.
We're talking about the Department of Defense civilian positions that
would be lost. We're talking about the defense industrial base, the
technology that is going to develop the next generation of weapons
systems for our men and women that will be lost. We're talking about a
critical decision for the way ahead for the United States of America.
And I understand what has been said about this balanced approach that
the President sent over in his fiscal year 2013 budget. They had $1.9
trillion of new taxes, but yet it never balances at any time. If it was
such a good plan, such a good budget, no one here took it up. That's my
concern.
This is a last chance for us to be the adults, to do something, to
stave off this sequestration. The House voted. The House sent a piece
of legislation out in May. The House voted on the Sequestration
Transparency Act. We still have not gotten anything.
The Director of the OMB, Mr. Jeffrey Zients, testified before the
Armed Services Committee he has no plan. All he did was sit there and
say that, if you guys would stop with these tax cuts not being brought
up on the rich, then this would not happen.
What is a fair share when the top 1 percent pays close to 37 percent
of taxes? That's not the debate, Mr. Speaker. The debate is what we're
going to do about this sequestration.
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Mr. VAN HOLLEN. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may
consume.
We've heard before that there was this vote on the President's plan
and that it got no votes. We had a vote on a fake President's plan.
When we actually had to vote on the Democratic alternative, which the
White House made clear was closer to their plan than the one that was
put up for a fake vote, it got a huge vote from our Democratic
colleagues.
I would just ask Mr. West to read his own amendment. Because if you
read the bill, it's pretty clear if we were to pass it and the Senate
was to pass it and the President would sign it, it doesn't make the
sequester go away. No, it doesn't make the sequester go away. It calls
for action. In fact, it says the President should submit a plan within
a certain period of time. It's right here in your bill: Presidential
submission not later than October 15, 2012. The President shall
transmit to the Congress a legislative proposal.
Mr. WEST. If the gentleman will yield, it says that it would be
replaced. If you come up with a plan, it will be replaced.
Mr. VAN HOLLEN. Exactly. And reclaiming my time, that's exactly
right. That's exactly what it says. But you tell the President what his
plan has to do. You tell the President that his plan cannot include one
penny of revenue for the purpose of reducing the deficit. In other
words, you say the President's plan has got to look like your plan.
So, Mr. Speaker, the issue here is not whether the President has a
plan or not. He does have a plan. Our Republican colleagues don't like
it because it says that it's more important to protect defense spending
and protect domestic spending like NIH than it is to
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protect special interest tax loopholes. And I see the chairman of the
Armed Services Committee on the floor, and I respect him greatly.
That's the position he took last October. Here's what he said when he
was asked:
``If it came that I had only two choices, one was a tax increase and
one was a cut in defense over and above where we already are, I would
go to strengthen defense.''
That is the President's position. That's the President's position,
Mr. West. He said we need to take a balanced approach to reducing the
deficit. We need to combine cuts. But we also should end special
interest tax breaks for the big oil companies. George Bush himself said
when you've got oil above $50 a barrel, you don't need these ridiculous
incentives to keep them drilling. And we should ask very wealthy
individuals, frankly, to pay the same tax rate that the people who work
for them do; the same effective tax rate. And we should eliminate some
of these ag subsidies.
Now you asked about other proposals. I have a proposal in my hand. I
took it to the House Rules Committee yesterday. It would have totally
replaced the sequester. If we actually voted on this, it would replace
the sequester for defense and nondefense. You know how we do it? We do
it through cuts to big ag subsidies, we do it by eliminating subsidies
for the big oil companies, and yes, we ask people making more than a
million dollars a year to pay a little bit more because we think it's
more important to do that than allow these cuts to defense to take
place and all the consequences you talk about, and we think it's
important to protect investments in places like NIH, people who are
fighting to try and find cures for diseases.
So, Madam Speaker, the issue is not whether we replace the sequester.
The President's got a proposal. I've got a proposal. It's how we do it.
And, again, our Republican colleagues have doubled down on this idea
that you're going to protect every tax break that's out there before
you protect spending on our national defense.
I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. GARRETT. Before we hear from our leader, I yield 15 seconds to
the gentleman from Florida (Mr. West).
Mr. WEST. We voted to cut defense spending by $487 billion. We're
talking about additional. And when you talk about raising these taxes,
Ernst & Young had an independent report that talked about the adverse
ramifications that will come from raising taxes.
Obviously, one thing we fail to understand, small business operators,
subchapter S corps, LLCs, you're going to ruin this economy and more
job losses by raising those taxes.
Mr. VAN HOLLEN. Madam Speaker. I yield myself such time as I may
consume.
I just would ask the gentleman, and I would yield to him for an
answer, whether he means Bain Capital is a small business.
Mr. WEST. I'm not talking about Bain Capital. You said raise taxes on
individuals. I'm talking about personal income.
Mr. VAN HOLLEN. Madam Speaker, reclaiming my time. Mr. West, when Mr.
Romney and Mr. Ryan and all our Republican colleagues cite those
figures about passthroughs, that includes companies like Bain Capital.
It also includes some Fortune 100 companies. The President has put
forward a proposal that says let's act right now to extend tax relief
to 98 percent of the American people and 97 percent of all passthrough
businesses.
It's true we don't think that Bain Capital needs a big additional tax
break when we've got a big deficit that we should deal with in what we
think should be a balanced way.
I reserve the balance of my time.
Announcement by the Speaker pro tempore
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mrs. Miller of Michigan). Members are
reminded to direct their remarks to the Chair.
Mr. GARRETT. I yield 1 minute to our leader, the gentleman from
Virginia (Mr. Cantor).
Mr. CANTOR. I want to thank the gentleman from New Jersey and commend
the gentleman from Florida on bringing this bill forward.
Madam Speaker, the bill before us is not about tax rates. Because I
think that that issue will be resolved one way or another here shortly
in this election. We know that there's a difference between the two
sides. Unfortunately, our counterparts on the other side of the aisle
think it's very important in this tough economy to raise taxes. We
don't believe that, Madam Speaker. The bill before us simply asks the
President to give us his plan for replacing the first year of cuts in
the sequester.
It has been 126 days since we passed our plan to responsibly replace
the sequester with cuts that maintain our fiscal discipline. Our plan
controls unchecked government spending and reduces wasteful and
duplicative programs. But still there has been no action and no
proposal coming from the other side of the Capitol, coming from the
other side of the aisle.
It has been 126 days since the President said he would veto our plan.
But he has failed to put forward an alternative. And the letter that
some of us Republican leaders wrote on July 14 asking the President to
engage with us to come and find a bipartisan solution to the
sequestration, that letter has gone unanswered.
Madam Speaker, inaction carries a very high risk. Instability and
unprecedented political transformation throughout the Middle East, a
civil war in Syria, Iran's dogged pursuit of nuclear weapons in support
for terrorism, as well as challenges posed by a rising China and
geostrategic shifts in the Asia Pacific make maintaining American
military preeminence as important as ever. And the deadly and tragic
attacks on Ambassador Chris Stevens, Foreign Service Information
Management Office Sean Smith, and two other Americans at our consulate
in Benghazi, Libya, make clear that Islamic extremist terrorism remains
a tremendous threat to the Middle East, the United States, and the
international community.
If the cuts in the sequester go forward, they will fundamentally
weaken our current and long-term security and our ability to meet
challenges we're facing. Implementing these cuts will mean reductions
in shipbuilding, aircraft and missiles, shrinking our current force to
levels not seen since before World War II. And that means fewer
defense-related jobs. According to a study conducted by the Aerospace
Industries Association, the job losses will reach 2 million. Let me put
that in perspective. The economy added less than 100,000 jobs last
month. Worse, more people dropped out of the labor force than were
added to it. Under the sequester, unemployment would soar from its
current level up to 9 percent, setting back any progress the economy
has made. According to the same study, the jobs of more than 200,000
Virginians, my own State, are on the line. A small business in my
district called Produce Source Partners, which provides fresh food to
military bases, says the sequester threatens the jobs of their 200
employees. Another small company in Virginia, HI-TEST Laboratories,
could be forced to reduce their staff by as much as 30 percent.
Removing these jobs from the community will shrink the local economy
and set back an already underutilized business zone. That same
predicament faces hundreds of hardworking men and women in towns from
here to California.
Madam Speaker, we are here today asking the President simply to come
forward with a plan. We are here today because the minority has failed
to work with us to find a solution to prevent these cuts that would
hollow out our military and result in massive layoffs.
Madam Speaker, the House has acted. Now we need leadership, Mr.
President.
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Mr. VAN HOLLEN. Madam Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may
consume.
It's hard to know where to begin because--I hope everyone was
listening very carefully. If we allow these spending cuts to take
place, we will lose hundreds of thousands of jobs in Virginia alone.
Thousands of jobs around the country.
You know, I've heard a lot of complaints from our Republican
colleagues about the recovery bill and the fact that we had to do some
emergency spending to prevent the loss of millions of jobs. You know
what? That worked. And here our Republican colleagues here today are
saying that we've got to make sure the spending cuts don't take
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place because if we do, it will result in a lot of lost jobs.
Well, you know what? It takes jobs to build an aircraft carrier,
absolutely. It also creates jobs when you invest in trying to repair
and modernize our roads and our bridges, our infrastructure.
The President submitted a jobs bill more than a year ago to this
House to do exactly that. Let's invest more in modernizing our
infrastructure. We haven't had a single vote on the President's jobs
bill.
So I'm really glad to hear our Republican colleagues say that if we
make these kinds of cuts, it's going to result in lost jobs because you
know what? You are right about that.
The debate today is not about whether we should prevent the sequester
from taking place. As I said, we should. It's how we do that.
I heard again from the Republican leader the President doesn't have a
plan. He has a plan. They just don't like his plan. They don't like his
plan because it takes a balanced approach. It says, you know what? In
addition to cuts, we should also ask people who make more than a
million dollars a year to contribute a little more to reducing our
national deficit and preventing the sequester. We should ask big oil
companies to give up their taxpayer subsidies.
So, the question, Madam Speaker, is not whether we replace the
sequester. There are lots of plans that I've already talked about. The
one in my hand, I offered it yesterday. I can't get a vote on it today.
The issue is not whether; it's how. We should take a balanced
approach.
I yield now 3 minutes to the gentlelady from Pennsylvania (Ms.
Schwartz).
Ms. SCHWARTZ. Madam Speaker, I'm pleased to participate in this
debate in some ways, although I do have to say that this is not really
the kind of honest debate that we need to be having. We should be
having a conversation. We should have been having a conversation well
before now about how we would avoid sequester and do it in a bipartisan
way and do it in a balanced way. That is not what is happening. Right
now what we're seeing is a Republican plan without that kind of
conversation, without that kind of willingness to find common ground or
balanced approach.
The Federal budget is about choices. The choices we make matter. Do
we choose to protect our seniors, to grow the middle class, to make
smart investments in our economy, to be able to reach agreement on
deficit reduction in a way that is fair to the American people or not?
Republicans have made their choices, their priorities, and their
values very clear. Once again, they are wasting America's time playing
politics instead of working to find that common ground.
Sequestration was put in place to push us, to force us in Congress to
work together on a bipartisan, balanced approach to deficit reduction.
We knew it would be tough. We all knew we would not want to implement
sequester, that that would be difficult. But we put on the table what
needed to get done if we couldn't have that kind of conversation, and
we have not yet seen the Republican leadership in the House be willing
to engage in that kind of serious deficit reduction conversation that
takes a balanced approach, respects our obligation to Americans and our
future.
Today's legislation does not move us any closer to achieving the goal
of deficit reduction done in a balanced way, in a fair way, in a real
way. We know we must reduce the Nation's deficit in a balanced and
fiscally responsible manner. We've seen every bipartisan independent
commission tell us that.
It means, and they've told us and we know, that we have to take some
hard hits in spending cuts, that we have to require greater efficiency
and greater effectiveness from all sectors of government, that we must
do this with a balance, with increased revenue. It cannot be done
without it.
In order to build economic growth in our Nation, we need to do all of
this. Deficit reduction means spending cuts, it means increased
revenue, it means a balanced approach if we're going to grow the
economy for now and the future.
The Republicans in Congress have rejected this balanced approach, and
in doing so they have made it clear that they are not serious about
deficit reduction. They are, in fact, willing to add $800 billion to
our deficit with tax breaks to the wealthiest. That's what this
legislation does today. They are adding $2 trillion more in defense
spending, more than the Pentagon has said it needs to keep us safe and
defend our Nation. They're willing to do this at the expense of our
middle class, our seniors, and our economic recovery.
The Republican approach to replacing the sequester means that we will
be less prepared to compete in the 21st century economy. Now is not the
time to make drastic cuts in transportation and infrastructure, in
innovation and clean energy, or in education and health care. And
that's what this would do.
The Republican plan creates false and unfair choices for the American
people.
Let's get serious. Let's have some real solutions. Let's move forward
on deficit reduction and economic growth for the American people.
Mr. GARRETT. Madam Speaker, I would now like to yield 5 minutes to
the gentleman from California (Mr. McKeon) who recognizes that it is
really not a balanced plan to say that we want to raise $3 on every
American in taxes and only $1 in spending reductions, and it is not a
balanced plan to say that we want to pick and choose winners and losers
when it comes to the Tax Code reform.
Mr. McKEON. Madam Speaker, I rise in strong support of the National
Security and Jobs Protection Act offered by Mr. West from Florida. I
have the privilege of serving on the Armed Services Committee with him,
and I thank him for his leadership in bringing this important bill
forward at this time.
It boggles my mind, Madam Speaker, that we are standing here ready to
wipe out our national defense at a time when we turn on the TV in the
morning and see the Middle East erupting, when we see Iran moving
forward on their plans to achieve a nuclear weapon, when we see China
increasing their defense spending while we're cutting ours.
People need to understand that we have cut $487 billion starting
October 1 over the next 10 years out of our defense. And on top of
that, we have added this problem of sequestration, which adds another
500, $600 billion over the next 10 years starting January 2.
The first $487 billion, some thought was put into, and plans. Even
though we had to adjust our strategy that we've had since World War II,
we've had to cut back. We know that we won't be able to carry out the
missions that we've been called on to do in the future, but we will be
able to survive, according to our military leaders.
But the sequestration--we held five hearings last September with all
of our former military leaders, our current military leaders, former
chairmen and Secretaries of these committees, and to a man, every
single one said that the sequestration would hollow out and wipe out
our national defense.
We would take the Navy back to the size it was in World War I, the
Armed Forces, the ground forces back to the size they were in 1940, and
the Air Force back to the smallest it's been since it was created. How
does anybody think that given these times that is not a stupid thing to
be doing?
The way the sequestration would take effect is you just pull out the
budget and take a percentage--the administration hasn't told us yet
what percentage; it's probably going to be about 15, 20 percent--off of
every single line item. So mowing the lawn at Fort Dix will have the
same priority as ammunition for the troops in Afghanistan. How can
anybody think that that is a smart idea?
You know, we have a Constitution of the United States, and it tells
us how we should operate here in this Congress. It says one body passes
a bill, the other body passes a bill, a conference is formed, you work
out your differences, you take it back for final passage, and send it
to the President to be signed into law.
The House has acted. We took tough votes. We accomplished our
objective of paying for the first year of sequestration, not just the
defense cuts, but all of the cuts across the board, to move it back,
pay for the first year, move it back into a time where we're
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less stressed with the election upon us, where we could do it in a less
political environment, and the Senate hasn't acted. In 126 days, the
Senate hasn't acted. Excuse me. The other body hasn't acted.
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Madam Speaker, they don't like our bill; I understand that. All they
have to do is pass another bill, get it to conference, and then we'll
work out the differences. We accomplished ours through cuts, they can
accomplish theirs through increasing taxes, and then we can work out a
difference. All the gentleman on the other side says is, They've
presented a plan and we don't like their plan.
Well, a plan is nothing. What they have to do is pass a bill. Show
us. Get the votes, pass a bill, and then go to the conference. It's in
the Constitution. That's how we operate. And it's important enough that
we should all act like adults and follow the Constitution and get it
done. Our Nation, our security depends on it, and we don't have much
time left to do it.
Madam Speaker, I think it's very important that we pass this bill. I
encourage my colleagues to vote for it. Let's act like adults. Let's
earn our salaries here. Let's get this job done.
Madam Speaker, I rise in strong support of the National Security and
Jobs Protection Act offered by Mr. West, whom I have the pleasure of
serving with on the Armed Services Committee. We all know that in less
than 4 months, the automatic across-the-board cuts known as
sequestration will go into full effect, significantly reducing funding
for our national defense and vital domestic programs.
Mr. West and members of our committee understand just how much these
draconian cuts will undermine our constitutional obligation to provide
for the common defense. They will result in the United States having
the smallest Army since World War II, the smallest Navy since World War
I and the smallest Air Force in U.S. history. That is why President
Obama's own Secretary of Defense, Leon Panetta, has said the pending
sequester is devastating and akin to shooting ourselves in the head.
So the natural question is--what is our government doing to stop
sequestration? On May 10, 2012, the United States House of
Representatives passed a measured and responsible proposal to deal with
this impending threat, H.R. 5652, the Sequester Replacement
Reconciliation Act of 2012. Yet, 126 days later the Senate has not
acted. The President has not acted.
Madam Speaker, the House is prepared to work with the President and
the Senate on alternatives to sequestration. We urge them to come to
the table. That's what Mr. West's legislation does. Our colleagues in
the Senate tell the press that they are negotiating a deal. Well they
have been talking about that for a year now. It is time to put
something down on paper and get it passed. We must not allow the well
being of our troops and our national security to be used as a
bargaining chip in this debate.
Just this week we were reminded at how unstable and dangerous our
world is. The killing of Americans in Benghazi on the anniversary of
Sep 11th is a reminder and a challenge to every member of this body
that we must put our national security and our national interests
first.
As one senior military official recently told me, America's inability
to govern ourselves past sequestration plays directly into the hands of
those who spread a narrative of American decline and will ultimately
thrust us into a more dangerous world.
This legislation will require President Obama to live up to his
obligation as Commander-in-Chief and submit his alternative plan to
replace sequestration, while encouraging the United States Senate to do
the same. Let us also not forget that it was the President who put
defense ``squarely on the table'' last summer in the negotiations for
the Budget Control Act.
Madam Speaker, we are running out of time before the draconian cuts
in sequestration take effect. There are 111 days remaining. We need to
work together to find a solution. I urge members to vote ``yes'' on
this legislation.
Mr. VAN HOLLEN. Madam Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may
consume.
I agree with the chairman of the Armed Services Committee; we should
act like adults.
We agree that the sequester cuts are done in a stupid, meat-ax way.
We also agree with what the chairman of the Armed Services Committee
said last October when, if it came to choosing between allowing all of
the terrible consequences that he rightly spoke about and taking a
balanced approach to deficit reduction which included some additional
revenue, he would accept the balanced approach.
Mr. McKEON. Will the gentleman yield?
Mr. VAN HOLLEN. I will yield for a very quick question.
Mr. McKEON. You presented something that I said when I was asked
after a speech what I would do, given two bad choices. But you don't
have anything on the floor yet. You haven't passed a bill, so I don't
even have the opportunity to vote for increased taxes because you
haven't passed a bill yet.
Thank you.
Mr. VAN HOLLEN. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
We wanted to give you that opportunity yesterday, which is why I went
to the House Rules Committee with this substitute--which is in my hand,
Mr. Chairman--that said you can replace the sequester right away if
you're willing to cut some big ag subsidies, which I thought we were
all agreed that we could do, but also get rid of some of the subsidies
for the Big Oil companies, not some of the smaller producers, the big
five, and you ask folks over $1 million to pay the same effective rate
that people who work for them pay.
I agree with what you said last October, which is that it's more
important to prevent the kind of cuts that we're talking about here
today to defense and non-defense than it is to protect tax breaks for
Big Oil companies.
Mr. Chairman, I wanted to vote. We wanted to vote. If the Rules
Committee will allow us a vote, you can do it right now. In fact, the
thing I have in my hand, the substitute, if we passed it, would
actually replace the sequester. The resolution on the floor doesn't
replace the sequester, even if it goes to the White House.
I now yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Michigan, the
distinguished ranking member of the Ways and Means Committee, Mr.
Levin.
(Mr. LEVIN asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. LEVIN. Well, I have now been here 30 years, with 26 on the Ways
and Means Committee. So why are we at this point of serious impasse? I
think a major reason is that the radical right has taken over House
Republicans. Balance is considered surrender; compromise is considered
retreat.
Indeed, since the passage of the Budget Control Act in August of
2011, the Republicans have made sequestration even more likely. Before
August of last year, the Republican position was no new revenues. The
Bush tax cuts for the very wealthy were untouchable. But in their
budget passed this March, the Republicans not only said that the Bush
tax cuts for the wealthy must continue, but also they should be
expanded. They are doubling down on a policy of tax cuts for the
wealthiest while annual income stagnation continues for the middle
class, and we have the worst income inequality in generations. So, in a
word, they went from bad to worse, furthering the likelihood of
sequestration.
Under the Ryan budget and the so-called tax reform fast-track bill
they passed last month, a recent analysis concluded that the average
millionaire would lock in an average tax cut of $330,000, while the
average person making less than $200,000 would see their taxes rise by
$4,500.
I support tax reform, but so far Republicans have refused to say
which policies they would eliminate to pay for it. It's been dodge and
deception.
Half of the money in individual income tax expenditures is in the
lower rates for capital gains and dividends, and they propose to cut
those rates even further, Mr. Ryan down to zero on capital gains. Most
of those benefits go to those making over $1 million. Most of the other
major tax expenditures--mortgage interest, health insurance, education
benefits that would have to be decimated--are mainly middle class
benefits.
This bill ignores the fact that the President put forward a balanced
deficit reduction package over a year ago that would have cut the
deficit by $4 trillion over 10 years.
I close by emphasizing the word, ``balanced.'' Essentially, the
Republican Party that I've known over the years has become very deeply
imbalanced in terms of the mainstream of America.
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Mr. GARRETT. Madam Speaker, at this time I'd like to yield 2 minutes
to another gentleman from California (Mr. Campbell), who understands
that we are in fact presenting a balanced approach inasmuch as we
present the options to either pass this legislation that the House
already did or an alternative.
Mr. CAMPELL. I thank the gentleman for yielding.
Madam Speaker, I had made some notes I was going to say, but I'm now
going to go off script as the gentleman from Maryland, who I genuinely
like and respect, made some comments to which I feel I must respond.
The gentleman referred to, as the President does often, additional
taxes on domestic energy, for which they use the pejorative ``Big
Oil,'' and taxes on job creators, for which they are creating a
pejorative, ``the rich,'' and that these two things will solve all
ills.
Well, by my count, when we did the budget this year in the Budget
Committee, the Democrats used those two taxes to pay for seven, by my
count, different items of spending.
Now, let me explain what that's like. It's like this:
Here is a dollar. This is one dollar, a single dollar. If I go into a
store and spend it and buy these breath mints, the dollar will be gone
and I will have the breath mints. I cannot now take this dollar into
six more stores and buy six more bits of breath mints because the
dollar is gone. I spent it. So you cannot use the same tax increases to
pay for everything that are multiple times what those tax increases
will ever raise.
Now, I understand this is a political talking point. I get it. Look,
we all do those. I get it. But this is not a game. We saw this week,
with the reprehensible assassination of Ambassador Stevens, that our
national defense is not a game--it is definitely not a game now--and
our economy is not a game, as millions of people who are out of work
can attest. This is a real proposal. We're asking the President for a
real proposal and not a political talking point, and we need to solve
this problem.
Mr. VAN HOLLEN. Madam Speaker, I want to thank my friend from
California for those comments, and I would just say this:
I have in my hand a proposal, a substitute amendment. If we passed
it, it would prevent the sequester from taking place on defense and
non- defense in a balanced way. You spend these things one time to get
rid of the sequester.
The chairman of the Armed Services Committee said he wished he had an
opportunity to vote on something like this, and I say to him, I wish
the Rules Committee had given him that opportunity.
With that, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Maryland, the
distinguished Democratic whip, Mr. Hoyer.
Mr. HOYER. I thank the gentleman for yielding.
I tell my friend from California whose dollar was at issue here, the
gentleman from California, I will tell you with all due respect and
affection, your party, over the last 10 years, took that dollar and
they bought those mints; and they went to the six subsequent stores and
they gave them a credit card for the next mints they bought. It's time
to pay the bill.
Mr. CAMPELL. Will the gentleman yield?
Mr. HOYER. I have a very short time, but I wanted to make that point
that you kept buying mints; you just didn't keep paying.
Madam Speaker, this bill is another instance of this Republican
caucus walking away from its responsibility. The budget sequester was
never intended to be a solution in and of itself. It was meant to be
the blunt instrument to force compromise. Unfortunately, ``compromise''
is a dirty word around here in some quarters.
To lay out conditions, as this bill does, requiring one side to
concede before negotiations even begin--and while solving only part of
the problem--disregards sequestration's fundamental purpose: to be
equally unacceptable to both sides that it forces compromise.
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This bill, which I strongly oppose, essentially says, let's pretend.
Let's pretend we don't have a deficit challenge. It says, let's pretend
that we can solve our problems by cutting domestic spending alone.
No rational human being believes that's the case. No cuts to
Republicans' favored programs, no elimination of tax loopholes for oil
companies or anybody else, no increases in revenue by asking the
wealthiest to contribute a little more to setting our country on a
sound path.
We're collecting the lowest amount of revenues we've collected in 70
years in this country, and we haven't cut spending, and we increased
spending in the last administration very substantially. By the way, a
greater percentage than this administration has increased the deficits:
86 percent versus 41 percent. Check the figures.
What we need, Madam Speaker, is pragmatism, principle, and serious
governing. We need to be honest with the American people. Both
bipartisan commissions that explored that issue concluded that the best
solution is a balanced approach that addresses revenues, entitlements,
and targeted cuts to domestic and defense spending. To achieve such a
balanced solution, we need something that is sorely lacking in this
House: courage, and a willingness to compromise, to come together, to
reason together, and to make tough decisions together.
Sequester is the direct result of Republican policies and is a part
of the Republican strategy to cut spending.
You keep saying, well, it's the Democrats. This is not a Democratic
policy. It's an irrational policy, but it's in your bills and in your
rules.
Now, instead of working with Democrats to turn off the sequester,
Republicans are trying to paint the sequester as a Democratic
initiative. That is false, untrue.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The time of the gentleman has expired.
Mr. VAN HOLLEN. I yield the gentleman another minute.
Mr. HOYER. The Republican cut, cap and balance bill enforces its cuts
and its caps. How? Through sequestration. That's what you voted for.
After the agreement was reached on the Budget Control Act that put
the sequester in place, Speaker Boehner said, ``I got 98 percent of
what I wanted.'' Now our Republican colleagues are attempting to undo
the sequester in a way that let's them off the hook politically but
puts America at risk financially.
Democrats have an alternative--Mr. Van Hollen just spoke of it--that
would repeal the sequester for a year by asking that the wealthiest in
our country, why, because they can help a little more, not because
they're bad. God bless them. And by the way, we're most of those as
well, folks.
I hope my friends on the other side of the aisle, who I know are as
deeply concerned about our deficits and debt as I am, will join
Democrats in defeating this bill and sending a message that only by
working together can we find the solutions we need. America expects
that of us.
Mr. GARRETT. Madam Speaker, at this time I yield 3 minutes to the
gentleman from Oklahoma (Mr. Lankford).
Mr. LANKFORD. Madam Speaker, let's review. We have $16 trillion in
debt, and it's climbing every single day. We have no budget from the
Senate for the last 3 years. The President's budget got exactly zero
votes in the House and in the Senate. And the Federal Government has
dramatically increased spending, which has led to this spending-driven
crisis.
Let me show you what I mean by that. Five years ago, in 2007, the
Federal Treasury received in $2.5 trillion in revenue, the same amount
that's estimated to come in this year in revenue, $2.5 trillion 5 years
ago, $2.5 trillion now.
Five years ago, total spent by the Federal Government, $2.7 trillion,
now $3.7 trillion. That almost looks like a $1 trillion difference in
spending, which equals the same amount as our deficit.
It's amazing to me. When we process through this, the problem is
crystal clear. It's just the solution that seems to evade us in this
process.
Now, some would say, tell you what we need to do. We've increased
spending $1 trillion, let's just increase taxes as well and that will
solve the issue.
I would say, why are we spending money we don't have?
Last summer, we agreed that we would cut some spending and put a
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group of people together in a room and let them work out a plan to find
$1 trillion in cuts. The back-up, the emergency back-up plan was that
we would cut across the board if a solution wasn't found, 10 percent
for security, 8 percent for everything else.
Now, no one wants across-the-board cuts that are that huge. A 1
percent cut in agencies would be no big deal. I can't imagine any
agency couldn't handle 1 percent. Two percent, no big deal. Maybe even
3 percent. But you start to climb up, and it really begins to cut into
some agencies that are actually very efficient. Other agencies, you
could do a 50 percent cut and it would be fine.
The problem is an across-the-board cut becomes a very big issue for
us. Treating every line item the same is a mistake. Every part is not
the same in our budget.
Let me give you an example. At my house, on a Saturday afternoon,
I'll open up a Dr. Pepper can at my house and my very cute, red-headed
12-year-old daughter will walk up and say, Daddy, can we split that? I
will almost always smile at her and say, sure, I'll take the liquid,
you take the can and we'll split it even. To which she says to me,
that's not really fair.
But it again comes back to the same point: not all parts are the
same. If we do across-the-board cuts in every area, that is not the
best way to do it.
Now, I guarantee you, you allow this House to go item by item through
this budget, we will find $100 billion in cuts next year. I guarantee
you. But doing across-the-board cuts into FBI, it cuts into our
defense, it cuts into Border Patrol, it cuts into the basics and the
heart of what we're doing; and we cannot do that.
The House passed a very specific plan for dealing with this last May.
It is complete for us. Now it's time for the Senate to actually do
their job, and it's time for the President to send that over to us.
Mr. VAN HOLLEN. I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. GARRETT. Madam Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from
California (Mr. Calvert).
Mr. CALVERT. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support, obviously, of H.R. 6365,
the National Security and Job Protection Act.
Do we need any more evidence than recent events in Egypt and Libya to
oppose these devastating cuts and what it would do to our Nation
security? I don't think so.
If sequestration occurs, it would cut the military to its smallest
size since before World War II. All the while, we're still a Nation at
war in Afghanistan, facing unrest and aggression in the Middle East,
increased threats from Iran, China, and North Korea.
In addition to the 10 percent cut to defense, our domestic programs
would have, such as health, science, research, education, border
security, an additional 8 percent cut.
In May, this House passed the only plan that's been presented thus
far to prevent and replace sequestration, last May, by providing and
making commonsense reforms to our fast-growing government that's on
auto pilot spending programs and to avert the spending-driven economic
crisis that's before us.
Well, we've seen no signs of leadership from the White House or the
Senate. But the House will act again today with H.R. 6365, the National
Security and Job Protection Act. The House will lead, where others have
not.
This legislation sends a clear statement that the House is ready to
carry out our budgetary responsibilities. We just need willing
partners. The President, the Senate, House Republicans and Democrats,
we all agree on a common goal: replace the sequester to protect
important domestic programs, our fragile economy, our national security
and our troops.
This bill is a path to that solution. Make no mistake, if
sequestration goes into effect, America will compromise a legacy of
superiority on the land, on the sea, and in the air and potentially
send our economy spiraling back into a recession.
I urge my colleagues to vote in favor of this bill, and I would hope
that we could pass this with a large number and get on with it.
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Mr. VAN HOLLEN. I now yield 1 minute to the distinguished Democratic
leader, the gentlelady from California (Ms. Pelosi).
Ms. PELOSI. As we come to the floor this afternoon to talk about this
sequester issue, the clock is ticking. Every moment we delay in dealing
with the budget issue is a moment of time that does not increase
confidence in our economy, that does not bring more certainty to our
economic situation, and that does not reduce the deficit.
I heard the previous speaker say that this legislation that is on the
floor would end sequestration. It does not. That is one of the major
differences between it and the Democratic proposal put forth by Mr. Van
Hollen. Unfortunately, afraid of debate on the floor, the Republicans
on the Rules Committee did not allow Mr. Van Hollen's proposal to come
to the floor today so that we could have a vote on it; but even with
that, we can have a debate on it.
The debate is about fairness. It's about balance. It's about living
up to our responsibilities. It's about saying, yes, we all have to
compromise--there will be cuts; we need revenue; we want growth. That's
what Mr. Van Hollen's proposal does. It does, indeed, replace the
sequestration. It is a better plan. It actually does end sequestration,
as I mentioned, through a mix of cuts and revenues.
The reason we have a problem here is that our Republican colleagues
have refused to have one red cent from the wealthiest people in our
country contribute to resolving this fiscal crisis, this budget
crisis--not one red cent. If they cared as much about defense as they
say, 1 year ago they would have agreed to a plan with fairness and
balance, where we would have had growth on the table, making decisions
about revenue and about cuts to produce growth and not getting into a
situation that called for across-the-board cuts in defense and in our
domestic budget.
This is really silly. It's really silly. It's not serious. It's a
charade, this bill that they have on the floor today. It just keeps
making matters worse as the clock keeps ticking. So I urge my
colleagues to reject this mirage of a bill that poses as a suggestion
and to support, instead, ideas that are being advanced by Mr. Van
Hollen. I don't like everything about it. We've cut over $1 trillion.
That's how we got through last year--all cuts, no revenue.
You need only see how we differ by just looking at the Ryan-Romney
Republican budget. Their blueprint says we're going to end Medicare;
we're going to make seniors pay $6,000 more as we end Medicare; and
we're going to give tax cuts to the wealthiest people in our country.
That's not fair and that's not balanced, but that is what would happen
if the Republican bill were to become law. It would enact the Ryan
bill. So I urge my colleagues to think very seriously about this,
because people sent us here to find solutions. We must resolve this.
When the Speaker of the House says, I'm not confident we can do this,
we are confident we can do anything we set our minds to, and we
certainly have to be confident that we can honor our responsibilities
to the American people. We all have to go to the table and be willing
to yield, willing to compromise. We had to do it with President Bush,
Senior, and with President Bush on his recovery package for our
country. Democrats cooperated with both of those Presidents when we
were in the majority.
Why is it that the Republicans in the House see no reason to
compromise even at the risk of the full faith and credit of the United
States of America? even at the expense of the health of our economy?
even at the expense of jobs for the American people?
Vote ``no'' on this mirage. Support what Mr. Van Hollen is putting
forth. Let's get moving because the clock is ticking.
Mr. GARRETT. I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from South Carolina
(Mr. Mulvaney).
Mr. MULVANEY. I thank the gentleman from New Jersey.
I saw the gentleman from Maryland this morning on television. It was
the first time I had heard, Madam Speaker, of his proposal. So I had a
chance to take a look at it today, and I also had a chance to look at
the CBO report that was performed on it. I saw some interesting things
that I don't know if we've discussed fully here today.
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It raises taxes by $85 billion over the 10-year window. According to
the CBO, it raises spending by almost $80 billion. This is a refrain
that I used to hear a lot when I was younger--taxes and spending, taxes
and spending, raise taxes and increase spending. I thought it was gone
from today's party across the aisle, but evidently, here it is--alive
and well--in Mr. Van Hollen's substitute offering, raising taxes by $85
billion and raising spending by $80 billion, which is a net reduction
of the deficit of $5 billion over 10 years. According to the CBO, it
actually increases the deficit by $55 billion in the first year.
It does that, by the way, in part and parcel by offering what they
call the Buffett rule. The last time I came to this well, I believe the
gentleman from Maryland and I had a nice exchange about whether or not
my amendment was a gimmick. It was the amendment regarding the
President's budget. I seem to remember someone else calling the Buffett
rule a gimmick. In my research in coming over here today, I found out
that it was, in fact, the President of the United States who called the
Buffett rule a gimmick. So I'm wondering now if the President believes
that part of the gentleman from Maryland's offering is, in fact, a
gimmick because it encompasses the Buffett rule in its entirety.
I compare all of this, Madam Speaker, to the offering that we have
before you with our bill. That bill reduces the deficit by at least
$237 billion over the same 10 years. Theirs reduces it by $5 billion--
raising taxes. According to the CBO, ours reduces the deficit by at
least $237 billion. That's the smallest number the CBO gives us. It
also gives us four times as much in deficit reduction in the first year
as does the BCA that it seeks to replace. Again, theirs increases the
deficit by $55 billion in the first year. Ours decreases it by more
than the BCA it seeks to replace. Our offering does that without asking
anybody to pay more money to the government. People pay enough money to
the government. We spend their money improperly. It's not that we don't
take enough from them. We take enough money from our citizens. We spend
it improperly.
So, when I finished looking at this, I thought to myself, I think it
would be great to have this come up for a vote. I'm disappointed that
the Rules Committee did not give Mr. Van Hollen the chance to bring it
to the floor. It has happened to me before, and for that, I am
sympathetic. At the same time, I know that he has a chance to do that
still. We are going to finish this debate here in a few minutes; and
before we vote, there is going to be a motion to recommit. The
gentleman from Maryland could easily offer his amendment as the motion
to recommit. In fact, I would welcome the opportunity to see that
debate. I would welcome the opportunity here, 60 days before an
election, to have my colleagues across the aisle come over and say, We
want to raise your taxes. Would you please reelect us. I want that on
the floor. I'm disappointed the Rules Committee did not bring it. I
would love to see if that's really what our colleagues across the aisle
stand for.
I heard it described by the gentlelady from California a few minutes
ago as a better plan. I think we are doing a disservice by not allowing
a vote on this particular bill, because it is not a better plan, and I
think the vote here would bear that out, not just on our side of the
aisle. I would be curious to see if that's what our colleagues stand
for--more taxes, more spending here 60 days before an election.
I encourage folks to support our bill. Our bill cuts spending, lets
people keep their money, and still allows us to end the sequester.
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Mr. VAN HOLLEN. Madam Speaker, I wish Mr. Mulvaney were more
persuasive with his colleagues because we agree. I wish we had a vote
on this. We're happy to have that debate. In fact, that's what we've
been having on the floor today.
We heard a lot from our colleagues about the devastating impact of
these cuts on defense and other things, and we agree, which is why we
think it's appropriate to ask people who earn more than a $1 million a
year to help contribute a little bit more to our deficit so that we
don't have to see these consequences.
I now yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from New York (Mr.
Nadler).
Mr. NADLER. Madam Speaker, addressing our debt is a critical long-
term goal, but it's not our immediate problem. Right now, our immediate
problem is high unemployment, and our economy needs efforts to spur job
growth. The expiration of the Bush-era tax cuts, particularly those
targeted toward the middle class, and the start of unparalleled across-
the-board $1.2 trillion spending cuts mandated by the Budget Control
Act sequestration provision, threatened further job growth.
Looking just at sequestration, there is rare agreement. Not the
President, not the Congress, not anyone ever wanted or expected the
sequestration measures to take effect. Why? Because we have a jobs
problem, and the spending cuts demanded by sequestration are a huge
jobs killer.
Republicans argue that this steep cut would risk defense-related
jobs, and they're right. According to the Economic Policy Institute,
these cuts would kill 1.3 million defense jobs in the first 3 years.
But the Republicans completely ignore that the domestic spending cuts
will also kill an estimated 1.3 million jobs in the same timeframe. Put
another way, sequestration will kill 2.6 million American jobs in just
3 years. We simply must stop the sequestration-mandated spending cuts
disaster, but this bill won't do that.
This bill mandates draining tens of billions of dollars of Federal
spending next year, reducing the already draconian domestic spending
caps, and doing all of this without adding a single dollar of
additional revenue. The outcome is virtually the same. This Republican
bill will still kill a couple of million American jobs. Talk about
driving off a cliff.
Basic economics tells us that during good times, with low
unemployment, government should reduce the national debt, but that to
support job growth, government must not reduce spending during
recessions. Now when we suffer from high unemployment, the proposed
spending cuts, particularly those of the magnitude Republicans are
proposing, would be disastrous. When we get to 5 percent unemployment,
then we should start worrying about spending cuts. Right now, jobs are
the issue.
Madam Speaker, I urge a ``no'' vote on H.R. 6365.
Madam Speaker, I rise in strong opposition to H.R. 6365.
While there is wide bipartisan agreement that getting control of our
debt is a critical long-term goal, there is also agreement that
unemployment is unacceptably high and that our economy remains in need
of major efforts to spur job growth.
As we grapple with these issues, there are two significant events
approaching at the end of the year that many have argued could send our
economy careening off the so-called fiscal cliff: (1) expiration of the
Bush-era tax cuts, particularly those targeted toward the middle class,
and (2) the start of unparalleled, across-the-board $1.2 trillion
spending cuts mandated by last summer's Budget Control Act
sequestration provision.
On the tax question, we are where we've remained for years now--the
President and Democrats agree that we can't afford to foot the bill for
tax breaks for the wealthiest among us, while the Republicans continue
to be beholden to the don't-tax-even-millionaires-and-billionaires
plan.
But on sequestration, there is rare agreement. The simple truth is
that no one--not the president, not the Congress, not anyone--ever
wanted or expected the sequestration to take affect. Why? Because we
have a jobs problem, and the spending cuts demanded by mandatory
sequestration are a huge jobs killer.
In 2013 alone, sequestration would require that defense and
discretionary domestic programs each incur an across-the-board $54.7
billion cut. Republicans have been spending a lot of time talking about
the effects this steep cut would have on defense-related jobs. And they
are right. According to the Economic Policy Institute, these cuts would
result in the loss of 1.3 million defense jobs in just the first three
years.
But, Madam Speaker, that is not the end of the story. The Republicans
completely ignore the almost identical job loss from the mandated
domestic spending cuts--also about 1.3 million jobs lost in three
years, according to EPI.
Put another way, if we don't stop it, sequestration will be
responsible for killing 2.6 million American jobs.
So we simply must stop the sequestration mandated spending cuts.
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But this bill won't do that--at least, not really. H.R. 6365 still
mandates (1) draining tens of billions of dollars of federal spending
next year, (2) reducing the already draconian spending caps as outlined
in the BCA, and (3) doing all this without adding one single dollar of
additional revenue. So the outcome is the same--the Republicans would
still kill a couple of million American jobs.
Talk about driving off a cliff.
But we won't hear about that from the Republicans, as they are too
busy dancing as fast as they can to rewrite their role in setting up
this self-made disaster in the first place.
During last summer's debt ceiling debate--another game of chicken
where Republicans held our economy hostage--Republicans demanded a
dollar-for-dollar spending cut in order to raise the debt limit so our
nation wouldn't, for the first time ever, default on our debts. Sure,
there was the charade of reaching compromise through the so-called
super committee. But it should come as no surprise to anyone in this
Chamber that we are where we are today. Republicans wanted deep cuts
that would kill millions of jobs, and we now stand on the brink of
implementing them.
Basic economics tells us that, if you want to support jobs and build
the economy, government must not reduce spending during recessions. In
good times, when unemployment is low, government should build surpluses
to pay down the debt. In bad times, when unemployment is high,
government should run deficits to make up for slowed private sector
spending and to spur job growth. That is why what President Clinton did
in the 90s--balancing the budget and beginning to pay down the national
debt during a good economic time--was so good, and why what President
Bush did--enacting huge tax cuts and running large deficits during a
time of low unemployment, when he should have been paying down the
national debt--was so devastating. Now, when we suffer from high
unemployment, proposed spending cuts--particularly those of the
magnitude Republicans are proposing--would be disastrous. When
unemployment is down to five percent, then we can think about spending
cuts. Now we must spur employment, and not enact these job-killing
spending cuts.
Madam Speaker, it is imperative that we stop the misguided and self-
made disaster that sequestration, or equivalent spending cuts, will
bring. But H.R. 6365 won't do it. I urge a no vote.
Mr. GARRETT. Madam Speaker, I advise my colleague from Maryland that
I have no further speakers at this time, and I reserve the balance of
my time.
Mr. VAN HOLLEN. May I ask how much time remains on each side.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Maryland has 3 minutes
remaining, and the gentleman from New Jersey has 5 minutes remaining.
Mr. VAN HOLLEN. I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the distinguished lady from
Texas, Ms. Sheila Jackson Lee.
Ms. JACKSON LEE of Texas. Thank you very much to the ranking member
of the Budget Committee.
Madam Speaker, we rise today to try to bring some logic and sense,
because as Americans debate sequestration, they throw their hands up
and say, What is that? What is that in the minds of children and the
elderly? What does that mean in a real rational way of coming together
and saying there are some cuts and there are some revenue increases to
be able to invest in the American public?
In order to create jobs, you expend dollars, you invest in research
and development, you help to create opportunities for small businesses,
you help to promote manufacturing. That's how you create jobs.
But let me tell you what the underlying bill says. This bill will
only take effect one year later. It has no opportunity, no desire, and
no rationale to raise revenue. Every thinking economist says that we
must raise revenue in order to reduce the deficit and continue to spend
dollars to invest in the American public.
Do you want your military families to be on food stamps? Do you want
50 million Americans to suffer food insecurity? Do you want these
Americans to suffer? That would include seniors on Meals on Wheels,
home care, adult protective services. Millions of children, one-third
of them, depend on these social service block grants, child protective
services, foster care and child care. This also includes 1 million
disabled, respite care or transportation. Do you want to, as I said,
continue the food insecurity for 60 million children?
All I can say is that this bill not only kicks the can down the road;
it kicks the mountain down the road. Let's vote against this bill.
Let's sit down at the table, boost revenue, and invest in the American
people.
Mr. VAN HOLLEN. Madam Speaker, I yield 45 seconds to the gentleman
from Vermont (Mr. Welch).
Mr. WELCH. Madam Speaker, we have a very serious debt problem in this
country. We have a very serious jobs problem in this country. Both of
those serious problems are solvable. The impediment is political.
This is exhibit A of a dysfunctional Congress. The supercommittee
failed this Congress when the leadership on the Republican side
implemented these sequester cuts. We all know they make no sense from
an economic standpoint, but it puts the burden back on us to come up
with the balanced approach that every American knows is the only way
forward, a balance of revenues, a balance with entitlement reform, and
the Pentagon making a contribution to solve our problems. That is what
is going to create jobs, and that is what is going to create fiscal
stability.
Mr. VAN HOLLEN. Madam Speaker, I yield myself the remainder of my
time.
Madam Speaker, the issue all afternoon has not been whether we should
replace the sequester. Yes, we should. The issue has been how we do
that.
We've heard our Republican colleagues talk about the devastating
impact of the sequester on defense and nondefense. We agree. That's why
we put forward a plan to replace the sequester in the balanced way that
has been recommended by bipartisan groups through a combination of
cuts, but also revenues generated by things like closing the tax
loopholes for big oil companies. Our Republican colleagues have just
doubled down on the position that it's more important to protect tax
breaks for big oil companies and very wealthy individuals than it is to
protect our investment in spending in defense or other important
national priorities. That's what this debate is all about.
I hope we will reject this proposal and adopt a more balanced one.
With that, Madam Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. GARRETT. Madam Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
Madam Speaker, I began this day being interviewed by a group of
southern college students, and the primary question that they asked was
why can't Congress seem to work in a more bipartisan manner, work
across the aisle, work with the other Chamber. I had to explain to them
what was about to occur here on the floor; that one of the most seminal
issues that we have to deal with in this country is fiscal matters and
also our defense matters that this House, led by Republicans, have done
everything we possibly could to make sure that this country stands
strong fiscally and stands strong in a defense posture, as well. We've
reached across the aisle, and we've reached across to the Senate in a
bipartisan manner to effectuate that.
We have passed a budget out of this House only to find that bill go
to the Senate where as they say ``all good bills go to die,'' and not
have anything come back. We've communicated to the President of the
United States that we want to work with him on a budget, only to see
his own budget come to the Senate and fail 97-0, and come to this House
and fail 414-0, not getting any Democrat or Republican support for that
bill, as well.
We have reached across the aisle. We have tried to work on the fiscal
matters and the defense matters when it comes to the sequester. We
recognize the devastating impact that this will have on our defense
posture in this country. As other Members have already come to the
floor, in light of all the past circumstances that have come across
this country in the last decade, in light of the memorial services that
we just held, all of us, in a bipartisan manner out on those steps just
days ago on September 11, in light of what has just been in the
newspaper in the last several days of our embassies being attacked and
Americans killed on American soil, we realize the important
significance of making sure that we have a strong defense at this point
in time.
I ask anyone who considers this legislation to vote ``yes'' in favor
of this legislation, and anyone who would stand and vote ``no'' against
trying to make sure that we're strong fiscally
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and trying to make sure that we are strong in the defense posture as
well, anyone who would vote ``no,'' I would ask them how do they when
they go through the airport leaving here or coming to Washington, look
anyone in uniform in the eye and say that they voted against a bill to
make sure that there would not be the defense cuts here.
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The other side of the aisle has no answer for that. Their only answer
today, and as it's been ever since I've been here in Congress, is to
say the solution to all problems is what? Raising taxes. As I said
before, they want to raise $3 in taxes for every $1 in spending cuts.
We do not have a revenue problem in this country; we have a spending
problem in this country. You know, there is an old saying that goes, if
there is a dime left on the table in Washington, someone, primarily
from the other side of the aisle I would suggest, will find a dollar's
worth of use for spending it, and I think that's the case here. If they
raise the taxes 3 to 1, they will find $30 worth of spending to
increase.
As the gentleman from California pointed out, that was the example
every single time in the Budget Committee. Every single time it was
suggested for spending cuts, they were opposed. They would always use
the same spending cuts to further increase spending elsewhere.
The gentleman from California makes the reference to spending a
dollar every time for--what was it?--for breath mints, I think it was.
Well, quite candidly, after listening to this debate, and after
listening to the debate continuously in Budget Committee over years, I
always leave there, as I will leave here tonight, with a sour taste in
my mouth if the other side of the aisle does not agree to begin to work
with us in a bipartisan manner to make sure that this country is strong
fiscally, to make sure that this country is strong in a defense posture
as well.
I would urge all of my colleagues from both sides of this aisle to
vote ``yea'' on this legislation.
With that, I yield back the balance of my time.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. All time for debate has expired.
Pursuant to House Resolution 778, the previous question is ordered.
The question is on the engrossment and third reading of the bill.
The bill was ordered to be engrossed and read a third time, and was
read the third time.
Motion to Recommit
Mr. VAN HOLLEN. Madam Speaker, I have a motion to recommit at the
desk.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is the gentleman opposed to the bill?
Mr. VAN HOLLEN. Madam Speaker, I am opposed.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Clerk will report the motion to
recommit.
The Clerk read as follows:
Mr. Van Hollen moves to recommit the bill H.R. 6365 to the
Committee on the Budget with instructions to report the same
back to the House forthwith, with the following amendment:
Strike sections 3 and 4 and insert the following:
SEC. 3. BALANCED DEFICIT REDUCTION THAT PROTECTS MIDDLE CLASS
TAX CUTS AND REQUIRES EVERYONE TO PAY THEIR
FAIR SHARE.
(a) Conditional Elimination of Sequestration.--Sections
251A(7) through 251A(11) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency
Deficit Control Act of 1985 shall have no force or effect
upon enactment of subsequent deficit reduction legislation
containing savings over 10 years that meet or exceed the
outlay changes that would have resulted from those
provisions.
(b) Requirements of Deficit Reduction Legislation.--Deficit
reduction legislation enacted pursuant to subsection (a)
shall--
(1) require upper income taxpayers to pay their fair share
by instituting a ``Buffett rule'';
(2) extend middle class tax cuts while allowing components
of the tax extensions that benefit upper income beneficiaries
to expire as scheduled under current law; and
(3) include targeted spending cuts.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to the rule, the gentleman from
Maryland is recognized for 5 minutes in support of his motion.
Mr. VAN HOLLEN. Madam Chair, let's just flash back to a year ago when
we were working on the Budget Control Act, and it's, I think, worth
reminding everybody what the Speaker of the House, Mr. Boehner, said at
that time:
I got 98 percent of what I wanted. I'm pretty happy.
That's what the Speaker of the House said about the Budget Control
Act.
We now find ourselves here trying to find a way to prevent these
across-the-board meat-ax cuts from taking place in the defense budget
and the non-defense budget. There is agreement that that would be a
stupid way to deal with our deficit, so there's no dispute there.
The issue is: What do we do to replace the sequester, to achieve
deficit reduction, but do it in a reasonable and credible way?
That's where the rub is.
What Democrats have said is we need to do it in the way that
bipartisan groups have proposed that we do it, through a combination of
additional cuts in a targeted way, not in a meat-ax, across-the-board
way.
But, yes, we also have to ask the very wealthiest Americans to
contribute more to reducing the deficit, because the math is pretty
simple. If you don't ask very wealthy people to contribute one more
penny to reducing the deficit, then you have to hit everybody else much
harder. You have to hit seniors on Medicare harder. You have to reduce
dramatically our investment in our kids' education. You have to cut
investments in infrastructure, our roads and bridges. Those are the
consequences of not taking a balanced approach.
So we say, when it comes to the sequester, we should avoid all the
terrible things our colleagues have said and which we agree with. Let's
take a balanced approach to do doing it.
You know what? The President submitted a plan to do just that, more
than a year ago. It's not that he doesn't have a plan; it's our
Republican colleagues don't like the plan. Why? Because he says we
don't need to provide these big taxpayer giveaways to the Big Oil
companies anymore. We don't need to cut dramatically into things like
Medicaid and Medicare when we should be asking seniors to pay a little
bit more. Let's ask them to pay what they were paying when President
Clinton was President. That's the last time we balanced our budget.
The question is: How do we do it?
The President submitted a proposal. As I said earlier, I took a
proposal yesterday to the Rules Committee that would have done this in
a balanced approach. Our colleagues say they want an open, democratic
process. We haven't had a vote on that.
Instead, we're going to have a vote on something that actually, even
if it passes the House and the Senate and is signed by the President,
doesn't do anything to eliminate the sequester, doesn't do a thing. It
just says that the President has to come up with a plan. But they tell
him what it has to do. They say it cannot be balanced. It cannot
include any revenue. It has to be across the board in cuts.
Now let's talk a minute about taxes.
The President has called upon this Congress to immediately enact tax
relief to 98 percent of the American people, let's do it now before
they expire at the end of this year, and our Republican colleagues say,
No, no. Nobody gets tax relief unless very wealthy people get a bonus
tax break, because everybody on the President's proposal gets tax
relief on the first $250,000 of their income. Our Republican colleagues
say, No; unless people like Mitt Romney get an extra tax break, nobody
gets tax relief.
You know what? The President's proposal provides tax relief to 97
percent of all pass-through businesses. The Republican colleagues say,
No; unless you're going to give businesses like Bain Capital a bonus
tax break, we can't ask them to contribute one more penny to reducing
the deficit.
Let's talk about jobs. It was really interesting to hear our
Republican colleagues talk today about the fact that, if you allow
these budget cuts to take place, it will have devastating impacts on
the jobs in this country.
You know what? A year ago this month, the President submitted a
proposal to this Congress, a jobs initiative. It called for investing
more in our infrastructure, in our roads and in our bridges, to help
put more persons back to work. We have 14 percent unemployment in the
construction industry.
So here are our Republican colleagues saying, Well, we can't allow
any of these cuts to take place because people who were building tanks
will
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lose their jobs. And we agree; spending that money on defense has
consequences. But how is it that spending money on roads and bridges
and infrastructure doesn't also put people back to work? That's what
the President proposed a year ago. Not a single vote on the President's
jobs bill. There were 37 votes to repeal ObamaCare, but not one vote on
the President's jobs bill.
So, Madam Speaker, whether it's acting on the jobs bill, which has
been sitting here for more than a year, or acting on the President's
proposal to immediately extend tax relief to 97 percent of the American
people, or whether it's taking a responsible balanced approach to
replacing the sequester, let's do what bipartisan groups have
recommended and take that balanced way to build our economy and reduce
our deficit.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. GARRETT. Madam Speaker, I rise in opposition to the motion.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from New Jersey is recognized
for 5 minutes.
Mr. GARRETT. The seminal question, I think, to those who are watching
deliberations here on the floor tonight, they are asking themselves the
question: Are you better off today than you were 4 years ago?
When you look at the economy, you have to answer that question with a
resounding, ``No.'' Poverty is continuously up year after year after
year, at the highest levels in this country we have seen since back in
1995, when one out of seven people in this country now find themselves,
unfortunately, on food stamps.
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Forty-seven million of our friends and neighbors find themselves in
that situation. One out of six Americans will be on Medicaid. Are you
better off today than you were in the past? Absolutely not. And that's
why it's astonishing as I stand here to listen to the other side of the
aisle and the proposals that they presented so far and that they have
over the years.
For the last hour of the debate, the gentleman from Maryland has been
saying one or two basic things, but one primary thing is that he went
to Rules last night, that he had a plan. He pulled out his plan and he
said, This is what the solution is. This is how we solve the problem.
But the problem was that that mean old Rules Committee just wouldn't
allow him to have it come down to the floor tonight.
Well, my friend and colleague from South Carolina made the
recommendation to him: Take that proposal. If that is truly the answer
in your heart, it's the right answer, that is truly the way to go, and
lay it out. If you really do believe that the solution to the problem
is by raising taxes to the tune of $85 billion and cutting spending to
the extent that there's only a net reduction of $5 billion; if you
truly do believe, as you said for the last hour, that the way to
resolve the issue of sequester is by raising taxes by $3 for every $1
in cuts; if you truly believe, and for the last hour, as he has said,
that is the solution to the problem, then he could have come here and
presented an alternative in this format. But he has not done so.
Mr. VAN HOLLEN. Will the gentleman yield?
That's just not true. We asked the Parliamentarian, and they said we
couldn't bring it in that format because of the rule.
Mr. GARRETT. Reclaiming my time, what we have here before us is a
lack of direction, a lack of leadership that America is so looking for
out of Washington. The American public is looking for leadership from
Washington. They're not seeing it from the President, who has failed to
present a budget that would get any single vote in either the House or
the Senate--97-0, 414-0. They're looking for the Senate to demonstrate
some degree of vision, some degree of leadership by taking any of the
bills that we send over to them, whether it's the budget or the
sequester legislation, and showing that they can pass that legislation.
They're looking for some degree of vision from the other side of the
aisle in the House as well on these matters to make sure that we can
stand up fiscally and a strong defense, and they're seeing a lack of
vision here by the other side of the House as well.
We know what writings tell us: A Nation without vision leads to a
people that will perish. Well, Madam Speaker, I can tell you this: that
the route these last 2 years, this Republican-controlled Congress has
shown vision with our strong budget, with our sequester bill, and now
with this bill as well to present the option to the other side, to the
Senate, and to the President to make sure that we can defend this
Nation strong militarily and fiscally as well.
I would encourage all my colleagues to vote ``no'' on this motion to
recommit, and I yield back the balance of my time.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Without objection, the previous question is
ordered on the motion to recommit.
There was no objection.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the motion to recommit.
The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that
the noes appeared to have it.
Mr. VAN HOLLEN. Madam Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.
The yeas and nays were ordered.
THE SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to clause 9 of rule XX, the Chair
will reduce to 5 minutes the minimum time for any electronic vote on
the question of passage.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 170,
nays 247, not voting 12, as follows:
[Roll No. 576]
YEAS--170
Ackerman
Andrews
Baca
Baldwin
Barber
Bass (CA)
Becerra
Berkley
Berman
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (NY)
Bonamici
Boswell
Brady (PA)
Braley (IA)
Brown (FL)
Butterfield
Capps
Capuano
Carnahan
Carney
Carson (IN)
Castor (FL)
Chu
Cicilline
Clarke (MI)
Clarke (NY)
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Cohen
Connolly (VA)
Conyers
Cooper
Costa
Costello
Courtney
Crowley
Cuellar
Cummings
Davis (CA)
Davis (IL)
DeFazio
DeGette
DeLauro
Deutch
Dicks
Dingell
Doggett
Doyle
Edwards
Ellison
Engel
Eshoo
Farr
Fattah
Filner
Frank (MA)
Fudge
Gonzalez
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Gutierrez
Hahn
Hanabusa
Hastings (FL)
Heinrich
Higgins
Himes
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Hirono
Hochul
Holden
Holt
Honda
Hoyer
Israel
Jackson Lee (TX)
Johnson, E. B.
Kaptur
Keating
Kildee
Kind
Kucinich
Langevin
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Lee (CA)
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Loebsack
Lofgren, Zoe
Lowey
LujaAE1n
Lynch
Maloney
Markey
Matsui
McCarthy (NY)
McCollum
McDermott
McGovern
McNerney
Meeks
Michaud
Miller (NC)
Miller, George
Moore
Moran
Murphy (CT)
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal
Olver
Owens
Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor (AZ)
Pelosi
Perlmutter
Polis
Price (NC)
Quigley
Rahall
Rangel
Reyes
Richardson
Richmond
Rothman (NJ)
Roybal-Allard
Ruppersberger
Rush
Ryan (OH)
Sanchez, Linda T.
Sanchez, Loretta
Sarbanes
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schrader
Schwartz
Scott (VA)
Scott, David
Serrano
Sewell
Sherman
Sires
Slaughter
Smith (WA)
Speier
Stark
Sutton
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Tierney
Tonko
Tsongas
Van Hollen
Velazquez
Visclosky
Walz (MN)
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Watt
Waxman
Welch
Wilson (FL)
Woolsey
Yarmuth
NAYS--247
Adams
Aderholt
Alexander
Altmire
Amash
Amodei
Austria
Bachmann
Barletta
Barrow
Bartlett
Barton (TX)
Bass (NH)
Benishek
Berg
Biggert
Bilbray
Bilirakis
Bishop (UT)
Black
Blackburn
Bonner
Bono Mack
Boren
Boustany
Brady (TX)
Brooks
Buchanan
Bucshon
Buerkle
Burgess
Burton (IN)
Calvert
Camp
Campbell
Canseco
Cantor
Capito
Carter
Cassidy
Chabot
Chaffetz
Chandler
Coble
Coffman (CO)
Cole
Conaway
Cravaack
Crawford
Crenshaw
Culberson
Denham
Dent
DesJarlais
Diaz-Balart
Dold
Donnelly (IN)
Dreier
Duffy
Duncan (SC)
Duncan (TN)
Ellmers
Emerson
Farenthold
Fincher
Fitzpatrick
Flake
Fleischmann
Fleming
Flores
Forbes
Fortenberry
Foxx
Franks (AZ)
Frelinghuysen
Gallegly
Gardner
Garrett
Gerlach
Gibbs
Gibson
Gingrey (GA)
Gohmert
Goodlatte
Gosar
Gowdy
Granger
Graves (GA)
Graves (MO)
Griffin (AR)
Griffith (VA)
Grimm
Guinta
Guthrie
Hall
Hanna
Harper
Harris
Hartzler
Hastings (WA)
Hayworth
Heck
Hensarling
Herrera Beutler
Huelskamp
Huizenga (MI)
Hultgren
Hunter
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Hurt
Issa
Jenkins
Johnson (IL)
Johnson (OH)
Johnson, Sam
Jones
Jordan
Kelly
King (IA)
Kingston
Kinzinger (IL)
Kissell
Kline
Labrador
Lamborn
Lance
Landry
Lankford
Latham
LaTourette
Latta
Lewis (CA)
Lipinski
LoBiondo
Long
Lucas
Luetkemeyer
Lummis
Lungren, Daniel E.
Mack
Manzullo
Marchant
Marino
Matheson
McCarthy (CA)
McCaul
McClintock
McHenry
McIntyre
McKeon
McKinley
McMorris Rodgers
Meehan
Mica
Miller (FL)
Miller (MI)
Miller, Gary
Mulvaney
Murphy (PA)
Myrick
Neugebauer
Noem
Nugent
Nunes
Nunnelee
Olson
Palazzo
Paul
Paulsen
Pearce
Pence
Peters
Peterson
Petri
Pingree (ME)
Pitts
Platts
Poe (TX)
Pompeo
Posey
Price (GA)
Quayle
Reed
Rehberg
Reichert
Renacci
Ribble
Rigell
Rivera
Roby
Roe (TN)
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rogers (MI)
Rohrabacher
Rokita
Rooney
Ros-Lehtinen
Roskam
Ross (FL)
Royce
Runyan
Ryan (WI)
Scalise
Schilling
Schmidt
Schock
Schweikert
Scott (SC)
Scott, Austin
Sensenbrenner
Sessions
Shimkus
Shuler
Shuster
Simpson
Smith (NE)
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Southerland
Stearns
Stivers
Stutzman
Sullivan
Terry
Thompson (PA)
Thornberry
Tiberi
Tipton
Turner (NY)
Turner (OH)
Upton
Walberg
Walden
Walsh (IL)
Webster
West
Westmoreland
Whitfield
Wilson (SC)
Wittman
Wolf
Womack
Woodall
Yoder
Young (AK)
Young (FL)
Young (IN)
NOT VOTING--12
Akin
Bachus
Blumenauer
Broun (GA)
Critz
Garamendi
Herger
Jackson (IL)
Johnson (GA)
King (NY)
Ross (AR)
Towns
{time} 1733
Messrs. KISSELL, FORTENBERRY and LIPINSKI changed their vote from
``yea'' to ``nay.''
Mr. BERMAN changed his vote from ``nay'' to ``yea.''
So the motion to recommit was rejected.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the passage of the bill.
The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that
the noes appeared to have it.
Recorded Vote
Mr. VAN HOLLEN. Madam Speaker, I demand a recorded vote.
A recorded vote was ordered.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. This will be a 5-minute vote.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 223,
noes 196, not voting 10, as follows:
[Roll No. 577]
AYES--223
Adams
Aderholt
Alexander
Amodei
Austria
Bachmann
Bachus
Barletta
Bartlett
Benishek
Berg
Biggert
Bilbray
Bilirakis
Bishop (UT)
Black
Blackburn
Bonner
Bono Mack
Boustany
Brady (TX)
Brooks
Buchanan
Bucshon
Buerkle
Burgess
Calvert
Camp
Campbell
Canseco
Cantor
Capito
Carter
Cassidy
Chabot
Chaffetz
Coble
Coffman (CO)
Cole
Conaway
Cravaack
Crawford
Crenshaw
Culberson
Denham
Dent
DesJarlais
Diaz-Balart
Dold
Donnelly (IN)
Dreier
Duffy
Duncan (SC)
Ellmers
Emerson
Farenthold
Fincher
Fitzpatrick
Flake
Fleischmann
Fleming
Flores
Forbes
Fortenberry
Foxx
Franks (AZ)
Frelinghuysen
Gallegly
Gardner
Garrett
Gerlach
Gibbs
Gibson
Gingrey (GA)
Gohmert
Goodlatte
Gosar
Gowdy
Granger
Graves (GA)
Graves (MO)
Griffin (AR)
Griffith (VA)
Grimm
Guinta
Guthrie
Hall
Hanna
Harper
Harris
Hartzler
Hastings (WA)
Hayworth
Heck
Hensarling
Huelskamp
Huizenga (MI)
Hultgren
Hunter
Hurt
Issa
Jenkins
Johnson (OH)
Johnson, Sam
Jordan
Kelly
King (IA)
Kingston
Kinzinger (IL)
Kline
Lamborn
Lance
Landry
Lankford
Latham
Latta
Lewis (CA)
LoBiondo
Long
Lucas
Luetkemeyer
Lummis
Lungren, Daniel E.
Mack
Manzullo
Marchant
Marino
McCarthy (CA)
McCaul
McHenry
McKeon
McKinley
McMorris Rodgers
Meehan
Mica
Miller (FL)
Miller (MI)
Miller, Gary
Mulvaney
Murphy (PA)
Myrick
Neugebauer
Noem
Nugent
Nunes
Nunnelee
Olson
Palazzo
Paulsen
Pearce
Pence
Petri
Pitts
Platts
Poe (TX)
Pompeo
Posey
Price (GA)
Quayle
Reed
Rehberg
Reichert
Renacci
Ribble
Rigell
Rivera
Roby
Roe (TN)
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rogers (MI)
Rohrabacher
Rokita
Rooney
Ros-Lehtinen
Roskam
Ross (FL)
Royce
Runyan
Ryan (WI)
Scalise
Schilling
Schmidt
Schock
Schweikert
Scott (SC)
Scott, Austin
Sensenbrenner
Sessions
Shimkus
Shuster
Simpson
Smith (NE)
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Southerland
Stearns
Stivers
Stutzman
Sullivan
Terry
Thompson (PA)
Thornberry
Tiberi
Tipton
Turner (NY)
Turner (OH)
Upton
Walberg
Walden
Walsh (IL)
Webster
West
Westmoreland
Whitfield
Wilson (SC)
Wittman
Womack
Woodall
Yoder
Young (AK)
Young (FL)
Young (IN)
NOES--196
Ackerman
Altmire
Amash
Andrews
Baca
Baldwin
Barber
Barrow
Barton (TX)
Bass (CA)
Bass (NH)
Becerra
Berkley
Berman
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (NY)
Bonamici
Boren
Boswell
Brady (PA)
Braley (IA)
Brown (FL)
Butterfield
Capps
Capuano
Carnahan
Carney
Carson (IN)
Castor (FL)
Chandler
Chu
Cicilline
Clarke (MI)
Clarke (NY)
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Cohen
Connolly (VA)
Conyers
Cooper
Costa
Costello
Courtney
Critz
Crowley
Cuellar
Cummings
Davis (CA)
Davis (IL)
DeFazio
DeGette
DeLauro
Deutch
Dicks
Dingell
Doggett
Doyle
Duncan (TN)
Edwards
Ellison
Engel
Eshoo
Farr
Fattah
Filner
Frank (MA)
Fudge
Gonzalez
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Gutierrez
Hahn
Hanabusa
Hastings (FL)
Heinrich
Herrera Beutler
Higgins
Himes
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Hirono
Hochul
Holden
Holt
Honda
Hoyer
Israel
Jackson Lee (TX)
Johnson (GA)
Johnson (IL)
Johnson, E. B.
Jones
Kaptur
Keating
Kildee
Kind
Kissell
Kucinich
Labrador
Langevin
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
LaTourette
Lee (CA)
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lipinski
Loebsack
Lofgren, Zoe
Lowey
Lujan
Lynch
Maloney
Markey
Matheson
Matsui
McCarthy (NY)
McClintock
McCollum
McDermott
McGovern
McIntyre
McNerney
Meeks
Michaud
Miller (NC)
Miller, George
Moore
Moran
Murphy (CT)
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal
Olver
Owens
Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor (AZ)
Paul
Pelosi
Perlmutter
Peters
Peterson
Pingree (ME)
Polis
Price (NC)
Quigley
Rahall
Rangel
Reyes
Richardson
Richmond
Rothman (NJ)
Roybal-Allard
Ruppersberger
Rush
Ryan (OH)
Sanchez, Linda T.
Sanchez, Loretta
Sarbanes
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schrader
Schwartz
Scott (VA)
Scott, David
Serrano
Sewell
Sherman
Shuler
Sires
Slaughter
Smith (WA)
Speier
Stark
Sutton
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Tierney
Tonko
Tsongas
Van Hollen
Velazquez
Visclosky
Walz (MN)
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Watt
Waxman
Welch
Wilson (FL)
Wolf
Woolsey
Yarmuth
NOT VOTING--10
Akin
Blumenauer
Broun (GA)
Burton (IN)
Garamendi
Herger
Jackson (IL)
King (NY)
Ross (AR)
Towns
{time} 1742
Mrs. SCHMIDT and Mr. GOWDY changed their vote from ``no'' to ``aye.''
So the bill was passed.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.
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