[Congressional Record Volume 157, Number 151 (Tuesday, October 11, 2011)]
[House]
[Pages H6677-H6678]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT CREDIBILITY IN QUESTION
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair recognizes the gentleman from
Texas (Mr. Poe) for 5 minutes.
Mr. POE of Texas. Madam Speaker, the United States Government has
facilitated smuggling automatic weapons
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into Mexico, weapons that were purchased by straw buyers in the United
States with the oversight of the ATF. Approximately 2,000 weapons were
knowingly sent to our neighbors in Mexico by our government. Most of
them are still unaccounted for. But we do understand that those weapons
probably have been used illegally in Mexico to kill Mexican nationals.
How many, no one knows.
Two of those automatic weapons have turned up at the murder scene in
Arizona of Border Patrol agent Brian Terry. And one weapon apparently
was used to gun down U.S. agent Jaime Zapata in Mexico.
The Mexican government has taken to the airwaves complaining of the
U.S. smuggling operation. Mexican officials want answers, and even want
U.S. Government officials responsible to be extradited to Mexico for
trial. No wonder.
Madam Speaker, let me be clear: These weapons are not BB guns or .22
rifles; they are semiautomatic weapons and also include sniper rifles.
Sniper rifles are used to assassinate specific targets.
The ATF and the Justice Department have stonewalled the release of
information regarding this operation called Fast and Furious, and the
public's not getting much data on this idiotic idea. Why would the U.S.
Government send automatic weapons to the drug cartels in Mexico? Mexico
is at war with the drug cartels. The drug cartels are the enemy of the
Mexican people, not to mention they are the enemy of the United States.
This gun running issue is nonsense.
Now the Justice Department is supposed to investigate this operation,
which includes investigating the ATF and the Justice Department. The
Attorney General, who's head of the Justice Department, at first said
he didn't know anything about this operation until recently. Now it
seems evidence shows he was given a memo last year about the whole
idea. Did he not read the memo? Granted, the Attorney General has
experience not reading important documents, like the Arizona
immigration law. You remember, Madam Speaker, the Attorney General
publicly criticized the Arizona bill, and then he testified before the
Judiciary Committee to a question I asked him that he hadn't even read
that bill.
Anyway, if he didn't know about the smuggling operation, he should
have; he's in charge. And if he did know about it and approved it, he
should be held accountable for this nonsense. I'm not sure what the
Attorney General's claim of defense will be this week. It reminds me of
my days on the bench as a judge in Texas when a defendant in a homicide
case would say first, I wasn't there. And then he would say, well, if I
was there, it wasn't me. And if it was me, I acted in self-defense. In
other words, don't hold me accountable.
So just what is this Justice Department's defense to all of this? We
shall see. But the idea that the Justice Department should investigate
the Justice Department and the ATF is absurd. The Justice Department
has no credibility on this matter, and whatever their investigation
shows, the American public cannot trust its trustworthiness. Having the
Justice Department investigate Fast and Furious, the ATF, and the
Justice Department is like having Al Capone investigate bootlegging.
The President should appoint a special counsel to investigate this
operation of government gun running to Mexico.
And that's just the way it is.
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