[Congressional Record Volume 157, Number 114 (Wednesday, July 27, 2011)]
[Senate]
[Pages S4956-S4958]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]




                              THE ECONOMY

  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Illinois.
  Mr. DURBIN. Mr. President, let me salute my colleague from West 
Virginia. It is a sad task that we have to come to the floor to 
recognize those who have passed. He pays tribute to a young man whose 
life was cut too short but who was determined to serve our country, and 
I thank him for bringing that man's life to our attention in the Senate 
and to those who follow this across the Nation. I am sure the Senate 
joins him in expressing our sympathy to the family on the tragic loss 
of their son. I thank Senator Manchin for coming to the floor.
  Many people have asked about the state of the recession in our Nation 
and what it will take to turn this economy around. There is a lot of 
speculation, and I don't profess to be an expert, but I think there are 
two things that are hurting us and that we will have to deal with to 
bring ourselves out of the current state we are in. One of them is the 
price of real estate. I don't think we have quite reached the point 
where we know where the bottom is in the real estate values in many 
parts of America. That has been a real problem, because for many 
homeowners and buyers it means they are underwater--the value of their 
home has gone down below the value of their mortgage. Some of them have 
given up, others have to give up when they lose their jobs. This real 
estate market and its volatility, the foreclosures that have followed, 
still haunt us years after the subprime mortgage fiasco that led us 
into the recession.
  But I think there is another element that is even more basic. My 
mother and father were married in 1928. My first brother was born in 
1930 and the other in 1932. They started their family in East St. 
Louis, IL. My dad was working for a railroad. My mother, an immigrant, 
began working as a switchboard operator at a telephone company in East 
St. Louis, IL. They each had eighth grade educations and they were 
hard-working folks. That is the way they were raised. They started 
their family as the Great Depression started, and they never forgot it 
as long as they lived.
  I used to take a look at their lifestyle and think that is the 
lifestyle of every family in America, because that was all I knew. Now 
that I look back on it, it was a lot different. My mom and dad, because 
of that Depression experience and starting a family, had some basic 
rules in our house: Never borrow money. Save it. When you have saved 
enough, buy what you need. Otherwise, wait and do without. I thought 
that was the way everybody lived. It certainly was the way I was 
raised, and my brothers.
  They also had some basic things they did to save money. Even after 
years had passed--decades had passed, and they were comfortable, by 
middle-class standards--they were always very careful in the way they 
spent their money. I always felt perhaps there was a fear that those 
bad times might come back and they wanted to be ready. That was the way 
I was raised. It is the way my wife and I raised our children, and it 
was the way my wife was raised, being from Depression-era families who 
had lived through that experience. They modeled their lives afterwards 
based on the fears and concerns they had during the Great Depression.
  Something happened over the last several years which calls that to 
mind. In 2007, households across America had borrowed the equivalent of 
127 percent of their annual income--127 percent. In the 1990s, the 
average was 84 percent. So it was literally a 50-percent increase in 
household indebtedness in a matter of 15 or 16 years. Though Americans 
have been working hard to reduce that debt, because they understand 
what a drag it is on their lifestyle and their wages, the debt-to-
income level in America is still 112 percent--still substantially 
higher than it was back in the 1990s, when it was 84 percent. That 
slows down economic recovery. People who are trying to shed debt are 
careful not to incur new debt, not to buy the things that would put 
them in debt, and that slows down the purchase of goods and services, 
which is exactly the opposite of what you need when you are recovering 
from a recession.
  So I think those two elements--the value of real estate and household 
debt--are holding us back in this economic recovery. There is one 
aspect of household debt I wish to call to the attention of the Senate 
in our record of proceedings, and that is the fact that in October of 
last year we reached a milestone in America, though most people didn't 
notice. For the first time in the modern history of our country, total 
student loan debt exceeded total credit card debt in the United States, 
with $850 billion outstanding in student loan debt across America.
  Mr. President, I don't know your circumstance, but mine was borrowing 
money to go to school with National Defense Education Act loans. This 
will date me for sure, but when I graduated law school in the late 
1960s, and they accumulated all the money I had borrowed--undergraduate 
and law school--they came to me and said: Now you have to start paying 
it back, 12 months from graduation. You had to pay 10 percent a year 
until you paid it off, with a 3-percent interest rate. I gulped and 
said: How much is it? They said: It is $8,500. I thought I was 
finished. I couldn't imagine coming up with $8,500 a year, plus 
interest, to pay off my student loan. My wife and I had a baby and 
another on the way, and I was starting a new job that didn't pay a lot 
of money. I couldn't imagine how I was going to do that, but I did.
  Now that I look back on that, and consider what students face today, 
it is no wonder they laugh when I tell that story--$8,500. They would 
be lucky to get through the book store for $8,500 at most colleges and 
universities today. I may be exaggerating a little bit. The cost of 
college has been skyrocketing, with the average 4-year nonprofit 
college tuition last year at $27,000. The in-State tuition at a public 
4-year university averaged $7,600.
  The cost of room and board, of course, would raise that higher. 
Tuition has been running faster than inflation for the last 20 years, 
sometimes growing at more than double the rate of inflation. But 
household income hasn't been growing. More and more families, unable to 
pay for their kids' education, join their kids in borrowing money, 
student loans. Sometimes they cosign. In a bad economy, some students 
who never anticipated having to take out student loans were forced to 
do it, and others have had to borrow more than they expected they 
would.
  In 2009 alone, student borrowing grew by 25 percent. Today, two-
thirds of college students borrow to pay for college. The result is a 
generation of young Americans beginning their professional lives with 
unprecedented levels of debt. The average student leaves college with 
$31,000 in student loan debt, but it is not unheard of to run into 
students who have a lot more debt, sometimes as high as $100,000, for 
an undergraduate degree. Going on to graduate school or law school is 
very expensive.
  I went to Georgetown Law School. I can't even remember what the 
tuition was when I went there, but I would be amazed if it was more 
than $1,500 a year. It is now $50,000 a year at Georgetown Law School, 
which means if you borrowed the money to finish law school on top of 
your undergraduate debt, you just added $150,000 in debt to your life 
before you draw your first paycheck.
  If you are lucky and one of the best law students, you might get into 
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firm that pays you a huge amount of money. Most law school graduates 
will not. They will make life decisions then based on their 
indebtedness and how to pay it off.
  Students who begin their adult lives paying $600 or $1,000 a month on 
their student loan payments have to make some difficult choices. They 
may put off doing the job they really wanted to do or buying a house or 
even getting married. They may end up moving back home with their 
parents, which more and more students do. It is tough to imagine how 
you get out of that debt burden and create a life that leads to savings 
and happiness and retirement.
  High levels of household debt keep these borrowers from contributing 
to our economic recovery. We need young people to invest in the economy 
and help it. Some of these students will find they can't afford monthly 
payments and they face default.
  Here is something we cannot say enough to students today who are 
considering a college education: There is something you ought to know 
about a student loan. It is not like your car loan. It is not even like 
your home loan. It is not like your credit card debt because student 
loan debt is not dischargeable in bankruptcy.
  What does that mean? If you get in deeply over your head and cannot 
possibly make the payments, you are stuck. You can't discharge that 
debt in bankruptcy. You will carry it with you to the grave. It is with 
you for the rest of your life.
  That is the difference between student loan debt and a lot of other 
loans people take out.
  Mr. President, as tuition growth has outpaced Federal student loan 
limits, private banks and lenders have entered the higher education 
marketplace with private student loans. I don't know why, and I 
certainly wish I would have been more attentive to this when it 
happened, but we decided years ago to treat government student loans 
the same as private student loans, which means if a private entity 
loans money for school, they are protected as creditors like the 
government.
  In other words, even if you borrowed $10,000 from a local bank to go 
to college as a student loan, you can't discharge that in bankruptcy 
either. You are stuck with that for a lifetime. It doesn't apply to 
virtually any other debts, other than perhaps a tax liability under the 
Bankruptcy Code. So it is an unusual situation we have created, an 
unusual burden on young people.
  Federal student loans for most undergraduates are capped at $5,500 
for the first year of school and go up to $7,500 a year by the time a 
student graduates. That doesn't always cover the cost for students when 
tuition can exceed $30,000 at private colleges, so students turn to 
private student loans to fill the gap. This can be disastrous. These 
private loans are made with interest rates and fees as high as credit 
cards. There are reports of private loans with variable interest rates 
reaching 18 percent. Unlike Federal student loans, there are few 
consumer protections. Students don't have access to flexible repayment 
plans, free deferment, or loan forgiveness with private student loans. 
Some students who take out private loans find themselves trapped under 
an enormous amount of debt. Because of the bankruptcy law, it is a debt 
they are stuck with the rest of their lives.
  Now, I want to say a word about another phenomena. Today, Secretary 
Ernie Duncan spoke before Chairman Harkin's Appropriations Subcommittee 
on Education. I think Secretary Duncan is one of the President's best 
appointments, not to mention the fact we have been personal friends for 
a long time, and I have watched as he struggled to change the Chicago 
public school system. It goes beyond his efforts in public service. He 
has given a lifetime to education. His mother was a teacher. He used to 
tutor kids after school. He has it in his blood, and it shows, and I 
think he is a man of great, immense personal talent and integrity, and 
he has done some remarkable things in the tenure that he has had at the 
Department of Education.
  Today when he came to testify, we talked about a phenomena that 
relates to this. I explained to him how I borrowed money to get through 
college and how students today borrow more than ever, with student loan 
debt passing credit card debt. Then we talked about the phenomena of 
for-profit colleges. Here is what the facts are:
  When we look at students who have finished high school, 10 percent of 
them go to for-profit schools. These for-profit schools are not the 
local community colleges or even the traditional public or private 
universities. They are businesses. Ten percent of the students go to 
these private for-profit schools, but the for-profit schools end up 
receiving 25 percent of all Federal student aid, far in excess of what 
you might expect with 10 percent of the students. Twenty-five percent 
of the Pell grants and Federal student loans go to for-profit schools.
  Then there is the default rate. The student loan default rate is 
highest at the for-profit schools. For-profit colleges represent 44 
percent of all defaults on student loans. The rate for public colleges 
and universities is in the single digits, but 25 percent for for-profit 
schools. What it tells us is these students who are attracting more 
Federal student aid end up defaulting more when it comes to the payment 
of their debt.
  For-profit colleges are the fastest growing sector of higher 
education. In Illinois, enrollment has more than doubled over the last 
decade in these schools.
  The largest chain of for-profit colleges, the University of Phoenix, 
has become the second largest higher education system in America. There 
are over 450,000 students in the University of Phoenix, more than the 
combined enrollment of all the big 10 colleges and universities.
  A for-profit college education isn't cheap. Tuition at for-profit 
schools is 5\1/2\ times the price of community colleges and twice as 
much as public 4-year colleges. Two-thirds of the for-profit students 
receive Pell grants which target low-income students and don't have to 
be repaid. But Pell grants aren't enough to pay for for-profit schools. 
To make up the difference, students take out loans. At 4-year, for-
profit schools, 96 percent of students are borrowing money. When 
students leave school, many for-profit college students find their 
training didn't prepare them for a job, and employers don't recognize 
their degrees.
  Buried in debt, without good career and job prospects, these students 
simply can't keep paying the loans. That is why the default rate is so 
high.
  Within 3 years, 25 percent of students who leave a for-profit college 
will default on their student loans. Let me tell you the story of two 
of them.
  Christine lives in southern Illinois. She received a degree in 
medical billing and coding from Sanford-Brown College. She took out 
student loans to pay for college, and she now owes a total of $24,000 
for her 2-year associate's degree. She now refers to that degree as, 
and I quote, ``completely worthless.'' Christine said that when she 
went interviewing for jobs, one company told her her degree was a 
strike against her. Another said they don't hire Sanford-Brown 
graduates because they have to retrain every one of them. She wasn't 
able to find a job, and she put her loans in deferment to go back to 
school and borrow more money.

  Another student, Michelle, spoke at a forum I held in Chicago a year 
ago. Michelle received a degree in criminal justice from Westwood 
College, and she wanted to be a police officer. After graduating, she 
learned that the law enforcement agency she applied to in Illinois 
would not recognize her diploma from Westwood. She was left with nearly 
$90,000 in debt. She has no career prospects.
  Michelle is living at home with her parents in their basement. She is 
working part-time seasonal retail jobs struggling to pay about $900 a 
month on her student loans. She can't borrow any more money now to even 
go back to school and get a degree that might help her. Instead of 
contributing to society, she is trapped. Michelle's school loaded her 
up with Federal and private student loans for a degree that wasn't 
worth anything when she graduated.
  Because of her student loan debt, she is not going to be buying a 
house, she can't save for retirement, she certainly can't invest. She 
can't even go back to school to start over. And because there is no 
escape for her, no bankruptcy protection, she may be burdened with this 
debt for the rest of her life.

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  Mr. President, we can't continue on this path. When I sat down on the 
budget negotiations, one of the things President Obama put on the table 
was extending Pell grants. There was a time when I would have 
instinctively said: Sign me up. I believe if you don't help that 
generation of students, like myself, who don't have the resources to go 
to school, you are denying them the opportunity that I had. I think 
young people deserve that opportunity.
  But I have to say now when I hear Pell grants and student loans and 
consider these for-profit schools, I stop and think. We have to step 
back and ask which of these schools are good and worth supporting and 
which are not.
  I said to Secretary Duncan today we should have accreditation 
standards so these schools are known to be worth the money the students 
are paying to attend. We should follow their progress to make sure if 
they are steering young people in debt and then dumping them into a 
jobless situation in life, that we stop subsidizing them with Federal 
student loans and Pell grants. That is incumbent upon us.
  The administration recently took up the for-profit college cause. 
They are asking for more reporting. It is a step in the right 
direction. As I said to Secretary Duncan, we should have done more. We 
are going to find the worst of the worst. Maybe we will stop them from 
exploiting the students, but there are going to be a lot of awful 
schools still in business because our standards are not as strong as 
they should be at the Federal level.
  Mr. President, as we consider the future of higher education, let's 
consider the fact that the cost of it is outstripping the resources of 
many families, the debt that students incur will change their lives, 
and there is a process of exploitation at many of these for-profit 
colleges that we should not tolerate. It is not fair to the students 
nor their families. It certainly isn't fair to America's taxpayers 
because, as they default on these student loans, the American taxpayers 
will be the ultimate losers.
  Mr. President, I yield the floor.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The majority leader.

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