[Congressional Record Volume 157, Number 103 (Tuesday, July 12, 2011)]
[Senate]
[Pages S4501-S4503]
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DAUNTING CHALLENGE
Mr. DURBIN. Mr. President, I have been participating in the White
House meetings with President Obama and the leaders of the House and
Senate from both Democratic and Republican Parties for the last several
days discussing the deadline we face of August 2, where we are required
to extend the debt ceiling of the United States and the larger question
about what we will do with our Nation's deficit and debt. It is a
daunting challenge but one with a sense of immediacy. Most people
across America would just react intuitively and say: Please, no more
debt. They wonder why we want to extend the debt ceiling. It is a part
of our government and part of our economy that needs at least a little
bit of explanation.
Imagine that you have decided to purchase a home and you have a
mortgage. To stay in your home and enjoy it, you have to make your
monthly mortgage payment. When the time comes, if you do not make your
monthly mortgage payment, you run the risk of being pushed out of your
home, evicted, foreclosed. That is what we face on August 2, in a
different form. If we fail to extend the debt ceiling, we are, in fact,
missing our mortgage payment, and it creates problems. The credit
rating of the United States of America will suffer as the credit rating
of any family would suffer if they did not make a mortgage payment. The
likelihood that the United States could borrow more money soon without
higher interest rates is diminished. In fact, we would face higher
interest rates--our government would--if we did not extend our debt
ceiling. That is not the only problem. Higher interest rates for our
government mean more taxes have to be paid by our citizens to finance
our debt, and interest rates across America will go up as well. So
average citizens and families who had nothing to say with this
extension of the debt ceiling are going to face higher interest rates
when it comes to purchases that they might make for cars and homes and
appliances. It would be the height of irresponsibility not to extend
the debt ceiling.
Since 1939, I was told this morning, we have consistently, time after
time, extended the debt ceiling of America without fail. We have never
defaulted. We have never called into question the full faith and credit
of the United States. We have never jeopardized our credit rating in
the world by failing to meet this responsibility, and we cannot do it
now. With an unemployment rate of 9.2 percent, with an economy still
recovering very slowly, we cannot run the risk of creating more
unemployment and hurting businesses with higher interest rates, and so
we have to do it.
At the same time, though, we are embarking on an important, strategic
national discussion about our deficit and debt. I don't know whether I
am fortunate or unfortunate. For the past year and a half I have been
engaged in this conversation in a much more focused way than at any
time in my career. I was appointed to be a member of President Obama's
deficit commission. There are 18 of us, and I have stayed on to work
with 5 of my colleagues, 2 Democratic Senators and 3 Republican
Senators, to see if we can come up with a bipartisan approach to deal
with a very difficult problem.
Let me give a few facts and a little history that puts it in
perspective. Today, for every dollar our government spends in America,
we borrow 40 cents. I just left the meeting of the Chinese-American
Interparliamentary Union where members of the Chinese Parliament are
just a few steps away. China is our No. 1 creditor in the world. China
loans more money to the United States, buys more of our debt, than any
other Nation. That is worrisome because China, though it is our largest
creditor, is also our largest competitor.
Go to your local Big Box store and flip the product over and see
where the product is made. Time and time again they are made in China.
So this country that is financing our debt is also competing with
American producers and workers. It is not a healthy situation. The more
dependent we are on these countries to finance our debt, the weaker our
economy. So reducing the amount of money we borrow is in our economic
best interest, and it lessens the chance that our children and
grandchildren will have to pay off the debts we incur.
What is the status of the debt in America? It is about $14.5
trillion, but it has not been at that level before, and it has not been
at that level for a long time. It is likely to go up. Just to give a
perspective on it, 10 years ago--just 10 years ago--the national debt
of America was $5 trillion. Now it is $14.5 trillion. Mr. President, $5
trillion. It was the end of the Clinton Presidency, and as President
Clinton left office we had 3 straight years of Federal budget surplus.
We were bringing in more revenue than we were spending. It was healthy
because the excess we collected we put into programs such as Social
Security to make sure they would be there for years and years to come.
President Clinton, as he left office with a $5 trillion national debt,
which was the debt accumulated across the history of America, and
surpluses coming in each year, said to the incoming President, George
W. Bush: Next year's budget is going to generate another surplus, $120
billion. Welcome to Washington.
President Bush became President, and now fast-forward 8 years later.
What happened? The $5 trillion national debt during the Bush
administration grew to almost $11 trillion. It more than doubled in an
8-year period of time. Instead of leaving President Obama a surplus,
President Bush said: Next year's budget is going to have a $1.2
trillion deficit. Mr. President, a $1.2 trillion deficit. So the
President
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faced the largest single annual deficit as he came to office, President
Obama, and a national debt that had more than doubled in the previous 8
years. How does one double the national debt of America in 8 years?
From George Washington until the end of President Clinton, the net
national debt of America was $5 trillion. How did it more than double
in 8 years? Here is how: You wage two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and
you don't pay for them. You add them to the national debt. Then you do
something that no President has ever done in the history of the United
States, in the middle of a war, with annual deficits: you cut taxes. It
is counterintuitive. You are taking revenue away from the government
when it needs it to pay for a war and to continue the functions of
government. So there were unpaid-for wars and tax cuts primarily for
the wealthy people in America, followed by programs that were not paid
for. Put those three together and build into it an economic theory that
if we just keep cutting taxes on high-income individuals, America will
get well. The theory fails, and the debt of America doubles in 8 years.
That is what happened. It is a fact. It went to $10.5 trillion from $5
trillion in just 8 years, and we know what we have gone through since.
People are out of work, folks are struggling to get by, and businesses
are struggling. That is a reality of where we are.
So when we come together to talk about dealing with this debt, it is
a painful topic, and it affects every single American. Here is what we
found on the Bowles-Simpson Commission: Any serious conversation about
reducing America's debt requires cutting spending and raising revenue.
If we do not do those two things, it will not work. What do we cut?
Well, almost everything. We take a look across the board at all Federal
spending, whether it is discretionary spending for domestic purposes or
for defense purposes. We take a look at the entitlement programs,
programs such as Medicare, Medicaid, veterans, agriculture, and we see
where we can save money there. And we look at revenue. Where can we
come up with revenue that will not hurt the economic recovery but will
help us bring our debt under control? The deficit commission came to
that conclusion, other Senators have come to that conclusion, and now
we are debating it again with the President on a daily basis in the
White House.
This morning my colleagues from the Republican side of the aisle came
with their solution--at least one of their solutions. It is not a new
idea. In fact, it is an idea that has been around a long time. It is
called a balanced budget constitutional amendment. We first saw the
move for a balanced budget constitutional amendment in modern times
during President Reagan's Presidency. It was interesting.
President Reagan increased the debt limit of the United States more
than any other President. He ran up the highest deficits of any
President in history before him and had this push on to amend the
Constitution. It is ironic that at the same time members of his party
were spending the money and plunging us in debt, they said the answer
was to change the Constitution--not change their conduct, not change
the way they managed the government, but change the Constitution. It is
like saying: I will not tell you I am going to stop stealing, but I
will tell you I will vote for the Ten Commandments. It doesn't work.
We have it within our power, as Members of the Senate and the House,
to change the way we spend money in Washington. To say we are going to
wait for a constitutional amendment to get it done is to submit it to
the States and let them see if three-fourths of the States agree we
should amend the Constitution. How long does that take to amend the
Constitution? The last amendment to the Constitution took 203 years
before all the States--three-fourths of them--got around to ratifying
it. Some of them take much shorter periods of time, but there is no
guarantee when the States will get around to doing this if they agree
with amending the Constitution.
So I ask my friends on the Republican side of the aisle: Instead of
focussing on the Constitution, why don't you focus on the here and now,
the authority we have as elected Senators and Members of the House to
do something, not to give speeches and preach about changing our
Constitution.
I have to tell you, when it comes to this Constitution, I don't
address it with fear but with humility. This is a document which is
revered not only in the United States but around the world. To say
that, well, we are just going to change the Constitution to deal with
today's problems, I am skeptical and I am reluctant and I am humbled by
the fact that those words have created the greatest, strongest
democracy on Earth.
Before we start changing the words of that Constitution, I always
say: Is there another way to do it? The answer is, yes; clearly there
is. Instead of speeches on the floor of the Senate about constitutional
amendments, why don't we have speeches on the floor talking about the
bipartisan deficit commission and what we can do about our debt? Why
don't we honestly come together and say everything has to be on the
table--everything? All spending programs, all entitlement programs, all
taxes have to be on the table, and let's take an honest look at how we
can address them and make this economy strong and moving forward. That
is what we face.
We have had a bad track record from some Members on the other side of
the aisle who give speeches about constitutional amendments but don't
stick around for the hard choices. We had a chance to put a bill
together into a law that would have made a vote of Congress mandatory
on bringing the budget deficit down dramatically. Seven Republican
Senators who were cosponsors of that bill when it came to the floor
voted against it and defeated it. They walked away from it. We have had
conversations here where Senators have come together and tried to work
out our differences on deficits and come up with a plan. In one group I
have been part of, one of the Republican Senators walked away from it,
and it basically was put on hold because of that.
Vice President Biden was given the authority to sit down in a
bipartisan conversation and come up with an approach to the deficit and
the Republican House majority leader walked away and said, I am not
going to participate. This last week, President Obama was working
directly with the Republican House Speaker, trying to come up with a
plan over the weekend and the House Speaker said, I am walking away
from it.
So the Republican Party has become the ``walk away, Renee'' party
when it comes to this deficit. We have to keep them in the room. They
have to stop theorizing about constitutional amendments down the road
months and years from now and deal with the here and now. The reality
is we need to extend our debt limit, we need to deal with our deficit
in an honest way, and we need to put everything--underline everything--
on the table. That is painful on our side of the aisle when it comes to
entitlement programs and it is painful on their side of the aisle when
it comes to taxing those in higher income categories. But until we
reach that point, this conversation is going to continue to lead to
more debt, more money being borrowed from China, and an economy that is
not going to get back on its feet.
I think we can do this in a responsible fashion. I hope we can have a
bipartisan approach to it. It is the only way it will work. With a
Republican House and a Democratic Senate, we need a bipartisan
approach. We will be returning this afternoon with the President to
deal with this, to work on approaches to it, and I hope we can get
something done in a positive fashion.
This morning Senator McConnell said some interesting things I wish to
address. Senator McConnell is the Senate Republican leader. He implied
that this debate should be fairly easy. I wish he were right. He said
the Republicans have been the party that has brought an open mind to
these discussions. Well, I don't think that is a fact that can be
proven based on what I said earlier.
He said:
The suggestion has been made that this debate was hinged on
the question of whether or not the two parties could find a
solution to our economic problems without raising taxes.
Wrong. We could have done that without breaking a sweat.
He added:
It's no secret how to solve the entitlement crisis either.
Any one of the people involved
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in these discussions could write it out on the back of an
envelope.
Perhaps that is part of the challenge here. I know the Republican
approach to Medicare is much different than the Democratic approach.
The House Republican budget would have dramatically changed Medicare as
we know it. It would have doubled the out-of-pocket expenditures of
senior citizens. It would have put the Medicare Program in the hands of
private health insurance companies. Unfortunately, it would have put
many seniors in their sixties, seventies, and eighties at the tender
mercies of health insurance adjusters. That is not a good approach to
health care for our seniors.
The challenges we face are not easy, they are not cosmetic, and they
can't be solved by letting the market--meaning insurance companies--run
Medicare.
In these negotiations, I believe many Democrats, myself included, are
willing to sit down and talk about reductions in government spending.
Even though I believe in my heart of hearts our economy needs a
stimulus at this point and reducing spending may be exactly the wrong
thing to do, I am still prepared to sit at the table and find a
consensus if we can when it comes to spending cuts.
But we shouldn't make this economic challenge be subject to
dramatically changing the benefits under Social Security and Medicare
and Medicaid. These programs are critical for families across America.
Some of them have watched their savings disappear, their pension plans
evaporate in a bankruptcy court, and they count on Social Security. We
have to be there to make sure Social Security will be there for them.
Senator McConnell also wants the Senate and the American people to
think Republicans are negotiating in good faith and the Democrats are
not. He said:
We showed a willingness to sacrifice all along even as we
made it crystal clear from the outset that tax increases
would not be a part of the agreement.
So I have to ask Senator McConnell: What is it the Republicans are
willing to sacrifice in this debate? He went on to say:
There can be no question by anyone involved in these
discussions that Republicans are willing to make tough
choices.
Again, which tough choices? Right now we are at a stalemate in our
conversations with the President because the Republicans have been
unable to come up with an approach that will meet the needs of deficit
reduction.
So we need to work together. Both sides need to be willing to make
these tough choices and face these challenges. Unless and until we do
this on a bipartisan basis, we will not be serving the people who
elected us.
It struck me as I sat in that room the other night--the Cabinet Room
with the President--what a rare honor it is for me and for every one of
us in that room to be there, to be entrusted with this responsibility
for this great Nation of over 300 million people who are counting on us
to do something historic and maybe politically bold. I am prepared to
do that. I hope others are as well. I think if we approach it on a
bipartisan basis, with both sides willing to give, with everything on
the table, we can solve this, and we should do it as quickly as
possible.
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