[Congressional Record Volume 157, Number 99 (Wednesday, July 6, 2011)]
[House]
[Pages H4640-H4669]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
PERSONAL EXPLANATION
Mr. ROE of Tennessee. Mr. Chair, on July 6, 2011, I missed 3 recorded
votes because my return flight from Tennessee to Washington was
significantly delayed.
I take my voting responsibility very seriously. Had I been present, I
would have voted ``no'' on recorded vote numbers 495, 496, and 497.
Amendment Offered by Mr. Kucinich
The Acting CHAIR. The unfinished business is the demand for a
recorded vote on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Ohio (Mr.
Kucinich) on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the
noes prevailed by voice vote.
The Clerk will redesignate the amendment.
The Clerk redesignated the amendment.
Recorded Vote
The Acting CHAIR. A recorded vote has been demanded.
A recorded vote was ordered.
The Acting CHAIR. This is a 2-minute vote.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 253,
noes 167, not voting 11, as follows:
[Roll No. 498]
AYES--253
Ackerman
Altmire
Amash
Andrews
Baca
Bachmann
Baldwin
Barrow
Bass (CA)
Becerra
Berkley
Berman
Bilirakis
Bishop (NY)
Boren
Boswell
Brady (PA)
Braley (IA)
Brown (FL)
Burgess
Burton (IN)
Butterfield
Calvert
Camp
Capps
Capuano
Cardoza
Carnahan
Carney
Carson (IN)
Castor (FL)
Chabot
Chandler
Chu
Cicilline
Clarke (MI)
Clarke (NY)
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Coble
Cohen
Connolly (VA)
Conyers
Costello
Courtney
Critz
Crowley
Cuellar
Cummings
Davis (CA)
Davis (IL)
DeFazio
DeGette
DeLauro
Dent
Deutch
Dicks
Dingell
Doggett
Donnelly (IN)
Doyle
Duffy
Edwards
Ellison
Engel
Eshoo
Farr
Fattah
Filner
Fincher
Fitzpatrick
Fortenberry
Frank (MA)
Fudge
Gallegly
Garamendi
Gardner
Gibson
Gonzalez
Goodlatte
Gosar
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Griffith (VA)
Grijalva
Grimm
Guthrie
Gutierrez
Hanabusa
Hanna
Harris
Hartzler
Hastings (FL)
Heck
Heinrich
Herrera Beutler
Higgins
Himes
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Hirono
Hochul
Holden
Holt
Honda
Hoyer
Huelskamp
Hurt
Inslee
Israel
Jackson (IL)
Jackson Lee (TX)
Johnson (GA)
Johnson (IL)
Johnson (OH)
Johnson, E. B.
Jones
Kaptur
Kildee
Kind
Kinzinger (IL)
Kissell
Kucinich
Labrador
Lance
Langevin
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Latham
Lee (CA)
Levin
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (GA)
Lipinski
LoBiondo
Loebsack
Lofgren, Zoe
Lowey
Lujan
Lummis
Lungren, Daniel E.
Lynch
Maloney
Manzullo
Markey
Matheson
Matsui
McCarthy (NY)
McCollum
McDermott
McGovern
McMorris Rodgers
McNerney
Meehan
Meeks
Michaud
Miller (MI)
Miller (NC)
Miller, George
Moore
Moran
Mulvaney
Murphy (CT)
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal
Olver
Owens
Palazzo
Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor (AZ)
Paul
Paulsen
Payne
Pelosi
Perlmutter
Peters
Peterson
Petri
Pingree (ME)
Poe (TX)
Polis
Price (GA)
Price (NC)
Quigley
Rahall
Rangel
Reichert
Renacci
Reyes
Richardson
Richmond
Roe (TN)
Rokita
Ross (AR)
Rothman (NJ)
Roybal-Allard
Runyan
Ruppersberger
Rush
Ryan (OH)
Sanchez, Linda T.
Sanchez, Loretta
Sarbanes
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schilling
Schrader
Schwartz
Scott (VA)
Scott, David
Sensenbrenner
Serrano
Sessions
Sewell
Sherman
Sires
Slaughter
Smith (NJ)
Smith (WA)
Southerland
Speier
Stark
Stearns
Sutton
Terry
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Tierney
Tipton
Tonko
Tsongas
Turner
Upton
Van Hollen
Velazquez
Visclosky
Walden
Walz (MN)
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Waxman
Welch
West
Westmoreland
Wilson (FL)
Wilson (SC)
Woodall
Woolsey
Wu
Yarmuth
NOES--167
Adams
Aderholt
Akin
Alexander
Austria
Bachus
Barletta
Bartlett
Barton (TX)
Bass (NH)
Benishek
Berg
Biggert
Bilbray
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (UT)
Black
Blackburn
Bonner
Boustany
Brady (TX)
Brooks
Broun (GA)
Buchanan
Bucshon
Buerkle
Campbell
Canseco
Cantor
Capito
Carter
Cassidy
Chaffetz
Coffman (CO)
Cole
Conaway
Cooper
Costa
Cravaack
Crawford
Crenshaw
Davis (KY)
Denham
DesJarlais
Diaz-Balart
Dold
Dreier
Duncan (SC)
Duncan (TN)
Ellmers
Emerson
Farenthold
Flake
Fleischmann
Fleming
Flores
Forbes
Foxx
Franks (AZ)
Frelinghuysen
Garrett
Gerlach
Gibbs
Gingrey (GA)
Gohmert
Gowdy
Granger
Graves (GA)
Graves (MO)
Griffin (AR)
Hall
Harper
Hastings (WA)
Hayworth
Hensarling
Herger
Huizenga (MI)
Hultgren
Hunter
Issa
Jenkins
Johnson, Sam
Jordan
Kelly
King (IA)
King (NY)
Kingston
Kline
Lamborn
Landry
Lankford
LaTourette
Latta
Long
Lucas
Luetkemeyer
Marchant
Marino
McCarthy (CA)
McCaul
McClintock
McCotter
McHenry
McKeon
McKinley
Mica
Miller (FL)
Miller, Gary
Murphy (PA)
Myrick
Neugebauer
Noem
Nugent
Nunes
Nunnelee
Olson
Pearce
Pence
Pitts
Platts
Pompeo
Posey
Quayle
Reed
Rehberg
Ribble
Rigell
Rivera
Roby
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rogers (MI)
Rohrabacher
Rooney
Ros-Lehtinen
Roskam
Ross (FL)
Royce
Ryan (WI)
Scalise
Schmidt
Schock
Schweikert
Scott (SC)
Scott, Austin
Shimkus
Shuler
Shuster
Simpson
Smith (NE)
Smith (TX)
Stivers
Stutzman
Sullivan
Thompson (PA)
Thornberry
Tiberi
Walberg
Walsh (IL)
Webster
Whitfield
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Wittman
Wolf
Womack
Yoder
Young (FL)
Young (IN)
NOT VOTING--11
Blumenauer
Bono Mack
Culberson
Giffords
Guinta
Keating
Mack
McIntyre
Towns
Watt
Young (AK)
Announcement by the Acting Chair
The Acting CHAIR (during the vote). One minute remains in this vote.
{time} 1914
Mr. CHABOT changed his vote from ``no'' to ``aye.''
So the amendment was agreed to.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
Amendments No. 21 and 22 Offered by Mr. Broun of Georgia
Mr. BROUN of Georgia. Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent to
withdraw my request for a recorded vote on amendment Nos. 21 and 22, to
the end that they stand disposed of by the voice votes thereon.
The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will redesignate each amendment.
The Clerk redesignated the amendments.
The Acting CHAIR. Is there objection?
Without objection, the requests for a recorded vote are withdrawn and
amendment Nos. 21 and 22 stand as not adopted.
There was no objection.
Amendment Offered by Mr. Welch
The Acting CHAIR. The unfinished business is the demand for a
recorded vote on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Vermont
(Mr. Welch) on which further proceedings were postponed and on which
the noes prevailed by voice vote.
The Clerk will redesignate the amendment.
The Clerk redesignated the amendment.
Recorded Vote
The Acting CHAIR. A recorded vote has been demanded.
A recorded vote was ordered.
The Acting CHAIR. This is a 2-minute vote.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 98,
noes 322, not voting 11, as follows:
[Roll No. 499]
AYES--98
Amash
Baldwin
Bass (CA)
Becerra
Benishek
Boswell
Braley (IA)
Campbell
Capps
Capuano
Carson (IN)
Chu
Clarke (NY)
Cohen
Conyers
Crowley
Cummings
DeFazio
DeGette
Deutch
Doyle
Duffy
Duncan (TN)
Edwards
Ellison
Eshoo
Farr
Filner
Frank (MA)
Fudge
Gibson
Graves (GA)
Green, Gene
Griffith (VA)
Grijalva
Gutierrez
Harris
Higgins
Hirono
Holt
Honda
Inslee
Jackson (IL)
Johnson, E. B.
Jones
Kind
Kucinich
Labrador
Lee (CA)
Lewis (GA)
Loebsack
Lofgren, Zoe
Lummis
Lynch
Maloney
Markey
Matsui
McDermott
McGovern
Michaud
Miller, George
Mulvaney
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal
Olver
Pallone
Paul
Payne
Pelosi
Peters
Petri
Pingree (ME)
Polis
Quigley
Rahall
Reed
Roybal-Allard
Ryan (OH)
Sarbanes
Schakowsky
Schrader
Sensenbrenner
Serrano
Slaughter
Speier
Stark
Thompson (CA)
Tierney
Tonko
Tsongas
Velazquez
Waters
Waxman
Welch
Wilson (FL)
Woolsey
Yarmuth
NOES--322
Ackerman
Adams
Aderholt
Akin
Alexander
Altmire
Andrews
Austria
Baca
Bachmann
Bachus
Barletta
Barrow
Bartlett
Barton (TX)
Bass (NH)
Berg
Berkley
Berman
Biggert
Bilbray
Bilirakis
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (NY)
Bishop (UT)
Black
Blackburn
Bonner
Boren
Boustany
Brady (PA)
Brady (TX)
Brooks
Broun (GA)
Brown (FL)
Buchanan
Bucshon
Buerkle
Burgess
Burton (IN)
Butterfield
Calvert
Camp
Canseco
Cantor
Capito
Cardoza
Carnahan
Carney
Carter
Cassidy
Castor (FL)
Chabot
Chaffetz
Chandler
Cicilline
Clarke (MI)
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Coble
Coffman (CO)
Cole
Conaway
Connolly (VA)
Cooper
Costa
Costello
Courtney
Cravaack
Crawford
Crenshaw
Critz
Cuellar
Davis (CA)
Davis (IL)
Davis (KY)
DeLauro
Denham
Dent
DesJarlais
Diaz-Balart
Dicks
Dingell
Doggett
Dold
Donnelly (IN)
Dreier
Duncan (SC)
Ellmers
Emerson
Engel
Farenthold
Fattah
Fincher
Fitzpatrick
Flake
Fleischmann
Fleming
Flores
Forbes
Fortenberry
Foxx
Franks (AZ)
Frelinghuysen
Gallegly
Garamendi
Gardner
Garrett
Gerlach
Gibbs
Gingrey (GA)
Gohmert
Gonzalez
Goodlatte
Gosar
Gowdy
Granger
Graves (MO)
Green, Al
Griffin (AR)
Grimm
Guthrie
Hall
Hanabusa
Hanna
Harper
Hartzler
Hastings (FL)
Hastings (WA)
Hayworth
Heck
Heinrich
Hensarling
Herger
Herrera Beutler
Himes
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Hochul
Holden
Hoyer
Huelskamp
Huizenga (MI)
Hultgren
Hunter
Hurt
Israel
Issa
Jackson Lee (TX)
Jenkins
Johnson (GA)
Johnson (IL)
Johnson (OH)
Johnson, Sam
Jordan
Kaptur
Kelly
Kildee
King (IA)
King (NY)
Kingston
Kinzinger (IL)
Kissell
Kline
Lamborn
Lance
Landry
Langevin
Lankford
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Latham
LaTourette
Latta
Levin
Lewis (CA)
Lipinski
LoBiondo
Long
Lowey
Lucas
Luetkemeyer
Lujan
Lungren, Daniel E.
Manzullo
Marchant
Marino
Matheson
McCarthy (CA)
McCarthy (NY)
McCaul
McClintock
McCollum
McCotter
McHenry
McKeon
McKinley
McMorris Rodgers
McNerney
Meehan
Meeks
Mica
Miller (FL)
Miller (MI)
Miller (NC)
Miller, Gary
Moore
Moran
Murphy (CT)
Murphy (PA)
Myrick
Neugebauer
Noem
Nugent
Nunes
Nunnelee
Olson
Owens
Palazzo
Pascrell
Pastor (AZ)
Paulsen
Pearce
Pence
Perlmutter
Peterson
Pitts
Platts
Poe (TX)
Pompeo
Posey
Price (GA)
Price (NC)
Quayle
Rangel
Rehberg
Reichert
Renacci
Reyes
Ribble
Richardson
Richmond
Rigell
Rivera
Roby
Roe (TN)
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rogers (MI)
Rohrabacher
Rokita
Rooney
Ros-Lehtinen
Roskam
Ross (AR)
Ross (FL)
Rothman (NJ)
Royce
Runyan
Ruppersberger
Rush
Ryan (WI)
Sanchez, Linda T.
Sanchez, Loretta
Scalise
Schiff
Schilling
Schmidt
Schock
Schwartz
Schweikert
Scott (SC)
Scott (VA)
Scott, Austin
Scott, David
Sessions
Sewell
Sherman
Shimkus
Shuler
Shuster
Simpson
Sires
Smith (NE)
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Smith (WA)
Southerland
Stearns
Stivers
Stutzman
Sullivan
Sutton
Terry
Thompson (MS)
Thompson (PA)
Thornberry
Tiberi
Tipton
Turner
Upton
Van Hollen
Visclosky
Walberg
Walden
Walsh (IL)
Walz (MN)
Wasserman Schultz
Webster
West
Westmoreland
Whitfield
Wilson (SC)
Wittman
Wolf
Womack
Woodall
Wu
Yoder
Young (FL)
Young (IN)
NOT VOTING--11
Blumenauer
Bono Mack
Culberson
Giffords
Guinta
Keating
Mack
McIntyre
Towns
Watt
Young (AK)
{time} 1920
Mr. PASCRELL changed his vote from ``aye'' to ``no.''
Ms. SPEIER changed her vote from ``no'' to ``aye.''
So the amendment was rejected.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
Amendment No. 62 Offered by Mr. Amash
The Acting CHAIR. The unfinished business is the demand for a
recorded vote on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Michigan
(Mr. Amash) on which further proceedings were postponed and on which
the ayes prevailed by voice vote.
The Clerk will redesignate the amendment.
The Clerk redesignated the amendment.
Recorded Vote
The Acting CHAIR. A recorded vote has been demanded.
A recorded vote was ordered.
The Acting CHAIR. This is a 2-minute vote.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 212,
noes 208, not voting 11, as follows:
[Roll No. 500]
AYES--212
Adams
Aderholt
Akin
Alexander
Amash
Austria
Bachmann
Bachus
Barletta
Bartlett
Barton (TX)
Bass (NH)
Benishek
Berg
Biggert
Bilirakis
Black
Blackburn
Bonner
Boustany
Brady (TX)
Brooks
Broun (GA)
Buchanan
Bucshon
Buerkle
Burgess
Burton (IN)
Calvert
Camp
Campbell
Canseco
Cantor
Capito
Carter
Cassidy
Chabot
Chaffetz
Coble
Coffman (CO)
Conaway
Cravaack
Crawford
Davis (KY)
Denham
Dent
DesJarlais
Diaz-Balart
Dold
Dreier
Duffy
Duncan (SC)
Duncan (TN)
Ellmers
Farenthold
Fincher
Flake
Fleischmann
Fleming
Flores
Forbes
Fortenberry
Foxx
Franks (AZ)
Frelinghuysen
Gallegly
Gardner
Garrett
Gibbs
Gibson
Gingrey (GA)
Gohmert
Goodlatte
Gosar
Gowdy
Granger
Graves (GA)
Graves (MO)
Griffin (AR)
Griffith (VA)
Guthrie
Hall
Hanna
Harper
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Harris
Hartzler
Hastings (WA)
Hayworth
Heck
Hensarling
Herger
Herrera Beutler
Huelskamp
Huizenga (MI)
Hultgren
Hunter
Hurt
Issa
Jenkins
Johnson (IL)
Johnson (OH)
Johnson, Sam
Jordan
Kelly
King (IA)
King (NY)
Kingston
Kinzinger (IL)
Kline
Labrador
Lamborn
Lance
Landry
Lankford
Latham
Latta
Lewis (CA)
Long
Luetkemeyer
Lummis
Lungren, Daniel E.
Manzullo
Marchant
Marino
McCarthy (CA)
McCaul
McClintock
McCotter
McHenry
McKeon
McKinley
McMorris Rodgers
Mica
Miller (FL)
Miller (MI)
Miller, Gary
Mulvaney
Murphy (PA)
Myrick
Neugebauer
Noem
Nugent
Nunes
Nunnelee
Olson
Palazzo
Paul
Paulsen
Pearce
Pence
Petri
Pitts
Poe (TX)
Pompeo
Posey
Price (GA)
Quayle
Reed
Rehberg
Reichert
Renacci
Ribble
Rigell
Rivera
Roby
Roe (TN)
Rogers (KY)
Rogers (MI)
Rohrabacher
Rokita
Rooney
Roskam
Ross (FL)
Royce
Runyan
Ryan (WI)
Scalise
Schilling
Schmidt
Schock
Schweikert
Scott (SC)
Sensenbrenner
Sessions
Shuster
Simpson
Smith (NE)
Smith (TX)
Southerland
Stearns
Stivers
Stutzman
Terry
Thompson (PA)
Thornberry
Tipton
Turner
Upton
Walberg
Walden
Walsh (IL)
Webster
West
Westmoreland
Whitfield
Wilson (SC)
Wittman
Womack
Woodall
Yoder
Young (FL)
Young (IN)
NOES--208
Ackerman
Altmire
Andrews
Baca
Baldwin
Barrow
Bass (CA)
Becerra
Berkley
Berman
Bilbray
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (NY)
Bishop (UT)
Boren
Boswell
Brady (PA)
Braley (IA)
Brown (FL)
Butterfield
Capps
Capuano
Cardoza
Carnahan
Carney
Carson (IN)
Castor (FL)
Chandler
Chu
Cicilline
Clarke (MI)
Clarke (NY)
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Cohen
Cole
Connolly (VA)
Conyers
Cooper
Costa
Costello
Courtney
Crenshaw
Critz
Crowley
Cuellar
Cummings
Davis (CA)
Davis (IL)
DeFazio
DeGette
DeLauro
Deutch
Dicks
Dingell
Doggett
Donnelly (IN)
Doyle
Edwards
Ellison
Emerson
Engel
Eshoo
Farr
Fattah
Filner
Fitzpatrick
Frank (MA)
Fudge
Garamendi
Gerlach
Gonzalez
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Grimm
Gutierrez
Hanabusa
Hastings (FL)
Heinrich
Higgins
Himes
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Hirono
Hochul
Holden
Holt
Honda
Hoyer
Inslee
Israel
Jackson (IL)
Jackson Lee (TX)
Johnson (GA)
Johnson, E. B.
Jones
Kaptur
Kildee
Kind
Kissell
Kucinich
Langevin
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
LaTourette
Lee (CA)
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lipinski
LoBiondo
Loebsack
Lofgren, Zoe
Lowey
Lucas
Lujan
Lynch
Maloney
Markey
Matheson
Matsui
McCarthy (NY)
McCollum
McDermott
McGovern
McNerney
Meehan
Meeks
Michaud
Miller (NC)
Miller, George
Moore
Moran
Murphy (CT)
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal
Olver
Owens
Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor (AZ)
Payne
Pelosi
Perlmutter
Peters
Peterson
Pingree (ME)
Platts
Polis
Price (NC)
Quigley
Rahall
Rangel
Reyes
Richardson
Richmond
Rogers (AL)
Ros-Lehtinen
Ross (AR)
Rothman (NJ)
Roybal-Allard
Ruppersberger
Rush
Ryan (OH)
Sanchez, Linda T.
Sanchez, Loretta
Sarbanes
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schrader
Schwartz
Scott (VA)
Scott, Austin
Scott, David
Serrano
Sewell
Sherman
Shimkus
Shuler
Sires
Slaughter
Smith (NJ)
Smith (WA)
Speier
Stark
Sullivan
Sutton
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Tiberi
Tierney
Tonko
Tsongas
Van Hollen
Velazquez
Visclosky
Walz (MN)
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Waxman
Welch
Wilson (FL)
Wolf
Woolsey
Wu
Yarmuth
NOT VOTING--11
Blumenauer
Bono Mack
Culberson
Giffords
Guinta
Keating
Mack
McIntyre
Towns
Watt
Young (AK)
Announcement by the Acting Chair
The Acting CHAIR (during the vote). One minute remains in the vote.
{time} 1925
Mr. CONYERS and Ms. JACKSON LEE of Texas changed their vote from
``aye'' to ``no.''
Messrs. TURNER and NUGENT changed their vote from ``no'' to ``aye.''
So the amendment was agreed to.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
Amendment Offered by Mr. Sessions
The Acting CHAIR. The unfinished business is the demand for a
recorded vote on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Texas (Mr.
Sessions) on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the
ayes prevailed by voice vote.
The Clerk will redesignate the amendment.
The Clerk redesignated the amendment.
Recorded Vote
The Acting CHAIR. A recorded vote has been demanded.
A recorded vote was ordered.
The Acting CHAIR. This is a 2-minute vote.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 217,
noes 204, not voting 10, as follows:
[Roll No. 501]
AYES--217
Adams
Aderholt
Akin
Alexander
Amash
Austria
Bachmann
Bachus
Barletta
Bartlett
Barton (TX)
Bass (NH)
Benishek
Berg
Biggert
Bilbray
Bilirakis
Black
Blackburn
Bonner
Boustany
Brady (TX)
Brooks
Broun (GA)
Buchanan
Bucshon
Buerkle
Burgess
Burton (IN)
Calvert
Camp
Campbell
Canseco
Cantor
Carter
Cassidy
Chabot
Chaffetz
Coble
Coffman (CO)
Conaway
Connolly (VA)
Cravaack
Crawford
Crenshaw
Davis (KY)
Denham
Dent
DesJarlais
Diaz-Balart
Dold
Dreier
Duffy
Duncan (SC)
Duncan (TN)
Ellmers
Farenthold
Fincher
Flake
Fleischmann
Fleming
Flores
Forbes
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NOES--204
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NOT VOTING--10
Blumenauer
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Giffords
Guinta
Keating
Mack
Towns
Watt
Young (AK)
Announcement by the Acting Chair
The Acting CHAIR (during the vote). One minute remains in the vote.
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So the amendment was agreed to.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will read.
The Clerk read as follows:
Sec. 8128. Not later than 90 days after the date of the
enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Defense shall submit
to the congressional defense committees a report on the
approximately $100,000,000,000 in efficiency savings
identified by the military departments in the defense budget
covering fiscal years 2012 through 2016 that are to be
reinvested in the priorities of the military departments.
Such report shall include an analysis of--
(1) each savings identified by the military departments,
including--
(A) the budget account from which such savings will be
derived;
(B) the number of military personnel and full-time civilian
employees of the Federal Government affected by such savings;
(C) the estimated reductions in the number and funding of
contractor personnel caused by such savings; and
(D) a specific description of activities or services that
will be affected by such savings, including the locations of
such activities or services; and
(2) each reinvestment planned to be funded with such
savings, including--
(A) with respect to such reinvestment in procurement and
research, development, test and evaluation accounts, the
budget account to which such savings will be reinvested,
including, by line item, the number of items to be procured,
as shown in annual P-1 and R-1 documents;
(B) with respect to such reinvestment in military personnel
and operation and maintenance accounts, the budget account
and the subactivity (as shown in annual--1 and O-1 budget
documents) to which such savings will be reinvested;
(C) the number of military personnel and full-time civilian
employees of the Federal Government affected by such
reinvestment;
(D) the estimated number and funding of contractor
personnel affected by such reinvestment; and
(E) a specific description of activities or services that
will be affected by such reinvestment, including the
locations of such activities or services.
Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman from Massachusetts is recognized for
5 minutes.
Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Chairman, I rise in support of amendments to this
title that cut funds, reduce our military footprint, and move to bring
our troops home from Afghanistan. And I rise in opposition to the
underlying bill.
I want to commend the ranking member of the committee, Congressman
Norm Dicks from Washington, for his leadership in calling for a fresh
look at how we carry out military operations in Afghanistan and the
need for a strategy that brings our troops home sooner rather than
later.
Mr. Chairman, I just returned from a trip to Afghanistan. I cannot
describe how impressed I am with the commitment, the dedication, and
the work carried out every single day by our men and women in uniform,
and those in the civilian services. I met and spoke with them in Kabul,
Marja, at large bases like Bagram Air Force Base, and in small
villages. Quite simply, Mr. Chairman, they are incredible.
But over and over and over again I heard the same message: This is
not sustainable. The strategy that we are pursuing in Afghanistan is
not sustainable. And it is costing us too much in human lives and
financial resources to continue. It can't continue for another 18
months, as called for by the President, let alone even longer.
I stand here tonight more convinced than ever that it is time to
forge a new path, a new strategy, built upon past and present
accomplishments, but more aggressively focused on more rapidly reducing
the U.S. military footprint in Afghanistan than the plan described last
month by the President, accelerating the transition of combat
operations to Afghanistan authorities, and an intense international and
regional effort to secure a political solution to the Afghan conflict
and define a genuine regional coordinated effort that safeguards the
region and the world from terrorist threats.
While I was in Afghanistan, General Petraeus invited me and two
Members I was traveling with, Congressman Allen West and Duncan Hunter,
Jr., to attend a ramp ceremony. We may not always agree on policy, but
we were united in how respectful, emotional, and moving we found the
ceremony honoring the fallen soldiers who were being transported by the
C-130 on their final journey home.
Mr. Chairman, 1,650 American service men and women have sacrificed
their lives in the Afghanistan war. While I was in Afghanistan, six
more were killed. It was a reminder of the enormous sacrifice that our
soldiers are paying. 2010 was the deadliest year of conflict to date in
the Afghanistan war for U.S. and coalition forces, and for Afghan
civilians. This year, 2011, is on pace to be the deadliest year of the
war. We need to end the war, not sustain it, Mr. Chairman.
We are borrowing $8 billion to $10 billion each month for military
operations alone. Borrowing, Mr. Chairman, borrowing. We know we can't
sustain that. And we know that the Afghan Government and security
forces don't have the resources or the political will to sustain that
level of resources once we leave. We need to find a new strategy and
purpose to help bring this conflict to an end.
The President and congressional leaders are in negotiations,
grappling with how to deal with the national debt. It can't be done if
we don't find the means and the political will to end this war sooner
rather than later. According to CBO, we could save $1.3 trillion by
ending these wars. That's trillion with a ``t,'' Mr. Chairman. We have
spent approximately $3.7 trillion since 9/11 in Iraq and Afghanistan.
We cannot afford another decade like the last one. It is simply not
sustainable.
We need to also understand that jobs and economic security and
economic strength are central parts of our national security. While we
serve as an ATM machine for a corrupt government in Kabul, we tell our
own people that we have no money for roads, and bridges, and schools,
and teachers, and police, and firefighters, and jobs here at home.
Enough. I urge all my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to support
amendments that reduce our spending and military footprint in
Afghanistan, help bring our troops home sooner rather than later, and
call for a new strategy and a new direction in Afghanistan.
Mr. Chairman, I will be submitting for the Record two articles, one
from the Washington Post entitled ``CBO: Ending the Wars Could Save
$1.4 Trillion,'' and an article that appeared in Scientific American
entitled ``Legacy of Mental Health Problems From Iraq and Afghanistan
Wars Will Be Long-lived.''
Mr. Chairman, the time has come for us to come together and find a
different strategy in Afghanistan, one that will bring our troops home
sooner rather than later. It is time to end this war.
[From The Washington Post, June 23, 2011]
CBO: Ending the Wars Could Save $1.4 Trillion
(By Ezra Klein)
It's increasingly clear that a deal on the budget deficit
will have to include a lot of spending cuts that Democrats
can deny are spending cuts and at least some tax increases
that Republicans can deny are tax increases. I'll get to the
tax increases in a future post. But if you're looking for the
spending cuts, look no further than the wars.
Last night, President Obama announced that ``the tide of
war is receding,'' and that he will soon bring the Iraq and
Afghanistan wars ``to a responsible end.'' Left unsaid is the
effect that could have on our projected deficits. According
to the Congressional Budget Office, we're talking big money:
$1.4 trillion, to be exact.
That has less to do with the likely cost of the wars than
the way CBO officials estimate future spending. In the case
of discretionary spending--which is the pot of money that
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goes to the wars--they simply take current spending and
assume it grows at the rate of inflation. So though it's
clear our wars are winding down, they won't count the savings
from them in their projections until there's explicit
government policy that winds them down.
But if they can be convinced, they've made clear that
they're willing to count big savings. ``In 2010, the number
of U.S. troops (active-duty, reserves, and National Guard
personnel) deployed for war-related activities averaged about
215,000,'' CBO said its January budget outlook (pdf). ``In
the alternative scenario presented here, the number of
military personnel deployed for war-related purposes would
decline over a five-year period to an average of 180,000 in
2011, 130,000 in 2012, 100,000 in 2013, 65,000 in 2014, and
45,000 in 2015 and thereafter. Under this scenario, total
discretionary outlays over the 2012-2021 period would be $1.1
trillion less than the amount in the baseline. Debt-service
costs would bring the cumulative savings relative to the
baseline to about $1.4 trillion over the coming decade.''
I'm told that a big chunk of these savings were included in
the debt-ceiling deal that, until today, Eric Cantor and Jon
Kyl were negotiating with the Democrats. But eventually,
we're going to have some kind of deal on the debt ceiling,
and I'd bet quite a bit f this money will be in there. The
best type of deficit reduction, after all, is the kind you
were going to do anyway.
____
[From the Scientific American, June 27, 2011]
Legacy of Mental Health Problems from Iraq and Afghanistan Wars Will Be
Long-Lived
(By John Matson)
As Operation Enduring Freedom, the war on terror in
Afghanistan, winds down and some 33,000 U.S. servicemen and
servicewomen return from overseas in the next year, a plan
announced by President Obama on June 22, the psychological
issues that veterans face back home are likely to increase.
Some of the key psychological issues affecting the
approximately two million American troops deployed to Iraq
and Afghanistan since 2001 have been traumatic brain injury
(TBI), depression and post-traumatic stress disorder (FTSD)--
and the diagnoses often overlap. A 2008 report by the RAND
Corp. think tank estimated that more than 26 percent of
troops may return from the wars on terror with mental health
issues.
It is reasonable to expect a continuation of these brain
and mental health trends, only multiplied by the anticipated
dramatic uptick in returning troops. On top of that, such
issues also tend to crop up several months or even years
after service members settle in, rather than directly after
homecoming, as researchers learned following America's wars
in the late 20th century. A false honeymoon can deceive
health care workers and family into a perception that all is
well among members of the military reentering society
stateside.
After the withdrawal of U.S. soldiers from Vietnam in 1973
``the only thing that happened is that rates of problems went
up,'' says George Mason University assistant professor of
clinical psychology Keith Renshaw. ``The longer people are
back, the more people come forward as potentially
struggling.'' A study in the April issue of the Journal of
Affective Disorders showed that among service members injured
in Iraq or Afghanistan, health care usage--and psychiatric
problems--increased over time.
The influx of veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan into the
military mental health system has yet to peak, but it is
already well underway. There is some concern, however, that
the health care system is unprepared to handle the care of
returning troops. A 2010 report from the Institute of
Medicine identified a ``critical shortage of health care
professionals--especially those specializing in mental
health--to meet the demands of those returning from theater
in Iraq and Afghanistan and their family members.''
TBI is especially common: roughly 30,000 servicemembers
were diagnosed annually in 2008, 2009 and 2010, according to
U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) figures. Most of those
diagnoses were for concussions or other relatively mild forms
of brain injury. PTSD is also worryingly prevalent--in a RAND
survey, 13.8 percent of veterans and returning soldiers from
Iraq and Afghanistan met the criteria for PTSD, meaning that
some 275,000 U.S. service members may be affected in total.
The RAND report predicted that the mental health needs of
returning Iraq and Afghanistan veterans will increase over
time. ``There are a lot of concerns that what we see now are
underestimates, if anything,'' Renshaw says.
Many of the afflicted veterans will not seek help, and
others will not do so for some time. ``There's a lag time
between when people serve and when they actually come in,''
says Shira Maguen, an assistant professor at the University
of California, San Francisco, School of Medicine and a
psychologist at the San Francisco Veterans Affairs (VA)
Medical Center. ``For many of those people there are a lot of
barriers at this point, the biggest of which is probably
stigma.'' Renshaw notes that some soldiers who remain active
in the armed forces resist seeking help because they do not
want to endanger their military careers by acknowledging
psychological issues. Others seek help in civilian practice
rather than in the military health system.
The DoD and the VA have taken steps to prepare for the
forecast rise in PTSD cases, highlighting two approaches to
treatment--cognitive processing therapy and prolonged
exposure therapy--that studies have shown to be effective.
And June 27 has been designated National PTSD Awareness Day.
``They're rolling out a massive dissemination effort,''
Renshaw says. ``But I don't think we're at the point that
we're ready yet.''
New veterans suffering from PTSD may well fare better than
their predecessors who served in Vietnam, as the disorder was
only recognized by the American Psychiatric Association in
1980. ``I think we've learned a tremendous amount from
Vietnam and from prior conflicts,'' Maguen says. ``I think
we're in a unique position now to deal with it.''
Even with lessons learned from Vietnam and the Persian Gulf
wars, however, veterans of Operation Enduring Freedom and
Operation Iraqi Freedom present a special treatment
challenge. In some ways the new crop of veterans have had
similar combat experiences to Vietnam veterans. Both groups
fought in wars without clearly delineated front lines, where
ambush and insurgency are a constant threat. But the types of
combat exposure have changed, as have the potential triggers
for negative psychological reactions later in life. For
instance, Renshaw says, the urban component of the wars on
terror and the threat of improvised explosive devices have
made driving and traffic jams problematic triggers for some
veterans. ``Our methodology is still evolving to catch up
with the nature of these conflicts,'' he says. ``I think this
is something we're going to be working on and dealing with
for a long time.''
I yield back the balance of my time.
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Mr. JONES. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman from North Carolina is recognized for
5 minutes.
Mr. JONES. Mr. Chairman, I join in this effort.
I tell you, without any pride but with humility, that this past
weekend I signed 31 letters to families and extended families who have
lost loved ones in Afghanistan and in Iraq.
At this time I have signed over 10,374 letters because of my mistake
in voting to send our kids to Iraq, which was an unnecessary war with
misinformation led by the previous administration. So I join my
colleagues today on both sides of the aisle, and I thank those who
offered this amendment.
This past weekend I decided to email my adviser, who is a former
commandant of the Marine Corps, and said, What do you think about
President Obama's plans?
I will read just two short points to you: ``I think the time is too
long. I think he needs to increase the number of troops coming out of
the country more and quicker.''
And his last point: ``Get real with training and army and police
force. All we are doing is training eventual new members of the
Taliban. Trainers are doing a wonderful job, but we don't have the time
to make an army. Every day someone dies. Every day an American dies or
gets his or her legs blown off.''
Mr. Chairman, to the left of me is a poster that was in the Raleigh,
North Carolina, paper. Too many times, as we debate and there are
eloquent speakers on the floor of the House, but we don't see any
faces. We don't see any broken arms or legs.
Here is a young lady holding a little baby in her arms, and the
little baby is looking at the officer who is presenting her with a
draped flag. How often does this happen throughout America? We never
see it.
It is time to bring our troops home. They have done everything they
were asked to do by President Bush, to get al Qaeda, who was
responsible for 9/11, to get bin Laden. We have done all of that. We
have done everything we can do.
And as my friend from Massachusetts said, $10 billion a month and we
can't fix the schools, we can't fix the roads here in North Carolina
and throughout America.
I'm from North Carolina. I know what's happening to my State. I know
what's happening to the other States.
Mr. Chairman, it is time to bring them home. We don't need any more
babies coming to their moms and dads and saying, when is daddy coming
home? When is mother coming home? And they are being told they are not
coming home. They are gone.
They have given their lives for America. We have done enough for
Afghanistan. It has a corrupt leader and a corrupt government, and we
need to come home.
I yield back the balance of my time.
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Mr. NADLER. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman from New York is recognized for 5
minutes.
Mr. NADLER. Mr. Chairman, there will be a number of amendments
offered in the next little while by Mr. Garamendi, by Ms. Lee, myself
and Mr. Jones and by others all in various ways seeking to speed our
exit from Afghanistan. I support them all.
Two weeks ago, the President proposed that we continue fighting in
Afghanistan for at least 3\1/2\ more years. In those 3\1/2\ years, more
of our soldiers will die, more of our Treasury will be spent and, in
the end, we will not be any closer to creating a stable Afghanistan or
to enhancing our safety.
The whole premise of this war is wrong. Fighting in Afghanistan does
not enhance the security of the United States. Ten years ago we were
attacked on 9/11 by al Qaeda. Al Qaeda had bases in Afghanistan, and at
that time it made sense to go in and destroy those bases, and we did.
But the CIA tells us that there are now fewer than 100 al Qaeda
personnel in all of Afghanistan. So why are we still fighting there?
Why will we still have 70,000 troops in Afghanistan at the end of 2012,
troops who will continue to risk their lives every day in a war that
has already claimed too many American lives?
And we will continue pouring billions of dollars into an intractable
mess when we should be devoting taxpayer funds to our own economy, to
our own jobs, our own housing, our own social programs and our own
education.
Afghanistan is in the middle of what is so far a 35-year civil war.
If we continue on this course, in 3 years there will be several
thousand more American soldiers dead, several hundred billion more
dollars wasted, and two or three more provinces labeled pacified.
But as soon as we leave, now, or in 2014, or 2016 or whenever, those
provinces will become unpacified. The Taliban and the warlords will
step up the fighting, and the Afghan civil war will resume its natural
course.
Our troops are fighting valiantly, Mr. Chairman, but they are in the
wrong mission. We should recognize that rebuilding Afghanistan is both
beyond our ability and beyond our mandate to prevent terrorists from
attacking the United States.
To delay withdrawal of our forces and continue this terrible policy
at so high a cost is quite simply unconscionable. It is unjustifiable
to sacrifice more lives and more money on this futile endeavor.
Mr. Chairman, we should withdraw our troops now, all of them, as
rapidly as physically possible.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. HONDA. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the requisite number of
words.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman from California is recognized for 5
minutes.
Mr. HONDA. Mr. Chairman, on March 16, 2011, I joined my cochairs of
the Congressional Progressive Caucus Task Force on Peace and Security
and 76 other Members of Congress in sending a letter to the President
asking him to move swiftly to end America's longest war, the war in
Afghanistan.
Since then, the cochairs have continued to call on the administration
to move towards a significant, swift and sizeable reduction in our
troops in Afghanistan, meeting or exceeding the number of troops on the
ground before the escalation.
Similarly, the Democratic National Committee, of which I am vice
chair, called for a ``sizeable and significant'' drawdown beginning in
July. Even the U.S. Conference of Mayors called for an end to the
Afghanistan war. In poll after poll, the majority of Americans are
consistently calling for an end to this war.
A significant redeployment of U.S. troops from Afghanistan, beginning
of this month, would have sent a clear message that the United States
does not seek a permanent presence in Afghanistan.
This move would recognize that we cannot afford the war in
Afghanistan, costing nearly $10 billion per month, while American
families struggle to stay afloat amid the slow recovery of our Nation's
economy.
The cochairs of the CPC Task Force on Peace and Security believe that
a significant, swift, and sizeable troop reduction in Afghanistan is
necessary, especially given the fact that the CBO reported recently
that ending the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq will save this country
$1.7 trillion, and especially given the fact that a recent Brown
University study shows that the United States has spent $3.7 trillion
in these wars since 2001.
Anything less hurts our Nation's future and is unacceptable. It is
time to focus on securing a future of economic opportunity and
prosperity for the American people, and the President must move swiftly
and boldly to end the war in Afghanistan and bring our troops home now.
The President's announcement last month does not reflect a
significant policy change in Afghanistan. This strategy does not
represent a drawdown in Afghanistan, but rather aims at maintaining the
status quo through the end of 2012.
Simply removing the 30,000 surge troops from Afghanistan means that
by the end of the summer of 2012 we will be exactly where we were in
late 2009. Tens of thousands of American soldiers will continue to
fight a battle that their commanders insist will only end with a
political solution.
Peace in Afghanistan will depend ultimately on an Afghan solution,
not on American soldiers. Everyone seems tired of this war, from
Republicans and Democrats in Washington, to Afghans in Kabul, to
Americans in Kansas. Administration officials acknowledged that due to
America's mounting debt and deficits, war costs at nearly $120 billion
annually for Afghanistan alone are no longer sustainable.
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Republicans gave similar ground with Appropriations Chair Harold
Rogers and Defense Subcommittee Member Jack Kingston expressing concern
about the costs, the mission, and the lack of progress--bolstering
Republican Senator Dick Lugar's call for troop withdrawal from
Afghanistan. Nearly half the House weighed in during the recent Defense
authorization debate with a call for an accelerated plan to draw down
troops and transition to Afghan control.
Moving beyond what Washington wants, consider the Afghans, who are at
the receiving end of all of this. After a series of serious civilian
casualties resulting from multiple indiscriminate NATO bombings, Afghan
President Hamid Karzai had declared opposition to any and all air
strikes on Afghan homes. This adds to Karzai's insistence that foreign
forces must end night raids, stop unilateral operations, and stay off
roads and out of Afghan villages.
The Afghan people are no more pleased than Karzai with America's
continued presence, hardly a surprise given that General Petraeus has
increased bombing throughout the country by 80 percent in the last year
alone. According to a recent poll, nearly six out of 10 Afghans said
Western troops must leave on or before the original July 2011
withdrawal date. Only 17 percent say that the deployment should be
maintained longer.
After spending hundreds of billions of American tax dollars, the
security and day-to-day life in many regions of Afghanistan aren't
improving. Crime, economic opportunity, and freedom of movement are
getting worse, not better. Availability of electricity, food, medical
care, and schools has shown little or no improvement in recent years.
So, for all these reasons and more, the case is clear: We need to end
this war in Afghanistan, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. GARAMENDI. I move to strike the last word.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman from California is recognized for 5
minutes.
Mr. GARAMENDI. I rise in opposition to the underlying bill and will
seek an amendment shortly.
Memorial Day was a time when four of my colleagues and I traveled
throughout Afghanistan. We learned a great deal, and what we did learn
we brought home.
1,650 American men and women have died in Afghanistan, and yet the
incredible dedication of American soldiers was easy to see. They risk
their lives every day. And it is with the utmost respect that we honor
them on Memorial Day and beyond. I have great respect for the President
and recognize
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the difficult situation, the decisions that he must make; but, frankly,
I think he made the wrong decision.
The killing of bin Laden gave us the opportunity to pivot, to go in
the direction that we must ultimately go, which is to focus like a
laser on al Qaeda, wherever it is in this world, including our own
country. We must do that. And yet the decision to maintain in
Afghanistan a troop level that really reflects what existed in 2009 is
not sustainable. It's costing us a fortune, a fortune that we can ill
afford.
This entire town is caught up in a debate over the deficit and the
pending default crisis, and yet we seem to want to continue to pour
money into Afghanistan, into a five-way civil war for which there is no
military solution. Negotiations are essential. Yet is this country
pushing forward the negotiations? If so, it's in secret, and I
certainly hope it is there, because therein lies the solution.
I think we don't need 100,000, 50,000, 60,000, troops in Afghanistan.
We really only need a handful to focus on al Qaeda, wherever they may
be in that region. And so if we were to draw down our troops in the
next 18 months to 25,000 in Afghanistan and then 10,000 in 2013, we
would begin to get to a level over an appropriate course of time. And
it is this House's responsibility to put forth an appropriation bill
that provides money for only that, and no more, to limit the funding.
It's pretty clear the President has the power to initiate a war. It's
equally clear that we have the only power, the only power to fund the
war. And if we say no, then this war will cease. If we say only this
amount of money for only this purpose, then this war will rapidly
diminish. There will be amendments on the floor shortly to achieve that
goal. And we ought to proceed in that way.
We need to rebuild America. We need to bring the money and the troops
home and rebuild this Nation. We can do so when this war is over. Until
then, this is a sump in which we are pouring the lives of American men
and women and even more Afghan men and women and our treasure to the
detriment of this Nation's economic strength.
I oppose this war, along with my colleagues, and I would ask this
House, Democrat and Republican alike, to use the power of the purse to
bring this war to a rapid and appropriate close and fund the
negotiations, fund the war on al Qaeda, not the war in Afghanistan.
Mr. McGOVERN. Will the gentleman yield?
Mr. GARAMENDI. I yield to the gentleman from Massachusetts.
Mr. McGOVERN. I want to thank the gentleman for raising the issue of
cost, but I want my colleagues to understand what we are actually
paying for military operations in Afghanistan.
We are borrowing $10 billion per month, $2.3 billion per week, $328.3
million per day, $13.7 million per hour, $228,000 per minute. And we
are having a debate right now over how we get the debt under control.
And these borrowed moneys are not even a subject of discussion. If you
want to get the debt down, you've got to deal with these war costs. And
I can't believe that for those who are advocating the status quo that
they don't want to pay for it, it's going on our credit card, and I
think that is unacceptable. This is an enormous cost to us here in our
own country.
I thank the gentleman.
The Acting CHAIR. The time of the gentleman has expired.
Ms. CHU. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentlewoman from California is recognized for 5
minutes.
Ms. CHU. I am opposed to the underlying bill because it does not do
enough to withdraw our troops from Afghanistan.
Earlier this month, the President made an important announcement. He
plans to withdraw 10,000 troops from Afghanistan in the next 6 months
and another 20,000 by next summer. This is a step in the right
direction, and I commend the President for following through with the
drawdown plan.
But the American people are crying for a significant and sizable
drawdown, and we are still too far from that. Even after these troops
come home, which won't be for another year and a half, we will still be
exactly where we were in 2009. Seventy thousand American soldiers will
still be serving in Afghanistan, and I can't help but wonder why.
The ongoing financial and human costs of this war are now
indefensible. We spend $2 billion a week on the war effort in
Afghanistan. And what's worse is that our own money is working against
us.
Last year, I was outraged to learn that taxpayers are spending $2.16
billion on private contractors in Afghanistan. These contractors use
part of the money to pay off local warlords, which then ends up in the
Taliban's hand. So, in effect, we are funding both sides of the same
war.
This corruption and waste of hard-earned American dollars is the
direct result of unreliable counsel and a lack of perspective, and it's
costing us a whopping $100 billion a year. That's five times more than
we spend on Pell grants every year, financial aid to put American kids
through college. That's double what we spend on Medicaid that keeps all
Americans healthy regardless of income. And $100 billion would
completely pay for the Homeland Security Department, Commerce
Department, Department of Science and the entire judicial branch
combined. When money is tight and Congress is trying to slash Medicare
and Social Security to keep this Nation afloat, it is irresponsible to
keep writing blank checks for this war.
But, sadly, that's not the largest toll of this war. Since 9/11,
we've lost over 1,600 American lives. Over 11,000 troops have been
wounded, and an untold number of Afghan civilians have lost their lives
after a decade of war.
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And it is not getting any better. In fact, last year was the most
deadly year on record for U.S. troops in Afghanistan.
Al Qaeda is no longer in Afghanistan but scattered around the world.
It did not take 100,000 troops to find Osama bin Laden, and it does not
take a military occupation of Afghanistan to protect us from terrorist
threats. By failing to significantly draw down the number of troops in
Afghanistan, we continue to focus efforts away from the terrorists and
needlessly put American soldiers in the line of fire.
But this story is about more than just numbers and figures; it is
about real people who sacrifice everything to keep us safe. On Sunday,
April 3, of this year, a 21-year-old young marine named Harry Lew died
while serving the country in Afghanistan. He was the son of Sandy and
Allen Lew, the brother of Carmen Lew, and he was my nephew.
Harry died while serving on watch duty in Helmand Province. His
unit's goal was to provide security to locals and to promote
development in the region. But 3 short months before he was set to
return home, he was gone.
Ending this war will save American lives. Ending it will let us focus
on fighting terrorism around the globe. Ending the war will save money
at a time when we need it the most. It is time to end the war in
Afghanistan, bring our troops home, and begin seriously addressing our
real security needs.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. LEWIS of California. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last
word.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman is recognized for 5 minutes.
Mr. LEWIS of California. I very much appreciate the time, Mr.
Chairman, and I rise only because I can't help but be moved by the
Progressive Caucus' interest in getting us out of Afghanistan as
quickly as possible.
I know of those who are very concerned about America being involved
in wars anywhere. It was not my intention to speak about this subject
until I heard my friend, the gentleman from California (Mr. Garamendi)
who has an amendment later that would strike the funding for
approximately 2\1/2\ months of the proposed cost of this effort in
Afghanistan.
And as I thought about that, I would want to caution my friend, Mr.
Garamendi, and others, about the role in Afghanistan. Indeed, it is
important for us to note, those of us who may have read ``Charlie
Wilson's War,'' and I am sure my colleague has read it thoroughly, but
Charlie Wilson was a colleague of mine on the Subcommittee on Defense
who first raised the prospect of challenges in Afghanistan.
At that point in time, the Soviet Union was attempting to move into
Afghanistan to take over that entire country, giving them access to the
entire region, a warm water port, and
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otherwise. If it had not been for, in my judgment, the effort as a
result of Charlie Wilson's war and the efforts of Pope John Paul, who
was then the bishop from Poland, perhaps it is very possible that the
Soviet Union never would have fallen. But, indeed, Charlie Wilson's war
created a circumstance where the Soviets did withdraw from Afghanistan.
And so we were right on the edge of opportunity and peace and freedom
in Afghanistan.
And what I would caution my colleague from California about is,
following that, what did America do? America did what we often do in
the world where there is strife and struggle, where we are asked to
play a role in leadership, providing for opportunity and change for
peace. The vacuum that was left in Afghanistan as a result of our
walking away after the war, after the Soviets left, was that vacuum.
And within the vacuum, there came terrorists who would have America and
freedom in mind. Indeed, as a result of that vacuum, al Qaeda, Taliban,
and others got strength and found a terrorist center. And now we are
involved in a war that involves the future of the world, not just peace
for the world but American peace as well.
Indeed, I would be very cautious as we go about suggesting that we
ought to automatically walk away from the commander in chief's plan.
Indeed, if we are not careful, the vacuum will catch up with us, and
America will find itself in a much broader and a much more intense
struggle.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. COHEN. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word.
The Acting CHAIR (Mr. Grimm). The gentleman from Tennessee is
recognized for 5 minutes.
Mr. COHEN. Before I yield to my colleague from California to respond,
I would like to mention, and I appreciate Mr. Lewis' history, but I
would suggest to you that al Qaeda could have found a base in Yemen,
they could have found a base in the Sudan, they could have found a base
in other places. There was nothing particularly unique about
Afghanistan that allowed them to have that base there. The fact is that
we went into a country to fight al Qaeda, which was all in the
mountains in Pakistan, and even in the cities in Pakistan, probably
with the knowledge of the Pakistani government, and we have wasted a
lot of money and lives in an area where we didn't need to be because
that war will continue.
There are only 100 al Qaeda, give or take, left in Afghanistan, but
there are al Qaeda in other spots in the Middle East, and al Qaeda's
people have plotted terrorist activities from Germany and from other
places in Europe. They don't need Osama bin Laden's base to have
activity. There is nothing unique with Afghanistan.
As far as the Soviet Union, the Soviet Union went down for goodly
reasons, because of all of the money they spent in Afghanistan. True,
we were there fighting them; but their attempt at gaining empire, which
has been the cause of the loss of many empires, stretching too far and
going beyond their supply lines, killed them. They spent money there.
And they'd like us to stay there. They are being real nice to us.
They're helping us with bases to bring in armaments and troops and
supplies.
Come on, America, spend your money. Break your government. Come like
we are, broken.
It was a mistake.
I believe that we need to get out of Afghanistan because we are
losing lives and money, and doing it for a reason that is not going to
make our country any better.
Mr. Lewis talked about strife in places in Afghanistan. I will tell
you about strife--in the United States of America, in my city, in
Detroit, in Philadelphia, in Boston, in Chicago. You go to the inner
cities of America, and you will see people without hope and without
opportunity. That is where infrastructure needs to be built. That is
where education needs to be affirmed, not in projects in Afghanistan,
but in the United States of America. And that is what the Conference of
Mayors said, that we cannot afford this; while our cities go to decay
and our people lose their opportunity and our middle class is
destroyed, we fight a war in Afghanistan which was the war of another
generation, which we should have learned from history and the Soviets'
experience and what happened to them. If you don't learn from history,
you are doomed to make the same mistakes. I see that happening.
Admiral Mike Mullen said national debt is our biggest security
threat. Admiral Mullen: National debt is our biggest security threat.
He said at a breakfast just last month in a tribute to our troops
that that is the biggest problem we have. And when you have a problem
like that that is a security interest, you go to your biggest spot
where you can save money, which is the defense budget, and this war
that is draining and has cost us so much--Afghanistan and Iraq.
I have some amendments coming which I am going to offer that would
reduce the amount of money that we spend with the forces, and also the
amount of money that we spend with the infrastructure and the
development there in Afghanistan.
The fact is, just like in Iraq, we put in equipment and buildings and
then we leave, and they don't have the ability to maintain those
buildings or maintain that equipment, and it goes to waste. We don't
need to be wasting our resources, leaving them there where they will
just go to waste. We need to spend those resources in America and
create jobs in America, and hope and opportunity for America.
I yield to the gentleman from Massachusetts.
Mr. McGOVERN. I thank the gentleman for his comments.
I just want to respond to something that Mr. Lewis said, who is a
good friend of mine and whom I respect very much. He talked about the
need for us to be cautious. Well, I wish we were more cautious where we
committed our young men and women in the field of battle.
It is politicians that put our service men and women in harm's way,
and it is politicians that keep this war going. The fact of the matter
is that we have an unreliable partner in Afghanistan. President Karzai
is corrupt. He fixed the last election. I mean, he is denigrating our
service men and women. When I was over there, one of our soldiers from
Massachusetts said to me, What bothers me most is we are risking our
lives to try to help improve the quality of life of people in this
country, and the President of this country, Mr. Karzai, denigrates us,
diminishes what we do, calls us names, accused the United States of
using nuclear weapons in Afghanistan.
The Massachusetts soldier said to me, Do you know what that feels
like?
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Look, we need to rethink our policy in Afghanistan. Nobody is talking
about walking away. What we're saying is that the current policy of
counterinsurgency is going broke.
Mr. COHEN. I yield back the balance of my time.
Ms. LEE. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentlewoman from California is recognized for 5
minutes.
Ms. LEE. I yield to the gentleman from California (Mr. Garamendi).
Mr. GARAMENDI. I thank the gentlelady from California.
Previously, my good friend with whom I've worked for more than 35
years in various levels of government challenged me on the position I
take with regard to winding down quickly the war in Afghanistan. His
recitation of history, while accurate, is woefully incomplete.
Much of what we are now fighting was actually begun by Charlie
Wilson, morphed over this period of time perhaps by Pakistan. But we're
caught in the middle of a civil war, not just a civil war, but a five-
way civil war, one that has gone on for at least the last 35 years. We
are, as my friend Mr. McGovern just stated, backing a government that
is, on the face of it, corrupt by any standard.
So what are we doing here? What is this all about?
In fact, we went into Afghanistan to get al Qaeda, and we did. There
is only a handful there. There are probably far more al Qaeda
sympathizers--and maybe active members--in the United States than in
Afghanistan.
So why do we have over 100,000 American troops and another 40,000
NATO troops in Afghanistan?
I did not suggest that we leave in a vacuum. Instead, I said we leave
a
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small force behind that goes after al Qaeda. Take them out wherever
they happen to be. Bring our troops back home. Go back to the original
mission in Afghanistan. Go after al Qaeda.
You're quite correct, my colleagues. They're in Somalia; they're in
Yemen; and they're in other parts of this world. The more troops we
have in Iraq and Afghanistan, the more reason we give to those who want
to recruit yet more al Qaeda members. This makes no sense going
forward. Yes, we will have a continuing obligation, but if you take a
look at the strategy that is now in place, one that calls upon America
to maintain its troops, then you can count on a larger deficit. That
makes no sense to me. Let's bring our troops home rapidly. The
amendments that will be on the floor will cause that to happen.
We have the power of the purse here. This Nation can no longer
sustain $120 billion a year in Afghanistan when our bridges are
crumbling, when our children are not educated, when we cannot afford in
the budget you're putting forth to feed our children or to care for our
elderly. This war must end, and it must end soon.
I have great respect for the President, but he has got the wrong
strategy. He is continuing on the strategy that by the proof on the
ground does not work. Pivot. Go back to what we once said was our goal.
Get al Qaeda. Take them out wherever they happen to be. We know we can
do it. We have done it.
Anybody who wants to play the al Qaeda game on their side, know that
this Nation has the capability to take you out.
My good friend, Mr. Lewis, the next time you want to recite the
history of Afghanistan, recite the full history of Afghanistan,
including this Nation's 10-year effort and all of the mistakes that we
have made. Let us not compound those mistakes by continuing on the same
course for another 3, 4, 5 years and beyond. It's time to end this war.
It's time to focus on the true enemy here--al Qaeda.
Ms. LEE. I yield back the balance of my time.
Amendment Offered by Mr. Boswell
Mr. BOSWELL. Mr. Chairman, I have an amendment at the desk.
The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will report the amendment.
The Clerk read as follows:
Page 122, line 10, strike ``Not'' and insert ``(a) Not''.
Page 124, after line 7, insert the following:
(b) It is the sense of Congress that suicide prevention
programs should be a priority of the military departments
with respect to reinvesting the efficiency savings described
in subsection (a).
Mr. FRELINGHUYSEN. Mr. Chairman, I reserve a point of order on the
gentleman's amendment.
The Acting CHAIR. A point of order is reserved.
The gentleman from Iowa is recognized for 5 minutes.
Mr. BOSWELL. This is a very simple amendment. It clarifies that the
Defense suicide prevention programs are a priority and should always
remain a priority.
I am not alone in my concern for the rates of suicide among our
servicemembers in the active duty, Guard, and Reserve components. I,
like some of the rest of you, have had that experience with my own
constituency back in the Iowa Reserve.
The Department of Defense has identified large potential savings from
improved efficiencies, totaling as much as $100 billion over the next 5
years. Section 8128 directs the Secretary to report to Congress on how
it will redirect those savings into priorities of the military
departments. However, there is no direction that ensures that the
Secretary include existing suicide programs as ``priorities'' for
reinvestment from these savings.
This amendment simply clarifies that suicide prevention programs--
which already exist and have already been authorized--are a priority
and will remain a priority. We must do everything in our power to
reduce the suicide rates of our men and women in uniform, and this
amendment fulfills that obligation.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Point of Order
Mr. FRELINGHUYSEN. Mr. Chairman, I make a point of order against the
amendment because it proposes to change existing law and constitutes
legislation on an appropriation bill; therefore it violates clause 2 of
rule XXI. The rule states in pertinent part:
``An amendment to a general appropriation bill shall not be in order
if changing existing law.''
This amendment proposes to state a legislative position, and I ask
for a ruling from the Chair.
The Acting CHAIR. Does any other Member wish to be heard?
The gentleman from Iowa.
Mr. BOSWELL. Mr. Chairman, as you might expect, respectfully I rise
in opposition to the point of order.
In accordance with clause 2 of rule XXI, this amendment does not make
a new appropriation; it does not re-appropriate unused funds; it does
not restrict the availability of funds; and it does not change existing
law.
In fact, Defense suicide prevention programs have already been
authorized by law, for example, the Yellow Ribbon Program, which helps
support National Guard and Reserve servicemembers and families. This
amendment simply clarifies that suicide prevention programs--which
already exist and have already been authorized--are a priority and will
always remain a priority. So I humbly suggest that no one in good
conscience could suggest otherwise.
The Acting CHAIR. Does any other Member wish to be heard? If not, the
Chair will rule.
The Chair finds that this amendment includes language expressing the
sense of Congress.
The amendment therefore constitutes legislation in violation of
clause 2 of rule XXI.
The point of order is sustained and the amendment is not in order.
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The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will read.
The Clerk read as follows:
Sec. 8129. None of the funds made available by this Act
may be used to enter into a contract, memorandum of
understanding, or cooperative agreement with, make a grant
to, or provide a loan or loan guarantee to, any corporation
that any unpaid Federal tax liability that has been assessed,
for which all judicial and administrative remedies have been
exhausted or have lapsed, and that is not being paid in a
timely manner pursuant to an agreement with the authority
responsible for collecting the tax liability.
Sec. 8130. None of the funds made available by this Act
may be used to enter into a contract, memorandum of
understanding, or cooperative agreement with, make a grant
to, or provide a loan or loan guarantee to, any corporation
that was convicted of a felony criminal violation under any
Federal law within the preceding 24 months.
TITLE IX
OVERSEAS CONTINGENCY OPERATIONS
MILITARY PERSONNEL
Military Personnel, Army
For an additional amount for ``Military Personnel, Army'',
$6,822,635,000: Provided, That each amount in this paragraph
is designated as being for the global war on terrorism
pursuant to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th Congress).
Amendment Offered by Ms. Lee
Ms. LEE. Mr. Chairman, I have an amendment at the desk.
The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will report the amendment.
The Clerk read as follows:
Page 125, line 6, insert after the dollar amount the
following: ``(reduced by $3,438,789,000)''.
Page 125, line 12, insert after the dollar amount the
following: ``(reduced by $445,117,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $337,774,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $665,978,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $103,610,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $20,878,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $12,714,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $13,411,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $315,703,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $4,719,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $11,012,116,000)''.
Page 127, line 24, insert after the dollar amount the
following: ``(reduced by $2,021,929,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $1,160,729,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $3,010,749,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $1,948,995,000)''.
Page 130, line 10, insert after the dollar amount the
following: ``(reduced by $70,707,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $20,000,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $11,731,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $119,794,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $10,159,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $1,625,451,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $154,418,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $4,161,156,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $21,099,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $5,546,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $34,740,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $223,174,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $6,847,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $52,352,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $40,179,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $210,224,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $4,738,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $15,423,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $483,835,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $61,480,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $941,192,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $1,419,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $8,253,000)''.
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following: ``(reduced by $22,523,000)''.
Page 145, line 17, insert after the dollar amount the
following: ``(reduced by $30,609,000)''.
Page 145, line 24, insert after the dollar amount the
following: ``(reduced by $133,194,000)''.
Page 161, line 12, relating to the spending reduction
account, insert after the dollar amount the following:
``(increased by $33,000,124,000)''.
Ms. LEE (during the reading). Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent
that the amendment be considered as read.
The Acting CHAIR. Is there objection to the request of the
gentlewoman from California?
There was no objection.
Mr. FRELINGHUYSEN. Mr. Chairman, I reserve a point of order on the
gentlewoman's amendment.
The Acting CHAIR. A point of order is reserved.
The gentlewoman from California is recognized for 5 minutes.
Ms. LEE. Let me just first thank Chairman Rogers, our ranking member,
Mr. Dicks, and my colleagues on the Appropriations Committee for their
hard work in putting together this bill.
I rise today to offer the Lee-Jones amendment, joined by
Representatives Nadler; Woolsey; Olver; Stark; Jesse Jackson, Jr.;
Honda; Conyers; Grijalva; Paul; and Amash. And I want to thank each of
my colleagues for joining Representative Jones and me on this important
amendment.
This amendment would end the war in Afghanistan by ending the funding
for combat operations but would provide funds to bring our troops home
in a safe and orderly manner. And while I would have preferred to offer
the Lee amendment, which I have offered in the past--to fence off and
to limit funding to the safe, orderly withdrawal of all U.S. Armed
Forces in Afghanistan--I was unable to do so today given that we are
debating on an appropriations bill. So I want to emphasize again this
important point: that while this amendment cuts war funding, it cuts
combat operations funding, but it does leave enough funding to provide
for the safe and orderly return of all U.S. forces from Afghanistan.
I speak today as the daughter of a lieutenant colonel who fought in
several wars, one who knows the trauma and devastation of wars on
families. I want to be clear that our servicemen and -women have
performed with incredible courage and commitment in Afghanistan. They
are doing everything we asked them to do. But the truth is that they
have been put in an impossible position. They are fighting in a way
with no military solution and no end in sight. Only a political and
diplomatic solution and a regional stabilization strategy will end this
war.
In fact, this concern of ``war without end'' is why I opposed the
resolution authorizing military force on September 14, 2001. It began a
series of blank checks that we have been writing for nearly a decade
now.
There are few things that we know with certainty regarding the
situation in Afghanistan:
We know that corruption persists unabated, and in many cases has been
fueled by the U.S. occupation and influx of foreign cash. President
Karzai has proven himself time and time again unwilling--or, at the
very least, unable--to meaningfully root out corruption within his own
administration;
We know that the United States troop presence has increased from
4,000 troops in 2002 to almost 100,000 in 2011. At the same time,
military and civilian casualties have increased at record rates, and
violence is on the rise;
We also know that al Qaeda's presence in Afghanistan has been all but
eliminated, and Osama bin Laden is dead. It's not feasible or in our
national security interest to address this threat through a military-
first, boots-on-the-ground strategy in Afghanistan;
And we know, as military and foreign policy experts from across the
political spectrum have told us repeatedly, that the situation in
Afghanistan will not be resolved by a military solution.
We need to bring our troops home safely and swiftly, and that is why
I am offering this amendment.
This war is costing us too much. With over 1,600 troops killed and
tens of thousands more seriously wounded in Afghanistan, the human toll
continues to mount every day. And we have already spent over $400
billion fighting in Afghanistan. It is past time to admit that we can
no longer afford to send more blank checks for a war without end.
The United States has squandered more than $1.1 trillion on the wars
in Iraq and Afghanistan. Economists estimate that the total direct and
indirect costs of these two wars by their end may total as much as $6
trillion.
With no military solution, we need to redirect these funds to job
creation and supporting those efforts for the most vulnerable,
including those who have been unemployed for over 2 years and have no
more unemployment benefits. While we spend $2 billion a week--mind you,
$2 billion a week--on this decade-long war, critical programs like
Medicare are on the chopping block as we seek to get our Nation's
finances in order.
The American people are sick and tired of this war and the massive
unending spending that it requires.
Just last month, the United States Conference of Mayors passed a
resolution to end the wars and to use the savings to build bridges and
schools and infrastructure here at home where it is needed. The
resolution specifically calls on the President and the United States
Congress to end the wars as soon as strategically possible and bring
these war dollars home to meet vital human needs, promote job creation,
rebuild our infrastructure, aid municipal and State governments, and
develop a new economy based on renewable, sustainable energy and reduce
the Federal debt.
We need to bring our troops back and use the savings to address our
Nation's fiscal challenges. The American people recognize this. It's
time to say that enough is enough. It's time to begin with safe and
orderly withdrawal of United States troops from Afghanistan. This
amendment does just that by ending the funding of combat operations in
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Afghanistan while maintaining funds for a safe and orderly withdrawal.
This is not a cut-and-run amendment. This is a responsible amendment
to bring our troops home now. I urge my colleagues to vote ``yes'' on
this amendment, helping to bring our servicemen and -women home safely
and ending the war in Afghanistan.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. FRELINGHUYSEN. Mr. Chairman, I withdraw my reservation of the
point of order, and I rise in opposition to the amendment.
The Acting CHAIR. The reservation is withdrawn.
The gentleman from New Jersey is recognized for 5 minutes.
Mr. FRELINGHUYSEN. Mr. Chairman, the gentlewoman has an amendment to
reduce the overseas contingency operation--aka the war on terror--by
$33 billion. She intends for this amendment to support, as she says, an
orderly withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan. However, such a
reduction would, in fact, severely disrupt and suspend a redeployment
from Afghanistan. The magnitude of her funding reduction would also
threaten the ability to support troop pay and safety.
The committee has provided funds to begin the redeployment of troops
in Afghanistan. If the redeployment from Afghanistan were to be
accelerated, there would be significant increases in personnel,
equipment, and transportation costs in fiscal year 2012.
Mr. Chairman, I oppose the amendment and urge others to do likewise.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Ms. WOOLSEY. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentlewoman from California is recognized for 5
minutes.
Ms. WOOLSEY. Mr. Chairman, I rise in support of the amendment offered
by my dear friend Congresswoman Lee and the rest of the authors.
Congresswoman Lee is a courageous voice for peace in Afghanistan and
around the world, and what she says--this is the bottom line of this
amendment--is clear: We should not spend one more dime waging war in
Afghanistan. The only money we appropriate must be used to wind down
the war with the safe, orderly, complete, and long overdue military
redeployment out of Afghanistan.
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The White House announced about 2 weeks ago that we would have a
troop withdrawal from Afghanistan. I believe that announcement was
tragically inadequate. Actually, I was hoping to hear that at least
50,000 troops would be coming home by the end of 2011. Instead, the
President announced his intention to wait another year, the summer of
2012, before removing the 33,000 troops that were added with the surge.
Too slow, too cautious, too modest.
I don't know how much clearer the writing on the wall has to be, Mr.
Chairman. Afghanistan remains in terrible disarray, with a terribly
corrupt central government and a security force actually incapable of
enforcing security. Our military footprint isn't doing enough in
Afghanistan. It is actually causing more harm than good. Meanwhile, the
human cost here at home is nothing short of devastating. Casualties
have spiked. Americans are dying in Afghanistan at an unacceptable
rate, more than 200 troops so far this year and over 1,600 troops since
the war began nearly a decade ago.
And, Mr. Chairman, making it home alive doesn't mean making it home
whole. Thousands upon thousands of servicemembers will spend the rest
of their lives coping with the wounds and the scars they acquired in
this unnecessary war. Many have left limbs behind in Afghanistan.
Others will never regain their mental health or their peace of mind,
suffering the devastating effects of PTSD.
Why would we continue to throw another dollar at a war that has done
so much to hurt our people and Afghan civilians and done so little to
help Afghanistan in general? This week, as a matter of fact, all of
Washington is abuzz about the debt ceiling negotiations. Commentators
are asking us, where will we find consensus that preserves the full
faith and credit of the United States of America? Well, Mr. Chairman,
there is a consensus in the United States, a consensus among the
American people, and that is that the $10 billion a month that we're
spending in Afghanistan is roughly $10 billion too much. But war
spending is not on the table in these talks. Instead, Medicare cuts are
on the table, while my colleagues on the other side of the aisle are
clinging tight to loopholes and subsidies for oil companies, corporate
jets, and the horse racing industry. Their spending priorities are just
totally warped.
Mr. Chairman, it's time to bring all this in line with the priorities
of the American people. It's time to end this war. It's time to stop
investing money that we need right here at home, and it is time to
invest only in bringing our troops home safely.
With that, Mr. Chairman, I strongly urge all of my colleagues to
support the Lee amendment.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. NADLER. I move to strike the last word.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman from New York is recognized for 5
minutes.
Mr. NADLER. Mr. Chairman, I won't take 5 minutes.
I rise to speak in support of the Lee amendment, which I have the
honor of cosponsoring. My views on Afghanistan, I expressed a little
while ago, but I just want to make a couple of comments.
The gentleman from California (Mr. Lewis) said we have to be careful,
that we have to be wary of a vacuum should we pull out. He analogized
it to what happened with the Soviets when the Soviets lost and there
was a vacuum because we turned our backs on it. And he was right. We
should not have turned our backs on helping, on helping with schooling
and other things in Afghanistan at that time. But the fact of the
matter is the world's history is full of empires that threw away their
substance on silly military adventures. This is a silly military
adventure. It's a total waste, because it is a classic, where we are
fighting when we have forgotten why we are fighting.
We went into Afghanistan to get rid of the al Qaeda bases. That took
a week. For good measure we spent another week and got rid of the
Taliban government. And now what are we fighting for for the last 8
years? To put a government in our image? It's not going to happen. To
install and see that there is a government that can rule from Kabul?
There hasn't been a government in Kabul who has run the entire country
since Alexander the Great. That's not going to happen.
We can't settle their civil war, which has now gone on for 35 years,
nor will settling their civil war aid our security, which we can't do
anyway, and we don't have to. Our security is fighting the terrorists,
but the terrorists are all over the place. And maybe we have to, if
they develop a base in Pakistan, maybe we have to bomb it or send in
special forces. Ditto for Somalia, Yemen, or God knows where.
Every sovereign country as a condition of its sovereignty must make
sure that its territory is not used to attack someone else, and if
territory of some country is being used to attack us, or to plot mayhem
against us, we have the right and the duty, if necessary, to deal with
that. But that's not the question in Afghanistan. The CIA, as I said
before, tells us there are fewer than 100 people there. Why do we need
70,000 troops? Those troops could be better occupied back home in the
United States training, helping fight disasters. Our money could be
better occupied dealing with our serious fiscal problems, building up
our infrastructure, building up our schools, building up our social
services, and even building up our military for real threats.
There are real threats in the world. Pakistan is dangerous because
they have nuclear weapons. We have to pay attention to it. But I fail
to see any purpose whatsoever for having tens of thousands of troops,
tens of billions of dollars in Afghanistan where we vanquished the
enemy 10 years ago. We ought to declare victory, we should have pulled
out, and we should do so right now.
I thank the gentlelady for her amendment.
I yield back the balance of my time.
The Acting CHAIR. The question is on the amendment offered by the
gentlewoman from California (Ms. Lee).
The question was taken; and the Acting Chair announced that the noes
appeared to have it.
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Ms. LEE. Mr. Chairman, I demand a recorded vote.
The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to clause 6 of rule XVIII, further
proceedings on the amendment offered by the gentlewoman from California
will be postponed.
Amendment Offered by Mr. Garamendi
Mr. GARAMENDI. I have an amendment at the desk, Mr. Chairman.
The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will report the amendment.
The Clerk read as follows:
Page 125, line 6, after the dollar amount, insert
``(reduced by $2,695,031,000)''.
Page 125, line 12, after the dollar amount, insert
``(reduced by $348,845,000)''.
Page 125, line 18, after the dollar amount, insert
``(reduced by $264,718,000)''.
Page 125, line 24, after the dollar amount, insert
``(reduced by $521,937,000)''.
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``(reduced by $81,201,000)''.
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``(reduced by $16,362,000)''.
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``(reduced by $9,964,000)''.
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``(reduced by $10,511,000)''.
Page 127, line 5, after the dollar amount, insert
``(reduced by $247,421,000)''.
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``(reduced by $3,698,000)''.
Page 127, line 18, after the dollar amount, insert
``(reduced by $8,662,596,000)''.
Page 127, line 24, after the dollar amount, insert
``(reduced by $1,584,616,000)''.
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``(reduced by $909,681,000)''.
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``(reduced by $2,359,569,000)''.
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``(reduced by $1,527,457,000)''.
Page 130, line 10, after the dollar amount, insert
``(reduced by $55,414,000)''.
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``(reduced by $15,674,000)''.
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``(reduced by $9,193,000)''.
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``(reduced by $93,884,000)''.
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``(reduced by $7,962,000)''.
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``(reduced by $10,748,000)''.
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``(reduced by $17,697,000)''.
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``(reduced by $113,688,000)''.
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``(reduced by $3,488,000)''.
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``(reduced by $26,669,000)''.
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``(reduced by $20,468,000)''.
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``(reduced by $107,091,000)''.
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``(reduced by $2,414,000)''.
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``(reduced by $7,857,000)''.
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``(reduced by $246,473,000)''.
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``(reduced by $31,319,000)''.
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``(reduced by $737,626,000)''.
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``(reduced by $723,000)''.
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``(reduced by $4,204,000)''.
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``(reduced by $11,474,000)''.
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``(reduced by $15,593,000)''.
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``(reduced by $104,386,000)''.
Page 161, line 12, after the dollar amount, insert
``(increased by $20,887,651,000)''.
Mr. GARAMENDI (during the reading). Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous
consent to dispense with reading the rest of the amendment.
The Acting CHAIR. Is there objection to the request of the gentleman
from California?
There was no objection.
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The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman from California is recognized for 5
minutes.
Mr. GARAMENDI. I thank my colleagues for bringing that recitation to
an end, but I also urge my colleagues to pay careful attention to what
we're trying to accomplish here. I'll try to explain it without reading
each and every one of those lines.
The Afghan Study Group, Richard Haas and many others who are very
familiar with the Afghanistan war and the way in which it is being
conducted have suggested that by the end of 2012, America should have
no more than 25,000 troops in Afghanistan and then further, wind down
the war in 2013 to 10,000 troops focused on terrorists, focused on al
Qaeda.
As I spoke a few moments ago on this issue, this amendment is to
accomplish that goal, to wind down the war in a responsible way over
the next 18 months so that at the end of the 18 months--that would be
December 31, 2012--that there'd be no more than 25,000 troops in
Afghanistan.
Now, unfortunately, I can't add the rest of it, but I will at least
give the reason for this. And that is to pivot on the success of
getting bin Laden. We went to Afghanistan to get al Qaeda. We
succeeded. And now we are involved in a civil war, a great civil war, a
five-sided civil war, maybe a six- or seven-sided civil war; and we are
supporting a government in that war that is at best corrupt and quite
possibly even more inept. So what are we doing there besides spending
$120 billion a year?
Well, we are kind of fighting it out. We're losing a lot of
Americans, and even more Afghans are dying. We're not going to be able
to solve this with troops on the ground. This war needs to be
negotiated. As much effort as we are spending on the troops, we should
spend on negotiations. Unfortunately, little or no negotiations are
going on that are at least talked about publicly; and I would hope
they're going on privately, secretly, but I don't think that to be the
case.
So we need a negotiated settlement; we need to pivot on the success
of bin Laden. We need to focus like a laser on al Qaeda wherever they
happen to be in the world. And we know that they are in Pakistan,
Yemen, Somalia, other places in the world--including the United States.
So our focus must be on that, not on this civil war. We cannot solve it
with our troops in Afghanistan.
This amendment would cause us, as Members of Congress, to exert the
authority given to us by the Constitution, that is, the power of the
purse, and by denying funding for more than 25,000 troops at the end of
2012, we will accomplish the goal of rapidly, appropriately winding
down the war. Not my words, but the words of the Afghan Study Group and
Richard Haas--people who know these issues.
We must do this for our own good, for the good of this Nation. We're
sitting here in the midst of a great debate upon a default crisis, a
back-and-forth about how do we deal with the deficit. Well, one way we
can deal with the deficit is to end this war; $120 billion a year adds
up to a third of a trillion dollars in just 3 years. We're not
suggesting we can get that. We know we're going to have to maintain
some sort of a presence there.
But surely we don't need to spend $120 billion in Afghanistan when in
our own country we are denying our children an education for lack of
money. We are denying our elderly the health care that they need, for
example, terminating Medicare for lack of money. We are not feeding our
children; ``60 Minutes'' recently did a heart-wrenching story on
homeless children living in cars and hotels in America because their
parents have lost their jobs.
We have an unemployment rate that demands our attention, demands our
investment in America, rebuilding America's bridges, roads, rebuilding
our manufacturing sector, making it in America once again, rebuilding
the real strength of this Nation, its economy, and the middle class so
that they can have jobs that will allow them to stay in their homes,
provide for their children, live the good American life.
We must end this war. We must first wind it down. Were this more than
an appropriation bill, I would have gone to step two, which is 10,000
at the end of 2013 with a mission that is the original mission, that
is, going after the terrorists, not nation-building. We must, as the
President said, rebuild our Nation. And unlike the President, this
amendment offers us the opportunity to use our money to rebuild this
Nation.
By the way, for you deficit hawks, it's all borrowed money. You're
borrowing money for Afghanistan, or you're borrowing money to rebuild
this Nation.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. FRELINGHUYSEN. I rise in opposition to the amendment.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman from New Jersey is recognized for 5
minutes.
Mr. FRELINGHUYSEN. We oppose this amendment for the same reason we
opposed the gentlewoman's amendment from California on the last. It
would be highly disruptive to our troops and, I think, put them at
great risk for their personal safety. So we oppose the amendment.
I yield back the balance of my time.
The Acting CHAIR. The question is on the amendment offered by the
gentleman from California (Mr. Garamendi).
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The question was taken; and the Acting Chair announced that the noes
appeared to have it.
Mr. GARAMENDI. Mr. Chairman, I demand a recorded vote.
The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to clause 6 of rule XVIII, further
proceedings on the amendment offered by the gentleman from California
will be postponed.
The Clerk will read.
The Clerk read as follows:
Military Personnel, Navy
For an additional amount for ``Military Personnel, Navy'',
$919,034,000: Provided, That each amount in this paragraph is
designated as being for the global war on terrorism pursuant
to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th Congress).
Military Personnel, Marine Corps
For an additional amount for ``Military Personnel, Marine
Corps'', $675,360,000: Provided, That each amount in this
paragraph is designated as being for the global war on
terrorism pursuant to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th
Congress).
Military Personnel, Air Force
For an additional amount for ``Military Personnel, Air
Force'', $1,436,353,000: Provided, That each amount in this
paragraph is designated as being for the global war on
terrorism pursuant to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th
Congress).
Reserve Personnel, Army
For an additional amount for ``Reserve Personnel, Army'',
$207,162,000: Provided, That each amount in this paragraph is
designated as being for the global war on terrorism pursuant
to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th Congress).
Reserve Personnel, Navy
For an additional amount for ``Reserve Personnel, Navy'',
$44,530,000: Provided, That each amount in this paragraph is
designated as being for the global war on terrorism pursuant
to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th Congress).
Reserve Personnel, Marine Corps
For an additional amount for ``Reserve Personnel, Marine
Corps'', $25,421,000: Provided, That each amount in this
paragraph is designated as being for the global war on
terrorism pursuant to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th
Congress).
Reserve Personnel, Air Force
For an additional amount for ``Reserve Personnel, Air
Force'', $26,815,000: Provided, That each amount in this
paragraph is designated as being for the global war on
terrorism pursuant to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th
Congress).
National Guard Personnel, Army
For an additional amount for ``National Guard Personnel,
Army'', $646,879,000: Provided, That each amount in this
paragraph is designated as being for the global war on
terrorism pursuant to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th
Congress).
National Guard Personnel, Air Force
For an additional amount for ``National Guard Personnel,
Air Force'', $9,435,000: Provided, That each amount in this
paragraph is designated as being for the global war on
terrorism pursuant to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th
Congress).
OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE
Operation and Maintenance, Army
For an additional amount for ``Operation and Maintenance,
Army'', $39,175,755,000: Provided, That each amount in this
paragraph is designated as being for the global war on
terrorism pursuant to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th
Congress).
Amendment Offered by Mr. Welch
Mr. WELCH. Mr. Chairman, I have an amendment at the desk.
The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will report the amendment.
The Clerk read as follows:
Page 127, line 18, after the dollar amount, insert
``(reduced by $200,000,000)''.
Page 149, line 16, after the dollar amount, insert
``(reduced by $200,000,000)''.
Page 161, line 12, after the dollar amount, insert
``(increased by $200,000,000)''.
Mr. WELCH (during the reading). I ask unanimous consent that the
amendment be considered as read.
The Acting CHAIR. Is there objection to the request of the gentleman
from Vermont?
There was no objection.
Mr. YOUNG of Florida. I reserve a point of order on the gentleman's
amendment.
The Acting CHAIR. A point of order is reserved.
The gentleman from Vermont is recognized for 5 minutes.
Mr. WELCH. Mr. Chair, one of the central questions that Congress must
address is whether to continue the policy and nation-building in
Afghanistan. As previous speakers have indicated, it's expensive. It's
also very questionable as to whether it's anything but a failure.
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The cornerstone of the nation building program is the Commander's
Emergency Response Program. That gives the commanders flexibility, at
their own discretion, to authorize significant infrastructure projects
in Afghanistan, the goal being to win hearts and minds of the Afghan
citizens. When you lay it out by its intentions, it's a very reasonable
tool to provide to our commanders. The problem is the evidence is in,
and it has been a failure.
The $400 million Commander's Emergency Response Program, CERP, is a
central component of what I believe is a failed nation building
strategy. And the fundamental question here is this: Does the Defense
appropriations bill double down on the nation building approach which
has been drawn into such question?
Now, of the CERP development dollars, according to the Special
Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction, SIGAR, about half of
the CERP projects reviewed were unsustainable and fell into disrepair
immediately following their transfer into Afghan hands. That failure of
sustainment is real, and it is not subject to something that we can
control here.
So the question that we have to ask on behalf of our military
strategy is, is the money being used in a way that's effective? From
the perspective of the Afghans, is it being used on projects that are
sustainable? And the evidence, on the basis of our SIGAR report, is the
answer is ``no.'' And it's not surprising. You know, we've got to get a
bit real about this, whatever your position is on Afghanistan. If you
have a government that has no infrastructure of civil service, that
doesn't even have the capacity to do the sustainment, they don't have a
civil service that can go out and maintain and repair the roads and
other projects, is it realistic to expect that they will?
When you have a government that is corrupt, for whatever reason, but
where the money that gets injected by the U.S. taxpayer into these
projects, with the best of intentions, gets siphoned off into paying
off people who have positions of authority, is that a wise use of our
taxpayer dollar? Is it going to help our military ultimately be
successful? So the question that we have a responsibility to answer is
whether this tool of nation building makes sense.
One of the other questions that I think is fair to ask: Many of us
have been to Afghanistan, and we've met with some of our USAID people,
our State Department people who are out there, our military people of
course, trying to implement these projects, Mr. Speaker. The amount of
security that is required in order to allow people to do the simplest
of projects in the middle of a shooting war is an enormous expense. And
the question that comes to mind for me, and I think many Americans, is
this: Does it make sense to do these infrastructure projects, these
hearts and minds projects in the middle of a shooting war, or are those
things that have to be done before or after? That's really the
question.
So the intention of this program makes sense. The flexibility for our
commanders they see as desirable. It is a tool that they can use. But
we have had 10 years now of history. We have had a fully blown report
by SIGAR that has said it just doesn't work. It just doesn't work.
So is it time for this Congress to call the question about the wisdom
and the efficacy of this nation building tool, the CERP programs that
fall into disrepair immediately upon their completion?
Our amendment calls the question, Mr. Speaker. And it would cut in
half, which is about the amount that's documented to be wasted, the
amount that is spent by U.S. taxpayers on these nation building
activities in Afghanistan.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Point of Order
Mr. YOUNG of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I make a point of order against
the gentleman's amendment.
The amendment proposes to amend portions of the bill not yet read.
The amendment may not be considered en bloc under section 3(j) of House
Resolution 5, 112th Congress, because the amendment does not merely
propose to transfer appropriations among objects in the bill, but also
proposes language other than the amounts.
I ask for a ruling from the Chair.
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The Acting CHAIR. Does any other Member wish to be heard on this
point of order? The Chair will rule.
To be considered en bloc pursuant to section 3(j)(1) of House
Resolution 5, an amendment must propose only to transfer appropriations
from an object or objects in the bill to a spending reduction account.
Because the amendment offered by the gentleman from Vermont proposes
other changes to the bill, namely changing the level of a limitation,
it may not avail itself of section 3(j)(1) of House Resolution 5 to
address the spending reduction account. The amendment is not in order.
Amendment Offered by Mr. Nadler
Mr. NADLER. Mr. Chairman, I have an amendment at the desk.
The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will report the amendment.
The Clerk read as follows:
Page 127, line 18, after the dollar amount, insert
``(reduced by $15,000,000) (increased by $15,000,000)''.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman from New York is recognized for 5
minutes.
Mr. NADLER. Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment tonight that will save
both blood and an immense amount of money. The amendment I am
introducing along with Congressman Blumenauer designates already
authorized funds in the amount of $15 million to be used to insulate
the shelters at forward operating bases in Afghanistan. Properly
insulating military shelters can significantly reduce energy
consumption, which in turn can decrease the number of vulnerable fuel
convoys needed to support our troops.
These fuel convoys cost us dearly. They are an absolutely vital
supply link to our troops in the field, but they are exposed to
constant and devastating attack. Despite the Pentagon spending $24
billion a year to protect fuel convoys in Afghanistan, more than 3,000
troops and civilian contractors have been killed or wounded while
riding on convoy. What's more, fully two-thirds of the fuel used in
Afghanistan goes to provide electricity for air-conditioning and heat
at military installations. If we can reduce the energy required to heat
and cool shelters in the field, then we can reduce the number of
vulnerable fuel trucks needed to support the operations. Simply put,
insulating the structures in the field will save lives of people who
will not be on convoys to be attacked.
We will also save money. Properly insulated shelters use up to 92
percent less energy for their heating and cooling. With more than
200,000 gallons of diesel fuel used every day to power our forward
operating bases in Afghanistan, insulating our field shelters has the
potential to significantly reduce fuel consumption. A similar
insulation effort in Iraq has led to almost $1 billion a year in
savings and has taken more than 11,000 fuel trucks off the road. This
in turn has helped to prevent an estimated 458 casualties in Iraq.
A little arithmetic will show you that this $15 million invested in
insulating the shelters in the forward bases in Afghanistan should save
several billion dollars in costs, as well as thousands of lives.
I want to thank Congressmen Blumenauer, Hinchey, and Welch for their
support of this amendment. Together, the amendment provides a
commonsense way to reduce fuel consumption across the war zone. This
would save about two-thirds of the 200,000 gallons used a day. With the
total cost of fuel sometimes exceeding $400 a gallon in Afghanistan,
including the transport costs, and thousands of casualties suffered by
fuel convoys, a small investment of $15 million in energy efficient
insulation can go a long way in saving thousands of lives and upwards
of billions of dollars in resources.
I urge passage of this amendment.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. YOUNG of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the
amendment.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman is recognized for 5 minutes.
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Mr. YOUNG of Florida. Mr. Chairman, this amendment is very, very
similar to one that the House rejected earlier today.
The project that would be funded by this amendment, by the shifting
of this money, is not an authorized program to begin with. But even if
it were, the Army's O&M account in the OCO portion of the bill is
funded at over $39.1 billion.
And should this project remain in the final authorization bill and
the Department concurs that it is a high enough priority, then there
simply are ample funds to cover it with the $39.1 billion.
So I see no reason for this amendment, and I oppose the amendment.
I yield back the balance of my time.
The Acting CHAIR (Mr. Gardner). The question is on the amendment
offered by the gentleman from New York (Mr. Nadler).
The question was taken; and the Acting Chair announced that the noes
appeared to have it.
Mr. NADLER. Mr. Chairman, I demand a recorded vote.
The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to clause 6 of rule XVIII, further
proceedings on the amendment offered by the gentleman from New York
will be postponed.
The Clerk will read.
The Clerk read as follows:
Operation and Maintenance, Navy
For an additional amount for ``Operation and Maintenance,
Navy'', $6,749,489,000: Provided, That each amount in this
paragraph is designated as being for the global war on
terrorism pursuant to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th
Congress).
Operation and Maintenance, Marine Corps
For an additional amount for ``Operation and Maintenance,
Marine Corps'', $3,571,210,000: Provided, That each amount in
this paragraph is designated as being for the global war on
terrorism pursuant to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th
Congress).
Operation and Maintenance, Air Force
For an additional amount for ``Operation and Maintenance,
Air Force'', $10,739,587,000: Provided, That each amount in
this paragraph is designated as being for the global war on
terrorism pursuant to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th
Congress).
Operation and Maintenance, Defense-Wide
For an additional amount for ``Operation and Maintenance,
Defense-Wide'', $9,312,876,000: Provided, That each amount in
this paragraph is designated as being for the global war on
terrorism pursuant to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th
Congress): Provided further, That of the funds provided under
this heading:
(1) Not to exceed $12,500,000 for the Combatant Commander
Initiative Fund, to be used in support of Operation New Dawn
and Operation Enduring Freedom.
(2) Not to exceed $1,750,000,000, to remain available until
expended, for payments to reimburse key cooperating nations
for logistical, military, and other support, including access
provided to United States military operations in support of
Operation New Dawn and Operation Enduring Freedom,
notwithstanding any other provision of law: Provided, That
such reimbursement payments may be made in such amounts as
the Secretary of Defense, with the concurrence of the
Secretary of State, and in consultation with the Director of
the Office of Management and Budget, may determine, in his
discretion, based on documentation determined by the
Secretary of Defense to adequately account for the support
provided, and such determination is final and conclusive upon
the accounting officers of the United States, and 15 days
following notification to the appropriate congressional
committees: Provided further, That the requirement to
provide notification shall not apply with respect to a
reimbursement for access based on an international agreement:
Provided further, That these funds may be used for the
purpose of providing specialized training and procuring
supplies and specialized equipment and providing such
supplies and loaning such equipment on a non-reimbursable
basis to coalition forces supporting United States military
operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, and 15 days following
notification to the appropriate congressional committees:
Provided further, That the Secretary of Defense shall provide
quarterly reports to the congressional defense committees on
the use of funds provided in this paragraph.
Amendment Offered by Mr. Poe of Texas
Mr. POE of Texas. Mr. Chairman, I have an amendment at the desk.
The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will report the amendment.
The Clerk read as follows:
Page 128, line 17, after the dollar amount, insert
``(reduced by $1,000,000,000)''.
Page 129, line 1, after the dollar amount, insert
``(reduced by $1,000,000,000)''.
Page 161, line 12, after the dollar amount, insert
``(increased by $1,000,000,000)''.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman is recognized for 5 minutes.
Mr. POE of Texas. Mr. Chairman, this amendment deals with the money
that we give Pakistan. It specifically deals with the reimbursement
account that the United States pays for the war on terror to reimburse
Pakistan for the spending that they do and the money that they request
back from the United States, specifically takes $1 billion out of the
reimbursement account and applies it to the reimbursement or, excuse
me, the Spending Reduction Act.
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Since May 2, when Osama bin Laden was taken out and we learned more
about the role that Pakistan is playing--or, shall I say, not playing--
in the war on terror, they have become more and more an unfaithful
ally. President Bush said, when the war on terror began, to the
countries throughout the world, either you are with us or you are with
the terrorists.
Pakistan has yet to prove which side they are really on, so much so
that when Osama bin Laden was taken out by the American military, we
did not trust Pakistan enough to even tell them that we were going to
come into their country. Our distrust against that country has been
proven over and over again since that date.
On May 16, the Wall Street Journal reported that over 40 percent of
the money that Pakistan requests for reimbursement for military aid is
denied by the Federal Government because those claims are unfounded by
the Federal Government. In one case last year, the United States paid
millions of dollars to refurbish four helicopters to help Pakistan's
Army transport troops into battle against the Taliban, but it turned
out that Pakistan diverted three of those aircraft to peacekeeping
duties in Sudan operations for which Pakistan receives compensation
from the United Nations.
Other claims include a $26 million charge for barbed wire and pickets
and $70 million for radar maintenance, although there is no enemy air
threat related to the war on terror.
And on May 22, 15 to 20 militants stormed three hangars at the naval
aviation base in Karachi. It took the Pakistan military over 15 hours
to end that siege.
Two U.S. P-3Cs were destroyed. The P-3C is an anti-submarine and
marine surveillance aircraft. Some reports now indicate it was an
inside job, as the terrorists had military uniforms and knew exactly
where the planes were located.
Then on June 14, reports confirmed that Pakistan now has arrested CIA
informants that helped us locate Osama bin Laden, where he had been
living under the eyes of the Pakistan military for years.
As reported in The New York Times on June 14, ISI arrested 30
Pakistani informants who helped the United States capture bin Laden.
One was a Pakistani Army major who officials said copied the license
plates of cars visiting bin Laden's compound at Abbottabad.
Then further, in June, when CIA Director Leon Panetta went to
Pakistan to inform them that there was a factory that was making bombs
or IEDs that could be used against Americans, by the time the Pakistani
troops showed up, the militants had disappeared.
Not to be outdone, we told them again about a second place where IEDs
were being made, more bomb-making facilities only days later, and once
again the terrorists picked up and disappeared. Sounds like they had
inside information.
And lastly, on June 29, Pakistan asked the United States to shut down
a drone base that it had in Islamabad and ended U.S. operations at the
Shamsi Air Base. Although the United States denies that occurred,
Pakistan's defense minister said that it has ended those operations.
And, of course, drones carry out strikes against the Taliban and al
Qaeda militants on Pakistan's border with Afghanistan.
And lastly, Transparency International has rated 178 countries on
corruption, and Pakistan, our so-called ally, is rated the 143rd most
corrupt, beating out, of course, Bangladesh and Nigeria, who have less
corruption in their governments.
So we are dealing with a corrupt government. We don't know where our
money is going. It may end up in the hands of people who hate us. It's
being wasted. The Pakistan military, the Pakistan Government is trying
to play at least two sides: our side, their side. They may be on a
third side, who knows. But a billion dollars that we send them for so-
called reimbursement of the war on terror, we can stop that. They are
an unfaithful ally.
Only 17 percent of the Pakistani citizens say they even like the
United States. That puts 83 percent that do not like the United States.
We don't need to pay the Pakistan people to hate us. They will do it on
their own.
So we no longer need to fund them. We need to take a billion dollars
out of this account and put it into the deficit reduction spending
account.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. DICKS. I rise in opposition to the gentleman's amendment.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman from Washington is recognized for 5
minutes.
Mr. DICKS. The bill includes approximately $2.4 billion to support
the Pakistani military. Of this amount, 1.1 billion is for the Pakistan
Counterinsurgency Fund and approximately 1.3 billion is provided
through Coalition Support Funds.
The Pakistani Counterinsurgency Fund provides for the training and
equipping of Pakistani forces specifically to aid U.S. counterterrorism
objectives. Coalition Support Funds are used to reimburse the Pakistani
military for operations which generally support U.S. counterterrorism
objectives.
In the wake of Osama bin Laden's killing by U.S. Special Forces,
serious questions have arisen about Pakistan's reliability as a
strategic partner. And I must say that I agree with much of what the
gentleman from Texas has just said.
The relationship with Pakistan has always been difficult, but
maintaining the relationship is essential. This relationship helped the
U.S. make progress against terrorism, and the Pakistanis have allocated
a significant part of their forces within their own borders to this
mission.
A complete withdrawal of U.S. assistance would likely polarize
Pakistan and exacerbate significant pro- and anti-American rifts with
their military and their government generally. Aggravating this divide
would be counterproductive to U.S. objectives in the region, and we
must remember that they are also a nuclear power.
In addition to the counterterrorism activity, the fact of Pakistan's
nuclear weapons capabilities provides ample reason for the U.S. to
continue to try and engage Pakistan.
I urge my colleagues to reject the amendment.
I yield back the balance of my time.
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Mr. YOUNG of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman is recognized for 5 minutes.
Mr. YOUNG of Florida. The ranking member, Mr. Dicks, has eloquently
pointed out why we are opposing this amendment. But like Mr. Dicks and
like Mr. Poe, the author of the amendment, I couldn't agree more. If
this language included the word Pakistan, I would probably have to have
a different attitude on this amendment because I share those concerns
and I share them strongly. However, I understand the importance of our
coalition and the coalition support fund that we have agreed to and the
importance of maintaining that agreement.
But I would say that someone at a higher level who deals
diplomatically with other countries, including Pakistan, has dropped
the ball somewhere. I agree with Mr. Poe, but I just don't think that
we can be in a position where we can renege on our agreements and
arrangements with our coalition partners, because they are very
important to us and to the missions that we face.
So as reluctant as I might be because I share Mr. Poe's thoughts, I
also will oppose this amendment.
I yield back the balance of my time.
The Acting CHAIR. The question is on the amendment offered by the
gentleman from Texas (Mr. Poe).
The question was taken; and the Acting Chair announced that the noes
appeared to have it.
Mr. POE of Texas. Mr. Chairman, I demand a recorded vote.
The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to clause 6 of rule XVIII, further
proceedings on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Texas will
be postponed.
The Clerk will read.
The Clerk read as follows:
Operation and Maintenance, Army Reserve
For an additional amount for ``Operation and Maintenance,
Army Reserve'', $217,500,000: Provided, That each amount in
this paragraph is designated as being for the global war on
terrorism pursuant to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th
Congress).
Operation and Maintenance, Navy Reserve
For an additional amount for ``Operation and Maintenance,
Navy Reserve'', $74,148,000:
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Provided, That each amount in this paragraph is designated as
being for the global war on terrorism pursuant to section 301
of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th Congress).
Operation and Maintenance, Marine Corps Reserve
For an additional amount for ``Operation and Maintenance,
Marine Corps Reserve'', $36,084,000: Provided, That each
amount in this paragraph is designated as being for the
global war on terrorism pursuant to section 301 of H. Con.
Res. 34 (112th Congress).
Operation and Maintenance, Air Force Reserve
For an additional amount for ``Operation and Maintenance,
Air Force Reserve'', $142,050,000: Provided, That each amount
in this paragraph is designated as being for the global war
on terrorism pursuant to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34
(112th Congress).
Operation and Maintenance, Army National Guard
For an additional amount for ``Operation and Maintenance,
Army National Guard'', $387,544,000: Provided, That each
amount in this paragraph is designated as being for the
global war on terrorism pursuant to section 301 of H. Con.
Res. 34 (112th Congress).
Operation and Maintenance, Air National Guard
For an additional amount for ``Operation and Maintenance,
Air National Guard'', $34,050,000: Provided, That each amount
in this paragraph is designated as being for the global war
on terrorism pursuant to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34
(112th Congress).
Overseas Contingency Operations Transfer Fund
(including transfer of funds)
In addition to amounts provided elsewhere in this Act,
there is appropriated $5,000,000,000 for the ``Overseas
Contingency Operations Transfer Fund'' for expenses directly
relating to overseas contingency operations by United States
military forces, to be available until expended: Provided,
That each amount in this paragraph is designated as being for
the global war on terrorism pursuant to section 301 of H.
Con. Res. 34 (112th Congress): Provided further, That of the
funds made available in this section, the Secretary of
Defense may transfer these funds only to military personnel
accounts, operation and maintenance accounts, procurement
accounts, and working capital fund accounts: Provided
further, That the funds transferred shall be merged with and
shall be available for the same purposes and for the same
time period, as the appropriation to which transferred:
Provided further, that the Secretary shall notify the
congressional defense committees 15 days prior to such
transfer: Provided further, That the transfer authority
provided under this heading is in addition to any other
transfer authority available to the Department of Defense:
Provided further, That upon a determination that all or part
of the funds transferred from this appropriation are not
necessary for the purposes provided herein, such amounts may
be transferred back to this appropriation and shall be
available for the same purposes and for the same time period
as originally appropriated.
Amendment Offered by Ms. Lee
Ms. LEE. Mr. Chairman, I have an amendment at the desk.
The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will report the amendment.
The Clerk read as follows:
Page 131, line 25, insert after the dollar amount the
following: ``(reduced by $5,000,000,000)''.
Page 161, line 12, insert after the dollar amount the
following: ``(increased by $5,000,000,000)''.
Ms. LEE (during the reading). Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent
that the amendment be considered as read.
The Acting CHAIR. Is there objection to the request of the
gentlewoman from California?
There was no objection.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentlewoman from California is recognized for 5
minutes.
Ms. LEE. I want to once again thank Mr. Rogers and Ranking Member
Dicks and my colleagues on the Appropriations Committee for their hard
work on this bill. Let me also thank my colleagues who are joining
Representative Jones and me on this bipartisan amendment:
Representatives Woolsey, Olver, Honda, Grijalva and Paul.
Mr. Chair, I rise to offer the Lee-Jones amendment to redirect the $5
billion of the Overseas Contingency Operations Transfer Fund into a
deficit reduction account. This amendment does nothing to undermine the
efforts that our servicemen and -women have performed with incredible
courage and with extreme commitment in Afghanistan, Iraq and around the
world. They have done everything asked of them. And as the daughter of
a military veteran, I take any matters that affect our troops very,
very seriously.
But supporting our troops does not mean giving a blank check to the
Pentagon. I have consistently said that we cannot afford to give any
more blank checks to the Defense Department.
This amendment is about eliminating a giant $5 billion check with a
blank memo to fight the global war on terror anywhere, at any time,
without any accountability. The Department of Defense just has to
notify Congress that these funds are being transferred.
This $5 billion giveaway, which is what it is, it's like a slush
fund, it's like a war slush fund, another giveaway to the Pentagon.
It's a $5 billion check to use as it pleases with little or no
congressional oversight. There's no accountability in how these funds
are spent. While we understand that the Pentagon needs flexibility to
address terrorist threats to this Nation and around the world, we need
not create a separate slush fund, mind you, to do it. The flexibility
has been given elsewhere in this bill, including $119 billion in
flexibility in this appropriations bill, a tremendous amount, at a time
when we are cutting aid to American families who need assistance with
buying food or receiving health care and also during a time when there
are many calling for cuts in Medicare.
We already have a process in place for the Pentagon to get additional
funds, as needed, outside of this appropriations bill; and the Congress
has consistently responded well to the needs of the military. But
Congress does not need to create a $5 billion war slush fund. The
Pentagon can incorporate its work to fight terrorism globally into its
budget while taking steps to rein in waste, fraud, and abuse in an
already bloated budget.
Sixty cents of every dollar of discretionary funds is already handed
over to the Pentagon. There's no doubt that this war slush fund would
give rise to opportunities for waste, fraud and abuse at the Pentagon,
such as the more than $300 billion in major weapons system cost
overruns identified by GAO.
It's time to address the culture of unlimited spending and no
accountability at the Pentagon. Being strong on defense does not mean
we have to give a free pass for irresponsible spending.
During such austere times, does the Pentagon really need another
slush fund? Why can't the Pentagon budget for its wars, budget for
preventing terrorist attacks? It's time to hold the Defense Department
accountable for its bloated budget and rein in waste, fraud and abuse
at the Pentagon by ending this war slush fund before it ever gets
started.
I think the American people would be shocked to know what's taking
place in this budget, especially this $5 billion in war funding that's
just put aside for the Pentagon to use as it pleases.
And so I hope my colleagues will vote ``yes'' to end this slush fund,
and let's begin to start reining in these blank checks for the
Pentagon. We're asking people who are vulnerable, we're asking our
senior citizens, we're asking low-income individuals, we're asking
everyone in this country to pay for this deficit and this debt. And we
know how we got there.
But we need to really start beginning to look at deficit reduction in
a real way, and in a way that is balanced, as the President said. And I
don't think allowing a $5 billion slush fund really moves us in the
correct direction. It really is, I think, a sad day to think that we
would allow for the Pentagon to have a $5 billion slush fund when we
cut funding for women and children and people who are hungry, when we
won't extend unemployment for people who have exhausted their 99 weeks
of unemployment compensation.
I can remember asking the Speaker to allow us to vote for
unemployment compensation that would provide for 14 additional weeks of
unemployment, but we were told there's no money and that was somewhere
between 16, you know, to 20 billion that should have been designated as
an emergency. Now we're dealing with a $5 billion slush fund. So I ask
for an ``aye'' vote to use this money for deficit reduction.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. YOUNG of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to this
amendment.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman is recognized for 5 minutes.
Mr. YOUNG of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I wouldn't call this a slush
fund. This is not an additional fund that was added by the subcommittee
at the request of the Pentagon or the Department of Defense.
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When the subcommittee analyzed the request at our hearings and in the
subsequent material provided us to justify the budget of the Defense
Department for the overseas contingency operations, we had a strong
disagreement. We did not think that their figures were well thought
out. So rather than appropriate that $5 billion that they requested, we
moved it to what we call this transfer fund. It is not any additional
money; it is just taken out of one account and put into another
account. This transfer fund is to give the Defense Department some
flexibility when they do get their facts and figures together on what
the actual costs are.
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Now, the $5 billion, again, is not a slush fund. They can't spend
this money without reporting back to Congress. Any money spent from
this transfer fund must be reported to Congress, and Congress has 15
days in which to respond to that request.
This was done to try to make sure that we had what they needed, that
the Defense Department had what they needed for the overseas
contingency operations, but that they had to justify exactly how they
were going to use the money. And to the contrary, rather than being the
potential slush fund, this is definitely not a slush fund, and so I
oppose the amendment.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. COFFMAN of Colorado. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last
word.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman is recognized for 5 minutes.
Mr. COFFMAN of Colorado. Mr. Chairman, war is not predictable. We
have men and women today engaged in combat. And I am a combat veteran
with the United States Marine Corps. I served in the first gulf war,
and I served in the Iraq war. I wish that war was predictable. I wish
we knew what the enemy was going to do and when they were going to do
it, but we don't know that. This is a dedicated fund to the global war
on terror. It provides flexibility that is necessary for our commanders
in the field at this time.
I rise in opposition to this amendment and would hope that it would
be voted down.
I yield back the balance of my time.
The Acting CHAIR. The question is on the amendment offered by the
gentlewoman from California (Ms. Lee).
The question was taken; and the Acting Chair announced that the noes
appeared to have it.
Ms. LEE. Mr. Chairman, I demand a recorded vote.
The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to clause 6 of rule XVIII, further
proceedings on the amendment offered by the gentlewoman from California
will be postponed.
The Clerk will read.
The Clerk read as follows:
Afghanistan Infrastructure Fund
(including transfer of funds)
There is hereby established in the Treasury of the United
States the ``Afghanistan Infrastructure Fund''. For the
``Afghanistan Infrastructure Fund'', $475,000,000, to remain
available until September 30, 2013: Provided, That such sums
shall be available for infrastructure projects in
Afghanistan, notwithstanding any other provision of law,
which shall be undertaken by the Secretary of State, unless
the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense jointly
decide that a specific project will be undertaken by the
Department of Defense: Provided further, That the
infrastructure referred to in the preceding proviso is in
support of the counterinsurgency strategy, requiring funding
for facility and infrastructure projects, including, but not
limited to, water, power, and transportation projects and
related maintenance and sustainment costs: Provided further,
That the authority to undertake such infrastructure projects
is in addition to any other authority to provide assistance
to foreign nations: Provided further, That any projects
funded by this appropriation shall be jointly formulated and
concurred in by the Secretary of State and Secretary of
Defense: Provided further, That funds may be transferred to
the Department of State for purposes of undertaking projects,
which funds shall be considered to be economic assistance
under the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 for purposes of
making available the administrative authorities contained in
that Act: Provided further, That the transfer authority in
the preceding proviso is in addition to any other authority
available to the Department of Defense to transfer funds:
Provided further, That any unexpended funds transferred to
the Secretary of State under this authority shall be returned
to the Afghanistan Infrastructure Fund if the Secretary of
State, in coordination with the Secretary of Defense,
determines that the project cannot be implemented for any
reason, or that the project no longer supports the
counterinsurgency strategy in Afghanistan: Provided further,
That any funds returned to the Secretary of Defense under the
previous proviso shall be available for use under this
appropriation and shall be treated in the same manner as
funds not transferred to the Secretary of State: Provided
further, That contributions of funds for the purposes
provided herein to the Secretary of State in accordance with
section 635(d) of the Foreign Assistance Act from any person,
foreign government, or international organization may be
credited to this Fund, to remain available until expended,
and used for such purposes: Provided further, That the
Secretary of Defense shall, not fewer than 15 days prior to
making transfers to or from, or obligations from the Fund,
notify the appropriate committees of Congress in writing of
the details of any such transfer: Provided further, That for
the purpose of the section the ``appropriate committees of
Congress'' are the Committees on Armed Services, Foreign
Relations and Appropriations of the Senate and the Committees
on Armed Services, Foreign Affairs and Appropriations of the
House of Representatives: Provided further, That each amount
in this paragraph is designated as being for the global war
on terrorism pursuant to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34
(112th Congress).
Amendment No. 41 Offered by Mr. Cohen
Mr. COHEN. Mr. Chairman, I have an amendment at the desk.
The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will designate the amendment.
The text of the amendment is as follows:
Page 133, line 6, after the dollar amount, insert
``(reduced by $200,000,000)''.
Page 161, line 12, after the dollar amount, insert
``(increased by $200,000,000)''.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman from Tennessee is recognized for 5
minutes.
Mr. COHEN. Mr. Chairman, the Defense appropriations bill is one of
our primary funding bills to help protect our country against threats.
However, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Mike
Mullen, correctly said that our national debt is our biggest national
security threat.
With that said, finding dollars that can be diverted from lower
priorities to apply to deficit reduction will indeed make America
safer. This amendment will reduce funding for the Afghanistan
Infrastructure Fund by $200 million and return those funds to help
reduce the deficit. That is $200 million to help reduce the deficit.
The Afghanistan Infrastructure Fund was established to provide funds
for infrastructure projects, and some reports also indicate funds could
be used for other purposes; but, predominantly, they are for
infrastructure purposes. My amendment does not completely eliminate
funding. It keeps over $200 million in the infrastructure fund, but it
reduces it so we can take a serious look at how we can achieve savings
to reduce the deficit in funds spent overseas that are not being used
properly and effectively.
With the death of Osama bin Laden, there is not a need for a large
U.S. presence in Afghanistan. In fact, the killing of Osama bin Laden
was the biggest deficit reduction action this country has known if we
take advantage of that action and act on it to make it into a deficit
reduction action. We need to rethink our goals and strategy in
Afghanistan.
According to the World Bank, 97 percent of Afghanistan's gross
domestic product is derived from military funding and foreign
assistance--97 percent. If we build a vast infrastructure in
Afghanistan, they will not be able to sustain it after we leave. The
American people should not have to fund that infrastructure while
sitting in traffic in our own Nation, in gridlock, seeing schools in
disrepair, hospitals that can't provide services, and watching our own
infrastructure crumble--infrastructure that can create and does create
jobs carrying goods to market and providing jobs in America.
If House rules permitted, I would direct some of these funds toward
building our own infrastructure. That's what we need to do. But that's
not the case. The Afghan Government cannot spend all that we are giving
to it, and our funding is only fueling corruption and profiteering.
Mr. Poe mentioned Pakistan being third from the bottom ahead of
Nigeria and another nation. Afghanistan is right there with them. They
are fighting for the third to last place. Afghanistan is historically a
corrupt nation, and what fosters corruption is money and the moneys
that we give them; and 97 percent comes from us. It is going into the
pockets of people who aren't
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using it to build that infrastructure to help their own people. We are
fostering corruption. Afghans could build their own infrastructure for
far less than we are investing.
We need to pull back some of this funding to focus on our domestic
priorities, but we need to be concerned about our deficit. Let's keep
America safe and strong on all fronts.
I urge my Republican colleagues to join with me in a bipartisan
effort, stretching from Florida to Tennessee, the width of the
Southeastern Conference, and Conference U.S.A., I may say as well for
central Florida. I urge all of my colleagues to support this amendment.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. YOUNG of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the
amendment.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman is recognized for 5 minutes.
Mr. YOUNG of Florida. Mr. Chairman, the AIF, Infrastructure Fund for
Afghanistan was created by this Congress in the FY 2011 House-passed
authorization bill. It was again fully authorized in the FY 2012 House-
passed authorization bill. We support the objectives of Operation
Enduring Freedom, including the Afghan Security Forces Fund. This is a
counterinsurgency tool that General Petraeus placed the highest
priority on when he recommended that we create the AIF in place of the
CERP, the Commanders Emergency Response Program. So we did that. We
took money from the CERP, put the money into the AIF as part of General
Petraeus's counterinsurgency program.
So we think this is not a good amendment, and we are opposed to the
amendment.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. CONAWAY. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the requisite number of
words.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman from Texas is recognized for 5
minutes.
Mr. CONAWAY. Mr. Chairman, I rise to speak against my colleague from
Tennessee's amendment.
General Petraeus testified before the House Armed Services Committee
and stated that the current counterinsurgency strategy employed by U.S.
forces and NATO in Afghanistan is seeing success.
I was there in mid-April; and having been there since 2005 through
that time frame, the narrative there today is better than it has been
since I started going over there in 2005. What we are doing there is
working. The Afghan Infrastructure Fund is key to General Petraeus'
counterinsurgency campaign as improvements to Afghanistan's
infrastructure is necessary to obtain support from the local populace.
General Petraeus' successful counterinsurgency strategy is dependent on
the local populace and the intelligence they provide.
Visible development projects increases the Afghan Government's
legitimacy in relation to the Taliban, especially since these projects
are conducted in areas vulnerable to Taliban influence. Furthermore,
economic development increases security in Afghanistan by providing
jobs for former insurgents and building markets for alternative crops
to opium, thus reducing corruption.
Mr. Chairman, I oppose this amendment. The House Armed Services
Committee has fully authorized this program. The House Appropriations
Committee has gone through this bill with a fine-tooth comb. They
believe that these funds will be properly used and properly supervised
in the building of Afghan infrastructure as we continue to put in place
the system we need so that when we leave, and we will leave, the Afghan
people can sustain what we are doing.
One of the messages I got when I was there in April, unlike some of
the previous efforts, we will build things to Afghan standards. That is
not meant to be a pejorative; it is meant to face reality. When you
build a road to U.S. standards, they cannot maintain that road to U.S.
standards. But when you build a road to Afghan standards, they can in
fact maintain that infrastructure. That is the new paradigm that they
are working off of. Good enough for Afghanistan is not a pejorative; it
is simply facing a reality that this country is different from the
United States, and infrastructure projects there will be built to those
Afghan standards.
I strongly oppose the gentleman's amendment.
I yield back the balance of my time.
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The Acting CHAIR. The question is on the amendment offered by the
gentleman from Tennessee (Mr. Cohen).
The question was taken; and the Acting Chair announced that the noes
appeared to have it.
Mr. COHEN. Mr. Chairman, I demand a recorded vote.
The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to clause 6 of rule XVIII, further
proceedings on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Tennessee
will be postponed.
Amendment Offered by Mr. Cicilline
Mr. CICILLINE. Mr. Chairman, I have an amendment at the desk.
The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will report the amendment.
The Clerk read as follows:
Page 133, line 6, insert after the dollar amount the
following: ``(reduced by $475,000,000)''.
Page 161, line 12, insert after the dollar amount the
following: ``(increased by $475,000,000)''.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman from Rhode Island is recognized for 5
minutes.
Mr. CICILLINE. Mr. Chairman, I rise today in opposition to the
Afghanistan policy that is funded in the fiscal year 2012 Defense
appropriations bill. I join the efforts of my colleagues in a variety
of amendments designed to accelerate the end of the war in Afghanistan.
For more than 9 years now, our troops have been executing the
American mission in Afghanistan with bravery, dedication and
extraordinary competence; but what started out as a ``quick war'' in
2001 to bring Osama bin Laden to justice and to dismantle al Qaeda in
Afghanistan has turned into the longest war in United States history.
The original mission has now been largely accomplished, and with bin
Laden's death in Pakistan, this provides an opportunity to reexamine
our ongoing mission in Afghanistan, which some estimates indicate is
costing us in excess of $8 billion per month.
We should no longer be sending billions of American taxpayer dollars
to the Afghan people for their schools, their hospitals, their roads,
bridges, and police at the expense of making those same investments in
our own country, especially when the Afghanistan Government, under the
leadership of President Karzai, has proven itself incredibly corrupt.
In fact, Transparency International ranked Afghanistan the third most
corrupt country in the world; and The New York Times recently reported
about a road construction project, just one example in Afghanistan,
funded by American taxpayers. It's a 64-mile-long project and is
expected to cost $176 million to build, which comes to $2.8 million a
mile. Undisclosed amounts of money have gone to pay off local strongmen
to buy security while the project is ongoing, and it was reported that
the people collecting these bribes staged attacks on the construction
crews in order to make the bribes necessary in the first place.
With this kind of corruption and many other examples, we simply
cannot afford to finance the infrastructure projects associated with
this war. Don't forget, Mr. Chairman, that on top of everything else
we're not even paying for this war. It's actually being financed on the
national credit card. These are difficult economic and budgetary times.
It is time to reassess U.S. involvement in Afghanistan so that we can
focus on rebuilding our own economy, putting Americans back to work,
and making sure our Nation can compete in the 21st century.
That is why I'm offering this amendment today, which will strike $475
million from the Afghanistan Infrastructure Fund. Vital investments to
our country's economic stability, the education of our children, the
health of our seniors, and the employment of our workforce have time
and again been put on the chopping block in this Congress. We're told
that we can't afford to adequately repair our crumbling infrastructure
here in America; we're told that Pell Grants and student loans are too
expensive; and we're told that we need to change the safety nets for
our Nation's seniors and most vulnerable populations--and in the same
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breath, we're told we should continue to borrow billions and billions
of dollars for nation-building in Afghanistan. What we really should be
doing is nation-building right here at home. Instead of building roads
and bridges and hospitals and schools halfway around the world in
Afghanistan, we should be investing resources on the urgent needs of
our own country.
Budgets are a reflection of our priorities.
Are we going to pay down our Nation's debt? Are we going to make the
much needed investments in our own roads and bridges and ports? Are we
going to protect our seniors? Are we going to ensure that access to
college remains affordable? If we continue to spend billions and
billions of dollars in Afghanistan, then we cannot have a balanced
discussion of these priorities and these choices.
As we debate the merits of raising the debt ceiling and as we
consider our domestic priorities, I urge my colleagues to support my
amendment, which strikes $475 million from nation-building in
Afghanistan in order to keep those dollars right here at home--to
invest in our future and to reduce our debt.
There was a recent report, Mr. Chairman, done by the Eisenhower
Research Project at Brown University's Watson Institute for
International Studies just this past week. This group's cost of war
project has released new figures for a range of costs associated with
U.S. military responses to September 11, including our activities in
Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. They project that the wars will cost
Americans between $3.2- and $4 trillion and cost 225,000 lives.
It is time to end this spending. It is time to make these investments
in infrastructure in our own country, and I urge my colleagues to
support my amendment.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. YOUNG of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the
amendment.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman is recognized for 5 minutes.
Mr. YOUNG of Florida. This is pretty much the same debate we just
had. The difference is that this particular amendment just eliminates
the Afghanistan Infrastructure Fund altogether, and the other amendment
didn't do that.
This account, this Afghanistan Infrastructure Fund, was created by
Congress in the fiscal 11 authorization bill and again in the fiscal 12
authorization bill--which we just passed a few weeks ago--at the
request of General Petraeus, who made this one of the most important
parts of his counterinsurgency strategy. Now, if you don't believe that
General Petraeus knows what he's talking about, then maybe you should
vote for this amendment; but those of us who have watched General
Petraeus skillfully function as the leader in Iraq and there again at
Central Command and there again in Afghanistan, we believe that this is
not a good amendment and that it should be defeated, the same as the
other amendment that we just defeated, so I rise in opposition to this
amendment.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. CONAWAY. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the requisite number of
words.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman from Texas is recognized for 5
minutes.
Mr. CONAWAY. This amendment is very similar to the one we just
debated except as to the amounts, and it does strike the entire
infrastructure account. I would like to make a couple of points that I
didn't make earlier with respect to the previous amendment.
None of the conversation that I was ever aware of prior to bin
Laden's death remotely said that the war was over or that the fight was
over if we killed bin Laden. Had my colleagues on the other side of the
aisle been making that argument from start one, then it might have some
validity to it; but quite frankly, that was just a marker in this long
fight against Islamic jihadists and these terrorists.
The other issue of invoking past costs, or sunk costs, is informative
as to how we got to this point in time and as to looking at where we go
from here to when we have all American troops out of there; but how we
make the intelligent decisions and intelligent investments in
Afghanistan between now and then is the bigger question. Whatever it
costs to fight in Afghanistan, whatever it has cost to fight in Iraq
over the past 8 years or whatever, I understand those are big numbers;
but we are looking forward as to how we push the Afghan security system
to a point where they can take care of themselves and, in fact, begin
to run their country as they should.
Most of my good colleagues' arguments were better suited for the
conversation we had in April with reference to the overall budget. That
budget passed. This amount that we are now going to spend on the
Department of Defense fits under the discretionary spending cap that we
put in place by the majority vote of this House back in April. The
Subcommittee on Defense Appropriations had done their work, allocated
their amount of moneys across a lot of priorities, said ``no'' to a lot
of things, and said ``yes'' to this issue. So I rise in opposition to
my colleague's amendment, and I would urge my colleagues to oppose it
as well.
I yield back the balance of my time.
The Acting CHAIR. The question is on the amendment offered by the
gentleman from Rhode Island (Mr. Cicilline).
The question was taken; and the Acting Chair announced that the noes
appeared to have it.
Mr. CICILLINE. Mr. Chairman, I demand a recorded vote.
The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to clause 6 of rule XVIII, further
proceedings on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Rhode Island
will be postponed.
Amendment No. 39 Offered by Mr. Clarke of Michigan
Mr. CLARKE of Michigan. Mr. Chairman, I have an amendment at the
desk.
The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will designate the amendment.
The text of the amendment is as follows:
Page 135, line 11, insert before the period at the end the
following: ``: Provided further, That of the funds made
available under this heading, the Secretary of Defense shall
transfer $236,000,000 to the Secretary of Transportation for
the National Infrastructure Investments program''.
Mr. CLARKE of Michigan (during the reading). I ask unanimous consent
to waive the reading requirement.
The Acting CHAIR. Is there objection to the request of the gentleman
from Michigan?
There was no objection.
Mr. YOUNG of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I reserve a point of order on the
gentleman's amendment.
The Acting CHAIR. A point of order is reserved.
The gentleman from Michigan is recognized for 5 minutes.
(Mr. CLARKE of Michigan asked and was given permission to revise and
extend his remarks.)
Mr. CLARKE of Michigan. This amendment would shift $236 million from
the Afghanistan Infrastructure Fund and would return that money back to
the taxpayers of the United States--the U.S. Department of
Transportation's National Infrastructure Investments program.
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Look, I understand that we're trying to fight terrorism by spending
all this money in Afghanistan, but the best way to protect the American
people from terrorist attacks is to repair our roads and bridges,
secure our ports, help fund secure rapid transit systems so we don't
have to spend as much money buying foreign oil--and you know that some
of that money that goes to these foreign countries when we buy oil ends
up in the hands of terrorists. Let's redirect a share of the money that
is going to rebuild roads in Afghanistan to build and invest in transit
in America. Not only is this good for Americans, we're going to pave
over all these potholes that are damaging our cars. And with rapid
transit programs, we're going to help provide people who can't afford a
car--or in my area, in metro Detroit, people can't afford auto
insurance even though they have good driving records because they're
red-lined. At least if we transfer some of that money to transit, they
will have a way to go to work and to other events for leisure.
But the bottom line is this: If we invest this money in the United
States as opposed to spending it all in Afghanistan, we're going to
create jobs here in the United States. That is the best way
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to secure our country--to make sure we put as many people as possible
here back to work.
I urge your support on this amendment.
This amendment would shift $236 million from the Afghanistan
Infrastructure Fund, AIF, to the Department of Transportation's
National Infrastructure Investments Program.
The Afghanistan Infrastructure Fund provides funding for
infrastructure projects such as water, power and transportation and
related maintenance and sustainment cost.
My amendment would cut the amount dedicated to this fund in half.
While we can agree that this funding is helpful to the Afghan people, I
believe that we need to invest in nation-building at home at least as
much as we invest abroad.
My amendment would restore about half of the funding historically
given to the National Infrastructure Investments Program, which is
zeroed out in this bill.
The National Infrastructure Investments Program awards grants to
state, local, and transit agencies on a competitive basis for highway,
bridge, port and rail projects that stand to make a significant
national or regional impact.
The Department of Transportation estimates that, for every $1 billion
invested in Federal highways, more than $6.2 billion in economic
activity is generated. Spending tax dollars in Afghanistan fails to
create the same economic multiplier.
The U.S. has invested approximately $51 billion in reconstruction and
development for Afghanistan since 2002.
Our nation faces an ``infrastructure deficit'' as well as a fiscal
deficit: federal investment in infrastructure has declined as a share
of GDP over the past fifty years while the cost of building new
infrastructure has risen.
A report from the American Society of Civil Engineers estimates that
the nation needs $2.2 trillion dollars of infrastructure expenditure
over the next 5 years, but less than half that amount has been
budgeted.
This is an important issue, and we need to make sure we are taking
care of our country's infrastructure needs. I hope that we can work
together to make sure that we have adequate funding for the highway,
bridge, and port projects that create jobs and further commerce here at
home. I think that as we reassess our mission in Afghanistan we should
be able to fund these kinds of important programs and still devote
significant savings to the deficit.
However, I understand that the House rules do not allow transfers
such as are proposed in this amendment, so I will withdraw the
amendment in the hopes we can work on this issue in the future.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Point of Order
Mr. YOUNG of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I make a point of order against
the amendment because it proposes to change existing law and
constitutes legislation in an appropriation bill and therefore violates
clause 2 of rule XXI.
The rule states in pertinent part: ``An amendment to a general
appropriation bill shall not be in order if changing existing law.''
The amendment gives affirmative direction in effect.
I ask for a ruling from the Chair.
The Acting CHAIR. Does any Member wish to address the point of order?
The gentleman from Michigan is recognized.
Mr. CLARKE of Michigan. I understand the honorable Representative's
point of order here.
You know, if there is anything that is not in order, it's the nature
of these rules. There are people out here in this country who are
taxpayers, they don't want to see their money spent or borrowed in
Afghanistan rebuilding their roads when we have all these potholes
right here. We should be able to, in this Congress----
Mr. YOUNG of Florida. Point of order, Mr. Chairman.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman's comments must be confined to the
point of order.
Mr. YOUNG of Florida. Mr. Chairman, the gentleman is not debating the
point of order, and so I insist on the point of order.
The Acting CHAIR. The Chair is prepared to rule.
The Chair finds that this amendment includes language imparting
direction to transfer funds. The amendment therefore constitutes
legislation in violation of clause 2 of rule XXI.
The point of order is sustained, and the amendment is not in order.
The Clerk will read.
The Clerk read as follows:
Afghanistan Security Forces Fund
(including transfer of funds)
For the ``Afghanistan Security Forces Fund'',
$12,800,000,000, to remain available until September 30,
2013: Provided, That such funds shall be available to the
Secretary of Defense, notwithstanding any other provision of
law, for the purpose of allowing the Commander, Combined
Security Transition Command--Afghanistan, or the Secretary's
designee, to provide assistance, with the concurrence of the
Secretary of State, to the security forces of Afghanistan,
including the provision of equipment, supplies, services,
training, facility and infrastructure repair, renovation, and
construction, and funding: Provided further, That the
authority to provide assistance under this heading is in
addition to any other authority to provide assistance to
foreign nations: Provided further, That up to $15,000,000 of
these funds may be available for coalition police trainer
life support costs: Provided further, That contributions of
funds for the purposes provided herein from any person,
foreign government, or international organization may be
credited to this Fund and used for such purposes: Provided
further, That the Secretary of Defense shall notify the
congressional defense committees in writing upon the receipt
and upon the obligation of any contribution, delineating the
sources and amounts of the funds received and the specific
use of such contributions: Provided further, That the
Secretary of Defense shall, not fewer than 15 days prior to
obligating from this appropriation account, notify the
congressional defense committees in writing of the details of
any such obligation: Provided further, That the Secretary of
Defense shall notify the congressional defense committees of
any proposed new projects or transfer of funds between budget
sub-activity groups in excess of $20,000,000: Provided
further, That each amount in this paragraph is designated as
being for the global war on terrorism pursuant to section 301
of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th Congress).
Amendment Offered by Mr. Cohen
Mr. COHEN. Mr. Chairman, I have an amendment at the desk.
The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will report the amendment.
The Clerk read as follows:
Page 135, line 15, after the dollar amount, insert
``(reduced by $4,000,000,000)''.
Page 161, line 12, after the dollar amount, insert
``(increased by $4,000,000,000)''.
Mr. COHEN (during the reading). Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent
to waive the reading.
The Acting CHAIR. Is there objection to the request of the gentleman
from Tennessee?
Mr. COFFMAN of Colorado. Mr. Chairman, I object.
The Acting CHAIR. Objection is heard.
The Clerk will continue to read.
The Clerk continued to read.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman from Tennessee is recognized for 5
minutes.
Mr. COHEN. Mr. Chairman, I do realize the result of this amendment
probably. There is another Latin phrase besides ``nunc pro tunc,''
which is ``morituri te salutant,'' which is basically ``we who are
about to die salute you.''
I understand the votes today, and I see them, but I find it hard to
fathom, with the American public--and my colleagues on the other side
of the aisle, who are indeed concerned about the deficit, not going at
the place where you can really get to the deficit, which is in spending
in the defense budget. That's Moby-Dick. You don't throw your harpoons
at a minnow; you throw your harpoon at the whale. This is the whale.
And Captain Ahab had a good point; you go out there and you see the big
one, you go for it.
This would reduce the funds we are giving to the Afghanistan security
forces by $4 billion. It wouldn't take all of it. It would keep two-
thirds--they would still have two-thirds. It would reduce it by $4
billion and return those funds to help the deficit. The $12.8 billion
that is currently allocated to this fund is nearly equivalent to the
entire GPD of Afghanistan. Their GPD is $14 billion to $16 billion.
Let's understand this, Mr. Chairman: We are giving the Afghanistan
people their entire GDP, and we're borrowing it from China and other
places. This makes no sense. We need to go after the big whale.
Six times the total annual revenue of the Afghan Government--which is
approximately $1.5 billion--is what we're giving them. I understand
these funds are to be used to provide assistance to the security forces
of Afghanistan, including training and providing equipment, supplies,
and services. Well, I have seen soldiers killed over there, my
constituents that were killed by Afghanistan soldiers that we trained.
We don't know which ones are Taliban and which ones are going to turn
on us, and we're training them and giving them weapons.
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Roughly $6 billion of the $12.8 billion is for salaries and benefits.
In light of the President's announcement of withdrawing troops from
Afghanistan, we need to make reductions all around, and that includes
reduction for these security forces. This country could not, should not
fund the structure that the Afghanistan Government cannot fund and at a
time when we need to take a look at our deficit.
Now I have heard General Petraeus' name over there. I'm a fan of
General Petraeus too, but he's sometimes wrong. He's sometimes wrong.
And I think he was for us supporting the President in Libya. And some
of the folks over there that are so supportive of General Petraeus
weren't so supportive of General Petraeus then. So they understand he's
not always right, and he's not right on these funds either. These
troops are not going to be trained in a way that they're going to be
able to sustain the forces. They're not going to use the weapons,
they're not going to be able to supply them. It's going to be a waste.
General Mike Mullen talked about our debt being our biggest security
threat, and accordingly we need to readjust our priorities and find
realistic ways to reduce our deficit. This is a way we can do it and
save $4 billion--still give them $8.8 billion. It's plenty. I'd like to
see it all cut, but I realize that's not realistic. But we are pulling
out. We're not going to be able to train those troops to where they're
going to be able to maintain the funds to pay those troops in the
future. Most of it is salaries, and when we're gone they're not going
to have the salaries.
I've been to Afghanistan, you've been to Afghanistan. It is beyond
Third World--it's Fourth World, and we're giving them the last of our
dollars. If you really, really, really, really care about reducing the
deficit, you've got to go for the whale, you've got to go for the
defense budget. And just giving this money to Afghanistan is I think a
dereliction of duty.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. COFFMAN of Colorado. Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the
amendment.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman is recognized for 5 minutes.
Mr. COFFMAN of Colorado. Mr. Chairman, as we speak, our marines,
soldiers, sailors, and airmen are fighting for freedom in some of the
toughest places imaginable. A vote for this resolution is a vote to
pull the support out from under our troops and to leave a legacy of
failure in Afghanistan. I urge against supporting this amendment.
Although I applaud the bravery and skill of the personnel who brought
Osama bin Laden to justice, it is important to remember that this is
not justification to abandon our efforts to increase the security in
Afghanistan. The men and women of our military are working tirelessly
to increase the proficiency of Afghan security forces, but to
transition lead responsibility for security to them is irresponsible at
this time. The Afghan security forces did not suddenly become more
proficient because of the death of Osama bin Laden. I am strongly
supportive of transitioning responsibility to the Afghan security
forces, but only when they are fully prepared to assume that
responsibility.
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I agree that nation-building should not be a principal tool for
achieving America's national security objectives. Such campaigns are
too expensive in both blood and treasure, particularly given the
circumstances our Nation currently faces. However, this is not an
excuse to negate the sacrifices our troops have made or the progress
they have won in Afghanistan.
I believe that establishing an arbitrary time line for withdrawal
will actually hobble any efforts for a political reconciliation with
the Taliban. If they are certain that our forces are leaving before the
currently planned transition time line of 2014, they lose all incentive
to work with us and the Afghan Government on a political solution.
What this amendment, in fact, does, though, is cuts off funding for
the development of Afghan security forces. Our entire exit strategy is
based on developing Afghan security forces so that they are strong
enough to allow us to pull our forces out to complete a transition
whereby they assume operational control by 2014.
Mr. COHEN. Will the gentleman yield?
Mr. COFFMAN of Colorado. I yield to the gentleman from Tennessee.
Mr. COHEN. Half of the money we give them is for salaries. When we
pull out, we don't pay the salaries. Their budget is only like 15
percent of everything we give them. They can't pay the salaries. They
can't borrow from China. So what's going to happen then?
Mr. COFFMAN of Colorado. We have three security objectives in
Afghanistan. The first is to make sure the Taliban don't take over the
entire country. The second is to keep al Qaeda out of the country. And
the third is to have a permissive environment from which we can strike
targets in Pakistan at will, as we did with Osama bin Laden.
Cutting the legs under the current strategy of giving them the
capability of standing up their own security forces completely
undermines where we are right now and undermines the President's goals
of being able to do that transfer of operational control by 2014.
Mr. Chairman, I urge my colleagues to vote against the amendment.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. YOUNG of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman is recognized for 5 minutes.
Mr. YOUNG of Florida. First, I want to compliment the gentleman from
Colorado for having made a very, very eloquent statement that really is
factual and gets right to the point. But the reason I rise also is
earlier in the day, just in case there are Members here tonight that
weren't there early today, I did suggest that I might say this again
and again and again during this debate. This subcommittee that
recommends this bill in a very nonpolitical way, in a very careful way,
reviewed and analyzed all of the requests that we had from the
administration in the President's budget request for fiscal year 2012
appropriations for national defense.
The original recommendation, we reduced by $9 billion, and I think
that is larger than the gentleman's whale, but it is a substantial cut
and it was made without any regard to politics. We were extremely
careful not to affect the war fighter. We were extremely careful not to
affect our Nation's readiness. This is not a good amendment, and I
oppose the amendment.
I yield back the balance of my time.
The Acting CHAIR. The question is on the amendment offered by the
gentleman from Tennessee (Mr. Cohen).
The question was taken; and the Acting Chair announced that the noes
appeared to have it.
Mr. COHEN. I demand a recorded vote.
The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to clause 6 of rule XVIII, further
proceedings on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Tennessee
will be postponed.
Amendment No. 44 Offered by Mr. Holt
Mr. HOLT. I have an amendment at the desk.
The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will designate the amendment.
The text of the amendment is as follows:
Page 135, line 15, insert after the dollar amount the
following: ``(reduced by $35,000,000)''.
Page 146, line 6, insert after the dollar amount the
following: ``(increased by $20,000,000)''.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman from New Jersey is recognized for 5
minutes.
Mr. HOLT. Mr. Chairman, my amendment is simple. It reduces the Afghan
Security Forces account by about 1 part in 500, one five-hundredth, in
order to increase the Defense Health Program account by $20 million to
save soldiers' lives. It will give the Pentagon a much-needed infusion
of funds to address a serious gap in our military's suicide prevention.
I learned about this gap through the tragedy of a young constituent
from New Jersey who fell through the cracks. He took his own life in
September of 2008. But it is not just one soldier. We have a broad
problem here. In each of the past 2 years, more American soldiers have
died at their own hands than have been killed in war fighting.
Coleman Bean of East Brunswick, New Jersey, attended East Brunswick
public schools, he enlisted in the Army
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in 2001, and he attended Airborne school at Fort Benning. His first
assignment with the 173rd Airborne was in Italy. In 2003, he and the
rest of the 173rd conducted a combat jump into Iraq.
Like many of his buddies, he saw the horrors of war firsthand, and,
like some, he sought treatment from the VA for his diagnosed post-
traumatic stress disorder when he returned home in 2004. He was
honorably discharged from active duty in 2005, and, like other Army
members, Coleman Bean still had 4 years of reserve duty commitment
through what is known as the Individual Ready Reserve (IRR) program. He
was recalled to duty in Iraq in 2007 through the IRR and was assigned
to serve in northern Iraq. When he returned to New Jersey the following
year, he was still suffering from the symptoms of PTSD but managed to
conceal his condition from even those closest to him. No one reached
out to him. Tragically, he took his own life in September 2008.
Ironically, tragically, a few weeks after Coleman took his life, the VA
called to say that his appointment was ready.
Two Federal agencies charged with helping prevent suicides among our
returning soldiers utterly failed this soldier and his family. Indeed,
earlier this year, the Ninth Circuit Court, siding with two veterans
groups that sued the Department of Veterans Affairs for failing to
provide timely care for veterans at risk of suicide, noted that an
average of 18 veterans per day take their own lives. We must stop this
epidemic. This amendment will help. We can't allow another family to
lose a son or a daughter, a father or a mother, a husband or a wife
because of buck-passing.
When I investigated Coleman Bean's tragedy, the VA confirmed that
they don't offer dedicated suicide prevention programs for members of
the IRR. They consider that a DOD responsibility. The DOD officials at
TRICARE said that treating IRR members is the VA's problem. Simply
stated, if you are a member of the Individual Ready Reserve suffering
from PTSD, you're on your own.
The same problem applies to other categories of reservists, such as
the Individual Mobilization Augmentees (IMAs), and the members of the
Inactive National Guard (ING). According to the Defense Department,
there are at least 123,000 IRR, IMA, and ING members who have done at
least one tour in Iraq or Afghanistan.
My amendment would give the Secretary of Defense the funding needed
to expand the suicide prevention outreach program to ensure that
members of these reserve units who have served a tour in Iraq or
Afghanistan will receive a call from a properly trained counselor not
less than once every 90 days so long as the servicemember remains in
the IRR, the IMA or the ING. In these calls, the trained counselor
would be required to determine the emotional, psychological, mental,
medical and career needs and concerns of the reservist. Covered
reservists identified as being at risk would be immediately referred to
the nearest military treatment facility.
I have discussed this program with the Pentagon. The Undersecretary
of Defense for Personnel and Readiness, Dr. Stanley, assures me that
the Department has more than adequate legal authority to carry this
out. What he needs is funding, and my amendment would provide that
funding.
When we get the word out about these counseling services, we save
lives. This amendment is budget neutral, it is vitally needed, and I
ask my colleagues to support it.
The Acting CHAIR. The time of the gentleman has expired.
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Mr. DICKS. I move to strike the requisite number of words.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman from Washington is recognized for 5
minutes.
Mr. DICKS. I rise in support of the amendment, and urge that we
accept it.
Mr. YOUNG of Florida. Will the gentleman yield?
Mr. DICKS. I yield to the chairman.
Mr. YOUNG of Florida. We will accept the amendment.
Mr. DICKS. I yield back the balance of my time.
The Acting CHAIR. The question is on the amendment offered by the
gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Holt).
The amendment was agreed to.
Amendment No. 37 Offered by Mr. Clarke of Michigan
Mr. CLARKE of Michigan. Mr. Chairman, I have an amendment at the
desk.
The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will designate the amendment.
The text of the amendment is as follows:
Page 136, line 23, insert before the period at the end the
following: ``: Provided further, That of the funds made
available under this heading, the Secretary of Defense shall
transfer $2,000,000,000 to the Secretary of Homeland Security
to increase funds available for the State Homeland Security
Grant Program under section 2004 of the Homeland Security Act
of 2002 (6 U.S.C. 605)''.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman is recognized for 5 minutes.
(Mr. CLARKE of Michigan asked and was given permission to revise and
extend his remarks.)
Mr. CLARKE of Michigan. This amendment redirects $2 billion from
Afghanistan Security Forces to the State Homeland Security Grants
Program (SHSP).
My amendment makes sure that the Afghanistan Security Forces aren't
funded at the expense of our country's Homeland Security efforts.
The State Homeland Security Grants Program ensures that states have
strategies in place to protect, respond to, and recover from acts of
terrorism and other catastrophic events.
State Homeland Security Grants Program was cut dramatically in the FY
'12 Homeland Security Appropriations bill and was underfunded in the FY
'11 bill. This amendment would restore grant funding to the FY '10
level to make sure our first responders have the resources they need to
keep our communities safe.
My amendment does not jeopardize the training and equipping of the
Afghanistan Security Forces. Even with my amendment, the Afghanistan
Security Forces Fund is funded above the FY '10 level of $9.1 billion.
This is an important issue, and we need to make sure we are taking
care of our country's homeland security needs. I hope that we can work
together to make sure that we have adequate funding for protecting
ourselves from terrorism and catastrophic events. I think that as we
reassess our mission in Afghanistan we should be able to fund these
kinds of important programs and still devote significant savings to the
deficit.
However, I understand that the House rules do not allow transfers
such as are proposed in this amendment, so I will withdraw the
amendment in the hopes we can work on this issue in the future.
Point of Order
Mr. YOUNG of Alaska. Mr. Chairman, I make a point of order against
the amendment because it proposes to change existing law and
constitutes legislation in an appropriations bill and therefore
violates clause 2 of rule XXI.
The rule states in pertinent part: An amendment to a general
appropriations bill shall not be in order if changing existing law. The
amendment gives affirmative direction in effect.
I ask for a ruling from the Chair.
The Acting CHAIR. Does another Member wish to be heard on the point
of order?
Mr. CLARKE of Michigan. Mr. Chair, I would like to speak on the
amendment.
The Acting CHAIR. A point of order is pending.
Mr. CLARKE of Michigan. I would like to speak on the point of order.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman is recognized.
Mr. CLARKE of Michigan. This bill, this amendment which transfers
money from the Afghanistan Security Forces to Homeland Security, it
better supports existing law, better supports this defense budget
because it better protects the American people, less money by funding
police and fire as opposed to blowing all that money in Afghanistan.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman must confine his remarks to the point
of order.
Mr. YOUNG of Alaska. Point of order.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman from Florida is recognized.
Mr. YOUNG of Alaska. Again the gentleman is discussing the amendment
and not the point of order.
The Acting CHAIR. The Chair will hear Members on the point of order.
The Chair is prepared to rule.
Mr. CLARKE of Michigan. Mr. Chair, just to clarify.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman is recognized.
Mr. CLARKE of Michigan. In order to explain my position on the point
of
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order, I had to explain the merits of this amendment. This Defense
budget is about protecting the American people. I'm saying redirect the
money to Homeland Security.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman will confine his remarks to the point
of order.
The Chair is prepared to rule. For the reasons stated in the previous
ruling, the amendment violates clause 2 of rule XXI. The point of order
is sustained. The amendment is not in order.
Mr. YOUNG of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman is recognized for 5 minutes.
Mr. YOUNG of Alaska. I made this announcement earlier in the day that
I would allow the Member to have the 5 minutes to speak on the
amendment even though it was subject to a point of order, if that
courtesy was not abused. In recent points of order, that courtesy has
been abused.
I will continue to show that courtesy to Members who do not abuse
their 5 minutes and who do not abuse the point of order.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. CLARKE of Michigan. I move to strike the last word.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman is recognized for 5 minutes.
Mr. CLARKE of Michigan. As a new Member in this body, I have the
utmost respect for this institution and to the chair. And to the extent
that I appeared to be out of bounds, I do apologize.
It's the fact that this country is in crisis. We have a huge debt. We
have so many people that need jobs. And since the budget resolution was
passed, April 15, Osama bin Laden was captured and killed, and that
provided us with an opportunity to reassess our mission in Afghanistan.
I want us to take a little share of our money that we're spending in
Afghanistan and return it here to protect the American people, and also
take the remainder of the savings to pay down our debt.
And I do understand what the rules provide. It is just, Mr. Chair, in
closing, I believe these rules are old and out of date. We need to, in
this House, respond more quickly and nimbly and more effectively on
behalf of the American people.
And my closing point is this. We've spent over $50 billion in
economic aid to Afghanistan. Let's take a share of that money, redirect
it back home, create jobs here by repairing our roads and bridges. I
understand that we don't want to have safe havens for terrorists around
the world like Afghanistan. The best way to protect the American people
is invest in homeland security, help fund our police and firefighters.
They don't have the equipment that they need. The communication and
radios with which they can talk to each other, they can share
information.
And also, too, I believe it's the duty of this Congress to find a way
to provide more equipment in funding for police and fire because this
Congress in the past had failed to effectively address the foreclosure
crisis which really dropped property values so our local units of
government don't have the revenue to hire more police and fire.
So saying that, I want to say to the chairman that I respect your
position; I respect this institution. I'm here trying to fight for my
people I represent in metro Detroit and return American tax dollars
back to Americans to create jobs here and to protect Americans here at
home.
I yield back the balance of my time.
The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will read.
The Clerk read as follows:
Pakistan Counterinsurgency Fund
(including transfer of funds)
For the ``Pakistan Counterinsurgency Fund'',
$1,100,000,000, to remain available until September 30, 2013:
Provided, That such funds shall be available to the Secretary
of Defense, with the concurrence of the Secretary of State,
notwithstanding any other provision of law, for the purpose
of allowing the Secretary of Defense, or the Secretary's
designee, to provide assistance to Pakistan's security
forces; including program management and the provision of
equipment, supplies, services, training, and funds; and
facility and infrastructure repair, renovation, and
construction to build the counterinsurgency capability of
Pakistan's military and Frontier Corps: Provided further,
That the authority to provide assistance under this provision
is in addition to any other authority to provide assistance
to foreign nations: Provided further, That the Secretary of
Defense may transfer funds provided herein to appropriations
for operation and maintenance; procurement; research,
development, test and evaluation; defense working capital
funds; and to the Department of State, Pakistan
Counterinsurgency Capability Fund to accomplish the purpose
provided herein: Provided further, That the transfer
authority in the preceding proviso is in addition to any
other authority available to the Department of Defense to
transfer funds: Provided further, That funds so transferred
shall be merged with and be available for the same purposes
and for the same time period as the appropriation or fund to
which transferred: Provided further, That the Secretary of
Defense shall, not fewer than 15 days prior to making
transfers from this appropriation account, notify the
Committees on Appropriations in writing of the details of any
such transfer: Provided further, That each amount in this
paragraph is designated as being for the global war on
terrorism pursuant to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th
Congress).
Amendment Offered by Mr. Poe of Texas
Mr. POE of Texas. I have an amendment at the desk.
The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will report the amendment.
The Clerk read as follows:
Page 137, line 4, after the dollar amount, insert
``(reduced by $1,000,000,000)''.
Page 161, line 12, after the dollar amount, insert
``(increased by $1,000,000,000)''.
Mr. POE of Texas (during the reading). I ask unanimous consent to
waive the reading of the amendment.
The Acting CHAIR. Is there objection to the request of the gentleman
from Texas?
There was no objection.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman from Texas is recognized for 5
minutes.
Mr. POE of Texas. Mr. Chairman, I'll be brief.
I had my argument on the other $1 billion that I asked to be deducted
from the reimbursement account to be sent to the spending reduction
account.
This is a separate fund that also gives money to Pakistan, over a
billion dollars. I'm asking that a billion dollars of that fund that
goes into counterinsurgency also be sent to the spending reduction
account.
There are several reasons for that, but the main one is the Pakistan
Government is correct: we don't know where the money is going. We found
out that after we took out Osama bin Laden, in that compound we found
documents that revealed discussions of promises of no al Qaeda attacks
in Pakistan in exchange for sheltering Osama bin Laden.
That's the type of things that we wonder about whether Pakistan is on
our side or on the side of our enemies. We don't know whose side
they're on. So I'd ask the adoption of our amendment.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. FRELINGHUYSEN. I move to strike the final word.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman from New Jersey is recognized for 5
minutes.
Mr. FRELINGHUYSEN. I rise in opposition to the amendment.
I yield to the gentleman from California for any comments he may
have.
Mr. LEWIS of California. Mr. Chairman, I rise to support the goals of
this amendment which are to demand accountability from a nation that
until recently has been one of our good friends.
Pakistan has faced serious problems throughout its history, and the
United States has played a leading role in helping stabilize that
troubled nation. We have spent billions and billion of dollars in
military support and billions and billions more in economic assistance.
We have worked as close as we can with Pakistan's military and
intelligence agencies in order to stabilize the border region near
Afghanistan where al Qaeda and the Taliban are trying to overthrow both
Afghanistan and the Pakistan governments.
It is therefore hard to express the anger and frustration of all
Americans when we discovered that Osama bin Laden, the man who had
engineered the death of thousands on American soil, was living in
comfort just a short drive from Islamabad. And we have asked in vain
how this could occur. Rather than help us get to the bottom of how this
international criminal could live for years within blocks of their
military school, we received protests from Pakistani officials that our
brave Special Forces captured and killed bin Laden under their noses.
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But, Mr. Chairman, what has really outraged me and many of my
colleagues is that the Pakistanis have had
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the audacity to arrest and detain the informants who helped us bring
this ultimate terrorist to justice. It is almost too much to take, and
it is time that we made it clear to the Pakistanis that our friendship
is at the breaking point. For this reason, I am convinced that we must
carefully scrutinize every dollar that we are spending in Pakistan in
this bill, and especially in the Foreign Operations bill.
And, Mr. Chairman, while I want to support Chairman Young and the
work of Mr. Dicks, as well as the rest of my colleagues on this
committee, I do want to serve notice that as we go forward and I am
able to gather more information, I could very well be presenting a very
similar amendment in the Foreign Operations bill. It is high time that
we get the answers that we seek here and know really which friends are
truly our friends.
Mr. FRELINGHUYSEN. I continue to be opposed, and I yield back the
balance of my time.
Mr. COFFMAN of Colorado. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last
word.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman is recognized for 5 minutes.
Mr. COFFMAN of Colorado. Mr. Chairman, there is no question that the
Pakistanis are a troubled ally. They are an unstable Islamic country
with extremist tendencies and a country that has nuclear weapons. The
funding that we are talking about right now is that which is for
training them in counterinsurgency operations.
We have troops in combat at this time in Afghanistan. The Taliban,
the Afghan Taliban who are fighting our forces in the field oftentimes
have sanctuary in Pakistan. We are trying to stand up a Pakistani
military that is not simply exclusively engaged or exclusively focused
on a conventional war with India but is able to launch
counterinsurgency operations, particularly in the Federally
Administered Tribal Areas. I think this funding is critical so long as
we have troops in the field in Afghanistan that we seek to maintain, or
certainly increase the capability of the Pakistani military
counterinsurgency operations.
With that, Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to this amendment and
would urge my colleagues to vote against it.
I yield back the balance of my time.
The Acting CHAIR. The question is on the amendment offered by the
gentleman from Texas (Mr. Poe).
The question was taken; and the Acting Chair announced that the noes
appeared to have it.
Mr. POE of Texas. Mr. Chairman, I demand a recorded vote.
The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to clause 6 of rule XVIII, further
proceedings on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Texas will
be postponed.
The Clerk will read.
The Clerk read as follows:
PROCUREMENT
Aircraft Procurement, Army
For an additional amount for ``Aircraft Procurement,
Army'', $387,900,000, to remain available until September 30,
2014: Provided, That each amount in this paragraph is
designated as being for the global war on terrorism pursuant
to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th Congress).
Missile Procurement, Army
For an additional amount for ``Missile Procurement, Army'',
$118,412,000, to remain available until September 30, 2014:
Provided, That each amount in this paragraph is designated as
being for the global war on terrorism pursuant to section 301
of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th Congress).
Procurement of Weapons and Tracked Combat Vehicles, Army
For an additional amount for ``Procurement of Weapons and
Tracked Combat Vehicles, Army'', $37,117,000, to remain
available until September 30, 2014: Provided, That each
amount in this paragraph is designated as being for the
global war on terrorism pursuant to section 301 of H. Con.
Res. 34 (112th Congress).
Procurement of Ammunition, Army
For an additional amount for ``Procurement of Ammunition,
Army'', $208,381,000, to remain available until September 30,
2014: Provided, That each amount in this paragraph is
designated as being for the global war on terrorism pursuant
to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th Congress).
Other Procurement, Army
For an additional amount for ``Other Procurement, Army'',
$1,398,195,000, to remain available until September 30, 2014:
Provided, That each amount in this paragraph is designated as
being for the global war on terrorism pursuant to section 301
of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th Congress).
Aircraft Procurement, Navy
For an additional amount for ``Aircraft Procurement,
Navy'', $492,060,000, to remain available until September 30,
2014: Provided, That each amount in this paragraph is
designated as being for the global war on terrorism pursuant
to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th Congress).
Weapons Procurement, Navy
For an additional amount for ``Weapons Procurement, Navy'',
$41,070,000, to remain available until September 30, 2014:
Provided, That each amount in this paragraph is designated as
being for the global war on terrorism pursuant to section 301
of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th Congress).
Procurement of Ammunition, Navy and Marine Corps
For an additional amount for ``Procurement of Ammunition,
Navy and Marine Corps'', $317,100,000, to remain available
until September 30, 2014: Provided, That each amount in this
paragraph is designated as being for the global war on
terrorism pursuant to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th
Congress).
Other Procurement, Navy
For an additional amount for ``Other Procurement, Navy'',
$249,514,000, to remain available until September 30, 2014:
Provided, That each amount in this paragraph is designated as
being for the global war on terrorism pursuant to section 301
of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th Congress).
Procurement, Marine Corps
For an additional amount for ``Procurement, Marine Corps'',
$1,183,996,000, to remain available until September 30, 2014:
Provided, That each amount in this paragraph is designated as
being for the global war on terrorism pursuant to section 301
of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th Congress).
Aircraft Procurement, Air Force
For an additional amount for ``Aircraft Procurement, Air
Force'', $440,265,000, to remain available until September
30, 2014: Provided, That each amount in this paragraph is
designated as being for the global war on terrorism pursuant
to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th Congress).
Missile Procurement, Air Force
For an additional amount for ``Missile Procurement, Air
Force'', $46,920,000, to remain available until September 30,
2014: Provided, That each amount in this paragraph is
designated as being for the global war on terrorism pursuant
to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th Congress).
Procurement of Ammunition, Air Force
For an additional amount for ``Procurement of Ammunition,
Air Force'', $139,510,000, to remain available until
September 30, 2014: Provided, That each amount in this
paragraph is designated as being for the global war on
terrorism pursuant to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th
Congress).
Other Procurement, Air Force
For an additional amount for ``Other Procurement, Air
Force'', $3,213,010,000, to remain available until September
30, 2014: Provided, That each amount in this paragraph is
designated as being for the global war on terrorism pursuant
to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th Congress).
Procurement, Defense-Wide
For an additional amount for ``Procurement, Defense-Wide'',
$406,668,000, to remain available until September 30, 2014:
Provided, That each amount in this paragraph is designated as
being for the global war on terrorism pursuant to section 301
of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th Congress).
National Guard and Reserve Equipment
For procurement of aircraft, missiles, tracked combat
vehicles, ammunition, other weapons and other procurement for
the reserve components of the Armed Forces, $1,500,000,000,
to remain available for obligation until September 30, 2014,
of which $490,000,000 shall be available only for the Army
National Guard: Provided, That the Chiefs of National Guard
and Reserve components shall, not later than 30 days after
the enactment of this Act, individually submit to the
congressional defense committees the modernization priority
assessment for their respective National Guard or Reserve
component: Provided further, That each amount in this
paragraph is designated as being for the global war on
terrorism pursuant to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th
Congress).
Mine Resistant Ambush Protected Vehicle Fund
(including transfer of funds)
For the Mine Resistant Ambush Protected Vehicle Fund,
$3,195,170,000, to remain available until September 30, 2013:
Provided, That such funds shall be available to the Secretary
of Defense, notwithstanding any other provision of law, to
procure, sustain, transport, and field Mine Resistant Ambush
Protected vehicles: Provided further, That the Secretary
shall transfer such funds only to appropriations made
available in this or any other Act for operation and
maintenance; procurement; research, development, test and
evaluation; and defense working capital funds to accomplish
the purpose provided herein: Provided further, That such
funds transferred shall be merged with and be available for
the same purposes and the same time period as the
appropriation to which transferred: Provided further, That
this transfer authority is in addition to any other transfer
authority available to the Department of Defense: Provided
further, That the Secretary shall, not fewer than 10 days
prior to making transfers from this appropriation, notify the
congressional defense committees
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in writing of the details of any such transfer: Provided
further, That each amount in this paragraph is designated as
being for the global war on terrorism pursuant to section 301
of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th Congress).
RESEARCH, DEVELOPMENT, TEST, AND EVALUATION
Research, Development, Test and Evaluation, Army
For an additional amount for ``Research, Development, Test
and Evaluation, Army'', $8,513,000, to remain available until
September 30, 2013: Provided, That each amount in this
paragraph is designated as being for the global war on
terrorism pursuant to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th
Congress).
Research, Development, Test and Evaluation, Navy
For an additional amount for ``Research, Development, Test
and Evaluation, Navy'', $53,884,000, to remain available
until September 30, 2013: Provided, That each amount in this
paragraph is designated as being for the global war on
terrorism pursuant to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th
Congress).
Research, Development, Test and Evaluation, Air Force
For an additional amount for ``Research, Development, Test
and Evaluation, Air Force'', $182,000,000, to remain
available until September 30, 2013: Provided, That each
amount in this paragraph is designated as being for the
global war on terrorism pursuant to section 301 of H. Con.
Res. 34 (112th Congress).
Research, Development, Test and Evaluation, Defense-Wide
For an additional amount for ``Research, Development, Test
and Evaluation, Defense-Wide'', $192,361,000, to remain
available until September 30, 2013: Provided, That each
amount in this paragraph is designated as being for the
global war on terrorism pursuant to section 301 of H. Con.
Res. 34 (112th Congress).
REVOLVING AND MANAGEMENT FUNDS
Defense Working Capital Funds
For an additional amount for ``Defense Working Capital
Funds'', $435,013,000: Provided, That each amount in this
paragraph is designated as being for the global war on
terrorism pursuant to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th
Congress).
OTHER DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE PROGRAMS
Defense Health Program
For an additional amount for ``Defense Health Program'',
$1,228,288,000, which shall be for operation and maintenance:
Provided, That each amount in this paragraph is designated as
being for the global war on terrorism pursuant to section 301
of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th Congress).
Drug Interdiction and Counter-Drug Activities
For an additional amount for ``Drug Interdiction and
Counter-Drug Activities'', $469,458,000, to remain available
until September 30, 2013: Provided, That each amount in this
paragraph is designated as being for the global war on
terrorism pursuant to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th
Congress).
Joint Improvised Explosive Device Defeat Fund
(including transfer of funds)
For an additional amount for ``Joint Improvised Explosive
Device Defeat Fund'', $2,577,500,000, to remain available
until September 30, 2014: Provided, That such funds shall be
available to the Secretary of Defense, notwithstanding any
other provision of law, for the purpose of allowing the
Director of the Joint Improvised Explosive Device Defeat
Organization to investigate, develop and provide equipment,
supplies, services, training, facilities, personnel and funds
to assist United States forces in the defeat of improvised
explosive devices: Provided further, That the Secretary of
Defense may transfer funds provided herein to appropriations
for military personnel; operation and maintenance;
procurement; research, development, test and evaluation; and
defense working capital funds to accomplish the purpose
provided herein: Provided further, That this transfer
authority is in addition to any other transfer authority
available to the Department of Defense: Provided further,
That the Secretary of Defense shall, not fewer than 15 days
prior to making transfers from this appropriation, notify the
congressional defense committees in writing of the details of
any such transfer: Provided further, That each amount in this
paragraph is designated as being for the global war on
terrorism pursuant to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th
Congress).
Office of the Inspector General
For an additional amount for the ``Office of the Inspector
General'', $11,055,000: Provided, That each amount in this
paragraph is designated as being for the global war on
terrorism pursuant to section 301 of H. Con. Res. 34 (112th
Congress).
GENERAL PROVISIONS--THIS TITLE
Sec. 9001. Notwithstanding any other provision of law,
funds made available in this title are in addition to amounts
appropriated or otherwise made available for the Department
of Defense for 2012.
(including transfer of funds)
Sec. 9002. Upon the determination of the Secretary of
Defense that such action is necessary in the national
interest, the Secretary may, with the approval of the Office
of Management and Budget, transfer up to $3,000,000,000
between the appropriations or funds made available to the
Department of Defense in this title: Provided, That the
Secretary shall notify the Congress promptly of each transfer
made pursuant to the authority in this section: Provided
further, That the authority provided in this section is in
addition to any other transfer authority available to the
Department of Defense and is subject to the same terms and
conditions as the authority provided in the Department of
Defense Appropriations Act, 2012.
Sec. 9003. Supervision and administration costs associated
with a construction project funded with appropriations
available for operation and maintenance, ``Afghanistan
Infrastructure Fund'' or the ``Afghanistan Security Forces
Fund'' provided in this Act and executed in direct support of
overseas contingency operations in Afghanistan, may be
obligated at the time a construction contract is awarded:
Provided, That for the purpose of this section, supervision
and administration costs include all in-house Government
costs.
Sec. 9004. From funds made available in this title, the
Secretary of Defense may purchase for use by military and
civilian employees of the Department of Defense in the U. S.
Central Command area of responsibility: (a) passenger motor
vehicles up to a limit of $75,000 per vehicle and (b) heavy
and light armored vehicles for the physical security of
personnel or for force protection purposes up to a limit of
$250,000 per vehicle, notwithstanding price or other
limitations applicable to the purchase of passenger carrying
vehicles.
Sec. 9005. Not to exceed $400,000,000 of the amount
appropriated in this title under the heading ``Operation and
Maintenance, Army'' may be used, notwithstanding any other
provision of law, to fund the Commander's Emergency Response
Program (CERP), for the purpose of enabling military
commanders in Afghanistan to respond to urgent, small scale,
humanitarian relief and reconstruction requirements within
their areas of responsibility: Provided, That each project
(including any ancillary or related elements in connection
with such project) executed under this authority shall not
exceed $20,000,000: Provided further, That not later than 45
days after the end of each fiscal year quarter, the Secretary
of Defense shall submit to the congressional defense
committees a report regarding the source of funds and the
allocation and use of funds during that quarter that were
made available pursuant to the authority provided in this
section or under any other provision of law for the purposes
described herein: Provided further, That, not later than 30
days after the end of each month, the Army shall submit to
the congressional defense committees monthly commitment,
obligation, and expenditure data for the Commander's
Emergency Response Program in Afghanistan: Provided further,
That not less than 15 days before making funds available
pursuant to the authority provided in this section or under
any other provision of law for the purposes described herein
for a project with a total anticipated cost for completion of
$5,000,000 or more, the Secretary shall submit to the
congressional defense committees a written notice containing
each of the following:
(1) The location, nature and purpose of the proposed
project, including how the project is intended to advance the
military campaign plan for the country in which it is to be
carried out.
(2) The budget, implementation timeline with milestones,
and completion date for the proposed project, including any
other CERP funding that has been or is anticipated to be
contributed to the completion of the project.
(3) A plan for the sustainment of the proposed project,
including the agreement with either the host nation, a non-
Department of Defense agency of the United States Government
or a third party contributor to finance the sustainment of
the activities and maintenance of any equipment or facilities
to be provided through the proposed project.
Sec. 9006. Funds available to the Department of Defense
for operation and maintenance may be used, notwithstanding
any other provision of law, to provide supplies, services,
transportation, including airlift and sealift, and other
logistical support to coalition forces supporting military
and stability operations in Iraq and Afghanistan: Provided,
That the Secretary of Defense shall provide quarterly reports
to the congressional defense committees regarding support
provided under this section.
Sec. 9007. None of the funds appropriated or otherwise
made available by this or any other Act shall be obligated or
expended by the United States Government for a purpose as
follows:
(1) To establish any military installation or base for the
purpose of providing for the permanent stationing of United
States Armed Forces in Iraq.
(2) To exercise United States control over any oil resource
of Iraq.
(3) To establish any military installation or base for the
purpose of providing for the permanent stationing of United
States Armed Forces in Afghanistan.
Sec. 9008. None of the funds made available in this Act
may be used in contravention of the following laws enacted or
regulations promulgated to implement the United Nations
Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or
Degrading Treatment or Punishment (done at New York on
December 10, 1984):
(1) Section 2340A of title 18, United States Code.
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(2) Section 2242 of the Foreign Affairs Reform and
Restructuring Act of 1998 (division G of Public Law 105-277;
112 Stat. 2681-822; 8 U.S.C. 1231 note) and regulations
prescribed thereto, including regulations under part 208 of
title 8, Code of Federal Regulations, and part 95 of title
22, Code of Federal Regulations.
(3) Sections 1002 and 1003 of the Department of Defense,
Emergency Supplemental Appropriations to Address Hurricanes
in the Gulf of Mexico, and Pandemic Influenza Act, 2006
(Public Law 109-148).
Sec. 9009. (a) The Secretary of Defense shall submit to the
congressional defense committees not later than 45 days after
the end of each fiscal quarter a report on the proposed use
of all funds appropriated by this or any prior Act under each
of the headings Afghanistan Security Forces Fund, Afghanistan
Infrastructure Fund, and Pakistan Counterinsurgency Fund on a
project-by-project basis, for which the obligation of funds
is anticipated during the 3-month period from such date,
including estimates for the accounts referred to in this
section of the costs required to complete each such project.
(b) The report required by this subsection shall include
the following:
(1) The use of all funds on a project-by-project basis for
which funds appropriated under the headings referred to in
subsection (a) were obligated prior to the submission of the
report, including estimates for the accounts referred to in
subsection (a) of the costs to complete each project.
(2) The use of all funds on a project-by-project basis for
which funds were appropriated under the headings referred to
in subsection (a) in prior appropriations Acts, or for which
funds were made available by transfer, reprogramming, or
allocation from other headings in prior appropriations Acts,
including estimates for the accounts referred to in
subsection (a) of the costs to complete each project.
(3) An estimated total cost to train and equip the
Afghanistan and Pakistan security forces, disaggregated by
major program and sub-elements by force, arrayed by fiscal
year.
Sec. 9010. (a) Funding for Outreach and Reintegration
Services Under Yellow Ribbon Reintegration Program.--Of the
amounts appropriated or otherwise made available by title IX,
up to $20,000,000 may be available for outreach and
reintegration services under the Yellow Ribbon Reintegration
Program under section 582(h) of the National Defense
Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 (Public Law 110-181;
122 Stat. 125; 10 U.S.C. 10101 note).
(b) Supplement Not Supplant.--The amount made available by
subsection (a) for the services described in that subsection
is in addition to any other amounts available in this Act for
such services.
Sec. 9011. Funds made available in this title to the
Department of Defense for operation and maintenance may be
used to purchase items having an investment unit cost of not
more than $250,000: Provided, That, upon determination by the
Secretary of Defense that such action is necessary to meet
the operational requirements of a Commander of a Combatant
Command engaged in contingency operations overseas, such
funds may be used to purchase items having an investment item
unit cost of not more than $500,000.
Sec. 9012. (a) The Task Force for Business and Stability
Operations in Afghanistan may, subject to the direction and
control of the Secretary of Defense and with the concurrence
of the Secretary of State, carry out projects in fiscal year
2012 to assist the commander of the United States Central
Command in developing a link between United States military
operations in Afghanistan under Operation Enduring Freedom
and the economic elements of United States national power in
order to reduce violence, enhance stability, and restore
economic normalcy in Afghanistan through strategic business
and economic opportunities.
(b) The projects carried out under paragraph (a) may
include projects that facilitate private investment,
industrial development, banking and financial system
development, agricultural diversification and revitalization,
and energy development in and with respect to Afghanistan.
(c) The Secretary may use up to $150,000,000 of the funds
available for overseas contingency operations in ``Operation
and Maintenance, Army'' for additional activities to carry
out projects under paragraph (a).
Sec. 9013. From funds made available in this title to the
Department of Defense for operation and maintenance, up to
$524,000,000 may be used by the Secretary of Defense,
notwithstanding any other provision of law, to support the
United States Government transition activities in Iraq by
undertaking facilities renovation and construction associated
with establishing Office of Security Cooperation locations,
at no more than ten sites, in Iraq: Provided, That not less
than 15 days before making funds available pursuant to the
authority provided in this section, the Secretary shall
submit to the congressional defense committees a written
notice containing a detailed justification and timeline for
each proposed site and the source of funds.
Sec. 9014. (a) Not more than 85 percent of the funds
provided in this title for operation and maintenance may be
available for obligation or expenditure until the date on
which the Secretary of Defense submits the report under
subsection (b).
(b) Not later than 120 days after the date of the enactment
of this Act, the Secretary of Defense shall submit to the
congressional defense committees a report on contractor
employees in the United States Central Command, including--
(1) the number of employees of a contractor awarded a
contract by the Department of Defense (including
subcontractor employees) who are employed at the time of the
report in the area of operations of the United States Central
Command, including a list of the number of such employees in
each of Iraq, Afghanistan, and all other areas of operations
of the United States Central Command; and
(2) for each fiscal year quarter beginning on the date of
the report and ending on September 30, 2012--
(A) the number of such employees planned by the Secretary
to be employed during each such period in each of Iraq,
Afghanistan, and all other areas of operations of the United
States Central Command; and
(B) an explanation of how the number of such employees
listed under subparagraph (A) relates to the planned number
of military personnel in such locations.
Sec. 9015. Of the amounts appropriated or transferred to
the Pakistan Counterinsurgency Fund (hereafter in this
subsection referred to as the `Fund') for any fiscal year
after fiscal year 2011--
(1) not more than 25 percent of such amounts may be
obligated or expended until such time as the Secretary of
Defense, with the concurrence of the Secretary of State--
(A) submits to the appropriate congressional committees a
report on the strategy to utilize the Fund and the metrics
used to determine progress with respect to the Fund; and
(B) notifies the appropriate congressional committees of
the intent of the Secretary to obligate or expend amounts
that are in excess of such 25 percent and a period of 30 days
has elapsed following such notification.
(2) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, none of the
amounts described in the matter preceding paragraph (1) shall
be available for reprogramming.
(3) Such report shall include, at a minimum, the following:
(A) A discussion of United States strategic objectives in
Pakistan.
(B) A listing of the terrorist or extremist organizations
in Pakistan opposing United States goals in the region and
against which the United States encourages Pakistan to take
action.
(C) A discussion of the gaps in capabilities of Pakistani
security units that hamper the ability of the Government of
Pakistan to take action against the organizations listed in
subparagraph (B).
(D) A discussion of how assistance provided utilizing the
Fund will address the gaps in capabilities listed in
subparagraph (C).
(E) A discussion of other efforts undertaken by other
United States Government departments and agencies to address
the gaps in capabilities listed in subparagraph (C) or
complementary activities of the Department of Defense and how
those efforts are coordinated with the activities undertaken
to utilize the Fund.
(F) Metrics that will be used to track progress in
achieving the United States strategic objectives in Pakistan,
to track progress of the Government of Pakistan in combating
the organizations listed in subparagraph (B), and to address
the gaps in capabilities listed in subparagraph (C).
Sec. 9016. (a) Not to exceed $176,575,000 from amounts made
available to the Department of Defense in this Act or any
other Act for fiscal year 2012 may be obligated for
information operations or military information support
operations: Provided, That such amount is to be derived from
the amounts provided in title IX of this Act for the
following accounts in this title as follows:
``Operations and Maintenance, Army'', $104,675,000;
``Operations and Maintenance, Navy'', $1,200,000;
``Operations and Maintenance, Air Force'', $20,400,000; and
``Operations and Maintenance, Defense Wide'', $50,300,000.
(b) Such amounts are to be allocated only in accordance
with the direction and for the purposes specified in the
classified annex accompanying this Act.
(rescissions)
Sec. 9017. Of the funds appropriated in Department of
Defense Appropriations Acts, the following funds are hereby
rescinded from the following account in the specified amount:
``Mine Resistant Ambush Protection Vehicle Fund'', 2011/
2013, $595,000,000.
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Mr. FRELINGHUYSEN (during the reading). Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous
consent that the remainder of the bill through page 161, line 4, be
considered as read, printed in the Record, and open to amendment at any
point.
The Acting CHAIR. Is there objection to the request of the gentleman
from New Jersey?
There was no objection.
The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will read.
The Clerk read as follows:
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TITLE X--ADDITIONAL GENERAL PROVISIONS
spending reduction account
Sec. 10001. The amount by which the applicable allocation
of new budget authority made by the Committee on
Appropriations of the House of Representatives under section
302(b) of the Congressional Budget Act of 1974 exceeds the
amount of proposed new budget authority is $0.
Amendment Offered by Ms. McCollum
Ms. McCOLLUM. I have an amendment at the desk.
The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will report the amendment.
The Clerk read as follows:
At the end of the bill (before the short title), insert the
following:
Sec. __. The total amount of appropriations made available
by this Act is hereby reduced by $124,800,000.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentlewoman from Minnesota is recognized for 5
minutes.
Ms. McCOLLUM. Mr. Chairman, this amendment is simple. It cuts $124.8
million from the overall bill. For my colleagues who say they are
committed to deficit reduction, this is your chance to prove it.
This amendment reduces government spending while protecting the
Pentagon's national security mission by reducing the funding for
military bands to the authorized level. Currently this bill and the
Pentagon's budget includes a total of $324.8 million for 154 military
bands and more than 5,000 full-time professional military musicians.
This amendment would reduce the total funding for military bands to
$200 million. The limit set for spending on military bands included a
voice vote in the 2012 defense authorization bill, H.R. 1540.
Let me be clear: This amendment brings the defense appropriations
bill in line with the spending on military bands established in the
defense authorization bill. Again, the House is already on record
voting to limit spending on military bands to $200 million.
Earlier, in debate on this bill, Representative Carter of Texas had
an amendment that struck the language that I had inserted in the
defense appropriations bill that would limit the military bands to $200
million. This amendment was agreed to on voice vote.
I do not believe that the majority of Republicans and Democrats in
this House want to be on record adding, adding over $124 million in
spending for military bands.
This amendment gives all of my colleagues the opportunity to reduce
the cost to government by cutting $124 million from this bill, while
allowing the Pentagon to continue to spend $200 million for choirs,
jazz bands, ensembles, and other musical missions.
There is no doubt that bands are important. We all enjoy listening to
military bands and cherish the traditions of military music. But at a
time of fiscal crisis, $200 million must be enough for ceremonial
music, concerts, choir performance, and country music jam sessions.
Maybe you believe that spending $325 million in 2012 is in our
national security interests, a national priority that cannot even be
cut or reduced.
Well, I couldn't disagree more. There are really Members in this
House who in good conscience vote to cut nutrition for programs for
poor, hungry women and infants, but vote to protect a military bands
budgets? Is this House really capable of gutting investments on women's
health care, but allow $5 million increases in funding for military
bands?
Republicans are forcing cuts in law enforcement, firefighters,
homeless veterans, but they take a stand opposing limiting funding for
military bands to $200 million as a national security priority. Is this
Congress really going to raise the debt ceiling so it can pay $325
million for military bands next year with money borrowed from China?
These are truly misplaced priorities.
Mr. Chairman, this Congress faces record deficits, and it's time for
both smart investments and tough choices. In this $650 billion defense
appropriations bill, this amendment proposes an extremely modest test
of this House's willingness to cut spending for nonessential military
functions.
Last year the Army Materiel commander had a $4.4 million state of the
art building especially constructed for the Army Materiel Command Band.
While schools, health care centers and food banks are getting cut, $4.4
million is an example that seems to indicate to me that no one told the
Pentagon that this is a fiscal crisis.
The Pentagon does not need any more band aid.
Mr. Carter argued against reducing spending on military bands, saying
the language didn't save 1 cent, and he was correct. This amendment
saves U.S. taxpayers $124.8 million, and that makes a lot of sense to
the Minnesotans I represent. And it should make a lot of sense to my
tea party Republican colleagues who march to their own drummers.
This amendment gives all my colleagues, Republicans and Democrats, a
chance to show our constituents a deficit reduction. I urge my
colleagues to support this reduction to unnecessary defense spending.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. FRELINGHUYSEN. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman from New Jersey is recognized for 5
minutes.
Mr. FRELINGHUYSEN. Mr. Chairman, the gentlewoman's amendment would
essentially cap funding for military bands at $200 million and reverse
a decision of the body earlier this evening.
The band's main mission is music, with a secondary wartime mission
for security. Band members train for security, and given the shortage
of guards, security is often the band members' go-to-war mission. Every
soldier is taught their basic combat skills and can secure the
perimeter.
The Department of Defense strongly believes that military bands are
vital to recruiting, retaining, and community relations, and that they
provide patriotic, inspirational music to instill in soldiers, sailors,
and airmen the will to fight and win, and foster the support of our
citizens and promote national interests.
Mr. Chairman, I oppose the amendment and urge others to oppose it.
I yield back the balance of my time.
The Acting CHAIR. The question is on the amendment offered by the
gentlewoman from Minnesota (Ms. McCollum).
The question was taken; and the Acting Chair announced that the noes
appeared to have it.
Ms. McCOLLUM. Mr. Chairman, I demand a recorded vote.
The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to clause 6 of rule XVIII, further
proceedings on the amendment offered by the gentlewoman from Minnesota
will be postponed.
Amendment Offered by Ms. McCollum
Ms. McCOLLUM. Mr. Chairman, I have two amendments left, and this one
will deal with the subject of NASCAR.
The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will report the amendment.
The Clerk read as follows:
At the end of the bill, before the short title, add the
following new section:
Sec. ___. Not more than $20,000,000 of the funds made
available by this Act may be used to pay motorsports drivers,
racing teams, or racing cars in the National Association for
Stock Car Auto Racing (NASCAR), the National Hot Rod
Association (NHRA), the Indy Racing League Indy Car Series,
or the American Motorcyclist Association (AMA) Super Bike
Racing or otherwise conduct recruiting outreach through motor
sports under the authority of section 561(b) of the Floyd D.
Spence National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year
2001 (as enacted into law by Public Law 106-398; 114 Stat.
1654A-129).
The Acting CHAIR. The gentlewoman from Minnesota is recognized for 5
minutes.
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Ms. McCOLLUM. Mr. Chairman, my amendment requires the Department of
Defense to limit what they spend on motorsports sponsorships for
NASCAR, the National Hot Rod Association, the Indy Car Series, or AMA
Super Bike Racing to no more than $20 million in fiscal year 2012. With
our Nation in a fiscal crisis, I can't imagine anyone wanting to spend
more than $20 million for taxpayer-funded racing teams.
As Members of Congress, we must make choices with what to do with
America's taxpayer money. Congress needs to set priorities that will
reduce the deficit and grow our economy.
This year, the Department of Defense will spend at least $63 million
in taxpayer funds to sponsor motorsports for so-called recruitment
purposes. In the last decade, hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars
have been spent to sponsor motorsports racing.
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And what do the American people get for their investment? Those
millions of tax dollars buy decals--big stickers--on race cars. They
pay for multimillion dollar race contracts for millionaire race car
drivers and racing team owners. For example, the National Guard is
currently spending $20 million in taxpayers' funds to sponsor one race
car driver, $20 million, one race car driver.
At a time when our Nation is fighting two wars and facing a fiscal
crisis, why are we borrowing money from China, Russia, and Saudi Arabia
to pay for sponsorships and millionaire car drivers? How does that
advance national security?
Now, many of my colleagues insist that these sponsorships are
critical to the survival of an all-volunteer military. I disagree. But
I respect their passion despite the fact there is no evidence to
demonstrate that this motorsports program is effective in recruiting.
And that is why my amendment maintains a significant and sufficient
investment in motorsports sponsorships, $20 million, to allow the
Pentagon to demonstrate to us and to the taxpayers it does work.
Now as Members of Congress, we must do a better job of exercising our
oversight over the Pentagon's recruiting budget. Right now, 75 percent
of Americans ages 17 to 24 years old are not qualified--let me repeat--
75 percent of young Americans ages 17-24 years old are not qualified to
serve in the Armed Forces.
Motorsports sponsorships are not the answer to making America's youth
more physically fit or more academically prepared to serve. And
according to a 2010 report by a retired military leader entitled ``Too
Fat to Fight,'' the U.S. military faces serious long-term recruiting
challenges.
Let me quote the report directly. When weight problems are combined
with educational deficits, criminal records, and other disqualifiers
such as asthma or drug abuse, 75 percent of Americans 17-24 years old
are unable to join the military for one or more of those reasons. The
military will have to have more fit young men and women if they are
going to find enough recruits with the excellent qualifications needed
for a modern military.
But we're not talking about $63 million to sponsor academic
decathlons, soccer leagues, or baseball teams.
With these alarming trends facing America's young people, the
Pentagon needs to be leading a national effort to ensure young people
around this country from coast to coast are educationally prepared,
physically fit, morally sound, and dedicated to serving our country.
Those young men and women aren't just found at racetracks. Yet that is
where our branches of military are spending disproportionate amounts of
recruiting budgets on an increasingly small number of recruiting
targets.
Here is an example of a motorsport's recruiting power. In 2010, the
National Guard spent $645,000 to sponsor one single NASCAR race, the
Air Guard 400. According to the Air National Guard, that $650,000
sponsorship generated 439 recruits. Only six of those leads were
qualified leads or recruited eligible.
How many enlistments for $650,000? Zero. Zero enlistments, zero
contracts signed. Other branches of the Armed Forces have found these
sponsorships to be a waste. The Marine Corps, Coast Guard, and Navy
have all canceled their motorsports sponsorships years ago, shifting
their valuable recruitment dollars to more effective programs.
I respect the patriotism and passion of motorsports fans. I do. And I
encourage the U.S. military to continue its longstanding relationship
with motorsports like NASCAR. This amendment does nothing to the
additional $8 million the Army spends on outreach to NASCAR racing
events or the millions spent on military recruitment at races. But we
are wasting taxpayers' dollars on race cars and millionaire drivers
with little or nothing to show from it.
I've heard from supporters of racing sponsorships talk about the
passion points and media impressions these sponsorship dollars produce
among television viewers. Really? Americans don't know that there is an
Army or an Air Force, or the American people don't know that we are at
war in Iraq and Afghanistan? They don't need a racing car to tell them
that we have a volunteer military and our country is at war.
Already this year, the Republican Congress has voted to cut nutrition
programs for poor, hungry women and infants. And this majority is
cutting investments in energy efficiency at a time of high gas prices.
I urge my colleagues to support this amendment and to limit the
sponsorship of motor racing to $20 million.
Mr. YOUNG of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the
amendment.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman is recognized for 5 minutes.
Mr. YOUNG of Florida. I compliment the gentlelady for her
determination. She has really worked this amendment hard on more than
one occasion. The House has already spoken on this issue. When we
considered earlier H.R. 1, this amendment was defeated by more than 100
votes, 448-281.
But this is a recruiting tool. I don't think any of us want to go
back to a draft. I think we like the fact that we have an all-volunteer
service. But if you feel an all-volunteer service means you have got to
recruit, then you use more than just NASCAR or sporting events or
advertising in newspapers to gain recruits so that we can have an all-
volunteer military, as opposed to a conscripted, drafted military.
The Army National Guard estimated that it engaged more than 83,000
prospects in the year 2010. The Air Force reports that their NASCAR
sponsorship is the second-highest source of accessions of all event
sports sponsorships. The Army expects that they will, this year, engage
28,700 prospects and gain access to 182 schools through its sponsorship
of NASCAR.
Now, the gentlelady, as I said, is persistent. She uses the occasion
to mention the fact that the Marine Corps does not use sporting, does
not use NASCAR for recruiting. Which is true. But that is not a reason
why we should discontinue the program. The Navy and the Marine Corps do
not sponsor motorsports, NASCAR. But they both use the sponsorship of
sporting events as part of their recruiting programs. The Navy is a
sponsor of the X Games, while the Marine Corps sponsors a variety of
events, including the Ultimate Fighting Championship.
The fact of the matter is we spend a lot of money for recruiting, and
the recruiting for our programs that are successful ought to be
continued and should not be denied for whatever the reason that someone
objects to using the money for sponsoring race car vehicles.
The National car took seventh place, by the way, in Daytona this past
weekend. And not only do we get the sponsorship, the excitement of the
crowds and many of whom go to the recruiting stations, but we get
newspaper coverage for free, we get television coverage for free,
coverage that we don't have to pay for because of these events that we
do sponsor.
So, as we did in the Appropriations Committee, and as we did on H.R.
1 earlier in this year, I just hope that we will, once again, defeat
this amendment, and I rise in opposition to this amendment.
I yield back the balance of my time.
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The Acting CHAIR. The question is on the amendment offered by the
gentlewoman from Minnesota (Ms. McCollum).
The question was taken; and the Acting Chair announced that the noes
appeared to have it.
Ms. McCOLLUM. Mr. Chairman, I demand a recorded vote.
The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to clause 6 of rule XVIII, further
proceedings on the amendment offered by the gentlewoman from Minnesota
will be postponed.
Amendment Offered by Ms. McCollum
Ms. McCOLLUM. Mr. Chairman, I have an amendment at the desk.
The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will report the amendment.
The Clerk read as follows:
At the end of the bill (before the short title), insert the
following:
Sec. __. None of the funds made available by this Act may
be provided to the Task Force for Business and Stability
Operations in Afghanistan or used to carry out section 9012.
Ms. McCOLLUM (during the reading). Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous
consent to dispense with the reading.
The Acting CHAIR. Is there objection to the request of the
gentlewoman from Minnesota?
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There was no objection.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentlewoman from Minnesota is recognized for 5
minutes.
Ms. McCOLLUM. Mr. Chairman, Section 9012 of this Defense
appropriations bill contains language authorizing the Pentagon, under
the direction and control of the Secretary of Defense, to operate a
task force for business and stability operations in Afghanistan.
The bill provides $150 million to the Secretary of Defense to operate
this business task force. Our brave military men and women have been in
Afghanistan for 10 long years confronting the Taliban, killing
terrorists, and helping secure a better future for the Afghan people.
When in the course of this long war did it become the Department of
Defense's role to facilitate business opportunities for Afghan and
foreign companies?
Is it really within the Pentagon's expertise or mission to excel at
business development, farming, or mineral exploration?
This bill gives the Department of Defense authorization to carry out
``projects that include private investment, industrial development,
banking and financial system development, agricultural diversification
and revitalization, energy development in and with respect to
Afghanistan.''
Afghanistan is an active war zone.
American servicemembers are under attack and our Department of
Defense should be solely focused on their security. The Pentagon's
focus should not be on starting up businesses or facilitating business
development tours for corporate CEOs. Economic development is an
important part of America's overall strategy in Afghanistan, but that
is the role of civilian agencies like USAID, the Department of State,
or the Department of Commerce.
Congress needs to invest in America's civilian capacity to carry out
this function. Unfortunately, the Republican leadership in this House
does not believe international development activities are a component
of national security. If they did, they would not cut vital foreign
assistance capacity and programs.
Every House Member needs to ask why the Pentagon is supporting the
development of the Afghan carpet industry while U.S. soldiers are under
attack. Afghan carpets should not be a strategic priority for the
Department of Defense.
Every House Member needs to ask why the Department of Defense is
helping Kate Spade, an exclusive New York handbag designer, to source
raw materials in Afghanistan? Since when did the Pentagon invest
taxpayer dollars in promoting women's fashion?
The Deputy Under Secretary of Defense described his role in heading
up the task force in The Washington Post: ``We do capitalism. We're
about helping companies make money.''
Colleagues, helping companies make money is not the role of the
Department of Defense. This is the worst example of mission creep. It
is up to Congress to perform its oversight duty and rein in the
Pentagon.
Getting people to work in Afghanistan is important. Afghans who are
working on farms, in factories, in functioning government ministries,
and in the police and military are likely not shooting at our troops.
But this report that accompanied the Defense authorization bill that
passed in May said it best, and I quote from the Defense authorization
bill: ``The function of private sector business development falls
outside of the core competency of the Department of Defense.''
The House Armed Services Committee's report went on to further state:
``The mission of TFBSO should eventually fall under the jurisdiction of
a different agency, likely USAID or possibly the Department of
Commerce.''
The Task Force for Business and Stability Operations in Afghanistan
and its $150 million budget should not be funded and not authorized in
the Defense authorizations bill. This function and this money belongs
in the State and Foreign Operations appropriations bill.
This task force is another example of the militarization of foreign
assistance that diverts the Pentagon from its core mission of security
and war fighting. It also dangerously blurs the line between military-
affiliated personnel in a war zone and civilian personnel carrying out
development activities.
America needs the Department of Defense to take care of its top
priority: ensuring the national security of our country. We all know
there will be fewer and fewer military personnel in Afghanistan in the
coming months. Troops stationed in Afghanistan will be in increasing
danger. We must allow those troops to focus on their security mission.
If the Secretary of Defense truly believes business development and
the work of the task force is vital to national security, then the
Pentagon can contract with professionals at USAID to carry out this
function.
I urge my colleagues to support this amendment and get the business
development and cooperative investment support out of the Pentagon.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. YOUNG of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to this
amendment.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman is recognized for 5 minutes.
Mr. YOUNG of Florida. Mr. Chairman, some years ago, the Americans and
our allies pretty much stabilized Afghanistan and neutralized the
Taliban. But then before the job was completed, we all walked away. The
Taliban resurged, came back, and created the situation that we face
today and yesteryear and the year before. Let's not let that happen
again.
Now this Task Force for Business and Stability is part of that
operation to try to maintain stability once we clear out and neutralize
the Taliban once again. The mission of the task force is to assist the
commander of U.S. Central Command in developing a link between U.S.
military operations in Afghanistan and economic elements of U.S.
national power in order to reduce violence, enhance stability, and to
restore economic normalcy in Afghanistan through business and economic
opportunities such as agricultural diversification and energy
development.
The Secretary may use up to $150 million of available operations for
overseas contingency operations. This amendment would prohibit that.
This amendment would not permit us to do the things that we need to do
after winning on the battlefield. After eliminating the combat areas,
we have got to maintain an Afghanistan that is not any longer under the
jurisdiction and the influence of the Taliban.
As I said, we did that once before at great cost. We neutralized the
Taliban. We basically stabilized Afghanistan, and then we walked away.
We didn't do the things that this Business and Stability Operations
Task Force would do.
So let's do them this time so we don't have to go back and refight
the war against the Taliban in Afghanistan. It is not a good amendment.
It is not a good amendment, and I rise in opposition to the amendment.
Mr. DICKS. Will the gentleman yield?
Mr. YOUNG of Florida. I yield to the gentleman from Washington.
Mr. DICKS. I agree with the gentleman on this particular amendment. I
think we should vote it down.
Mr. YOUNG of Florida. I yield back the balance of my time.
The Acting CHAIR. The question is on the amendment offered by the
gentlewoman from Minnesota (Ms. McCollum).
The amendment was rejected.
Amendment No. 43 Offered by Mr. Holt
Mr. HOLT. I have an amendment at the desk.
The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will designate the amendment.
The text of the amendment is as follows:
At the end of the bill (before the short title), insert
the following:
Sec. __. None of the funds made available by this Act
may be used to close the defense commissary store at Fort
Monmouth, New Jersey.
The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman from New Jersey is recognized for 5
minutes.
Mr. HOLT. Mr. Chairman, over 19,000 people in New Jersey depend on
the goods and services provided by the commissary at Fort Monmouth. The
looming closure of Fort Monmouth has cast a cloud over the future of
this facility, causing considerable consternation among the active
duty, Guard and Reserve, and military retirees who count on the
commissary to help them save money and live their quality lives that we
have promised them.
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In February 2011, the Secretary of the Army recognized the importance
of this facility and recommended to the Pentagon leadership that the
facility remain open. Department regulations give the Pentagon the
ability to decide whether to keep the commissary open after a base
closes.
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I should point out that the active personnel at Naval Weapons Station
Earle, which does not have a commissary, depend on this commissary as
well. We in New Jersey, in the New Jersey delegation, strongly agree
with Secretary McHugh's recommendation, which is currently under
consideration in the Pentagon.
The amendment I am offering, but will withdraw pursuant to a
discussion, a colloquy with my colleagues, would bar the use of fiscal
12 funds to close the commissary.
At this time, I yield to the gentleman from Washington (Mr. Dicks),
the ranking member.
Mr. DICKS. I can completely understand the gentleman's concern here.
I want the gentleman to know that I am prepared to work with him on
this to see if we can talk to the powers that be over in the Pentagon.
Hopefully, they can accept Secretary McHugh's recommendation.
Mr. YOUNG of Florida. Will the gentleman yield?
Mr. HOLT. I am pleased to yield to the gentleman from Florida.
Mr. YOUNG of Florida. I thank the gentleman for yielding.
Let me say that I agree with Mr. Dicks. We are more than happy to
work with you in order to work out this problem.
Mr. HOLT. I thank both gentlemen. This means a great deal to the
people of New Jersey, to whom we owe a great deal for their military
work.
Secretary of the Army,
Washington, DC, February 25, 2011.
Hon. Rush Holt,
U.S. House of Representatives, Washington, DC.
Dear Representative Holt: Thank you for your August 17,
2010 letter concerning the closure of the commissary and post
exchange on Fort Monmouth, New Jersey.
As we have discussed, the post exchange stores at Fort
Monmouth must close in preparation for the closure of Fort
Monmouth. However, I have directed the Assistant Secretary of
the Army for Installations, Energy and Environment to send an
official request to the Under Secretary of Defense for
Personnel and Readiness [USD(P&R)] to keep the Fort Monmouth
commissary open for a transitional 2-year period following
installation closure.
If USD(P&R) approves this request, the continued operation
of the commissary for this 2-year period will be conditional
on a volume of sales that supports operational costs. Defense
Commissary Agency's (DeCA) projections indicate annual sales
of $9.2M in the year following closure. DeCA will continue to
review sales and cost data and will advise the Army if sales
decline significantly.
Thank you for your inquiry into this matter and for your
continued support of our Soldiers and their Families.
Sincerely,
John M. McHugh.
With that understanding, Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent to
withdraw my amendment.
The Acting CHAIR. Without objection, the amendment is withdrawn.
There was no objection.
Mr. YOUNG of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I move that the Committee do now
rise.
The motion was agreed to.
Accordingly, the Committee rose; and the Speaker pro tempore (Mr.
Frelinghuysen) having assumed the chair, Mr. Gardner, Acting Chair of
the Committee of the Whole House on the state of the Union, reported
that that Committee, having had under consideration the bill (H.R.
2219) making appropriations for the Department of Defense for the
fiscal year ending September 30, 2012, and for other purposes, had come
to no resolution thereon.
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