[Congressional Record Volume 157, Number 76 (Tuesday, May 31, 2011)]
[House]
[Pages H3765-H3775]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
INCREASING STATUTORY LIMIT ON THE PUBLIC DEBT
Mr. CAMP. Mr. Speaker, I move to suspend the rules and pass the bill
(H.R. 1954) to implement the President's request to increase the
statutory limit on the public debt.
The Clerk read the title of the bill.
The text of the bill is as follows:
H.R. 1954
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of
the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. FINDING.
The Congress finds that the President's budget proposal,
Budget of the United States Government, Fiscal Year 2012,
necessitates an increase in the statutory debt limit of
$2,406,000,000,000.
SEC. 2. INCREASE IN STATUTORY LIMIT ON THE PUBLIC DEBT.
Subsection (b) of section 3101 of title 31, United States
Code, is amended by striking
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out the dollar limitation contained in such subsection and
inserting in lieu thereof ``$16,700,000,000,000''.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to the rule, the gentleman from
Michigan (Mr. Camp) and the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Levin) each
will control 20 minutes.
The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Camp).
Mr. CAMP. I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, last December, the President's own Fiscal Commission
offered a plan to rein in our budget deficits and debt. While I did not
support the final package--especially the tax increases it proposed--it
did contain several meaningful suggestions for ways to get our Federal
spending under control. Yet last February, when the President submitted
his budget for 2012, he ignored their advice and provided no plan to
rein in deficits and debt. Last month, Standard and Poor's downgraded
the outlook for the U.S. credit rating because Washington appeared to
have no plan to rein in our budget deficits and debt.
In recent weeks, many congressional Democrats were proving them right
when over 100 of them called for an unconditional increase in the U.S.
debt limit. They signed a letter calling on their colleagues to
establish ``the Democratic position in favor of a clean extension of
the debt ceiling,'' something Secretary Geithner has also repeatedly
called for.
It's time to come clean with the American people about our deficits
and debt. At over $14 trillion, our debt is as large as the entire U.S.
economy and is putting the American Dream at risk for future
generations. It has become an anchor on economic growth, costing us 1
million jobs at a time when the unemployment rate has not been this
high for this long since the Great Depression.
Erskine Bowles, who chaired President Obama's Fiscal Commission and
served as Chief of Staff to President Clinton, has said that the era of
debt denial is over. While it doesn't appear that all of his Democrat
colleagues have gotten the message, with today's vote this House will
declare to the American people and to the credit rating agencies that
business as usual in Washington is over. Not only is the era of debt
denial over, but so is Washington's out-of-control spending.
Today, we are making clear that Republicans will not accept an
increase in our Nation's debt limit without substantial spending cuts
and real budgetary reforms. This vote, a vote based on legislation I
have introduced, will and must fail. Now, most Members aren't happy
when they bring a bill to the floor and it fails, but I consider
defeating an unconditional increase to be a success because it sends a
clear and critical message that the Congress has finally recognized we
must immediately begin to rein in America's affection for deficit
spending.
Research by international experts clearly demonstrates that spending
reforms, not tax increases, are the most effective path to fiscal
consolidation. That means that together we must look for responsible
ways to tackle our runaway spending. And though it's difficult and not
always popular, it requires us to deal with entitlement reforms that
are the largest driver of America's deficits, including health care
spending programs like Medicare.
We all know that failing to act and address our debt head-on would be
very similar to defaulting on our debt. In both cases, we would
experience a significant downgrade in our credit rating, which
increases interest rates, making payments for things like a car and
home loans more expensive. It would also increase the cost of imports,
meaning higher gas prices. And it would make an already shaky economy
even worse, leading to less job creation.
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The greatest threat to the U.S. economy and to international
financial markets would be simply increasing the debt limit without
cutting a penny of spending. This vote makes clear that deficit
reduction will be part of any bill to increase the debt limit and is a
necessary part of this process.
A ``no'' vote today is a vote to put us on the path toward exactly
what the markets and the American people are demanding, an America that
is a strong, reliable, and secure financial investment for the future.
I urge all my colleagues to vote ``no'' on this unconditional increase.
I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. LEVIN. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 1 minute.
Bringing up this bill in this fashion is a ploy so egregious the
Republicans have had to spend the last week pleading with Wall Street
not to take it seriously and risk our economic recovery.
If Republicans were being truthful, they'd admit they're looking for
political cover. But in their doing so, they risk blowing a hole in our
Nation's economy. They'd acknowledged that their timing is an effort to
change the subject less than a week after their plan to end Medicare
was dealt a major setback by voters in a New York special election
whose democratic winner will be sworn in tomorrow.
To act in good faith to solve our Nation's fiscal problems, the
Republicans should focus not on this ploy but on the budget
negotiations being led by the Vice President. Our Nation's debt is
indeed a problem that requires serious solutions--not ploys that risk
another global financial crisis.
I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. CAMP. I continue to reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. LEVIN. I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from New Jersey
(Mr. Pascrell), a member of our committee.
Mr. PASCRELL. Mr. Speaker, we better not forget how we got here in
the first place. The President, when he raised his hand in January of
2009, inherited a $10.6 trillion debt. Let us not forget history. I
know this is like a Kabuki dance today.
You're not only not sincere about this, but this is all process. The
American people, the folks in my district, are not interested in
process. They're interested in results. What are the results? How does
this help the guy or gal on Main Street? That's what we should be
talking about.
This bill we know is going to fail. You already told your Wall Street
friends, ``Don't worry about it. Don't take it serious.'' That's just
like a reality show. The Republicans have warned their Wall Street
friends, and as The Wall Street Journal said today, they are in on this
``joke.'' But as in poker, they're not all in.
Alexander Hamilton, who founded my city of Paterson, New Jersey,
understood that good credit is integral to being a world power. It is
by no means a joke.
Failure to act will have immediate and dire consequences. Now, the
world is not going to collapse this afternoon or tomorrow when this
legislation goes down in a few hours. The majority is willing to risk
all of that in order to play political games to force their failed
economic policies. It didn't work in the last 10 years. It's not going
to work now.
Mr. Speaker, this is serious business. This is not a joke.
Mr. CAMP. I continue to reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. LEVIN. I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to another member of the Ways and
Means Committee, Mr. Blumenauer of Oregon.
Mr. BLUMENAUER. There's no more important agenda item currently
facing Congress than ensuring America pays its bills and honors its
obligations. The accumulated choices of Congresses and administrations,
past and present, have created the debt and the need to honor the
obligations--like an unfunded war in Iraq that's going to cost
trillions of dollars, or an unfunded Medicare prescription drug program
both from our Republican friends.
We're not going to default on our debt. With over a hundred of my
colleagues, I signed a letter calling for a clean extension and
offering to work with the Republican leadership so they wouldn't be
held hostage to the most extreme members of their party in order to
push through draconian proposals that have no chance of being passed,
which would unsettle the markets and do damage to things that Americans
care about, like the reckless proposal for ending the Medicaid
guarantee to seniors and additional tax cuts that are unaffordable.
Unfortunately, the Republican leadership decided not to treat this
seriously. They're bringing a bill to the floor which they're not
supporting.
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They put it on the suspension calendar so it had no chance of passage,
and they think somehow this is constructive. Well, it's not.
Mr. Speaker, it's time for us to be serious, to avoid taking
legislative hostages. Maybe the Chamber of Commerce thinks that Wall
Street is in on the joke that is represented by their legislative ploy
here today, but I'm not certain the American public is. It's time to
stop the games.
Mr. CAMP. I yield myself such time as I may consume.
I would just say during the 8 years of the Bush administration, the
debt limit was raised seven times for a total of $5.365 trillion.
According to the CBO, the Congressional Budget Office, the nonpartisan
CBO, the scorer of President's Obama's fiscal year 2012 budget, the
debt limit will have to be raised a total of $5.385 trillion during the
4 years he's President. So 8 years versus 4 years. That means that
President Obama will have raised the debt limit at twice the pace that
President Bush did.
I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. LEVIN. I yield myself 10 seconds.
I think, Mr. Camp, Standard and Poor's did not downgrade. They
threatened. Let's be accurate.
I now yield 1\1/2\ minutes to a distinguished member of the Ways and
Means Committee, the gentleman from New York (Mr. Rangel).
(Mr. RANGEL asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. RANGEL. I think those of us who are Members of Congress or within
the Beltway understand that this is a political thing that's going on
at one of the most serious financial times that our Nation is facing.
I only wonder whether or not our friends and creditors abroad, or
those that respect the United States and even try to follow our fiscal
ways in thinking that this is the strongest country in the entire
world--for them to follow what we are doing, it is an embarrassment to
the House, as well as the Senate, that the President of the United
States of America would ask that our country be safe from a fiscal
point of view by allowing the traditional increase in the debt ceiling.
Notwithstanding the political differences we had, we come together as a
Nation, not to play games on each other for political reasons, but we
come together as a symbol for the free world to understand that if it's
the United States of America, you can depend on us.
But now on the suspension calendar--which is an insult to those
people who have studied the Constitution--in the House of
Representatives, which is reserved for noncontroversial issues, when
the whole world knows that this is controversial and is certainly not a
subject that should be on a calendar called the suspension calendar.
So we still have some time to rehabilitate ourselves. I don't know
how more ridiculous we can get, but I do hope that we avoid this in the
future.
Mr. CAMP. I yield 2 minutes to a distinguished member of the Ways and
Means Committee, the chairman of the Trade Subcommittee, Mr. Brady from
Texas.
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Mr. BRADY of Texas. Mr. Speaker, Members, America is undergoing a
terribly subpar recovery, one of the worst we've seen; three times
worse of an economic recovery than under President Reagan, a worse
recovery than even what President Obama promised us when he spent all
those hundreds of billions of dollars of the stimulus money. We have 13
million Americans out of work. Our unemployment rate is sky high. And
the only reason it's come down a little is that we have fewer people
working in the workforce than we have had for a quarter of a century.
One of the strongest signals we can send to consumers and families
and to businesses to restore their confidence is to make sure they
understand America is going to get its financial house in order.
Republicans in Congress are going to send a statement today that
America will get its house in order. This vote today basically says
we're not going to grant the President an unconditional increase in how
much America can borrow. Here is a good reason why.
We took a look at who ran up the debt for America over the years.
This chart shows we basically said, Who controls the purse strings?
Congress. We took a look at all the debt that's been incurred since
World War II, and what it shows is that the debt held by the public,
that's by people, by countries like China, like firms in the Federal
Reserve Board, 90 percent of the debt that's been run up since World
War II has been accrued by Democrats, 10 percent by Republicans.
Now, that doesn't leave us, as Republicans, off the hook. As a matter
of fact, we're committed to lowering this debt and getting control of
spending. But there is a special obligation by our Democrat friends and
the President to get this spending under control, to put discipline on
the size of government, to restore some financial soundness, to, in
effect, cut up the credit cards. That's what Republicans are committed
to do. That's what Americans, poll after poll, say we need to do as a
Nation. That's why a ``no'' vote on this unconditional debt increase is
the right vote, not just for the country but for our future.
Mr. LEVIN. How much time is there on each side, please?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Levin) has
14\1/2\ minutes. The gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Camp) has 13 minutes.
Mr. LEVIN. I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Maryland, the
ranking member on the Budget Committee, Mr. Van Hollen.
Mr. VAN HOLLEN. I thank my colleague for yielding.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is a political stunt. I just heard my
friend from Texas on the Republican side say Republicans wanted to tear
up the credit card. It was just a few weeks ago when the Republican
budget passed this House. All but four Republicans voted for it. Let me
show you what that did to our credit card.
Here it is. We are at about $14 trillion in debt. The budget all but
four Republicans voted for takes us up toward $23 trillion, $24
trillion in debt. An $8 trillion increase in the national debt by
passing the Republican budget, so that clearly this isn't about tearing
up the credit card.
What is this about? This is about threatening to default on the full
faith and credit of the United States unless we put into place the
Republican budget, including their plan to end the Medicare guarantee
and to slash Medicare benefits. That's what this is all about. They've
said, Whoa, we're going to hold this whole thing up until we get our
way.
Let me tell you what their way would do to seniors. And we've seen it
before on the floor of the House. What it means is that seniors will be
paying thousands and thousands of dollars more for Medicare or getting
their benefits slashed beginning in 2012. And it gets worse and worse
and worse, so that by the year 2030 you're talking about seniors having
to pay $12,000 more for their Medicare because the support they're
getting is going down, while the costs in the private market, which the
Republican plan forces them to go into, go up and up and up. So while
the costs they face go up and up and up, the help they get under
Medicare goes down, down, down, and they're left holding the bill.
What's been interesting in the last couple weeks in connection with
this debt ceiling debate is to hear these Republican proposals that
say, Hey, don't worry about it. You know what? We'll pay China. We'll
pay our overseas foreign creditors on our bonds. We'll take care of
them. But guess what? We don't have to pay our full faith and credit on
our obligations to America's seniors. We don't have to pay Medicare. We
don't have to pay Social Security. Pay off the bond holders. Take care
of them. But let's follow through on this plan to decimate Medicare.
And at the end of the day, that's what this is all about.
Because we all understand that we've got to get the deficit under
control. We're having negotiations with the Vice President to come up
with a responsible, balanced plan. But you're trying to force the
Republican plan, which Newt Gingrich just the other day acknowledges
was a radical right-wing piece of social engineering, until of course
he was bludgeoned by the right wing to withdraw his statement. He was
calling the shots as they were. He was saying, You know what? This
isn't such a good idea.
And what's really outrageous about this charade is you are now
threatening the entire U.S. economy in order
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to get your way on a radical right-wing Medicare plan that's bad for
America's seniors.
Mr. CAMP. I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to a distinguished member of the
Ways and Means Committee, the gentlewoman from Tennessee (Mrs. Black).
Mrs. BLACK. Mr. Speaker, I came to Washington because I knew that we
had a debt problem. But you know what? Once I got here and I started
getting all the facts, I realized that we didn't have a debt problem.
We have a debt crisis. We are $14.2 trillion in debt. And you know
what? That number is even hard to comprehend, it's so large.
Over and over we hear from economists, both conservative and liberal,
that we've got less than 5 years to turn things around or the United
States is going to sink under all this debt. We've seen what has
happened in Greece and Ireland, and I reject that future for the United
States.
The time is now to fix this, because we're out of time and we have an
opportunity to change for the good the way Washington is spending. But
it doesn't seem the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue thinks that we
should change anything. They're happy to keep kicking the can down the
road. But you know what? The road has run out. In fact, the
administration and over 100 Democrats in this Congress want a straight
up or down vote on the debt ceiling. Well, that's what we're going to
get today.
And when this measure to raise the Nation's debt limit fails on the
House floor tonight, we will be sending the White House a message loud
and clear: You will not get another blank check from us, Mr. President.
That's because I and 87 of my freshman colleagues were sent here to
Washington with strict marching orders to change the borrow-and-spend
cycle that is bringing our country down.
Tonight, the people back home can see that we listened to them and
that we are acting for them.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The time of the gentlewoman has expired.
Mr. CAMP. I yield the gentlewoman an additional 30 seconds.
Mrs. BLACK. The American people reject the idea of a clean debt limit
vote and so will the House tonight. Enough is enough.
The gig is up, Mr. President. So now is the time to get serious: Get
serious about ending this debt; get serious about ending Washington's
spending addiction; and get serious about getting this country back on
track.
Announcement by the Speaker Pro Tempore
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Members are advised to address their
comments to the Chair and not to others in the second person.
Mr. LEVIN. I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from California
(Mr. Becerra), a member of our leadership and a member of the Ways and
Means Committee.
Mr. BECERRA. I thank the gentleman for yielding.
Mr. Speaker, the last thing that we need right now is for our
Republican colleagues to play Russian roulette with a recovering
economy by threatening to default on America's bills and triggering an
escalation of interest rates and mortgage rates that will have
repercussions on every single American family, and certainly on every
sector of our economy. Yet that's what we have today.
Republicans have presented a bill that they've said they're going to
vote against. So this whole charade, which is costing taxpayers money
because we have to pay for the lights, for the printing, for all the
Members of Congress and our staffs who are working, we have to pay for
this so we can simply send a message that we're going to vote ``no.''
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The New York Times further tells us today that Republican leaders
have ``privately assured Wall Street executives that this [vote] is a
show.'' Furthermore, they cite that an executive from the U.S. Chamber
of Commerce tells us that ``Wall Street is in on the joke.''
The reality is that what our colleagues on the Republican side are
trying to do is furiously try to deflect the public's attention from
what they recklessly tried to do to Medicare by ending it, because that
is in their proposal in their budget. They are doing everything they
can to try to get people to stop focusing on the fact that seniors are
being asked to pay for this debt by getting less when it comes to
Medicare and certainly every single American as they age into seniority
as well.
Mr. Speaker, every family in America has to balance its checkbook.
They have to do so responsibly. They have to pay the mortgage and pay
the credit card bills. This Congress should do the same. This is not
the time to play jokes. I urge my colleagues to vote ``no'' on this
resolution.
Mr. CAMP. I yield myself such time as I may consume.
I would say that the Medicare trustees have said that Medicare goes
broke in 2024.
So if you support an unconditional debt limit increase, as 100
Democrats wrote to their leaders and asked to be made a position of the
Democrat Caucus, that does nothing about preserving and protecting
Medicare for the future.
Mr. VAN HOLLEN. Will the gentleman yield?
Mr. CAMP. No, I will not yield.
So I would say that by supporting an unconditional increase in the
debt limit, as more than 100 wrote in a letter to their leaders, again,
it would do nothing about preserving that program for the future.
At this time I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from New Mexico (Mr.
Pearce).
Mr. PEARCE. I thank the gentleman for yielding.
In my district people ask, what is this vote about, this debt ceiling
vote, and so I have created a simple chart that just says it as plainly
as we can. We are spending $3.5 trillion in the country each year, and
we are bringing in 2.2 trillion.
It doesn't work for your family, it doesn't work for your business,
and it's not working for the country. In order to make up the
difference, we have to borrow that money except that our bankers are
saying no more, just as your bankers would say no more. So we are
printing the money to make this system work. It's a scheme that's not
working.
This chart in the upper right-hand corner says that the whole economy
collapses about 2038 so OMB and CBO both are saying that we must take
care of the spending problem that we have in this country; that's what
the debt ceiling is about. We have a law that says we can't borrow more
than a certain amount of money.
If we just extend with no provisions for reform, then we are going to
continue to spend this much money every year that we don't have. So
let's take care of the problems; let's do structural reforms in the way
that we are spending our money. Let's do structural reforms on our
budget; let's get it under control so that we don't give our kids a
failed economy.
Mr. LEVIN. Mr. Speaker, it is my pleasure to yield 1\1/2\ minutes to
a member of our committee, the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Neal).
Mr. NEAL. Thank you very much, Mr. Levin.
The gentleman just raised the issue in question. He said, let me tell
you what this is about. Well, let me tell you what this is about. I
just came from the Holyoke Soldiers Home this morning; 287 veterans. I
represent the North Hampton veterans hospital. That's what this vote is
about.
The gentlelady from Tennessee, I wish she was here on January 20 of
2001 when that political party spent their day and night saying, yes,
Mr. President, to George Bush. They went along with everything he said.
They never even bothered to read article I of the Constitution.
This vote is about one thing and one thing only: paying your bills.
They ran up the debt, and now they don't want to pay their bills.
January 19, 2001, Bill Clinton said goodbye to the country, a $5.7
trillion surplus on hand, $2.3 trillion in tax cuts, a war in Iraq over
weapons of mass destruction, a drug prescription benefit called part D,
and they are talking about who owes the bill? This is about
responsibility. This is about those VA centers. This is about those men
and women in Iraq that need to be equipped with the best possible
weaponry. This is about paying the credit card bill that has come in
from what they did for all of those years.
I would debate any member of the Republican Party--you choose the
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forum--in the House or the Senate, and we will go through what those 8
years were about. Count me in.
Mr. CAMP. I yield myself such time as I may consume.
I am certainly concerned about the last 8 years, but I am more
concerned about the last 2. I think we have got the third year in a row
of trillion dollar deficits, a Presidential budget that doubled the
debt in 5, tripled it in 10.
I quote from the Standard and Poor's report on the United States
debt:
``Because very large deficits and rising government indebtedness and
the path to addressing these is not clear to us, we have revised our
outlook on the long-term rating to negative from stable.''
The path to addressing these is not clear. We think it absolutely
essential that we not have an unconditional increase in the debt limit,
that we have the spending reductions, that we have the structural
reforms that we so desperately need in this country.
We have 110 Members of the other party who wrote a letter saying we
want an unconditional increase in the debt; just keep spending. Don't
bring in any spending reductions, don't bring any long-term reforms;
just keep going the way we have been going.
Well, Standard and Poor's says that if we don't address this issue--
and what does that mean that ``we have revised our outlook on the long-
term rating to negative from stable''? It means buying a house is more
expensive; buying a car is more expensive. Certainly our ability to
sell our bonds around the world will be very difficult to do and make
it that much more expensive.
A downgrade in our debt limit would have the same impact as not
increasing the debt limit at all. Financial markets would be disrupted,
borrowing costs would skyrocket, the dollar would plunge, driving up
the cost of imports like gasoline and causing higher inflation. It
would wreak havoc on our economy.
Research Update: United States of America ``AAA/A-1+'' Rating Affirmed;
Outlook Revised To Negative
Overview
We have affirmed our ``AAA/A-1+'' sovereign credit rating
on the United States of America.
The economy of the U.S. is flexible and highly diversified,
the country's effective monetary policies have supported
output growth while containing inflationary pressures, and a
consistent global preference for the U.S. dollar over all
other currencies gives the country unique external liquidity.
Because the U.S. has, relative to its ``AAA'' peers, what
we consider to be very large budget deficits and rising
government indebtedness and the path to addressing these is
not clear to us, we have revised our outlook on the long-term
rating to negative from stable.
We believe there is a material risk that U.S. policymakers
might not reach an agreement on how to address medium- and
long-term budgetary challenges by 2013; if an agreement is
not reached and meaningful implementation does not begin by
then, this would in our view render the U.S. fiscal profile
meaningfully weaker than that of peer ``AAA'' sovereigns.
Rating Action
On April 18, 2011, Standard & Poor's Ratings Services
affirmed its ``AAA'' long-term and ``A-1+'' short-term
sovereign credit ratings on the United States of America and
revised its outlook on the long-term rating to negative from
stable.
Rationale
Our ratings on the U.S. rest on its high-income, highly
diversified, and flexible economy, backed by a strong track
record of prudent and credible monetary policy. The ratings
also reflect our view of the unique advantages stemming from
the dollar's preeminent place among world currencies.
Although we believe these strengths currently outweigh what
we consider to be the U.S.'s meaningful economic and fiscal
risks and large external debtor position, we now believe that
they might not fully offset the credit risks over the next
two years at the ``AAA'' level.
The U.S. is among the most flexible high-income nations,
with both adaptable labor markets and a long track record of
openness to capital flows. In addition, its public sector
uses a smaller share of national income than those of most
``AAA'' rated countries--including its closest peers, the
U.K., France, Germany, and Canada (all AAA/Stable/A-1+)--
which implies greater revenue flexibility.
Furthermore, the U.S. dollar is the world's most used
currency, which provides the U.S. with unique external
flexibility; the vast majority of U.S. trade flows and
external liabilities are denominated in its own dollars.
Recent depreciation of the currency has not materially
affected this position, and we do not expect this to change
in the medium term (see ``Apres Le Deluge, The U.S. Dollar
Remains The Key International Currency,'' March 10, 2010,
RatingsDirect).
Despite these exceptional strengths, we note the U.S.'s
fiscal profile has deteriorated steadily during the past
decade and, in our view, has worsened further as a result of
the recent financial crisis and ensuing recession. Moreover,
more than two years after the beginning of the recent crisis,
U.S. policymakers have still not agreed on a strategy to
reverse recent fiscal deterioration or address longer-term
fiscal pressures.
In 2003-2008, the U.S.'s general (total) government deficit
fluctuated between 2% and 5% of GDP. Already noticeably
larger than that of most ``AAA'' rated sovereigns, it
ballooned to more than 11% in 2009 and has yet to recover.
On April 13, President Barack Obama laid out his
Administration's medium-term fiscal consolidation plan, aimed
at reducing the cumulative unified federal deficit by US$4
trillion in 12 years or less. A key component of the
Administration's strategy is to work with Congressional
leaders over the next two months to develop a commonly agreed
upon program to reach this target. The President's proposals
envision reducing the deficit via both spending cuts and
revenue increases, and the adoption of a ``debt failsafe''
legislative mechanism that would trigger an across-the-board
spending reduction if, by 2014, budget projections show that
federal debt to GDP has not yet stabilized and is not
expected to decline in the second half of the current decade.
The Obama Administration's proposed spending cuts include
reducing non-security discretionary spending to levels
similar to those proposed by the Fiscal Commission in
December 2010, holding growth in base security (excluding war
expenditure) spending below inflation, and further cost-
control measures related to health care programs. Revenue
would be increased via both tax reform and allowing the 2001
and 2003 income and estate tax cuts to expire in 2012 as
currently scheduled--though only for high-income households.
We note that the President advocated the latter proposal last
year before agreeing with Republicans to extend the cuts
beyond their previously scheduled 2011 expiration. The
compromise agreed upon in December likely provides short-term
support for the economic recovery, but we believe it also
weakens the U.S.'s fiscal outlook and, in our view, reduces
the likelihood that Congress will allow these tax cuts to
expire in the near future. We also note that previously
enacted legislative mechanisms meant to enforce budgetary
discipline on future Congresses have not always succeeded.
Key members in the U.S. House of Representatives have also
advocated fiscal tightening of a similar magnitude, US$4.4
trillion, during the coming 10 years, but via different
methods. House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan's plan
seeks to balance the federal budget by 2040, in part by
cutting non-defense spending. The plan also includes
significantly reducing the scope of Medicare and Medicaid,
while bringing top individual and corporate tax rates lower
than those under the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts.
We view President Obama's and Congressman Ryan's proposals
as the starting point of a process aimed at broader
engagement, which could result in substantial and lasting
U.S. government fiscal consolidation. That said, we see the
path to agreement as challenging because the gap between the
parties remains wide. We believe there is a significant risk
that Congressional negotiations could result in no agreement
on a medium-term fiscal strategy until after the fall 2012
Congressional and Presidential elections. If so, the first
budget proposal that could include related measures would be
Budget 2014 (for the fiscal year beginning Oct. 1, 2013), and
we believe a delay beyond that time is possible.
Standard & Poor's takes no position on the mix of spending
and revenue measures the Congress and the Administration
might conclude are appropriate. But for any plan to be
credible, we believe that it would need to secure support
from a cross-section of leaders in both political parties.
If U.S. policymakers do agree on a fiscal consolidation
strategy, we believe the experience of other countries
highlights that implementation could take time. It could also
generate significant political controversy, not just within
Congress or between Congress and the Administration, but
throughout the country. We therefore think that, assuming an
agreement between Congress and the President, there is a
reasonable chance that it would still take a number of years
before the government reaches a fiscal position that
stabilizes its debt burden. In addition, even if such
measures are eventually put in place, the initiating
policymakers or subsequently elected ones could decide to at
least partially reverse fiscal consolidation.
In our baseline macroeconomic scenario of near 3% annual
real growth, we expect the general government deficit to
decline gradually but remain slightly higher than 6% of GDP
in 2013. As a result, net general government debt would reach
84% of GDP by 2013. In our macroeconomic forecast's
optimistic scenario (assuming near 4% annual real growth),
the fiscal deficit would fall to 4.6% of GDP by 2013, but the
U.S.'s net general government debt would still rise to almost
80% of GDP by 2013. In our pessimistic scenario (a mild, one-
year double-dip recession in 2012), the deficit would be
9.1%, while net debt would surpass 90% by 2013. Even in our
optimistic scenario, we believe the U.S.'s fiscal profile
would be less robust than those of
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other ``AAA'' rated sovereigns by 2013. (For all of the
assumptions underpinning our three forecast scenarios, see
``U.S. Risks To The Forecast: Oil We Have to Fear Is . . .,''
March 15, 2011, RatingsDirect.
Additional fiscal risks we see for the U.S. include the
potential for further extraordinary official assistance to
large players in the U.S. financial or other sectors, along
with outlays related to various federal credit programs. We
estimate that it could cost the U.S. government as much as
3.5% of GDP to, appropriately capitalize and relaunch Fannie
Mae and Freddie Mac, two financial institutions now under
federal control, in addition to the 1% of GDP already
invested (see ``U.S. Government Cost To Resolve And Relaunch
Fannie Mae And Freddie Mac Could Approach $700 Billion,''
Nov. 4, 2010, RatingsDirect). The potential for losses on
federal direct and guaranteed loans (such as student loans)
is another material fiscal risk, in our view. Most
importantly, we believe the risks from the U.S. financial
sector are higher than we considered them to be before 2008,
as our downward revisions of our Banking Industry Country
Risk Assessment (BICRA) on the U.S. to Group 3 from Group 2
in December 2009 and to Group 2 from Group 1 in December
2008 reflect (see ``Banking Industry Country Risk
Assessments,'' March 8, 2011, and ``Banking Industry
Country Risk Assessment: United States of America,'' Feb.
1, 2010, both on RatingsDirect). In line with these views,
we now estimate the maximum aggregate, up-front fiscal
cost to the U.S. government of resolving potential
financial sector asset impairment in a stress scenario at
34% of GDP compared with our estimate of 26% in 2007.
Beyond the short- and medium-term fiscal challenges, we
view the U.S.'s unfunded entitlement programs (such as Social
Security, Medicare, and Medicaid) to be the main source of
long-term fiscal pressure. These, entitlements already
account for almost half of federal spending (an estimated 42%
in fiscal-year 2011), and we project that percentage to
continue increasing as long as these entitlement programs
remain as they currently exist (see ``Global Aging 2010: In
The U.S., Going Gray Will Cost A Lot More Green,'' Oct. 25,
2010, RatingsDirect). In addition, the U.S.'s net external
debt level (as we narrowly define it), approaching 300% of
current account receipts in 2011, demonstrates a high
reliance on foreign financing. The U.S.'s external
indebtedness by this measure is one of the highest of all the
sovereigns we rate.
While thus far U.S. policymakers have been unable to agree
on a fiscal consolidation strategy, the U.S.'s closest
``AAA'' rated peers have already begun implementing theirs.
The U.K., for example, suffered a recession almost twice as
severe as that in the U.S. (U.K. GDP declined 4.9% in real
terms in 2009, while the U.S.'s dropped 2.6%). In addition,
the U.K.'s net general government indebtedness has risen in
tandem with that of the U.S. since 2007. In June 2010, the
U.K. began to implement a fiscal consolidation plan that we
believe credibly sets the country's general government
deficit on a medium-term downward path, retreating below 5%
of GDP by 2013.
We also expect that by 2013, France's austerity program,
which it is already implementing, will reduce that country's
deficit, which never rose to the levels of the U.S. or U.K.
during the recent recession, to slightly below the U.K.
deficit. Germany, which suffered a recession of similar
magnitude to that in the U.K. (but has enjoyed a much
stronger recovery), enacted a constitutional limit on fiscal
deficits in 2009 and we believe its general government
deficit was already at 3% of GDP last year and will likely
decrease further. Meanwhile, Canada, the only sovereign of
the peer group to suffer no major financial institution
failures requiring direct government assistance during the
crisis, enjoys by far the lowest net general government debt
of the five peers (we estimate it at 34% of GDP this year),
largely because of an unbroken string of balanced-or-better
general government budgetary outturns from 1997 through 2008.
Canada's general government deficit never exceeded 4% of GDP
during the recent recession, and we believe it will likely
return to less than 0.5% of GDP by 2013.
Outlook
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signals that we believe there is at least a one-in-three
likelihood that we could lower our long-term rating on the
U.S. within two years. The outlook reflects our view of the
increased risk that the political negotiations over when and
how to address both the medium- and long-term fiscal
challenges will persist until at least after national
elections in 2012.
Some compromise that achieves agreement on a comprehensive
budgetary consolidation program--containing deficit reduction
measures in amounts near those recently proposed, and
combined with meaningful steps toward implementation by
2013--is our baseline assumption and could lead us to revise
the outlook back to stable. Alternatively, the lack of such
an agreement or a significant further fiscal deterioration
for any reason could lead us to lower the rating.
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I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. LEVIN. I yield myself 5 seconds.
Mr. Camp, you were the ones who said just keep spending. We don't say
that.
I now yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Doggett).
Mr. DOGGETT. Today's vote represents just one more step in the
Republican effort to dismantle Medicare. This contrived procedure,
demanding an extraordinary two-thirds vote, right after the Republican
majority announces they won't vote for it, is just a gimmick. You don't
have to be much of a math whiz to know if you don't have half the votes
in this body, you probably are not going to get two-thirds of the vote.
But it's not about the vote. It's about Republicans, who are
withholding their support of an eventual necessary increase in the
limit, by demanding that any agreement on that include a weakening of
Medicare by imposing something like the Ryan Republican Medicare
voucher plan that they all voted for, or some other scheme, to just let
Medicare wither on the vine.
Republicans are willing to jeopardize the full faith and credit of
the United States of America, exposing us to great potential economic
harm. They think the President will once again yield to their ransom
demands, as he did last December, by yielding on more tax breaks for
billionaires.
Don't yield to this maneuver, Mr. President. Say ``no'' to gimmicks
and say ``yes'' to Medicare, one of the best programs ever initiated by
this Congress to ensure a little retirement security.
Announcement by the Speaker Pro Tempore
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair would remind all Members to
address their remarks to the Chair and not to others in the second
person.
Mr. CAMP. I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Louisiana (Mr.
Scalise).
Mr. SCALISE. I thank the gentleman from Michigan for yielding.
Mr. Speaker, we are here today, not talking about something as the
other side would contend is a joke. This is a very serious issue, and I
rise in opposition to an increase in the debt ceiling that would just
give the President another couple of trillion dollars to keep spending
the way he has been spending for the last 2 years.
I think Americans across the country recognize that this wild
spending spree the President has been on the last 2 years has to come
to an end, and it's going to start here on this House floor where we
are going to finally invoke fiscal discipline. And, of course, over 100
Members of the other side have asked for a clean vote. They want
another trillion to keep going along, maybe 2 trillion, to keep
spending money that we don't have.
Mr. HOYER. Will the gentleman yield?
Mr. SCALISE. In fact, if you look at their plan, their plan not only
will double the national debt in 5 years, which I guess they are okay
with, but it also allows Medicare to go bankrupt. We are not going to
sit by and let Medicare go bankrupt. We are not going to sit by and let
them keep spending money that we don't have.
We are finally going to say enough is enough.
Mr. HOYER. Will the gentleman yield?
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Mr. SCALISE. We are going to put spending controls in place. Frankly,
it would be irresponsible to increase the debt ceiling without reforms
that actually start cutting spending and putting our country back on a
path to a balanced budget.
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Now maybe some on the other side don't want to see us get to a
balanced budget, which is why they've dramatically increased spending
over the last 4 years up until when Speaker Pelosi was fired. But,
frankly, the American people have said, enough is enough, stop the
spending binge, enough of giving the President this uncontrolled use of
the American credit card. Let's start reining in spending. Let's put
those controls in place. Let's get our country back on a path of fiscal
sanity so we don't have these groups like S&P saying that they will
downgrade the bond rating of the United States of America. That's not
something we can tolerate.
Mr. HOYER. Will the gentleman yield?
Mr. SCALISE. Maybe the gentleman on the other side might want to, and
I'm sure during your time you'll have the opportunity to address that,
but, frankly, what we've got to do is start installing fiscal
discipline back in this House, and we're going to start doing it now.
It means no more blank checks and no more unbridled spending. The
President is going to have an opportunity to join us in that debate.
But, frankly, it starts tonight, and we say we're not going to keep
giving that credit card limit to the President without real reforms.
Mr. LEVIN. It is now my pleasure to yield 3 minutes to the whip, Mr.
Hoyer from Maryland.
Mr. HOYER. I thank the gentleman for yielding.
Unfortunately, this is a serious issue on which serious time has not
been allotted because you put this on suspension. This is a serious
issue. Our country is in crisis from a fiscal standpoint.
Now I wanted the gentleman to yield because I don't think the
gentleman has any idea what the facts are. Eighty-nine percent increase
in the debt under Ronald Reagan. He could have vetoed every one of
those bills. Under George Bush, 115 percent increase in the debt. Under
Bill Clinton, less than 40.
Ladies and gentlemen, this issue is an important issue that is being
treated not as an adult. This is not the adult moment of which Speaker
Boehner spoke. And you didn't mention that the budget you voted for, I
presume, I'm not sure, increased the debt by $1.9 trillion between now
and October 1 of this year.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is not an honest debate. This is not an
honest proposal. This is a serious issue. TARP was a serious issue, and
the American public didn't want to see it passed. And had it not
passed, we would have gone into depression. Who said that? George Bush,
Hank Paulson, the Republican Secretary of the Treasury, and Ben
Bernanke, the Republican appointed head of the Federal Reserve. It was
a tough vote.
And so what did we do for America? We came together, Republicans and
Democrats, more Democrats supporting the Republican President's request
than his own party, to save America from depression.
We need to deal with this issue, ladies and gentlemen, of America
seriously, not in 20-minute debates on each side, not as a simplistic
suggestion that somehow President Obama caused this. One point three
trillion in wars we haven't paid for, a drug prescription bill we
haven't paid for, tax cuts that your party voted for--not mine--that we
didn't pay for. Should we have tax cuts? That's fine. But we ought to
pay for them, not have my great-grandson, who was just born a week ago,
pay for it. That's what you're doing.
Ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to vote ``no'' on this. We ought to
vote for this. We ought to have a clean bill. And we ought to have both
sides coming together and saying America needs this for debts that we
have incurred. What I tell town meetings is, it's like you go to
Macy's, you take out your credit card, and you charge $200 worth of
goods. And then you go home that night, your husband or your wife and
you sit down and say, look, we've got too much debt, we need to have a
debt limit. Put a $100 debt limit on us. And then Macy's sends you a
bill, and you send them back a letter and say, no, I've got a debt
limit. It's 100 bucks. So you send them a check for $100. They send
back a letter saying, hey, no more credit, and guess what? We're suing
you.
This debt limit extension is for what we have already incurred. This
debt limit extension vote is about whether or not we are going to pay
our bills. But I will tell you this, we'll see how many of your folks
vote for paying our bills.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The time of the gentleman has expired.
Mr. LEVIN. The whip is so eloquent, I yield the gentleman another 30
seconds.
Mr. HOYER. I'm looking forward to seeing how many of your folks are
going to say, yes, we need to pay our bills, America. We need to be a
good debtor as well as a good creditor. We're going to see how many of
your folks vote. I've got just a sneaking suspicion it's not going to
be very many, if any. It's a good demagogue vote, frankly, ladies and
gentlemen. And if we vote for it, guess what? Oh, you're for raising
the debt limit without any fiscal discipline.
Well, when we were in charge, when the President of the United States
wouldn't let you do some of the things you wanted to do, Bill Clinton
was there to veto things, we had a surplus for 4 years in a row, and we
didn't increase the debt once.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The time of the gentleman has expired.
Mr. HOYER. Under George Bush, we increased it seven times. I urge a
``no'' vote on this irresponsible piece of legislation that should have
been handled in a bipartisan fashion.
Mr. CAMP. I yield myself such time as I may consume.
One hundred fourteen members of the other party signed a letter to
the leader who just spoke and asked for an unconditional increase in
the debt limit. I know that's not maybe a fact they want to acknowledge
now, but it is so important that we have a clear path forward on this
given what the rating agencies are saying about our debt. They're
saying it's not clear how we are going to deal with our indebtedness.
It is so important that we set forward that when we address this
issue, there are going to be the kind of spending reductions and
structural reforms we need. That is going to have to be part of this
discussion. We can't continue to have it clouded with this idea that we
might have a debt limit increase without any of those. That's why it is
so important to send this very strong signal today.
I hope all of the members of your party join me in voting ``no'' on
this bill.
At this time, I yield 1 minute to the distinguished gentleman from
Michigan (Mr. Huizenga).
Mr. HUIZENGA of Michigan. I appreciate the chairman for yielding me
this moment to address the American people and the students that might
be watching on TV or here in the gallery.
Once again, you see the problem that we have here in Washington. We
cannot have a fact-based conversation with the American people, which
they desperately want. I talked to a lot of students back at home, and
I said, how many of you are going to have a summer job? A lot of them
raised their hands. I said, okay, we're going to say you're going to
make $220 a week. But you've got a problem. We're going to take your
credit card, and you're going to spend $370 a week. How long do you
think you can do that as you're saving up for college, as you're saving
for that car or that piece of computer equipment? Can you do that all
summer? The kids look at me and say, of course not. Don't be dumb. You
can't do that.
Then I say, do you know what? Add 10 zeros to it. Add 10 zeros to
that, and that's exactly what we are doing here in the United States
Congress, what we have been doing repeatedly, both sides of the aisle,
with both administrations. It doesn't matter. We have got to get this
under control. Because when you add those 10 zeros, just like my friend
from New Mexico was talking about, we take in $2.2 trillion a year, we
spend $3.7 trillion a year.
It's time to tear up that credit card, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. LEVIN. How much time remains from our minimum 20 minutes?
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The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Levin) has
3\1/2\ minutes remaining. The gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Camp) has
4\1/2\ minutes remaining.
Mr. LEVIN. I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. CAMP. At this time, I yield 2 minutes to a distinguished member
of the Ways and Means Committee, the gentleman from North Dakota (Mr.
Berg).
Mr. BERG. Mr. Speaker, every time I talk to North Dakotans, one
message is clear: Washington is on an unsustainable path, and it needs
change. Out-of-control spending is unacceptable. A rising debt is
unacceptable. And allowing this debt to grow without reform is
unacceptable.
This country borrows $4 billion a day. Fixing this mess will require
real reforms. It requires a serious, honest conversation about where
this country stands today and how we want to leave this country for the
next generation. It's irresponsible to leave our children with a Nation
that has a mountain of debt.
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It is unacceptable to increase our debt without making any attempt to
reduce it. We cannot continue to do the same thing over and over and
expect different results.
I've heard the North Dakota people, and I will not support any debt
limit increase that does not contain significant spending cuts and
budgetary reforms. It's time to stop the reckless spending. It's time
to reduce the size of government. It's time to enact policies that will
put America back on track.
Mr. LEVIN. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from
Vermont (Mr. Welch).
Mr. WELCH. I thank the gentleman.
Mr. Speaker, I signed that letter, I led that letter, and I will tell
you why I did. America faces two challenges. One is we must pay our
bills. Whether those bills were incurred for a war that you supported
or you opposed; whether those bills were incurred by a Congress you
served in or you didn't; whether it was for a prescription drug program
that you were for or against, a bill incurred, an obligation incurred,
is an obligation that must be paid. That is the fundamental
responsibility that I acknowledge as a citizen, that I acknowledge as
an American, that I acknowledge as a Congressman.
Second, this question of a long-term deficit reduction plan, we need
it. You are right. We understand that.
Where is it?
You have the opportunity in this legislation to present your plan
that will get us on a glide path to fiscal balance. It's not here,
suggesting either you don't have a plan or the plan you want to present
doesn't have the support of the American people.
We are playing Russian roulette with a loaded gun in the American
economy, and the deficit clock is ticking. This requires a substantial
response. The approach taken, a suspension vote, trivializes both our
short-term obligation to pay our bills and our long-term obligation to
have a long-term deficit reduction plan.
And the fact that this is done, being sponsored by folks who
immediately say they are against what they proposed and then quietly
making phone calls to Wall Street saying they are for what they just
voted against, is what is Washington business as usual that people are
tired of and is not solving our problem.
The default clock is ticking.
Mr. CAMP. Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Levin) has
2 minutes remaining. The gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Camp) has 3
minutes remaining.
Mr. LEVIN. I would ask the gentleman from Michigan, do you have other
speakers?
Mr. CAMP. Not at this time.
Mr. LEVIN. I now yield 1 minute to the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr.
Andrews).
(Mr. ANDREWS asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. ANDREWS. Mr. Speaker, if the Treasury had a dollar for every time
someone says they want to cut the deficit, we wouldn't have one. So
let's stop talking about cutting the deficit and talk about how we can
cut the deficit.
Let's let Medicare negotiate the price of prescription drugs, rather
than pay whatever the drug companies demand, and save $300 billion over
10 years.
Let's stop occupying Iraq and Afghanistan and paying their bills, to
the tune of $110 billion a year, and bring the troops home.
Let's stop giving $80 billion in tax breaks to the oil companies that
made record profits last year.
Let's require people who make more than $1 million a year to pay just
a little bit more to help reduce this problem.
And let's have sensible reductions in other departments of
government.
This is not a time for us to be providing cover to a political party.
It is a time for us to cover the obligations to our seniors, not by
abolishing Medicare but by improving it, to cover obligations to our
veterans, and cover obligations to the country. We will come back in a
couple of weeks and do what we should be doing tonight, which is to
raise this debt ceiling and protect this country.
Mr. CAMP. Mr. Speaker, I have no further requests for time, and I
reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. LEVIN. I yield our final minute to our leader, who will close on
our behalf, Ms. Pelosi, from the great State of California.
Ms. PELOSI. Thank you, Mr. Levin, for your compliment to my great
State of California.
Mr. Speaker, when I first heard this legislation was coming to the
floor, I anticipated with some positive thoughts of, yes, this is the
right thing to do. America must pay its bills. We know how to do that.
We want to go forward, assuring the American people that, when we
decide not to default on our debt, we are showing our strength, even
though it may be difficult for people to support that.
Then I heard that it was going to come up like this. On Sunday, they
told us it would be up on Tuesday and that the bill is predicated on a
false premise. It says the Congress finds that the President's budget
proposal, Budget of the United States Government, Fiscal Year 2012,
necessitates an increase in the statutory debt of $2.4 trillion.
Well, that is just absolutely not the case. First of all, that bill
never passed the House and it never passed the United States Senate.
What did pass the House, though, was the Republican budget plan, which
abolishes Medicare, gives tax increases to Big Oil, gives tax breaks to
corporations sending jobs overseas, weakens the middle class, and does
not create jobs. And, in fact, increases the deficit by $1.9 trillion.
It increases the deficit by $1.9 trillion.
So what are we doing here today? What are we doing? The Republicans
have introduced a bill which they have now resoundingly said that they
will oppose. So where is the good-faith effort here? We are, I believe,
in a good-faith effort, in a bipartisan way, House and Senate,
Democrats and Republicans, working with Vice President Biden to find
ways to make sure we don't find ourselves in this situation again.
As a mother and as a grandmother, I have absolutely no intention of
passing any bills, personal or official, on to my children or
grandchildren. And let me say, the Democrats know how to clean up the
debt. We have had to do it before. The Reagan-Bush debt that President
Clinton inherited was a massive debt, and because we took the vote for
the economic plan in 1993, we were on a path to fiscal soundness. The
last four budgets of the Clinton administration were in balance or in
surplus. I believe the Democratic whip, Mr. Hoyer, addressed these
numbers earlier, and I associate myself with his remarks and his
passion on this subject.
Coming into the Bush years, President Clinton put us on a path of
$5.6 trillion, a trajectory of $5.6 trillion in surplus. One of the
biggest turnarounds in the fiscal situation in our country happened
under President Bush. So all of this talk about deficits and their
immorality and the rest, I agree. But where was everybody when
President Bush was giving tax breaks to the wealthiest people in our
country, which did not create jobs, giving away the store to the
pharmaceutical industry in the Medicare part D bill, at a tremendous
cost to the deficit, and not paying for the wars?
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Again, we place our men and women in uniform in harm's way. They make
us the home of the brave and the land of the free. We want them to have
what they need. They want us to pay for it. We owe them an obligation
to build a future worthy of their sacrifice, and that future does not
contain unlimited growing debt, unlimited growing debt.
Never before in the history of our country have we lowered taxes for
the rich while we were at war. This is an all-time first. So here we
are. We inherit this debt of the Bush administration. That's why we are
in the situation we are in.
So as our colleagues try to characterize this as we're raising the
debt limit so there can be more spending, no, we're not. We're avoiding
default of the massive debt accrued during the Bush administration.
That's why we are here.
So to predicate this legislation, which I really, coming out of last
week, thought maybe it was something I would support, unencumbered
legislation so that we would pay our bills and not be a deadbeat
nation, instead they predicate it again on a false premise.
The facts are these: The Republican budget did pass this House; the
Republican budget. They just want to change the subject from Medicare.
That's all. They just want to change the subject from Medicare, so
let's just bring this up at the drop of a hat in the first hours back
from Memorial Day. They want to change the subject from Medicare.
But the facts are these: In their Republican budget, which is the
predicate for this legislation, they abolish Medicare. Not only that,
they make prescription drugs more expensive for seniors.
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They eliminate prevention services for seniors, services which make
them healthier and lower costs to us. They do all of this while also,
as far as the children are concerned, cutting education for our
children, the reading teachers for our children, making college more
expensive for nearly 10 million young adults--all of this a travesty in
terms of our hopes and aspirations of middle-income families in our
country.
Then to add insult to that injury, they come in here with a bill that
they have to bring up immediately so that they can oppose it. Well,
even the Chamber of Commerce has said, We're all in on the joke, but it
just isn't that funny if you're a struggling family in America, hoping
to keep your job, your home, to be able to send your children to
college, save for the future, have some confidence about your economic
security. If you're a senior or others who depend on Medicare, to have
it abolished hurts your economic as well as your health security.
So this is about priorities. A budget should be a statement of our
national values, what is important to us as a country: the education of
our children, the respect of the dignified retirement for our seniors,
job creation, in that we have a moral obligation to create jobs so we
have jobs for our workers and so they can have better futures, as well
as to make our country more competitive, reducing the deficit. We've
done it once, the Democrats did. We can do it again, hopefully in a
bipartisan way under the auspices that have been created for this
purpose. We are right in the middle of it. We come in and say, Okay,
let's introduce a bill based on a false premise, and then let's all
oppose it. Well, I'm glad you're opposing it, because you're opposing
the false premise that you have in this bill.
Let's get serious. Let's get serious about this. The American people
are crying out for help.
Do you know that the tax cuts on which this deficit has grown, the
tax cuts to the wealthy, did not create jobs? They increased the
deficit. They did not create jobs. More jobs were created in the second
year of the Obama administration in the private sector than in the 8
years of the Bush administration. So this talk that tax cuts to the
high end were going to create jobs just didn't happen. We don't want to
talk about the past. We want to know what we're going to do in the
future, but it's important to learn from the past so we don't do it
again, so we're not in this situation again.
As I said, as to the thought of an unencumbered bill that would come
to the floor, if that would be the case, I looked favorably upon that
until I saw what was in here, which isn't right. I'm glad that,
hopefully, it will have a big, strong vote against it.
I want to commend my colleague, Congressman Welch. In his letter, he
is not demanding anything. He is saying let's get together and talk
about how we can pass a bill that is a clean debt limit bill. That's
what he is talking about. Why don't we follow his lead on that and get
together and talk about how we can do this in a way that is clean and/
or at the same time has a bipartisan plan to reduce the deficit so that
we can do just that as we increase jobs and strengthen the middle
class.
Thank you, Mr. Welch, for your leadership in that regard. I know that
it has been mischaracterized here, but I salute you for your leadership
on that score.
So, my colleagues, you'll vote the way you'll vote, but the fact is
what is happening on this floor is not serious. It's not serious, but
the subject it addresses is serious. It is time for this Congress of
the United States to get serious about debt reduction, job creation,
and to stop this assault on Medicare, which is the basis for this
legislation today.
General Leave
Mr. CAMP. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that all Members have
5 legislative days in which to revise and extend their remarks and to
include extraneous material on H.R. 1954.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the
gentleman from Michigan?
There was no objection.
Mr. CAMP. I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Last February, when the President submitted his budget for 2012, he
did not provide any plan for reining in deficits and debt. The
administration called for a clean increase in the debt limit, or an
increase in the debt limit that was unconditional, one that had no
spending reductions or structural reforms to try to address the problem
that we face, and it assumed $2.4 trillion in borrowing authority, or
an increase in the debt limit of about $2.4 trillion. One hundred
fourteen Democrats have asked the leadership of their party for an
unconditional vote on the debt limit.
My colleagues on the other side have been very reminiscent about the
Bush years, and I would just say that, in 4 years, the debt under the
Obama administration will exceed that of the Bush administration's in 8
years; or another way of putting that is the debt under this President
is going up at twice the rate it did under President Bush.
So it is important that we send a clear signal that there is not
going to be an unconditional increase in the debt limit and that we are
serious about addressing our debt and deficit problems as a country.
We've seen the signals that we've gotten from the financial markets,
and we've heard what our constituents have said. It is very important
that we bring the kinds of spending reductions and reforms to this
debate that we need to, so I urge a ``no'' vote.
Ms. JACKSON LEE of Texas. Mr. Speaker, I rise today in support of
H.R. 1954, the Debt Limit Extension. For weeks, Congressional Democrats
and Republicans and the Obama Administration have been engaged for
weeks in bipartisan deficit reduction talks. Today's vote on the debt
limit extension brought to the floor despite House Republicans
promotion to vote against the bill is a dangerous stunt of political
theatrics that could jeopardize those serious bipartisan negotiations.
Our country cannot afford to take the debt limit negotiations lightly.
It is reckless for Republicans to send confusing signals to
international markets that could jeopardize our own fragile economic
recovery. This bill is a gimmick, by Republican leadership and
something as serious as our country's debt limit should not be part of
political games. I stand with my fellow Congressional Democrats and
remain committed to responsible deficit reduction.
We must protect our citizens. Medicare guarantees a healthy and
secure retirement for Americans who have paid into it for their entire
working lives. Protecting Medicare represents the basic values of
fairness and respect for our seniors that all Americans cherish. I am
committed to addressing the budget deficit by putting America's working
families first. We should not be cutting programs that protect the
everyday lives of Americans.
An attack on Medicare and Medicaid are examples of wrong priorities
and are wrong choices for seniors and middle class families.
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Facts About Medicare and Medicaid:
Medicare covers a population with diverse needs and circumstances.
While many beneficiaries enjoy good health, a quarter or more have
serious health problems and live with multiple chronic conditions,
including cognitive and functional impairments. Most people with
Medicare live on modest incomes. Today, 43% of all Medicare
beneficiaries are between 65 and 74 years old and 12% are 85 or older.
Those who are 85 or older are the fastest-growing age group among
elderly Medicare beneficiaries. With the aging and growth of the
population, the number of Medicare beneficiaries more than doubled
between 1966 and 2000 and is projected to grow from 45 million today to
79 million in 2030.
Medicaid is the nation's largest health coverage program measured by
enrollees (53 million). Through its 40 year history, the program has
transformed from a welfare-based health coverage program to a health
insurance and long-term care program serving both low income
individuals and families and providing long-term care services for
individuals with disabilities and the low-income elderly. Because
Medicaid has such a diverse set of obligations and is run jointly by
federal and state governments there is much misunderstanding about
facts related to the program.
Managed care is an example of an innovation that became a standard
option--about 60 percent of beneficiaries are in managed care. A
current innovation that several states are experimenting with is moving
long-term care services towards a home and community based setting.
Additionally, Medicaid's structure has allowed it to expand and readily
adapt to emerging issues in the American health system like the HIV/
AIDS crisis.
Sixty percent of nursing home residents are not on Medicaid at the
time of their admittance into a facility. With the average annual cost
of nursing home care being $60,000, the longer an individual remains in
a facility, the more likely they are to deplete their financial
resources and qualify for Medicaid coverage. Even after individuals
deplete their assets, they are still required to apply their income,
including Social Security and pension checks, towards their care costs,
except for an average monthly $30 personal needs allowance.
Compared to private health programs, Medicaid has lower
administrative costs per claims paid when compared to private sector
plans. Medicaid per capita growth has been consistently about half the
rate of growth in private insurance premiums. Both of these factors
show that despite program growth, Medicaid is an efficient program.
Mr. Speaker, not only will allowing America to default on its debt
wreak havoc and chaos on financial markets around the world, but it
will also be damaging to the most vulnerable members of our society. In
essence it takes a hatchet to the programs Americans truly care about.
In my district in Houston, Texas, there are 190,035 people living under
the poverty line as well as 82,272 seniors and over 58,500 seniors. If
House Republicans' self destructive economic policies are allowed to
play out it will threaten the viability of the programs that our
Nation's seniors, children, and poor depend on for health and well
being.
Despite countless warnings from economists, business leaders, and
Wall Street executives about the economic consequences, House
Republicans are still holding the economy hostage by threatening to
default on our debt and are putting the economy at risk by suggesting
America might not pay its bills.
Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said defaulting on our debt
would ``at minimum'' lead to ``an increase in interest rates, which
would actually worsen our deficit and would hurt all borrowers in the
economy.''
Additionally, a coalition of 62 of the nation's largest business
groups urged Congress to raise the debt limit: ``With economic growth
slowly picking up we cannot afford to jeopardize that growth with the
massive spike in borrowing costs that would result if we defaulted on
our obligations.''
But in case that isn't convincing enough, Third Way, a well respected
moderate think thak, released a report outlining the consequences of
not paying America's bills:
642,500 jobs lost
GDP would decrease by 1%
Every mortgage would increase by $19,175
Stocks would fall, the S&P dropping 6.3%
And every 401(k) holder would lose $8,816
The House Republican majority needs to stop threatening the American
people and get to work to increase the debt ceiling so that our country
can pay its bills. The real issue that we should be focusing on is that
we must raise revenues while also reducing spending. They must
complement each other. Congressional Republicans must accept the
challenge that everything must be on the table, including ending the
tax cuts to the top 2% of the wealthiest people in our country.
We need a serious debt ceiling increase bill so that we can have
deliberative discussion on how to cut spending without cutting Medicare
and Medicaid. We do not need to hold the American economy hostage, and
we need to begin these discussions in order to show the world that we
are fiscally responsible.
If not, the failure to extend our Nation's debt limit would have
harmful effects on job creation and the programs necessary to ensure
the health and safety of out constituents. I support a clean bill that
is not layered down with Republican Christmas tree ornaments that are
made for special interests. This will raise our debt. We must pay our
bills otherwise this will be detrimental to our Nation and that I will
not support.
Mr. WEST. Mr. Speaker, when the United States Congress was faced with
raising the debt ceiling in 2006 Senator Barack Obama stated ``The fact
that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign
of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can't pay
its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial
assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless
fiscal policies.''
I will not be party to a failure of leadership when it comes to the
debt ceiling. Today, I will do what I stated when I ran for the House
of Representatives, I will vote against increasing a debt ceiling
absent of spending control measures to right our fiscal ship of state.
This resolution would increase the current statutory debt limit by
$2.406 trillion, from $14.294 trillion $16.7 trillion. The 16.8 percent
increase would be the fourth time the debt ceiling has been increased
since February 2009.
Over the past two years, President Obama and congressional Democrats
have overseen the largest budget deficits in the history of the United
States. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid chastised the Republicans and
President George W. Bush in 2006 when he stated ``Why is it right to
increase this Nation's dependence on foreign creditors? They should
explain this. Maybe they can convince the public they are right. I
doubt it, because most Americans know that increasing the debt is the
last thing we should be doing. After all, I repeat, the baby boomers
are about to retire. Under the circumstances, any credible economist
would tell you we should be reducing debt, not increasing it.''
The American people have sent a Republican majority to the House of
Representatives to reduce spending and put our country on a sustainable
financial footing. If I were to close my eyes and abandon my
principles, and vote yes to raising the debt limit I would allow
Congress to continue to spend the taxpayers' money with no clear plan
to reduce our long term debt. The problem in Washington is we do not
have a revenue problem--the facts are clear we have a spending problem
in Washington.
Mr. Speaker, I will not vote for this debt increase and I will not
vote for a debt limit increase unless all of the following criteria are
met, or included in the final bill that would aim to raise the debt
limit:
The United States Congress must pass a Balanced Budget Amendment to
the Constitution of the United States.
A failsafe trigger mechanism must be put in place that would
automatically cut spending if we reached a set percentage limit towards
hitting the debt ceiling. In other words, as Federal spending
approached the debt ceiling, once a certain level was reached,
automatic cuts in spending to Federal programs would be triggered,
ensuring that future Congresses and Administrations would not have to
consider raising the debt ceiling in the future.
Capping federal spending as part of the GDP at 18-20%.
The U.S. corporate tax rate is 35% at the federal level and 39% when
the average state corporate tax is included. The average rate in the
other industrial countries of the Organization for Economic Cooperation
and Development (OECD) is just 25%. Only Japan has as high a rate.
Businesses and corporations in the United States cannot succeed in an
environment where they are among the highest taxed in the entire world.
It is paramount that Congress lowers the corporate tax rate for
American businesses by at least 10% before any vote on raising the debt
limit is considered.
On May 14, 2011, the Wall Street Journal in article entitled ``What
if the U.S. Treasury Defaults?'' interviewed Mr. Stanley Druckenmiller,
the onetime fund manager for George Soros, regarding whether Congress
should immediately raise the federal debt. Mr. Druckenmiller pointed
out the grave danger if politicians give the government authority to
borrow beyond the current $14.3 trillion without any conditions to
control spending. He further went on to state that he was willing to
accept a temporary delay in the interest payments he is owed on his
United States Treasury Bonds ``if the results in a Washington deal to
restrain runaway entitlement costs.''
I cannot, and will not, be part of President Obama's, and more than
100 of my Democrat colleagues in the House of Representatives, mantra
that we need to raise the debt ceiling as a ``clean'' bill without any
fiscal reform. For
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without making meaningful attempts to reduce on every increasing
national debt, this would be a vote not on a debt ceiling but more a
debt recommendation.
The Congress would find themselves voting to increase the debt
ceiling again, and again, and again. Enough is enough! Washington needs
to stop spending money we do not have and not make our children and
grandchildren pick up the tab for our reckless financial behavior.
I am even pleased that then Senator Joe Biden agrees with my
thoughts, for in 2006, he stated: ``This is a record of utter disregard
for our Nation's financial future. It is a record of indifference to
the price our children and grandchildren will pay to redeem our debt
when it comes due. History will not judge this record kindly. My vote
against the debt limit increase cannot change the fact that we have
incurred this debt already, and will no doubt incur more. It is a
statement that I refuse to be associated with the policies that brought
us to this point.''
Vice President Biden, I stand with you and refuse to be associated
with the policies your Administration help precipitate, by spending
beyond our means, and will not vote to raise the debt ceiling.
Mr. DeFAZIO. Mr. Speaker, today's debt limit vote will fail to pass
because neither Republicans nor Democrats have made meaningful progress
on balancing the federal budget. The Republican 2012 budget makes
devastating cuts to transportation, education, ends Medicare as we know
it. Despite these cuts, they fail to balance the budget for three
decades. The Democratic 2012 budget would take even longer to restore
balance. Neither is a serious long term plan to restore fiscal sanity.
Today's vote was necessary to conclude the debt limit theatrics and
bring us closer to negotiating a comprehensive budget. Neither party
has the necessary votes to extend the debt ceiling without a bi-
partisan deal on the budget.
We need to pay our debts and obligations and I will be urging the
Republican leadership to tie future debt ceiling legislation to a
balanced budget amendment. I have long supported a balanced budget
amendment and had it passed in 1995, we wouldn't be in this mess. A
balanced budget amendment would force both sides to make some tough
decisions on both budget cuts and raising revenue.
Balancing the budget does not need to be a partisan issue. For
example, in his second term President Reagan increased taxes several
times to reduce the massive deficits created by the failure of supply
side trickle-down policies. Again in the late 1990s, Clinton and a
Republican Congress balanced a budget from 1998 to 2001 because they
compromised on both spending cuts and increased taxes.
With adoption of a balanced budget amendment Congress could balance
the budget in ten years. This begins with repealing the Bush tax cuts,
cutting the deficit in half. To reduce federal spending, Congress
should bring our troops home from Iraq and Afghanistan, cut antiquated
cold war weapons systems, and cut agriculture subsidies. Further cuts
can be made by eliminating special interest tax breaks and subsidies
for ethanol, big oil, and prescription drug companies. Finally,
Congress should continuously scrub the rest of the budget for further
reductions to ensure a balanced budget in ten years.
Mr. TERRY. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to oppose this legislation
raising our nation's debt ceiling by $2.5 trillion without any spending
cuts or attempt to balance our nation's budget.
The fact that we have reached the $14 trillion debt ceiling should
concern every American. Congress has to get our fiscal house in order
and everything needs to be on the table.
If we are going to have this debate, then let's bring everything to
the table. Any discussion concerning raising our debt ceiling needs to
include significant spending cuts, fiscal reforms to reduce the debt we
are leaving our children, and a balanced budget amendment.
We can't afford to continue the same path of spending more and more
taxpayer dollars and hoping our nation's debt will somehow go down. And
we certainly cannot afford another blind increase in America's debt
limit.
It is a fact of life. When you max out your credit card, you cut
spending and pay down your debt. It is time Congress does the same.
We have the chance to do the right thing, but this measure--raising
the debt ceiling without any attempt to curb spending--fell far short.
Mr. CAMP. I yield back the balance of my time.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the motion offered by the
gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Camp) that the House suspend the rules and
pass the bill, H.R. 1954.
The question was taken.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. In the opinion of the Chair, two-thirds not
being in the affirmative, the noes have it.
Mr. CAMP. Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.
The yeas and nays were ordered.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to clause 8 of rule XX and the
Chair's prior announcement, further proceedings on this motion will be
postponed.
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