[Congressional Record Volume 157, Number 1 (Wednesday, January 5, 2011)]
[Senate]
[Pages S19-S33]
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FILIBUSTER RULE
Mr. HARKIN. Mr. President, I have a resolution for myself, Senator
Durbin, Senator Mikulski, and Senator Shaheen, which I send to the desk
and ask for its immediate consideration.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will report the resolution by title.
The assistant legislative clerk read as follows:
A resolution (S. Res. 8) amending the Standing Rules of the
Senate to provide for cloture to be invoked with less than
three-fifths majority after additional debate.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
Mr. ALEXANDER. Reserving the right to object.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Tennessee.
Mr. ALEXANDER. Mr. President, I had a good discussion with the
Senator from Iowa. This is a longstanding proposal of his. He has
thoughtfully considered it. Even though I admire him, I do not admire
the proposal.
What we would like to do is let the Senator from Iowa make his
proposal. I will listen, and when he has made the proposal, I will ask
him to yield me a few minutes and we may have a little discussion back
and forth on the merits of the proposal. With that in mind, I object.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Objection having been heard, the resolution
will go over under the rules.
Mr. HARKIN. Mr. President, I am sorry my good friend from Tennessee
had to object, but I understand. We are going to engage for some time
now on the Senate floor in a discussion on the filibuster, something
that has been around a long time but which, in the last several years,
few years--I would not say ``several''--in the last 20, 30 years, has
gotten to the point where it has paralyzed the Senate and has paralyzed
the country.
I intend to make some remarks for a while. I appreciate my friend
from Tennessee and also my friend from Kansas who is here. I hope we
can engage in a nice colloquy and a discussion about this in a back-
and-forth way. I look forward to doing that. I do wish to take some
time to at least lay out my case, as I did 15 years ago--I am sorry, 16
years ago. On January 4, 1995, I submitted this same resolution. I was
a member of the minority party in the Senate for the first time in 8
years. When I first came to the Senate, the Republicans were in charge
and then the Democrats got in charge and then the Republicans got in
charge and then the Democrats got in charge and then the Republicans
got in charge and then the Democrats got in charge. Since I have been
here, since 1985, five times the Senate has changed hands.
I note that at the beginning of that Congress in 1995, the
Republicans outnumbered Democrats 53 to 47, the same majority-minority
ratio that exists today, just on the other side. Even though I was
opposed to the then-majority party's agenda, I submitted the
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same basic resolution to change the Senate rules regarding the
filibuster.
My plan would have ensured ample debate and deliberation. The stated
purpose of a filibuster is to have debate and deliberation. But it
would also have allowed a bill or nominee to receive a ``yes'' or
``no'' vote. Unfortunately, my proposal did not pass. It received 19
votes. My cosponsors were Senator Lieberman, Senator Pell, and Senator
Robb of Virginia.
I submitted my bill--and if you care to go back and read that debate,
it is the January 4, 1995, Congressional Record in the Senate. I saw an
escalating arms race, where each side ratcheted up the use of the
filibuster. That is what I called it then.
Sadly, in the intervening years, my prediction has been fulfilled.
The sad reality is that today, because of the indiscriminate use of the
filibuster, the ability of our government to legislate and to address
problems is severely jeopardized. Sixteen years after I first submitted
my proposal, it is even more apparent that for our government to
properly function, we must reform and curb the use of the filibuster.
The filibuster was once an extraordinary tool used in the rarest of
circumstances. When many people think of the filibuster, many times it
brings to mind the classic film of ``Mr. Smith Goes to Washington.'' It
is ironic that in 1939, the year Frank Capra filmed ``Mr. Smith,''
there were zero filibusters in the Senate. From 1917 across the entire
19th century--for 100 years--there were 23 filibusters in 100 years.
Indeed, through 1879, there were only four. From 1917, when the Senate
first adopted rules to end the filibuster, until 1969, there were fewer
than 50--less than 1 filibuster a year. Unfortunately, since then, the
number has skyrocketed.
The current concerns I raise are not new. The problem has become far
more serious. In 1982, my good friend and colleague, Senator Dale
Bumpers of Arkansas, said this about the filibuster: ``Unless we
recognize that things are out of control and procedures have to be
changed, we'll never be an effective legislative body again.'' That was
1982.
During the 2 years of that Congress, there were 31 filibusters as
measured by the number of cloture motions filed. In 1985, former
Senator Thomas Eagleton of Missouri remarked:
The Senate is now in the state of incipient anarchy. The
filibuster, once used, by and large, as an occasional
exercise in civil rights matters, has now become a routine
frolic in almost all matters. Whereas our rules were devised
to guarantee full and free debate, they now guarantee
unbridled chaos.
That was 1985, my first year here. But during that Congress there
were 40 filibusters.
Again, I wish to refer to the number of filibusters as a visual aid
to see what has happened.
As we go back to 88th, 89th, 90th, and on up, we can see the number
of filibusters escalating from less than 10 a year--4 or 5--up to
almost 140, 139. In 1994, former Republican Senator Charles Mathias of
Maryland said:
Today, filibusters are far less visible but far more
frequent. The filibuster has become an epidemic,--
An epidemic. That is former Republican Senator Charles Mathias--
used whenever a coalition can find 41 votes to oppose
legislation. The distinction between voting against
legislation and blocking a vote between opposing and
obstructing has nearly disappeared.
That was Senator Mathias of Maryland.
During that Congress, again right before I first submitted
legislation to modify the filibuster, there were 80 filibusters that
year. If I may quote myself, 1 year after Senator Mathias made his
statement about the filibuster, this is what I said in 1995:
It is used, Mr. President, as blackmail, for one Senator to
get his or her way on something they could not rightfully win
through the normal process. I am not accusing any one party
of this. It happens on both sides of the aisle.
I said that in 1995. Quoting myself from the Record:
Mr. President, I believe each Senator needs to give up a
little of our pride, a little of our prerogatives, and a
little of our power for the good of this Senate and the good
of this country. I think the voters of this country were
turned off by the constant bickering, the arguing back and
forth that goes on in this Senate Chamber, the gridlock that
ensued here, the pointing of fingers of blame. Sometimes in
the fog of debate, like the fog of war, it is hard to
determine who is responsible for slowing something down. It
is like shifting sand. People hide behind the filibuster. I
think it is time to let the voters know that we have heard
their message in the last election.
I said this in 1995.
They did not send us here to bicker and to argue and to point
fingers. They want us to get things done to address the concerns facing
this country. They want us to reform this place. They want this place
to operate a little better, a little more openly, and a little more
decisively.
I said that when the Republicans were in charge.
With all those filibusters, it was not until the 110th and 111th
Congress that the true scope of the filibuster abuse would truly be
realized. In the 110th Congress, there were an astonishing 139 motions
to end filibusters. In the 111th, there were 136--275 filibusters in
just 4 years.
The fact is, in successive Congresses, Democrats and Republicans have
made the filibuster an everyday weapon of obstruction, not as a way to
ensure debate and deliberation but as a way of obstruction. I say both
sides have done it. I said that in 1995. I predicted an escalating arms
race. I said: If we do not do something about it, it is going to get
worse--and, unfortunately, it has.
On almost a daily basis, one Senator is able to use just the threat
of a filibuster to stop bills from coming to the floor for debate and
amendment. In the past Congress, we started seeing the minority
filibuster bills they did not even object to solely in order to slow
down unrelated measures they did oppose. The result is a legislative
process that is simply overwhelmed, squeezing out the ability to do
important, relatively noncontroversial legislation.
It is no accident that Norm Ornstein, the esteemed congressional
scholar, wrote an article, titled ``Our Broken Senate,'' in which he
wrote that ``the expanded use of formal rules on Capitol Hill is
unprecedented and is bringing the government to its knees.''
Just the other day, I received a petition signed by nearly 300 top
historians, legal scholars, and political scientists urging Senators
``to restore majority rule to the United States Senate.'' I ask
unanimous consent to have this petition printed in the Record.
There being no objection, the material was ordered to be printed in
the Record, as follows:
January 4, 2011.
``We, the undersigned, American historians, political
scientists, and legal scholars, call upon our senators to
restore majority rule to the United States Senate by revising
the rules that now require the concurrence of 60 members
before legislation can be brought to the floor for debate and
restoring majority vote for the passage of bills.
Joyce Appleby, UCLA, retired; Katy Harriger, Wake Forest
University; Senator Gary Hart, University of Colorado,
Denver; Sanford Levinson, University of Texas Law School;
Lawrence Lessig, Harvard Law School; Peter Onuf, University
of Virginia; Jack Rakove, Stanford University; David RePass,
University of Connecticut, retired; John K. White, Catholic
University; Richard D. Lamm, Gov. of Colorado, 1975-1987;
Coit D. Blacker, Stanford University; James Gelvin, UCLA; H.
Robert Baker, Georgia State University; Darryl Holter,
University of Southern California; Robert Rapetto, Yale
University; David Orr, Oberlin College; Manuel J.R. Montoya,
University of New Mexico; Kathleen M. Beatty, University of
Colorado, Denver; Morton T. Tenzer, University of
Connecticut; David S. Tannenhaus, University of Nevada, Las
Vegas.
Robert H. Abzug, University of Texas, Austin; David H.
Hall, Harvard University; Carrie Menkel-Meadow, Georgetown
Law School, University of California, Irvine; Carla Gardina
Pestana, Miami University, Ohio; Michael Zucker, University
of Notre Dame; Thomas A. Foster, De Paul University; John
Kukla, Richmond, Virginia; Corey Robin, Brooklyn College and
City University of New York Graduate Center; David Thelen,
University of Indiana; T.H. Breen, Northwestern University;
Jonathan D. Varat, UCLA Law School; Michael Koppedge,
University of Notre Dame; Michael Johnson, Johns Hopkins
University; Toby L. Ditz, Johns Hopkins University; Teofilo
Ruiz, UCLA; Laurel Ulrich, Harvard University; Pauline Maier,
Massachusetts Institute of Technology; Anne Lombard,
California State University, San Marcos; Gabrielle M.
Spiegel, Johns Hopkins University.
Robert A. Hill, UCLA; Buie Seawell, University of Denver;
Edward Countryman, Southern Methodist University; Sara Berry,
Johns Hopkins University; Thomas Bender, New York University;
David Hollinger, University of California, Berkeley; Franklin
W. Knight, Johns Hopkins University; Lucia Stanton,
Monticello; Alan Trachtenberg, Yale University; Warren M.
Billings, University of New Orleans; James Drake,
Metropolitan State College of Denver; M. Gregory
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Kendrick, UCLA; Benjamin H. Johnson, Southern Methodist
University; Kenneth Karst, UCLA Law School; Robert
Johnson, University of Illinois, Chicago; Thomas S. Hines,
UCLA; Herbert Sloan, Barnard College, Columbia University;
Alexis McCrossen, Southern Methodist University; Ira
Berlin, University of Maryland; Fred G. Notehelfer, UCLA,
emeritus.
Gerald L. Weinberg, University of North Carolina; Richard
M. Pious, Barnard College, Columbia University; Thomas J.
Knock, Southern Methodist University; Michelle Nickerson,
University of Texas, Dallas; John Chavez, Southern Methodist
University; Gabriel Piterberg, UCLA; John P. Kaminski,
University of Wisconsin, Madison; Graham A. Peck, Saint
Xavier University; Jonathan Gross, De Paul University; Jean
R. Sunderland, Lehigh University; Dennis D. Cornell, Southern
Methodist University; James M. Banner, Washington DC; David
D. Leon, Howard University; Jeremy Adams, Southern Methodist
University; Fred M. Woodward, Lawrence, Kansas; Hal S.
Barron, Harvey Mudd College; Glenna Mathews, independent
scholar; Carol Karsen, University of Michigan; David DuFault,
San Diego State University, retired; Jess Stoddard, San Diego
State University, retired.
Philip Flemion, San Diego State University, retired; Gregg
Herken, University of California, Merced; Karl Inderfurth,
Center for Strategic and International Studies; Natalie Zemon
Davis, Princeton University, emeritus; Edward A. Alpers,
UCLA; John Snetsinger, California Polytechnic State
University, San Luis Obispo; Kenneth T. Jackson, Columbia
University; Margaret Jacob, UCLA; Simone Weil David,
University of Toronto; Margaret Hunt, Amherst College;
Charles Capper, Boston University; Ellen Carol DuBois, UCLA;
Olivier Zunz, University of Virginia; John R. Chavez,
Southern Methodist University; Joanne Ferraro, San Diego
State University; Mary F. Corey, UCLA; Joseph Kett,
University of Virginia; Ralph E. Luker, Morehouse College,
retired; Gregory L. Kaster, Gustavus Adolphus College.
Michael Kazin, Georgetown University; Jeremy Young, Indiana
University; James Brewer Stewart, Macalestar College; Mary
Beth Norton, Cornell University; Steven Conn, Ohio State
University; John Carson, University of Michigan; Ruth
Perry, Massachusetts Institute of Technology; Akhil Reed
Amar, Yale Law School; Peter Reill, UCLA; Robert E.
Bieder, Indiana University; Robert E. Mutch, Washington,
D.C.; Edwin G. Burrows, Brooklyn College; Jeffrey K.
Tulis, University of Texas, Austin; Fredrika J. Teute,
Omohundre Institute of Early American History and Culture;
Francis H. Stites, San Diego State University; Albert
O'Brien, San Diego State University; John H. Coatsworth,
Columbia University; Jack M. Balkin, Yale Law School;
Christopher Bates, California Polytechnic State
University, Pomona.
Iryne Black, Newport Beach, California; Timothy Black,
Newport Beach, California; Walter LaFeber, Cornell
University; Maeva Marcus, George Washington University Law
School; Isaac Kramnick, Cornell University; Michael Meranze,
UCLA; Ross Frank, University of California, San Diego; Ron
Hayduk, Queens College; Lucas A. Powe, Jr., University Texas
Law School; Paul Finkelman, Albany Law School; Stanley N.
Katz, Princeton University; Susan Strasser, University of
Delaware; Claudrena Harold, University of Virginia; Pauline
Maier, Massachusetts Institute of Technology; Jeremy I.
Adelman, Princeton University; Ann Heiney, Newport Beach,
California; Anthony Grafton, Princeton University; Charles S.
Maier, Harvard University; James Kloppenberg, Harvard
University; Trace B. Strong, University of California, San
Diego.
Jeffrey C. Isaac, Indiana University; Jay Driskell, Hood
College; Nancy Fraser, New School for Social Research; Ellen
Schrecker, Yeshiva University; Stephen W. Feldman, University
of Wyoming; Frances Fox Piven, City University of New York;
Alyson M. Cole, Queens College, CUNY Graduate Center; Thomas
Dunim, Amherst College; Joshua Freeman, Queens College, CUNY
Graduate Center; Hendrik Hartog, Princeton University; Rick
Perlstein, Chicago; Thomas Geoghegen, Desprese, Schwartz &
Geoghegen; John Majewski, University of California, Santa
Barbara; Anne Norton, University of Pennsylvania; Eric
Alterman, Brooklyn College, CUNY; Maximillian E. Novak, UCLA,
emeritus; Rogers M. Smith, University of Pennsylvania; Andrew
Sabl, UCLA; Carol W. Lewis, University of Connecticut.
Kate Wittenstein, Gustavus Adolphus College; Ruth Anne
Baumgartner, Fairfield University and Central Connecticut
State University; Ronald Walters, Johns Hopkins University;
Charles Venator, University of Connecticut; John R. Wallack,
Hunter College and CUNY Graduate Center; Herbert Kaufman,
formerly Yale University; Ed Edelman, former Los Angeles
County Supervisor; Peter Truowitz, University of Texas,
Austin; Ruth Bloch, UCLA; Catherine Allgor, University of
California, Riverside; David L. Richards, University of
Connecticut; Naomi Merzey, Georgetown University Law Center;
Philip Green, New School for Social Research; Robert Westman,
University of California, San Diego; Nancy Unger, Santa Clara
University; Joseph Lowndes, University of Oregon; Michael
Holt, University of Virginia; Neil Sapper, Armarillo College,
retired; Alan Lessoff, Illinois State University; Peter
Kingstron, University of Connecticut.
David Gerber, University of Buffalo, SUNY; Philip Rubio,
North Carolina Arts and Technology University; Philip Nord,
Indiana University; Aziz Rana, Cornell Law School; John R.
Bowman, Queens College and CUNY Graduate Center; Todd Gitlin,
Columbia University; Sandra Moats, University of Wisconsin,
Parkside; James M. McPherson, Princeton University; Jason
Frank, Cornell University; Charles Pastel, San Francisco
State University; Jill Lepore, Harvard University; Jane
Kamensky, Brandeis University; Alejandro E. Camacho,
University of California, Irvine Law School; Donald Kennedy,
president emeritus, Stanford University; Paul Seaver,
Stanford University; Geoffrey Symcox, UCLA; Leslie E. Gerwin,
Princeton University; Richard H. Kohn, University of North
Carolina; Michael D. Wilson, Vanguard University of Southern
California; Karl Manheim, Loyola Law School.
Berry M. Sax, Department of Defense Administrative Judge
retired; David Montgomery, Yale University; Michael Holt,
University of Virginia; Lisa Jacobson, University of
California, Santa Barbara; Walter Giger, Jr., University of
Hartford; Julie Novkov, University of Albany, SUNY; Denis Z.
Davidson; Adolph Grundman, Metropolitan State College of
Denver; Brian Balogh, University of Virginia; John A. Mears,
Southern Methodist University; Bennett Ramberg, Los Angeles;
Shanti Singham, Williams College; Steve Hochstadt, Illinois
College; Charles Tandy, Ria University Institute for Advanced
Study; Nancy F. Cotton, Harvard University; Jon Butler, Yale
University; Eric Thomas, Jacksonville University; Elaine
Tyler May, University of Minnesota; Jonathan McLeod, San
Diego Mesa Community College; Thomas Zoumaras, Truman
State University.
Michelle Mart, Pennsylvania State University, Berks; Mitch
Kachun, Western Michigan State University; Bill Chafe, Duke
University; Walter Nugent, University of Notre Dame; Lizabeth
Cohen, Harvard University; Judith Smith, University of
Massachusetts, Boston; Gary Gerstle, Vanderbilt University;
Elizabethy Cohgen, Syracuse University; Allen W. Trelease,
University of North Carolina, Greensboro; Tera W. Hunter,
Princeton University; James H. Merrell, Vassar College; Peter
Novick, University of Chicago; Craig Steven Wilder,
Massachusetts Institute of Technology; Seth L. Schein,
University of California, Davis; Jenna Gibbs, Florida
International University; Michael Latham, Fordham University;
Michael Green, College of Southern Nevada; Martin Kaplan,
University of Southern California; Valerie Matsumoto, UCLA;
Sanford M. Jacoby, UCLA.
Alexander Saxton, UCLA emeritus; Thomas J. Sugrue,
University of Pennsylvania; Thomas S. Hines, UCLA; Albion M.
Urdank, UCLA; James Grossman, University of Chicago; Lynn
Hunt, UCLA; Ron Pagnucco, College of St. Benedict, St. John's
University; David Konig, Washington University at St. Louis;
Brenda Stevenson, UCLA; Linn Shapiro, Washington, DC; Peter
Loewenberg, UCLA; Christian McMillen, University of Virginia;
Estelle B. Freedman, Stanford University; Daniel Howe, UCLA;
Ann C. McGinley, University of Nevada, Las Vegas; Mary La
France, University of Nevada, Las Vegas; Christopher
Blakesley, University of Nevada, Las Vegas; Thomas B.
McAffee, University of Nevada, Las Vegas; Robert Brenner,
UCLA; Gail Cline, University of Nevada. Las Vegas; George
Rabinowitz, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill.
Norton Wise, UCLA; Patricia Bonomi, New York University;
Jon Wiener, University of California, Irvine; Paul Finkelman,
Albany Law School; Joseph Miller, University of Virginia;
James MacGregor Burns, Williams College; Susan Dunn, Williams
College; Lori Anne Ferrell, Claremont Graduate University;
David Warren Sabean, UCLA; Isabel V. Hull, Cornell
University; Edward Ayers, Richmond University; Tom Donnelly,
Harvard Law School; Donald Kersey, San Jose State
University; Peter H. Wood, Duke University; Joseph Scott
Miller, Lewis and Clark Law School; Jonathan Lurie,
Rutgers University; Maxine N. Lurie, Rutgers University;
Elizabeth Fenn, Duke University; Richard Worthington,
Pomona College.
Richard Olsen Harvey, Mudd College; Thomas Zoumaras, Truman
State University; Anne K. Nelson, American University; Peter
Kuznick, American University; Howard M. Wasserman, Florida
International University; Diane Mazur, University of Florida
Levin College of Law; David K. Robinson, Truman State
University; John Wintterle, San Jose State University;
William Marotti, UCLA; Peter Brandon Bayer, University of
Nevada, Las Vegas; Stephen Aron, UCLA; Ediberto Roman,
Florida International State University; Mellisa Stockdale,
University of Oklahoma; David W. Levy, University of
Oklahoma; Elyssa Faison, University of Oklahoma; Robert
Savage, Florida International University Law School; Ronald
Steel, University of Southern California, retired; Robert
Dawidoff, Claremont Graduate University; Judith S. Lewis,
University of Oklahoma.
Steve Raphael, University of California, Berkeley; Robert
Garwin, Chula Vista, California; Ann Caylor, Ranchos de Taos,
New Mexico; Thomas McClendon, Southwestern University; Kim
Lane Scheppele, Princeton University; Ira Chernus, University
of Colorado, Boulder; Mark Cammack, Southwestern Law School;
Myra Rich, University of Colorado, Denver; Tim Borstelmann,
University of Nebraska, Lincoln; Sara Evans, University of
Minnesota, retired; Gowri
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Ramachandran, Southwestern Law School; Vicki Ruiz, University
of California, Irvine; Fay A. Yarbrough, University of
Oklahoma; Harry Watson, University of North Carolina, Chapel
Hill; Pamela W. Laird, University of Colorado, Denver; Gloria
Main, University of Colorado, Boulder, emerita; Thomas R.
Clark, California Assembly Judiciary Committee; Joshua Goode,
Claremont Graduate University; Marjorie Cohn, Thomas
Jefferson Law School.
Mr. HARKIN. Mr. President, last month, our former colleagues, Gary
Hart, a Democrat, and Chuck Hagel, a Republican, published an essay in
Time magazine calling on us to ``restore democracy to the U.S. Senate''
by reforming the filibuster. In their words, the abuse of the
filibuster ``is no way to govern a great democracy.''
I ask unanimous consent to have that essay printed in the Record.
There being no objection, the material was ordered to be printed in
the Record, as follows:
[From Time, Dec. 21, 2010]
Restoring Democracy to the U.S. Senate
(By Chuck Hagel and Gary Hart)
Few principles are as central to democracy and the ideals
of the American Republic as majority rule. Though James
Madison and his colleagues in The Federalist acknowledged the
necessity of protecting the rights of minorities, the course
of our nation was to be determined by the will of the
majority. No other system consistent with democracy would
prove workable.
There is nothing in the United States Constitution that
permits a minority to frustrate the will of the majority.
Yet in the early 21st century, the will of the majority of
Americans, expressed on a daily basis by our elected
representatives in Congress, is consistently thwarted by a
minority in the United States Senate. This minority resorts
to the Senate rule requiring a three-fifths vote--60 votes--
to close (invoke cloture on) debate.
Article One, Section five, of the U.S. Constitution
provides that ``Each house [of Congress] may determine the
rules of its proceedings. . .'' Based upon Thomas Jefferson's
notion that the Senate was to be the saucer in which
controversies cooled, Senators have, from the beginning, been
at liberty to express their views at such length as they
wish. (Jefferson, it should be noted, was the author of the
Manual of Parliamentary Procedures for the Use of the Senate
of the United States in 1801.) But the Senate has always
recognized that even the principle of unlimited speech has
its conditions based upon comity and common sense.
Yet today the Senate conducts its business, or not, under
the constant threat of a filibuster. Important legislative
measures having to do with the vital interests of our nation
and the rights of our citizens will not even be introduced if
a minority of Senate members refuse to permit them to be
considered. Thus, a rule to protect debate is systematically
used to prevent debate. Even worse, secret ``holds'' by
individual Senators prevent confirmation of federal judges
and administration officials.
Though the Senate filibuster rose to prominence during
civil rights debates in the 1950s and '60s, it ran its course
and the majority prevailed. Today, it is commonplace and a
matter of course for such a lock-step minority systematically
to prevent consideration of the clear majority will.
The Constitution prevails over congressional rules. Can it
be seriously argued that the Senate could adopt a rule that
individual Senators could only vote on every other bill or
that they could only vote on trade issues, for example, in
the fourth year of their term?
Rules of the Senate cannot trump the obvious intention of
the Founding Fathers that legislation passed by majorities of
both houses, except for the explicit exceptions for
ratification of treaties, becomes the law of the land. This
is not a partisan question; today the filibuster, real or
threatened, dominates virtually every significant issue
confronting the Senate and our nation. The law of political
payback will ensure that today's Senate majority, once it
becomes the minority, will exact its revenge on today's
opposition minority party.
Examples of recent abuse of the cloture rule include the 53
to 36 Senate vote to end tax cuts for the wealthy.
Regardless, the measure, like so many others (including an
earlier attempt to repeal the military's ``Don't Ask, Don't
Tell'' policy), failed under the threat of a filibuster.
These and other examples are clear violations of the
fundamental principle of majority rule.
This is no way to govern a great democracy, not to say also
a democracy seeking to democratize other nations.
We believe the abuse of the cloture rule ending debate is a
violation of fundamental Constitutional principles. Should a
judicial test of this notion occur, it will at the least
prove which of the current Supreme Court Justices are, or are
not, true ``originalists.'' Resolutions have been introduced
in the Senate to alter the cloture rule and permit majority
rule, while continuing to protect the rights of individual
Senators.
In the interest of the nation and the U.S. Constitution,
the Senate must once again become a democratic institution.
Mr. HARKIN. Mr. President, editorialists from across the country have
recognized the filibuster must end. The Concord Monitor of New
Hampshire called on the Senate to ``Remove the Senate filibuster
roadblock,'' noting, ``The filibuster rule has rendered the Senate
dysfunctional and harmed the nation's ability to deal with pressing
issues.''
The Los Angeles Times said `` . . . both parties should be willing to
eliminate such anti-democratic practices as the filibuster. . . .''
Editorials throughout the country have called for reform of the
filibuster. I ask unanimous consent to have printed in the Record these
editorials.
There being no objection, the material was ordered to be printed in
the Record, as follows:
[From the Concord Monitor, Dec. 17, 2010]
Remove the Senate Filibuster Roadblock
(By Anonymous)
On Jan. 5, 2011, the first day of the first session of the
112th Congress, Iowa Sen. Tom Harkin and other Democrats
promise to hold a historic vote to change the Senate's 60-
vote cloture rule. The vote to end the filibusters that have
made the Senate a place where needed legislation and
presidential appointments go to die could be the first of
Senator-elect Kelly Ayotte's career. How she votes will be
telling.
A super-majority voting requirement makes sense in rare
circumstances, ratifying a treaty for example or overriding a
presidential veto. But the filibuster rule is not in the
Constitution; it's an artifact that may have worked once but
has broken and jammed the Senate. When used judiciously, as
it was throughout most of its history, the filibuster rule
safeguards the rights of the minority. But when abused, as it
has been by Senate Republicans who have called for 87 such
votes to end debate so far this year, it creates a tyranny of
the minority.
There are divisions in both parties on the issue, in part
because there are dangers for both parties. Republicans are
currently filibustering to stop any and all legislation--and
will not vote to end debate until they succeed in winning tax
breaks for the nation's wealthiest citizens. Change the
filibuster rule--one proposal calls for a simple majority
vote--and Republicans will not so easily be able to block
legislation supported by the next session's 53-Democrat
majority. But if Republicans take the Senate in 2012--and
especially if there's also Republican in the White House--
Democrats could sorely regret their loss of the ability to
filibuster.
When, in his capacity as president of the Senate, Vice
President Joe Biden calls for the Senate to write the rules
governing the next session, Harkin and others believe that
they will have at least 51 votes. Some of them may come from
Republicans. The filibuster rule has rendered the Senate
dysfunctional and harmed the nation's ability to deal with
pressing issues. Ayotte should vote to change the filibuster
rule, so the Senate can once again be an effective
legislative body worthy of respect.
____
[From the Los Angeles Times, Dec. 28, 2010]
A nuclear Senate
The U.S. Senate, once proudly known as the world's greatest
deliberative body, has in recent years degenerated into
something else: The place where legislation goes to die. It
earned that distinction after Democrats won a majority in
2006 and Republicans took unprecedented advantage of long-
standing Senate rules allowing the minority to block
progress.
There's a good chance Democrats won't hold the majority
much longer, however. That's why both parties should be
willing to eliminate such anti-democratic practices as the
filibuster and the placing of secret holds on legislation.
And an opportunity to do so, which only comes along once
every two years, is about to arrive.
The filibuster originated in 1806, when the Senate
eliminated a rule that had allowed the chamber to end debate
by majority vote; in effect, that meant a senator or group of
senators could delay progress by simply talking incessantly.
But that hardly ever happened in the 19th century. It wasn't
until 1917 that the Senate decided to limit these stemwinders
by imposing a rule that debate could be ended by a
supermajority vote. Since then there have been some other
rule changes altering the vote threshold, along with frequent
arguments about whether the Senate should go back to its
original rule allowing debate to be ended with a simple
majority vote. We think it should.
Under the current system, senators don't even have to stand
up and speak until they're hoarse in order to filibuster a
bill; a party leader just has to refuse to allow a bill to be
brought up by unanimous consent, forcing supporters to find
60 votes in favor of a motion to end debate. Southern
Democrats were the first to seriously misuse this tactic
during the civil rights era, but Republicans have perfected
such abuse in the last three years. According to the good-
government advocacy group Common Cause, which once defended
the filibuster rule but now aims to eliminate it, 8% of major
legislation was affected by threatened or actual filibusters
in the 1960s, compared with 70% since 2006. The result is
gridlock, which will only get worse now that the balance of
partisan power is close to even.
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Secret holds are another serious problem. They allow
senators to anonymously block bills or confirmations of
presidential nominees from reaching the floor for an
unlimited time span, making naked obstructionism politically
safe. It's largely thanks to such holds that more than one in
10 federal judgeships remain vacant and federal departments
still lack key staff two years into the Obama administration.
Abuse of holds has become endemic in recent years, sometimes
allowing a single senator to take the entire chamber hostage
by placing holds on important legislation until backers agree
to support that senator's pet project.
The Constitution gives each chamber the power to choose the
rules governing its procedures at the beginning of the two-
year congressional session, slated this year for Jan. 5. So
why doesn't the majority simply do away with the filibuster
rule, or amend it? Because changing a long-standing rule
requires a two-thirds vote, an impossibly high hurdle. Yet
that supermajority rule may be invalid, as argued by then-
Vice President Richard Nixon in 1957: ``The right of a
current majority of the Senate at the beginning of a new
Congress to adopt its own rules, stemming as it does from the
Constitution itself, cannot be restricted or limited by rules
adopted by a majority of the Senate in a previous Congress,''
he wrote. This is the basis of the so-called nuclear option
(or as supporters prefer to call it, the ``constitutional
option'').
Sen. Tom Udall (D-N.M.) is leading a push to reform the
filibuster rules on Jan. 5, a fight joined by assorted good-
government groups and labor unions. Last week, all the
returning Senate Democrats sent a letter to Majority Leader
Harry Reid (D-Nev.) expressing frustration with the
filibuster and urging a change to the rules, though they
weren't specific about solutions (and it's unlikely many
would favor eliminating the filibuster entirely--most seem to
support weaker reforms such as a lowering of the 60-vote
threshold). In order to change the rules by a simple majority
vote, they would also need the backing of Vice President Joe
Biden, because as president of the Senate, the vice president
has traditionally ruled when constitutional questions about
procedures are raised.
Biden hasn't taken a position, and not a single Republican
has joined the effort. The apparent partisan split seems odd
given that it was Republicans who most recently brought up
the nuclear option when they were in the majority in 2005 and
Democrats were blocking President Bush's judicial nominees,
but a form of amnesia often sets in when a party is in the
minority. For conservatives, opposition is all the more
shortsighted given that twice as many Democratic-held seats
are up for reelection in 2012 as Republican seats.
Partisan fears about losing a cherished power have
prevented the Senate from going nuclear for decades, but
abuses of the filibuster and anonymous holds have never been
so rampant. The resulting dysfunction is a big part of the
reason Congress' approval rating has fallen to 13%, the
lowest in the history of the Gallup Poll. The chamber has a
chance to save itself from itself on Jan. 5, and it should
take it.
Mr. HARKIN. Mr. President, 275 filibusters in 4 years is not just a
cold statistic; it represents the minority blocking measures that
sometimes--not all the time but sometimes--enjoy broad support among
the American people. Just in the last Congress, the filibuster was used
to kill many bills that enjoyed majority and often bipartisan support.
Need I mention the DREAM Act? It had broad bipartisan support and big
support among the American people. There was the DISCLOSE Act, which
polls showed that over 80 percent of the American people supported. We
had a majority vote here for it, but we didn't have a supermajority. So
it is no surprise that Americans are fed up and angry with their
Federal Government. In too many critical areas, people see a
legislature that is simply unable to respond effectively to the most
urgent challenges of our time.
Make no mistake, the problem goes beyond the sheer number of
filibusters. This once-rare tactic is now used or threatened to be used
on virtually every measure and nominee, even those who may enjoy near
universal support. In the past Congress, for nearly 8 months, the
minority filibustered confirmation of Martha Johnson as Administrator
of the General Services Administration--certainly a relatively
noncontroversial position. She was ultimately confirmed 96 to 0. So
what was that filibuster all about? And for nearly 5 months, the
minority filibustered confirmation of Barbara Keenan to the Fourth
Circuit Court of Appeals. She was ultimately confirmed 99 to 0.
What was that filibuster all about?
Again, to quote Norm Ornstein:
The Senate has taken the term ``deliberative'' to a new
level, slowing not just contentious legislation but also
bills that have overwhelming support.
Secondly, the filibuster has increasingly been used to prevent
consideration of bills and nominees. Rather than to serve to ensure the
representation of minority views and to foster debate and deliberation,
by filibustering motions to proceed, the minority has been allowed to
prevent debate and prevent deliberation. The filibuster has been used
to defeat bills and nominees without their ever receiving a discussion
here on the floor of the Senate. In other words, the Senate, which was
formerly renowned as the world's greatest deliberative body, has now
become the world's greatest nondeliberative body. We can't even debate
important national issues.
That is why I fully support the commonsense proposals to reform the
filibuster and restore the Senate to a body in which issues can be
fully debated and deliberated. I support eliminating the filibuster on
the motion to proceed, and I believe those who are filibustering a bill
or a nominee should be required to come to the floor, hold the floor,
and make their case to their colleagues and the American people.
Senators should not be able to hide behind a curtain of secret holds.
The reality is, however, because of the filibuster, the minority has
unchecked veto power in this body.
Now, I want to make it clear, when I say ``the minority,'' I am not
talking about the Republicans; I am talking about the minority. It may
be the Democrats or it may be the Republicans. As I said, five times it
has changed since I have been--since 1985. When I say ``the minority,''
I mean the minority; I don't mean a political party.
This is what James Madison noted when rejecting a supermajority
requirement to pass legislation:
. . . it would no longer be the majority that would rule,
the power would be transferred to the minority.
Unfortunately, Madison's prediction has come true. We are the only
Democratic body that I know of in the world where the minority, not the
majority, controls. In today's Senate, American democracy is turned on
its head. The minority rules; the majority is blocked. The majority has
responsibility and accountability but lacks the power to govern. The
minority has power but lacks accountability and responsibility. This
means the minority can block bills that would improve the economy,
create jobs, and turn around and blame the majority for not fixing the
economy. The minority can block popular legislation and then accuse the
majority of being ineffective.
I repeat, when I say ``the minority,'' I am not saying Republicans or
Democrats; I am saying the minority, whoever it may happen to be. Both
parties have abused the filibuster in the past, and both will, absent
real reform, abuse the filibuster in the future. Although Republicans
are currently in the minority, there is no question that control of
this body will change, as it periodically does.
The fact is, reform is urgently needed. That is why I am
reintroducing my proposal which would permit a decreasing majority of
Senators over a period of days to invoke cloture on a given matter.
Under my proposal, a determined minority could slow down any bill.
Senators would have ample time to make their arguments and attempt to
persuade the public and a majority of their colleagues. This protects
the rights of the minority to full and vigorous debate and
deliberation, maintaining the hallmark of the Senate. But at the end of
ample debate, the majority should be allowed to act. There should be an
up-or-down vote on legislation or a nominee. As former Senator Henry
Cabot Lodge, a Republican, stated many years ago, ``To vote without
debating is perilous, but to debate and never vote is imbecile.''
My plan has another advantage. The fact is that right now, the
minority has no incentive to compromise. Not only do they know they
have the power to block legislation, but they can go out and campaign
on the message that the majority can't get anything done. In contrast,
if the minority knows that at the end of a period of time a bill or
nominee will be subject to majority vote, they will be more willing to
come to the table and negotiate seriously. Likewise, the majority would
want to compromise because they want to save time. There is nothing
more valuable to the majority party in the Senate than time.
So under my proposal, on the first cloture vote, you would need 60
votes.
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If you don't get 60 votes, you would have another vote in 3 days and
you would need 57 votes; in 3 more days, 54 votes; 3 more days, 51
votes. So the majority would finally act, but you would chew up almost
2 weeks of time. So on the first vote, let's say 53 Senators voted for
cloture. Well, the minority would know that in several days or maybe in
a couple weeks' time, 53 Senators will get cloture. The minority then
would go to the majority and say: Look, we can drag this out for a
couple of weeks, chew up all your time, but we have some things we
would like to have considered. The majority--and I say there is nothing
more important to the majority than time here--not wanting to spend a
couple weeks on a bill, on a cloture or a filibuster, would say: OK,
maybe we can make an agreement. We will collapse the timeframe, the
minority gets some of the things they want, and the majority is able
then to have a vote. So I see my proposal as a means of encouraging
compromise. Right now, there is no reason to compromise for the
minority.
Again, I am not talking about Republicans or Democrats; I say ``the
minority'' because they know they can absolutely block it.
I have changed my resolution since I introduced it in 1995, and I
have changed it because Republicans have said and I heard the minority
leader say earlier that they have done this because Democrats in the
majority--the majority this time--have employed procedural matters to
deprive the Republicans of the right to offer amendments. Well, I am
very sympathetic to this argument. That is why I included in this
resolution a guaranteed right to offer germane amendments to the
minority, filed in advance of the cloture vote so everyone would know
what was coming. Again, the minority should have the right to offer
some amendments that are germane to the bill. No matter who the
majority is, both parties are concerned about amendments from the
minority. Perhaps you have a bill dealing with housing and someone
wants to offer an amendment dealing with abortion. Well, there may be a
time and place for that but not on that bill. So that is why I say it
should be germane to the bill. If the minority has ideas to improve the
bill, strike something from the bill, that would be germane to that
bill.
I have heard it said--and I heard it on the radio this morning
driving in--that this is something like a power grab by a Democratic
Senator reacting to recent elections in which my party lost numerous
seats. Well, I want to make clear that the reforms I advocate are not
about one party or one agenda gaining an unfair advantage; it is about
the Senate as an institution operating more fairly, effectively, and
democratically. Again, I wish to point out that I first offered this in
1995 when I was in the minority. So to use the legal term, I come here
with clean hands. The truth is, with Republicans controlling the House,
any final legislation will need to be bipartisan with or without the
filibuster.
So I don't see reform of the filibuster as a Democratic or Republican
issue. Indeed, it was former Republican majority leader Senator Frist
who, when he nearly shut this body down over the use of filibusters on
a handful of judges, said:
This filibuster is nothing less than a formula for tyranny
by the minority.
That was in 2004, Senator Frist, the Republican majority leader at
that time.
Well, as I said, one of the problems here was this was done in the
middle of a term. See, I think the Senate ought to be able to set its
rules at the beginning, on the first legislative day, which we are in
now and which will extend for some time. The Senate ought to be able to
set its rules at the beginning of a Congress. You can't go changing the
rules every month, but you should be able to set the rules at the
beginning of a Congress so that you know for 2 years what the rules are
that you are operating under.
So it is time for the arms race to end. That is what this is--it is
an arms race. I daresay that if we don't do anything about this, if the
Republicans take control of the Senate, as they think they will in 2
years, well, Democrats are going to do the same thing to them.
Guarantee it. Guarantee it. The Republicans did--what did I say?--136
filibusters--139? Bet your bottom dollar, if we don't change the rules,
Democrats will match them. You wait and see.
Well, a lot of people sometimes say: Well, Harkin, what you are
advocating is the Senate would become like the House. I ask my friends
and any Senator on either side of the aisle, since when did the Senate
become defined by rule XXII, which is the filibuster? Why does that
define the Senate? I thought the Senate was defined by the fact that
you get two Senators from every State--two Senators from North Dakota,
two Senators from California, two Senators from New York, two Senators
from Iowa. I thought the Senate was defined by the fact that we have
unlimited debate. When a Senator gets the floor, you can't take it away
from him. We operate under unanimous consent. The power of one single
Senator would remain. But in the Senate, what do we do? We do treaties,
we do nominations, we sit in judgment on impeachments. The Senate is
not like the House. And just because we don't have the filibuster as we
have known it for the last 94 years does not mean the Senate becomes
like the House. Eliminating the filibuster will not change the basic
nature of the Senate. So I say to those who say the Senate would be
like the House if we did away with this filibuster, would they also
suggest that the Senate of Henry Clay or Daniel Webster or Lyndon
Johnson or Everett Dirksen was the same as the House of
Representatives? I don't think so.
The fact is, what was never intended was that a supermajority of 60
votes would be needed to enact virtually any piece of legislation or
for any nominee. In fact, the Framers of the Constitution were very
clear about where a supermajority is required. There were only five in
the original Constitution: ratification of a treaty, override of a
veto, votes of impeachment, passage of a constitutional amendment, and
expulsion of a Member. If they wanted to have supermajorities, they
would have said so. But it is not in the Constitution. The filibuster
is not in the Constitution.
The first Senate expressly included a rule permitting the majority to
end debate and bring a measure to a vote by moving the previous
question. I repeat: The first Senate--the first Senate--had a rule that
permitted the majority to end debate. Alexander Hamilton explained that
a supermajority requirement would mean a small minority could ``destroy
the energy of government.''
Hamilton said that the government would be subject to the ``caprice
or artifices of an insignificant, turbulent or corrupt junta.'' Those
are Hamilton's words.
Moreover, reform of filibuster rules stands squarely within the
tradition of updating Senate rules as needed to foster an effective
government that can respond to the challenges of the day. The Senate
has adopted rules that forbid the filibuster in certain cases, such as
the War Powers Act and the budget. Imagine that. What should be more
debatable than the budget? But our rules do not permit a filibuster of
the budget. So we passed rules here limiting the filibuster.
Since 1917, we have passed four significant reforms concerning the
filibuster. The fact is, as Senator Tom Udall has powerfully made
clear, article I, section 5, clause 2 of the Constitution specifies
that ``each House may determine the rules of its proceedings.''
As Senator Robert Byrd, who was opposed to filibuster reform--he and
I had a great debate back in 1995 on this--as he emphasized, and he
said this--Senator Byrd: ``At any time that 51 Senators are determined
to change the rule . . . that rule can be changed.''
I am reading here from what Senator Byrd said. He said at that time:
The Constitution in article I, section 5 says that each
House shall determine the rules of its proceedings. Now we
are at the beginning of Congress. This Congress is not
obliged to be bound by the dead hand of the past.
``The dead hand.''
I listened to the minority leader when he said we have--the majority
has never changed rules except by following those rules. The rules set
down by a Congress a long time ago, by a Senate a long time ago, said
that in order to change the rules, you need a two-thirds vote of the
Senate. I submit that is unconstitutional. I submit that this Congress,
this Senate, on this first legislative day, does not have to abide
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by that. What if, in some Senate, one party got 90 Senators one time,
and they adopted a rule that said that from here on out, you have to
have 90 votes in order to change the rules, here are the rules, and
they set up rules that pretty much made it impossible for the minority
to ever become the majority? Would that be constitutional? I don't
think so.
Senator Byrd said we are not obliged to be bound by the dead hand of
the past. The first Senate, Senator Byrd said, which met in 1789,
approved 19 rules by majority vote. Those rules have been changed from
time to time. So the Members of the Senate who met in 1789 and approved
that first body of rules did not for one moment think or believe or
pretend that all succeeding Senates would be bound by that Senate.
Here is the essence of what Senator Byrd said:
It is my belief--which has been supported by rulings of
Vice Presidents of both parties and by votes of the Senate--
in essence upholding the power and right of a majority of the
Senate to change the rules of the Senate at the beginning of
a new Congress.
I would say Senator Byrd has not been alone in his views or tactics.
The constitutional option has been endorsed by three Vice Presidents
and three times by the Senate itself. Why was it not used? Because
Senators then reached a compromise, and therefore we never had the
constitutional option. But that does not mean we cannot use that. The
Constitution is very clear. I think three votes of the Senate and three
former Vice Presidents have made clear in their rulings that at the
beginning of a Congress, we can set the rules.
Chief Justice John Marshall once said:
Any enduring Constitution must be able to respond to the
various crises of human affairs.
I said many times that I don't believe we can be a 21st-century
superpower bound by archaic rules of the 19th century. We have to have
a responsive government, responding to the challenges of our time.
I am not afraid. I say to my friends on the Republican side, I am not
afraid. What the minority leader said--he said that at some time the
Republicans might be in charge, and they might want to undo what the
Democrats did, and the Democrats better be careful. That was in his op-
ed piece in the Post this morning. I am not afraid of democracy. I am
not afraid of the votes of the people. If the people vote to put
certain conservatives in power, then they ought to have the right to
govern. They ought to have the right to respond to the people of this
country. The minority--I would be in the minority at that time--I think
the minority ought to have the right to be heard, we ought to have the
right to debate, we ought to have the right to amend, but we should not
have the right to totally obstruct. I am not afraid.
People say that the tea party in the House--they are going to do all
this stuff. I am sorry, I am not afraid. The people voted. There ought
to be things that happen because people vote a certain way. No wonder
so many people are frustrated. They vote, they think things are going
to happen, they don't happen, and they say: A pox on both your Houses.
So, yes, I don't know why we should be so afraid of each other. Why
should I be afraid that the Republicans are going to institute
legislation I don't like? They have in the past, and our country has
endured. I would say there are times when the Democrats have passed
legislation Republicans did not like and our country has endured. So I
just do not like this fear, that we have to be afraid that somehow the
majority is going to do things.
What we want to make sure of is that the rights of the minority are
guaranteed--the right to be heard, the right of the minority to offer
amendments. But I don't think it ought to be the right of the minority
to obstruct, and I don't think it ought to be the right of the minority
to demand that their views be implemented. That is the right of the
majority.
I close where I began, and I thank my friends for this indulgence. I
believe the bedrock of the principle of our Constitution, our Founders,
was majority rule with respect for minority rights. But I say this, and
I have said it many times. It is kind of the dirty little secret of the
Senate. And here is the dirty little secret: The power of an individual
Senator comes not by what he can do but by what he can stop. That is
the dirty little secret of the Senate. One Senator can stop something,
can block it. I say that each Senator--each of us needs to give up a
little of our privilege, give up a little of our power, give up a
little of our prerogatives for the greater good of this country.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Tennessee.
Mr. ALEXANDER. I thank the Senator from Iowa for his consistency over
the years with his proposal. I wonder if I can make a few remarks on
his proposal, and if he has time, if he is still here, maybe I will
pose a question to him. I see the Senator from Kansas is also here. He
spent a lot of time on the Rules Committee on this subject. He is one
of our most forceful speakers on the matter, and I would defer to him,
and then I know there are other Senators--the Senator from Oregon, the
Senator from New Mexico--who have some proposals to offer. There may be
other Senators on the Republican side who come to the floor.
First, I ask unanimous consent to have printed in the Record an
address I made yesterday at the Heritage Foundation entitled ``The
Filibuster: Democracy's finest show . . . the right to talk your head
off.''
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
(See exhibit 1.)
Mr. ALEXANDER. I borrowed those words from H.V. Kaltenborn and ``Mr.
Smith Goes to Washington.''
I am a little amused by the suggestion the Senator from Iowa made and
others made that somehow the Senate has been paralyzed for the last
couple of years. Most of the people I know are concerned about what the
Senate did do, not what it did not do. It is hard to say you are
paralyzed when you pass a $1 trillion stimulus bill, health care law,
financial regulation law, et cetera, et cetera.
As far as the claim that Republicans are holding things up goes, I
have a few comments. We did not have a budget last year. Most
households have to have budgets. The Senate ought to have one. Why
didn't we have a budget? It wasn't the Republicans holding it up. As
the Senator from Iowa said, under our rules, it only takes 51 votes to
pass a budget. During the last couple of years, the Democrats had 59 or
60 votes. So the reason we did not have a budget is because the
Democrats did not want to pass a budget, or at least that they did not
pass a budget. It had nothing to do with the Senate being ``broken.''
The Senator from Iowa made this Rules proposal in 1995. He has made
some modifications in his proposal but basically this is the same as he
offered in 1995. I remember those days pretty well. It was right after
the so-called Gingrich revolution, in 1994. Republicans took control of
the Senate and of the House of Representatives. The Senator from Iowa
made his proposal to diminish the effectiveness of a filibuster. What
did the Republicans do? The Republicans, had the most to gain--at least
temporarily--from being able to get their agenda through the Senate.
But every single one opposed the proposal. Every single Republican
Senator in 1995 said: No, we may love our agenda, but we do not want to
change the Senate. We don't want to jeopardize the Senate as a forum
for forcing consensus and protecting minority rights and letting the
voices of all of the people be heard on the Senate floor.
Not only the Republican Senators in 1995 had that opinion. Here are
some things that were said mostly in 2005 by Democratic leaders. There
were some Republicans who had the same idea the Senator from Iowa has
about diminishing the effectiveness of the filibuster. In this case,
they wanted to diminish the use of filibusters on judicial nominations.
There was great consternation because Democrats decided to filibuster
President Bush's judges. I didn't like that either. This is what has
been said by Democrats.
Senator Robert Byrd in his last testimony before the Rules Committee:
We must never, ever, ever, ever tear down the only wall,
the necessary fence, that this Nation has against the
excesses of the Executive Branch.
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What is that necessary fence? That necessary fence is anchored in the
filibuster.
Senator Schumer of New York in 2005:
The checks and balances which have been at the core of this
Republic are about to be evaporated.
This was in response to the Republicans who were trying to diminish
the effectiveness of the filibuster in 2005. ``The checks and
balances'' Senator Schumer said, ``which say that if you get 51 percent
of the vote, you don't get your way 100 percent of the time.''
Former Senator Hillary Clinton:
You've got majority rule. Then you've got the Senate over
here where people can slow things down, where they can
debate, where they have something called the filibuster. You
know, it seems like it's a little less than efficient. Well,
that's right, it is. And deliberately designed to be so.
Senator Dodd more recently:
I'm totally opposed to the idea of changing the filibuster
rules. I think that's foolish, in my view.
Senator Byrd:
That's why we have a Senate, to amend and debate freely.
Senator Dodd:
I can understand the temptation to change the rules that
make the Senate so unique and simultaneously so terribly
frustrating. But whether such temptation is motivated by a
noble desire to speed up the legislative process or by pure
political expediency, I believe such changes would be unwise
. . .
Therefore, to my fellow Senators who never served a day in
the minority, I urge you to pause in your enthusiasm to
change Senate rules.
Just two more.
Senator Reid, who was then the Democratic leader but the minority
leader, said in 2005:
The filibuster is far from a ``procedural gimmick.'' It's
part of the fabric of this institution that we call the
Senate. For 200 years we've had the right to extend the
debate. It's not procedural gimmick. Some in this chamber
want to throw out 214 years of Senate history in the quest
for absolute power. They want to do away with Mr. Smith, as
depicted in that great movie, being able to come to
Washington. They want to do away with the filibuster. They
think they're wiser than our Founding Fathers. I doubt that's
true.
Then there was one other Senator who spoke and who said this, the
Senator from Illinois, Senator Obama:
Then if the majority chooses to end the filibuster, if they
choose to change the rules and put an end to the Democratic
debate, then the fighting and the bitterness and the gridlock
will only get worse.
I think the last 2 years in the Senate have been an aberration. We
have had no incentive for the majority to take the ideas of the
minority because the majority had these huge majorities, nearly 60
votes here, and a Democratic President.
So when Senator Corker, my colleague from Tennessee, began to work on
the financial regulation bill, there came a time in the process where
the Democrats said: Well, you know, we like Corker, and he has got some
good ideas, but we do not need his vote to pass this bill. We have got
the votes. We won the election. We will write the bill.
So the Senate has had no consensus. Instead, we had a Democratic
financial regulation bill. We had a Democratic health care bill. We had
a mostly Democratic stimulus bill. We might have had one or two
Republicans vote for it.
For the last 2 years, we have not had any experience in working
across party lines. What the filibuster does is say, you are not going
to pass anything in the Senate unless at least some Republicans and
some Democrats agree. You will not pass anything unless you get a
consensus.
Then that will change behavior, and people say, okay, let's bring a
No Child Left Behind bill to the floor. But it has got to have the
support of Senator Enzi and Senator Harkin or it is not going anywhere,
because it has got to have 60 votes to move forward. What is the
advantage of that? The advantage of that is the comparison of the Civil
Rights bill in 1964, and the health care law of 2009.
In 1964, after a bitter fight led by Senator Russell of Georgia, the
Civil Rights bill passed the Senate, overcoming a filibuster. The bill
was written in the Republican leader's office. It was not just sent
over there in the middle of the night during Christmas, it was written
in his office. You had President Johnson, a Democrat, and Senator
Dirksen saying, this is good for the country. A lot of people hated the
bill. And some people thought it did not go far enough.
What did Senator Russell do, who had fought that bill for his whole
term here? He went home to Georgia and said, I did everything I could
to stop it, but it is the law, and we must obey it. So not only does
the Senate need a consensus to get a better bill, we need a bill that
the country will accept.
Compare that to the health care law in 2009. A lot of good intentions
went into the health care law. I know that. Senator Harkin was in the
middle of that, but the fact of the matter was that it was a Democratic
bill. It was rammed through Christmas Eve in the middle of the night.
We barely had a chance to look at the bill, and it passed with a solely
partisan vote.
And what happened? Instead of everybody going home and saying, it is
the law of the land, we support it, an instant movement was created to
repeal it and replace it. I hope we will not do what Senator Harkin
suggests. I think his proposal will create a situation where the
majority says: well, we are going to hang you, but we will hang you in
3 days instead of tonight. They will narrow it down until they can pass
a measure with 51 votes.
So if the Republican House of Representatives passes a bill to repeal
the health care law, then you know Senate Republicans would pass it,
too, if we have got 51 votes. Or if the Democratic House, as they did
last year, passes a bill to repeal the ballot in secret elections then
the Democrats over here will pass it, too, if they have 51 votes. But
when a consensus is required, if bills such as that come from the House
to the Senate, we in the Senate say, whoa, let's think this over. We do
not pass it. We do not pass it unless we have some kind of consensus.
That does not mean all the Republicans and all of the Democrats must
always agree. We had almost all of the Republicans and some of the
Democrats on the tax agreement that was passed in December. On the New
START treaty, we had almost all of the Democrats and some of the
Republicans support it. But in each case, at least you had substantial
consensus from both parties, and I think the country respects and
appreciates that.
I think the Framers knew what they were doing when they created a
majoritarian House, in other words, the freight train that can run
through whatever the result of election is. And when they created a
different kind of Senate. A different kind of Senate that Senator Byrd
eloquently has said has been one where we can say, you are not going to
pass anything unless we do it together. That is called consensus. That
is called cooperation. I think the American people would be greatly
relieved.
My question I wish to pose through the Chair to Senator Harkin is,
what is a filibuster? Senator Sanders was on the floor for several
hours on the tax debate last month. He spoke for 8 or 9 hours. I guess
that is a filibuster in the traditional sense. But I think the kind of
filibuster the Senator from Iowa is counting is this: let's say Senator
Reid brings a health care bill to the floor, and I rush over to offer
an amendment to the health care bill, and Senator Reid says: Sorry, I
am going to cut off your amendment. Then I object. Senator Reid calls
what I tried to do a filibuster.
If we are just talking and amending and debating, that is not a
filibuster. It is not a filibuster until the majority leader cuts off
debate and amendments. So what the Democrats are counting as
filibusters is the number of times they have cut us off from doing what
we are supposed to do, which is, amend and debate.
It is like being invited to sing on the Grand Ole Opry, and getting
there and you are not allowed to sing. The people of Tennessee do not
expect me to come up here and sit on a log just because the
distinguished majority leader says he does not want my amendments. What
was traditional in the Senate is that Senators could offer amendments
and debate, at almost any time, on almost any bill. In the days of
Senator Byrd and Senator Baker, they would have 300 amendments filed.
They would start voting. So some Senators would say, well, it is
Thursday, don't we go home? The Leaders would say no, we are going to
vote, unless you want to
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give up your amendment. Instead of doing that, we did not vote on one
Friday in the Senate this past year, and a lot of Senators on both
sides of the aisle do not want to vote on controversial issues. If we
look for consensus, if we were willing to vote on controversial issues,
and if we ended the 3-day work week, if the majority thinks the
minority is abusing the filibuster, they can confront it. They can sit
over there and they can say to us, okay, Senator Alexander, 60 of us
are ready to cut this off. We are ready to get on to a vote. So you
have got 7 hours that you can speak, then you have got to get 23 other
Senators to take the other hours. If you stop talking, we are going to
put the question to a vote, and we have got some motions we can make
about your being dilatory. In other words, we can make life miserable
for you, because we are going to do this all night long.
Senator Byrd said in his last testimony: The rules exist today to
confront a filibuster.
So my question to the Senator from Iowa which I would pose through
the Chair is: What is a filibuster? Is a filibuster when I come down to
the floor to amend the health care bill, and the majority leader says,
sorry, I am going to use my powers to cut it off? You cannot amend the
bill. And then he files cloture.
That is what he calls a filibuster, I think. What I call it is
cutting off my right to amend, right to debate, right to do my job.
Exhibit 1
The Filibuster: ``Democracy's Finest Show . . . The Right To Talk Your
Head Off''
(Address by Senator Lamar Alexander, Heritage Foundation, Jan. 4, 2011)
Voters who turned out in November are going to be pretty
disappointed when they learn the first thing some Democrats
want to do is cut off the right of the people they elected to
make their voices heard on the floor of the U.S. Senate.
In the November elections, voters showed that they remember
the passage of the health care law on Christmas Eve, 2009:
midnight sessions, voting in the midst of a snow storm, back
room deals, little time to read, amend or debate the bill,
passage by a straight party line vote.
It was how it was done as much as what was done that
angered the American people. Minority voices were silenced.
Those who didn't like it were told, ``You can read it after
you pass it.'' The majority's attitude was, ``We won the
election. We'll write the bill. We don't need your votes.''
And of course the result was a law that a majority of
voters consider to be an historic mistake and the beginning
of an immediate effort to repeal and replace it.
Voters remembered all this in November, but only 6 weeks
later Democratic senators seemed to have forgotten it. I say
this because on December 18, every returning Democratic
senator sent Senator Reid a letter asking him to ``take steps
to bring [Republican] abuses of our rules to an end.''
When the United States Senate convenes tomorrow, some have
threatened to try to change the rules so it would be easier
to do with every piece of legislation what they did with the
health care bill: ram it through on a partisan vote, with
little debate, amendment, or committee consideration, and
without listening to minority voices.
The brazenness of this proposed action is that Democrats
are proposing to use the very tactics that in the past almost
every Democratic leader has denounced, including President
Obama and Vice President Biden, who has said that it is ``a
naked power grab'' and destructive of the Senate as a
protector of minority rights.
The Democratic proposal would allow the Senate to change
its rules with only 51 votes, ending the historical practice
of allowing any senator at any time to offer any amendment
until sixty senators decide it is time to end debate.
As Investor's Business Daily wrote, ``The Senate Majority
Leader has a plan to deal with Republican electoral success.
When you lose the game, you simply change the rules. When you
only have 53 votes, you lower the bar to 51.'' This is called
election nullification.
Now there is no doubt the Senate has been reduced to a
shadow of itself as the world's greatest deliberative body, a
place which, as Sen. Arlen Specter said in his farewell
address, has been distinctive because of ``the ability of any
Senator to offer virtually any amendment at any time.''
But the demise of the Senate is not because Republicans
seek to filibuster. The real obstructionists have been the
Democratic majority which, for an unprecedented number of
times, used their majority advantage to limit debate, not to
allow amendments and to bypass the normal committee
consideration of legislation.
To be specific, according to the Congressional Research
Service:
1. the majority leader has used his power to cut off all
amendments and debate 44 times--more than the last six
majority leaders combined;
2. the majority leader has moved to shut down debate the
same day measures are considered (same-day cloture) nearly
three times more, on average, than the last six majority
leaders;
3. the majority leader has set the record for bypassing the
committee process bringing a measure directly to the floor 43
times during the 110th and 111th Congresses.
Let's be clear what we mean when we say the word
``filibuster.'' Let's say the majority leader brings up the
health care bill. I go down to the floor to offer an
amendment and speak on it. The majority leader says ``no''
and cuts off my amendment. I object. He calls what I tried to
do a filibuster. I call what he did cutting off my right to
speak and amend which is what I was elected to do. So the
problem is not a record number of filibusters; the problem is
a record number of attempts to cut off amendments and debate
so that minority voices across America cannot be heard on the
floor of the Senate.
So the real ``party of no'' is the majority party that has
been saying ``no'' to debate, and ``no'' to voting on
amendments that minority members believe improve legislation
and express the voices of the people they represent. In fact,
the reason the majority leader can claim there have been so
many filibusters is because he actually is counting as
filibusters the number of times he filed cloture--or moved to
cut off debate.
Instead of this power grab, as the new Congress begins, the
goal should be to restore the Senate to its historic role
where the voices of the people can be heard, rather than
silenced, where their ideas can be offered as amendments,
rather than suppressed, and where those amendments can be
debated and voted upon rather than cut off.
To accomplish this, the Senate needs to change its
behavior, not to change its rules. The majority and minority
leaders have been in discussion on steps that might help
accomplish this. I would like to discuss this afternoon why
it is essential to our country that cooler heads prevail
tomorrow when the Senate convenes.
One good example Democrats might follow is the one
established by Republicans who gained control of both the
Senate and House of Representatives in 1995. On the first day
of the new Republican majority, Sen. Harkin proposed a rule
change diluting the filibuster. Every single Republican
senator voted against the change even though supporting it
clearly would have provided at least a temporary advantage to
the Republican agenda.
Here is why Republicans who were in the majority then, and
Democrats who are in the majority today, should reject a
similar rules change:
First, the proposal diminishes the rights of the minority.
In his classic Democracy in America, Alexis de Tocqueville
wrote that one of his two greatest fears for our young
democracy was the ``tyranny of the majority,'' the
possibility that a runaway majority might trample minority
voices.
Second, diluting the right to debate and vote on amendments
deprives the nation of a valuable forum for achieving
consensus on difficult issues. The founders knew what they
were doing when they created two very different houses in
Congress. Senators have six-year terms, one-third elected
every two years. The Senate operates largely by unanimous
consent. There is the opportunity, unparalleled in any other
legislative body in the world, to debate and amend until a
consensus finally is reached. This procedure takes longer,
but it usually produces a better result--and a result the
country is more likely to accept. For example, after the
Civil Rights Act of 1964 was enacted, by a bipartisan
majority over a filibuster led by Sen. Russell of Georgia,
Sen. Russell went home to Georgia and said that, though he
had fought the legislation with everything he had, ``As long
as it is there, it must be obeyed.'' Compare that to the
instant repeal effort that was the result of jamming the
health care law through in a partisan vote.
Third, such a brazen power grab by Democrats this year will
surely guarantee a similar action by Republicans in two years
if Republicans gain control of the Senate as many believe is
likely to happen. We have seen this happen with Senate
consideration of judges. Democrats began the practice of
filibustering President Bush's judges even though they were
well-qualified; now Democrats are unhappy because many
Republicans regard that as a precedent and have threatened to
do the same to President Obama's nominees. Those who want to
create a freight train running through the Senate today, as
it does in the House, might think about whether they will
want that freight train in two years if it is the Tea Party
Express.
Finally, it is hard to see what partisan advantage
Democrats gain from destroying the Senate as a forum for
consensus and protection of minority rights since any
legislation they jam through without bipartisan support will
undoubtedly die in the Republican-controlled House during the
next two years.
* * *
The reform the Senate needs is a change in its behavior,
not a change in its rules. I have talked with many senators,
on both sides of the aisle, and I believe most of us want the
same thing: a Senate where most bills are considered by
committee, come to the floor as a result of bipartisan
cooperation, are debated and amended and then voted upon.
It was not so long ago that this was the standard operating
procedure. I have seen the Senate off and on for more than
forty years, from the days in 1967 when I came to the Senate
as Sen. Howard Baker's legislative assistant. That was when
each senator
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had only one legislative assistant. I came back to help Sen.
Baker set up his leadership office in 1977 and watched the
way that Sen. Baker and Sen. Byrd led the Senate from 1977 to
1985, when Democrats were in the majority for the first four
years and Republicans were the second four years.
Then, most pieces of legislation that came to the floor had
started in committee. Then that legislation was open for
amendment. There might be 300 amendments filed and, after a
while, the majority would ask for unanimous consent to cut
off amendments. Then voting would begin. And voting would
continue.
The leaders would work to persuade senators to limit their
amendments but that didn't always work. So the leaders kept
the Senate in session during the evening, during Fridays, and
even into the weekend. Senators got their amendments
considered and the legislation was fully vetted, debated and
finally passed or voted down.
Sen. Byrd knew the rules. I recall that when Republicans
won the majority in 1981, Sen. Baker went to see Sen. Byrd
and said, ``Bob I know you know the rules better than I ever
will. I'll make a deal with you. You don't surprise me and I
won't surprise you.''
Sen. Byrd said, ``Let me think about it.''
And the next day Sen. Byrd said yes and the two leaders
managed the Senate effectively together for eight years.
What would it take to restore today's Senate to the Senate
of the Baker-Byrd era?
Well, we have the answer from the master of the Senate
rules himself, Sen. Byrd, who in his last appearance before
the Rules Committee on May 19, 2010 said: ``Forceful
confrontation to a threat to filibuster is undoubtedly the
antidote to the malady [abuse of the filibuster]. Most
recently, Senate Majority Leader Reid announced that the
Senate would stay in session around-the-clock and take all
procedural steps necessary to bring financial reform
legislation before the Senate. As preparations were made and
cots rolled out, a deal was struck within hours and the
threat of filibuster was withdrawn. . . . I also know that
current Senate Rules provide the means to break a
filibuster.''
Sen. Byrd also went on to argue strenuously in that last
speech that ``our Founding Fathers intended the Senate to be
a continuing body that allows for open and unlimited debate
and the protection of minority rights. Senators,'' he said,
``have understood this since the Senate first convened.''
Sen. Byrd then went on: ``In his notes of the
Constitutional Convention on June 26, 1787, James Madison
recorded that the ends to be served by the Senate were
`first, to protect the people against their rulers, secondly,
to protect the people against the transient impressions into
which they themselves might be led. . . They themselves, as
well as a numerous body of Representatives, were liable to
err also, from fickleness and passion. A necessary fence
against this danger would be to select a portion of
enlightened citizens, whose limited number, and firmness
might seasonably interpose against impetuous councils.' That
fence,'' Sen. Byrd said in that last appearance, ``was the
United States Senate. The right to filibuster anchors this
necessary fence. But it is not a right intended to be
abused.''
``There are many suggestions as to what we should do. I
know what we must not do. We must never, ever, ever, ever
tear down the only wall--the necessary fence--this nation has
against the excess of the Executive Branch and the resultant
haste and tyranny of the majority.''
What would it take to restore the years of Sens. Baker and
Byrd, when most bills that came to the floor were first
considered in committee, when more amendments were
considered, debated and voted upon?
1. Recognize that there has to be bipartisan cooperation
and consensus on important issues. The day of ``we won the
election, we jam the bill through'' will have to be over.
Sen. Baker would not bring a bill to the floor when
Republicans were in the majority unless it had the support of
the ranking Democratic committee member.
2. Recognize that senators are going to have to vote. This
may sound ridiculous to say to an outsider, but every Senate
insider knows that a major reason why the majority cuts off
amendments and debate is because Democratic members don't
want to vote on controversial issues. That's like
volunteering to be on the Grand Ole Opry but then claiming
you don't want to sing. We should say, if you don't want to
vote, then don't run for the Senate.
3. Finally, according to Sen. Byrd, it will be the end of
the three-day work week. The Senate convenes on most Mondays
for a so-called bed-check vote at 5:30. The Senate during
2010 did not vote on one single Friday. It is not possible
either for the minority to have the opportunity to offer,
debate and vote on amendments or for the majority to
forcefully confront a filibuster if every senator knows there
will never be a vote on Friday.
There are some other steps that can be taken to help the
Senate function better without impairing minority rights.
One bipartisan suggestion has been to end the practice of
secret holds. It seems reasonable to expect a senator who
intends to hold up a bill or a nomination to allow his
colleagues and the world know who he or she is so that the
merits of the hold can be evaluated and debated.
Second, there is a crying need to make it easier for any
President to staff his government with key officials within a
reasonable period of time. One reason for the current delay
is the President's own fault, taking an inordinately long
time to vet his nominees. Another is a shared responsibility:
the maze of conflicting forms, FBI investigations, IRS
audits, ethics requirements and financial disclosures
required both by the Senate and the President of nominees. I
spoke on the Senate floor on this, titling my speech
``Innocent until Nominated.'' The third obstacle is the
excessive number of executive branch appointments requiring
Senate confirmation. There have been bipartisan efforts to
reduce these obstacles. With the support the majority and
minority leaders, we might achieve some success.
Of course, even if all of these efforts succeed there still
will be delayed nominations, bills that are killed before
they come to the floor and amendments that never see the
light of day. But this is nothing new. I can well remember
when Sen. Metzenbaum of Ohio put a secret hold on my
nomination when President George H.W. Bush appointed me
education secretary. He held up my nomination for three
months, never really saying why.
I asked Sen. Rudman of New Hampshire what I could do about
Sen. Metzenbaum, and he said, ``Nothing.'' And then he told
me how President Ford had appointed him to the Federal
Communications Commission when he, Rudman, was Attorney
General of New Hampshire. The Democratic senator from New
Hampshire filibustered Rudman's appointment until Rudman
finally asked the president to withdraw his name.
``Is that the end of the story?'' I asked Rudman.
``No,'' he said. ``I ran against the [so-and-so] and won,
and that's how I got into the Senate.''
During his time here Sen. Metzenbaum would sit at a desk at
the front of the Senate and hold up almost every bill going
through until its sponsor obtained his approval. Sen. Allen
of Alabama did the same before Metzenbaum. And Sen. John
Williams of Delaware during the 1960's was on the floor
regularly objecting to federal spending when I first came
here forty years ago.
* * *
I have done my best to make the argument that the Senate
and the country will be served best if cooler heads prevail
and Democrats don't make their power grab tomorrow to make
the Senate like the House, to permit them to do with any
legislation what they did with the health care law. I have
said that to do so will destroy minority rights, destroy the
essential forum for consensus that the Senate now provides
for difficult issues, and surely guarantee that Republicans
will try to do the same to Democrats in two years. More than
that, it is hard to see how Democrats can gain any partisan
advantage from this destruction of the Senate and invitation
for retribution since any bill they force through the Senate
in a purely partisan way during the next two years will
surely be stopped by the Republican-controlled House of
Representatives.
But I am not the most persuasive voice against the wisdom
of tomorrow's proposed action. Other voices are. And I have
collected some of them, mostly Democratic leaders who wisely
argued against changing the institution of the Senate in a
way that would deprive minority voices in America of their
right to be heard:
From Mr. Smith Goes to Washington
Jimmy Stewart: Wild horses aren't going to drag me off this
floor until those people have heard everything I've got to
say, even if it takes all winter.
Reporter: H.V. Kaltenborn speaking, half of official
Washington is here to see democracy's finest show. The
filibuster--the right to talk your head off.
Sen. Robert Byrd's final appearance in the Senate Rules Committee
SENATOR ROBERT BYRD: We must never, ever, ever, ever, tear
down the only wall, the necessary fence, that this nation has
against the excesses of the Executive Branch.
SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER: The checks and balances which have been
at the core of this Republic are about to be evaporated. The
checks and balances which say that if you get 51% of the
vote, you don't get your way 100% of the time.
FORMER SEN. CLINTON: You've got majority rule. Then you've
got the Senate over here where people can slow things down
where they can debate where they have something called the
filibuster. You know it seems like it's a little less than
efficient, well that's right, it is. And deliberately
designed to be so.
SEN. DODD: I'm totally opposed to the idea of changing the
filibuster rules. I think that's foolish in my view.
SEN. BYRD: That's why we have a Senate, is to amend and
debate freely.
SEN. ALEXANDER: The whole idea of the Senate is not to have
majority rule. It's to force consensus. It's to force there
to be a group of Senators on either side who have to respect
one another's views so they work together and produce 60
votes on important issues.
SEN. DODD: I can understand the temptation to change the
rules that make the Senate so unique and simultaneously so
terribly frustrating. But whether such temptation is
motivated by a noble desire to speed up the legislative
process or by pure political expediency, I believe such
changes would be unwise.
SEN. ROBERTS: The Senate is the only place in government
where the rights of a
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numerical minority are so protected. A minority can be right,
and minority views can certainly improve legislation
SEN. ALEXANDER: The American people know that it's not just
the voices of the Senator from Kansas or the Senator from
Iowa that are suppressed when the Majority Leader cuts off
the right to debate, and the right to amend. It's the voices
that we hear across this country, who want to be heard on the
Senate floor.
SEN. GREGG: You just can't have good governance if you
don't have discussion and different ideas brought forward.
SEN. DODD: Therefore to my fellow Senators, who have never
served a day in the minority, I urge you to pause in your
enthusiasm to change Senate rules.
SEN. REID: The Filibuster is far from A `Procedural
Gimmick.' It's part of the fabric of this institution that we
call the Senate. For 200 years we've had the right to extend
the debate. It's not procedural gimmick. Some in this chamber
want to throw out 214 years of Senate history in the quest
for absolute power. They want to do away with Mr. Smith, as
depicted in that great movie, being able to come to
Washington. They want to do away with the filibuster. They
think they're wiser than our Founding Fathers, I doubt that's
true.
FORMER SEN. OBAMA: Then if the Majority chooses to end the
filibuster, if they choose to change the rules and put an end
to Democratic debate, then the fighting and the bitterness
and the gridlock will only get worse.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Iowa.
Mr. HARKIN. I will respond to my friend from Tennessee who makes
cogent arguments, as he always does. He is a good friend of mine, and
we have worked together on a lot of things. I hope this is the
beginning of some colloquies we can have here. I do want to indulge and
let other Senators have their say because they were so kind to let me
have my say too. But I intend to be here as long as anybody wants to
say anything or to engage in some colloquies here on the Senate floor.
I say to my friend from Tennessee, that as I listened to him, and I
did very carefully, there are a couple of things I want to point out in
terms of this idea of a filibuster and being able to amend things. My
friend referred many times to the health care bill. I do not know if my
friend said this, but I have heard it said that we wrote it behind
closed doors and all of that kind of stuff.
Let me point out that when it came to our committee, the HELP
Committee, we had 13 days of markup, 54 hours. We allowed any amendment
to be offered. The Senator is a member of that committee. We allowed
any Senator on our committee to offer any amendment. We adopted 161
Republican amendments, either through some votes, which they won, or
through just adopting the amendments. Then after that, after all of
that, all Republicans voted no. That is fine. There are a lot of times
I know in the past when I have had an amendment on a bill which I
thought improved it, but overall I did not like the bill, and I voted
against it. I think that is the right of the minority. But then to
obstruct it and to try to obstruct it to keep it from even being
enacted I do not think is right. So I would say to my friend that I do
not think the health care bill is a good example.
I say to my friend, he quoted someone, I think maybe it may have been
Senator Reid, saying, do people think they are wiser than our Founding
Fathers. Please show me where our Founding Fathers ever set up a system
where the Senate could have unlimited debate? They never did that. It
is not in the Constitution.
As I pointed out, the first Senate actually had the motion, the
previous question, to cut off debate. And they did not set up a
majoritarian House. Article I section 5, I say to my friend from
Tennessee, article I, section 5 is very clear. Each House sets up its
rules. If the new majority in the House wanted to, they could set up
rules to be like the Senate. They could do that. They could set up
rules however they wanted, as long as they were constitutional. I
suppose someone could take it to court to see if it was constitutional.
But they do not have to operate under those rules. We do not have to
operate under these rules. The Constitution gives us the right to
change those rules.
Our Founding Fathers never set up this system, by the way, never.
There is no mention of it anywhere in the Constitution. They did not
set up a majoritarian House, they set up article I, section 5, which
said each House can set up its own rules. But then in the Constitution,
they outlined certain prerogatives. The Senate has certain
prerogatives, the House has certain prerogatives, such as, for example,
all bills of revenue have to originate in the House, not in the Senate.
Treaties are done by the Senate, not by the House. But they never set
up any kind of majoritarian type of thing.
I say to my friend, on the filibuster, I think there is a reason for
a filibuster. I think there ought to be filibusters. I think there
ought to be times when the minority can slow down things in order to
get their views heard, or in order for them to be able to offer
amendments, to make the bill better, in their views. That is the right
of the minority.
I do not think it is the right of any minority--I say minority. When
I say that, I am not talking about Republicans. I am saying any
minority here. I do not think it is the right of any minority here to
say, if I do not get my way, I am going stop everything. That is kind
of what I see happening around here. If I do not get my way, one
Senator can stop things.
I point out one other bill, I say to my friend from Tennessee, that I
thought was a great bipartisan bill. We worked hard on it in our
committee. The Senator from Tennessee was instrumental. That was the
food safety bill. We reported it out of our committee a year ago in
November, unanimous vote. Everyone voted for it, Republicans and
Democrats on our committee. We got it out. But there were some things
in the bill that Senators not on our committee, and maybe one Senator
on our committee, did not like. So we had to work through the ensuing
months to get everybody onboard and to work it out, which is fine. I
have no problems with that. That is the legislative process. I have
patience. As my friend from Kansas knows, I have a lot of patience
working on farm bills. They take time.
But we worked it all out. And yet one Senator, one Senator who really
disagreed with it, was able to hold it up from coming on the floor. We
finally got it on the floor, but it took almost a year. One Senator was
able to do that.
So I say, one Senator should be able to have the right to offer
amendments, to be heard, but not to stop everything. I guess that is
what I come down to, I say to my friend from Tennessee, that there
ought to be a--I think there is a reason and a good reason for the
Senate to be that saucer that cools things down, the story about
Jefferson and Washington. But it should be at some point in time where
the majority has not only the authority but the power to act after a
due consideration and a due period of time.
I believe, I say to my friend in all sincerity, that will promote
more compromise than the present system. You may disagree, but I feel
that would. I am not trying to take away compromise. I believe in
compromise. I believe in working things out. As chairman of the
Agriculture Committee for two farm bills, we worked things out. I am
sure there were things in the farm bill that the Senator from Kansas
did not like, and there were things in there that I did not like, even
though I was chairman. But you work these things out. You compromise
and you get things done. So I believe in that spirit of compromise. But
I think what we have here now--and that escalating arms race--is doing
away with that spirit of compromise and working things out and moving
things. That is why I think we have to change the rules.
I do not know if I adequately responded to my friend from Tennessee,
but these were my thoughts at the end. I am looking forward to other
comments from other Senators and engaging in our colloquies. I promise
I will not take so long.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Kansas.
Mr. ROBERTS. Mr. President, I thank my colleagues for their pertinent
remarks.
The Senator from Iowa said in the past he had entered into a colloquy
with colleagues on our side of the aisle where they wandered over into
each other's pastures. I am going to put down this microphone for a
moment and speak from here in a gesture of bipartisanship on how we can
improve the Senate.
I know we have heard a lot of talk about Robert C. Byrd, a beloved
individual. I know the Presiding Officer
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was very close to the former Senator. The last time Bob Byrd spoke
publicly was in the rules committee, when he rose to the occasion in a
very passionate way. The chairman, of course, Chuck Schumer, the
Senator from New York, with great deference recognized Senator Byrd. We
were all on the edge of our chairs. The Senator from Tennessee has
already gone over what Senator Byrd said at that time and previously.
But I remember when I first came to the Senate, it was required that we
go to school, so to speak, and Senator Byrd talked to all of the
freshmen at that particular time.
The keeper of the institutional flame was the tag I put on Senator
Byrd. My wife Franki and I became very close friends of the Senator. At
any rate, he recounted the story attributed to Jefferson and
Washington, he would tell every incoming class about the role of the
people's House and perhaps what happened, when they put the coffee pot
on in regards to legislation, that the coffee was so hot it would boil
over, and it was the Senate's duty to act as the saucer, as folks did
back in West Virginia in the earlier days, or Kansas or Iowa or
Tennessee or Texas, that they would pour the coffee out in the saucer
and let it cool off a little bit so they could put their biscuit in it
and actually eat it, and then the legislation would pass.
The problem is, sometimes on our side maybe we want tea, maybe we
want to start over. I think the Senator from Tennessee basically hit
the nail on the head with the massive three. If we are going to talk
about getting things done or not getting things done, there are three
massive things that have happened with regard to legislation. I say
``massive'' because they were so overreaching, so overwhelming, we are
now just learning what their implications are. The massive three are
financial regulatory reform, the health care act, and the stimulus.
Now the health care act, I have a personal feeling about that in that
I had 11 amendments, all on rationing.
By the way, the Senate never confirmed the nomination of Dr. Donald
Berwick, the head of CMS, the Center for Medicare and Medicaid
Services. We planned to ask a lot of questions to the doctor because of
statements he made in the past. Obviously, that confirmation did not
happen. He was a recess appointment. That is something I think we ought
to deal with as well.
Now, the health care act, it was 12:30 in the morning in the Finance
Committee. I had several amendments, all on rationing. Finally, we got
to the last two. I said: Why don't we consider them en bloc? I had
about a minute or two to explain each amendment. They were voted down
automatically on a party-line vote. By the time we got to 12:30 or 1
o'clock and my amendments, I noticed Senator Schumer was in the room so
I stuck on one of his amendments along with mine. It was defeated on a
party-line vote. Then I let Senator Schumer know that we had defeated
his amendment as well. He wasn't too happy with that.
I just showed that the process has broken down to the point that even
in committee, if you had two amendments, if you had five, if you had
one, you were simply ignored. Then the health care act came to the
floor and worked its way. I think the Senator from Tennessee brought up
the ``Grand Ole Opry.'' I saw it as making a bill behind closed doors.
That is a famous country western song. We didn't like that process at
all.
I finally had only one other recourse and that was to go to the
reconciliation process, which I knew was not going to be successful,
but I had several amendments, all were defeated. My main concerns about
the health care bill were not allowed, as far as I was concerned, on
the floor of the Senate, and that has happened a lot.
Now we are seeing an effort to repeal the health care act and also an
effort to try to fix it, if we possibly can. I am not as upset about
that as some people are because I think we could get the proper kind of
debate, but the debate must proceed in regular order and under the
standing rules of the Senate as a continuing body.
I am not going to go into the quotes by Senator Byrd. That has
already been done by Senator Alexander. But I would like to quote
Senator Dodd in his valedictory speech.
The history of this young democracy, the Framers decided,
should not be written solely in the hand of the majority.
This isn't about the filibuster. That is the most important statement
he made.
What will determine whether this institution works or not
is whether each of the 100 Senators can work together.
How can we do that? Here is a classic example. Right before
Christmas, there were several bills the majority wanted to pass without
allowing the minority and the American people the right to debate or
amend them. So the tree was filled, and that is the parliamentary
language to say: I am sorry, we are going to cut off debate. In the
first three years and four months of this majority, the use of filling
the tree went up over 300 percent compared to the average for the
previous 22 years. Ninety-eight times in the 110th Congress, cloture
was filed the moment the question was raised on the floor. A debate was
not even allowed to take place. So on one hand you can talk about
filibusters; the other hand is filling the tree, or not allowing
Members to offer amendments, and same day clotures.
The Senator from Tennessee offered the classic example. Let's go back
to a few days ago, right before Christmas. The DREAM Act was a House
bill. I know the Senate leadership wanted to pass it. It never had a
legislative hearing in the House, never had a markup in the House. The
Senate version of the DREAM Act had not had a markup since 2003. In
sum, the DREAM Act, a controversial measure with very passionate
beliefs on both sides of the aisle and within the parties as well had
not had an amendment offered to it in either House of Congress either
in committees or on the floor.
Some may believe the DREAM Act is perfect or certainly is the best
bill possible and would not need any amendments to improve it. But,
obviously, our constituents don't feel that way. It is a very
controversial bill. Instead of addressing their concerns, the majority
shut down debate and amendments and in the process shut down the rights
of Americans to be heard. As a result, the minority refused to end
debate and, obviously, there was a filibuster. It would be interesting
to know, of the times that bills have been filibustered, what was being
filibustered.
Contrast this with the approach taken on the 9/11 bill which the
majority sought to pass just a few days later. The goal of providing
help to the victims of 9/11 is one Members of both parties share, but
Senate Republicans noted that the particular version of the bill Senate
Democrats supported was problematic in regards to how much money we
were spending and certainly would need improvement.
So we insisted on having our concerns addressed. Most of them were
addressed with a revised bill on which we did provide input. That bill
passed the Senate by unanimous consent, and even the proponents of the
original legislation would admit that the final bill is a better one
and now enjoys broader support due to the minority's input.
What I think the majority needs to do is involve the minority like it
did on the 9/11 bill, not shut us out, not shut us down as it did on
the DREAM Act and other acts.
If that happened, if we did not fill the tree, I think possibly 75
percent, 80 percent of the filibusters would go away. There are some
who would like to filibuster anything, I know. But it gets back to what
the Senator asked: Why are we here? It is important to pass
legislation. But it is equally important to prevent bad legislation
from passing or, if you have an alternative you would like to offer, to
at least have the ability to do so.
In the last 2 years that process has simply broken down. Why can't we
work together? That is what Senator Dodd said. He asked whether each of
the 100 Senators can work together. That was on the question of
filibusters.
We can stop this business of secret holds. It seems to me we could
have a timely pace on nominations. It seems to me we could certainly
end these recess appointments where people who should be confirmed have
to go through the confirmation process instead of all of a sudden
parachuting somebody in who is controversial and now we have over
100,000 regulations pouring out of the Department of HHS. Health care
providers throughout the Nation--in Iowa, Tennessee, Kansas--are
wondering what on Earth is happening.
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When I go home, I don't get the question of why a bill didn't pass. I
get the question: What on Earth are you guys doing back there passing
all the legislation with all the regulatory stuff that I have to put up
with, taxes I have to pay, et cetera, et cetera?
As a matter of fact, when they pose that question, I say: I am not a
you guy; I am an us guy. Then we have a debate, but it is a debate that
should have taken place on the floor of the Senate instead of on the
plains of Kansas. Unfortunately, because of the majority, we were not
able to have that debate here, on the floor.
The question I have for the distinguished Senator from Iowa--and I
appreciate his reference to our work in previous farm bills. We were
able to work it out. Sometimes it was very contentious, and sometimes
the farm bill would come to the floor, and it would take a week and a
half. Then we would have an appropriations bill, and then the
appropriators would think they could rewrite the farm bill and take
another week and a half. But we worked through it. Nobody filled the
tree and said: I am sorry, you can't have that amendment.
I am making a speech instead of asking the question. I apologize for
that.
I am in agreement on secret holds. I think there should be timely
pace on nominations. I do think we should go through the regular
confirmation process.
But I do feel exactly as the Senator from Tennessee has put out, that
once you get on this business of ending the filibuster or going down on
the number of requisite votes, you are on a slippery slope, and then
you are into the tyranny of the majority, and that is not what the
Senate is all about.
I will stop at this point and ask the Senator from Iowa if he has any
comments.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mrs. McCaskill). The Senator from Iowa.
Mr. HARKIN. Madam President, I thank my friend from Kansas. I think
he makes some good points.
I would say to my friend, I think we ought to go through processes in
our committees to have hearings on nominees to flush out things such as
that. So to that extent, the Senator from Kansas is right. We should
not have, especially if there is any controversy at all--I suppose some
of them are noncontroversial--but if there is some controversy out
there, yes, I think the committees ought to have the responsibility to
bring them forward. Let the committees question them. We did that in
our HELP Committee, I say to my friend from Kansas. I am trying to
remember the person we had--oh, a lot of controversy about Craig
Becker, I think, who was going to the NLRB.
Mr. ROBERTS. If the Senator will yield, I think the Senator is
exactly right. I am on the HELP Committee, as the Senator may recall,
and I was trying to get one amendment to say that we would prohibit the
use of rationing to achieve cost containment, and it involved several
of the commissions that have been in the bill. I regret that bill sort
of sat somewhere and collected dust. We never got a score. I thought it
was, quite frankly, a better bill than the one in the Finance
Committee.
I say to the Senator, you recognized me, and I had an opportunity to
offer some amendments. At least there was some debate. And I think it
was a much more bipartisan effort. So I give the chairman----
Mr. HARKIN. If it was out of our committee, obviously it was a better
bill than coming out of the Finance Committee. But I say to my friend,
again, that----
Mr. ROBERTS. Senator Cornyn wants to be heard, so I am going to be
quiet and listen to you.
Mr. HARKIN. I thought there were some things we should talk about. I
say to my friend, in listening to my friend from Kansas say this, it
occurred to me that certain of his amendments were allowed. The Senator
was allowed to debate them and offer them, but they were not adopted.
It seems to me, as I have said before, the right of the minority ought
to be to offer amendments, to have them considered, to have them voted
on, but it does not mean it is the right of the minority to win every
time on those amendments.
I say to my friend, on that financial services bill, I had an
amendment too and I could not get it in. I was on the majority side,
and they would not let me offer one either. So both sides have some
legitimate points.
I also say to my friend from Kansas, and others, we can get into this
tit for tat, who started it. I think we have to kind of quit that. I
could come back and say: Well, yes, in the last 2 years, the tree was
filled 44 times. In this last session, 44 times the tree was filled,
but there were 136 filibusters. Why wouldn't there be 44 filibusters?
Why were there 136? We can get into that tit for tat, who did what to
whom. I wish to forget about all that. We could go back, probably, to
the 18th century--tit for tat, who did what to whom at some point in
time.
I ask my friend from Kansas, who has been here a long time--we served
together in the House; my friend was chairman of the Agriculture
Committee in the House. We have done a lot of legislation together--
does my friend from Kansas feel the Senate is operating today in the
best possible way? Does my friend from Kansas believe there could be
some things done to make the Senate operate a little bit more openly
and fairly with rights for the minority to be protected but without
letting the minority--and I do not mean Republicans when I say
``minority,'' I mean whoever happens to be in the minority--to keep the
minority from obstructing things? Does my friend feel there could be
some changes made?
Mr. ROBERTS. I will answer the question, no. I do not think we are
doing the job we could do, and we should do better, and I stand ready
to work with all concerned to see if we can do that.
But my time is up, and I am going to cease here and allow the Senator
from Texas to be recognized.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Texas is recognized.
Mr. CORNYN. Madam President, may I inquire how much more time there
is on our side?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Three-and-a-half minutes.
Mr. CORNYN. Madam President, I am going to ask unanimous consent,
with the indulgence of my colleagues, to allow me to speak for up to 10
minutes. I probably will speak about 5 minutes or so, unless I get
particularly wound up, which could take 10 minutes. But I ask unanimous
consent for an additional 10 minutes.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. CORNYN. I thank the Chair.
Madam President, I think we are playing with fire when we talk about
amending the Senate rules. All of us have been here for different
periods of time. I have been here for 8 years, which actually sounds
like a long time, but in the life of the Senate is not very long at all
in an institution that has existed for more than 200 years.
I have been here when our side was in the majority. As a matter of
fact, we had the White House, we had both Houses of Congress. And I
have been here when we have had President Obama in the White House and
Democrats controlling both Houses of Congress. I can tell you,
unequivocally, it is a whole lot more fun to be here when you are in
the majority.
But there are certain temptations that the majority has which I think
are exacerbated when, for example, during most of the last 2 years, one
party or the other has the ability in the Senate to basically pass
legislation by essentially a party-line vote; in other words, as I
recall on that morning at 7 a.m. on Christmas Eve a year ago, when the
vote on the health care bill came up where all 60 Democrats voted for
the bill and no Republicans voted for the bill.
My point being: The temptation is, when you have such a large
majority--60 or more--there is a huge temptation in both parties--not
just the Democrats; Republicans, I am sure, would be tempted as well--
to try to go it alone. Thus, I think it detracts from what is one of
the great strengths of this institution, which is that this
institution's rules force consensus, and unless there is consensus,
things do not happen. We are, thus, the saucer that cools the tea from
the cup, and all the various analogies we have heard.
But the important thing is not how this affects us as individual
Senators. This is not just an abstract discussion about the rules. This
is about what is in the best interests of a country of
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more than 300 million people. I would submit any time one party or the
other is not only tempted but yields to that temptation to go it alone
to try to push legislation through without achieving that consensus, I
think it hurts the institution and I think it provokes a backlash, much
as we saw on November 2. Because the American people understand that
checks and balances are important.
When we do not have checks and balances, either through the self-
restraint of the majority or through recognizing the rights of the
minority to offer amendments, to have debates, to contribute to
legislation, then the American people are going to fix that by changing
the balance of power, as they did on November 2.
Here again, I do not want to be misunderstood as making a partisan
argument. I think Republicans would be just as tempted as Democrats to
do the same thing. But I think that is where we have to show self-
restraint and where, if we do not show self-restraint, then the
American people will change the balance of power and establish those
checks and balances.
Here again, I think for most people who are listening--if there is
anyone listening out there on C-SPAN or elsewhere to this debate--this
should not be about us. This should not be about the arcana of these
rules. This should be about the rights of the American people to get
legislation that affects all 300-plus million of us debated, amended,
in a way to try to achieve that consensus and, thus, achieves broad
support by the American people. Because anytime, again, we yield to the
temptation to go it alone to do things on a partisan basis, it will
ultimately provoke the kind of backlash we have seen over the health
care bill, to mention one example.
This is not a small thing. I have the honor of representing 25
million people in the Senate, and this is not just about my rights as
an individual Senator or even the minority's rights, this is about
their right--their right to be heard through an adequate time for
debate, their right to have an opportunity to change or amend
legislation, and then to have a chance to have it voted on.
I understand the frustration of our colleagues when the majority
leader, due to his right of prior recognition, can get the floor. He
can put something on the Senate calendar that has not gone through a
committee markup and that sort of due process and fair opportunity for
amendment and participation; and then again, if he has 60 votes on his
side to be able to push it through, then deny us any opportunity to
offer amendments, much less to have a fulsome debate on these important
issues.
I think our country suffers from that. I think the American people
suffer when we are denied on their behalf an opportunity to have a
fulsome debate and to offer amendments.
I do not doubt the good faith of our colleagues who are offering some
of these propositions. There are even some of them that I find somewhat
attractive. The idea of secret holds, for example--if there ever was a
time for that, that time is long past gone. I know we are not going to
agree on everything. But we ought to at least have an opportunity for
everyone to be heard, and for individual Senators' rights to be
respected, not because they are Senators but because they represent a
large segment of the American people, and it is their rights that are
impinged when the majority leader, for whatever reason, decides to deny
a Senator a right to offer an amendment and a right to have a fulsome
debate on the amendment in the interest of getting legislation passed.
Although Senator Reid said this morning the 111th Congress has to go
down in history as being one of the most productive Congresses, at the
same time, he complained about Republicans filibustering legislation.
There seems to be kind of an inherent contradiction there. But I
suggest the explanation for that is the fact that our friends on the
other side have had such a large supermajority, they have been able to
muster the 60 votes and to go it alone. Again, I think that is yielding
to a temptation that everyone would understand, and the American people
have now since corrected that as a result of the November 2 election.
I would suggest, in closing, to all of our friends on both sides of
the aisle, again, I recognize the sincerity of those who have offered
these proposals, but I would suggest there is not a malfunction, or
should I say the rules themselves are not broken, but the rules
contemplate that the rules will not be abused. I think the temptation
to abuse those rules by going it alone is understandable but something
that needs to be avoided. I think because of the election now--since we
are more evenly divided so nobody will be able to get to 60 votes
unless there is a bipartisan consensus, to the extent that 60 votes are
needed--that the American people have sort of fixed the problem some of
our colleagues have perceived.
I thank the Chair.
Mr. HARKIN. Madam President, will the Senator yield for a question?
Mr. CORNYN. I am happy to yield for a question.
Mr. HARKIN. I thank my friend from Texas. Again, he and I have worked
together on some legislation in the past too. He is a thoughtful
Senator and a good legislator.
I ask my friend from Texas this: In listening to him, I almost have
the feeling that my friend from Texas is saying we ought to have a
supermajority to pass anything, that we should have 60 votes in order
to pass anything.
I ask my friend, is that what my friend really means or implies, that
everything should have 60 votes before it can go through here? Is that
what my friend is suggesting?
Mr. CORNYN. I appreciate the question from my friend, the Senator
from Iowa. That is not what I am suggesting. But I do think we need to
have a process which allows for an opportunity for amendments and
debate. And if we do not have a process requiring a threshold of 60
votes, the temptation is going to be, again, for the majority leader to
deny the opportunity for amendments, constrict time allowed for an
amendment, for debate, by filing cloture, and we are going to see
things shooting through here that have not had an adequate opportunity
for deliberation.
This institution has famously been called the world's greatest
deliberative body, but I daresay we have not demonstrated that in
recent memory. And, again, I think, as the Senator from Tennessee and
others have observed, this is not a problem with the rules. This is the
way the rules have actually been implemented. I think we have learned
an important lesson from this and one I hope will help us respect the
rights of all Senators, whether they be in the majority or the
minority, to offer amendments and to debate these amendments not
because they are about our rights but because they are about the
rights, for example, of the 25 million people I represent. They have
the right to be heard. They have a right to have any suggestions or
improvements to legislation be considered. That is all I am saying.
Mr. HARKIN. Madam President, if my friend will yield further, again,
in my resolution there is a guarantee that the minority has the right
to offer amendments--absolute guarantee. As I said, that is something I
have urged since 1995. I am very sympathetic to the argument that
people are cut out from offering amendments. I know because that has
happened to me by the majority at times. So I believe there ought to be
rights for the minority. I always hasten to add when I say ``minority''
I am not saying Republicans, I am saying the minority. It may be us
pretty soon. It goes back and forth, as my friends knows. There ought
to be the right for the minority to offer amendments and to have their
voice heard and to, as the Senator says, represent the people of our
States adequately.
But I ask my friend again, what happens when we have one or two or
three or four Senators who don't want to see a bill passed in any
form--some bill, just take any bill--that maybe has been worked on by
both Republicans and Democrats, has broad bipartisan support maybe to
the tune of even 70 or so Senators, but there is one or two or three
Senators who don't want it to pass anyway, and they are able to
gridlock the place under rule XXII. I know the Senator talked about
exercising self-restraint, and I say that is fine. But what if we had
that situation where we have two or three Senators saying: I don't care
how many Senators are on it I don't want it to move. And
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they invoke their rights under rule XXII. How do we get over that
hurdle?
Mr. CORNYN. Madam President, I would say to my friend the people who
came before us thought achieving consensus was good, not unanimity,
perhaps recognizing it is impossible to get 100 Senators to agree. So I
would say to my friend I sometimes am as frustrated as he is when one
or two or three or four Senators say: We are going to force this to a
cloture vote because we are just not going to agree. I think that is
frustrating to all of us, depending on which foot the shoe is on.
But I would say that is a small price to pay, that frustration, to
insist on assuring the rights of the minority--again, not because of an
individual Senator because we aren't all that important. It is the
rights of our constituents whom we represent that are so important, and
it is so important we get it right because there is nobody else after
we get through who gets to vote. It becomes the law of the land, and
unless it is unconstitutional not even the Supreme Court of the United
States can set it aside. So it is very important we get it right. I am
just saying that we take the time necessary, and I think that is what
the rules are designed to provide for.
Mr. HARKIN. Madam President, if the Senator would indulge me for one
more moment, so it is not the position of my friend from Texas that
everything needs 60 votes in which to move in the Senate; is that
correct?
Mr. CORNYN. Madam President, there are a long list of bills that pass
on a regular basis by unanimous consent, and it is like--we are almost
focused on the exception rather than the rule. There are many times--a
lot of times; I can't quantify it--where legislation will pass by
unanimous consent because it has gone through the committees, people
have had an opportunity to offer amendments, both sides have had an
opportunity to contribute to it, and then it passes without objection.
Again, I can't quantify that, but the ones we seem to be focused on are
the ones that seem to be more or less the exception to the rule where
there are genuine disagreements, when there is a need to have a more
fulsome debate and the opportunity for amendments.
So I think the current rules serve the interests of our constituents
and the American people well.
I thank the Chair and I thank my colleague.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Oregon.
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