[Congressional Record Volume 156, Number 53 (Thursday, April 15, 2010)]
[Senate]
[Pages S2362-S2363]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
FINANCIAL REFORM
Mr. SANDERS. Madam President, my understanding is, our Republican
colleagues have been on the floor and have expressed their concerns
about financial reform and their desire to work in a bipartisan way. I
welcome that. I am going to lay out some ideas I hope could have
Republican support. I am not sure they will, but I would love to see it
because the vast majority of the people in our country are profoundly
disgusted with the behavior on Wall Street, the greed, the
recklessness, the illegal behavior which has led us to the terrible
recession we find ourselves in today. I wish to tick off a couple
issues I hope my Republican colleagues would be interested in working
with me on.
Every week I receive--and I suspect others do as well--telephone
calls and letters and e-mails from people in my State who are outraged
by the kind of interest rates they are forced to pay, interest rates
which are nothing less than usury, usury which has been condemned by
every major religion in this world, which has been condemned throughout
history by some of our great philosophers and writers who have
basically said it is wrong and immoral to force desperate people who
are in need of loans to pay outrageous interest rates.
Yet today more than one-quarter of all credit cardholders in this
country are paying interest rates above 20 percent and, in some cases,
as high as 79 percent. That is not providing credit. That is loan
sharking. That is doing precisely what criminals do when they lend
people money and then break their kneecaps if they don't pay it back on
time--except the loan sharks who are doing this now wear three-piece
suits. They don't break kneecaps, but they destroy lives by forcing
people to pay outrageously high interest rates when people are using
their credit cards to buy groceries, to fill the gas tank to get to
work, to pay for basic needs their families have.
Millions of credit cardholders have received letters from Citibank,
Bank of America, Wells Fargo, and JPMorgan Chase notifying them that
their interest rates are going up, in some cases to 30 percent. A point
that has to be made is that these four large banks, the four largest
banks in a America, issue two-thirds of the credit cards. These four
banks are ripping off the American people from one end of the country
to the other. It is time that outrageous behavior ended.
I hope my Republican colleagues who have come to the floor expressing
concern about Wall Street, I hope what they are saying is more than
just rhetoric, that they truly want to do something. If they want to do
something, I hope they will join me when I offer an amendment as part
of financial reform to cap credit card interest rates at 15 percent.
That is the same statutory cap that has been in existence for 30 years
at credit unions all over the country. Credit unions are doing just
fine, but by law, they cannot ask for more than 15 percent, except
under certain circumstances, when it can go up to 18 percent. If that
is good enough for credit unions, it should be good enough for
Citibank, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, JPMorgan Chase, and other large
financial institutions.
If my Republican friends are sincere, I hope they will join me in
supporting efforts to bring transparency to the Federal Reserve. An
amendment I intend to offer will do that. What we need to do, among
many things, is to understand which financial institutions during the
bailout received over $2 trillion in secret taxpayer-backed loans
virtually interest free. Who are they? Last year, as a member of the
Budget Committee, I asked Fed Chairman Bernanke that simple question.
He said, no, he is not going to tell me which financial institutions,
he is not going to tell the American people which financial
institutions received trillions of taxpayer dollars. I have a problem
with that. I believe the American people do. We are going to offer an
amendment as part of financial reform in order to understand what, in
fact, is happening, to demand transparency there.
In April of last year, the Senate voted 59 to 39 on an amendment I
offered with Senators Webb, Bunning, and Feingold to the budget
resolution calling on the Fed to release this information. Yet as of
this day, the Fed has refused to do so. In August of last year, Federal
U.S. district judge Loretta Preska, nominated by President George W.
Bush, ordered the Federal Reserve to release this information. The Fed
appealed that decision and last March the U.S. appeals court in
Manhattan upheld that decision. Yet the Fed has still not disclosed
this information. Over 300 Members of Congress have cosponsored
legislation calling for an independent audit of the Fed. In other
words, we now have 59 Senators, over 300 Members of Congress, a U.S.
district court judge, and a U.S. appeals court that have said to the
Chairman of the Fed, Mr. Bernanke, in no uncertain terms, that the
American people have a right to know the names of the largest banks
that have received over $2 trillion in taxpayer-backed loans from the
Federal Reserve.
If my Republican friends are sincere, if they truly want to take on
the greed and the recklessness of Wall Street, if they want to give the
American people transparency as to what is happening on Wall Street, I
certainly hope they will support that amendment.
I also hope we can receive support to address the issue of too big to
fail. In that regard, I have offered legislation which is pretty
simple. It says the Treasury Department would provide a list to
Congress of all the too-big-to-fail banks in this country within 90
days of passage of that legislation and break them up within 1 year so
they can no longer threaten to bring down the economy if, once again,
they get into trouble. Quite amazingly--and I think most people don't
understand
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this--under the leadership of the Bush administration and Fed Chairman
Bernanke, the largest financial institutions since the bailout have not
gotten smaller; in fact, they have become larger.
In 2008, the Bank of America, the largest commercial bank in the
country, which received a $45 billion taxpayer bailout, purchased
Countrywide, the largest mortgage lender in the country, and Merrill
Lynch, the largest brokerage firm. In other words, what we are seeing
in at least three out of the four largest banks is, since the bailout,
they have become even larger, becoming an even greater threat to the
financial stability of the country if, once again, they are ever in a
position to fail.
The issue of large banks is not only that they are a threat to the
stability of our economy, if they are about to fail. The other aspect
of the problem is the concentration of ownership that currently exists.
When we have four large financial institutions that issue two-thirds of
the credit cards in the country and half the mortgages, we have a very
dangerous and noncompetitive type of situation. Given the fact that we
have seen these financial institutions issue esoteric and not
understandable financial instruments whose only goal is to secure more
money and profits and compensation packages for the CEOs of these
institutions, we need to start breaking them up and have financial
institutions that understand that their role is to provide credit to
the productive economy, the businesses that actually produce real
products, provide real services, and create real jobs. In other words,
we need to break them up to create a new Wall Street which becomes part
of the United States, part of our economy, not an isolated island whose
only goal in life is to issue worthless financial instruments in order
to make outrageous short-term profits. That is a huge issue that we
have to deal with.
If my Republican colleagues are, in fact, sincere, if they want to do
more than follow pollster Frank Luntz's playbook and throw out certain
words they think will work for them politically, I look forward to
their support for real financial reform.
The Bottom line is, we cannot continue to do what we have done for a
number of years. We have to summon the courage, and it will take
courage because Wall Street is enormously powerful. In order to get the
deregulation that led us to the financial disaster we experienced a
year and a half ago, over a 10-year period, Wall Street spent the
unbelievable sum of money of $5 billion on campaign contributions and
lobbying. Frankly, I don't even know how one can spend that kind of
money. But nonetheless, it certainly worked. Against my vote, when I
was in the House, they got the deregulation they wanted. Lo and behold,
once they were deregulated, not to my surprise, they went out and did
all kinds of strange things, reckless things, illegal things, which
brought us to where we were a year and a half ago.
What we need is real financial reform. We need a cap on interest
rates so Wall Street cannot continue to rip off ordinary Americans. We
need transparency at the Fed. We need to know which financial
institutions are receiving trillions of dollars of taxpayer money. We
need to begin the process of breaking up these huge financial
institutions, not only from a too-big-to-fail concern but also from a
concentration of ownership issue because we are going to need a lot
more competition in the financial industry than we have now.
We will find out soon enough whether our Republican friends are doing
more than reading from a pollster's playbook or whether they are
serious about taking on Wall Street. I have my doubts, but I hope I am
wrong. I hope we will gain their support in bringing real reform to our
financial institutions.
I yield the floor and suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
The assistant editor of the Daily Digest proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. DURBIN. Madam President, I ask unanimous consent that the order
for the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
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