[Congressional Record Volume 155, Number 2 (Wednesday, January 7, 2009)]
[House]
[Pages H61-H66]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
OUR ECONOMIC SITUATION AND FOREIGN POLICY
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under the Speaker's announced policy of
January 18, 2007, the gentleman from California (Mr. Sherman) is
recognized for 60 minutes as the designee of the majority leader.
Mr. SHERMAN. I will take much but not all of this hour to speak.
Roughly, the first half of the presentation will be on our economic
situation. The second half will focus on foreign policy.
I know that I have a number of colleagues that may have important
things to say to this House, and if they come to the floor, I'll be
happy to yield them a few minutes at a time that is convenient for
them.
Even with this long speech, I will not be able to cover all the
details that I'd like to provide to my colleagues. Therefore, I invite
all my colleagues to visit the relevant portion of my web page,
bradsherman.house.gov for more of the details of the matters I'll be
discussing here.
In talking about our economy, I will divide my speech first to
talking about matters relevant to the Financial Services Committee, on
which I've served for 12 years, and particularly the bill known as
TARP, or EESA, the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act, best known to
the public as the $700 billion bailout bill.
The second part of my economic presentation will deal with the
stimulus package now being put together, particularly by the Committees
on Appropriations and Ways and Means.
Now, I was a critic and twice voted against the $700 billion bailout
bill, the so-called TARP. The supporters of that bill will have to
admit that it has not restored our economy as the proponents had
advertised, and, in fact, some of the worst times for the economy were
the 2 to 3 weeks following its passage.
On the other hand, those of us who were critics should admit that the
bill has, frankly, cost the government far less than I had anticipated.
When I say cost, I don't mean just how much is spent, but from that
must be subtracted the value of the securities, the bonds and the stock
certificates received by the Federal Government.
In this case, Secretary Paulson misled this House and the other body
by testifying that he would use the $700 billion to buy toxic assets,
bad bonds. Had he done that, and all of us voting on the bill had every
reason to believe that he was telling us the truth, had he carried out
that policy, then he would have bought, for the money he had spent,
whether it's the 350 billion he has spent so far or the 700 billion
that I feared he would spend, he would have spent that money in return
for assets of dubious value. That's why they're called toxic assets.
In contrast, having misled the House and the other body, Secretary
Paulson bought preferred stock in the various financial institutions.
In doing so, he was overly generous to Wall Street as to the terms,
but, nevertheless, he did secure assets for the Treasury that are of
substantial value.
Paulson's shift, frankly, was right along the lines that many of us
who are critics of the bill had urged him to adopt. And so those who
supported the bill, those who are critics of it, must both recognize
that what the Treasury has done so far is far different from what all
of us believed would, in fact, be the policy.
Now, we see that $350 billion has been expended by the Treasury, and
another $350 billion remains unspent. I am pleased that the Secretary
of the Treasury has not yet taken the procedural actions to release and
give himself control of the remaining $350 billion.
It is my understanding that leadership will bring to this House a
bill that will release the $350 billion to the Treasury and will impose
additional conditions. And I'd like to take a few minutes to address
what I think ought to be in that bill.
First, is the issue of whether any of the funds to be released, any
of that second $350 billion, will be available to the Bush
administration. Last month I wrote the chairman of the Financial
Services Committee saying that we should have limits on the amount that
could be spent by the Bush administration out of the second $350
billion. In fact, I proposed that only $10 billion or less be available
to the Bush administration to deal with whatever exigencies it dealt
with in its waning days. It is my understanding that the bill that will
be brought before this House will provide the Bush administration with
$0 to deal with whatever comes up in its last week or so in office.
In any case, I think, having seen Paulson in action, the vast
majority of this House would believe that somewhere between 95 percent
and 100 percent of the second $350 billion, if it is made available to
anyone in the executive branch should be made available only to the
Obama administration.
I should point out something about process. It would be best if any
bill dealing with the second $350 billion was actually dealt with in
regular order.
Now, I'm not saying necessarily that every committee of possible
jurisdiction should do a full markup, but as we deal with this economic
crisis, at least the primary committee as to each bill should have a
markup so that Members can be heard, and the House can work its will.
In addition, I would hope that the Rules Committee would allow a
reasonable number of amendments to be considered on the floor.
In addition, I would hope that the Financial Services Committee would
give the same scrutiny to the financial institutions who have received
and are likely to receive additional bailout monies as we gave to the
executives of the three automobile makers.
We need extensive hearings. We need to bring the titans of Wall
Street down, and we need to have these hearings at both the full
committee and the subcommittee level.
We do not want to give further credence to the accusation that
Congress and the administration have two standards for scrutinizing
bailout requests, one for those who shower before work and a more
severe standard for those who must shower after work. We should have at
least the same amount of scrutiny to an industry that has already
received the bulk of $350 billion as we provided to an automobile
industry that is requesting amounts less than 5 percent of that amount.
Now, what should we provide in the way of restrictions to those who
obtain bailout funds or retain the bailout funds they have already
received?
Federal dollars should be expended to bail out private interests only
on the toughest terms. Taxpayers should demand the highest yield, the
largest equity upside, the strictest limits on executive compensation
and perks. Even when we bail out individual homeowners rather than big
time executives and shareholders of major companies, the Treasury
should get a large share of the profit that they earn when they sell
their homes.
Why is it so important that we are tough on those who seek bailout
funds? There are three important reasons. First, being tough will
increase support for the program. The public is currently focused on
executive compensation and perks. I think it will soon focus on the
value of the securities the
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Treasury is receiving, including warrants that represent the upside,
the potential profits of a company that is receiving bailed out funds.
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We need public support for the enactment, and there is considerable
public skepticism. In talking to my colleagues, I find very few who are
enthusiastic about releasing the second $350 billion to the executive
branch, and I find, while most of my colleagues believe that we need a
stimulus package, there is real reluctance to adopt one as large as
that being recommended by so many prominent economists. We can achieve
that support in this House and in the public by being tough on those
who receive bailout funds.
Second, being tough on those obtaining bailout funds will help to
limit the number of people seeking to be bailed out. Not even the
Federal Government can afford to fund all of the bailouts that will be
demanded if executives see the Federal Government as a source of easy
and cheap money.
Third, getting a good deal by tough negotiations with anyone
receiving a bailout will reduce the amount by which we are increasing
the Federal deficit. We will be expending hundreds of billions of
dollars now. I'm just addressing the $700 billion piece that is half
completed. There will be other expenditures. We need to reassure our
children, and we need to reassure the international markets that we are
acting responsibly to minimize the increase in the Federal deficit.
Now, some of the expenditures being made out of the TARP funds are
going to be money lost forever. It's going to be buying assets that
turn out to be worthless or investing in companies that go bankrupt.
That is why we need a very large upside on those of our investments
that are successful. Typically, the Federal Government obtains an
upside by obtaining warrants from the companies it provides bailout
funds to. These allow the taxpayers to reap the benefits of a company's
success when it returns to profitability and when that profitability is
reflected in its stock price.
I believe that, in the negotiations with Wall Street, Secretary
Paulson has been far too generous to his friends in the financial
services industry. Given the tremendous risks the Federal Government is
assuming, taxpayers should be receiving far more of the upside in
return for their investments.
For example, in the recent bailout of Goldman Sachs, the taxpayer
received half the rate of return and one-sixth the warrants that
investor Warren Buffett was able to receive on a similar investment
that he made in Goldman Sachs for his fund.
The Emergency Economic Stabilization Act gives the Treasury too much
discretion as to what to demand in the way of warrants. While the
Treasury is required to obtain warrants when it injects capital into
financial institutions, it can accept as few warrants as it likes.
The Treasury has adopted a one-size-fits-all approach, which provides
the Federal Government with warrants equal to 20 percent of its
investment when it buys preferred stock in a financial institution. Not
even this 20 percent is required by the statute, and this 20 percent is
often way too low because those healthiest banks on Wall Street were
willing to give us 20 percent. Clearly, the riskier banks on Wall
Street that got bailout funds were not adequately compensating the
American taxpayer for the risk we are taking because they only provided
20 percent warrants, a figure that might be appropriate for those
financial institutions that are low risk.
The question is: What can we do in a statute? Clearly, we hope that
the next Secretary of the Treasury will drive a tough bargain whenever
investing our taxpayer dollars in private firms, but we can do
something in the statute.
At a minimum, we should include language that was in an early version
of the House bill dealing with the automobile relief that requires
warrants of at least 20 percent, and we should make it clear that this
20 percent is a floor, not a ceiling. We should direct the Secretary of
the Treasury to demand warrants that fully compensate the taxpayer for
the risks being taken in any particular deal.
Then we turn to the issue of executive compensation and perks. These
are very important to taxpayers and are important in deterring those
companies that don't need a bailout from coming to Washington in their
private jets, hats in hand.
Now, the bill, as interpreted by the Bush administration, has allowed
multimillion dollar salaries to continue to be paid to the very
executives who drove their companies into the ditch, and the Bush
administration has chosen to impose no limits on perks. In particular,
the Bush administration has ignored section 111(b) of the EESA, also
known as the TARP bill.
That section states: Where the Secretary determines that the purposes
of the act are best met through direct purchases of troubled assets,
the Secretary shall require that the financial institution meet
appropriate standards for executive compensation and corporate
governance.
Virtually all of the $350 billion that the Secretary of the Treasury
has expended has been pursuant to his determination that we could best
be served through direct purchases of troubled assets. He has not done
an auction, which was the main part of the bill he was trying to sell
to us. Instead, he has simply made direct purchases of assets from
companies, negotiated one at a time. In those circumstances, the law
requires that he shall require that the financial institution meet
appropriate standards for executive compensation and corporate
governance.
What has Secretary Paulson done?
He has allowed multimillion dollar bonuses to be paid to the
executives of AIG. He has allowed million-dollar-a-month salaries to
continue to be paid to executives of bailed-out Wall Street firms. He
has allowed all of those entities to continue to operate fleets of
private jets. Despite getting our money, Goldman Sachs spent almost a
quarter million dollars a year to provide a limo for one executive.
This does not constitute appropriate standards for executive
compensation and corporate governance, nor should Congress simply punt
to the executive branch what those appropriate standards should be.
Instead, we should provide by law that, if a company gets a Federal
bailout, the firm must limit its total compensation package to any
executive to no more than $1 million per year for as long as the firm
is holding our money. The limits should apply to the whole package of
compensation--salaries, bonuses, pension plan contributions, and stock
options. In particular, a huge grant of stock options to an executive
at this time could be a bonanza--and an unjustified one--because right
now all the stock prices of Wall Street firms are at depressed levels,
and an option given to an executive to buy shares of stock for $1 or $2
a share could turn out to be more valuable than a ton of winning
lottery tickets.
To the extent any existing contract provides for executive
compensation in excess of that which is allowed under statute, I
suggest that the bill provide that that contract is void as against
public policy.
Now, let us turn to perks. We should limit luxury perks like
corporate jets and chauffeured limousines. We should prevent these
while any firm is holding taxpayers' money. I'll point out there are
firms on Wall Street that got money from Paulson that said, ``Hey, we
signed up for the money. We never knew you were going to get tough with
us.'' Fine. You don't like the new rules? Give us back our money; but
if you retain taxpayer money, then you should not, as Goldman Sachs has
done, be paying a quarter million dollars in a year for a chauffeured
limousine service for one executive. If the firm's executives don't
want to take off their belts and their shoes and go through airport
security like the public does, then that firm should not receive and
should not retain a bailout, and it probably doesn't need one.
For as long as those bailout funds are outstanding, we should
prohibit firms from owning, leasing or chartering luxury jets or from
maintaining a fleet of chauffeured limousines. We should provide
exceptions for chartering planes to travel to remote areas, areas
remote from scheduled air service, and we should allow some sort of
driver and auto to be provided to those executives who face severe
physical challenges.
We may also want to provide limits on how much the company reimburses
its executives per night for any hotel
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room--a maximum amount of $500 comes to mind--or per meal for any meal.
Perhaps it should be $100 per meal. I hate to get down to this level of
specificity, but Wall Street has proven that they will squander the
money taxpayers provide their firms on lavish parties and fancy travel
if we are not specific.
It is possible that the auto bailout bill that passed this House will
be used as a model for limiting executive compensation and perks. If
that's the case, we had better strengthen it first. We had better make
clear that the limits on bonuses apply not just to cash bonuses but
also to grants of stock options. We should limit the total compensation
to $1 million a year, and we should limit the use not just of leased or
of purchased luxury aircraft but also of chartered luxury aircraft.
Finally, we should have appropriate limits on limousines.
Let me point out that some of my colleagues have noticed that I was
tough on the auto executives who used their private jets to come to us
the first time.
One of those companies has told me very explicitly: ``Sherman, the
law may say that we can't own the jets; the law may say we can't lease
the jets, but the law, as passed by the House, says we can still
charter the jets, and our CEO is never going to fly commercial.''
That's fine unless that firm receives bailout money. Once it does, we
have to limit it. We can't play a shell game with the American people.
Oh, we'll limit the luxury travel, and then just have the company
charter the jet instead of lease the jet. That would be a fraud on the
American people.
There is one other important improvement that we need to make to the
TARP bill. You see, after that bill passed, the Treasury adopted, as I
mentioned before, a plan to buy preferred stock, in particular, of
financial institutions. The next administration will probably use a
good chunk of the money to go back to the original plan, which was to
buy bad bonds--toxic assets--from the financial institutions. Then we
have to be worried. If we're buying bad bonds, at least we should buy
bad bonds owned by American investors. It is not the purpose of this
bill to bail out banks in London and in Riyadh and in Shanghai.
I want to make a technical distinction. I have no objection to our
treating as American companies such firms as Hancock Insurance and
Fireman's Fund that happen to be owned by a foreign parent. We should
look at what company is on American soil, and we should provide
appropriate bailouts to the companies on American soil, but what we
should not do is start bailing out banks in Shanghai, London and
Riyadh.
Under the bill as we passed it from this House, the Bank of China can
sell a portfolio of toxic assets to any U.S.-headquartered entity
whether it owns that entity or not. It could be a small branch that it
owns in my State of California or it could be some big bank on Wall
Street that it does not own, but the Bank of China can sell a portfolio
of bad bonds to a U.S.-headquartered entity on Monday, and under the
bill we passed, that entity can sell those same bonds to the Treasury
on Tuesday. I call this the China two-step. It is a mechanism by which
we will end up bailing out the bad business investments, not of U.S.-
based companies, but bad bonds which are held in safes in Shanghai and
in London.
Our new legislation should provide that the Treasury can only buy
assets--bad bonds, mortgages--proven to be held by a U.S. entity--
whether it's a foreign-owned entity or not, an on-the-ground, in-the-
United States entity--on September 20, 2008.
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We should only be buying the bad bonds that were in safes located in
America on September 20, which is the day that Paulson went public with
the need for a bailout bill.
Now, I look forward not only to reforming the TARP bill but also
using that reform as an opportunity to pass other legislation within
the jurisdiction of the Financial Services Committee that can help deal
with this economic crisis. And I want to point out, first, things that
we can do that won't cost the treasury a penny, because before we start
spending trillions of dollars, we should say, ``What can we do to get
out of this mess that doesn't cost us anything?''
There are a couple of opportunities.
First, we can increase the amount of business lending that can be
made by credit unions. Right now, we limit credit unions severely as to
how much business lending they can do. We could, for the duration of
this crisis, allow those credit unions to make those business loans to
small business: $100,000 loans, $150,000 loans. I'm only talking here
about smaller loans to small businesses that need them. We need to
allow businesses in all of our districts to get that $100,000 loan that
they need to expand or even to stay in business. And it is just folly
for us to take one of the healthy groups of financial institutions in
this country namely, the credit unions, and tell them they can't make
the $100,000 loan that is desperately needed by the small businesses in
our respective districts.
Second, we need to increase the conforming loan limit. The conforming
loan limit is the size of the loan that can be purchased by Fannie Mae
and Freddie Mac. Those are basically the only loans that are being made
today. And the cost of housing differs tremendously from one region of
the country to another, even in these tough times when of course in
most regions prices have gone down.
Last year, we raised the conforming loan limit to $729,750 for high
cost areas, but we allowed that increase to expire effective on the
first day of this year. We need to restore that at 730, perhaps raise
it to 750. Now, this will not cause the Federal Government to lose a
penny because Fannie and Freddie actually make a profit on the larger
loans. They suffer losses or have suffered losses on the smaller loans.
One way we can help replenish the money that Fannie and Freddie have
lost is to allow them in high cost areas to do loans at the $750,000
level. That can be so critical for some of our big cities where
declines in house prices have so badly affected local economies.
Now let me turn my attention to the stimulus bill, the bill that will
basically be crafted by the Appropriations and Ways and Means
Committees.
First, I want to approach the general principles that should be
covered under that bill, and then I want to comment on specific ideas
that are being put forward in light of those principles.
Mr. Speaker, this country faces the specter of depression. A
deflationary cycle threatens a long period of economic contraction. We
need an enormous immediate economic stimulus. But unless that stimulus
is well designed, it may not pass Congress. Unless it is well designed,
it may not achieve its objectives. And unless it is well designed, it
may sow the seeds of a future disastrous decline in the value of the
dollar.
So we have to make sure that the stimulus bill is big and fast but
also tough, temporary, and self-reversing.
What do I mean by ``tough''? As I have said, Federal dollars should
be extended to private interests only on the toughest terms. And I have
indicated there are three reasons for that.
First, we've got to discourage everyone from seeking a bailout or
from believing that they're suckers for not seeking a bailout.
Second, we need to increase public support for what will be a highly
contentious and difficult-to-pass stimulus bill. It will be much easier
for Members to vote for such a bill if it provides the toughest terms
to those who are receiving extraordinary Federal largess.
And finally, as I pointed out, by getting warrants, by getting other
securities that give us a share of the upside, we will be in a position
to decrease the increase in the deficit occasioned by the stimulus
package.
Now let's talk about why the bill must contain provisions so that the
stimulus is temporary and reversible. Self-reversing, in fact.
Keynesian economics offers a simple prescription for the difficult
times we're facing now. That is to say, easy money now and fiscal and
monetary austerity after the economy improves.
How in good conscience can we vote for a massive economic stimulus
now if we believe that it is unlikely that Congress will adopt
austerity later? We in Congress love handing out money. We know that.
We love tax cuts, and tax rebates, and tax holidays, and tax fiestas,
and benefit expansions, and subsidies, and bailouts, and infrastructure
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projects, and aid to States, and aid to cities and Rite Aid, Kool-Aid.
We like spending money.
Can we count on future Congresses to discontinue and then reverse the
fiscal expansion that is necessary today? What I fear is going to
happen is that the advocates of fiscal responsibility--and I count
myself among them--may prevent Congress from giving us the full level
of economic stimulus that we need now. I fear that the stimulus will
not be as big and fast as we need now. And simultaneously, I fear that
the advocates of tax cuts and the advocates of free spending will
prevent us from turning off the spigot later.
To avoid this outcome, the stimulus package should be both temporary
and self-reversing. The same statute which provides a huge amount of
stimulus should also provide particular identified tax increases and
expenditure cuts that will go into effect automatically in the year
2013. The statute could and should provide that those automatic
provisions would be delayed if we failed to achieve 3 percent economic
growth in the year 2012.
Now, of course I can't know today what is the best budgetary policy
for this country in 2013. We would have to fine tune or change anything
that we write today as 2013 approaches. But we need to give the upper
hand to those who would advocate fiscal responsibility after economic
growth has resumed.
If austerity in 2013 is mandated by a statute that goes into effect,
then the advocates of fiscal responsibility will have that upper hand
and can negotiate with our colleagues to make sure that we get the kind
of austerity that should follow the fiscal expansion that we need now.
Only if an economic stimulus proposal is tough, temporary, and self-
reversing can we generate the political will necessary to adopt a
proposal that's big enough and fast enough. Only if stimulus measures
are temporary and self-reversing can we make sure that the actions we
take this month do not eventually lead to inflation, higher interest
rates, a declining dollar, and an enormous and permanent increase in
the Federal debt.
So these are the principles that I think should guide us with regard
to particular elements of the stimulus bill.
Now let us look at particular proposals. Are they efficient? Do they
get money into circulation quickly? Does every dollar we spend or
forego get into the economy and get in quickly?
Second, is the money spent for a good purpose?
Third, does the money stay in the United States, or are we going to
be spending money at the Federal level that goes to simply finance our
trade deficit?
And finally, are the provisions temporary and self-reversing?
First, let us talk about aid to States. This is, I think, the most
important element of the program because what could be worse for an
economy facing contraction than to see our police officers and teachers
being laid off by State and local governments just when we need to keep
people employed.
If we provide aid to States, what about the efficiency? I think every
State government is going to spend that money effectively. Those States
that don't need it may choose to save it for the future, but there are
very few of those. Will the money be put to good use? Yes, to keep
teachers and firefighters and police officers on the payroll and all on
the job. Will the money stay in the United States? One hundred percent
of it stays in the United States.
And, of course, this would be temporary. If we wanted, we could even
make it self-reversing. Most States are not allowed to borrow money
from the Federal Government by their own constitutions, but what we
could do is change the reimbursement formulas so that we take a bigger
share of the Medicaid budget than we do now and let the States save
money on that with the understanding that come 2013, not only does that
formula go back to where it was, but it may even swing in the other
direction and be adverse to the States.
They could plan for this. This would be a way to make the proposal of
State aid even self-reversing. But if it's not self-reversing, it will
be temporary. It will be efficient. It will be a good use of money, and
the dollars will stay in the United States.
Second is the possibility of tax rebates to consumers. This is money
that will be well spent by America's families who need it. But we
cannot be sure that they will spend it. It may be saved, and we have to
expect that of the portion of it that will be spent, much of it will be
spent on foreign-made goods. So it may be important to provide these
rebates to consumers in our society. It will help keep the retail
economy going, keep our shopping centers from going bankrupt, et
cetera. But let us remember that a chunk of that money is going to go
overseas.
A third element is business tax breaks, and here we have to draw a
distinction between those business tax breaks, which we in the tax
world call ``timing differences,'' and those that are permanent tax
reductions.
What are the timing differences? Timing difference is when you give
somebody a deduction today that they would otherwise get tomorrow
anyway. You have simply changed the year in which they get the tax
reduction.
There are two proposals on the table from the Obama transition team
that fit this bill. One of those is changing the rules with regard to
investments up to, I believe it's a quarter million dollars, to let
smaller businesses write this money off in the year in which they spend
the money. In the absence of a special provision, they would have to
capitalize that money and write it off as the asset they purchased is
used up, as the machinery wears out.
Well, we want to encourage businesses to invest now, and ultimately
it costs us little or nothing. Yes, we give them the deduction right
now this year, otherwise they would take it over a period usually of 5
years. Why not give them the deduction now? The ultimate increase in
the deficit over 5 years is very small.
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Now, it is true that there's a time value of money. Not getting tax
dollars today and getting them instead several years from now, that
used to be thought of as a cost to the Treasury because you have to pay
interest on the money the Federal Government borrows. But today the
Federal Government is borrowing money for amazingly low interest rates,
some at the rate of zero, and so the fact that we will get the tax
dollars collected from businesses 2 or 3 years from right now, rather
than immediately, scarcely increases the Federal deficit.
Another issue is net operating loss carryforwards and carrybacks.
These are companies that made money during the last 5 years. Now
they're losing money in 2008 or they're going to lose money in 2009.
Current tax law allows them to write off those losses chiefly against
money they make in 2011, 2012, future years. We should allow these
companies to carry it back, to use these net operating loss deductions
now to offset the taxes they paid in prior years.
First, I regard this as fair. Any accounting theorist will tell you
that the use of the 1-year accounting period is arbitrary, that
companies make and lose money in cycles. Business cycles often last
many years, and so you cannot say that it is anything but artificial to
say, well, you made money in 2007, you lost money in 2008. No, you made
and lost money over a period of years that we have artificially divided
into 12-month periods. So saying that you have to pay money on the
taxes you made in 2007 but cannot get an immediate refund of those
taxes when you discover that really over the 2-year period you've lost
money is not consistent with good accounting theory. We should allow
net operating loss carryback.
The other thing is these net operating loss deductions. They're going
to be taken at some point. We might as well let them be taken now, and
the ultimate increase in the deficit is very small.
So those are two provisions that I think will encourage business and
will provide a lot more money in expenditures today than an ultimate
increase in the deficit over a 5-year period.
So I look forward to working with my colleagues on economic policy. I
will have more details of what I've talked about on the Web page,
bradsherman.house.gov. This is the beginning of a dialogue on how to
deal with the greatest economic crisis that we have faced in the
lifetimes of all but the oldest Members of this body.
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foreign policy
At this point, Mr. Chairman, I'd like to focus on foreign policy and
particularly the Middle East. Again, I would point out that if there
are colleagues that would like me to yield them a few minutes and they
happen to be on the floor, they need only get my attention.
Now, I want to commend the Bush administration for its support of
Israel during this difficult period. Now, the press, as is often the
case, is beating up Israel due to its lack of understanding of what is
happening and how to interpret it.
First, let us remember that over the last several years Hamas has
sent nearly 7,000 rockets into Israel. That's 7,000 times they have
attempted murder. But the press would have you believe that those
attempts at murder don't count because most of them were unsuccessful.
This is absurd. The malice is demonstrated by the attempted murder, and
I use the term ``murder'' explicitly here because every one of those
rockets was fired with only one intention: kill Israeli civilians. Not
a single one of those rockets was targeted at anything military. The
fact that they haven't killed 7,000 Israelis does not reflect well on
their morality. It may reflect poorly on their aim.
Second, and this is under-covered by the press, the United Nations
has stated that roughly three-quarters of the casualties in Gaza are of
terrorists-military, gun-toting, Hamas terrorists. This is a true
tribute to the tactics used by Israel because Israel has done
everything possible to avoid civilian casualties. Hamas has done
everything possible to increase civilian casualties. Again and again,
they fire rockets from the middle of schools, from the middle of
hospitals, from the middle of residential neighborhoods.
I mean, these people live very close to each other. Israel actually
has the Gaza phonebook. They will call a house and say, We know
military supplies are being stored there, we're going to hit this
house, you've got 10, 20 minutes to leave. And what happens? Hamas
forces civilians up to the rooftops.
Perhaps one of the best-known examples is the highest level Hamas
individual to be killed by Israel. At his home he stored rockets and
Israel knew it. He announced publicly that he wanted to be a martyr and
that he, himself, would be at his home. And Israel called that home and
said we want to avoid civilian casualties. We have to hit that home
because we know that rockets are being stored there, you have time to
leave. What did this Hamas leader do? He forced and brought together
his four wives and their many children and insisted that he be allowed
to die as a martyr and that as many of his family members would die as
possible in order to increase civilian casualties.
Now, it is well-known that Israel is allowing trucks of supplies to
get into Gaza. This is usually known by press critics who say Israel
didn't allow a resupply truck in at this particular hour; they made the
truck wait a couple of hours. Let us compare this to the wars we are
most familiar with: World War I and World War II.
During each of those wars, Britain used its entire navy to cut off
every German civilian from food imports and any other kind of import.
And Germany deployed its submarines with the sole effort of depriving
the British of the food imports they needed from chiefly the New World.
So, in the wars we're most familiar with, both the good and the bad
side did everything possible to stop civilian supplies from getting
into Germany or Britain. Compare that to an Israel that protects the
trucks as they go in.
With that, I'd like to yield to the gentleman from Georgia (Mr.
Broun).
Mr. BROUN of Georgia. I thank the gentleman for yielding. I
appreciate my Democratic colleague for bringing this very important
issue to the forefront, and I support your effort to do so, and I trust
that we across the aisle can continue to support Israel.
In the Torah, in the Old Testament of the Bible, we read: Blessed is
the Nation that blesses Israel, and cursed is the Nation that curses
Israel. We as a Nation have been extremely blessed by our creator, by
God, and I believe a big part of that, a huge part of that is because
we have blessed Israel and supported Israel. These people are under
attack by terrorists who consider Jewish people dogs, less than human,
and we need to support Israel.
I highly congratulate my Democratic colleague for bringing this
forward, and I encourage our colleagues to continue to support Israel,
to continue to do what we can to make sure that the Israeli citizens
remain safe against these heinous attacks by Hamas, by Hezbollah, by
the Iranian people who are funding both organizations. So we need to
absolutely continue to support Israel so that God will continue to
support America, and I congratulate my colleague for bringing this
forward, and I look forward to working with you to continue to support
Israel.
Thank you.
Mr. SHERMAN. I look forward to working with the gentleman from
Georgia and thank him for his remarks.
Any discussion of the morality of war sometimes gets off on what I
think is a sidelight. People always want to criticize this or that
sergeant, this or that gunner; oh, you shouldn't have responded this
way to rocks being thrown; oh, your attempt to return fire to a Hamas
rocket site was off by 10 yards or 20 yards in the direction of a
civilian location.
We have to remember, the moral responsibility for war and for the
deaths of war cannot be placed at the feet of this or that sergeant
making this or that decision under life-threatening conditions. The
moral responsibility for war and for its casualties must be placed on
politicians who seek extreme and unjust objectives through violent
means.
Here's a case where Hamas has earned its designation as a terrorist
organization. Not only does it use terrorist means, but what are its
objectives? They are stated very clearly. They are for the death or
expulsion of every Jew from the Middle East. They refuse any change in
that policy. So whether it is genocide or ethnic cleansing or more
likely a combination of the two, these are the objectives of Hamas,
being pursued by violent means. It is obviously the fault of the
politicians of Hamas who seek these objectives that must be held
responsible for the resulting carnage.
We need a sustainable, permanent cease-fire, not a 2-day resupply
truce to allow Hamas to bring in more rockets.
Now, I think it's clear that this is not just a conflict between
Israel and Hamas. It is a conflict between the Government of Iran and
the people of the United States. The fighting in Gaza has demonstrated
again that the ultimate adversary of the United States and its allies
in the Middle East is the Government of Iran. Hamas is a terrorist
organization seeking the destruction of Israel in favor of an Islamic
Palestinian State, but it is also an Iranian proxy. As such, it is part
of a regional war waged by the Iranian regime against the United States
and its allies.
Many Hamas weapons are made in Iran, and many top Hamas military
leaders and the experts who launch the missiles into Israel were
trained in Iran. Iran also provides the group with significant funding.
It is unlikely that Hamas would have been able to achieve its status as
the premier Palestinian terrorist organization and thus provoke this
crisis without Iranian backing.
Iran-backed Hamas, like Iran-backed Hezbollah, shoots rockets at
Israeli civilians from deep inside their own densely populated civilian
population, knowing that when Israel acts to defend itself innocent
Palestinians will be among the victims.
Through Hamas, Hezbollah and its operatives in Iraq, Iran and its
government are able to stir up crises in the Middle East, thus injuring
American prestige while helping to achieve that government's own aims.
We know that Iran is working hard toward the possession of a nuclear
bomb. This would allow Iran to act with impunity in the future. A
nuclear Iran would go from provoking this crisis to that crisis, and we
would have to go face-to-face with a nuclear power, each time hoping,
hoping for the same results we saw in the Cuban missile crisis--that is
to say, going eyeball-to-eyeball with a hostile nuclear power hoping we
always have the same result, namely, some peaceful resolution.
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It only takes one crisis with a nuclear power that goes in the wrong
direction to destroy an entire city or an entire country.
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Furthermore, we should recognize that if the regime in Tehran ever
finds itself on the verge of collapse--and many of us pray for that
day--its leaders may decide to go out with a bang.
Preventing Iranian nuclear possession is critical to world peace, and
we can still succeed in accomplishing that goal, but we have to act
quickly. The good news is we have used only 1 percent of the tools that
are available to us, and therefore we can do a lot more. The bad news
is we've used only about 1 percent of the tools available to us. We
have demonstrated a lack of political will to use the methods that we
have to use to put pressure on the Iranian regime.
Now, President-elect Obama has a strong record of working to put
pressure on the Iranian regime. He voted for the Lautenberg amendment,
which would have prevented U.S. oil companies from doing business with
Iran through their foreign subsidiaries. And he authored a bill that
would have encouraged divestment from firms--chiefly oil companies--
doing business with Iran.
He will have the ability, when he takes office, to go a long way
toward increasing the price the Iranian Government pays for its stance
on the nuclear issue and its support for terrorism. First, he can stop
U.S. oil companies from using their overseas subsidiaries from doing
business with Iran. We should also do that by legislation.
The administration can start enforcing the Iran Sanctions Act. We can
demand that the World Bank stop dispersing funds to Iran in the form of
concessionary loans which have not been effectively opposed by the
current administration. We can deny nuclear cooperation agreements to
countries that provide technologies to Iran. We can deny insurance to
ships that carry cargo to Iran. And we can put economic pressure on
American foreign companies seeking to build liquefied natural gas
plants in Iran and those that sell refined petroleum--chiefly
gasoline--to Iran.
Now, while Iran is oil rich, it needs to import nearly half its
gasoline because it lacks refinery capacity. I'm here to bring to the
House's attention one recent success. The Indian press is reporting
that as a result of pressure that was initiated in the Congress, a
major Indian petroleum refinery is halting its business dealings with
Iran. I want to thank the several of my colleagues who joined with me
in sending a letter to the U.S. Import-Export Bank to demand that EX-IM
not provide loans to this particular Indian refinery as long as the
Indian refinery was supporting Iran and providing it with the gasoline
it needs.
I look forward to being able to convince Iranian elites that they
face other economic and diplomatic isolation if they continue their
nuclear program and continue their support for terror, and there are
many other ways that we can achieve that objective. I invite my
colleagues again to see more details at bradsherman.house.gov.
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