[Congressional Record Volume 154, Number 55 (Tuesday, April 8, 2008)]
[Senate]
[Pages S2716-S2717]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
HOUSING CRISIS
Mr. ISAKSON. Mr. President, I come to the well specifically today to
talk for a few minutes about the tax credit proposal that is included
in the base bill as introduced by Senators Dodd and Shelby and approved
by the Finance Committee, Senator Grassley, and Senator Baucus. To that
end I want to pay particular thanks to the staff of the Finance
Committee for the tremendous work they did with respect to the housing
tax credit amendment which is now part of the base bill.
I come here today, though, to correct some misinformation that has
been appearing in the media particularly over the past weekend and in a
couple of national publications and Washington newspapers with regard
to the housing stimulus and tax credit being inappropriate or wrong.
The presumptions of those who have written are absolutely inappropriate
and wrong. Although they are attempting, I am sure, to contribute to
the debate, they are in fact contributing to a tremendous
misunderstanding about the reality of what the tax credits will do.
For the sake of discussion, the tax credit is a $7,000, $3,500-a-year
tax credit that goes to any family who buys and occupies as their
residence any home that has been foreclosed upon or is owned by a bank
or lender, new or resale, and any resale owned by an owner occupant who
is fending foreclosure.
There have been two comments made about what is wrong with this
proposal that are exactly the opposite of what is really right about
this proposal. No. 1, in one editorial it said it is rewarding people
who did not pay their payments and punishing people who are making
their payments. It is not rewarding anybody. If you are purchasing a
foreclosed-upon house, the damage has already been done to the
borrower. The family who didn't perform is not rewarded. In fact, they
have already suffered their punishment. But everybody else in the
neighborhood is suffering punishment because that vacant house sits
there deteriorating and causing declining house values.
Secondly, it does not punish the homeowner who is in their house
making their payments because the truth is, that home owner is hurt
more when a foreclosure sits vacant and unsold than it is when that
property is taken, bought by a homeowner, reestablished, the lawn is
kept, the values are stabilized.
The fact is, we have an obligation at this critical time in our
economy to do what we can to stimulate the market to solve our
problems, not have a plethora of government solutions to problems.
Stimulating the market to go back, absorb these houses, get them back
in owner-occupied hands, get them out of REO inventory is precisely
what we need to do.
Now, I do not come to this opinion as someone who has no experience;
I come to it based on experience 33 years ago, in 1975. I was in the
business. The United States had gone through a serious decline in
housing. We had a problem. We had a 3-year supply of new houses
standing unoccupied on the market. Buyers retreated because they did
not know where the bottom was. The economy went down. Everything was in
a mess.
Gerald Ford, a Republican President, and a Democratic Congress came
to this very floor and introduced a $2,000-a-year tax credit to any
family who went and bought one of those standing vacant new houses
only--not any house, the standing vacant new houses that were there,
the problem houses. They passed the $2,000 tax credit. The market
immediately responded. Within the 1-year window of opportunity for that
credit, two-thirds of the standing inventory was absorbed, home values
stabilized and began to go up, and the economy returned to vitality.
So I ask those who are writing in criticism about a bill rewarding
people
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who did bad things and punishing people who did it right, they are
exactly the opposite; the damage has already been done when the
foreclosure has taken place, and the reward is to stabilize
neighborhoods for those who are in their homes and paying.
I think the wisdom of the Finance Committee and the Banking Committee
to incorporate this provision is an insurance policy that we in
Congress can do good things to drive the market, to help solve
problems. You hear all those problems about us making payments for
people and doing things to take money from one American and give it to
another in a time of trouble. That only postpones the inevitable. It
does not solve the problem. But stimulating buyers back to the
marketplace to absorb those houses that have been foreclosed upon or
are pending foreclosure addresses specifically the housing crisis in
this country, absorbs specifically the houses that are causing us
problems, reestablishes values in our neighborhoods, and stabilizes the
values of those people who are in their homes making their payments,
doing what is right.
So with all due respect to those who have opined over the weekend,
they are absolutely incorrect and wrong in terms of the applications of
this credit. It will, in fact, be a boost to the economy, a boost to
the housing market, and a stabilizing factor on home values and
equities in the United States of America.
I yield the floor.
The ACTING PRESIDENT pro tempore. The Senator from Maryland.
Ms. MIKULSKI. Will the Senator yield for a question?
Mr. ISAKSON. I will.
Ms. MIKULSKI. I have a question exactly about not only those
headlines but what people have asked me over the weekend. I want the
Senator to know, first of all, we value his extensive experience in the
real estate field--he was a well-known realtor in his own community--
and, of course, his ongoing method of civility in this body.
Here is my question: This is a $7,000 tax credit if you buy a
foreclosed home in a neighborhood; is that correct?
Mr. ISAKSON. That is right, $3,500 a year for each of the first 2
years you occupy it as a resident.
Ms. MIKULSKI. Here is the question: There are two houses for sale.
One is a foreclosed property and one is a regular homeowner ready to
sell. The question I get from non-profits and people is: Is the tax
credit going to depress by $7,000 the house that is not in foreclosure?
In other words, that it acts as a damper on price, and if you are in
good standing, you have a good mortgage but you are ready to sell for
whatever reasons, you are putting your house on the market, and next to
you is a foreclosed house and that is going to get a $7,000 tax break,
they are saying: I am going to have to eat $7,000 to sell my house.
Can the Senator answer that question for me and for all who I think
are puzzled about the possible unintended consequences of this tax
break?
Mr. ISAKSON. The Senator's question is right on target. My answer to
you is not an opinion, it is a statement of what actually happened in
1975. In 1975, there was no demand for housing because the plethora of
houses that were on the market that had been foreclosed on that were
built new were not being sold. Nobody was in the market. When the
$2,000 tax credit was established and those houses began to be
absorbed, the housing values stabilized. So there was not a
disadvantage to the person who was trying to sell who was in the house,
it was actually an advantage.
The disadvantage you have right now is nobody knows where the bottom
is. Because foreclosures are taking place, the values are going down.
Those values, because of the cost-to-replace method of appraising,
which is used by all lenders, decline the value of appraisals of houses
that are pending on the market. It is a domino effect that affects
everybody. The tax credit, by absorbing those houses that have been
foreclosed upon and are vacant and are bringing down values, undergirds
the market and raises those values for everyone.
Ms. MIKULSKI. Stick with me.
Mr. ISAKSON. I am here.
Ms. MIKULSKI. Real-world situation. This house is foreclosed, which
means it already is going on the market at a depressed value, OK? The
consequence of a foreclosure is a melancholy event, not only for the
person who is losing their home, but the community feels it could lose
a neighborhood. I believe that is the gentleman's point, and it is also
a great concern to me. But because the foreclosed house is already
depressed, then a $7,000 tax credit comes in. The question is, for the
non-foreclosed, I do not understand how the price of the non-foreclosed
home is not dampened, and we, ourselves, are helping create a new
bottom.
Mr. ISAKSON. Well, two or three points. The first one I made is still
the valid point; that is, as those foreclosures are absorbed, values
stabilize and go back up, and that supports the values that were there
in the neighborhood for the people who are making their payments, not
in foreclosure. That is No. 1.
Forget about the tax credit. You ride through any neighborhood where
somebody is in a house that is in trouble and look at the sign. It will
say ``Drastic Reduction.'' ``Reduced.'' ``Foreclosed Property.'' ``Fire
Sale.'' ``Thirty Percent Discount.'' All you have to do is open any
newspaper in any urban area in American, and you can read the
classifieds and see that today. That is what is doing the terrible
damage. That is because those numbers are growing. So if the incentive
is to absorb those that have been foreclosed on, then you lessen that
downward pressure, you underwrite the house values, and the
neighborhoods begin to restore.
Remember this: The tax credit is only good for a year. It is only a
finite period of time to drive people to the market in hopes that they
will absorb those houses because if they do not, the only way they get
absorbed is through deeper discounts because regulators are going to
force those lenders to dump them. The deeper the discount, the more
depressed values are, and the more difficult it is for anybody to sell
their house at a reasonable value.
Ms. MIKULSKI. Well, first of all, I thank the Senator for explaining
this. You can understand the origin of these questions. It is not only
what I feel, but those working in our communities, those trying to sell
homes, they all feel pretty much the same way. But I thank the Senator
for answering that question, and we thank him for the expertise he
brings to this debate.
Mr. President, what is the parliamentary situation?
The ACTING PRESIDENT pro tempore. The time for morning business is
about to expire.
Ms. MIKULSKI. Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
The ACTING PRESIDENT pro tempore. The clerk will call the roll.
The bill clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Ms. MIKULSKI. I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum
call be rescinded.
The ACTING PRESIDENT pro tempore. Without objection, it is so
ordered.
Ms. MIKULSKI. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that morning
business be extended for 10 additional minutes.
The ACTING PRESIDENT pro tempore. Without objection, it is so
ordered.
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