[Congressional Record Volume 154, Number 54 (Monday, April 7, 2008)]
[Senate]
[Pages S2632-S2634]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
UNANIMOUS-CONSENT REQUEST--S. 2664
Mr. REID. Mr. President, I appreciate my friend yielding the floor.
We are waiting for the Republican leader, who is on his way down here.
Good, he is here. But I do express my appreciation to my friend from
Tennessee for yielding the floor.
I wish to speak briefly on the subject of the Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance bill, known as FISA. Everyone knows this is a very
important issue. The Presiding Officer, a member of the Intelligence
Committee and a member of the Judiciary Committee, has worked as hard,
if not harder, than anyone else on this issue, and I would acknowledge
his wide breadth of knowledge on this important piece of legislation.
We have relied on the Presiding Officer to give us direction and
understanding of this bill, and he has done that.
We all agree on the need to strengthen the Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance Act of 1978. Congress has modernized the act many times
since then, and there is broad agreement on improvements that should be
made now. I have said many times we need to give the Intelligence
community all the tools it needs without compromising the privacy of
law-abiding Americans.
The Senate passed its bill in early February. The House, which passed
a bill on this subject last November, passed a new version before the
Easter recess. The new House bill is similar to the Senate bill,
although there remains disagreement over the issue of immunity. In any
event, the two Houses must resolve their differences so the final bill
can be enacted.
The President keeps giving speeches saying the House must yield to
his demand to pass the Senate bill. But that thing we call the
Constitution keeps
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getting in the way. You can't pass legislation unless the House and the
Senate put their stamp of approval on this, and the House has not been
willing at this point to move. That is how our system works. The
President must work with the Democrats in Congress to find common
ground and also give some direction to Republicans in the House and the
Senate to negotiate this.
We have tried, since this legislation passed, to work out some type
of a compromise. Legislation is the art of compromise. A number of
meetings have been scheduled, but with rare exception, Democrats have
been meeting with themselves. The Republicans have not been coming to
these meetings. There are some positive signs the Republican position
may be thawing. I hope that is true. We need good will on all sides to
finish this important piece of legislation.
On several occasions, I have proposed a 30-day retroactive extension
of the law that expired in February, so the so-called Protect America
Act can move forward, at least for a limited period of time. My purpose
is to make sure there is no gap in the intelligence-gathering capacity
and to set a deadline for final action on a long-term bill. But the
President has threatened to veto such a bill, and it has been blocked
procedurally by the Republicans.
So I now again propose such an extension. The Republicans may again
object. If they do, they bear responsibility for the fact this law is
not in place.
Eventually, the President and Republican leaders must come to the
negotiating table for the good of the country. We believe that is
something that needs to be done and can be and should be done.
I now ask unanimous consent that the Senate proceed to the immediate
consideration of Calendar No. 583, S. 2664, a 30-day extension of the
Protect America Act; that further, the bill be read a third time and
passed, the motion to reconsider be laid upon the table, with no
intervening action or debate.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
Mr. McCONNELL. Mr. President, reserving the right to object, I will
make a short statement in response to what the majority leader has said
before making an objection.
Last August, we passed a 6-month authorization which we called the
Protect America Act, and it gave us plenty of time to complete our
work. Yet our Democratic colleagues didn't put a bill on the Senate
Floor until the week before Christmas. Even then, a Democratic
filibuster forced the majority to pull it. We should have turned to it
at the start of the year. Instead, we went to Indian health care. That
caused another delay, which forced another extension. Our Democratic
colleagues claimed this extension would give us enough time to complete
our work. Unfortunately, that extension has come and gone.
The Senate used that time to overwhelmingly pass a bill that gives
our intelligence professionals the tools they need to protect good
corporate citizens whose assistance is essential. As a result, the
Senate bill--the bipartisan Rockefeller-Bond bill--is the bill we know
can get a Presidential signature. We also know a majority of the House,
on a bipartisan basis, would pass it, if they had a chance to. Instead,
the House has not used that time wisely. It refused to pass a bill that
meets the minimum required criteria.
So now our Democratic colleagues want yet another extension as cover
for their failure to responsibly act. What is needed, to keep the
program going, is not another extension, not another delay. Rather, we
need to get serious in protecting companies that helped protect our
country. Right now, these companies face multibillion dollar lawsuits
because they answered our call for help. We asked them to come help us.
The Government is not in the communications business. They will not
continue to help us if they are sued out of existence for doing so. If
they do not help us, then, of course, we will not have a program at
all.
In short, to ensure the continued functioning of this vital
intelligence program, we need to protect our intelligence operations,
not the trial lawyers. To address that concern, I ask unanimous consent
to modify the UC the majority leader offered by including an amendment
at the desk that would enact the liability protections passed by the
Senate on an overwhelming bipartisan vote of 68 to 29. That is the
liability title of the Rockefeller-Bond bill.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
Mr. REID. Mr. President, I object.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Objection is heard.
Mr. McCONNELL]. Mr. President, if it is appropriate at this time, I
object to the original unanimous consent request.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Objection is heard.
Mr. REID. Mr. President, I appreciate my friend, the Republican
leader, coming to the floor and objecting to this rather than having
someone do it. He gave his explanation, and I appreciate that. It would
have been easy for anyone on the other side to object, and I appreciate
his laying out the reasons.
But I would say this is not the way to negotiate on the Senate Floor.
We have tried. Senator Rockefeller supported the Senate position. I
didn't, but Senator Rockefeller did and a number of Democrats supported
the Senate-passed position and that was something Senator Rockefeller
recognizes. As a result of that, he has tried very hard--February,
March, and, of course, he is also working in April--to try to work
something out. But as I indicated, he has called meetings and
Republicans would not come. Even the people leading the committee,
Senator Bond and others, wouldn't show up for the meetings to try to
work something out.
Initially, the White House directed none of its people to come. It is
a little tough to work something out when that is, in fact, what is
happening. The House must be involved. As I have indicated, that is the
Constitution.
We pass a lot of things the House disagrees with. They pass things
there that we disagree with. No matter how foolish they may think we
are or we think they are, we have to work together and get things
passed. That is where we are with this legislation.
I would say to my friend, there is no need to criticize trial lawyers
and try to focus blame on any one group of people. There are a lot of
consumer organizations that have nothing to do with trial lawyers, who
really do not like what the Senate did and they have really made their
voices heard.
My friend said this unanimous consent request is cover for failure to
responsibly act. I would say I think we are at the point where we are
as a result of the White House's irresponsibility. Many say what was
done in the Senate is only something to protect the telephone
companies, the President, and Vice President from liability. We have
even gone so far as to say if, in fact, there is liability, and the
phone companies are not responsible for having done this--that they
were following orders from the White House or whomever they follow
orders from, someone in one of the intelligence communities--then the
Government should pay for it. It is called substitution.
Senator Levin has pushed this a long time, as has Republican Senator
Arlen Specter. It is not as if we are not trying to work through this.
It just appears to me, as has happened for more than 7 years with this
administration, it is the President's way or no way. I think we have
come to the realization here that it is not going to be the President's
way. He needs to work with us.
We believe the actions of the President have been irresponsible. But
that is what legislation is all about. His people and the Republicans
in the Senate and the House should work with us to see if we can come
up with something. Just ignoring us is no way to resolve the issue
because it appears pretty clear the House is not blinking.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The minority leader is recognized.
Mr. McCONNELL. At the risk of prolonging this for just one more
moment, it is not a solution to absolve the communications companies of
the financial responsibility by having the taxpayers of the United
States pick up the tab. What is inappropriate here is litigation in the
wake of a response to the Government to protect American citizens. The
Federal Government is not in the communications business, not in the
telephone business. There will be no program without the companies. It
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the litigation itself that endangers the program, not just the amount
of money that might be awarded. Having the taxpayers in effect pay the
plaintiffs' lawyers is not the kind of solution that is going to
continue the program.
This is an area that cries out for bipartisanship, and that is
exactly what happened in the Senate. By an overwhelming vote of 68 to
29, a substantial--I guess every single one of the 29 were Democrats--a
significant number of Democrats, more than half, voted for this
bipartisan bill. We know for a fact there are 21 Democrats in the House
who support what the Senate did. If you add those 21 Democrats to the
Republicans in the House, we know there is a bipartisan majority in the
House of Representatives to pass the very same bill we passed in the
Senate.
I keep hoping we will somehow, through this process, evolve the same
kind of spirit that we were able to exhibit on a bipartisan basis in
passing the economic stimulus package earlier in the year and that we
exhibited last week on the housing bill, which presumably will pass
tomorrow or Wednesday. So I have not given up hope. But this is no
small matter. This is about protecting the American people from attacks
on our homeland.
We know we have successfully protected them for almost 6 years now,
since 9/11. I don't think we ought to let our guard down and assume
that our enemies have gone to sleep. This is an extremely important
issue. I hope at some point we will figure some way forward that gets
the job done, but I do not see it at the moment, and I do not think a
short-term extension will help us get there.
I yield the floor.
Mr. REID. Mr. President, one brief comment. As the Presiding Officer
knows, under FISA as passed in 1978, that is in effect no matter what
we do here.
Under the 1978 act, someone can go to a judge and ask that there be
this information obtained. We would like it to be streamlined. We think
the 1978 act should be modernized. We have been happy to work with the
White House and Republicans in the Senate and House to do that. I say
that in recent days we have seen signs that there is a thaw in the
Republican position.
Does that mean we can get things done? I don't know. But at least
people are beginning to talk a little bit and that is good. There have
been some staff level discussions that have been very good too. I hope
we can work together to bridge the differences between the House and
Senate and do everything we can to get that done, but also
understanding the 1978 FISA Act gives the President a lot of leeway to
get this done anyway.
Mr. McCONNELL. Mr. President, to prolong it one more moment here, if
that were adequate, we would not have passed the PROTECT America bill
in the first place. Clearly, the 1978 law is not adequate to meet
current challenges. There are many problems with the bill the House
took up and passed and sent back over here. One is that it would
require prior court approval before our intelligence professionals
could monitor foreign terrorists overseas. So the House bill doesn't do
anything about the problem. The Senate passed a good bill. I hope at
some point the House will wake up here and do what is necessary to
protect America.
In any event, the issue is not going away. The program may go away if
we can't figure a way to get the job done. This is a very, very serious
problem and I appreciate the good faith and attitude of the majority
leader. The Senate is really not the problem here. Hopefully at some
point the House will realize the best path forward.
Mr. REID. Never let it be said that I tried to get in the last word.
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