[Congressional Record Volume 154, Number 25 (Thursday, February 14, 2008)]
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PROVIDING FOR ADOPTION OF H. RES. 979, RECOMMENDING THAT HARRIET MIERS
AND JOSHUA BOLTEN BE FOUND IN CONTEMPT OF CONGRESS, AND ADOPTION OF H.
RES. 980, AUTHORIZING COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY TO INITIATE OR
INTERVENE IN JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS TO ENFORCE CERTAIN SUBPOENAS
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Madam Speaker, by direction of the Committee on Rules,
I call up House Resolution 982 and ask for its immediate consideration.
The Clerk read the resolution, as follows:
Resolved, That House Resolution 979 and House Resolution
980 are hereby adopted.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentlewoman from New York is recognized
for 1 hour.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Madam Speaker, for the purpose of debate only, I yield
the customary 30 minutes to the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Lincoln
Diaz-Balart). All time yielded during consideration of the rule is for
debate only.
General Leave
Ms. SLAUGHTER. I ask unanimous consent that all Members have 5
legislative days within which to revise and extend their remarks and
insert extraneous material into the Record.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the
gentlewoman from New York?
There was no objection.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Madam Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may
consume.
Madam Speaker, H. Res. 982 provides that upon its adoption, House
Resolution 979 and House Resolution 980 are hereby adopted.
House Resolution 979 recommends that the House of Representatives
find Harriet Miers and Joshua Bolten, the White House Chief of Staff,
in contempt of Congress for refusal to comply with subpoenas duly
issued by the Judiciary Committee.
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House Resolution 980 authorizes the Judiciary Committee to initiate
or to intervene in any judicial proceedings to enforce certain
subpoenas.
Madam Speaker, I've had so many requests for time that I will cut my
own time short. I simply want to give some reasons why it's important
that we're here today.
In my 21 years in the House, I have known that there were Members who
came to Congress simply hoping that throughout their career they will
always land on the safe square; not wanting to take a vote that might
challenge them in any way, not wanting to take a vote that might
require explanation. Fortunately, this is the safe square today.
What we are doing here today is protecting the Constitution of the
United States of America, which all of us are pleased, when we come
here, to raise our hand and swear so to do. It is critically important
that we protect the powers of the Congress of the United States for
future generations. It would be dreadful if a future President, having
looked back over the recent events, used it as a precedent.
We have a strong case on the merits, is the first point I want to
make. The administration's assertions of executive privilege are weak,
excessively broad, and unprecedented. We win the executive privilege
argument both on legal grounds and our compelling need for requested
information.
Aside from prevailing on the merits of the executive privilege
dispute, enforcing our subpoenas is part and parcel of our current
ability to perform effective oversight. If we accept the White House
stonewalling in this instance, the House, in the future, will not be
able to conduct its oversight. And every future President can view
Congress, not as a coequal branch of this government, but as
subordinate to the executive.
The enforcement of the subpoenas in this investigation seeks to
strengthen, rather than weaken, the House's prerogatives by
demonstrating that we are serious about citizens resisting the issuance
of validly authorized congressional subpoenas. If we countenance a
process where subpoenas can be readily ignored, where a witness, under
a duly authorized subpoena, doesn't even bother to appear, where
privilege can be asserted on the thinnest of reeds and the broadest
possible manner, then we have already lost, and we may be in much more
danger than even we believe.
There's ample precedent supporting the House's prerogative to
initiate a civil action. If we pursue this course of action and it
proves to be legally incorrect, then we here in Congress, where the
laws are passed, can take necessary steps to correct that procedure. If
we do not pursue this course of action at all, we, again, have already
lost.
There are some who believe that the court will say that indeed we
have no rights here. If that is the case, if that even should be a
possibility, then I think we have to say that if the Justice Department
has become that politicized and that weak, then we are in worse shape
in this democracy than we know.
Madam Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Madam Speaker, I would like to
thank the gentlelady from New York (Ms. Slaughter) for the time, and I
yield myself such time as I may consume.
Madam Speaker, I was in the funeral of our distinguished friend and
colleague, Congressman Lantos, someone whom I admired very, very much
and who was a personal friend. I was standing by the ranking member of
the Rules Committee.
At the time during the funeral, the House was in recess subject to
the call of the Chair under the understanding that we would not come
back into session until after the funeral. And I was most disturbed and
hurt and pained when, even though the funeral was still proceeding and
distinguished guests were speaking, the bells rang that the House was
going back into session and I had to leave.
Because of my obligation today, I have the assignment, as a member of
the Rules Committee, to be here during this rule. I had to leave the
funeral to be here today. It's most unfortunate, and I'm very, very
sorry that the day has begun in that ultimately unfortunate fashion.
Madam Speaker, today the majority proposes that the House consider a
rule that, according to the Parliamentarian, is unprecedented in the
history of this institution. It will prevent any and all debate on two
contempt motions against former White House Counsel Harriet Miers and
White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten.
A contempt resolution is a privileged matter because it directly
concerns the constitutional rights and privileges of
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the House. Chapter 17, section 2 of House Practice states, ``Such a
resolution may be offered from the floor as privileged, because the
privileges of the House are involved.''
The action of the majority today is most unfortunate. Never before in
the history of this House has a contempt resolution, one of the highest
questions regarding the rights and privileges of this institution, been
treated in such an underhanded manner. If this rule is adopted, there
will be no debate, no vote, and the contempt resolutions will magically
and automatically be hereby adopted when this rule is adopted.
Now, if the majority believes the contempt resolution to be correct,
the just and proper course of action to assert the rights of this
institution would be to debate and vote on the resolution.
The majority leadership is subverting the rights of every Member of
this House, allegedly in order to assert the rights of this House. The
irony can escape no one. These are the constitutional rights of this
institution that are in question, and not one Member of this
institution is going to be allowed to discuss it or vote, to have a
vote on these resolutions.
The majority's attempt to rush this contempt resolution through the
House will have repercussions that many Members may not be aware of.
And so I urge my colleagues to pay close attention because, by this
action, the House majority risks causing great harm. It risks causing
grave harm and undermining Congress's oversight authority for
generations to come, and here is why.
The administration is claiming executive privilege, and any attempt
to force testimony from the President's former counsel and his Chief of
Staff will be fought by the administration within the courts. This
could very possibly lead to the courts ruling that Congress does not
have civil contempt authority, for example; that the U.S. Attorney, for
example, does not have to prosecute criminal citations against
executive officials or that the President's senior advisors are
absolutely immune from compelled testimony before Congress. Any of
those rulings would weaken Congress's ability to conduct oversight in
the future, and a weakened Congress means a strengthened executive.
This is not an extreme or farfetched theory, Madam Speaker.
Administrations from both parties have claimed executive privilege for
many decades. The former Attorney General, for example, Janet Reno,
stated, and I quote, ``the President and his immediate advisors are
absolutely immune from testimonial compulsion by a congressional
committee, because subjecting a senior Presidential advisor to the
congressional subpoena power would be akin to requiring the President
himself to appear before Congress on matters relating to his
constitutionally assigned functions.''
What the majority is doing today is needlessly tempting a court loss
that could gravely undermine Congress's oversight authority, the very
authority the majority is allegedly seeking to protect. If Congress
loses in the courts, we could forever disable one of our most important
powers, the power of oversight. And for what in return, Madam Speaker?
Harriet Miers is no longer with the administration; Alberto Gonzales is
no longer Attorney General. But the majority, with its action today,
risks quite a bit.
Let's remember, Members will not even get the opportunity to vote on
these resolutions today. And that's not only uncalled for, but
absolutely unprecedented. Members will only be able to vote on this
rule. Once the rule passes, so do the two resolutions and so does the
majority's gamble.
So, back in July, the Judiciary Committee cited both Mr. Bolten and
Ms. Miers for contempt of Congress. Now, here we are, 8 months later,
considering these two contempt resolutions, but not really, just the
rule. By passing the rule, automatically those contempt resolution will
be passed, after an emergency Rules Committee meeting last night.
So the question is, why the rush? For some reason the majority feels
that after 8 months, now this is a pressing issue. But I can think of a
large list of other issues that I feel that Americans would rather we
address; none more than considering the FISA bill that the Senate
approved this week to give the administration the ability to protect
the United States from terrorist attacks.
The tragic events of September 11, 2001, taught us many lessons, and
one of the lessons we learned that day was that our Nation must remain
aggressive in our fight against international terrorism. We must always
stay one step ahead of those who wish to harm America, and now is not
the time to tie the hands of our intelligence community. And the
majority seeks to leave today and go home without addressing this
issue.
The modernization of the foreign intelligence surveillance into the
21st century is a critically important national priority, and I'm
pleased that several of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle
agree as well.
On January 28, 21 members of the Blue Dog Coalition sent a letter to
the Speaker in support of the Senate FISA legislation. The letter
states, and I quote, ``The Senate FISA Rockefeller-Bond legislation
contains satisfactory language addressing all these issues, and we
would fully support the measure should it reach the House floor without
substantial change. We believe these components will ensure a strong
national security apparatus that can thwart terrorism across the globe
and save American lives here at home.''
Madam Speaker, I will insert the letter sent by the Blue Dogs to the
Speaker into the Record.
Dear Madam Speaker: Legislation reforming the Foreign
Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) is currently being
considered by the Senate. Following the Senate's passage of a
FISA bill, it will be necessary for the House to quickly
consider FISA legislation to get a bill to the President
before the Protect America Act expires in February.
It is our belief that such legislation should include the
following provisions: Require individualized warrants for
surveillance of U.S. citizens living or traveling abroad;
Clarify that no court order is required to conduct
surveillance of foreign-to-foreign communications that are
routed through the United States; Provide enhanced oversight
by Congress of surveillance laws and procedures; Compel
compliance by private sector partners; Review by FISA Court
of minimization procedures; Targeted immunity for carriers
that participated in anti-terrorism surveillance programs.
The Rockefeller-Bond FISA legislation contains satisfactory
language addressing all these issues and we would fully
support that measure should it reach the House floor without
substantial change. We believe these components will ensure a
strong national security apparatus that can thwart terrorism
across the globe and save American lives here in our country.
It is also critical that we update the FISA laws in a
timely manner. To pass a long-term extension of the Protect
America Act, as some may suggest, would leave in place a
limited, stopgap measure that does not fully address critical
surveillance issues. We have it within our ability to replace
the expiring Protect America Act by passing strong,
bipartisan FISA modernization legislation that can be signed
into law and we should do so--the consequences of not passing
such a measure could place our national security at undue
risk.
Sincerely,
Leonard L. Boswell, ------, Mike Ross, Bud Cramer, Heath
Shuler, Allen Boyd, Dan Boren, Jim Matheson, Lincoln
Davis, Tim Holden, Dennis Moore, Earl Pomeroy, Melissa
L. Bean, John Barrow, Joe Baca, John Tanner, Jim
Cooper, Zachary T. Space, Brad Ellsworth, Charlie
Melancon, Christopher P. Carney.
The extension of this important program is set to expire at 11:59
p.m. tomorrow night. After that, our ability to conduct surveillance on
foreign terrorists will be severely hampered. It's time to make our
country safer, and Congress needs to act today. The House should vote
on the Senate measure, and we should do it now, instead of debating
these contempt motions in an unprecedented and uncalled-for fashion.
Today I will give all Members of the House an opportunity to vote on
a bipartisan, long-term modernization of FISA. I call on my colleagues
to join with me in defeating the previous question so that we can
immediately move to concur in the Senate amendment and send the bill to
the President to be signed into law before the current law expires and
our Nation is at greater risk.
Madam Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to have the text of the
amendment and extraneous material inserted into the Record prior to the
vote on the previous question.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the
gentleman from Florida?
There was no objection.
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Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Madam Speaker, I reserve the
balance of my time.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Madam Speaker, I am pleased to yield 4 minutes to the
gentleman from Michigan, the distinguished chairman of the Judiciary
Committee, Mr. Conyers.
Mr. CONYERS. Madam Speaker, I will insert into the Record from
today's New York Times, ``Time to Vote Contempt.''
[From the New York Times, Feb. 14, 2008]
Time To Vote Contempt
Alberto Gonzales may be out, but the country is still
waiting for a full accounting of how he and his White House
patrons cynically politicized the Justice Department.
Congress is rightly asking questions about the actions of yet
another United States attorney: New Jersey's Christopher J.
Christie. The House also needs to stop procrastinating and
vote to hold witnesses in contempt for refusing to testify in
the wider scandal.
Federal prosecutors must be scrupulously nonpartisan. Mr.
Christie, a Republican activist who got his job despite a
lack of trial and criminal-law experience, has gone up to the
line of acceptable behavior--and possibly crossed it.
He began an investigation of Senator Robert Menendez, a New
Jersey Democrat, late in a hard-fought election campaign. The
charges now appear baseless, but at the time the news
provided a big boost to Mr. Menendez's Republican opponent.
Mr. Christie went against a long Justice Department
presumption against opening investigations or bringing
indictments right before an election, to avoid affecting the
outcome.
There are also questions about Mr. Christie's decision to
award, without competitive bidding, a lucrative contract to
monitor a company accused of consumer fraud. The winner?
Former Attorney General John Ashcroft, an influential
Republican who was once Mr. Christie's boss. Senate and House
leaders have asked the Government Accountability Office to
investigate.
Some of the people who likely know the most about the role
politics has played in the Bush Justice Department have
defied Congressional subpoenas to testify. Joshua Bolten, the
White House chief of staff, and Harriet Miers, the former
White House counsel, contend that they are protected from
testifying by executive privilege. That is not enough. They
have a legal obligation to appear before Congress and plead
that privilege to specific questions.
The House Judiciary Committee voted in July to hold Mr.
Bolten and Ms. Miers in contempt. The House's Democratic
leadership has been trying to figure out the pros and cons
ever since. The public needs to hear the testimony of these
officials (along with Karl Rove, who is also refusing to
appear), and the full House should vote as quickly as
possible to hold them in contempt.
The House should also approve a resolution authorizing the
Judiciary Committee to go to court to enforce the contempt
citations if the current attorney general, Michael Mukasey,
as expected, refuses to do so.
The stakes are high. There are people in jail today,
including a former governor of Alabama, who have raised
credible charges that they were put there for political
reasons. Congress's constitutionally guaranteed powers are
also at risk. If Congress fails to enforce its own subpoenas,
it would effectively be ceding its subpoena power. It would
also be giving its tacit consent to the dangerous idea of an
imperial president--above the law and beyond the reach of
checks and balances.
The founders did not want that when they wrote the
Constitution, and the voters who elected this Congress do not
want it today.
Ladies and gentlemen of the House, the resolution we are considering
today is not steps that I take as chairman easily or lightly. It's been
8 months that we've tried to negotiate, nine letters, but this is what
is necessary to protect the constitutional prerogatives as a coequal
branch of government in this democracy of ours.
I believe the investigation we have been engaged in is an important
one. And it's not about whether the U.S. Attorneys can serve at the
pleasure of the President. They clearly can and do. But it concerns
whether the American people can be assured that their laws are being
fairly and impartially enforced by the United States Department of
Justice. That's why we're here.
In order to pursue this investigation, we've done what committees in
the Congress have traditionally done: We've sought our documents and
testimony initially on a voluntary basis and through compulsory process
only as a last resort. The investigation did not begin with the White
House but has ended up there only after the review of thousands of
pages of documents and obtaining the testimony and interviews of nearly
20 current and former Department of Justice employees.
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We have been open at all times to any reasonable compromise and have
been fully respectful and cognizant of the prerogatives of the
executive branch. As a matter of fact, I have written the White House
counsel on no less than nine separate occasions, and talked with him
seeking a compromise on this matter.
What I am not open to, as the chairman of Judiciary, is accepting a
take-it-or-leave-it offer which would not allow us access to
information that we need, would not even provide for a transcript, and
would prevent us from seeking any additional information in the future.
That is the only proposal we've ever received from White House counsel,
and so I would hope that all of the Members in this body, as an
institutional matter, recognize the problems inherent in such an
approach.
Now, some may argue that the stakes in this confrontation, and I
think that's what's been suggested already, are so high that we cannot
afford to risk that we might lose. Well, I'd say to them that if we
countenance a process where our subpoenas can be readily ignored, where
a witness under a duly authorized subpoena doesn't even have to bother
to show up or tell us that they're not coming, where privilege can be
asserted on the thinnest of bases and in the broadest possible manner,
then we've already lost.
This is not a matter of vindicating the Judiciary Committee; and if
you're really concerned about Congress' rights, which I think all of us
are, you would contact the White House counsel's office.
Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Madam Speaker, I yield 4 minutes
to the distinguished ranking member of the Judiciary Committee, Mr.
Smith of Texas.
Mr. SMITH of Texas. Madam Speaker, I rise in strong opposition to the
rule.
Yesterday, House Democrats said that Congress does not have enough
time to pass critical FISA modernization legislation to keep America
safe from foreign terrorists. Today, we are wasting Congress' time on
an issue that does nothing to make our Nation safer. Clearly, the
Democratic majority is out of touch with the needs of our intelligence
community and is placing Americans' lives at risk.
On the eve of the expiration of critical intelligence legislation,
the House Democratic majority has chosen to put extreme partisanship
ahead of our country's safety. Apparently, the Democratic majority
cares more about the alleged steroid use of a few baseball players and
the personnel decisions of the White House than they do about promoting
national security.
Last year, Admiral McConnell, the Director of National Intelligence,
warned Congress that the intelligence community was missing two-thirds
of all overseas terrorist communications, endangering Americans' lives.
Congress enacted the Protect America Act to close this terrorist
loophole.
Now House Democrats are going to let the Protect America Act expire.
If the act expires, we will return to the status quo, unable to begin
any new foreign intelligence surveillance without a court order and
risk losing two-thirds of all foreign intelligence.
Today we find ourselves at two very dangerous thresholds: first,
expiration of legislation vital to this Nation's national security, the
Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. The House Democratic majority
has let this legislation lapse without even allowing a straight up-or-
down vote on the bipartisan Senate bill approved earlier this week by a
vote of 68-29. Instead of reauthorizing FISA, the Democratic majority
chooses to take us to another threshold, that of a needless
constitutional confrontation in the courts over the dismissal of a
handful of United States Attorneys.
We know that the President has the authority to dismiss U.S.
Attorneys. We know that his executive privilege claims are consistent
with those made by previous Presidents for decades. We know that by
tilting at the executive privilege windmill we risk severely
undermining the very oversight authority we would want to protect. But
most of all, we know that reauthorization of FISA is infinitely more
important than this spat over executive privilege.
Once again, we see why Congress' approval rating is at an historic
low. It's
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because the Democratic majority engages in extreme partisanship and
ignores the people's business.
I urge my colleagues to oppose this resolution.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Madam Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from
North Carolina (Mr. Miller).
Mr. MILLER of North Carolina. Madam Speaker, I am not overly
concerned by what the courts ultimately decide executive privilege
covers. The Bush administration's claim of executive privilege here
goes well beyond any privilege ever recognized by any court decision,
but the Republic can obviously survive a court decision on the narrow
question of the exact extent of executive privilege.
But, Madam Speaker, the courts must decide. The President cannot
decide by decree. The President cannot announce with absolute,
unreviewable authority what information the administration will provide
or withhold.
The Framers of our Constitution had just fought a war against an
autocratic King. It is inconceivable that they intended to create an
executive with the powers that the Bush administration now claims and
that the minority now supports.
For the entire history of our Republic, our courts have recognized
that Congress needs information to carry out our constitutional duties,
to decide what the laws should be, to decide what to appropriate
Federal funds for, and that we cannot rely on information that is
voluntarily, cheerfully provided. Congress must have the power to
require information, including information that the President does not
want to provide, that the President sees as inconvenient or
embarrassing.
We must inquire into the need for new laws. We must inquire into how
existing laws are being administered. And the Supreme Court said half a
century ago that Congress' investigative powers are never greater than
when inquiring into abuse of authority or corruption by Federal
Government agencies.
Madam Speaker, the allegations here are very serious. Does the
minority think that these are trivial allegations? Prosecutorial
decisions cannot be used to reward political friends or punish enemies.
Elections have consequences, Madam Speaker; but they should never have
these consequences, not in America. Criminal prosecutions guided by
political concerns are fundamentally incompatible with democracy and
the rule of law.
The two resolutions that we are considering will allow the courts to
decide these questions of what information Congress can require in the
discharge of our constitutional duties. It will allow important
constitutional questions to be decided, as they should be decided in a
democracy, by the courts.
Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes
to the distinguished minority whip, Mr. Blunt of Missouri.
Mr. BLUNT. Madam Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding, and I'm
here to say that I am fully supportive of the prerogatives of the
Congress. I think the Congress has a right to ask for, receive, demand
information from the administration; but I don't think that right
extends to this case.
I think the idea that we would expect to get information that is
dealing with advice to the President on the status of at-will employees
is a loser for us on the House floor. It's a loser for us in court. It
will set back the prerogatives of the Congress; and beyond that, I
think the idea that we're here today, as we see the Foreign
Intelligence Surveillance Act get less value to us every day because
we're unwilling to deal with a permanent solution, this is the wrong
debate to have at any time. It's certainly the wrong debate to have at
this time.
And the idea that somehow if we extend that act, if we've done all we
could do by trying to extend an act, a bipartisan group of Members of
this Congress for various reasons said we don't want to extend and then
we come back today and we take our time focusing on a contempt charge
on two dedicated civil servants is the wrong thing to do at any time,
and it's particularly the wrong thing to do at this time.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Madam Speaker, I am pleased to yield 1 minute to the
distinguished Speaker of the House, the Honorable Nancy Pelosi of
California.
Ms. PELOSI. Madam Speaker, I thank the gentlelady, the Chair of the
Rules Committee, for yielding.
Today is a very sad day for us for more than one reason. One reason
is, though, the matter that is before us. I had hoped, frankly, that
this day would never have come, that the respectful negotiations that
should take place between article I, the legislative branch, and
article II, the executive branch, would have yielded the information
that is necessary for Congress to make its decisions.
I thank Chairman Conyers for his distinguished lifetime leadership of
protecting the Constitution of the United States. We all take that oath
of office, every single one of us who serves. Indeed, every person who
serves in any civic capacity in our country does so. Today, we are
honoring our oath of office with this resolution that is before us.
Again, I rise in sadness, not in confrontation. This is not a
conflict that the Congress has sought. In fact, as the distinguished
chairman of the Judiciary Committee has indicated, the committee has
repeatedly sought to avoid confrontation, repeatedly making requests
that have been ignored or rejected by the White House on completely
unacceptable terms.
The Judiciary Committee, indeed the Congress, is clearly entitled to
this information. It involves neither national security information nor
communications with the President. The President has no grounds to
assert executive privilege.
On the other hand, Congress has the responsibility of oversight of
the executive branch. I know that Members on both sides of the aisle
take that responsibility very seriously. Oversight is an institutional
obligation to ensure against abuse of power, in this case the
politicizing of the Department of Justice. Subpoena authority is a
vital tool for that oversight.
Today, we seek to require the Department of Justice to bring contempt
motions against Harriet Miers and Josh Bolten. When our resolution
passes, we hope the administration will realize that this House of
Representatives, this Congress, is serious about our constitutional
role of oversight and will reach a settlement with us over the
documents and testimony at issue. I still hold out the hope that they
will cooperate.
But if the administration fails to do so, and if it orders the
Department of Justice not to file contempt proceedings, we will then,
through this resolution, have the power ourselves to go to Federal
court and seek civil enforcement of our subpoenas.
The resolution before us today should not be a partisan issue. It
should not be. This isn't about Democrats or Republicans. Former
Congressman Mickey Edwards, who once served in the Republican
leadership, has said that the enforcement of the subpoenas in the U.S.
Attorney matter is about defending Congress, not a Democratic or a
Republican Congress, but the people's Congress, as a separate,
independent, and completely equal branch of government.
The subject of the Judiciary Committee's investigation involves
serious and credible allegations that Federal law enforcement was
politicized. Political manipulation of law enforcement undermines
public confidence in our criminal justice system. Congress must find
out what happened not just in terms of those who were fired but also
whether improper criteria were used to retain the remaining U.S.
Attorneys.
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We must have the information in order to protect against political
manipulation of law enforcement, and it must be provided in terms
consistent with our constitutional obligations.
The so-called White House offer refused to permit even a transcript
of any interviews and to permit questions on discussions and required
the committee to promise in advance not to seek further information.
This is beyond arrogance; this is hubris taken to the ultimate degree.
As former Congressman Edwards, again I remind, a former member of the
Republican leadership in the House, said, ``No Congress, indeed, no
lawyer, would ever agree to such an outrageous demand.''
Madam Speaker, we must continue in our efforts to restore our
Nation's fundamental system of checks and balances. This Congress and
future Congresses must have the ability to conduct meaningful
oversight. It is the
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hallmark of our constitutional democracy that has served us well for
more than two centuries.
Thank you, again, Chairman Conyers, for your leadership,
Congresswoman Linda Sanchez, chairwoman of the subcommittee that dealt
with this issue, Chairwoman Louise Slaughter, for the important work of
the Rules Committee on all of this. To the new Members of Congress, on
this issue of article I led by John Yarmuth, article I, protecting the
prerogatives of the Congress of the United States, we thank our new
Members for their leadership honoring their oath of office. And Brad
Miller, an expert on the subject in the Congress, has been a tremendous
resource to us as well.
Let us uphold our oath of office by voting for this resolution, my
colleagues. Let us restore the rule of law. Let us act to protect and
defend our constitution by ensuring appropriate congressional oversight
in all areas essential to the well-being of the American people.
I urge my colleagues to support this resolution.
Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes
to the distinguished ranking member of the Rules Committee, Mr. Dreier
of California.
(Mr. DREIER asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. DREIER. Madam Speaker, Speaker Pelosi is absolutely right, this
is a very, very sad day for all of us. We just memorialized our
colleague, Tom Lantos, and we have come back today to deal with an
issue which I believe is one that creates the potential to undermine
the power of the first branch of government.
Now, as has been said, if we looked at the potential court challenge
that we can see, this notion that has been put forward by our former
colleague, Mr. Edwards, that we are, in fact, a separate, independent,
and equal branch of government could be thrown out the window.
The other thing that's very sad about today, Madam Speaker, is the
fact that we are here with an absolutely unprecedented rule. Never
before in the history of the Republic has there been such a rule. This
rule actually undermines the deliberative nature of the people's House.
What we're doing is we are saying that there will be no debate
whatsoever, no debate whatsoever on these very important two contempt
resolutions, no debate whatsoever. When this rule is adopted, we will
see those two measures hereby adopted, meaning that there will be no
chance for us to, as a House, have the kind of debate that we did for
an hour upstairs in the Rules Committee. And so, we're throwing out the
window the notion of participation in a free and open debate.
And Madam Speaker, the other thing that is very sad about today is
that, while we were promised 1 year ago last month a new direction for
America, a new era of openness, an opportunity for free-flowing debate,
we will, with passage of this resolution, be on the brink of seeing the
110th Congress, and I will say to the distinguished chair of the
Committee on Rules, since she is presiding over this, Madam Speaker, we
will have, this Congress, adopted more closed rules than any Congress
in the history of the Republic.
I urge a ``no'' vote on this rule. And I urge strong support for the
resolution which will allow us to finally bring about modernization of
the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Madam Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the distinguished
majority leader of the House, Mr. Hoyer of Maryland.
Mr. HOYER. I thank the gentlelady for yielding.
We are dealing, in these days, with serious issues. And serious
people have been considering these issues in committee, and we will now
consider them on the floor. This matter has been pending now for over
half a year.
Madam Speaker, in 1885, a young scholar wrote an influential book
about the United States Congress entitled ``Congressional Government.''
And in that book he offered the following observations about
legislative branch oversight, and he said this, ``Quite as important as
legislation is vigilant oversight of the administration. Not any
particular administration, but of the other coequal branch of
government.''
He continued, ``It is the proper duty of a representative body to
look diligently into every affair of government and to talk much about
what it sees. The informing function of Congress, not just informing
ourselves, but informing the American public as well, the informing
function of Congress should be preferred even to its legislative
function.'' An interesting observation. Many years later, in 1913, that
young scholar, Woodrow Wilson, became President of the United States.
Congressional oversight of any administration is absolutely
imperative to the proper functioning of our government, to our system
of checks and balances, and to the fulfillment of our constitutional
duty. A President who is forced to answer for his administration's
actions, decisions, and conduct is a President who is less likely to
amass power beyond that which the Constitution proscribes for his
office or to imperil the welfare of our republic form of government.
And that is the constitutional interest that today's resolution
addresses.
I support the rule before us because I believe in a system of checks
and balances in which no branch holds itself above the constitutional
objectives of the sharing of authority, which the Founders wisely
believed was essential to protect against the abuse of that authority
by any one of those branches.
The issue before this body is not fundamentally whether the current
administration acted properly and within the law when it dismissed
seven U.S. attorneys in 2006, that may be the issue at some point in
time, but unless we have the information to get to that point, such a
question will be moot. Nor is this a partisan clash between a
Democratic House and a Republican President. Rather, the basic issue
before this House is this: whether this body and the committee system,
which is central to our duties to perform meaningful and vigorous
oversight, can simply be ignored by the executive branch when this body
seeks testimony and documents relevant to an important public policy
controversy.
As the New York Times noted this morning, ``If Congress fails to
enforce its own subpoenas, it would effectively be ceding subpoena
power. It would also be giving its tacit consent to the dangerous idea
of an imperial President, above the law, and beyond the reach of checks
and balances.''
What profit it a Nation if we include checks and balances within our
constitutional framework to protect our country's freedom, and more
importantly, our people's freedom, if, in fact, we honor it only in the
breach? And as Bruce Fein, the constitutional scholar and former
Department of Justice official during the Reagan administration, has
stated, ``If Congress shies from voting for contempt in this case,
secret government will become the rule.'' This is perhaps the most
secretive administration in our history. This is a danger to our
democracy.
He went on to say ``that Congress would be reduced to an ink blot on
the constitutional map.'' That is why every one of us, every one of the
435 of us who have sworn an oath to defend the Constitution of the
United States and uphold its laws, ought to vote for this resolution,
because it does not matter whether there is a Republican President or a
Democratic President, for them to refuse to respond to a subpoena of
the Congress of the United States, and to even come here and claim a
privilege, which they have not, our democracy will be lessened.
I urge my colleagues to carry out the intent and the vision of the
Founders and the writers of our Constitution. Support this resolution.
Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Madam Speaker, I would remind our
colleagues that one of the reasons why the minority is outraged with
the conduct of the majority today is that we are not even allowed to
debate nor vote on the contempt resolutions, but rather on a rule that
will self-adopt, automatically adopt even resolutions of this magnitude
of importance; totally unprecedented and uncalled for.
Madam Speaker, at this time, I yield 2 minutes to the distinguished
gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Sensenbrenner).
Mr. SENSENBRENNER. I thank the gentleman for yielding.
Madam Speaker, I rise in opposition to this resolution.
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Yesterday, the Democratic leadership tried to sweep a bipartisan FISA
bill under the rug, and today they're trying to throw the President's
Chief of Staff in jail. I am curious to know what happened to the
pledge of partnership with Republicans in Congress, and with the
President, and not partisanship.
The vote we are going to take this afternoon has been festering since
July, when the House Judiciary Committee decided to vote on holding
White House officials in contempt. This pandering to the left reflected
a political and unnecessary escalation on the part of the Democratic
majority.
The contempt resolution was approved on a straight party line vote in
the committee, and today's vote will be the same. The threat of losing
in court should be enough for this institution to back down from this
escalation.
My concern with the Democratic leadership's course of action is that
it will likely weaken Congress' position in situations where we
disagree with the President on matters of executive privilege. If the
Speaker and the House Judiciary Committee chairman really cared about
getting to the bottom of this matter, they could have taken the
nonpolitical route, such as directing the House Office of General
Counsel to file a civil lawsuit with the U.S. District Court for the
District of Columbia. This proposal, which I suggested last summer,
would be a legitimate effort to resolve our issues with the President
in an arena where the Congress would have equal footing.
So, what's next? How will we rehabilitate our image to give the
public confidence in the Congress? I don't think throwing the
President's Chief of Staff in jail will do the trick.
It amazes me that the Democratic leadership would bring such a
divisive matter to the floor so soon after receiving accolades for
working so well with the minority to pass an economic stimulus package.
I encourage my colleagues to vote ``no'' on this resolution.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Madam Speaker, I am pleased to yield 2 minutes to the
gentleman from New York, a member of the Rules Committee, Mr. Arcuri.
Mr. ARCURI. Madam Chairman, today is not about a FISA debate.
Actually, it's not even about whether or not Ms. Miers and Mr. Bolten
have a right to claim an executive privilege. What it is about is does
a person in this country have to follow the laws of the United States,
follow the rule of law, follow the Constitution and abide by a legally
administered subpoena.
And I guess the best way to talk about that is to draw a comparison.
Under the Constitution, a person has an absolute right to claim their
fifth amendment right against self-incrimination. So, if a person is
subpoenaed to testify in a criminal matter, they can't call the judge
up and say, ``Judge, I think I might have a fifth amendment problem
here. I'm not going to show up.'' The judge will tell them they have to
be in court and they have to assert their fifth amendment right after
they are asked a question. The same thing applies here. They have to
appear before Congress and at least assert that right before they can
claim some kind of privilege; otherwise, the entire system falls apart.
Oh, today is a very important day for Congress. We are taking up a
very, very important measure, and that is is the Constitution going to
be followed and are we going to do our constitutional job.
Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes
to the distinguished Member from California (Mr. Daniel E. Lungren).
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Mr. DANIEL E. LUNGREN of California. I thank the gentleman for
yielding.
Madam Speaker, I have prepared a whole series of remarks to respond
to the comments made on the floor as to the substance of the concept
citation. Unfortunately, because we're only able to debate the rule, we
don't have time to do that. Let me just try to make a couple of points
here very quickly.
First of all, the question is, is this the most important thing we
should be doing today? Is there a time limit on the action of the House
of Representatives that requires us to act on this today? And the
answer is no. This doesn't expire today. It doesn't expire tomorrow. It
doesn't expire the next day. We are able to do this anytime until the
end of this Congress.
But what does expire? The Protect America Act. It expires at midnight
tomorrow. We should be doing the Nation's business with respect to
that, rather than this. If, in fact, we are serious about the war on
terror; if, in fact, we are serious about gathering that information
which is necessary to protect us against those who would harm us and
those we represent, we would be acting on the FISA Act reconstitution
here today. We'd be acting on the Senate bill. That's the time limit.
There is no reason for scheduling this today. We have had 8 months to
schedule this. But yet we find that this is what we're going to be
dealing with before we go home. And we're going to say it is
unimportant as to whether or not we would continue with the Protect
America Act. Unimportant except in the opinion of the number one
intelligence officer in the United States, Admiral McConnell, who
served under Democrat and Republican administrations, who told us if we
allow this to go down, that is, the Protect America Act, we will close
our eyes for 60 percent of the legitimate terrorist targets around the
world prospectively.
What are we doing here?
Mr. ARCURI. Madam Speaker, I yield 2\1/2\ minutes to the gentlewoman
from California, the Chair of the Commercial and Administrative Law
Subcommittee (Ms. Linda T. Sanchez).
Ms. LINDA T. SANCHEZ of California. Madam Speaker, we have
reluctantly reached today's vote to hold former White House Counsel
Harriet Miers and White House Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten in contempt
of Congress.
Since March 9 of 2007, Chairman Conyers and I have patiently
negotiated in good faith to reach an accommodation with the White House
for documents and testimony relevant to the U.S. Attorney
investigation.
Mr. CANNON. Madam Speaker, will the gentlewoman yield?
Ms. LINDA T. SANCHEZ of California. Under normal instances, I would,
but I don't have the time. I apologize.
Mr. CANNON. I hope the gentlewoman will remain on the floor so that
on my time I will be able to yield for a colloquy.
Ms. LINDA T. SANCHEZ of California. I apologize to the gentleman, but
this is my time.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentlewoman will proceed.
Ms. LINDA T. SANCHEZ of California. Madam Speaker, we have patiently
negotiated in good faith to reach an accommodation with the White House
for documents and testimony relevant to the U.S. Attorney
investigation. Unfortunately, the White House has stubbornly refused to
move off its opening position, an unreasonable offer that testimony be
given without an oath or a transcript and that any testimony and
documents provided exclude internal White House communications. To have
negotiations, concessions by both sides are necessary. Otherwise, it's
just capitulation.
I was extremely disappointed that Ms. Miers, Mr. Bolten, and the
White House based their refusal to comply with our subpoenas on
sweeping claims of executive privilege and immunity that some experts
have called ``Nixonian in breadth.'' The subcommittee carefully
considered these claims in two separate meetings last year. In detailed
rulings, I found that these claims were not properly asserted and were
not legally valid. Even if the claims were properly asserted and
legally valid, the strong public need for information about the U.S.
Attorney firings substantially outweighs the assertion of executive
privilege here.
I was also very disappointed to hear from Attorney General Mukasey in
testimony before the Judiciary Committee last week that he will direct
the D.C. U.S. Attorney not to comply with the contempt statute, which
provides that the U.S. Attorney ``shall'' refer the contempt citation
to a grand jury for action after receiving it from the Speaker.
Members on both sides of the aisle should recognize the gravity of
this vote. If the executive branch is allowed to simply ignore
congressional subpoenas while Congress stands idly by, we will have
abdicated our role of oversight of the executive branch and undermined
our system of checks and balances. Further, our lack of action will
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be cited by future Presidents as justification for questionable claims
of executive privilege.
I hope that my colleagues on the other side will stand together in
support of this body's institutional prerogatives. Time is long overdue
for Congress to reassert itself as a co-equal branch of government.
I urge support of the rule and House resolutions 979 and 980.
Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Madam Speaker, I yield 4\1/2\
minutes to the gentleman from Utah (Mr. Cannon).
Mr. CANNON. Madam Speaker, I would ask the chairman of the
Subcommittee on Commercial and Administrative Law, who has oversight of
this matter and which committee I rank on, to remain on the floor so we
could have a colloquy on this issue.
It appears that she has left the floor. That's unfortunate. Her
response to my inquiry about yielding was that she didn't have enough
time, and we are standing here today with very little time to debate an
issue that is dramatically important. It's important for this
institution, and, by the way, people on both sides of the aisle have
said and the Speaker and majority leader have both made a point of how
important this issue is to this body. It is vitally important to me
that we retain the rights of this body as it relates to administration,
whether that's a Republican administration or Democratic
administration.
In his opening statements, Mr. Diaz-Balart gave a quote from former
Attorney General Janet Reno in which she said there was no right to do
what we're trying to do today. I would have loved to have asked the
chairman on the Subcommittee on Commercial and Administrative Law if
she thought that was the case or if she disagreed with what the scope
of the right of the administration is to not appear.
Obviously, there is a sense in this case that we ought to get
something done; and, in fact, we have done a great deal. We have had
hundreds of hours of depositions, literally tens of thousands of pages,
tens of thousands of e-mails. We have asked questions of everyone
involved in the matter in the case. And what have we come up with? I
wanted to ask the chairman what the evidence we are going to present to
the U.S. Attorney is that he can take and say, I have a need to get
this information from these people in the administration who won't show
up to the House. I have a need to understand these facts which seem to
be in confusion. I have a need to decide what between these two
different stories is the truth.
But we haven't said that to him. We don't have evidence that we can
give the U.S. Attorney. What we are giving to him is a desire to
continue a witch hunt which has produced up to today zero, nothing, as
far as I can tell; and I've been in every meeting, every hearing, and
followed on every single deposition that we have had. There is nothing
that indicates that anybody has lied or that there is a reason that the
White House has been involved. And, therefore, there is no reason that
I can understand, and I have asked many times on the record in
committee hearings what those reasons are, what it is, what the
discrepancies, what the problems are for which we need to subpoena
people in the White House and create a showdown, a showdown between our
institution and the White House. And I ask the gentleman, as the
chairman of the committee has just risen to his feet, and I would love
to yield to him if he is willing to answer that question: What are the
discrepancies?
Mr. CONYERS. We don't know because we can't get one sheet of paper
from Mr. Bolten and nobody else will talk to us. That's precisely why
we were forced to this position, sir.
Mr. CANNON. Reclaiming my time, Madam Speaker, I appreciate the
gentleman's position. The gentleman has said that eloquently in the
past on many occasions. But we are now talking about getting a
subpoena, enforcing a subpoena in a criminal process against people for
whom we have no evidence, as far as I can tell, and I will be happy to
yield to the gentleman if he has evidence, no evidence that they have
been involved.
There are no discrepancies in the testimony that we have had before
us, is there?
Mr. CONYERS. If the gentleman is so kind to yield again, we don't
have any evidence. We aren't accusing them of anything, sir. We're
merely seeking the documents that could be relevant to the
determination of whether the Department of Justice has been
politicized.
Mr. CANNON. Reclaiming my time, Madam Speaker, I appreciate the
gentleman's candor, and I appreciate the very gracious way the
gentleman has handled this whole investigation. But it comes back down
to this: we have no evidence.
Let me just finish by saying that having seen this, if there was a
conspiracy, and I know that the majority believes there is something
evil that is happening out there, then we ought to have given enough
time and enough context to be able to track that down and prove that
this administration has done something wrong.
As opposed to what the gentleman has just said, we have had a number
of statements by the chairman of this committee saying that there is
evidence of corruption. But we have had no evidence of corruption, none
at all adduced anywhere from all the investigations we have done, and
there is no basis for these contempt citations. I ask that we vote
against them.
Cooper & Kirk,
Washington, DC, December 4, 2007.
Hon. Lamar S. Smith,
Ranking Member, Committee on the Judiciary, House of
Representatives, Washington, DC.
Dear Mr. Smith: We write in response to your request for
our views regarding the legal issues raised by the Judiciary
Committee's resolution recommending that the House of
Representatives find Harriet Miers and Joshua Bolten in
contempt of Congress. Each of us has had substantial
experience in the Executive Branch, including in the Office
of Legal Counsel. Charles J. Cooper served as Assistant
Attorney General for the Office of legal Counsel from
November 1985 through July 1988. Howard C. Nielson, Jr.
served as Deputy Assistant Attorney General for the Office of
Legal Counsel from June 2003 through August 2005. In
addition, our law firm has successfully litigated a number of
significant separation of powers cases.
We have reviewed the opinions of the Justice Department
regarding the assertion of executive privilege and
testimonial immunity in response to the Miers and Bolten
subpoenas. We have also reviewed the committee report
relating to this matter, the additional views of the Chairman
and Subcommittee Chair, and the minority views. The positions
asserted by the Administration reflect the longstanding and
considered views of the Executive Branch, views repeatedly
affirmed by Administrations of both parties. These views were
held during our tenures in the Office of Legal Counsel, and
we continue to believe that they are sound. Moreover, we
believe that a decision by the House to hold Ms. Miers and
Mr. Bolten in contempt would likely be a legally futile
gesture that could ultimately undermine Congress's ability to
obtain information from the Executive Branch.
As an initial matter, even if the House votes to hold Ms.
Miers and Mr. Bolten in contempt, and even if a contempt
citation is referred to the appropriate United States
Attorney, the United States Attorney will have no choice but
to decline to take action on the matter. It has long been the
position of the Executive Branch that ``the criminal contempt
of Congress statute does not apply to the President or
presidential subordinates who assert executive privilege.''
Application of 28 U.S.C. 458 to Presidential Appointments of
Federal Judges, 19 Op. O.L.C. 350, 356 (1995) (opinion of
Assistant Attorney General Walter Dellinger). As then-
Assistant Attorney General Theodore B. Olson explained the
position of the Executive Branch in 1984:
``First, as a matter of statutory interpretation reinforced
by compelling separation of powers considerations, we believe
that Congress may not direct the Executive to prosecute a
particular individual without leaving any discretion to the
Executive to determine whether a violation of the law has
occurred. Second, as a matter of statutory interpretation and
the constitutional separation of powers, we believe that the
contempt of Congress statute was not intended to apply and
could not constitutionally be applied to an Executive Branch
official who asserts the President's claim of executive
privilege in this context.''
Prosecution for Contempt of Congress of an Executive Branch
Official Who Has Asserted a Claim of Executive Privilege, 8
Op. O.L.C. 101, 102 (1984); see also id. at 119, 129
(documenting similar positions taken by the Eisenhower and
Ford Administrations).
While the Chairman and Subcommittee Chair note that Justice
Department opinions such as the Dellinger and Olson memoranda
are not binding on Congress or the Judiciary, such opinions
are binding on members of the Executive Branch--including the
United States Attorney to whom a contempt citation would be
referred. Furthermore, because a prosecutor's ``decision
whether or not to prosecute . . . generally rests entirely in
his discretion,'' Wayte v. United States, 470 U.S. 598, 607
(1985), it is highly unlikely that Congress could obtain any
sort of judicial review of the United States Attorney's
refusal to submit the contempt citation to a grand jury.
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Assuming Congress could somehow obtain judicial review of
the claim of executive privilege, we believe that it could
not overcome that claim on the facts presented here. To be
sure, there is a paucity of judicial authority resolving
executive privilege disputes between Congress and the
Executive; still, the following factors should persuade a
court to uphold the claim of executive privilege here.
First, the threshold arguments that executive privilege has
not been, or cannot be, properly invoked to protect the
communications at issue here appear insubstantial. The
Chairman and Subcommittee Chair have identified no
authority--and we are aware of none--requiring the Executive
Branch to submit a privilege log to sustain a claim of
executive privilege in a legislative proceeding. The letter
sent to Chairman Conyers by Counsel to the President
Fielding, written ``at the direction of the President'' to
``advise and inform [Congress] that the President has decided
to assert Executive Privilege,'' Letter of Fred F. Fielding
to Chairmen Leahy and Conyers at 1 (June 28, 2007), plainly
suffices to invoke executive privilege under controlling
precedent. See In re Sealed Case, 121 F.3d 729, 744, n.16
(D.C. Cir. 1997). And In re Sealed Case clearly establishes
that executive privilege extends to ``communications
of presidential advisors which do not directly involve the
President,'' id. at 751, and protects ``communications
that these advisors and their staff author or solicit and
receive in the course of performing their function of
advising the President on official government matters''--
whether or not the President is aware of those
communications. Id. at 752. Given the essential role of
the President in appointing and removing United States
Attorneys, communications to or from senior presidential
advisors regarding the replacement of United States
Attorneys plainly fall within the scope of the privilege
recognized by In re Sealed Case. As the D.C. Circuit
explained, where ``the President himself must directly
exercise the presidential power of appointment and removal
. . . there is assurance that even if the President were
not a party to the communications over which the
government is asserting presidential privilege, these
communications nonetheless are intimately connected to his
presidential decisionmaking.'' Id. at 753.
Second, there is nothing novel or unprecedented in the
claim of privilege here. On the contrary, many historical
precedents support the Administration's refusal to disclose
confidential communications and deliberations relating to the
appointment or dismissal of executive officers. For example,
as early as 1886, the Cleveland Administration rejected
Congress's attempt to obtain communications relating to the
dismissal of a district attorney (the historical predecessor
of today's U.S. Attorneys). As President Cleveland explained,
``the documents related to an act (the suspension and removal
of an Executive Branch official) which was exclusively a
discretionary executive function.'' History of Refusals by
Executive Branch Officials to Provide Information Demanded by
Congress, 6 Op. O.L.C. 751, 767 (1982) (opinion of Assistant
Attorney General Theodore B. Olson); see also id. at 758-759
(discussing similar refusals to provide information regarding
the appointment or removal of executive officers by the
Jackson and Tyler Administrations). Furthermore, D.C. Circuit
precedent addressing executive privilege expressly recognizes
that ``confidentiality is particularly critical in the
appointment and removal context.'' In re Sealed Case, 121
F.3d 729, 753 (D.C. Cir. 1997).
Third, when the judiciary has adjudicated executive
privilege disputes between Congress and the Executive, it has
required Congress to establish that the information it seeks
``is demonstrably critical to the responsible fulfillment of
[Congress's] functions'' to overcome even a generalized claim
of executive privilege. Senate Select Committee on
Presidential Campaign Activities v. Nixon, 498 F.2d 725, 731
(D.C. Cir. 1974) (en banc). To satisfy this burden, it is not
enough for Congress to show that the information it desires
``may possibly have some arguable relevance to the subjects
it has investigated and to the areas in which it may propose
legislation.'' Id. at 733. Rather, it must identify
``specific legislative decisions that cannot responsibly be
made without access to materials uniquely contained in'' the
documents or testimony it seeks. Id. Furthermore, decisions
such as United States v. Nixon, 418 U.S. 683 (1974), and In
re Sealed Case that limit executive privilege to accommodate
the special needs of the criminal justice system offer little
support for Congress here. As the D.C. Circuit has explained:
``There is a clear difference between Congress's
legislative tasks and the responsibility of a grand jury, or
any institution engaged in like functions. While fact-finding
by a legislative committee is undeniably a part of its task,
legislative judgments normally depend more on the predicted
consequences of proposed legislative actions and their
political acceptability, than on precise reconstruction of
past events; Congress frequently legislates on the basis of
conflicting information provided in its hearings. In
contrast, the responsibility of the grand jury turns entirely
on its ability to determine whether there is probable cause
to believe that certain named individuals did or did not
commit specific crimes.''
Senate Select Committee, 498 F.2d at 732. Cf. Nixon, 418
U.S. at 713 (``Without access to specific facts a criminal
prosecution may be totally frustrated.'').
Given the voluminous documentary evidence and testimony
already provided by the Executive Branch--not to mention the
additional documents and testimony that the White House has
offered to make available in attempt to resolve this
controversy, see e.g., Letter of Fred F. Fielding to Chairmen
Leahy and Conyers at 1-2 (June 28, 2007)--it seems clear the
lingering factual ambiguities identified by the Committee
Chairman and the Subcommittee Chair are inadequate to
overcome even a generalized claim of executive privilege
under controlling precedent. And a judicial determination to
that effect would plainly prejudice Congress's ability to
obtain sensitive information from the Executive Branch not
only in this investigation but in future investigations as
well.
The Justice Department's determination that Ms. Miers is
immune from compulsion to testify before Congress likewise
reflects the longstanding and consistent position of the
Executive Branch. As Attorney General Reno explained in a
formal opinion to the President, ``It is the longstanding
position of the executive branch that `the President and his
immediate advisors are absolutely immune from testimonial
compulsion by a Congressional committee.' '' Assertion of
Executive Privilege with Respect to Clemency Decision, 23 Op.
O.L.C. 1, 4 (1999) (quoting Memorandum from John M. Harmon,
Assistant Attorney General, Office of Legal Counsel, Re:
Executive Privilege at 5 (May 23, 1977). This view is not
only that of the current Administration and the Clinton
Administration. As documented in Attorney General Reno's
opinion, this view also reflects the position of the Reagan,
Carter, and Nixon Administrations. See id. (collecting
opinions from Assistant Attorneys General Theodore B. Olson,
John M. Harmon, Roger C. Crampton, and William H. Rehnquist).
This view also reflects the position of the Johnson and
Truman Administrations. See History of Refusals, 6 Op. O.L.C.
at 771-72, 777-78. And as documented by the Justice
Department in its opinion regarding Ms. Miers, the Executive
Branch--including, again, Administrations of both parties--
have long taken the position that the same immunity extends
to former Presidents and their Advisors. See Memorandum from
Stephen G. Bradbury, Principal Assistant Attorney General
Office of Legal Counsel, Re: Immunity of Former Counsel to
the President from Compelled Testimony at 2-3 (July 10, 2007)
(documenting positions taken by the Truman and Nixon
Administrations).
In short, we believe the President's assertions of
executive privilege and testimonial immunity in this instance
are entirely constitutionally sound. We also believe that a
determination by the House to hold Mr. Bolten and Ms. Miers
in contempt of Congress would be futile as a legal matter and
might ultimately prejudice Congress's ability to obtain
information from the Executive Branch.
Sincerely,
Charles J. Cooper.
Howard C. Nielson, Jr.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Madam Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from
Kentucky (Mr. Yarmuth).
Mr. YARMUTH. I thank the distinguished chairwoman from the Rules
Committee, a native Kentuckyan and someone who has always stood for the
finest traditions of this body.
In November of 2006, the American people decided to give the
Democrats the control of the House of Representatives and the Congress.
I was fortunate enough to be elected as one of the 43 new Democrats in
that class.
And many people have said, in examining that election, oh, we were
elected because of the war in Iraq. But that's not what I heard. What I
heard when I was campaigning in 2006, and I think most of my colleagues
in this class would say the same thing, is we want to return the
Government to the tenets of the Constitution. We want to restore the
checks and balances that the Founding Fathers prescribed. We want to
make sure that this President and every President is held accountable,
is not above the law.
So when we came here, one of the things we did was to start talking
about article I, which established that all legislative powers herein
granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States. We started
wearing these buttons, article I buttons, and we offered them to
Members of both parties, hoping that this would not be a partisan issue
and not be an expression of partisanship but, instead, a respect for
the integrity of this institution.
Unfortunately, most of my colleagues on the other side chose not to
wear these buttons. They have chosen to make this a partisan issue in
spite of the fact that during the last 6 years before we took control
of the Congress, no subpoenas were issued against this President. No
efforts to hold him accountable were made, in spite of the fact that in
the prior administration a thousand subpoenas were offered by the
Republican Congress to the Democratic President.
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So, unfortunately, this has become a partisan issue when it shouldn't
be. To me this is all about institutional integrity, about restoring
the checks and balances.
Fundamental to our power, legislative power, is our ability to gather
information. If we do not stand up for our right to gather information,
then in spite of the fact that my colleagues on the other side have
said we may lose our prerogatives if we go to court, if we don't
challenge the President on this issue, we will have surrendered our
prerogatives; and that is the worst fate that we could commit this body
to.
So I would say, in closing, that many people look at polls today and
say the standing of the Congress is at its lowest ebb ever, and they
say maybe that's because we are not doing anything. I think it's
because the American people recognize that we have been negligent in
not upholding our responsibilities under the Constitution.
This is an important step in restoring the integrity of this
institution and restoring the confidence of the American people in this
body in its willingness to respond to the dictates of the Constitution.
Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes
to the distinguished gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Chabot).
Mr. CHABOT. Madam Speaker, rather than spinning our wheels on this
issue, there is a much more important issue that we should be dealing
with today, and the very safety of our Nation is at issue. I'm
disappointed that we have reached the point in this House that
reasonable minds could not prevail on an issue that involves the very
safety of the American people.
Last August Congress passed, and the President signed into law, the
Protect America Act. This critical legislation closed the gaps which
had previously caused the intelligence community to miss more than two-
thirds of all overseas terrorist communications, finally allowing the
United States to stay one step ahead of the terrorists.
The Senate amendments to H.R. 3773 would enable law enforcement and
the intelligence community to continue their counterterrorism efforts,
including working with telecommunications companies and allowing
officials to gather intelligence from potential foreign terrorists
outside the United States.
At the same time, this bill is mindful of our Constitution and the
protections it affords to U.S. citizens, whether they are inside or
outside the United States. Furthermore, the authority provided by the
bill would sunset in 6 years, allowing Congress to revisit any issues
that might arise.
We cannot afford to let the terrorists, particularly those who are
conspiring abroad, to have the upper hand. Our law enforcement and
intelligence communities must have every resource available to do their
jobs in keeping this Nation safe. I urge my colleagues to support the
United States, not the terrorists, by passing the Senate amendments to
H.R. 3773.
And I thank the gentleman from Florida for yielding.
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Ms. SLAUGHTER. Madam Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from
Michigan (Mr. Conyers), Chair of the Judiciary Committee.
Mr. CONYERS. I wanted to respond, or continue our discussion that was
raised by the gentleman from Utah. As a matter of fact, in our
resolution recommending that contempt of Congress be issued, we found
plenty of evidence of wrongdoing at the Department of Justice, nearly
100 pages of it. This was voted out of the committee. For example:
The decision to fire or retain some U.S. attorneys may have been
based in part on whether or not their offices were pursuing or not
pursuing public corruption or vote fraud cases based on partisan
political factors;
Department officials appear to have made false or misleading
statements to Congress, many of which sought to minimize the role of
White House personnel in the U.S. Attorney firings;
Actions by some department personnel may have violated civil service
laws.
Executive Summary
To date, the committee's investigation--which has reviewed
materials provided by the Department of Justice in depth and
obtained testimony from 20 current and former Department of
Justice employees--has uncovered serious evidence of
wrongdoing by the Department and White House staff with
respect to the forced resignations of U.S. Attorneys during
2006 and related matters. This includes evidence that: (a)
the decision to fire or retain some U.S. Attorneys may have
been based in part on whether or not their offices were
pursuing or not pursuing public corruption or vote fraud
cases based on partisan political factors, or otherwise
bringing cases which could have an impact on pending
elections; (b) Department officials appear to have made false
or misleading statements to Congress, many of which sought to
minimize the role of White House personnel in the U.S.
Attorney firings, or otherwise obstruct the Committee's
investigation, and with some participation by White House
personnel; and ( c) actions by some Department personnel may
have violated civil service laws and some White House
employees may have violated the Presidential Records Act.
Based on this evidence, and because of the apparent
involvement of White House personnel in the U.S. Attorney
firings and their aftermath, the committee has sought to
obtain relevant documents from the White House and documents
and testimony from former White House Counsel Harriet Miers--
who appears to have been significantly involved in the
matter--on a voluntary basis and, only after taking all
reasonable efforts to obtain a compromise, on a compulsory
basis. The committee's subpoenas have been met with
consistent resistance, including wide-ranging assertions of
executive privilege and immunity from testimony. This has
gone so far that the administration indicated in July that it
would refuse to allow the District of Columbia U.S.
Attorney's office to pursue any congressional contempt
citation against the White House's wishes. In addition to the
many infirmities and deficiencies in the manner in which the
White House Counsel has sought to assert executive privilege,
in the present circumstance such privilege claims would be
strongly outweighed by the committee's need to obtain such
information.
Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Madam Speaker, I would ask the
distinguished chairwoman how many speakers she has remaining.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Possibly five, Madam Speaker.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Florida has 4 minutes
remaining. The gentlewoman from New York has 10 minutes remaining.
Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida. I reserve at this time.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. I am pleased to yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman
from Ohio (Ms. Sutton) who serves on both the Committee on Rules and
Judiciary.
Ms. SUTTON. Madam Speaker, let us recall what this is all about. We
are here today because the now-resigned Chief of Staff to former
attorney, Alberto Gonzalez, ran a plan over a period of just under 2
years during which he maintained a revised list of U.S. attorneys to be
fired or retained. If prosecutors were placed on this list for
political reasons, or alternatively kept off because of a willingness
to engage in political prosecutions, these actions are not only
improper and illegal, but they constitute criminal abuse. These are
serious allegations, and we have a constitutional duty to pursue this
proceeding today.
Congress is not only entitled to look into this matter, we must
conduct a thorough oversight of the executive branch. Now, some of my
colleagues argue that the United States attorneys serve at the pleasure
of the President. However, it is very critical to note that throwing
out this term, ``at the pleasure of the President,'' may be accurate in
the sense that the President may fire somebody for no reason, Alberto
Gonzalez can fire somebody for no reason, but they can't fire him for
an illegal reason.
And that is what we are looking at here. The Committee on the
Judiciary Chairman Conyers testified yesterday that he pursued
documents from the White House and the testimony of Ms. Miers and from
Mr. Bolten for 8 long months, and in return the White House did not
provide a single document and specifically directed Ms. Miers and Mr.
Bolten to ignore the Judiciary Committee's subpoenas citing executive
privilege.
This is not a situation of exerting executive privilege, because Ms.
Miers did not even show up for the hearings that they were called to
testify before to assert that claim. Furthermore, Madam Speaker, it is
one thing for them to decline to answer certain questions based on a
claim of executive privilege; it is an entirely different matter to
defy even orders to appear.
Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida. I continue to reserve, Madam
Speaker.
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Ms. SLAUGHTER. Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Tennessee (Mr. Cohen), a member of the Judiciary Committee.
Mr. COHEN. I appreciate the time. I do serve on Judiciary Committee,
and I looked at that empty chair that Ms. Miers was supposed to be
sitting in when she was asked to testify before our committee.
Nothing is more contemptuous of an official than not to simply
appear. To appear by counsel, to appear in person, to allege a
privilege is one thing. Not to show up is the uttermost peak of
contempt that a person could have for the Congress and for the
legislative body. She didn't even send a little note, Ms. Miers
regretfully cannot attend your hearing.
This is the highest contempt. We are representatives of the people,
and we are upholding the Constitution and our jobs as being an equal
branch of government, which this legislative body is, and there is no
such thing as an imperial Presidency, and no one is above the law.
Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida. I continue to reserve.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Madam Speaker, I am pleased to yield 1\1/2\ minutes to
the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Wexler) from the Judiciary Committee.
Mr. WEXLER. Madam Speaker, no one is immune from accountability and
the rule of law, not Harriet Miers or Josh Bolten, and especially not
President Bush or Vice President Cheney.
It is high time to defend the Constitution and Congress as a coequal
branch of government. Our liberty and freedoms as Americans are
dependent upon the checks and balances that protect our Nation. Not
since Watergate, not since Watergate has a President so openly
disregarded the will of Congress. Josh Bolten and Harriet Miers have
blatantly ignored congressional subpoenas, thumbing their nose at
Congress and our obligation of legitimate oversight.
The power of the congressional subpoena safeguards our liberty. It
protects against an all-powerful President. The Constitution demands
that we hold these renegade officials in contempt of Congress.
Thank you, Madam Chairman.
Announcement By the Speaker Pro Tempore
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair would remind Members that the
wearing of communicative badges is not in order while under
recognition.
Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Madam Speaker, I continue to
reserve.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman
from Florida (Ms. Wasserman Schultz) of the Judiciary Committee.
Ms. WASSERMAN SCHULTZ. Madam Speaker, I rise today in support of this
resolution. I urge my colleagues on both sides of the aisle as Members
of a coequal branch of government to issue these contempt citations to
members of the Bush administration who clearly feel that they are above
the law.
Last year, when the Judiciary Committee was legitimately
investigating the political purge of U.S. attorneys and conducting
oversight into the politicization of the Justice Department,
administration officials not only failed to turn over key documents
after receiving subpoenas, they didn't even bother to show up to
testify.
Madam Speaker, I am deeply frustrated by this administration's
continued stonewalling and, frankly, the contempt that it has shown for
Congress. As our former Republican colleague Congressman Mickey Edwards
told our committee, the administration's actions have been outrageous
and it continues to erode the separation of powers.
I applaud Chairman Conyers' patience and his many attempts to resolve
this situation short of the manner in which we will today, but I know I
speak for many of my colleagues when I say enough is enough.
Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Madam Speaker, I would ask the
distinguished chairwoman how many speakers she has remaining.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. I believe I have just one. And so I will yield 1\1/2\
minutes to the gentlewoman from Texas (Ms. Jackson-Lee), a member of
the Judiciary Committee.
(Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas asked and was given permission to revise
and extend her remarks.)
Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. Madam Speaker, I thank my colleagues of the
Judiciary Committee, and I thank my colleagues of the Rules Committee.
Madam Speaker, I stand on this floor with a very heavy heart. It is a
heavy heart compounded by the fact that Harriet Miers is my friend. We
practiced law together in the State of Texas. We worked together. And
so it is very difficult to stand here today and to acknowledge what is
an enormous crisis in our Government, and that is the lack of
recognition of the constitutional premise of the three equal branches
of Government. I came yesterday to talk of the embeddedness of the
Constitution not only in many books but also in the hearts of
Americans. When I go home to Texas, people still ask the question: What
are you doing about the U.S. attorney situation? What happened to the
fairness and integrity of the appointment process? The American people
want to know. We are now doing their bidding. They want us to be able
to clear the air.
As a member of the Judiciary Committee, let me tell you, John Conyers
has the patience of Job. Over and over again, and Chairwoman Sanchez,
over and over again, working with Ranking Member Cannon, said that we
wanted to do this in a way that you could come and give information,
that information could be transcripted. We will then try to find out
the truth.
We come here with a broken heart, a humble spirit, but with the
Constitution deeply embedded in our heart, recognizing that there is
nothing to protect if the President says that he is not involved.
Let the Constitution stand. Let us do what we are supposed to do. My
friends, vote for this in a bipartisan way so that the Constitution
remains sacred in our hearts and in this country.
Madam Speaker, I rise today in strong support of H. Res. 982, which
provides that upon adoption of the rule, both H. Res. 979 recommending
that the House of Representatives find former White House Counsel
Harriet Miers and White House Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten in contempt
of Congress for their refusal to comply with subpoenas issued by the
Committee on the Judiciary and H. Res. 980--Authorizing the Committee
on the Judiciary to initiate or intervene in judicial proceedings to
enforce certain subpoenas are adopted. Both of the resolutions were
introduced by my distinguished colleague from Michigan, the Honorable
John Conyers, Jr.
H. Res. 979
This resolution highlights the accountability issues that this body
has continued to have with the Bush administration. This committee made
attempt after attempt to secure critical information voluntarily from
both former White House Counsel Harriet Miers and White House Chief of
Staff Joshua Bolten. At no point did they cooperate and comply with our
requests. Even as this committee directed their appearance by subpoena,
the White House sought to avert our inquiries by citing executive
privilege.
Instead, the White House offered this committee a very limited
inquiry, completely controlled by providing: (1) virtually no access to
internal White House documents, (2) no questioning regarding internal
White House discussions, and (3) no interview transcripts. The White
House is not bluffing with this act of defiance. Rather, it seems the
Bush administration wants to test, and attempt to expand, the limits of
presidential power.
Madam Speaker, it was on July 12, 2007 that Ms. Harriet Miers was
asked to testify before the Subcommittee on Commercial and
Administrative Law investigating the removal of U.S. attorneys by the
Bush administration, and did not attend. That same day, the
subcommittee's Chair, the Honorable Linda Sanchez, undertook the
preliminary steps necessary to declare Miers in contempt. The
subcommittee voted 7-5 that there was no legal justification for Ms.
Miers's failing to appear pursuant to the subpoena.
Notwithstanding this blatant affront to the House Judiciary
Committee, Republican Members allowed party affiliation to trump
institutional responsibility, just as they had when they controlled
Congress. The Minority continues to make excuses for the Bush
administration's defiance, and appears content to let the President
slight the subcommittee by instructing both Ms. Miers and Mr. Bolten to
not testify.
H. Res. 980 and CONGRESSIONAL OVERSIGHT
Congresssional oversight is an implied rather than an enumerated
power. My colleagues across the aisle may make the argument that
nothing explicitly grants this body the authority to conduct inquiries
or investigations of the
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Executive, to have access to records or materials held by the
Executive, or to issue subpoenas for documents or testimony from the
Executive.
However, congressional investigations sustain and vindicate our role
in our constitutional scheme of separated powers. The rich history of
congressional investigations from the failed St. Clair expedition in
1792 through Teapot Dome, Watergate, and Iran-Contra, has established,
in law and practice, the nature and contours of congressional
prerogatives necessary to maintain the integrity of the legislative
role. Numerous Supreme Court precedents recognize a broad and
encompassing power in this body to engage in oversight and
investigation that would reach all sources of information necessary for
carrying out its legislative function. Without a countervailing
constitutional privilege or this body self-imposing a statutory
restriction on our authority, this chamber, along with our colleagues
in the Senate, have plenary power to compel information needed to
discharge our legislative functions from the Executive, private
individuals, and companies.
In McGrain v. Daugherty, 1927, the U.S. Supreme Court deemed the
power of inquiry, with the accompanying process to enforce it, ``an
essential and appropriate auxiliary to the legislative function.''
Senate Rule XXVI, 26, and House Rule XI, 11, presently empower all
standing committees and subcommittees to require the attendance and
testimony of witnesses and the production of documents. This chamber
was given an implied power of oversight by the U.S. Constitution; that
power has supported by our 3rd branch of government, the Supreme Court;
we ourselves have expressed this authority in our Senate and House
Rules, and yet two attorneys under the direction of the White House
continue to tell us we do not have the proper authority.
H.R. 5230, Contempt of the House of Representatives Subpoena Authority
Act of 2008 [110th]
On February 6, I introduced legislation that would amend Title 28,
of the United States Code and grant this chamber the statutory
authority to bring a civil action to enforce and secure a declaratory
judgment to prevent a threatened refusal or failure to comply with any
subpoena or order for the production of documents, the answering of any
deposition or interrogatory, or the securing of testimony issued by the
House or any of its committees or subcommittees.
Once we pass H.R. 5230, we should have no further need to adopt
resolutions for authorization to enforce certain subpoenas; we would
already hold that statutory authority. As it stands now, we must
collectively support both H. Res. 979 and H. Res. 980 under H. Res.
982, the adopted rule. Therefore, I urge my colleagues to join me in
supporting H. Res. 982 an important piece of legislation that allows
for not only accountability but enforcement.
Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida. I would ask the distinguished
chairwoman if she has no other speakers, obviously besides herself.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. That's correct, if the gentleman is prepared to close.
Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Actually I will yield myself 2
minutes at this time.
The actions of the majority today are unprecedented. We have checked
with the House Parliamentarian, and they are absolutely and totally
unprecedented, that privileged resolutions would be taken to the floor
in this fashion, in effect, avoiding even the floor by virtue of the
fact that when the rule is passed, the rule that we are debating,
automatically the two privileged resolutions of contempt will be
considered adopted. That is absolutely unprecedented as well as
uncalled for.
And the nature of the actions of the majority today are most, most
unfortunate. I had the recent opportunity to speak at Florida
International University's law school. Professor Levitt asked me to
speak there about the rule of law. In studying, restudying the issue,
the rule of law, I stressed how the independence of the judiciary is
perhaps the key, or certainly one of the fundamental keys, to the rule
of law. And judicial restraint has permitted the judiciary to remain
independent throughout these two-plus centuries. All of the branches,
Madam Speaker, must exercise restraint.
And the actions of the majority today manifest the opposite, not only
restraint, but I would say unprecedented, uncalled for, an
unprecedented and uncalled for manner of dealing with even an issue of
this importance.
As I stated, the majority is not even allowing debate on the
resolutions of contempt, not even permitting votes on the resolutions
of contempt.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The time of the gentleman has expired.
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