[Congressional Record Volume 153, Number 40 (Thursday, March 8, 2007)]
[House]
[Pages H2309-H2321]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
COMMITTEE FUNDING RESOLUTION
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on Rules, I
call up House Resolution 219 and ask for its immediate consideration.
The Clerk read the resolution, as follows:
H. Res. 219
Resolved, That upon the adoption of this resolution it
shall be in order without intervention of any point of order
to consider in the House the resolution (H. Res. 202)
providing for the expenses of certain committees of the House
of Representatives in the One Hundred Tenth Congress. The
amendment in the nature of a substitute recommended by the
Committee on House Administration now printed in the
resolution, modified by the amendment printed in the report
of the Committee on Rules accompanying this resolution, shall
be considered as adopted. The resolution, as amended, shall
be considered as read. The previous question shall be
considered as ordered on the resolution, as amended, to final
adoption without intervening motion or demand for division of
the question except: (1) one hour of debate equally divided
and controlled by the chairman and ranking minority member of
the Committee on House Administration; and (2) one motion to
recommit which may not contain instructions.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentlewoman from New York (Ms.
Slaughter) is recognized for 1 hour.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, for the purpose of debate only, I yield
the customary 30 minutes to the gentleman from California (Mr. Dreier).
All time yielded during consideration of the rule is for debate only.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
(Ms. SLAUGHTER asked and was given permission to revise and extend
her remarks.)
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, H. Res. 219 provides for consideration of
House Resolution 202, the 110th Congress committee funding resolution.
The rule provides for 1 hour of general debate in the House, equally
divided and controlled by the Chair and ranking minority member of the
Committee on House Administration.
The rule makes in order the committee funding substitute adopted by
the Committee on House Administration. It also provides for a new
Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming, the text of
which is printed in the Rules report accompanying the rule. The rule
waives all points of order against consideration of the resolution and
provides that the resolution, as amended, shall be considered as read.
Mr. Speaker, the rule before us would allow for the consideration of
a bipartisan committee funding resolution. It was reported out of the
House Administration Committee with the support of both Chairwoman
Millender-McDonald and Ranking Member Ehlers.
I want to take a moment to say how pleased I am with the way in which
this bill embodies the spirit of fiscal responsibility that is so often
advocated by this body.
The financial pressures on our government are immense. Recent years
have left us with an unprecedented amount of foreign debt. At the same
time, my fellow Democrats and I are struggling to ensure the safety of
tens and hundreds of thousands of troops abroad, while refusing to
shortchange vital domestic programs here at home.
The resolution reflects that reality. While not all committees have
received the budget increases they hoped for, this funding resolution
provides a bipartisan approach to ensuring that they can fulfill their
duties and obligations without asking Congress to spend money we don't
have. It includes only a 2.4 percent increase in funding from last
year, one of the smallest increases in committee funding in the last 12
years.
As vital as it is to start bringing home some fiscal sanity back to
Washington, there is another reason why the legislation is significant.
As a result of actions taken by the Rules Committee yesterday, it now
contains a provision that represents a profound departure from the
approach that recent Republican Congresses have taken toward one of the
most pivotal issues of our time, global warming.
Global warming is not merely an environmental issue. It is also a
social issue and an economic one. It affects all nations and all
peoples, and its consequences, if left unchecked, could produce truly
dramatic changes to human society the world over.
For decades, evidence has mounted that our planet's temperature is
rising, and that evidence has become so universally recognized that it
is no longer in dispute. President Bush himself even used the phrase
``climate change'' in his State of the Union Address this year, the
first time he has acknowledged it.
But the question raised today by some is a different one: Is global
warming caused by human activity? Or is it merely a natural phenomenon
akin to the last ice age, something that we have to adapt to but we
cannot affect?
Efforts to break the link in the public imagination between human
activity and climate change are still ongoing. Doubt is still being
seeded in the public mind. Sometimes these efforts are blunt. Despite
the President's recent admission, his administration has also been
accused of rewriting sections of impartial Federal scientific reports
that tie human activity to global warming.
Other times, the efforts are more subtle. We hear all the time
Members of this body express their desire to, as they put it, ``get to
the bottom'' of the problem of climate change so that we may come to
understand its true cause.
Mr. Speaker, my colleagues and I on the Democratic side of the aisle
do not share this degree of doubt, nor do we seek to disseminate it. We
have been convinced by numerous internationally recognized scientific
studies, by years of careful analysis and by endless measurements taken
around the world. We have been convinced, as have people the world
over, by the overwhelming weight of available, impartial and scientific
evidence. We have been convinced of a simple idea, that human beings
are altering the planet's environment.
And, as such, we have committed ourselves to being the party of
personal, environmental responsibility. We have pledged to confront
this great challenge before it is beyond our grasp, beyond our ability
to change even if we wanted to.
We have promised a strong path of action, and this bill represents
the first steps along that path taken by this Congress in years, if not
ever.
The resolution will create a fully funded select committee whose sole
purpose will be to focus on global warming. The committee will have 15
members, nine from the majority and six from the minority. It will
serve as a much-needed congressional forum for hearings, investigations
and discussion, and will have the chance to make recommendations
concerning climate change.
Simply put, people all the world over can breathe easier because the
resolution will institutionalize the commitment of the House of
Representatives to confronting global warming.
Mr. Speaker, I also want to take a moment to address one of the
criticisms of this rule that is likely to be voiced by the minority. We
may be told that a hearing and markup process for the select committee
did not take place before the rule was authored.
But a question like this one, the question of whether or not we
should address global warming, has had an ongoing public hearing for a
generation. Numerous arguments on both sides of the question have been
made. And at the end of it all, the overwhelming consensus, both among
the public and among internationally recognized climate scientists, is
that global warming is real; it is human influenced; and it is our
responsibility to control.
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The creation of this select committee is a response to that
international public hearing. Democrats have called for the need to
fight climate change for years, and today we have the chance to turn
that call into action, and we don't intend to waste it.
Mr. Speaker, we can't forget that, in 1997, the Republican-controlled
Senate rejected the Kyoto Protocol, a path-breaking international
effort to control global warming. And we must not forget that, back in
2001, one of the administration's first acts of international
significance was the dramatic rejection of that same set of principles.
It is time for this House to join the vast majority of the world
community that recognizes the threat global warming poses and the role
that our Nation plays in it. It is time for us to be leaders on this
issue and to take responsibility for our actions.
I urge the passage of this rule and of the resolution.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. DREIER. Mr. Speaker, I rise to express my great appreciation to
my very distinguished friend from Rochester, New York, the Chair of the
Committee on Rules, Ms. Slaughter, and I yield myself such time as I
may consume.
Mr. Speaker, I rise this morning in strongest opposition to this rule
and the underlying legislation, House Resolution 202, which provides
for the expenses of certain committees of the House of Representatives
in the 110th Congress. While I consider the funding of the committees
of the House a very, very important priority, I, unfortunately, Mr.
Speaker, oppose this rule since the resolution goes far beyond, far
beyond the very important task in one respect, and, unfortunately, it
falls extraordinarily short in another task.
Mr. Speaker, on March 1, the Committee on House Administration
ordered reported House Resolution 202, a clean committee funding
resolution. If passed by the full House, the resolution will provide
approximately a 2.6 percent across-the-board increase in House
committee budgets between the last session of the 109th Congress and
the first session of the 110th Congress. While most committees can make
do with that very modest increase, we have one committee that
absolutely cannot. It is called the Committee on Standards of Official
Conduct.
Mr. Speaker, on the opening day of the 110th Congress, Ms. Slaughter
and I both stood here as we debated and then ended up supporting a very
important part of the opening day rules package. On that day, we asked
the Ethics Committee to take on substantial new responsibilities.
They are now responsible, Mr. Speaker, the Ethics Committee, based on
what the passage of the opening days rules package imposed on them,
they are now required to pre-approve all trips. They are required to
issue guidance on rules that they were not involved in drafting at all.
As I said, we imposed that on them. They are required to provide
training for every employee of the House on the new ethics rules that
we have just put into place and forced them to implement. And they are
still in a position where they have to now provide timely advice to
every single Member who makes a request for the application of this
rule.
On top of that, Mr. Speaker, they have the responsibility of
investigating allegations of wrongdoing whenever they do occur.
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Now already, I understand, the Committee on Ethics, the Committee on
Standards of Official Conduct, is falling behind. Appropriation season
is well under way, and we have absolutely no guidance whatsoever about
the new ethics standards for earmarks. We have new travel and gift
rules, but those regulations created as many questions as they
answered; and the Ethics Committee is already months behind in its
correspondence with Members.
We are going to hear from a number of our colleagues who have been
dealing with this very difficult situation. The chairman and the
ranking member, the chairman and the ranking member of the Committee on
Ethics appeared before the Committee on House Administration. In fact,
Ms. Slaughter and I were both there because our testimony followed
them. Mr. Hastings and Mrs. Tubbs Jones, Republican and Democrat in a
bipartisan way, they came to plead their case to provide an increase
beyond that 2.6 percent so they can deal with this massive new mandate
imposed upon them. It was a large request, but the members of the
Ethics Committee need it because they want to do their job and they
need the resources to do it.
What the House Administration Committee did, and we were there during
that testimony, they expressed great sympathy with their plight. And at
the end, they felt they could do a little more. That decision leaves
every single Member of this House in jeopardy, and it is one that we
cannot let stand.
That is why, as I said, Mr. Hastings, the former chairman of the
Ethics Committee and Mrs. Tubbs Jones, the new chairman of the Ethics
Committee, took the very unusual step of just yesterday appealing to us
up in the Rules Committee to correct this problem.
Now my Rules Committee colleague, Mr. Hastings, has the dual
responsibility of serving not only as the distinguished ranking member
of the Ethics Committee, but also he serves on the Rules Committee, and
he sat before us and asked that we simply allow the House to debate
this issue. He didn't argue that we have to do it. I happen to believe
we do have to do it, but he simply was making the request that the
Rules Committee make in order a chance for this House to discuss this
very important ethics issue, one with which we are all very familiar.
He was joined in this request by the distinguished Chair of the
committee. She wasn't there, but I know she has supported his request
for us to have an opportunity to debate this issue, and I know she
strongly supports the effort, as she did in her testimony before the
Administration Committee asking for the additional resources so the
Ethics Committee, Mr. Speaker, can in fact do their job.
This is particularly important given the other aspect of this rule.
This rule self-executes an amendment establishing the new Select
Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming, about which the
distinguished Chair of the Rules Committee was just speaking.
Without impugning the necessity or desire to establish that select
committee, my colleagues got to hear me explain at the Rules Committee
yesterday exactly why this process was so outrageous and why this is
the wrong way to go about establishing a select committee.
Mr. Speaker, never mind that the minority was never given the
language creating this select committee until we literally walked into
the room yesterday at 2 p.m., and never mind the fact the Democratic
majority is denying us a motion to recommit with instructions which
would have been made in order if the privileged resolution came to the
floor, never mind that the Rules Committee never held a hearing or
produced an original jurisdiction committee report on the establishment
of this select committee, something I believe is totally unprecedented.
With all of the committees established in the history of this
institution, I am convinced that never before has this process been
used, and never mind that the House is completely side-stepping regular
order by self-executing this amendment.
Mr. Speaker, never mind all of those horrible procedural outrages
that have been imposed. I am not going to talk about those. The most
troubling part of this whole episode is that this self-executing
amendment grants the new select committee some $3.7 million over the
course of this Congress. So if we can find an additional $3.7 million
to fund this new select committee that will have no legislative power
whatsoever, I don't understand why we can't fund a mere $1 million to
fully fund the bipartisan request that was made before the Rules
Committee to provide the necessary funding for our very hardworking
colleagues, Mr. Hastings, Mrs. Tubbs Jones and their colleagues on the
Ethics Committee.
Mr. Speaker, at the end of this debate on this rule, I will be asking
Members to oppose the previous question so I may amend the rule to make
in order the bipartisan Tubbs Jones-Hastings amendment so that the 430
Members that supported the new ethics rules may live up to the
commitment that they made right here on opening day.
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Mr. Speaker, if you think we needed new ethics standards, if you
believe that the Ethics Committee should do its job, then you have a
moral obligation to defeat the previous question and allow the House to
work its will by at least considering the chance to make sure that Mrs.
Tubbs Jones, the distinguished Chair of the Ethics Committee, and Mr.
Hastings, the ranking member, have the resources they need to do what
we, 430 Members, told them they had to do.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, let me take 30 seconds to say to my good
friend, Mr. Dreier, that while he has made much of the fact that a
bipartisan group went before the committee to beg for money, that it
was turned down by a bipartisan pair, the Chair and the ranking member
of that committee, perhaps he should take up his complaint with Mr.
Ehlers who was the Republican ranking member on that committee.
Now I am pleased to yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Vermont
(Mr. Welch).
Mr. WELCH of Vermont. Mr. Speaker, the issue here is global warming.
There is a separate issue of Ethics Committee funding. It should be
clear to all of us that we don't have to combine the two to let both
defeat what is in the interest of this country to achieve. The crisis
of global warming is real. It is urgent and it requires our immediate
action. By embracing the challenge of global warming, we can open the
door to innovative local approaches as we work towards solutions that
are going to create jobs, improve the environment, and improve and
strengthen our national security.
This is a very critical issue in my own State, as it is in every
State. Even in a small State such as Vermont, we realize that we can
and we must make a contribution towards a more sustainable local
economy, a more environmentally friendly future. Meaningful Federal
policy must be part of that.
I commend this House of Representatives' bipartisan action that in
our first days we reversed those tax breaks that went to big oil
companies and instead funded renewable energy. The leadership in this
Congress has also set a priority on making a green capital initiative.
We are going to work, I hope together with my friend from California,
on greening this capital and putting our example forward as part of
what can be achieved.
Mr. DREIER. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. WELCH of Vermont. I yield to the gentleman from California.
Mr. DREIER. I would just like to say that I do look forward, Mr.
Speaker, to working with my friend from Vermont on this very, very
important issue. And we are at this moment, in fact, going through his
legislative initiative. I hope to work closely with him on it.
I thank the gentleman.
Mr. WELCH of Vermont. I thank my friend from California. What that is
about, we can take concrete steps. Last month my office introduced a
bill that would allow us to be a carbon-neutral office by working with
a couple of local initiatives in Vermont to offset the 54 tons of
carbon pollution that turning on the lights in my office here in
Washington and my office at home in Vermont and my travel back and
forth around the State generates.
What we can accomplish by working together requires us to take
concrete steps together. This committee, this special select committee,
is something in my view that deserves bipartisan support because we
have to focus the attention of this Congress on the big issue of global
warming, but also on the concrete and specific steps that we can take
that will reduce the damage that we do to the environment by our
activities by creating jobs that will increase wealth and economic
security for our country, and absolutely take steps towards reducing
the stranglehold that foreign oil has on limiting our foreign policy
options.
This is overdue and something that can be accomplished, and I commend
the Speaker for her initiative in putting together this special panel
that is going to help this Congress and this country make the overdue
steps that are required.
Mr. DREIER. Mr. Speaker, I am very happy to yield 3 minutes to my
very good friend, the former chairman of the Committee on Standards,
the gentleman from Pasco, Washington (Mr. Hastings).
Mr. HASTINGS of Washington. Mr. Speaker, I thank my very good friend
from San Dimas for yielding me this time.
Mr. Speaker, I rise today in opposition to House Resolution 219. I am
disappointed that a bipartisan amendment that I offered, along with the
chairman of the Ethics Committee, Chairwoman Tubbs Jones of Ohio, to
the Rules Committee was not made in order under this closed rule.
The amendment that we offered would simply set the funding levels for
the Ethics Committee at the level that was requested by Chairwoman
Tubbs Jones and by me, the amount that we jointly determined was
necessary to effectively carry out the Ethics Committee's
responsibilities.
Regrettably, the budget we requested was not provided by the House
Administration Committee. Yesterday, the Rules Committee refused to
allow the House to vote on whether the Ethics Committee will have the
resources it needs to fully fund its responsibilities.
Mr. Speaker, the Ethics Committee is responsible for two primary
tasks: one, educating, informing and advising members and staff about
their ethical responsibilities pursuant to the House rules; and, two,
enforcing those rules firmly and fairly without regard to friendship,
favor, or political party.
Two years ago in a bipartisan fashion, I requested a substantial
increase in funding to better fulfill these responsibilities, and I was
pleased that 2 years ago the House Administration Committee supported
and approved the full funding that was requested. However, as the
Speaker and Members know, the 110th Congress passed significant changes
to the House rules that we are living under in this Congress. Those
rules require, Mr. Speaker, I want to repeat, require that our
committee take on additional responsibilities that we haven't had in
the past in areas of gift, private travel, mandatory ethics training,
and public disclosure.
Our budget request this year, $6.11 million, and it is the lowest of
any standing committee in the House, would provide the additional staff
to improve the quality of advice, authorize detailees from the
Government Accountability Office to help process public disclosure
office, increase ethics training for Members and staff throughout the
country, and enhance the communication of the new ethics rules.
Mr. Speaker, we all recognize the need to live under a tight budget.
Yet the budget requested by the Ethics Committee for this Congress is
not arbitrary. It is the amount of funds needed to do the work that we
are asked to do by a vote of the House. Limiting the Ethics Committee
budget limits the Ethics Committee's ability to do its job. I do regret
that this matter has reached the House floor, and I know that the
chairwoman and I seek simply to have the resources we need to serve
Members of this House and to uphold the integrity of this institution.
I am committed to working hand in hand with the chairwoman, and I
know that she is sincerely dedicated to carrying out the committee's
responsibilities. For these reasons, Mr. Speaker, I must ask my
colleagues to join me in voting against the rule and against the
previous question so that the amendment providing the Ethics Committee
the necessary funding can be considered by the full House.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume
to enter into the Record a very important piece of information which
has just come my way.
Printed in the New York Times this morning: ``Internal memorandums
circulated in the Alaskan division of the Federal Fish and Wildlife
Service appear to require government biologists or other employees
traveling in countries around the Arctic not to discuss climate change,
polar bears or sea ice if they are not designated to do so.
``In December, the Bush administration, facing a deadline under a
suit by environmental groups, proposed listing polar bears throughout
their range as threatened under the Endangered Species Act because the
warming climate is causing a summertime retreat of sea ice that the
bears use for seal hunting.
``It remains unclear whether such a listing will be issued. Over the
past
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week, biologists and wildlife officials received a cover note and two
sample memorandums to be used as a guide in preparing travel requests.
Under the heading `Foreign Travel--New Requirement--Please Review and
Comply, Importance: High,' the cover note said.''
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`` `Please be advised that all foreign travel requests and any future
travel requests involving or potentially involving climate change, sea
ice and/or polar bears will also require a memorandum from the regional
director to the director indicating who'll be the official spokesman on
the trip and the one responding to questions on these issues,
particularly polar bears.'
``The sample memorandums, described as to be used in written travel
requests, indicate that the employees seeking permission to travel
`understands the administration's position on climate change, polar
bears, and sea ice will not be speaking on or responding to these
issues.'
``Electronic copies of the memorandums and cover note were forwarded
to The New York Times by Deborah Williams, an environmental campaigner
in Alaska and a former Interior Department official in the Clinton
administration.
`` `This sure sounds like a Soviet-style directive to me,' Ms.
Williams said.
``Limits on government scientists' freedom to speak freely about
climate change became a heated issue last year after news report showed
that political appointees at NASA had canceled journalists' interview
requests with climate scientists and discouraged news releases on
global warming.''
Mr. Speaker, if there was ever a time for this Congress to take up
global warming, and if there was ever a question that it was not the
position of this administration to ignore it, I hope this puts it to
rest.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. DREIER. Mr. Speaker, let me say, we are all concerned about
global warming. At this time, I would like to yield 2 minutes to my
very distinguished friend from Miami (Mr. Lincoln Diaz-Balart).
Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Mr. Speaker, I thank my friend
from California.
Mr. Speaker, I hope that our colleagues that may be watching this
debate realize what is being debated. That is, that at the beginning of
this Congress, as we all know because we voted on it, the Congress,
pursuant to the request of the new majority and the Rules of the House,
significantly increased the responsibilities of the Ethics Committee.
And yesterday, the distinguished chairman of the Ethics Committee and
the distinguished ranking member sought to have an amendment made in
order in this legislation before us today, which is funding of the
committees, to sufficiently fund the Ethics Committee, especially now
that it has new significant additional responsibilities. That amendment
was not made in order.
So what we are saying is, let's defeat the previous question so that
the Ethics Committee, with all of its additional new responsibilities,
can be funded because you can't have the newspaper article saying, oh,
we're increasing all these requirements, ethics requirements, that are
going to be supervised and executed by the Ethics Committee and then
not fund the Ethics Committee sufficiently.
That is what our distinguished friends in the majority are doing.
They get the headlines, but then they don't want to fund the Ethics
Committee sufficiently so it can do its job correctly.
So what we are saying is, defeat the previous question and let's not
support this rule because we need to fund the Ethics Committee
sufficiently so it can do its job.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. DREIER. Mr. Speaker, I am very pleased to yield 2 minutes to my
very good friend from Dallas (Mr. Sessions), a hardworking member of
the Rules Committee.
Mr. SESSIONS. Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the gentleman from California
giving me time.
I rise in opposition to this closed rule and to the unprecedented
creation of a new panel with no legislative jurisdiction and no
authority to take legislative action. Mr. Speaker, it is like being
air-dropped into this usually noncontroversial resolution without any
committee oversight or consideration being given.
The cost to the taxpayers for this lopsided new committee to study
the serious issue of climate change but that is not given the power by
the Democrat leadership of actually doing anything; yet it costs $4
million.
This resolution also represents an increase of 14.3 percent over last
year's Congress, raising the funding levels for these committees and
staff salaries from just over $250 million to just over $291 million,
one Congress to the next.
But with all of this new spending, the Democrat majority cannot find
a way to adequately fund one of the most vocally stated priorities, at
least on the campaign trail, the Ethics Committee.
This lack of funding is hindering the committee's struggle to
untangle the confusingly drafted new ethics package passed by the new
Democrat majority and to provide the training mandated by House Rules.
So, today, the American people can see where the Democrats' true
priorities lie, in crafting and creating an unfunded mandate and
leaving a campaign promise unfilled, while spending millions of
taxpayer dollars on a new panel that has no authority to do anything.
Mr. Speaker, I do encourage all my colleagues to hear the straight
story, and I also encourage them to vote against this rule and to
defeat it.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. DREIER. Mr. Speaker, may I inquire of the distinguished Chair of
the Committee on Rules how many speakers she has remaining.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. I have none. I am ready to close.
Mr. DREIER. Would the gentlewoman like to yield me some of the time
because we have got loads of people here who want to talk?
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Go ahead and use it any way you like.
Mr. DREIER. Well, I just wondered if you wanted to give us some of
your time.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. I am not giving you my time.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentlewoman reserves the balance of her
time.
Mr. DREIER. Mr. Speaker, in light of that, I am very happy to yield 2
minutes to the gentleman from Kiron, Iowa (Mr. King) who came before
the Rules Committee offering a very thoughtful amendment last night,
our good friend.
Mr. KING of Iowa. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding,
and I am compelled to come to the floor and stand up and speak in
opposition to this rule.
The rules package that came before the floor of the House, an
unamendable rules package, was amended before it came to the 109th, to
the 110th Congress, eliminating the requirement that the Rules
Committee and other committee votes be published when there is a
recorded vote.
Yesterday, before the Rules Committee, I brought an amendment that
would require the Rules Committee to print recorded votes if they were
to receive any of the funding that is authorized. I got about a third
of the way through my presentation when I was interrupted by the chair,
and the point was made that they have printed their votes to this date.
The argument was made that since they have complied with my amendment,
then there is no reason for my amendment, in fact, no latitude for me
to continue my debate with regard to that and my presentation.
So I rise in opposition to this rule because, first of all, we need
to have sunlight on everything we do, and a requirement to provide to
the public access to recorded votes is something that ought to be in
the rule. It ought not to be an option. If it is the practice of the
Rules Committee, then this amendment codifies the practice of the Rules
Committee, and it should not receive objection, especially the
vociferous interruption objection.
I also object to the way I was treated before the Rules Committee. I
will keep coming back regardless. I will not be intimidated, and I
intend to raise the sunlight on everything we do in this Congress. I
want to see all of our
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work become available on the Internet, in a searchable, sortable,
downloadable format. I want all the sunlight possible, so the bloggers
can see, and I would love to see television cameras up before the Rules
Committee as well, Mr. Speaker. I think that will help the decorum of
the Rules Committee.
But I intend to come back. Like the Governor from California, I will
be back.
Mr. DREIER. Mr. Speaker, I appreciate my friend from Iowa quoting
Governor Schwarzenneger. He can do it any time.
Mr. Speaker, I am happy to yield 3 minutes to the distinguished
former Governor of the State of Delaware, the gentleman from Wilmington
(Mr. Castle), who is back.
Mr. CASTLE. Mr. Speaker, I thank the distinguished gentleman from
California for yielding to me.
I rise today in opposition to the previous question for the committee
funding resolution. The resolution at hand underfunds our Committee on
Standards of Official Conduct, not compared to previous years but in
light of problems that exist and the education that is needed.
At a time crucial to restoring America's faith in our ability to
govern ourselves, the Rules Committee dismissed an amendment offered by
Chairwoman Stephanie Tubbs Jones and Ranking Member Doc Hastings which
would have allowed us to equip the Ethics Committee with the resources
necessary for enacting meaningful reform.
Opposing this previous question will enable the House to consider the
amendment to fully fund the Ethics Committee, which I believe will
actually save us money in the long run, and I encourage my colleagues
to allow us to debate and support this important amendment.
Mr. Speaker, some will say that the increase to the Ethics Committee
is already substantial. To those Members, I would like to remind them
that when making their request, the chairwoman and ranking member took
into consideration the past problems and the recent changes to our
rules, and determined the staffing and resources necessary to provide
training, oversight and interpretation of those rules to this body.
We have rightfully tightened our travel rules, requiring preapproval;
finally banned travel on corporate jets; and we have enacted specific
restrictions on accepting food and drinks at briefings, and T-shirts or
books from organizations or constituents. Some are allowed, and some
are not.
Mr. Speaker, more than a memo is needed to convey these guidelines.
Members and staff should already be receiving training on the Rules
governing the 110th Congress. Instead, we are beginning the month of
March, and it is unclear even when the training could be available.
On top of the new rules already adopted, there is more to be done, in
my opinion. We need to have a permanent and professional committee
staff, and we need to expand ethics training to lobbyists.
How can we expect the committee to exercise duties of even the most
minimum oversight and investigations with a budget that does not meet
the stated needs of the chairwoman and the ranking member of that
committee?
As elected representatives, we come to Congress with the trust of
those we represent. The poor decisions of a few have dishonored this
great body and have challenged the faith Americans deserve to have in
each of us. Enforcing high standards of ethics and civility may seem to
be the responsibility of the majority party, but they are, in fact,
essential within every one of us elected to hold the public trust.
Mr. Speaker, I encourage my colleagues to oppose this previous
question to allow consideration of this amendment.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I continue to reserve my time.
Mr. DREIER. Mr. Speaker, I am happy to yield 3\1/2\ minutes to a
thoughtful former member of the Committee on Rules, the gentleman from
Moore, Oklahoma, (Mr. Cole).
Mr. COLE of Oklahoma. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for
yielding.
Mr. Speaker, I rise today to speak against the rule and the
underlying bill as it is currently written. Frankly, my concerns are
not about the global warming issue. It is about the ethics issue.
As a former member of the Committee on Standards of Official Conduct,
I understand and appreciate the tremendously difficult job that we ask
the staff and the members of that committee to face on a daily basis.
It is common knowledge in this body that no one wants to serve on the
Ethics Committee. It is a responsibility that no one seeks but,
frankly, must be handled.
I think, frankly, everyone understands that there have been ethical
lapses by some of our colleagues in the last few years. That committee
has dealt with those lapses as best it could, handling a workload that
is unpredictable, and it is by its very nature highly charged and
occasionally and unfortunately partisan.
To do that job, the last Congress increased the funding for the
committee by approximately 40 percent. Even that was probably not
enough to handle the job which had been given to us by the House, but
it is certainly not enough to deal with the new responsibilities that
the majority has chosen to extend to that committee.
The majority party ran on a platform of ethics and made it a major
issue in the last campaign, and frankly, it passed with strong,
bipartisan support an ethics package as the very first act that calls,
again, on Members to do more in the committee to supervise and do more.
Now the majority party is actually refusing to do what they promised;
that is, they are refusing to fund the 41 percent increase in the
underlying legislation that their own chairman of the Ethics Committee
and the ranking member have jointly requested.
We have been able to find millions of dollars to fund the global
warming effort, a select committee, a committee, frankly, that has no
duties, no responsibilities, no legislative priorities, but it is an
important committee, and I recognize the importance of looking at that
extremely important issue. At the same time, we will not fund a
committee that already has the smallest budget of any standing
committee, whose responsibilities we have magnified, compounded and
increased greatly.
My colleagues on the other side of the aisle again made ethics a
major issue in the last campaign, and frankly, they have threatened to
make it a major issue in the next campaign. Fair enough. I think
everybody should be scrutinized that is privileged to serve in this
body, but if you are going to do that, you have to give the committee
the financial resources to do the job that it is charged to do, and
frankly, you have to provide the Members of this body with the services
that they need to avoid inadvertently breaking the rules and becoming
the target for political cheap shots, whether they are launched by one
side or the other.
It is simply irresponsible to the Members of this body. I am not
surprised that our friends on the other side of the aisle do not want
to yield us some more time to talk about this simply because they are
in an indefensible position.
Do the right thing: Vote against this hollow rule and give the
Committee on Standards of Official Conduct the funding it needs to get
its job done.
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Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 6 minutes to the
gentlewoman who chairs the Ethics Committee, the gentlewoman from Ohio
(Mrs. Jones).
Mrs. JONES of Ohio. Madam Chairwoman, thank you for the time.
Mr. Speaker, to my colleagues on the other side of the aisle, I was
actually in a Ways and Means hearing on waste, fraud and abuse in
Medicare, and all of a sudden, someone called and said, they're using
your name, they're using your name, they're using your name. So I
turned on the television to see what was going on, and I was forced to
come to the floor.
First of all, let me say that I feel like I am blessed to have the
opportunity to chair the Ethics Committee of the U.S. Congress. I come
from Cleveland, Ohio. My father carried bags for 40 years for United
Airlines, and my mother was a factory worker. To have the opportunity
to sit in this seat, the seat that my predecessor, the honorable
Congressman Louis Stokes, held for so
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many years is indeed an honor and an opportunity.
I am so pleased to have an opportunity to work with the committee of
men and women who want to do the job of chairing and overseeing the
Ethics Committee. I want you to know that Doc Hastings and I have
worked together for the past 5 or 6 years on ethics, and we will
continue to work diligently on behalf of the Members of Congress, the
people of the United States, because it is through our responsibilities
that we will be able to help people to understand how great the Members
of the U.S. Congress are and how great we are at doing our job and
taking our responsibilities seriously.
I come to the floor reluctantly. I did, in fact, sponsor an amendment
with Doc Hastings and both of us, in fact, believe that the Ethics
Committee could use additional dollars; but I am not going to be used.
I am not going to allow the process of a bill with regard to other
issues to hold up the dollars that are available to other committees.
We understand we operate within a framework of having only so much
money.
It was not the Rules Committee that had the responsibilities of
granting additional dollars. It was the previous committee that
previously said on a bipartisan basis, we are not going to give you any
more money. So here comes the Rules Committee. We lost in the Rules
Committee. I am a big girl, I lost that money, but it doesn't mean I am
not going to do my job.
Let me finish. Then you can jump up, and, Mr. Dreier, I will, in
fact, yield you some of my time. I guarantee you that there may be
another mechanism or another vehicle for us to be able to provide the
support to the Ethics Committee.
Understand, we are going to do our job. We are going to do our job,
and I am not going to be used or my amendment to allow anyone to say we
can't do our job. Guaranteed, I wouldn't have taken the job. Nancy
Pelosi said I was tough and smart. I am both of those. Doc Hastings is
tough, and he is smart. We will do our job.
I thank you for elevating the Ethics Committee to a level where
people think that we ought to have another opportunity.
I am so happy to see the majority leader on the floor. We are both
from Ohio. In fact, I am going to yield you some of my time. Come on,
baby, let's talk. Let's interact.
Mr. BOEHNER. Would the gentlelady yield?
Mrs. JONES of Ohio. Absolutely.
Mr. BOEHNER. I appreciate the gentlelady yielding.
Mr. Speaker, my colleague, the gentlelady from Ohio, knows I have
deep respect for her and the other members of the Ethics Committee and
Mr. Hastings. They do a good job on behalf of our Members, and it is
thankful from the Members, but it is a very unwelcome job that you
have; and we do appreciate your work.
With what the House did in early January, in terms of adopting a new
ethics package, it is clear that the responsibility of the Ethics
Committee has expanded significantly. Members supported that, and I
think it is long overdue.
Now, we all know, and I am not going to talk about the amendment that
was offered last night, but there is insufficient money in the budget
for the Ethics Committee to do what we have charged them with doing.
Now, we do this with Federal agencies all the time and can look the
other way. If we want Members to abide by the rules that we have
adopted, we have to have an Ethics Committee that can provide services
to those Members so they understand the rules, they understand the
limits, what they can and can't do. The concern that we have is that
because there is insufficient money for the Ethics Committee in this
resolution that Members are going to be charged with living under new
rules and not having the service component necessary from the Ethics
Committee to carry out our job.
Mrs. JONES of Ohio. Mr. Boehner, thank you very much, all of you. But
let's find a forum to address this issue other than in this process. I
guarantee you that our leadership can sit down and work this out. I'm
not going to be used. I'm telling you, the Ethics Committee has to
stand on its own. We are not going to be in this process. Let's find a
way. There is a vehicle by which we can work on giving the Ethics
Committee the money that they need without being caught up in this
process.
Mr. DREIER. Mr. Speaker, will the gentlewoman yield?
Mrs. JONES of Ohio. Absolutely.
Mr. DREIER. I thank my friend for yielding.
First, let me say I have utmost respect for both Ohioans, Mr. Boehner
and Mrs. Jones, as well as the ranking member of the Ethics Committee,
Mr. Hastings.
Mr. Speaker, on the opening day, we did, in fact, establish
unprecedented ethics rules. Since that time, we have continued to hear
complaints from Members about the lack of ability for the Committee on
Standards to provide Members with information that is needed.
Mrs. JONES of Ohio. Mr. Dreier, I take my time back. You can continue
to make those comments if you want to, but I guarantee you that the
Members who needed to get information by a certain date got their
information. You are not going to use my committee on the floor to be a
battling horse for anybody. I tell you, I will live within the dollars
I get. I want more. Get them for me.
Mr. DREIER. Mr. Speaker, we are trying to get the resources
necessary.
With that, I am happy to yield 4 minutes to my very good friend, my
California colleague who serves on the House Administration Committee,
Mr. Lungren.
Mr. DANIEL E. LUNGREN of California. I thank the gentleman for
yielding.
Mr. Speaker, at the time that the Ethics Committee came before our
committee for their funding, I inquired as to what they needed, because
I was concerned about the insufficiency of funds for that committee per
the directions we had received from the leadership as to what we could
actually give them.
So during that presentation before our committee, the distinguished
chairwoman of the committee said these words regarding her request:
``These positions,'' that is the positions that will be funded by their
additional money request, ``are needed to satisfy the mandates of the
House Ethics Committee.'' She continued: ``Importantly, the figures
presented today represent the collaborative efforts of my ranking
member, Representative Doc Hastings, and I to advance,'' again, quoting
her, ``the past needs of the committee and the current mandates of the
House ethics rules.''
That's the nub of this whole debate. That is why we ask that this
rule be voted down and that we will be allowed to have an amendment
dealing specifically with funding for the Ethics Committee.
We have to understand, ``additional mandates,'' those are the words
from the chairperson of the committee, current mandates of the House
ethics rules. I am just asking Members on both sides of the aisle to
think about this. We have said that we are going to be the most ethical
Congress in history. We have adopted new rules that mandate new
concerns with specificity as to conduct by Members and their staff.
One of the enforcing mechanisms is guidance to be given to us by that
very Ethics Committee. Therefore, we have imposed additional
obligations, additional work on that committee; and yet we are not
giving them the additional resources.
Now, if I were a corporation having received the new mandate under
Sarbanes-Oxley, and the first thing I told my employees and my
shareholders is, I am not going to beef up our lawyers, I am not going
to beef up our accountants to give us advice as to what we should do
under the law, the shareholders would probably throw me out of my
position because I would not be doing the job that is necessary.
We on this floor in these committees have two shareholders. We have
our peers, that is the other Members to whom we owe a responsibilities
to give them that which they need to ensure that they follow those
rules, and we have an obligation to our ultimate shareholders, the
taxpayers of America, our constituents, who expect us to put our money
where our mouth is to expect us to live up to our promises. May I just
say, I thank the committee for the work they did.
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I had to make a specific request of the committee about a particular
trip I was going on to visit a friend that I have known for 40-some
years, before our last break, and I received oral assurance from the
committee that it was appropriate. But, technically, I was supposed to
receive written assurance, and I received that a week after the visit.
Now, it turned out my wife slipped on the ice and we were not able to
go on the visit, so I have to write a letter to the committee to make
it clear I didn't do that, and that is why it will not be in my report
at the end of the year. But the fact of the matter is, those technical
violations that could occur because we don't give them enough in the
way of personnel can come back to haunt us as individual Members, but,
more importantly, to undercut, undercut the confidence the American
people have in this place that we are ethical.
All I am saying is, we can save money in a number of different
places; but we ought not to skimp on this particular issue, this
particular committee.
Therefore, I would ask Members to vote down this rule so we can have
this simple amendment brought forward.
Mr. DREIER. Mr. Speaker, may I inquire of the distinguished Chair of
the Committee on Rules how many speakers she has remaining.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, how much time do we have remaining?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from California has 2 minutes
remaining, and the gentlewoman from New York has 11 minutes remaining.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. DREIER. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, obviously there has been a great deal of thought and
talk, and it has been understandable about the issue of ethics and
lobbying reform. Last year, Speaker Hastert and I initiated a package
that we passed through the House but, unfortunately, we were not able
to come to an agreement in the Senate. On the opening day, 430 Members
voted to put into place unprecedented ethics reform, unprecedented
ethics reform.
Why? Because the American people know we should be held to the
highest possible standards. Now, there is an expression that I think is
a very important one, and that is ``put your money where your mouth
is.'' Now the very distinguished Chair of the committee on ethics, my
good friend Mrs. Jones, talked about the fact that she wants to address
this as concerns come forward.
Mr. Speaker, this is the committee funding measure that we are
bringing to the floor. We are doing some other things to it, self-
executing establishment of a committee, but we are providing for that
committee that will have no legislative authority whatsoever, $3.7
million. All we are asking, Mr. Speaker, is that we have a chance, a
chance to debate the issue of funding for the Ethics Committee here on
the floor.
That is why I am going to urge my colleagues to vote ``no'' on the
previous question. Why? Because while this new committee that will have
no legislative authority whatsoever will receive $3.7 million, we are
simply asking for what is being denied, and that is a chance for $1
million to be provided so that our Members will not be facing the
weekend situation that Mr. Lungren just described where he sent a
letter to the Ethics Committee, asked for a response about going on a
trip, and he didn't receive approval until a week after the trip was to
take place.
Mrs. Jones and Mr. Hastings came before the House Administration
Committee and made this request for additional funding; and Mr.
Hastings, representing Mrs. Jones before the Rules Committee, asked
that this amendment be made in order.
Mr. Speaker, any Member who votes for the previous question is
denying this institution the opportunity to consider implementing the
resources that are necessary to hold us to the highest possible ethical
standards. Vote ``no'' on the previous question.
Amendment to H. Res. 219 Offered by Rep. Dreier of California
At the end of the resolution, add the following:
Sec. 2. Notwithstanding any other provision of this
resolution, after conclusion of the time for debate on the
resolution it shall be in order without intervention of any
point of order to consider the amendment in section 3, if
offered by Mr. Hastings of Washington or his designee. The
amendment shall be considered as read, shall be separately
debatable for one hour equally divided and controlled by the
proponent and an opponent, and shall not be subject to
amendment or demand for division of the question.
Sec. 3. The amendment referred to in section 2 is as
follows:
In section l(b), strike ``Committee on Standards of
Official Conduct, $4,994,181;'' and insert ``Committee on
Standards of Official Conduct, $6,119,301;''.
In section 2(b), strike ``Committee on Standards of
Official Conduct, $2,460,915;'' and insert ``Committee on
Standards of Official Conduct, $2,996,561;''.
In section 3(b), strike ``Committee on Standards of
Official Conduct, $2,533,266;'' and insert ``Committee on
Standards of Official Conduct, $3,122,740;''.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I just have one statement to say, that it
is not the job of the Rules Committee to change the amounts of money
given to various committees by House administration. Frankly, I am
sorry Mr. Lungren missed his trip, and I do know the Ethics Committee
is going to be very busy. We have been reading about it.
{time} 1130
I want to say the same thing Mrs. Tubbs Jones said: our leadership is
not going to let it go without the money that it requires.
I urge a ``yes'' vote on the rule and on the previous question.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time, and I move the
previous question on the resolution.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on ordering the previous
question.
The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that
the ayes appeared to have it.
Mr. DREIER. Mr. Speaker, I object to the vote on the ground that a
quorum is not present and make the point of order that a quorum is not
present.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Evidently a quorum is not present.
The Sergeant at Arms will notify absent Members.
Pursuant to clause 9 of rule XX, the Chair will reduce to 5 minutes
the minimum time for any electronic vote on the question of adoption of
the resolution.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 228,
nays 195, not voting 10, as follows:
[Roll No. 127]
YEAS--228
Abercrombie
Ackerman
Allen
Altmire
Andrews
Arcuri
Baca
Baird
Baldwin
Bean
Becerra
Berkley
Berman
Berry
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (NY)
Blumenauer
Boren
Boswell
Boucher
Boyd (FL)
Boyda (KS)
Brady (PA)
Braley (IA)
Brown, Corrine
Butterfield
Capps
Capuano
Cardoza
Carnahan
Carney
Carson
Castor
Chandler
Clarke
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Cohen
Conyers
Cooper
Costa
Costello
Courtney
Cramer
Crowley
Cuellar
Cummings
Davis (AL)
Davis (CA)
Davis (IL)
Davis, Lincoln
DeFazio
DeGette
Delahunt
DeLauro
Dicks
Dingell
Doggett
Donnelly
Doyle
Edwards
Ellison
Ellsworth
Emanuel
Engel
Eshoo
Etheridge
Farr
Fattah
Filner
Frank (MA)
Giffords
Gillibrand
Gonzalez
Gordon
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Gutierrez
Hall (NY)
Hare
Harman
Hastings (FL)
Herseth
Higgins
Hill
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Hirono
Hodes
Holden
Holt
Honda
Hooley
Hoyer
Inslee
Israel
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Jefferson
Johnson (GA)
Johnson, E. B.
Jones (OH)
Kagen
Kaptur
Kennedy
Kildee
Kilpatrick
Kind
Klein (FL)
Kucinich
Lampson
Langevin
Lantos
Larsen (WA)
Lee
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lipinski
Loebsack
Lofgren, Zoe
Lowey
Lynch
Mahoney (FL)
Maloney (NY)
Markey
Marshall
Matheson
Matsui
McCarthy (NY)
McGovern
McIntyre
McNerney
McNulty
Meehan
Meek (FL)
Meeks (NY)
Melancon
Michaud
Millender-McDonald
Miller (NC)
Miller, George
Mitchell
Mollohan
Moore (KS)
Moore (WI)
Moran (VA)
Murphy (CT)
Murphy, Patrick
Murtha
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal (MA)
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Ortiz
Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor
Payne
Perlmutter
Peterson (MN)
Pomeroy
Price (NC)
Rahall
Rangel
Reichert
Reyes
Rodriguez
Ross
Rothman
Roybal-Allard
Ruppersberger
Rush
Ryan (OH)
Salazar
Sanchez, Linda T.
Sanchez, Loretta
Sarbanes
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schwartz
Scott (GA)
Scott (VA)
Serrano
Sestak
Shea-Porter
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Sherman
Shuler
Sires
Skelton
Slaughter
Smith (WA)
Snyder
Solis
Space
Spratt
Stark
Stupak
Sutton
Tanner
Tauscher
Taylor
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Tierney
Towns
Udall (CO)
Udall (NM)
Van Hollen
Velazquez
Visclosky
Walz (MN)
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Watson
Watt
Waxman
Weiner
Welch (VT)
Wexler
Wilson (OH)
Woolsey
Wu
Wynn
Yarmuth
NAYS--195
Aderholt
Akin
Alexander
Bachmann
Bachus
Baker
Barrett (SC)
Barrow
Bartlett (MD)
Barton (TX)
Biggert
Bilbray
Bilirakis
Bishop (UT)
Blackburn
Blunt
Boehner
Bonner
Boozman
Boustany
Brady (TX)
Brown (SC)
Brown-Waite, Ginny
Buchanan
Burgess
Burton (IN)
Buyer
Calvert
Campbell (CA)
Cannon
Cantor
Capito
Carter
Castle
Chabot
Coble
Cole (OK)
Conaway
Crenshaw
Cubin
Culberson
Davis (KY)
Davis, David
Davis, Tom
Deal (GA)
Dent
Diaz-Balart, L.
Diaz-Balart, M.
Doolittle
Drake
Dreier
Duncan
Ehlers
Emerson
English (PA)
Everett
Fallin
Feeney
Ferguson
Flake
Forbes
Fortenberry
Fossella
Foxx
Franks (AZ)
Frelinghuysen
Gallegly
Garrett (NJ)
Gerlach
Gilchrest
Gillmor
Gingrey
Gohmert
Goode
Goodlatte
Granger
Graves
Hall (TX)
Hastert
Hastings (WA)
Hayes
Heller
Hensarling
Herger
Hobson
Hoekstra
Hulshof
Hunter
Inglis (SC)
Issa
Jindal
Johnson (IL)
Johnson, Sam
Jones (NC)
Jordan
Keller
King (IA)
King (NY)
Kingston
Kirk
Kline (MN)
Knollenberg
Kuhl (NY)
LaHood
Lamborn
Latham
LaTourette
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (KY)
Linder
LoBiondo
Lucas
Lungren, Daniel E.
Mack
Manzullo
Marchant
McCarthy (CA)
McCaul (TX)
McCotter
McCrery
McHenry
McHugh
McKeon
McMorris Rodgers
Mica
Miller (FL)
Miller (MI)
Miller, Gary
Moran (KS)
Murphy, Tim
Musgrave
Myrick
Neugebauer
Nunes
Paul
Pearce
Peterson (PA)
Petri
Pickering
Platts
Poe
Porter
Price (GA)
Pryce (OH)
Putnam
Ramstad
Regula
Rehberg
Renzi
Reynolds
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rogers (MI)
Rohrabacher
Ros-Lehtinen
Roskam
Royce
Ryan (WI)
Sali
Saxton
Schmidt
Sensenbrenner
Sessions
Shadegg
Shays
Shimkus
Shuster
Simpson
Smith (NE)
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Souder
Stearns
Sullivan
Tancredo
Terry
Thornberry
Tiahrt
Tiberi
Turner
Upton
Walberg
Walden (OR)
Walsh (NY)
Wamp
Weldon (FL)
Weller
Westmoreland
Whitfield
Wicker
Wilson (NM)
Wilson (SC)
Wolf
Young (AK)
Young (FL)
NOT VOTING--10
Bono
Camp (MI)
Davis, Jo Ann
Kanjorski
Larson (CT)
McCollum (MN)
McDermott
Pence
Pitts
Radanovich
{time} 1157
Messrs. PETRI, SULLIVAN, TIAHRT and BARTON of Texas changed their
vote from ``yea'' to ``nay.''
So the previous question was ordered.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the resolution.
The resolution was agreed to.
A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.
{time} 1200
Ms. MILLENDER-McDONALD. Mr. Speaker, pursuant to the rule previously
adopted, I call up the resolution (H. Res. 202) providing for the
expenses of certain committees of the House of Representatives in the
One Hundred Tenth Congress, and ask for its immediate consideration in
the House.
The Clerk read the title of the resolution.
The text of the resolution is as follows:
H. Res. 202
Resolved,
SECTION 1. COMMITTEE EXPENSES FOR THE ONE HUNDRED TENTH
CONGRESS.
(a) In General.--With respect to the One Hundred Tenth
Congress, there shall be paid out of the applicable accounts
of the House of Representatives, in accordance with this
primary expense resolution, not more than the amount
specified in subsection (b) for the expenses (including the
expenses of all staff salaries) of each committee named in
such subsection.
(b) Committees and Amounts.--The committees and amounts
referred to in subsection (a) are: Committee on Agriculture,
$12,398,755; Committee on Armed Services, $15,469,004;
Committee on the Budget, $12,026,478; Committee on Education
and Labor, $16,334,250; Committee on Energy and Commerce,
$25,874,614; Committee on Financial Services, $16,575,710;
Committee on Foreign Affairs, $17,953,805; Committee on
Homeland Security, $16,511,877; Committee on House
Administration, $10,214,461; Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence, $10,409,000; Committee on the Judiciary,
$16,657,587; Committee on Natural Resources, $15,581,951;
Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, $22,876,214;
Committee on Rules, $6,781,540; Committee on Science and
Technology, $13,209,820; Committee on Small Business,
$6,257,410; Committee on Standards of Official Conduct,
$6,119,301; Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure,
$19,724,511.24; Committee on Veterans' Affairs,
$6,933,319.44; and Committee on Ways and Means,
$20,059,513.60.
SEC. 2. FIRST SESSION LIMITATIONS.
(a) In General.--Of the amount provided for in section 1
for each committee named in subsection (b), not more than the
amount specified in such subsection shall be available for
expenses incurred during the period beginning at noon on
January 3, 2007, and ending immediately before noon on
January 3, 2008.
(b) Committees and Amounts.--The committees and amounts
referred to in subsection (a) are: Committee on Agriculture,
$5,954,462; Committee on Armed Services, $6,883,959;
Committee on the Budget, $6,013,239; Committee on Education
and Labor, $8,025,500; Committee on Energy and Commerce,
$11,013,668; Committee on Financial Services, $8,029,517;
Committee on Foreign Affairs, $8,762,228; Committee on
Homeland Security, $8,132,028; Committee on House
Administration, $5,033,242; Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence, $5,077,000; Committee on the Judiciary,
$8,165,484; Committee on Natural Resources, $7,638,213;
Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, $10,790,667;
Committee on Rules, $3,357,198; Committee on Science and
Technology, $6,475,402; Committee on Small Business,
$3,009,086; Committee on Standards of Official Conduct,
$2,996,561; Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure,
$9,528,749.39; Committee on Veterans' Affairs, $3,398,686;
and Committee on Ways and Means, $9,785,128.60.
SEC. 3. SECOND SESSION LIMITATIONS.
(a) In General.--Of the amount provided for in section 1
for each committee named in subsection (b), not more than the
amount specified in such subsection shall be available for
expenses incurred during the period beginning at noon on
January 3, 2008, and ending immediately before noon on
January 3, 2009.
(b) Committees and Amounts.--The committees and amounts
referred to in subsection (a) are: Committee on Agriculture,
$6,444,293; Committee on Armed Services, $8,585,045;
Committee on the Budget, $6,013,239; Committee on Education
and Labor, $8,308,750; Committee on Energy and Commerce,
$14,860,946; Committee on Financial Services, $8,546,193;
Committee on Foreign Affairs, $9,191,577; Committee on
Homeland Security, $8,379,849; Committee on House
Administration, $5,181,219; Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence, $5,332,000; Committee on the Judiciary,
$8,492,103; Committee on Natural Resources, $7,943,738;
Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, $12,085,547;
Committee on Rules, $3,424,342; Committee on Science and
Technology, $6,734,418; Committee on Small Business,
$3,248,324; Committee on Standards of Official Conduct,
$3,122,740; Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure,
$10,195,761.85; Committee on Veterans' Affairs,
$3,534,633.44; and Committee on Ways and Means, $10,274,385.
SEC. 4. VOUCHERS.
Payments under this resolution shall be made on vouchers
authorized by the committee involved, signed by the chairman
of such committee, and approved in the manner directed by the
Committee on House Administration.
SEC. 5. REGULATIONS.
Amounts made available under this resolution shall be
expended in accordance with regulations prescribed by the
Committee on House Administration.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to House Resolution 219, the
amendment in the nature of a substitute printed in the resolution,
modified by the amendment printed in House Report 110-34, is adopted
and the resolution, as amended, is considered read.
The text of the resolution, as amended, is as follows:
H. Res. 202
Resolved,
SECTION 1. COMMITTEE EXPENSES FOR THE ONE HUNDRED TENTH
CONGRESS.
(a) In General.--With respect to the One Hundred Tenth
Congress, there shall be paid out of the applicable accounts
of the House of Representatives, in accordance with this
primary expense resolution, not more than the amount
specified in subsection (b) for the expenses (including the
expenses of all staff salaries) of each committee named in
such subsection.
(b) Committees and Amounts.--The committees and amounts
referred to in subsection (a) are: Committee on Agriculture,
$11,995,306; Committee on Armed Services, $14,618,946;
Committee on the Budget, $12,520,064; Committee on Education
and Labor, $16,213,840; Committee on Energy and Commerce,
$21,056,249; Committee on Financial Services, $16,189,138;
Committee on
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Foreign Affairs, $17,391,504; Committee on Homeland Security,
$16,448,403; Committee on House Administration, $10,214,461;
Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, $10,467,084;
Committee on the Judiciary, $16,347,324; Committee on Natural
Resources, $15,288,192; Committee on Oversight and Government
Reform, $21,602,950; Committee on Rules, $6,852,908;
Committee on Science and Technology, $12,963,775; Committee
on Small Business, $5,965,945; Committee on Standards of
Official Conduct, $4,994,181; Committee on Transportation and
Infrastructure, $19,261,795; Committee on Veterans' Affairs,
$7,076,347; and Committee on Ways and Means, $19,040,609.
SEC. 2. FIRST SESSION LIMITATIONS.
(a) In General.--Of the amount provided for in section 1
for each committee named in subsection (b), not more than the
amount specified in such subsection shall be available for
expenses incurred during the period beginning at noon on
January 3, 2007, and ending immediately before noon on
January 3, 2008.
(b) Committees and Amounts.--The committees and amounts
referred to in subsection (a) are: Committee on Agriculture,
$5,910,765; Committee on Armed Services, $7,203,581;
Committee on the Budget, $6,169,343; Committee on Education
and Labor, $7,989,475; Committee on Energy and Commerce,
$10,375,603; Committee on Financial Services, $7,977,303;
Committee on Foreign Affairs, $8,569,776; Committee on
Homeland Security, $8,105,057; Committee on House
Administration, $5,033,242; Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence, $5,157,724; Committee on the Judiciary,
$8,055,250; Committee on Natural Resources, $7,533,355;
Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, $10,644,994;
Committee on Rules, $3,376,815; Committee on Science and
Technology, $6,387,984; Committee on Small Business,
$2,939,758; Committee on Standards of Official Conduct,
$2,460,915; Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure,
$9,491,374; Committee on Veterans' Affairs, $3,486,916; and
Committee on Ways and Means, $9,382,384.
SEC. 3. SECOND SESSION LIMITATIONS.
(a) In General.--Of the amount provided for in section 1
for each committee named in subsection (b), not more than the
amount specified in such subsection shall be available for
expenses incurred during the period beginning at noon on
January 3, 2008, and ending immediately before noon on
January 3, 2009.
(b) Committees and Amounts.--The committees and amounts
referred to in subsection (a) are: Committee on Agriculture,
$6,084,541; Committee on Armed Services, $7,415,366;
Committee on the Budget, $6,350,721; Committee on Education
and Labor, $8,224,365; Committee on Energy and Commerce,
$10,680,646; Committee on Financial Services, $8,211,835;
Committee on Foreign Affairs, $8,821,728; Committee on
Homeland Security, $8,343,346; Committee on House
Administration, $5,181,219; Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence, $5,309,361; Committee on the Judiciary,
$8,292,074; Committee on Natural Resources, $7,754,836;
Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, $10,957,956;
Committee on Rules, $3,476,093; Committee on Science and
Technology, $6,575,791; Committee on Small Business,
$3,026,187; Committee on Standards of Official Conduct,
$2,533,266; Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure,
$9,770,421; Committee on Veterans' Affairs, $3,589,431; and
Committee on Ways and Means, $9,658,226.
SEC. 4. CREATION OF SELECT COMMITTEE ON ENERGY INDEPENDENCE
AND GLOBAL WARMING.
(a) Establishment.--There is hereby established a Select
Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming
(hereinafter in this section referred to as the ``select
committee'').
(b) Composition.--The select committee shall be composed of
15 members appointed by the Speaker, of whom 6 shall be
appointed on the recommendation of the Minority Leader. The
Speaker shall designate one member of the select committee as
its chairman. A vacancy in the membership of the select
committee shall be filled in the same manner as the original
appointment.
(c) Jurisdiction.--The select committee shall not have
legislative jurisdiction and shall have no authority to take
legislative action on any bill or resolution. Its sole
authority shall be to investigate, study, make findings, and
develop recommendations on policies, strategies, technologies
and other innovations, intended to reduce the dependence of
the United States on foreign sources of energy and achieve
substantial and permanent reductions in emissions and other
activities that contribute to climate change and global
warming.
(d) Procedure.--(1) Except as specified in paragraph (2),
the select committee shall have the authorities and
responsibilities of, and shall be subject to the same
limitations and restrictions as, a standing committee of the
House, and shall be deemed a committee of the House for all
purposes of law or rule.
(2)(A) Rules X and XI of the Rules of the House of
Representatives shall apply to the select committee where not
inconsistent with this resolution.
(B) Service on the select committee shall not count against
the limitations in clause 5(b)(2) of rule X.
(e) Funding.--
(1) In general.--There shall be paid out of the applicable
accounts of the House of Representatives not more than
$3,725,467 for the expenses (including the expenses of all
staff salaries) of the select committee.
(2) Limitations.--Of the amount provided for in paragraph
(1) for the select committee--
(A) not more than $1,666,667 shall be available for
expenses incurred during the period beginning at noon on
March 1, 2007, and ending immediately before noon on January
3, 2008; and
(B) not more than $2,058,800 shall be available for
expenses incurred during the period beginning at noon on
January 3, 2008, and ending immediately before midnight on
January 1, 2009.
(f) Reporting.--The select committee may report to the
House from time to time the results of its investigations and
studies, together with such detailed findings and
recommendations as it may deem advisable. All such reports
shall be submitted to the House by October 31, 2008.
(g) Dissolution and Windup of Affairs.--The select
committee shall cease to exist on December 31, 2008.
(h) Disposition of Records.--Upon dissolution of the select
committee, its records shall become records of such standing
committee or committees as the Speaker may designate.
SEC. 5. VOUCHERS.
Payments under this resolution shall be made on vouchers
authorized by the committee involved, signed by the chairman
of such committee, and approved in the manner directed by the
Committee on House Administration.
SEC. 6. REGULATIONS.
Amounts made available under this resolution shall be
expended in accordance with regulations prescribed by the
Committee on House Administration.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentlewoman from California (Ms.
Millender-McDonald) and the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Ehlers) each
will control 30 minutes.
The Chair recognizes the gentlewoman from California.
Ms. MILLENDER-McDONALD. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I
may consume.
I would like to thank the ranking member, Mr. Ehlers, and all of the
members on the Committee on House Administration for their assistance
in meeting a very tight schedule. We have been able to perform what
normally takes many months in a much shorter time period.
Unfortunately, that necessitated some quick decisions, which we would
all have preferred more time to make.
I would also like to thank the Chairs and the ranking members of the
committees for meeting the deadline that I set forth. I know that there
were concerns about foreshortening the process, but this resolution
will provide for operating certainty.
The committee's recommendations are driven by the amount of funds
available to be allocated to the committees. The continuing resolution,
the CR, funding all government operations contained a very modest
amount for committees, and it is the CR funds which my committee had to
work with.
All committees which testified were treated in exactly the same way.
At our hearing, the first question of each committee was, Is the
minority satisfied with the allocation of funds for its operations?
Almost without exception, Mr. Speaker, the minority expressed
satisfaction. Even when there was initial disagreement, the chairman
and ranking member found common ground before the House Administration
markup.
This committee recognizes that each standing committee carefully
assessed its anticipated workload and requested all of its sums it
considered necessary to discharge its responsibilities. Unfortunately,
when the 109th Congress adjourned, the fiscal 2007 appropriations
process was unfinished. That led to the CR, which greatly limited this
committee's options in the authorization process for the 110th
Congress. And with severely limited resources, my committee was able to
recommend across-the-board inflationary adjustments of 2.6 percent for
2007, and 2.94 percent for 2008. Without additional appropriations, no
further adjustments were possible.
My committee's amendment in the nature of a substitute authorizes
$280,234,490 for the entire 110th Congress, and that includes funding
for the select committee just added by the rule.
The committee believes that the Chairs and ranking members will
shepherd their resources carefully and despite the approximately $1
million shortfall will still be able to fulfill their responsibilities
to the House. The lone panel to receive a supplemental amount was the
Armed Services Committee, which bears an exceptionally heavy burden and
must be considered a special case.
The war in Iraq has taken the lives of more than 3,000 American
service personnel, wounded tens of thousands more, and consumed
hundreds of billions of dollars over the last 4 years. The Armed
Services Committee has an enormous responsibility going forward and
must have the resources with which to oversee America's military policy
in Iraq and around the world.
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Given the gravity of Armed Services' task, House Administration
recommended an additional increase of $500,000 for 2007. While
appropriations for 2008 have yet to be enacted, the committee's
amendment reflects the best assessment by the appropriators and by the
House financial managers of the amount that will be available to
support committees during the second session.
Committee workloads increase during the second session of any
Congress, and I expect this pattern to continue as committees engage in
the critical legislative and oversight work which the American people
voted for last November.
As I indicated earlier, every effort was made to ensure that the
fairness principle was applied during the funding process. The purpose
is to ensure that the minority party can serve as the loyal opposition
and contribute fully to the legislative and oversight initiatives of
each committee.
The fairness principle takes the form of the one-third rule, which
was advocated by both Republicans and Democrats when they served in the
minority. The committee believes the principle has now become firmly
established in the allocation of resources, committee by committee, and
that irrespective of which party is in the majority, the one-third rule
will be carried forward. Each committee must nonetheless implement the
principle consistent with its own operating practices and procedures.
As Chairs and ranking members change from Congress to Congress, the
committee expects that the fairness principle will continue to address
the needs of the minority.
There were many concerns expressed during this year's truncated
funding process, not the least of which was the overall inadequacy of
funds to meet the collective needs of the committees. From the
beginning of the Congress, even before the adoption of the CR,
committees were counseled to operate on a flatline spending basis in
order to avoid a shortfall later in the Congress. Most committees
followed that guideline and many kept their eventual funding requests
within a few percentage points of the flatline spending rate of the
preceding session, one committee even restraining its request to
preclude an inflation adjustment for both personnel costs and operating
expenses.
The committee appreciates the efforts of committees to keep their
requests as low as feasible, given the backlog of the oversight
responsibilities to be carried out and the legislative agenda set out
by the House leadership. However, the committee recognizes the
continuing needs of many committees to support and expand their
agendas. As a result, both I and the ranking member, Mr. Ehlers,
indicated that if additional funds became available for distribution,
the committee would entertain future requests to supplement the
authorized levels in this resolution.
In addition to the Chairs' and ranking members' concerns about the
overall spending shortfall and the impact on staffing levels, there
were additional concerns expressed about the ability of committees to
attract and maintain senior legislative and oversight professionals
because the current salary cap is not competitive with the private
sector. A few committees indicated that some new employees were
accepting committee positions at salaries below their previous private
sector levels based upon a desire to perform public service, and we are
very grateful to those staff persons who have done that and will do
that. While this is laudable, and some individuals may be willing to
make such sacrifices, it remains imperative that committee salary caps
become competitive or congressional oversight will suffer.
Another theme carried forward from the 109th Congress committee
funding process was crowding, insufficient office space to manage and
maintain operations and adequately house the staff necessary to perform
the legislative and oversight duties. While some committee have
received additional work space, it is often in other buildings, and not
even contiguous to other committee offices, making it very difficult to
work. This broken-up space introduces operation inefficiencies, and we
recognize that, Mr. Speaker. And while the committee does not assign or
manage office space, it agreed to bring the committee's overall office
space concerns to the attention of the House leadership in the hope
that future building changes or innovations will take committee needs
into consideration.
Again, I thank all of the members on the Committee on House
Administration. I thank the ranking member, Mr. Ehlers, and all of
those committee members, both sides of the aisle, who partook of this
extremely long hearing that we got all of the committees and the
ranking members in, and I applaud all of them for their tolerance.
And with that, Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. EHLERS. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
I rise today in support of H. Res. 202, which provides approximately
a 2.4 percent increase to committee budgets in the 110th Congress.
I believe I speak for both myself and my colleague, Ms. Millender-
McDonald, when I say we would have liked to have seen a larger increase
to relieve some of the financial constraints that have been placed on
committees. I totally agree with her concerns, which she expressed a
moment ago, about the salaries of staff members, both in personal
offices and in committees, and several Members on our side of the aisle
have raised that same concern with me.
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We, of course, as Members of the Congress, will not receive any
increase in salary this year, but we expected that, and we have no
problem dealing with that. However, it is different for our staffs.
They have lush fields of opportunity outside of this institution, and
we hope that all staff members will bear with us during this lean time
during the next year or two and not be attracted to these lush fields,
but remain with us, so that the institution can continue to function as
well as it has.
The committee and ranking members alike face an increasing workload
each year with limited resources and staff. Despite the funding
limitations we have this year, it is my sincere hope that even a modest
increase will be of use to committees in performing the important work
that they do, and also my fond hope that through a normal
appropriations process this year, there will be adequate funding to
deal with the business of the Congress during the next fiscal year.
My goal during the course of providing funding levels for House
committees in the 110th Congress has been twofold: first, to maintain
what has in the last few years been a relatively smooth committee
funding process. Many of our chairmen and ranking members have
established standing precedents about the operating practices within
their respective committees and have functioned for many years in
accordance with those principles. Based on the productive hearing we
held last week during which the chairs and ranking members testified on
their budget requests, I believe we have continued that smooth process
following the pattern of the last several Congresses.
Second, I wanted to ensure that an equitable division of funding
continues. When the Republicans previously served in the minority, we
were not provided with sufficient funds or staff. As an example, one of
the major committees was given only 11 percent of the resources
assigned to that committee, whereas the then majority, the Democrats,
retained 89 percent for themselves. This is not appropriate or fair.
During the course of the past 12 years, the Committee on House
Administration has reached an agreement on maintaining two-thirds of
the funding for the majority and one-third for the minority, and I am
very pleased that every committee chairman who came before the
committee promised to honor and continue that commitment, that
allocation, and we are delighted that the new majority's continuation
of that split will serve as good guidance for the future as well. It is
vital to the strength of the House of Representatives as an institution
that the minority, no matter which party it is, continues to be given
adequate resources, and that each chairman and ranking member be able
to come to an arrangement that is satisfactory for both parties.
Adjustments to the two-thirds/one-third budget allocation have been
made
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in the past, for instance through the years of shared staff or a
centrally managed budget for non-personnel expenditures. My goal is not
to discourage these types of arrangements between the chairman and the
ranking minority member. In fact, I admire the creativity and
cooperation demonstrated by some of our chairmen and ranking members to
establish a process that works for their particular committees.
However, I do want to ensure that those in the minority continue to be
given adequate resources and that each chairman and ranking member are
able to come to an arrangement that is satisfactory for both parties.
I conclude by thanking our chairwoman, Ms. Millender-McDonald, for
conducting this process in an open and transparent fashion. While we
were only able to provide a small percentage increase for each
committee when compared to last year's budget, we are pleased that we
have accomplished the goals of a smooth process that maintains the two-
thirds/one-third allocation.
Ms. MILLENDER-McDONALD. Mr. Speaker, I continue to reserve the
balance of my time.
Mr. EHLERS. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 5 minutes to the
gentleman from California (Mr. McCarthy), a junior member of our
committee, but a very experienced junior member, one of the outstanding
freshmen and a member of the steering committee.
Mr. McCARTHY of California. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for
yielding, and I appreciate the work that he has done.
Mr. Speaker, I rise today to reluctantly oppose this. As a member of
the House Administration Committee, I sat through the hearings that we
had, where the chairmen and the ranking members came before us and
talked about what they needed in funding, and it was our
accountability, our role to oversee that. We went through the
committees.
But after this resolution was done and went to the Rules Committee,
the Rules Committee created a new select committee, added $3.7 million,
going beyond the jurisdiction of House Administration. Where is the
accountability? Where is the approval process? Where is the role of
this House and this committee to oversee that?
If the Rules Committee felt we had $3.7 million more to spend, I
think there would be other places to spend it. For one, when we look at
the ethics and the changes in this House and what this House wants to
accomplish, I am a new Member, I sat on this floor the day we were
sworn in, and I listened to our Speaker when she said she wanted a new
House, when she talked about changing partisanship and making it
partnership.
I do not see partnership with the Rules Committee overstepping the
bounds of the House Administration Committee. I do not see partnership
when we have put new rules on this floor, when the Ethics Committee
needs to oversee them, when the Ethics Committee needs to be able to
interpret them and bring them back to this floor so this floor
understands it, is able to live by it and be the House that the people
want it to be.
So I stand before you reluctantly, because I voted for the version
that went before the House Administration Committee, but I will not
vote for the version that came back from the Rules Committee. I believe
it is overstepping its bounds. I believe the jurisdiction, the
accountability, rests in the House Administration Committee, just like
every other individual when they were the chair or ranking member and
had to stand before us and had to justify the money they were going to
spend.
Ms. MILLENDER-McDONALD. Mr. Speaker, I continue to reserve the
balance of my time.
Mr. EHLERS. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume
for a brief comment.
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from California for his comments,
and I certainly agree with him. It would have been much better had that
special committee been processed through the Committee on House
Administration, as all other committees are. I want to also let him
know it is even worse than he said, because the total over the 2-year
life of this special committee, the select committee that is being
formed, is approximately, $3.7 million, which is a large amount of
money for any committee to have.
Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 9 minutes to another gentleman
from California (Mr. Daniel E. Lungren), who is also on our committee.
Mr. DANIEL E. LUNGREN of California. Mr. Speaker, I thank the
gentleman for yielding.
Mr. Speaker, at first I would like to congratulate both the
chairwoman and the ranking member of this committee for the bipartisan
way in which they have acted in bringing this bill to the floor, this
funding resolution, which is part of the regular business of this
House, making sure that we can do the people's business here in an
organized fashion.
We listened to all of the presentations made by the various committee
chairs and ranking members. I was very pleased to see the agreement on
the one-third/two-thirds funding rule. As one who served here in a
prior life, I can recall when it wasn't so. I can recall at one point
in time on one of the committees that I won't mention where I believe
the difference in staff ratio at the time I served was something like
7-to-1. I can recall when we got something like 11 percent of the total
funding. That made it difficult.
We used to encourage our people by saying you have to be that much
better than the others. We have to be seven times better. You have to
work seven times harder. You can only say that for so long, and you can
only do so much with limited resources.
So the rule that has been established over the last number of years
that the minority receives one-third of the funding, approximately, is
one that works well for both the majority and the minority. It is good
for the minority to have sufficient resources so they not only can
present their point of view, but also it keeps the majority on its
toes. The direct result of that is better legislative product. So I am
pleased that that came through.
However, I must once again register my objection to our inability to
give appropriate funding to the Committee on Standards of Official
Conduct. As the chairwoman of that committee said when she appeared
before our committee, ``Ethics is neither a Democratic nor a Republican
issue. It is an American issue.''
It is an issue that is essential to the proper functioning of this
House, and it is something for which we have received black eyes of
recent vintage and for which we deserve those black eyes because of the
conduct of errant Members in this House. And to provide against that
from happening again, to encourage that that does not happen again, we
have adopted more stringent rules than we have had in this House, in
recent memory at least.
In order to assure that Members are able to follow the details of the
rules that have been established, the Ethics Committee, or the
committee properly understood as the Committee on Standards of Official
Conduct, has been given additional responsibilities so that Members can
rely on their advice in a timely fashion. They do great work. We have
dedicated people there, but they will not be able to do the job we give
them without additional resources.
This should not be a partisan issue. I for the life of me do not
understand the decision made not to give this money. I would have
thought the leadership could have put a spotlight on this, given
additional money to the Ethics Committee and issued a press release
about how they were ensuring that we were going to actually put our
money where our mouth was and we were going to have the adequate
resources in order to make real the promise that we have given the
American people on ethics.
For the life of me, I don't understand why we couldn't find another
$1 million for the Ethics Committee. I don't serve on the Ethics
Committee, but I don't want to see a Member caught in technical
violation of the rules we have adopted for lack of adequate information
or available or timely information. I don't want to see a Member who
has technically violated our rules because that Member couldn't get a
timely response from the committee. Not because the committee doesn't
wish to give them that, but because the committee essentially doesn't
have the personnel to be able to do that.
We may very well tie ourselves up in knots. Now, the American people
probably aren't concerned about whether
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we tie ourselves up in knots, but they are concerned about whether our
actions reflect the best standards of ethics that we can have. So it is
a question of maintaining the confidence of the American people in this
institution.
Mr. Speaker, I come here not to talk about a partisan issue and not
to talk about an issue that just affects Members of Congress, but an
institutional issue. If, in fact, we have created a bond with the
American people, and part of that bond is a contract where we hold
ourselves out to perform our duties at the highest level of ethical
conduct, then in fact we should ensure that that is not difficult to
do, but that is expected and easy to do because we have established the
strictures in this House and we have established the resources to allow
Members to perform within those ethical strictures.
That is why I would stand on this floor today and say that the
request of the Committee on Standards of Official Conduct for $6.1
million, which would be an increase of $1.35 million, is absolutely
necessary.
I had every intention of supporting the committee's work on this and
being able to recommend this to my fellow Members. I cannot do this.
We have the argument about the other committee that came in with the
funding that was put in by a self-executing aspect of the rule just
adopted. But that is not what I am arguing about. I am arguing about
the absolutely essential need for us to give sufficient resources for
the Committee on Ethics to do its work.
As the chairwoman of the committee said in testimony to us directly,
these positions that are requested by the Ethics Committee for which
they sought the funding that was denied them, these positions are
needed to satisfy the mandates of the House ethics rule. She did not
say it would be nice to have them. These are additional. These are
surplus, to make sure we can do our job. The words were carefully
chosen: These positions are needed to satisfy the mandates of the House
Ethics Committee.
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We need to continue talking about this. We need to work as a
committee. If we can do anything about this, I would implore the
leadership to take another look at this because it doesn't hurt a
Democrat or Republican; it doesn't hurt one individual Member or
another. It hurts us all collectively if we fail to give ourselves the
best opportunity to show the American people not only are we doing the
American people's work, we are doing it based on merit. We are doing it
based on a system that is fully ethical, and we don't take this as a
burden. We take it as a necessary responsibility, and we understand
that not only are we doing the people's business, but we are in a real
sense on a stage which requires us to be teachers for many people.
Many young people look at this place and many young people have the
opportunity to visit here, and many young people have the opportunity
to see our workings here by way of C-SPAN, and I don't want them to be
watching in the well of the House as we condemn a Member, as we expel a
Member, or we reprimand a Member for inappropriate conduct, and have
that Member stand here and say: if only you had given me the resources
so I would have known what the rules really were.
I don't want that to be the excuse. I want us to say that we stand
here as an ethical, collective body, and that we will put our money
where our mouth is. I would just end by saying this: we would not allow
a corporation to say they couldn't comply with Sarbanes-Oxley and the
new responsibilities under ethics and reporting because they couldn't
afford to hire the lawyers and the accountants to do it. We would say
that was your obligation.
If we believe that is the obligation in the private sector, we ought
to do the very same for ourselves as we stand here in the largest
corporation in the world. As the members of the board of directors of
the largest corporation in the world that spends more money in the
world, we stand here saying we will be as serious about our
responsibilities as we expect you to be about yours.
Ms. MILLENDER-McDONALD. Mr. Speaker, I agree with Mr. Daniel E.
Lungren that we need to take another look at perhaps supplemental
funding, and we welcome that thought and we will pursue that, Mr.
Daniel E. Lungren, because there is no Member of this House who doesn't
want to make sure that the voices of the American people last year will
not be taken seriously and will be heard and responded to.
I am so very happy, Mr. Speaker, that the chairwoman on the Committee
on Standards and the Ethics Committee came to the floor during the
rules deliberation, and she stated that while she would want additional
funding, she will guarantee us that that committee will work
effectively and efficiently to provide the type of service that is
necessary to make sure that the Ethics Committee gives us what it wants
us to have. And she said that the best standards of ethics will still
be maintained irrespective of.
Now, Mr. Daniel E. Lungren did say we need an extra million dollars.
If you look at this, there is a possibility that half a million per
session each year would perhaps be the type of funding that we need. If
that is the case, Mr. Speaker, the supplemental expense resolution
pursuant to House rule X for additional funding is where we will pursue
that.
I thank the gentleman, but we are complying with, and the Ethics
Committee chairwoman said that there will still be maintained, the
highest level of standards, and they will do their work efficiently.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. EHLERS. Mr. Speaker, I have no other speakers, and I yield myself
the balance of my time to conclude.
I wish to make a few comments about some of the points raised by the
members of the committee on our side of the aisle.
First, I voted for this resolution as it came out of committee,
without any dissent, because I thought we had done the best job we
could, with both parties working together, to fairly distribute the
limited funds that we had.
What is upsetting our side of the aisle and upsetting a number of
individuals are two things: first, the select committee apportionment.
I can assure you I am not opposed to forming the Energy Independence
and Global Warming Select Committee. It is a major issue, a major
topic, which probably has to be studied by a special task force, a
select committee, simply because the issue is so complex and cuts
across so many committees' jurisdictions that this is the only way to
effectively conduct the study and come to an answer.
I do, however, strongly object to the process of adding this huge
amount of money, $3.7 million, in the confines of the Rules Committee.
That is something that I had hoped and expected would come to our
Committee on House Administration so that the Chair of the committee
and I could work on this issue with all of the parties involved and
ascertain the needs of the select committee and determine the precise
allocation needed.
What particularly angers me about this is that we did not fully fund
the Ethics Committee at the level it should be funded. The reason was
we simply didn't have the money. Now, suddenly, there is an extra $3.7
million. I would have much preferred to allocate part of that to the
Ethics Committee and reduce the amount for the select committee. I am
sure they would not have noticed the difference, whereas the Ethics
Committee would notice a huge difference and would be able to do its
work effectively.
With those caveats, I want to express my disappointments with the
process, not within our committee, but the process outside our
committee. I wish it would have gone through our committee, and we
would have dealt with it properly.
My final comment is simply to say most Members of Congress do not
realize what an incredible amount of work goes into this budget
process. It took our committee a full day just to hear the testimony,
but that was the easy part. The tough part is for the staff to assemble
all of the numbers and get them in order, particularly when there is a
transition from one party to the other. That adds complexity and
difficulty to the task.
I want to thank Peter Sloan and George Hadijski from our side of the
aisle, who did an excellent, an outstanding job on this issue. But even
though normally one only praises the
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people on their own side of the aisle, I want to take special note of
some individuals who worked very, very hard on the majority side,
simply because their job was monumental having to do it for the first
time.
I particularly want to commend Charlie Howell, Janelle Hu and Matt
Pinkus for their hard work. They worked closely with our team, and we
were very happy to help them. But I can't emphasize enough what a
horrendous task this is to put together all these budgets very quickly,
and both sides did yeomen's work. I am very pleased.
I think they set a pattern for the committee because they worked so
closely together on this, both parties equally shouldering the burden
and not worrying about how many hours they were spending on whose job;
and I think that is a good pattern for us to follow for the next 2
years.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
Ms. MILLENDER-McDONALD. Mr. Speaker, I would like to join with the
ranking member again in thanking him for his forbearance during that
very strenuous hearing process.
I also join him in thanking the staff: Charlie Howell, who is just an
extraordinarily effective person, and who worked very hard with me to
make sure that all of the very thick material that was needed for this
process of hearings was available. And also Matt Pinkus, Janelle Hu and
Kristin McCowan, who all played an extraordinary part in making sure
that the process went smoothly, although it was very long.
I would also like to thank the minority staff because together they
worked very well with the staff to ensure that this process went as
smoothly as it could. So I thank all of these folks and the ranking
member and all of the members of the committee, the Chairs and the
ranking members of all committees, for bearing with us in a tightly
budgeted Congress.
I know that our resolution satisfies no one; however, I also know
that when legislative and oversight agendas are set, they will be set
with a keen eye to how to best use available funds. I want to assure
all Chairs and ranking members that my committee will consider all
requests for supplemental funding based upon whether or not additional
funds are made available to the House. Right now, however, we must all
live within our flatline budget constraints because, after all, there
was no budget passed last year in the 109th Congress, and we are
operating under a continuing resolution.
Indeed, the American people have spoken. They spoke last year, and
the Congress must respond to their demands. We all serve as trustees
for their voices and their dollars, and I know that each committee will
use the funds entrusted to it wisely.
This committee recognizes that each standing committee carefully
assessed its anticipated workload and requested only the sums it
considered necessary to discharge its responsibilities. Nonetheless,
with severely limited resources, the across-the-board inflationary
adjustments share the pain equally.
This resolution has the lowest overall committee expenditure
authorization level in the last three Congresses, even including the
new select committee. At $280 million for the entire 110th Congress, it
is an overall decrease of approximately 2 percent, Mr. Speaker. And
that is a reversal for which this House should take credit.
Mrs. TAUSCHER. Mr. Speaker, I strongly commend Speaker Pelosi for
showing tremendous leadership on this issue and creating the Select
Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming. This committee
will provide Congress the opportunity to conduct important and
essential oversight that is long overdue.
I remain deeply concerned about global warming and have been appalled
by the Bush Administration's failure to provide any leadership on one
of the most important environmental, economic, and moral issues of our
time. As the largest producer of greenhouse gasses in the world, the
United States must enact national emissions controls to curb our
country's contribution to global warming.
European Union leaders are meeting this week to consider plans to cut
greenhouse gas emissions by 20 percent by the year 2020, a first step
in a post-Kyoto global warming strategy that could lead to mandatory
limits for cars and pollution allowances for airlines.
While these actions are critical, the United States needs to lead in
this area as Speaker Pelosi is working to achieve. It is high time for
the Bush administration to stop questioning the science behind global
warming and act to protect future generations.
The Secretary General of the United Nations stated this week that
``the danger posed by war to all of humanity--and to our planet--is at
least matched by the climate crisis and global warming.''
As a Representative of California, I am proud to be a cosponsor of
the Safe Climate Act, which was introduced last year and will be
offered again this year. The goal of the Safe Climate Act is to reach
1990 emissions levels by 2020 and then to continue to cut emissions
through 2050.
In order to achieve these cuts, the Environmental Protection Agency
would be instructed to set national standards for vehicle emissions at
the levels mandated by California state law, which has the strictest
vehicle emissions laws in the country. By focusing on an increased use
of renewable energy and allowing the nation's largest polluters to meet
new federal standards by buying and selling emissions allowances, the
Safe Climate Act sets out effective common-sense energy policies that
will reduce the United States' dependence on foreign oil while actively
addressing global warming.
Again, I praise Speaker Pelosi for drawing attention to this
important issue and working toward a solution.
I strongly support the passage of the Committee Funding Resolution
for the 110th Congress and the authorization for the Select Committee
on Energy Independence and Global Warming.
Ms. MILLENDER-McDONALD. Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my
time.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. McNerney). Pursuant to House Resolution
219, the previous question is ordered on the resolution, as amended.
The question is on the resolution.
The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that
the ayes appeared to have it.
Mr. EHLERS. Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.
The yeas and nays were ordered.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to clause 8 of rule XX, further
proceedings on this question will be postponed.
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