[Congressional Record Volume 153, Number 38 (Tuesday, March 6, 2007)]
[Senate]
[Pages S2678-S2690]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
IMPROVING AMERICA'S SECURITY ACT OF 2007--Continued
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from California.
Mrs. FEINSTEIN. Madam President, I believe I have 13 minutes; is that
correct?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. That is correct.
Amendment No. 335
Mrs. FEINSTEIN. Madam President, yesterday I spoke on an amendment we
offered. It is cosponsored by the Senator from Texas, Mr. Cornyn, as
well as Senators Lautenberg, Hutchison, Boxer, Schumer, Clinton, Obama,
Menendez, Kerry, Coburn, and Casey. Essentially, what this amendment
does is provide that more funds will go to States and localities based
on risk, threat, and vulnerability.
As you know, Madam President, the 9/11 Commission in their 25th
recommendation said, ``Homeland security assistance should be based
strictly on an assessment of risk and
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vulnerabilities.'' ``And Federal homeland security assistance should
not remain a program for general revenue sharing.''
In current law, 40 percent of the money goes to a guaranteed minimum
allocation--in other words, revenue sharing--and 60 percent is
allocated based only on risk and effectiveness. The Lieberman-Collins
bill--and I thank them--changes that. Twenty-four percent of the money
goes to satisfy this minimum revenue-sharing requirement, and 76
percent is allocated on risk and effectiveness. That is a major step
forward. There is no question about that. However, Senator Cornyn and I
and our cosponsors believe that in this day and age, we have to give
more money to risk, vulnerability, and threat. Therefore, the formula
we present in this amendment will give 87.5 percent of the dollars
based on risk and effectiveness, regardless of where that risk and
effectiveness is, and 13 percent will go to satisfy guaranteed minimum
allocation.
The second point I wish to make is that 35 States would benefit under
this amendment: Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut,
Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas,
Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri,
Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota,
Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Texas, Vermont, Virginia,
Washington, West Virginia, and Wisconsin.
I believe this is the right way to allocate homeland security
dollars.
Do you have the risk? Is there a threat? The President, in his State
of the Union Message, mentioned how a threat and a terrorist plot
against the tallest building on the west coast was eradicated. That
tallest building on the west coast is shown in this picture. It happens
to be the Library Tower building in Los Angeles--now under a new name,
but nonetheless ``Library Tower'' is its historic name. This is the
largest tower on the west coast. There was reportedly a second strike
by al-Qaida devoted to the west coast. So it seems to me that if there
is this kind of a threat, the money should go where the threat is.
States such as New York, California, and Texas have vast
infrastructures. Terrorists go where the hit is going to be greatest,
where the infrastructure is--big ports, big petroleum reserves, big
buildings, big congregations of people--and where they can do the most
psychological damage.
So we feel very strongly that this money should have an even stronger
formula that puts money where the risk and threat actually are.
I do wish to correct one thing. Someone on the floor, and I don't
know who, but somebody said Washington, DC, would receive less money
under this amendment. We do not alter the risk-based distribution of
the Urban Area Security Initiative Funds--which are called, in the
vernacular of Washington, UASIF--and that comprises the lion's share of
homeland security preparedness received in our Capital. Washington
received nearly $50 million in UASIF funds last year alone. So we do
not believe Washington would be negatively affected.
I know Senator Lautenberg wishes to come to the Chamber to speak. May
I inquire how many minutes of the 13 I have remaining?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator has 6\1/2\ minutes remaining.
Mrs. FEINSTEIN. Madam President, I reserve the remainder of my time
and yield the floor. I thank the Chair.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Vermont.
Mr. LEAHY. Madam President, would that it were that easy, as my
friend from California has said, I would be eager to vote for her
amendment, but she is assuming that rather than following what the law
now says, the head of the Department of Homeland Security will use
discretion always to benefit everybody's State--something we saw does
not always work, as the people suffered after Katrina.
Under the amendment of the Senator from California, States that will
substantially gain are California, Florida, Georgia, Illinois,
Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, New York, North Carolina,
Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas, and Washington. The States, however, that
lose or break even by lowering the all-State minimum for homeland
security formula grants are these. I hope Senators are listening
because they are going to be called upon to vote. These are the States
which lose or break even. They don't receive an additional amount. The
States that lose or break even by lowering the all-State minimum are
Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware,
District of Columbia, Hawaii, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky,
Maine, Maryland, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New
Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma.
Madam President, I haven't used my 13 minutes yet, have I? I still
have a lot more States to name.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator has 11 minutes.
Mr. LEAHY. I may need it.
Oregon, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah,
Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia, Wisconsin, and Wyoming.
In case anybody missed that, these are the States which will lose if
my colleagues do not adopt the Leahy-Thomas, et al amendment. These
States will lose if my colleagues adopt the amendment of the Senator
from California: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado,
Connecticut, Delaware, the District of Columbia, Hawaii, Idaho,
Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Minnesota,
Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New
Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Carolina,
South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia,
Wisconsin, and Wyoming. The Senators from those States, of course, feel
free to vote any way they want, but should anybody be checking back
home, they should know what their vote means.
I hope my colleagues will support the Leahy-Thomas amendment, No.
333, to restore the minimum allocation for States in the State Homeland
Security Grant Program from .45 percent, which is proposed by the
underlying bill, and bring it back to current law. We are not asking
for an increase but bring it back to current law, which is .75 percent.
If you don't, the proposed changes in the formula result in the loss of
millions in homeland security funding for the fire, police and rescue
departments in small- and medium-sized States. It will also deal a
crippling blow to dozens of States' efforts to fulfill federally
mandated multiyear plans to build and to sustain their terrorism
preparedness.
What I am saying is, the Federal Government has said: Here, small
States, cities, communities. Here is what we are saying you have to do.
Initially, they said: We will give you some money to help. But now we
are going to say: You still have to do it, but tax your people to do
it. We don't have the money. We are going to send it to the Iraqi fire
departments and to the Iraqi police departments. We are going to send
it to the Iraqi homeland security. We can't spend it on your State.
As with current law, the State minimum under our amendment would
continue to apply--and this is important--only to 40 percent of the
overall funding under this program. The majority of the funds would
continue to be allocated based on risk assessment criteria, which are
the funds of several separate discretionary programs the Congress has
established for solely urban and high-risk areas. A lot of these
smaller States have voted for these extra amounts for these urban and
high-risk areas. I think it is a good idea. The majority of the funds
are not allocated to these smaller States or to areas based on risk
assessment requirements. The underlying bill now before the Senate
would reduce the all-State minimum. The House bill reduces it even
further.
We know, however, that this is a matter that is going to face the
conference anyway, and because of these formula differences, there is
no guarantee that the minimum will not even further be slashed during
conference. Small- and medium-sized States face enormous cuts. With
appropriations for formula grants already being cut by 60 percent since
2003--$2.3 billion in 2003 to $900 million in fiscal year 2007--further
reductions to first-responder funding would hamper even more these
States' efforts. The cuts would be even deeper should the President's
budget request for next year be approved,
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since he has requested only $250 million for these two important first
responder grant programs.
I am almost tempted to tell some of these small States and towns to
change their names to Baghdad or northern Iraq or something similar to
that and they will get all the money they want but not if they want to
defend their own people here in the United States. I have heard the
argument from urban States, arguing that Federal money to fight
terrorism is wasted in smaller States. They seem to forget that the
attacks on 9/11 added to the responsibilities and the risks of all the
State and local first responders nationwide. The Federal Government has
called on all of them, and the portion that is allocated to all
States--again, only a portion of these funds--is part of the Federal
Government's fulfillment of that directive.
I hope my colleagues will support my amendment to restore the .75-
percent minimum base and ensure continued support and resources for our
police, fire, and ambulance services in every State. Homeland security
is a new responsibility entrusted to our first responders, and this
program, along with this assurance of basic help--not the special help
that goes to the large States but the special help that goes where we
see special needs--but this basic help will make a big difference.
Madam President, how much time do I have?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Four minutes.
Mr. LEAHY. Very quickly. Vote against my amendment, and here are the
States that lose: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado,
Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Hawaii, Idaho, Indiana,
Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Minnesota, Mississippi,
Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, North
Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota,
Tennessee, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia, Wisconsin, and
Wyoming. If you want to vote for my friend from California, the States
that do gain are: California, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Louisiana,
Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, New York, North Carolina, Ohio,
Pennsylvania, Texas, and Washington.
Madam President, I reserve the remainder of my time.
Mrs. FEINSTEIN. Madam President, I believe I have 6 minutes, and I
would like to use 2 of them.
I very much disagree with the figures of the distinguished Senator
from Vermont. We wrote to the Congressional Research Service and asked
them to compute the grant numbers. They gave us back a document, dated
February 27, that relates to the two programs funded in this bill. One
of them is the State Homeland Security Grant Program and the other is
the Law Enforcement Terrorism Prevention Program, and these are the
numbers that CRS presents. Actually, Vermont, according to CRS,
benefits $72,250, according to the Congressional Research Service, as
do 35 States. I didn't make up these numbers.
Madam President, I ask unanimous consent to print in the Record the
memorandum from the Congressional Research Service, which is a straight
mathematical computation.
There being no objection, the material was ordered to be printed in
the Record, as follows:
Congressional Research Service,
Washington, DC, February 27, 2007.
Memorandum
To: Senator Dianne Feinstein, Attention: Ahmad Thomas.
From: Steven Maguire, Analyst in Public Finance, Government
and Finance Division.
Subject: DHS Grants to States and Insular Areas Under H.R. 1,
S. 4, and S. 608.
This memorandum responds to your request for a comparison
of three legislative proposals: H.R. 1, S. 4 as approved by
the Senate Homeland Security Committee, and S. 608. In
particular, you asked CRS to estimate how much each state
would receive through two programs under each proposal: (1)
the State Homeland Security Grant Program (SHSGP) and (2) the
Law Enforcement Terrorism Prevention Program (LETPP). All
three proposals would lower the minimum grant award that
states could receive under current law. S. 608, unlike H.R. l
and S. 4, only sets a minimum for funds authorized for SHSGP.
You asked CRS, for comparative purposes, to include LETPP
funds in the minimum when calculating the state-by-state
allocations.
Note that a third related DHS grant program, the Urban
Areas Security Initiative (UASI), is not considered in this
memorandum. The total grant amount to each state would change
if UASI grant awards were included. However, the information
needed to estimate UASI grant awards to each state under the
three legislative proposals is not publicly available.
A question that immediately arises is how proposed changes
to the minimum grant awards would affect the aggregate SHSGP
and LETPP grant amounts awarded to each state, the District
of Columbia, Puerto Rico, and the insular areas. Answering
that question precisely, however, is problematic because DHS
does not disclose the risk and effectiveness scores it
assigns to grant applications. Accordingly, we relied on
three basic assumptions to generate what we consider
responsible ``rough justice'' estimates of grant amounts
under the aforementioned approaches:
Assumption 1. DHS Risk and effectiveness scores for each
applicant under the three proposals will equal those for
FY2006. This assumption is valid only to the extent that the
determinants of risk and effectiveness that pertain to each
applicant and the DHS scoring system do not significantly
vary from one year to the next.
Assumption 2. A proxy for each grant recipient's risk and
effectiveness score in FY2006 can be found in the ratio of
(a) the amount of the recipient's FY2006 total grant that was
based on risk and effectiveness to (b) the sum of risk and
effectiveness amounts for all recipients. In other words, if
one assumes that if a recipient received 5 percent of the
total funds available for allocation on the basis of risk and
effectiveness in FY2006, then that recipient will receive 5
percent of the total funds available for allocation on the
basis of risk and effectiveness under S. 608, H.R. 1, and S.
4.
Assumption 3. The total authorization for S. 608 and H.R. 1
will match the amount authorized in S. 4, to wit:
$913,180,500.
Caveat
The estimates presented in the following discussion are
intended for illustrative purposes only. Actual grant
allocations will almost certainly differ from the estimates
presented here. In addition, estimates for S. 608, which do
not include funds for LETPP in the minimum, are based on the
assumption that LETPP funds are included.
Calculating the Estimates
Estimating grants for each eligible recipient involves the
following steps, the results of which are shown in Table 1:
1. Establish the proxies for risk and effectiveness.
2. Allocate the total available $913,180,500 in proportion
to the proxies.
3. When a recipient's risk and effectiveness allocation is
less than the statutory minimum, allocate an additional
amount to reach the minimum.
4. Because this results in a total greater than
$913,180,500, proportionally reduce the grants of all
recipients in excess of the minimum to prevent exceeding the
authorization.
5. Display the resulting adjusted estimated allocations. .
Establishing Proxies for Risk and Effectiveness Scores. In
FY2006, Congress appropriated a total of $912 million for the
SHSGP and LETPP programs--40 percent ($365 million) was
allocated to satisfy the minimum grant award requirements for
eligible recipients and the remaining 60 percent ($547
million) was allocated based on risk and effectiveness.
Examination of column (b) in Table 1 shows, for example, that
California received 15.18 percent of the $547 million; New
York, 8.52 percent; Texas, 8.05 percent; and Florida, 6.82
percent. These percentages and the corresponding
percentage for each grant recipient serve as a proxy for
each jurisdiction's risk-and-effectiveness score for the
CRS estimated allocations under S. 608, H.R. 1, and S. 4.
Estimating Risk and Effectiveness. H.R. 1 and S. 4 would
allocate total SHSGP and LETPP amounts by risk and assessment
subject to statutory minimums--lower than under existing law.
In order to estimate the risk and effectiveness allocations
for each eligible jurisdiction, we multiply the proxy
percentage discussed above by the total authorization of
$913,180,500. For comparative purposes, as you instructed,
CRS used the same methodology for S. 608.
Meeting the Minimums. As noted earlier, existing law sets
two minimum amounts based on the total appropriation: 0.75
percent per state, the District of Columbia, and Puerto Rico,
0.25 percent for other U.S. insular areas. S. 608 would
ensure a minimum of 0.25 percent per state, the District of
Columbia, and Puerto Rico and 0.08 percent for other insular
areas. In contrast, S. 4 would ensure a minimum of 0.45
percent per state, the District of Columbia, and Puerto Rico.
The other U.S. insular areas would be guaranteed the same
0.08 percent. Under H.R. 1, however, there would be three
minimum amounts based on the total appropriation: 0.45
percent for international border states (18 states); 0.25
percent for states without an international border (32
states), the District of Columbia, and Puerto Rico; and 0.08
percent for the other U.S. insular areas. With an
authorization of $913,180,500, these minimums would be
$4,109,312 and $2,282,951 for the two categories of states,
respectively, and $730,544 for insular areas.
The last column of Table 1, column (f), compares S. 608 to
S. 4. A positive amount in column (f) indicates that the
state would receive more under S. 608 than under S. 4.
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For a complete explanation of the methodology used to
redistribute funds so that all jurisdictions receive the
required minimum, and the total authorization is not
exceeded, see CRS report RL33859, Fiscal Year 2007 Homeland
Security Grant Program, H.R. 1 and S. 4: Description and
Analysis, by Shawn Reese and Steven Maguire.
If you have any questions about this memorandum, please
call me on extension 7-7841 or send an e-mail to
[email protected].
TABLE 1.--COMPARISON OF S. 608, H.R. 1, AND S. 4 ASSUMING A $913,180,500 AUTHORIZATION FOR SHSGP AND LETPP
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Estimated post-adjustment allocations
FY2006 share ------------------------------------------
Jurisdiction of risk and S. 4 as S. 608* less
effectiveness S. 608* H.R. 1 amended Feb. S. 4
(Percent) 15, 2007
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Alabama................................ 1.37 $12,319,320 $12,173,119 $11,988,972 $330,348
Alaska................................. 0.15 2,282,951 4,109,312 4,109,312 (1,826,361)
Arizona................................ 1.48 13,336,170 13,232,207 12,961,248 374,922
Arkansas............................... 0.19 2,282,951 2,282,951 4,109,312 (1,826,361)
California............................. 15.18 136,342,240 134,446,429 130,575,288 5,766,952
Colorado............................... 1.61 14,533,429 14,354,975 14,106,024 427,405
Connecticut............................ 1.13 10,154,413 10,039,748 9,918,964 235,449
Delaware............................... 0.60 5,414,579 5,368,960 5,386,903 27,676
D.C.................................... 0.10 2,282,951 2,282,951 4,109,312 (1,826,361)
Florida................................ 6.82 61,308,537 60,448,703 58,830,723 2,477,814
Georgia................................ 3.28 29,474,566 29,078,462 28,392,210 1,082,356
Hawaii................................. 0.17 2,282,951 2,282,951 4,109,312 (1,826,361)
Idaho.................................. 0.86 7,776,296 7,753,324 7,645,093 131,203
Illinois............................... 5.56 49,959,177 49,264,671 47,978,868 1,980,309
Indiana................................ 1.66 14,910,648 14,726,698 14,466,707 443,941
Iowa................................... 1.12 10,121,611 10,007,425 9,887,601 234,010
Kansas................................. 1.23 11,056,458 10,928,653 10,781,467 274,991
Kentucky............................... 1.46 13,139,360 12,981,213 12,773,065 366,295
Louisiana.............................. 2.54 22,865,040 22,565,218 22,072,415 792,625
Maine.................................. 0.14 2,282,951 4,109,312 4,109,312 (1,826,361)
Maryland............................... 1.31 11,827,296 11,688,262 11,518,515 308,781
Massachusetts.......................... 2.76 24,816,737 24,488,484 23,938,558 878,179
Michigan............................... 3.69 33,164,749 32,771,939 31,920,631 1,244,118
Minnesota.............................. 0.26 2,396,830 4,109,312 4,109,312 (1,712,482)
Mississippi............................ 0.22 2,282,951 2,282,951 4,109,312 (1,826,361)
Missouri............................... 3.06 27,506,469 27,139,035 26,510,385 996,084
Montana................................ 0.17 2,282,951 4,109,312 4,109,312 (1,826,361)
Nebraska............................... 1.08 9,711,591 9,603,377 9,495,554 216,037
Nevada................................. 1.00 8,973,555 8,876,092 8,789,870 183,685
New Hampshire.......................... 0.11 2,282,951 4,109,312 4,109,312 (1,826,361)
New Jersey............................. 1.80 16,222,713 16,019,650 15,721,257 501,456
New Mexico............................. 0.18 2,282,951 4,109,312 4,109,312 (1,826,361)
New York............................... 8.52 76,512,088 75,487,831 73,367,819 3,144,269
North Carolina......................... 2.47 22,176,206 21,886,418 21,413,777 762,429
North Dakota........................... 0.69 6,234,620 6,234,105 6,170,997 63,623
Ohio................................... 2.73 24,587,125 24,319,267 23,719,012 868,113
Oklahoma............................... 1.43 12,844,146 12,690,299 12,490,791 353,355
Oregon................................. 0.23 2,282,951 2,282,951 4,109,312 (1,826,361)
Pennsylvania........................... 3.11 27,949,291 27,632,456 26,933,796 1,015,495
Rhode Island........................... 0.11 2,282,951 2,282,951 4,109,312 (1,826,361)
South Carolina......................... 1.33 12,007,705 11,866,043 11,691,016 316,689
South Dakota........................... 0.13 2,282,951 2,282,951 4,109,312 (1,826,361)
Tennessee.............................. 0.26 2,364,029 2,362,848 4,109,312 (1,745,283)
Texas.................................. 8.05 72,264,278 71,301,900 69,306,214 2,958,064
Utah................................... 0.17 2,282,951 2,282,951 4,109,312 (1,826,361)
Vermont................................ 0.71 6,431,429 6,428,048 6,359,179 72,250
Virginia............................... 1.50 13,516,579 13,352,937 13,133,748 382,831
Washington............................. 2.77 24,882,340 24,610,182 24,001,285 881,055
West Virginia.......................... 1.14 10,269,219 10,152,882 10,028,738 240,481
Wisconsin.............................. 1.50 13,483,777 13,377,664 13,102,384 381,393
Wyoming................................ 0.12 2,282,951 2,282,951 4,109,312 (1,826,361)
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U.S.............................. 99.24 904,815,934 904,861,958 903,128,069 1,687,865
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Puerto Rico............................ 0.11 2,282,951 2,282,951 4,109,312 (1,826,361)
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U.S. & P.R....................... 99.35 907,098,886 907,144,910 907,237,381 (138,495)
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Virgin Islands......................... 0.07 730,544 730,544 730,544 0
Am. Samoa.............................. 0.43 3,889,981 3,843,957 3,751,486 138,495
Guam................................... 0.07 730,544 730,544 730,544 0
N. M. Islands.......................... 0.07 730,544 730,544 730,544 0
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All Areas Total.................. 100.00 913,180,500 913,180,500 913,180,500 0
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Source: Estimates calculated by CRS. Caveat: for illustrative purposes only; other estimating methods based on
different assumptions would yield different results.
Note: *8. 608, as introduced, includes only the SHSGP funds for purposes of calculating a minimum. For
comparative purposes, the calculations in this table assume S. 608 would include LETPP in the minimum when
allocating an authorized amount of $913,180,500 to each state, territory, and other insular area.
Mrs. FEINSTEIN. As I say, I understand there is a basic conflict here
between small States and big States. There is a basic conflict between
those who think the money should be spread around and those who believe
this money should be used based on risk, vulnerability, and threat. I
am in the latter. If the big threat is in Vermont, I am all for the
money going to Vermont. I have no problem with that.
I look at the intelligence and I see the threats as they come in and
I think the agencies that make the decisions should send the money
based on their analysis of the intelligence and the threats.
I do wish to at least give my source, which is the Congressional
Research Service, for these numbers which show 35 States as
beneficiaries.
I know Senator Lautenberg should be here momentarily. I reserve the
remainder of my time, and I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Salazar). Who yields time?
Ms. COLLINS. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that a letter
from the National Criminal Justice Association, in support of the
formulas in the underlying bill, be printed in the Record.
There being no objection, the material was ordered to be
printed in the Record, as follows:
National Criminal
Justice Association,
Washington, DC, March 2, 2007.
Hon. Joseph Lieberman,
U.S. Senate,
Washington, DC.
Hon. Susan Collins,
U.S. Senate,
Washington, DC.
Dear Senators Lieberman and Collins: On behalf of the
National Criminal Justice Association (NCJA), I write to
express our support for a number of important provisions in
the Improving America's Security by Implementing Unfinished
Recommendations of the 9/11 Commission Act of 2007, or S. 4.
NCJA members administer justice assistance grant funding in
the states and tribal nations, and state and local criminal
justice practitioners from all parts of the criminal and
juvenile justice systems. In addition, NCJA provides direct
technical assistance
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and training to state and local homeland security grant
administrators for all U.S. states and territories.
First, thank you for maintaining the Law Enforcement
Terrorism Prevention Program (LETPP) in your bill. The LETPP
provides needed support to public safety agencies across the
country for terrorism prevention, training and information
sharing. As a direct result of the LETPP funding over the
past several years, state and local law enforcement agencies
have become stronger partners with other homeland security
disciplines in the effort to prevent, not just respond to, a
terror attack. In addition, the LETPP provides invaluable
financial assistance to our state and local law enforcement
partners as they address the country's homeland security
priorities outlined in the National Preparedness Goal. One of
the most successful initiatives undertaken by state and local
first responders has been the all-source, Intelligence Fusion
Centers, funded primarily through the LETPP program. Clearly
the LETPP has been a tremendous mechanism by which state and
local public safety programs have been built to address the
new requirements for all-hazards and terrorism prevention and
response.
Second, we commend the Committee's creation of an Office
for the Prevention of Terrorism. As described in the bill,
this new office would be a useful point of coordination and
support for law enforcement within the Department of Homeland
Security. Coordination and information sharing among the
federal, state and local law enforcement and public safety
agencies is critically important. This new office would serve
as a point of liaison and as an advocate for prevention and
law enforcement activities, thereby increasing coordination,
focusing funding and, ultimately, increasing the safety of
our citizens.
Third, we ask for your continued support for a minimum
guarantee for State Homeland Security Grant Program (SHSGP)
funds. The primary goals of any national homeland security
strategy should be to: increase preparedness in our largest
urban areas; protect our targets of international
significance; and, to increase overall national preparedness.
An attack or disruption of our power or water or food supply
could occur anywhere. Core foundations of our economy could
be crippled from outside one of our major urban areas. States
are working hard to protect assets of national importance
within their borders and the safety of all our citizens. Only
by continuing a fair, balanced and substantial state minimum
guarantee can we be assured that all states reach a threshold
of preparedness under a national preparedness plan.
We thank you for your work on this important piece of
legislation.
Sincerely,
Cabell Cropper,
Executive Director.
Ms. COLLINS. Mr. President, I wish to make sure my colleagues
recognize that under the amendment offered by my distinguished
colleague and friend from California, that States would have absolutely
no guarantee at all of minimum funding under the Law Enforcement
Terrorist and Prevention Program. This is a very important program. It
has provided needed support to public safety agencies across the
country for terrorism prevention, training, and information sharing. As
the direct result of the LETPP funding over the past several years,
State and local law enforcement agencies have become strong partners
with homeland security.
I wish to point out one of the most important uses of funds under
this program has been to establish with State and local first
responders all-source intelligence fusion centers that have been funded
primarily through the LETPP program. Clearly, it has been a very
successful program, and one of my concerns about the amendment offered
by my friend from California is she eliminates the minimum under this
program. That means that potentially a State could receive no funding
at all under this program.
I thank the Chair.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Who yields time?
The time will be charged equally to all controlling time.
Mr. LIEBERMAN. Mr. President, I will proceed and yield myself time.
The first two amendments, one offered by the Senator from California
and the second offered by the Senator from Illinois, are an attempt to
get more funding for the large States at the expense of the smaller
States, and there is a myth around about the fact that the larger
States are not being adequately funded. The fact is that under the
fiscal year 2006 homeland security grant funding, five States--
California, Texas, New York, Florida, and Illinois--received 42 percent
of the antiterrorism funds, while 20 States received less than 12
percent cumulatively.
California received in fiscal year 2006 as much money as the 22
States at the bottom in funding.
I wish to thank my staff members for their humility in holding up
that chart.
What I am saying is, somebody said the money is being spread across
the country like peanut butter. No way. There is a lot of peanut butter
and jelly going to the larger States. They deserve it, but they would,
by these two amendments, the Feinstein and Obama amendments, would take
even more money, as the Senator from Vermont quite movingly
demonstrated in his rollcall of the losing States. Why do the smaller
States deserve something? Because that is the nature of the enemy.
Everybody is vulnerable to this terrorist enemy to some degree. We are
not making this up.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent, since we yielded 6 or 7
minutes to the Intelligence chairman and vice chairman, to add 4
minutes to the time I was allocated under the initial proposal. It may
be that we will still be able to vote at 5:30.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
Mr. LAUTENBERG. Reserving the right to object. The Senator from
California, I believe, still has time remaining.
Mr. LIEBERMAN. Yes, indeed. This will not interfere with the time she
has reserved for the Senator from New Jersey.
Mr. LAUTENBERG. All right. The Senator from California is giving her
time to me, so I wanted to be sure that time remains.
Mr. LIEBERMAN. Yes, indeed.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. LIEBERMAN. Here is the point. We know the terrorists on 9/11
struck New York, Washington, and Washington was probably intended
again--the plane went down in Pennsylvania. But what was the single
most devastating terrorist attack in the United States before 9/11? It
was the bomb at the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, but
Oklahoma City would not benefit from these amendments from the Senators
from California and Illinois.
Let's go around the world. In 2001, a plot was uncovered by
intelligence agencies to attack an American school in Singapore. In
2002, in Bali, Indonesia, terrorists targeted a discotheque. In 2003,
terrorists struck a residential compound in Riyahd. In 2004, terrorists
targeted a school in Beslan. In October 2004, computer disks were
discovered in Iraq at a known insurgent's home containing detailed
floor layouts and evacuation routes for plans in various States in the
United States of America.
This is the nature of the enemy. This is an inhumane but thinking
enemy. They will strike where they determine we are most vulnerable.
That is why we think, as a matter of elemental fairness but also sound
and strong homeland security, that most of the money ought to go to the
large States with the most visible, potential terrorist targets, but
that some minimal amount ought to go to all States.
Senator Leahy would do that beyond what the bill does. Senator
Feinstein and Senator Obama would reduce the amount most of the States
would get under this proposal from what the committee bill recommends.
That is why I strongly oppose the first two amendments that will come
before us at around 5:30.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from New Jersey.
Mr. LAUTENBERG. Mr. President, I come to the floor to support the
Feinstein-Cornyn amendment and tell you I must say I do not get it. We
are talking now about the security of our country. We are talking about
whether we put the fences up around the most susceptible targets or
whether we put fences, protective fences, around places in the country
where there is no threat.
To every place there is a threat. No matter where you go, you can see
a place that can be a threat. But where the disease is, that is what
the hospital is there for. Take those who have the potential for the
disease. If you use an analogy, you don't start putting the antidote in
places where the likelihood of catching this disease is not very
strong.
We are looking at this amendment and this bill. Thirty-four States,
besides New Jersey, will have resources
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taken away. In my State, the FBI has determined the 2-mile stretch
between the airport, Newark-Liberty International Airport and Port
Newark, is America's most at-risk area for a terrorist attack. We know
that in a moment of an orange alert the Prudential Building in Newark
has been a specific target of terrorists. In fact, in the summer of
2004 only three specific areas were identified as potential targets
under the orange alert: northern New Jersey, New York, and Washington,
DC. Yet I have listened to my colleagues, and it disturbs me that they
trivialize this purchase of some trucks in New Jersey. If those trucks
were used to take debris out of an exploded or damaged area, they would
be pretty valuable trucks. If there were snow on the ground when an
attack took place, it would be absolutely essential that we have those
trucks.
We were struck and 700 people from New Jersey died, as did 2,400
others from other places around the area. We know where the heat is
when it gets hot. We ought not be dealing out pork. This is not a
restaurant. We are not talking about pork. We are not talking about
putting money out there in case there is an attack here or there. We
know where the attacks take place. They take place in places with high
density populations such as London or Spain. We know New Jersey is at
risk. New York is at risk. We know other major cities are at risk. They
have been identified, and homeland security funds to fight terrorism
should go to those places.
Recommendation 25 of the 9/11 Commission report said homeland
security grants should be distributed based solely on risk. We are
having a debate here, saying no, the fact that there are risks should
not count because everybody is at risk. Everybody is at risk but not at
the same degree.
I hope our colleagues will respond in a way that is recommended by
the 9/11 Commission, supported by Secretary Chertoff of the Department
of Homeland Security, and logic. Logic is on this side.
I encourage my colleagues to embrace a risk-based approach and
support the Feinstein-Cornyn-Lautenberg amendment.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Who yields time?
Mr. LEAHY. Mr. President, how much time is left to the proponents of
the various amendments?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Connecticut has 2 minutes
remaining, the senior Senator from Vermont has 2\1/2\ minutes
remaining, and the junior Senator from Illinois has 13 minutes
remaining.
Mr. LEAHY. I thought we were voting at 5:30. That time has slipped or
is that correct?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator is correct.
Mr. LEAHY. Mr. President, using part of my remaining time, again I
would tell my friends, my dear friend, the senior Senator from New
Jersey and others, we have set aside nearly 60 percent of these funds
for special purposes, high-threat areas, areas that we determine need
that money. We are talking about the all-State minimum going to what is
remaining.
Again, I hope someone is listening to this debate. You can vote for
these next two amendments and a few States will gain from them, but if
you vote for these next two amendments, here are the States that will
lose or at best break even: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas,
Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Hawaii, Idaho,
Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Minnesota,
Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New
Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma--Mr. President, I haven't used my 13
minutes yet, have I, because I still have a lot of States to name
here----
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator has 11 minutes.
Mr. LEAHY. I may need it--Oregon, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South
Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia, Wisconsin,
and Wyoming.
Without sounding like a poor rendition of Johnny Cash's song ``I Have
Been Everywhere, Man''--one of my favorites, I might say; he actually
mentions Brattleboro, VT. If you vote for my amendment, which will be
the third one, here are the States that do not lose or break even.
These are the States that will be protected under current funding:
Alabama, Alaska--these are States I hope will support the amendment of
the Senator from Vermont, because it is to their State's benefit:
Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, District of
Columbia, Hawaii, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine,
Maryland, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New
Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon,
Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont,
Virginia, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming--I realize the District of
Columbia can't vote, but if they could, they would vote with us.
Mr. President, how much time is remaining to the Senator from Vermont
or is any time remaining?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The time of the Senator has expired.
Who yields time?
The Senator from Nevada.
Amendment No. 363
Mr. ENSIGN. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent to be allowed to
send an amendment to the desk, so it becomes pending. I already cleared
it with both the ranking member and the chairman.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, the pending amendment is
set aside.
The clerk will report.
The legislative clerk read as follows:
The Senator from Nevada [Mr. Ensign] proposes an amendment
numbered 363 to amendment No. 275.
Mr. ENSIGN. I ask unanimous consent the reading of the amendment be
dispensed with.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
The amendment is as follows:
(Purpose: To establish a Law Enforcement Assistance Force in the
Department of Homeland Security to facilitate the contributions of
retired law enforcement officers during major disasters)
On page 389, after line 13, add the following:
SEC. 15__. LAW ENFORCEMENT ASSISTANCE FORCE.
(a) Establishment.--The Secretary shall establish a Law
Enforcement Assistance Force to facilitate the contributions
of retired law enforcement officers and agents during major
disasters.
(b) Eligible Participants.--An individual may participate
in the Law Enforcement Assistance Force if that individual--
(1) has experience working as an officer or agent for a
public law enforcement agency and left that agency in good
standing;
(2) holds current certifications for firearms, first aid,
and such other skills determined necessary by the Secretary;
(3) submits to the Secretary an application, at such time,
in such manner, and accompanied by such information as the
Secretary may reasonably require, that authorizes the
Secretary to review the law enforcement service record of
that individual; and
(4) meets such other qualifications as the Secretary may
require.
(c) Liability; Supervision.--Each eligible participant
shall--
(1) be protected from civil liability to the same extent as
employees of the Department; and
(2) upon acceptance of an assignment under this section--
(A) be detailed to a Federal, State, or local government
law enforcement agency;
(B) work under the direct supervision of an officer or
agent of that agency; and
(C) notwithstanding any State or local law requiring
specific qualifications for law enforcement officers, be
deputized to perform the duties of a law enforcement officer.
(d) Mobilization.--
(1) In general.--In the event of a major disaster, the
Secretary, after consultation with appropriate Federal,
State, and local government law enforcement agencies, may
request eligible participants to volunteer to assist the
efforts of those agencies responding to such emergency and
assign each willing participant to a specific law enforcement
agency.
(2) Acceptance.--If the eligible participant accepts an
assignment under this subsection, that eligible participant
shall agree to remain in such assignment for a period equal
to not less than the shorter of--
(A) the period during which the law enforcement agency
needs the services of such participant;
(B) 30 days; or
(C) such other period of time agreed to between the
Secretary and the eligible participant.
(3) Refusal.--An eligible participant may refuse an
assignment under this subsection without any adverse
consequences.
(e) Expenses.--
(1) In general.--Each eligible participant shall be allowed
travel expenses, including per diem in lieu of subsistence,
at rates authorized for employees of agencies under
subchapter I of chapter 57 of title 5, United
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States Code, while carrying out an assignment under
subsection (d).
(2) Source of funds.--Expenses incurred under paragraph (1)
shall be paid from amounts appropriated to the Federal
Emergency Management Agency.
(f) Termination of Assistance.--The availability of
eligible participants of the Law Enforcement Assistance Force
shall continue for a period equal to the shorter of--
(1) the period of the major disaster; or
(2) 1 year.
(g) Definitions.--In this section--
(1) the term ``eligible participant'' means an individual
participating in the Law Enforcement Assistance Force;
(2) the term ``Law Enforcement Assistance Force'' means the
Law Enforcement Assistance Force established under subsection
(a); and
(3) the term ``major disaster'' has the meaning given that
term in section 102 of the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief
and Emergency Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 5122).
(h) Authorization of Appropriations.--There are authorized
to be appropriated such sums as may be necessary to carry out
this section.
Mr. ENSIGN. I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Connecticut is recognized.
Amendment No. 335
Mr. LIEBERMAN. Mr. President, we have a few moments before the vote
will go off. I gather Senator Obama is going to yield back the time
remaining to him. I say to my friends, the committee bill reported out
on a bipartisan vote, 16 to 0, with one abstention, has a balanced
formula in it that overall would increase homeland security funding to
all States. We recognize with respect, and I think a sense of reality,
that all of the States and all of the people of the United States are
vulnerable in the war against terrorism, and there ought to be some
minimum amount for our first responders at each State level.
The two amendments we are going to vote on, therefore, I oppose,
because they would alter the formula in the bill. Under the Feinstein
amendment, 34 States lose homeland security funding as compared to the
formula in the bill. I repeat, we understand there are, based on
subjective risk assessments, visible targets that appear particularly
in larger States that one might say were probably more likely to be
targets of terrorists. We acknowledge that. Our formulas give most of
the money to these areas.
I repeat a number that struck me. In this fiscal year, 42 percent of
the homeland security grant funding goes to 5 States: California,
Texas, New York, Florida, and Illinois. It should go to these states.
But I do not think, insofar as the first two amendments that are
sponsored by colleagues from California and Illinois, they should want
more of the money, and take it from 34 States--in the case of the first
amendment by Senator Feinstein from California; that they should take
from the other States which have needs as well.
This is a balanced formula in the underlying bill that gives the
overwhelming amount of money out to the States based on risk, but says
each State deserves some minimum because of the nature of the threat we
face.
The first amendment will be the one offered by the Senator from
California. I urge my colleagues to oppose that amendment.
May I ask the Chair, has all time been used up except for the time of
the Senator from Illinois?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator is correct.
Mr. LIEBERMAN. I understand through the staff of the Senator from
Illinois that he is prepared to yield back his time.
Mr. President, I think, consistent with the spirit, if not the exact
letter, of the unanimous consent we agreed to, there should be a minute
given to the Senator from California in support of the amendment, and
perhaps a minute to my ranking member in opposition.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
The Senator from California is recognized.
Mrs. FEINSTEIN. Mr. President, the point of this amendment is to
produce a bill that, as nearly as possible, mirrors the recommendations
of the 9/11 Commission. Those recommendations were clear and distinct.
Money should go to communities based on risk, threat, and
vulnerability. This should not be a revenue-sharing program. Yes, the
big States have more infrastructure, more highrises, more tunnels, more
subways--the kinds of things that are attractive to terrorists. If that
is in fact the case, as judged not by us but by the experts, then that
money should be able to go where there is risk, threat, and
vulnerability.
That is all this amendment does. We did not pull our figures out of
the clear blue that concluded that 35 States are benefitted. These are
the products of the Congressional Research Service analysis. We sent
them the facts, and what they say is, assuming a $913 million
authorization for the State Homeland Security Grant Program and the Law
Enforcement Terrorist Program, this would be the result.
You cannot say whether someone is going to get a grant, but these are
their nearest computations of who would benefit on that list. Yes, some
States do lose; there is no question.
Please vote ``yes'' on this amendment.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Maine.
Ms. COLLINS. Mr. President, this amendment is virtually identical to
a proposal we voted on last July during the Homeland Security
appropriations bill. In fact, we have repeatedly voted on this formula
issue. We need to bring all States up to a certain baseline level of
preparedness. That does not mean we do not figure in the risk; we do.
Indeed, under our bill 95 percent of the State Homeland Security Grant
Program funds and 100 percent of the Urban Area Security Initiative
funding will be allocated based on risk.
The Senator's analysis does not look at the impact she would have on
all four of the programs included in our bill, yet her amendment does
affect all four, and that is the reason our analysis is different.
We cannot assume a precise calculation of risk. A Federal building in
Oklahoma City was not an obvious target for a terrorist bombing, and
yet we know the tragic attack that occurred in that city.
Rural flight schools were not obvious training grounds for
terrorists, and yet we know that terrorists trained in Norman, OK.
Portland, ME, was not an obvious departure point for the terrorist
pilots as they began their journey of death and destruction on
September 11, and that is exactly what occurred.
My point is that terrorists can and do shelter, train, recruit, plan,
prepare, and attack in unlikely places. That is one reason our bill
puts so much emphasis on prevention, an emphasis that would be lost in
the Senator's amendment.
I urge opposition to the amendment.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. All time is expired.
The question is on agreeing to the Feinstein amendment No. 335.
Mr. LIEBERMAN. Mr. President, I move to table the Feinstein amendment
No. 335 and ask for the yeas and nays.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there a sufficient second?
There appears to be a sufficient second.
The clerk will call the roll.
The assistant legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. DURBIN. I announce that the Senator from South Dakota (Mr.
Johnson) is necessarily absent.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Are there any other Senators in the Chamber
desiring to vote?
The result was announced--yeas 56, nays 43, as follows:
[Rollcall Vote No. 61 Leg.]
YEAS--56
Akaka
Alexander
Baucus
Bayh
Bennett
Biden
Bingaman
Bond
Brownback
Bunning
Byrd
Carper
Cochran
Coleman
Collins
Conrad
Corker
Craig
Crapo
Dodd
Domenici
Dorgan
Ensign
Enzi
Feingold
Grassley
Hagel
Harkin
Hatch
Inouye
Klobuchar
Kohl
Leahy
Lieberman
Lincoln
Lott
Lugar
McConnell
Murkowski
Nelson (NE)
Pryor
Reed
Roberts
Rockefeller
Salazar
Sanders
Sessions
Shelby
Snowe
Stevens
Sununu
Tester
Thomas
Thune
Whitehouse
Wyden
NAYS--43
Allard
Boxer
Brown
Burr
Cantwell
Cardin
Casey
Chambliss
Clinton
Coburn
Cornyn
DeMint
Dole
Durbin
Feinstein
Graham
Gregg
Hutchison
Inhofe
Isakson
Kennedy
Kerry
Kyl
Landrieu
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Lautenberg
Levin
Martinez
McCain
McCaskill
Menendez
Mikulski
Murray
Nelson (FL)
Obama
Reid
Schumer
Smith
Specter
Stabenow
Vitter
Voinovich
Warner
Webb
NOT VOTING--1
Johnson
The motion was agreed to.
Mr. LIEBERMAN. Mr. President, I move to reconsider the vote.
Mr. LEAHY. Mr. President, I move to lay that motion on the table.
The motion to lay on the table was agreed to.
Amendment No. 338
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, there will now be 2 minutes
of debate equally divided on Obama amendment No. 338.
The Senator from Illinois is recognized.
Mr. OBAMA. Mr. President, this amendment aims at moving us closer to
a risk-based allocation of resources. It takes us a step closer to the
9/11 Commission report. I want to let everyone know that 34 States
actually potentially do better under this amendment. Six States are
held harmless, and there are some States that would get less money. But
keep in mind the whole goal of this particular program is to ensure
that money is allocated on the basis of risk. It would still be .25
percent of the money allocated to every State. It would still be a
minimum, and there would still be money through other programs that
would ensure that money is allocated to States for all-hazard purposes.
So I strongly urge all in this Chamber to take a look at this bill
and look at the chart that we passed out. There have been arguments
from my good friend, the Senator from Connecticut, as well as the
Senator from Maine, suggesting that somehow States get less money. That
is only the baseline; it does not include the money that would be
allocated on the basis of risk.
I urge a ``no'' vote on this motion to table.
Mr. LIEBERMAN. Mr. President, I rise to oppose the amendment by the
Senator from Illinois, and in that sense to support the very balanced
formula in our underlying bill which gives most of the money in
homeland security grant funding based on risk but acknowledges that
every State faces the threat of terrorism and therefore deserves some
minimum amount of funding. This amendment essentially raises the same
points that the amendment offered by the Senator from California did,
which my colleagues were just good enough to table. The amendment of
the Senator from Illinois would leave 32 of our States with less
guaranteed funding than the underlying bill, S. 4.
I urge my colleagues to support the committee bill and oppose this
amendment.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the next two votes be 10-
minute votes as opposed to 15.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Menendez). Is there objection? Without
objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. LIEBERMAN. Mr. President, I now move to table the amendment
offered by the Senator from Illinois and ask for the yeas and nays.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there a sufficient second? There is a
sufficient second.
The question is on agreeing to the motion.
The clerk will call the roll.
The bill clerk called the roll.
Mr. DURBIN. I announce that the Senator from South Dakota (Mr.
Johnson) is necessarily absent.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Are there any other Senators in the Chamber
desiring to vote?
The result was announced--yeas 59, nays 40, as follows:
[Rollcall Vote No. 62 Leg.]
YEAS--59
Akaka
Alexander
Allard
Baucus
Bayh
Bennett
Biden
Bond
Brownback
Bunning
Byrd
Carper
Chambliss
Coburn
Cochran
Coleman
Collins
Corker
Craig
Crapo
DeMint
Dodd
Dole
Ensign
Enzi
Graham
Grassley
Hagel
Harkin
Hatch
Inhofe
Inouye
Isakson
Klobuchar
Kohl
Leahy
Lieberman
Lincoln
Lott
Lugar
McConnell
Murkowski
Nelson (NE)
Pryor
Reed
Reid
Roberts
Salazar
Sanders
Sessions
Shelby
Snowe
Stevens
Sununu
Tester
Thomas
Thune
Whitehouse
Wyden
NAYS--40
Bingaman
Boxer
Brown
Burr
Cantwell
Cardin
Casey
Clinton
Conrad
Cornyn
Domenici
Dorgan
Durbin
Feingold
Feinstein
Gregg
Hutchison
Kennedy
Kerry
Kyl
Landrieu
Lautenberg
Levin
Martinez
McCain
McCaskill
Menendez
Mikulski
Murray
Nelson (FL)
Obama
Rockefeller
Schumer
Smith
Specter
Stabenow
Vitter
Voinovich
Warner
Webb
NOT VOTING--1
Johnson
The motion was agreed to.
Mr. LIEBERMAN. I move to reconsider the vote.
Ms. COLLINS. I move to lay that motion on the table.
The motion to lay on the table was agreed to.
Amendment No. 333
The PRESIDING OFFICER. There is now 2 minutes of debate equally
divided on the Leahy amendment No. 333. The Senator from Vermont.
Mr. LEAHY. Mr. President, this is the Leahy-Thomas amendment. The
Senate has rejected the last two amendments. This is the amendment that
protects small and medium States. The Leahy-Thomas amendment would
protect Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut,
Delaware, the District of Columbia, Hawaii, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa,
Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana,
Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Dakota,
Oklahoma, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota,
Tennessee, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia, Wisconsin, and
Wyoming.
I am not suggesting people should vote from a parochial interest, but
I want my colleagues to know the vast majority of States--small and
medium--in this country would be protected by the Leahy-Thomas
amendment.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Who yields time?
Mr. THOMAS. Mr. President, I think this is a very equitable and
timely distribution of these funds. I urge my colleagues to support
this amendment.
Mr. LEAHY. I ask for the yeas and nays.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there a sufficient second?
There is a sufficient second.
The question is on agreeing to amendment No. 333. The clerk will call
the roll.
The assistant legislative clerk called the roll.
Mr. DURBIN. I announce that the Senator from South Dakota (Mr.
Johnson) is necessarily absent.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Are there any other Senators in the Chamber
desiring to vote?
The result was announced--yeas 49, nays 50, as follows:
[Rollcall Vote No. 63 Leg.]
YEAS--49
Akaka
Baucus
Bayh
Bennett
Biden
Bingaman
Brownback
Byrd
Carper
Cochran
Coleman
Conrad
Craig
Crapo
Dodd
Dorgan
Enzi
Feingold
Grassley
Hagel
Harkin
Hatch
Inouye
Klobuchar
Kohl
Leahy
Lincoln
Lott
Lugar
McConnell
Murkowski
Nelson (NE)
Pryor
Reed
Reid
Roberts
Rockefeller
Salazar
Sanders
Sessions
Shelby
Smith
Specter
Stevens
Tester
Thomas
Thune
Whitehouse
Wyden
NAYS--50
Alexander
Allard
Bond
Boxer
Brown
Bunning
Burr
Cantwell
Cardin
Casey
Chambliss
Clinton
Coburn
Collins
Corker
Cornyn
DeMint
Dole
Domenici
Durbin
Ensign
Feinstein
Graham
Gregg
Hutchison
Inhofe
Isakson
Kennedy
Kerry
Kyl
Landrieu
Lautenberg
Levin
Lieberman
Martinez
McCain
McCaskill
Menendez
Mikulski
Murray
Nelson (FL)
Obama
Schumer
Snowe
Stabenow
Sununu
Vitter
Voinovich
Warner
Webb
NOT VOTING--1
Johnson
The amendment (No. 333) was rejected.
Mr. REID. Mr. President, I move to reconsider the vote.
Mr. LEAHY. I move to lay that motion on the table.
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The motion to lay on the table was agreed to.
Mr. REID. Mr. President, that was the last vote for tonight. I have
been in contact with the two managers of the bill and the distinguished
Republican leader, and we are trying to work out some votes in the
morning prior to King Abdullah. What we would like to do is have a vote
on McCaskill and Collins, and then we also have some nongermane
amendments we have been given by the minority that they would like to
dispose of, and we have a couple of nongermane amendments on this side
we would like to dispose of. The staff, during that hour or two, will
work to see if we can come up with some kind of agreement toward
completion of this bill.
I want all Senators to know, as I announced at the Democratic caucus
today, that I am going to file cloture tomorrow on this bill. I hope we
can have a good, full day of trying to complete this bill, and I also
hope we can work something out where we may not have to have a cloture
vote on Friday. If we do, we have to finish this bill this week. We
could have some votes late into Friday. Everyone should be put on
notice now that it may be necessary to have some Friday votes.
Mr. COBURN. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that I be
recognized, following the Senator from Arizona for 3 minutes and the
Senator from Connecticut for 5 minutes, for such time as I might
consume on an amendment on this bill.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
Mr. AKAKA. Mr. President, I will not object, but I would like to
receive the President's assurance that this matter will continue to be
debated tomorrow.
Mr. COBURN. I have no problem agreeing to debate this again tomorrow.
Mr. AKAKA. No objection.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Amendment No. 357, As Modified
Mr. KYL. Mr. President, first I have a modification of my amendment
No. 357 I would like to send to the desk. That amendment has already
been offered.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The amendment is so modified.
The amendment, as modified, is as follows:
At page 174, strike line 1 and all that follows through
page 175, line 18, and insert the following:
``(1) Data-mining.--The term ``data-mining'' means a query
or search or other analysis of one or more electronic
databases, where--
(A) a department or agency of the Federal Government is
conducting the query or search or other analysis to find a
pattern indicating terrorist or other criminal activity on
the part of any individual or individuals;
(B) the search does not use personal identifiers of a
specific individual or does not utilize inputs that appear on
their face to identify or be associated with a specified
individual to acquire information, to retrieve information
from the database or databases; and
(C) at least one of the databases was obtained from or
remains under the control of a non-Federal entity, or the
information was acquired initially by another department or
agency of the Federal Government for purposes other than
intelligence or law enforcement.
(2) Database.--The term ``database'' does not include
telephone directories, news reporting, information publicly
available via the Internet or available by any other means to
any member of the public, any databases maintained, operated,
or controlled by a State, local, or tribal government (such
as a State motor vehicle database), or databases of judicial
and administrative opinions.
(c) Reports on Data Mining Activities by Federal
Agencies.--
(1) Requirement for report.--The head of each department or
agency of the Federal Government that is engaged in any
activity to use or develop data mining shall submit a report
to Congress on all such activities of the department or
agency under the jurisdiction of that official. The report
shall be made available to the public, except for a
classified annex described paragraph (2)(H).
(2) Content of report.--Each report submitted under
paragraph (1) shall include, for each activity to use or
develop data mining, the following information:
(A) A thorough description of the data mining activity, its
goals, and, where appropriate, the target dates for the
deployment of the data mining activity.
(B) A thorough description, without revealing existing
patents, proprietary business processes, trade secrets, and
intelligence sources and methods, of the data mining
technology that is being used or will be used, including the
basis for determining whether a particular pattern or anomaly
is indicative of terrorist or criminal activity.''
Amendment No. 317
Mr. KYL. Mr. President, at this point I wish to briefly address
another amendment, amendment No. 317, which is already pending. This is
an amendment which would prohibit rewarding families of suicide bombers
for such attacks and stiffen penalties for other terrorist crimes. This
is one we can hopefully adopt on a bipartisan basis. It would create
the new offense of aiding the family or associates of a terrorist with
the intent to encourage terrorist acts. It is targeted at those
individuals who give money to the families of suicide bombers after
such bombings. The amendment would make it a Federal offense to do so
if the act can be connected to the United States and if the defendant
acted with the intent to facilitate, reward, or encourage international
acts of terrorism.
Let me offer an example of why this amendment is necessary. In August
of 2001, a Palestinian suicide bomber attacked a Sbarro pizza parlor in
Jerusalem. Among those killed was an American citizen, Shoshana
Greenbaum, who was a schoolteacher and who was pregnant at the time.
Shortly after this bombing took place, the family of the suicide bomber
was told to go to the Arab Bank. The bomber's family began receiving
monthly payments through an account at that bank and later received a
lump payment of $6,000.
According to press accounts, this is not the only time Arab Bank has
funneled money to the families of suicide bombers. One news account
describes a branch of the bank in the Palestinian territories whose
walls are covered with posters eulogizing suicide bombers.
According to other news accounts, these suicide bombers in the
Palestinian territories are recruited with the promises that their
families will be taken care of financially after the attack. Saudi
charities, the Palestinian Authority, and even Saddam Hussein have
rewarded suicide bombers' families for their acts. According to one
account, Saddam Hussein paid $35 million to terrorists' families during
his time. Obviously, his actions are no longer of concern, but we
should all be deeply concerned about other wealthy individuals and
financial institutions that continue to pay out these rewards. It is
undoubtedly the case that in some instances, these payments make the
difference in whether an individual will commit a suicide bombing.
My amendment will make it a Federal crime, with extraterritorial
jurisdiction in cases that can be linked to U.S. interests, to pay the
families of suicide bombers and other terrorists with the intent to
facilitate terrorist acts. My amendment also makes other improvements
to the antiterrorism laws, primarily by increasing the maximum
penalties for various aspects of the material support offenses, which
already exist in law.
I hope, as I said, my colleagues will view this as an amendment which
we can adopt on a bipartisan basis. It is an important amendment to
ensure that another avenue of terrorism can be shut off. I ask for my
colleagues' affirmative consideration of this amendment No. 317, and I
thank the Senator from Oklahoma for his courtesies extended to me.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Connecticut.
Mr. DODD. Mr. President, let me also address my thanks to our
colleague from Oklahoma. Before I discuss the Banking Committee's
contribution to this important bill, I would like to take a moment to
provide some thoughts on the overall bill--especially the initiatives
pertaining to our Nation's homeland security. Over 5 years after the
tragic events of 9/11 and almost 20 months since the tragic events of
Hurricanes Katrina and Rita, we continue to hear from Governors, county
executives, mayors, first responders, health professionals, and
emergency preparedness officials that our country as a whole remains
unprepared for another manmade or natural disaster. We have heard the
argument, which I support, that Congress needs to do more to support
regional and local efforts to protect Americans.
Overall, I believe this bill takes a critical step forward in
protecting Americans at home from manmade and natural disasters. It
codifies several recommendations made by the 9/11 Commission--seminal
recommendations that, nearly 3 years after being
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issued, have still not been implemented by this White House or the
Congress.
I support the measures in this bill designed to allocate critical
resources based on concrete risk and effectiveness analysis. I also
support the measure in this bill that establishes a minimum base of
funding for all States. We all know how important initiatives like the
State Homeland Security Grant Program and the Law Enforcement Terrorism
Prevention Program are to our States and localities. While I believe
those areas with higher degrees of risk from manmade and natural
disasters should receive adequate resources proportionate to that risk,
I also believe that all areas of our country should receive a base
amount of funding that guarantees the protection of all Americans.
I am going to jump to the section of the legislation over which the
Senate Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs Committee has specific
jurisdiction. The Presiding Officer is a distinguished member of the
committee. He will recall just a few weeks ago we marked up the transit
security bill which is now a part of this legislation.
I thank Senator Richard Shelby, my ranking member on the committee,
former chairman of the committee, for his cooperation, and I thank all
members of the committee. We marked up this piece of the bill now
before the Senate, unanimously. It is very much a reflection of what
the committee did previously in the 109th Congress to deal with
transportation security, and we thought it was an important matter to
raise at the outset.
My compliments to the chairman of the committee for the underlying
legislation, who is responsible for the homeland security issues, and
his colleague from Maine, for the tremendous work they have done on
this bill, and for others who have been involved in it.
I would be remiss if I also didn't commend the distinguished chairman
of the Commerce Committee, Senator Inouye, and his ranking member,
Senator Stevens, for their work, as well as Senator Reid, the majority
leader, for bringing this all together in one package.
It is also important we recognize how important transit security is.
The Presiding Officer and others will recall we had a hearing on this
subject matter and heard from some very interesting witnesses. It is
not all that common that we invite witnesses who are not U.S. citizens
to come and participate in congressional hearings. But given the
tragedies in Madrid and London, we thought it might be worthwhile to
hear from those who manage the transit operations in those two cities
to come and share with us information about those two experiences. I
think their testimony was very helpful in galvanizing the importance of
this issue and the attention of the committee and, we hope, our
colleagues as well.
We learned in those hearings, of course, that transit attacks have
unfortunately been the major source of some of the terrorist activities
over the last number of years. It is no secret that worldwide
terrorists have favored public transit as a target. Transit has been
the single most frequent target of terrorism.
In the decade leading up to 2000, 42 percent of terrorist attacks
worldwide targeted rail systems or buses, according to a study done by
the Brookings Institution. In 2005 they attacked, as I mentioned,
London's rail and bus system killing 52 riders and injuring almost 700
more in what has been called London's bloodiest peacetime attack. In
2004 they attacked Madrid's metro system killing 192 people and leaving
1,500 people injured.
The Banking Committee heard testimony from the leaders of these two
transit systems, as I mentioned. Transit is frequently targeted because
it is tremendously important to any nation's economy. Securing our
transit systems and our transportation networks generally is a
difficult challenge under any circumstances. Every act to increase
security generally potentially limits the specific security needs of a
transit agency. The bill includes grants for security equipment,
evacuation drills, and, most importantly--what we heard from the
witnesses, particularly from Madrid and London--worker training.
Indeed, the bill requires worker training for all systems that receive
security grants. The importance of worker training can be scarcely
overstated. Transit workers are the first line of defense against an
attack and the first to respond to an event of an attack.
Mr. O'Toole, the director of London's transit system said:
You have to invest in your staff and rely on them. You have
to invest in technology, but don't rely on it.
Finally, the bill authorizes funds for the research of new and
existing security technologies and fully authorizes the funding of the
Information Sharing Analysis Center, a valuable tool that provides
transit agencies timely information on active threats against their
systems.
Over the years we have invested heavily in aviation security. In
fact, we have invested about $7.50 per aviation passenger per trip.
About 1.8 million people travel using the aviation system daily in this
country. 14 million people use mass transit systems every workday. We
have invested about $380 million in the security of mass transit
systems. That is about one penny per passenger per trip.
I am not suggesting, nor do we require, that there be an equilibrium
between the security systems of both aviation and mass transit systems.
But our bill does provide an authorization of $3.5 billion to increase
exactly the kind of operations I have described briefly, including the
training issues which are critically important.
We believe with this additional authorization, and we hope an
appropriate appropriation from the responsible committees, that we will
be able to provide some additional security for this critically
important system of our economy.
Again, I am grateful to the members of the committee, as well as my
colleagues here, for their indication of support of this effort. It is
going to be very important to all of us across this country. This is
not limited, obviously, to the east coast or west coast. In fact, now
some of the most urbanized States in the country are Western States
with mass transit systems. It is going to be very important we provide
the kind of support that this provision of the bill does.
Again, my thanks to Senator Shelby, to all members of the committee
who played a very constructive role in crafting this legislation, as
they did in the 109th Congress and, again, to my colleague from
Connecticut and my colleague from Maine for their fine work on this
issue, making this a part of this bill. I urge the adoption of this
section when the full bill is considered.
Again, my thanks to my colleague from Oklahoma for providing some
time.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Oklahoma.
Mr. COBURN. Mr. President, what is the pending amendment?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Kyl amendment is the pending amendment.
Amendment No. 345
Mr. COBURN. I ask unanimous consent that pending amendment be set
aside in consideration of an amendment that has already been called up,
my amendment, No. 345.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. COBURN. This is a pretty straightforward amendment.
I also ask unanimous consent Senator McCain be added as a cosponsor
of this amendment.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. COBURN. One of the first things we found out after 9/11 was a lot
of our emergency workers could not talk to each other. That was one of
the most glaring, obvious defects in our response to emergencies--that
emergency personnel had difficulty, from one group to another, talking
to one another. As a matter of fact, it limited their ability to save
lives.
From the beginning of the 9/11 Commission and from the start, in
2002, that has been addressed in multiple ways. The purpose of this
amendment is to describe what is obviously something that is not good
for us as a nation.
We presently have occurring with the Deficit Reduction Act of 2005 an
electromagnetic spectrum which was sold off and $1 billion reserved
under a program called the Public Safety Interoperability Public
Service Grant Program. That $1 billion was carved off and that is where
we are going to spend it. I don't disagree with that at all.
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What this bill has is another $3.4 billion for interoperable grants
addressing the same problem in a different way than what the other
grant program was. One of our problems as a nation is we have too many
programs that are doing the same thing. They duplicate one another. One
is better and the other is not. Yet we continue sending money down both
holes, not making adjustments as to which gives us the best value for
our money.
What has happened with this money from the Commerce Department,
through a memorandum of understanding, is the administration of this
grant program has been transferred to the Department of Homeland
Security with a little fiat that the Department of Commerce kept $12
million for themselves.
This memorandum of understanding was dated just a few weeks ago,
February 16, and what it did is it gave the administration near
complete administrative control of this grant program, the one from
Commerce, the one from 2005, to the Department of Homeland Security.
This grant program has yet, to date, to receive any applications for
any grants to be administered under the program. This is 2005; 2006 we
did this. Now we are into March of 2007, and we have not received the
first application.
S. 4, being considered on the Senate floor now, as I said, creates
yet another interoperable grant program, the Emergency Communications
and Interoperability Grant Program. This program is also going to be
administered by the Department of Homeland Security. The purpose of
this grant program is to make grants to States for
purchasing interoperable equipment and training personnel, testing on
how and when to use it--similar to the PSIC grant which was mainly for
equipment. This program authorizes $3.3 billion to be authorized in
grants over the first 5 years of the program and indefinite amounts,
``such sums as are necessary,'' after that.
A question comes to mind: How much money would it take for every
first responder in this country to have interoperable communications?
We don't address that in this bill. We just keep sending the money for
it, after we send the first $3.3 billion and then whatever it takes
after that, rather than looking and reassessing what our need is.
If S. 4 passes in its current form, Congress will have authorized the
creation of two nearly identical interoperability grant programs.
Again, interoperability is this concept that first responders can talk
to one another: if there is a fire going on in Tulsa, and there is a
need that Oklahoma City firefighters will be there, that they can talk
to them; that if there is something going on in Arkansas and Oklahoma
first responders need to be there, there is the ability for them to
talk to one another over their communications gear.
One of these grant programs is housed at Commerce but run by DHS. The
other is going to be housed at DHS. The differences between these two
programs in their details are minimal. Both provide for funding of
equipment, both provide for funding for training, and both will exist
side by side until 2010, when PSIC expires.
The purpose of this amendment would be to combine the two duplicative
grant programs for interoperability. It does it by repealing the PSIC
Grant Program at Commerce and it redirects the funding set aside for
the PSIC Grant Program at Commerce to funding the Emergency
Communications and Interoperability Grant Program at DHS. This will not
decrease the amount of money. We are going to still spend $4.3 billion.
But we are going to do it through one grant program rather than two.
There are not going to be two sets of signals out there for the
States that want to go after this money or the communities that need to
go after this money. There is going to be one.
There are a couple of technical changes with this that are required,
which is repealing the Call Home Act of 2006, which sets a deadline of
September 30, 2007. We haven't had the first grant application right
now, so that gives us less than 6 months to get grants in and advised
and granted on the PSIC Grant Program.
Finally, I think a very important part of this amendment requires
that DHS study and report to Congress on the feasibility of engaging
the private sector in developing a national interoperable emergency
communications network. Neither of these grant programs address the
national focus that would be needed. One of the problems in Katrina was
all the people who went down there, the 9/11 responders and emergency
responders, couldn't communicate with the emergency responders in
Louisiana.
What this says is, aren't there some brains out there in the private
sector who could tell us what we need to do and then we could have our
grant programs actually go to buy the equipment, the training, so the
program is already figured out so we don't have duplication so the
people in Oklahoma can talk to the people in Kansas and Nebraska and in
New York--all across the country. There is no national security reason
why we need two interoperable communication grant programs for the
States.
The second point: The administration--this is another area of this
bill that they strongly oppose, setting up two identical or very
similar grant programs.
No. 3, the Department of Commerce has essentially contracted this
grant program out to DHS. It rightfully should be.
No. 4, the 9/11 economic report explicitly stated that Congress
should not use grant programs as porkbarrel. If we have two grant
programs running side by side and one isn't talking to another and a
State has gotten one and they don't know the State is applying for the
same thing at the other, how much stewardship have we practiced with
the American taxpayers' money? We have not.
One of the prime recommendations of the 9/11 Commission was to
reorganize the grant programs to eliminate confusion. That is exactly
what this amendment does. It reorganizes the grant programs into one
grant program, one place where you go to get it, one source of
planning, one source of administration for it.
I will not go into the reasons why we have two programs, but needless
to say it is because Members of Congress are not talking to each other.
We have two interoperability grant programs that are not interoperable
because we have a Congress that is not interoperable in communications
with one another in terms of committee to committee or Member to
Member.
The Department of Homeland Security has been cleared as the lead
Federal agency for interoperability emergency communications. That is
where these grants ought to be. That is who we are going to hold
accountable. By not having them both in the same department, then we
are not going to be able to hold them accountable when we do oversight.
The other thing is the average American cannot afford to purchase two
of anything. Many times with these two programs, we are going to see
the same thing paid for twice because the right hand is not going to
know what the left hand is doing. There is no good policy reason for
the Federal Government to have these two programs.
The other thing I think is fairly easy to recognize is if you have
two grant programs, it is hard for the American public to realize how
much money we are spending on the grant programs because you have got
to find one and then the other. The total, which is going to be $4.3
billion, is not recognized now.
The final reason is our first responder organizations write grants.
They are already required, in terms of all of the things we have done
in terms of emergency preparedness, to provide multiple proposals
annually right now to get Federal funding. Why would we not want them
to have one application for interoperability? It is a waste of their
time and the State's time.
The arguments you are going to hear tomorrow--we are going to debate
this amendment again tomorrow afternoon with my colleagues from Hawaii
and Alaska. They are going to say the PSIC Grant Program is only
authorized until 2010, so after that there would not be a problem
anymore for two grant programs. That is not a good reason to have two
grant programs.
The public safety interoperability program requires the department to
coordinate its efforts with the Secretary of Homeland Security. Yes,
they did. They signed a memorandum of understanding that says they are
going to run it all.
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Finally, the Commerce Department has the authority and expertise over
emergency communication grant programs. Although the PSIC Program was
placed in Commerce, all of the operational authority for that grant
program was essentially transferred to the Department of Homeland
Security.
The Department of Homeland Security essentially treats the PSIC as
part of its own budget, showing that Commerce has no real role in
administering this program.
Another argument would be the programs are not identical but focus on
different aspects of communications interoperability; it would hurt the
emergency response community to get rid of either one of the programs.
Well, the one that is in this bill does it all. The one that is in
the Commerce bill that we have already allocated $1 billion for is
mainly about equipment, it is not as much about training.
We ought to know, if we are going to spend $4.3 billion that
emergency responders anywhere ought to be able to talk to one another.
We do not know that with this money. There is no string on this money
that says that is the end goal. That is why a study coming out of the
Department of Homeland Security that says go look at the outside and
ask the private sector to tell us how do we take this spectrum that has
been set aside, two different sections of spectrum for this, and how do
we create a plan so that throughout the whole country, no matter what
the need is, one group of emergency responders can talk to another?
That is what we ought to be getting for our $4.3 billion. That is not
in either one of those programs. So what we are going to do is we are
going to spend $4.3 billion on these grant programs, with no assurances
that we are going to accomplish the very thing we seek to accomplish.
I believe there could not be a more wasteful attempt at our spending
when we do not know what we are going to do for an endpoint on the
spending.
A few comments about the overall bill. There has to come a point in
time in this country where we recognize that we do not have enough
money to do everything we need to do to protect us. That is true today.
Where we ought to be putting our money is where we think the highest
risks are. I agree with the Presiding Officer. Areas such as New Jersey
are at much greater risk and ought to get much greater funding. They
have a greater risk and a greater need.
Does that mean I am pleased if that means soft targets in Oklahoma
are going to be exposed? No, but there has to be a dispensing of the
money based on what the most likely risks are. So when we finish all of
this, we will have gotten what we wanted.
Earlier today, I offered an amendment to sunset this bill in 5 years.
We will look at it again and see what have we accomplished. What is
left to accomplish? Where is the greatest area of risk? What do we
still need to do? We have not done that in this bill. That is how we
are going to make good policy--making sure that the dollars we spend to
protect America are spent on the areas that will get us the most in
this bill that we are debating today. We refuse to do that. It
authorizes this bill to continue forever.
There is no sunset to it. There is no stop to say that we need to
relook at this. There is nothing for the Congress to come back and look
at as we did in the PATRIOT Act, where we required that we had to come
back and look at it. We sunsetted it. And even though we passed the
PATRIOT Act last year, we took sections of it that we said we know we
are going to want to look at again, so we sunsetted it.
If we are going to be good stewards with the American taxpayer's
money, we ought to sunset this bill. We ought to sunset these two
interoperability programs so that we know whether we have accomplished
what we desire and know what the problems are so that we can predict
them. By not sunsetting, by not combining the programs, by not
efficiently spending and wisely planning the spending of the American
taxpayer dollars is getting us on down the road where we do not want to
be, which is more and more of what we are spending today being paid for
more and more by our grandchildren and children of tomorrow.
I thank you for the time. I look forward to debating this bill
tomorrow with Senator Stevens and Senator Inouye. My hope is that
Senator McCain, who is a member of the Commerce Committee, will be here
to aid in this. There is no reason for us to have two programs making
States apply for two different grant programs that essentially do the
same thing.
We would not do that ourselves in our homes. We would not set up two
parallel requirements to accomplish the same goal. We should not be
doing it in this bill.
Mr. AKAKA. Mr. President, I rise today in support of the grant
funding formula in the underlying bill, S .4, as well as Senator Reid's
amendment in the nature of a substitute. I also wish to underscore the
comments made previously by the chairman and ranking member of the
Homeland Security Committee on which I serve. As Senators Lieberman and
Collins have articulated so well, I do not question the need for
heavily populated States such as New Jersey and Texas to receive
appropriate sums of homeland security grant funding to address their
homeland security needs, nor do I question the need to protect chemical
plants or to protect nuclear power plants. All of this is beyond
question.
The point of this debate is protecting America against many risks,
both natural and manmade. The State of Hawaii is subject to many
natural disasters including hurricanes, floods, earthquakes, volcanoes,
tsunamis, wildfires, droughts, and tropical storms. In addition, Hawaii
is unique in that it is 2500 miles from the U.S. mainland. If disaster
strikes Hawaii, natural or otherwise, it does not have neighboring
States to rely on for assistance. It therefore must have numerous
safety and security systems in place and be relatively self-reliant.
Hawaii is also the gateway to the Pacific and, as such, provides
support to American Samoa, Guam, and the Northern Mariana Islands
through the U.S. Pacific Command, PACOM, in the event of a disaster.
Hawaii also provided assistance and support to Thailand in the
aftermath of the December 26, 2004, tsunami.
It is critical to remember that, although the Federal Emergency
Management Agency, FEMA, was folded into the Department of Homeland
Security, DHS, its mandate as the principal Federal agency charged with
addressing preparation, mitigation, and response to all disasters, both
natural and manmade, remains.
On January 18, 2007, DHS Secretary Chertoff announced his plan to
reorganize DHS. That plan calls for FEMA to assume control of the
Grants and Training program, including the State Homeland Security
Grant Program, SHSGP, and other grant programs--grant programs that
fund not only activities to prepare for, mitigate, and respond to
terrorist attacks but also activities to prepare for, mitigate, and
respond to natural disasters. Securing our homeland does not only mean
protecting it from terrorists but also from the effects of mother
nature, a force capable of directing a Katrina-sized hurricane to our
soil.
In his recently released book, ``The Edge of Disaster,'' Dr. Stephen
Flynn, a senior fellow with the National Security Studies Program at
the Council on Foreign Relations, argues that 90 percent of Americans
reside in an area that will experience a moderate to major natural
disaster at any given time. This is not just about urban areas; this is
about nearly every American being faced with a significant natural
disaster with a far higher likelihood than any terrorist attack. As Dr.
Flynn observes, we need ``an all-hazards approach'' in ``constructing
safer communities and reducing the overall fragility of the nation.''
Hurricane Katrina illustrated that the United States has limited
surge capacity at the State and local levels to respond to a large-
scale natural or manmade event. Aging infrastructure, including faulty
power grids, shortages in medical personnel and supplies make the
United States vulnerable and exacerbate the impact of any attack or
natural disaster. If we have a weak infrastructure, faulty and eroding
levees, hopelessly outdated communications systems, then we are
vulnerable and no amount of radiation portal monitors, RPMs, will
protect us from the catastrophic impact of a terrorist attack or
natural disaster.
I strongly support the homeland security grant formula contained in S
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and Senator Reid's amendment in the nature of a substitute. I oppose
any efforts to lower guaranteed funding levels for all States.
I yield the floor and suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
The assistant legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. REID. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for
the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
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