[Congressional Record Volume 152, Number 65 (Tuesday, May 23, 2006)]
[House]
[Pages H3097-H3118]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
AGRICULTURE, RURAL DEVELOPMENT, FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION, AND
RELATED AGENCIES APPROPRIATIONS ACT, 2007
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to House Resolution 830 and rule
XVIII, the Chair declares the House in the Committee of the Whole House
on the State of the Union for the further consideration of the bill,
H.R. 5384.
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In the Committee of the Whole
Accordingly, the House resolved itself into the Committee of the
Whole House on the State of the Union for the further consideration of
the bill (H.R. 5384) making appropriations for Agriculture, Rural
Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies for the
fiscal year ending September 30, 2007, with Mr. Ryan of Wisconsin in
the chair.
The Clerk read the title of the bill.
The CHAIRMAN. When the Committee of the Whole rose earlier today, the
amendment offered by the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Paul) had been
disposed of and the bill had been read through page 82, line 14.
Under the order of the House just entered, the current series of
votes will continue as 5-minute votes. Any succeeding series of votes
may include 2-minute votes after the first in a series.
Amendment No. 12 Offered by Mr. Chabot of Ohio
The CHAIRMAN. The pending business is the demand for a recorded vote
on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Chabot) on
which further proceedings were postponed and on which the noes
prevailed by voice vote.
The Clerk will redesignate the amendment.
The Clerk redesignated the amendment.
Recorded Vote
The CHAIRMAN. A recorded vote has been demanded.
A recorded vote was ordered.
The CHAIRMAN. This will be a 5-minute vote.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 79,
noes 342, not voting 11, as follows:
[Roll No. 185]
AYES--79
Akin
Andrews
Bachus
Barrett (SC)
Bass
Berkley
Bradley (NH)
Brown (OH)
Burgess
Burton (IN)
Campbell (CA)
Cannon
Cantor
Capuano
Castle
Chabot
Chocola
Clay
Culberson
Davis, Jo Ann
DeGette
Dent
Doggett
Duncan
Ehlers
English (PA)
Feeney
Ferguson
Fitzpatrick (PA)
Flake
Fossella
Franks (AZ)
Garrett (NJ)
Gibbons
Gillmor
Hayworth
Hefley
Hensarling
Hoekstra
Hostettler
Hyde
Inglis (SC)
Istook
Johnson, Sam
Kucinich
Linder
LoBiondo
Mack
Manzullo
Matheson
McHenry
McKinney
Miller, Gary
Moran (VA)
Myrick
Owens
Paul
Pence
Poe
Price (GA)
Ramstad
Rohrabacher
Royce
Ryan (WI)
Sensenbrenner
Shadegg
Shaw
Shays
Stark
Stearns
Tancredo
Taylor (MS)
Thompson (MS)
Tiberi
Van Hollen
Visclosky
Wamp
Waxman
Wilson (SC)
NOES--342
Abercrombie
Ackerman
Aderholt
Alexander
Allen
Baca
Baird
Baker
Baldwin
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Barrow
Bartlett (MD)
Barton (TX)
Bean
Beauprez
Becerra
Berman
Berry
Biggert
Bilirakis
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (NY)
Bishop (UT)
Blackburn
Blumenauer
Blunt
Boehlert
Boehner
Bonilla
Bonner
Bono
Boozman
Boren
Boswell
Boucher
Boustany
Boyd
Brady (PA)
Brady (TX)
Brown (SC)
Brown-Waite, Ginny
Butterfield
Buyer
Calvert
Camp (MI)
Capito
Capps
Cardin
Cardoza
Carnahan
Carson
Carter
Case
Chandler
Cleaver
Clyburn
Coble
Cole (OK)
Conaway
Conyers
Cooper
Costa
Costello
Cramer
Crenshaw
Crowley
Cubin
Cuellar
Cummings
Davis (AL)
Davis (CA)
Davis (IL)
Davis (KY)
Davis (TN)
Davis, Tom
Deal (GA)
DeFazio
Delahunt
DeLauro
DeLay
Diaz-Balart, L.
Diaz-Balart, M.
Dicks
Dingell
Doolittle
Doyle
Drake
Dreier
Edwards
Emanuel
Emerson
Engel
Eshoo
Etheridge
Everett
Farr
Fattah
Filner
Foley
Forbes
Ford
Fortenberry
Foxx
Frank (MA)
Frelinghuysen
Gallegly
Gerlach
Gilchrest
Gingrey
Gohmert
Gonzalez
Goode
Goodlatte
Gordon
Granger
Graves
Green (WI)
Green, Al
Grijalva
Gutierrez
Gutknecht
Hall
Harman
Harris
Hart
Hastings (FL)
Hastings (WA)
Hayes
Herger
Herseth
Higgins
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Hobson
Holden
Holt
Honda
Hooley
Hoyer
Hulshof
Inslee
Israel
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Jefferson
Jenkins
Jindal
Johnson (CT)
Johnson (IL)
Johnson, E. B.
Jones (NC)
Jones (OH)
Kanjorski
Kaptur
Keller
Kelly
Kennedy (MN)
Kildee
Kilpatrick (MI)
Kind
King (IA)
King (NY)
Kingston
Kirk
Kline
Knollenberg
Kolbe
Kuhl (NY)
LaHood
Langevin
Lantos
Larsen (WA)
Latham
LaTourette
Leach
Lee
Levin
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (GA)
Lewis (KY)
Lipinski
Lofgren, Zoe
Lowey
Lucas
Lungren, Daniel E.
Maloney
Marchant
Markey
Marshall
Matsui
McCarthy
McCaul (TX)
McCollum (MN)
McCotter
McCrery
McDermott
McGovern
McHugh
McIntyre
McKeon
McMorris
McNulty
Meehan
Meek (FL)
Meeks (NY)
Melancon
Mica
Michaud
Millender-McDonald
Miller (FL)
Miller (MI)
Miller (NC)
Miller, George
Mollohan
Moore (KS)
Moore (WI)
Moran (KS)
Murphy
Murtha
Musgrave
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal (MA)
Neugebauer
Ney
Northup
Norwood
Nunes
Nussle
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Ortiz
Osborne
Otter
Oxley
Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor
Pearce
Pelosi
Peterson (MN)
Peterson (PA)
Petri
Pickering
Pitts
Platts
Pombo
Pomeroy
Porter
Price (NC)
Pryce (OH)
Putnam
Radanovich
Rahall
Rangel
Regula
Rehberg
Reichert
Renzi
Reyes
Reynolds
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rogers (MI)
Ros-Lehtinen
Ross
Rothman
Roybal-Allard
Ruppersberger
Rush
Ryan (OH)
Ryun (KS)
Sabo
Salazar
Sanchez, Linda T.
Sanchez, Loretta
Sanders
Saxton
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schmidt
Schwartz (PA)
Schwarz (MI)
Scott (GA)
Scott (VA)
Serrano
Sessions
Sherman
Sherwood
Shimkus
Shuster
Simmons
Simpson
Skelton
Slaughter
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Smith (WA)
Sodrel
Solis
Souder
Spratt
Strickland
Stupak
Sullivan
Sweeney
Tanner
Tauscher
Taylor (NC)
Terry
Thomas
Thompson (CA)
Thornberry
Tiahrt
Tierney
Towns
Turner
Udall (CO)
Udall (NM)
Upton
Velazquez
Walden (OR)
Walsh
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Watson
Watt
Weiner
Weldon (FL)
Weldon (PA)
Weller
Westmoreland
Wexler
Whitfield
Wicker
Wilson (NM)
Wolf
Woolsey
Wu
Wynn
Young (AK)
Young (FL)
NOT VOTING--11
Brown, Corrine
Davis (FL)
Evans
Green, Gene
Hunter
Issa
Kennedy (RI)
Larson (CT)
Lynch
Payne
Snyder
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Mrs. MALONEY changed her vote from ``aye'' to ``no.''
So the amendment was rejected.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
Amendment No. 8 Offered by Mr. Hefley
The CHAIRMAN. The pending business is the demand for a recorded vote
on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Colorado (Mr. Hefley) on
which further proceedings were postponed and on which the ayes
prevailed by voice vote.
The Clerk will redesignate the amendment.
The Clerk redesignated the amendment.
Recorded Vote
The CHAIRMAN. A recorded vote has been demanded.
A recorded vote was ordered.
The CHAIRMAN. This will be a 5-minute vote.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 99,
noes 322, not voting 11, as follows:
[Roll No. 186]
AYES--99
Akin
Bachus
Barrett (SC)
Bartlett (MD)
Barton (TX)
Bass
Bean
Beauprez
Bilirakis
Bishop (UT)
Blackburn
Bradley (NH)
Brady (TX)
Brown (SC)
Burgess
Burton (IN)
Buyer
Campbell (CA)
Cannon
Castle
Chabot
Chocola
Coble
Cooper
Davis (KY)
Deal (GA)
Dent
Diaz-Balart, M.
Duncan
Everett
Feeney
Flake
Ford
Fossella
Foxx
Franks (AZ)
Garrett (NJ)
Gibbons
Gingrey
Gohmert
Gutknecht
Harris
Hart
Hayworth
Hefley
Hensarling
Herger
Hoekstra
Hostettler
Inglis (SC)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Jenkins
Johnson, Sam
Jones (NC)
Keller
King (IA)
Lewis (KY)
Linder
Lungren, Daniel E.
Mack
Manzullo
Matheson
McCotter
McHenry
Mica
Miller (FL)
Miller, Gary
Myrick
Norwood
Otter
Paul
Pence
Petri
Pitts
Price (GA)
Radanovich
Ramstad
Rogers (MI)
Rohrabacher
Rothman
Royce
Rush
Ryan (WI)
Sensenbrenner
Sessions
Shadegg
Shays
Shimkus
Shuster
Stearns
Sullivan
Tancredo
Tanner
Taylor (MS)
Terry
Tiberi
Westmoreland
Wilson (SC)
Young (FL)
NOES--322
Abercrombie
Ackerman
Aderholt
Alexander
Allen
Andrews
Baca
Baird
Baker
Baldwin
Barrow
Becerra
Berkley
Berman
Berry
Biggert
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (NY)
Blumenauer
Blunt
Boehlert
Boehner
Bonilla
Bonner
Bono
Boozman
Boren
Boswell
Boucher
Boustany
Boyd
Brady (PA)
Brown (OH)
Brown-Waite, Ginny
Butterfield
Calvert
Camp (MI)
Cantor
Capito
Capps
Capuano
Cardin
Cardoza
Carnahan
Carson
Carter
Case
Chandler
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Cole (OK)
Conaway
Conyers
Costa
Costello
Cramer
Crenshaw
Crowley
Cubin
Cuellar
Culberson
Cummings
Davis (AL)
Davis (CA)
Davis (IL)
Davis (TN)
Davis, Jo Ann
Davis, Tom
DeFazio
DeGette
Delahunt
DeLauro
DeLay
Diaz-Balart, L.
Dicks
Dingell
Doggett
Doolittle
Doyle
Drake
Dreier
Edwards
Ehlers
Emanuel
Emerson
Engel
English (PA)
Eshoo
Etheridge
Farr
Fattah
Ferguson
Filner
Fitzpatrick (PA)
Foley
Forbes
Fortenberry
Frank (MA)
Frelinghuysen
Gallegly
Gerlach
Gilchrest
Gillmor
Gonzalez
Goode
Goodlatte
Gordon
Granger
Graves
Green (WI)
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Gutierrez
Hall
Harman
Hastings (FL)
Hastings (WA)
Hayes
Herseth
Higgins
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Hobson
Holden
Holt
Honda
Hooley
Hoyer
Hulshof
Hyde
Inslee
Israel
Jackson (IL)
Jefferson
Jindal
Johnson (CT)
Johnson (IL)
Johnson, E. B.
Jones (OH)
Kanjorski
Kaptur
Kelly
Kennedy (MN)
Kildee
Kilpatrick (MI)
Kind
King (NY)
Kingston
Kirk
Kline
Knollenberg
Kolbe
Kucinich
Kuhl (NY)
LaHood
Langevin
Lantos
Larsen (WA)
Latham
LaTourette
Leach
Lee
Levin
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (GA)
Lipinski
LoBiondo
Lofgren, Zoe
Lowey
Lucas
Lynch
Maloney
Marchant
Markey
Marshall
Matsui
McCarthy
McCaul (TX)
McCollum (MN)
McCrery
McDermott
McGovern
McIntyre
McKeon
McKinney
McMorris
McNulty
Meehan
Meek (FL)
Meeks (NY)
Melancon
Michaud
Millender-McDonald
Miller (MI)
Miller (NC)
Miller, George
Mollohan
Moore (KS)
Moore (WI)
Moran (KS)
Moran (VA)
Murphy
Murtha
Musgrave
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal (MA)
Neugebauer
Ney
Northup
Nunes
Nussle
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Ortiz
Osborne
Owens
Oxley
Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor
Pearce
Pelosi
Peterson (MN)
Peterson (PA)
Pickering
Platts
Poe
Pombo
Pomeroy
Porter
Price (NC)
Pryce (OH)
Putnam
Rahall
Rangel
Regula
Rehberg
Reichert
Renzi
Reyes
Reynolds
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Ros-Lehtinen
Ross
Roybal-Allard
Ruppersberger
Ryan (OH)
Ryun (KS)
Sabo
Salazar
Sanchez, Linda T.
Sanchez, Loretta
Sanders
Saxton
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schmidt
Schwartz (PA)
Schwarz (MI)
Scott (GA)
Scott (VA)
Serrano
Shaw
Sherman
Sherwood
Simmons
Simpson
Skelton
Slaughter
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Smith (WA)
Sodrel
Solis
Souder
Spratt
Stark
Strickland
Stupak
Sweeney
Tauscher
Taylor (NC)
Thomas
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Thornberry
Tiahrt
Tierney
Towns
Turner
Udall (CO)
Udall (NM)
Upton
Van Hollen
Velazquez
Visclosky
Walden (OR)
Walsh
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Wamp
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Watson
Watt
Waxman
Weiner
Weldon (FL)
Weldon (PA)
Weller
Wexler
Whitfield
Wicker
Wilson (NM)
Wolf
Woolsey
Wu
Wynn
Young (AK)
NOT VOTING--11
Brown, Corrine
Davis (FL)
Evans
Hunter
Issa
Istook
Kennedy (RI)
Larson (CT)
McHugh
Payne
Snyder
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Mr. NORWOOD changed his vote from ``no'' to ``aye.''
So the amendment was rejected.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
Amendment No. 6 Offered by Mr. Blumenauer
The CHAIRMAN. The pending business is the demand for a recorded vote
on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Oregon (Mr. Blumenauer)
on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the noes
prevailed by voice vote.
The Clerk will redesignate the amendment.
The Clerk redesignated the amendment.
Recorded Vote
The CHAIRMAN. A recorded vote has been demanded.
A recorded vote was ordered.
The CHAIRMAN. This will be a 5-minute vote.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 135,
noes 281, not voting 16, as follows:
[Roll No. 187]
AYES--135
Allen
Andrews
Bean
Berkley
Berman
Biggert
Bilirakis
Bishop (NY)
Blackburn
Blumenauer
Boehlert
Bono
Boucher
Bradley (NH)
Brown-Waite, Ginny
Campbell (CA)
Capps
Capuano
Castle
Chabot
Chocola
Cooper
Davis (IL)
Davis (KY)
Davis, Tom
Deal (GA)
DeGette
DeLay
Dent
Doggett
Doyle
Drake
Duncan
Ehlers
Emanuel
English (PA)
Eshoo
Ferguson
Fitzpatrick (PA)
Flake
Forbes
Fossella
Frank (MA)
Franks (AZ)
Frelinghuysen
Gibbons
Gingrey
Gohmert
Gordon
Green (WI)
Gutierrez
Hart
Hayworth
Hefley
Hensarling
Hoekstra
Holt
Hostettler
Inglis (SC)
Israel
Jackson (IL)
Johnson (CT)
Johnson, Sam
Kanjorski
Keller
Kelly
Kind
Kingston
Kirk
Kolbe
Kuhl (NY)
Langevin
Lee
Lewis (KY)
Linder
Lipinski
LoBiondo
Lowey
Manzullo
Markey
Matheson
McKinney
McNulty
Meehan
Meeks (NY)
Miller, George
Moore (WI)
Moran (VA)
Neal (MA)
Northup
Owens
Pallone
Pascrell
Paul
Pence
Peterson (PA)
Petri
Platts
Price (GA)
Pryce (OH)
Ramstad
Rogers (KY)
Rohrabacher
Royce
Rush
Ryan (WI)
Sanchez, Loretta
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schwartz (PA)
Sensenbrenner
Sessions
Shadegg
Shaw
Shays
Shuster
Smith (NJ)
Smith (WA)
Souder
Stark
Stearns
Sweeney
Tancredo
Tauscher
Tiberi
Tierney
Udall (NM)
Van Hollen
Wamp
Waters
Watson
Waxman
Weiner
Westmoreland
Young (FL)
NOES--281
Abercrombie
Ackerman
Aderholt
Akin
Alexander
Baca
Bachus
Baird
Baker
Baldwin
Barrett (SC)
Barrow
Bartlett (MD)
Barton (TX)
Beauprez
Becerra
Berry
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (UT)
Blunt
Boehner
Bonilla
Bonner
Boozman
Boren
Boswell
Boustany
Boyd
Brady (PA)
Brady (TX)
Brown (OH)
Brown (SC)
Burgess
Burton (IN)
Butterfield
Buyer
Calvert
Camp (MI)
Cannon
Cantor
Capito
Cardin
Cardoza
Carnahan
Carson
Carter
Case
Chandler
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Coble
Cole (OK)
Conaway
Conyers
Costa
Costello
Cramer
Crenshaw
Crowley
Cubin
Cuellar
Culberson
Cummings
Davis (AL)
Davis (TN)
Davis, Jo Ann
DeFazio
Delahunt
DeLauro
Diaz-Balart, L.
Diaz-Balart, M.
Dicks
Dingell
Doolittle
Dreier
Edwards
Emerson
Engel
Etheridge
Everett
Farr
Fattah
Feeney
Filner
Foley
Ford
Fortenberry
Foxx
Gallegly
Garrett (NJ)
Gerlach
Gilchrest
Gillmor
Gonzalez
Goode
Goodlatte
Granger
Graves
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Gutknecht
Hall
Harman
Harris
Hastings (FL)
Hastings (WA)
Hayes
Herger
Herseth
Higgins
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Hobson
Holden
Honda
Hooley
Hulshof
Hyde
Inslee
Istook
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Jefferson
Jenkins
Jindal
Johnson (IL)
Johnson, E. B.
Jones (NC)
Jones (OH)
Kaptur
Kennedy (MN)
Kildee
Kilpatrick (MI)
King (IA)
King (NY)
Kline
Knollenberg
Kucinich
LaHood
Lantos
Larsen (WA)
Latham
LaTourette
Leach
Levin
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (GA)
Lofgren, Zoe
Lucas
Lungren, Daniel E.
Lynch
Mack
Maloney
Marchant
Marshall
Matsui
McCarthy
McCaul (TX)
McCollum (MN)
McCotter
McCrery
McDermott
McGovern
McHugh
McIntyre
McKeon
McMorris
Meek (FL)
Melancon
Mica
Michaud
Miller (FL)
Miller (MI)
Miller (NC)
Miller, Gary
Mollohan
Moore (KS)
Moran (KS)
Murphy
Murtha
Musgrave
Myrick
Nadler
Napolitano
Neugebauer
Ney
Norwood
Nunes
Nussle
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Ortiz
Osborne
Otter
Oxley
Pastor
Pearce
Pelosi
Peterson (MN)
Pickering
Pitts
Poe
Pombo
Pomeroy
Porter
Price (NC)
Putnam
Rahall
Rangel
Regula
Rehberg
Reichert
Renzi
Reyes
Reynolds
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (MI)
Ros-Lehtinen
Ross
Rothman
Roybal-Allard
Ruppersberger
Ryan (OH)
Ryun (KS)
Sabo
Salazar
Sanchez, Linda T.
Sanders
Saxton
Schmidt
Schwarz (MI)
Scott (GA)
Scott (VA)
Serrano
Sherman
Sherwood
Shimkus
Simpson
Skelton
Slaughter
Smith (TX)
Sodrel
Solis
Spratt
Strickland
Stupak
Sullivan
Tanner
Taylor (MS)
Taylor (NC)
Terry
Thomas
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Thornberry
Tiahrt
Towns
Turner
Udall (CO)
Upton
Velazquez
Visclosky
Walden (OR)
Walsh
Wasserman Schultz
Watt
Weldon (FL)
Weldon (PA)
Weller
Wexler
Whitfield
Wicker
Wilson (NM)
Wilson (SC)
Wolf
Woolsey
Wu
Wynn
Young (AK)
NOT VOTING--16
Bass
Brown, Corrine
Davis (CA)
Davis (FL)
Evans
Hoyer
Hunter
Issa
Kennedy (RI)
Larson (CT)
McHenry
Millender-McDonald
Payne
Radanovich
Simmons
Snyder
{time} 1802
So the amendment was rejected.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
Amendment No. 13 Offered by Mr. Gutknecht
The CHAIRMAN. The pending business is the demand for a recorded vote
on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Minnesota (Mr.
Gutknecht) on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the
noes prevailed by voice vote.
The Clerk will redesignate the amendment.
The Clerk redesignated the amendment.
Recorded Vote
The CHAIRMAN. A recorded vote has been demanded.
A recorded vote was ordered.
The CHAIRMAN. This will be a 5-minute vote.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 185,
noes 235, not voting 12, as follows:
[Roll No. 188]
AYES--185
Akin
Andrews
Baca
Bachus
Baldwin
Bass
Bean
Becerra
Berkley
Berman
Biggert
Bishop (NY)
Boehner
Bono
Bradley (NH)
Brady (PA)
Brown (OH)
Brown-Waite, Ginny
Butterfield
Camp (MI)
Campbell (CA)
Capps
Cardin
Carnahan
Carson
Case
Castle
Chabot
Chandler
Clay
Clyburn
Costello
Cummings
Davis (CA)
Davis (IL)
Davis, Jo Ann
Davis, Tom
DeGette
Delahunt
DeLauro
Doggett
Doyle
Ehlers
Emanuel
English (PA)
Eshoo
Fattah
Ferguson
Fitzpatrick (PA)
Ford
Fortenberry
Fossella
Frank (MA)
Franks (AZ)
Gerlach
Gibbons
Gonzalez
Gordon
Green (WI)
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Gutierrez
Gutknecht
Harman
Harris
Holden
Holt
Honda
Inglis (SC)
Israel
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Jefferson
Jenkins
Johnson (CT)
Johnson (IL)
Johnson, E. B.
Jones (NC)
Jones (OH)
Kanjorski
Kelly
Kennedy (MN)
Kilpatrick (MI)
Kind
King (IA)
King (NY)
Kingston
Kirk
Kline
Kucinich
Kuhl (NY)
Langevin
Leach
Lee
Lewis (GA)
Lipinski
LoBiondo
Lofgren, Zoe
Lynch
Markey
Marshall
Matheson
Matsui
McCarthy
McCollum (MN)
McCrery
McGovern
McKinney
Meehan
Miller (MI)
Miller (NC)
Miller, George
Mollohan
Moore (WI)
Moran (VA)
Murtha
Myrick
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal (MA)
Nussle
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Ortiz
Osborne
Owens
Pallone
Pascrell
Paul
Pelosi
Peterson (MN)
Petri
Platts
Porter
Price (GA)
Price (NC)
Pryce (OH)
Ramstad
Reyes
Rohrabacher
Rothman
Roybal-Allard
Royce
Ruppersberger
Rush
Ryan (WI)
Sabo
Sanchez, Loretta
Sanders
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schwartz (PA)
Schwarz (MI)
Scott (GA)
Scott (VA)
Sensenbrenner
Sessions
Shays
Sherman
Slaughter
Smith (NJ)
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Smith (WA)
Solis
Souder
Stearns
Stupak
Sweeney
Tancredo
Tanner
Tauscher
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Tiberi
Upton
Van Hollen
Visclosky
Wasserman Schultz
Weldon (PA)
Weller
Westmoreland
Wexler
Woolsey
Wynn
NOES--235
Abercrombie
Ackerman
Aderholt
Alexander
Allen
Baird
Baker
Barrett (SC)
Barrow
Bartlett (MD)
Barton (TX)
Beauprez
Berry
Bilirakis
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (UT)
Blackburn
Blumenauer
Blunt
Boehlert
Bonilla
Bonner
Boozman
Boren
Boswell
Boucher
Boustany
Boyd
Brady (TX)
Brown (SC)
Burgess
Burton (IN)
Buyer
Calvert
Cannon
Cantor
Capito
Capuano
Cardoza
Carter
Chocola
Cleaver
Coble
Cole (OK)
Conaway
Conyers
Cooper
Costa
Cramer
Crenshaw
Crowley
Cubin
Cuellar
Davis (AL)
Davis (KY)
Davis (TN)
Deal (GA)
DeFazio
DeLay
Dent
Diaz-Balart, L.
Diaz-Balart, M.
Dicks
Dingell
Doolittle
Drake
Dreier
Duncan
Edwards
Emerson
Engel
Etheridge
Everett
Farr
Feeney
Filner
Flake
Foley
Forbes
Foxx
Frelinghuysen
Gallegly
Garrett (NJ)
Gilchrest
Gillmor
Gingrey
Gohmert
Goode
Goodlatte
Granger
Graves
Hall
Hart
Hastings (FL)
Hastings (WA)
Hayes
Hayworth
Hefley
Hensarling
Herger
Herseth
Higgins
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Hobson
Hoekstra
Hooley
Hostettler
Hoyer
Hulshof
Hyde
Inslee
Istook
Jindal
Johnson, Sam
Kaptur
Kildee
Knollenberg
Kolbe
LaHood
Lantos
Larsen (WA)
Latham
LaTourette
Levin
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (KY)
Linder
Lowey
Lucas
Lungren, Daniel E.
Mack
Maloney
Manzullo
Marchant
McCaul (TX)
McCotter
McDermott
McHenry
McHugh
McIntyre
McKeon
McMorris
McNulty
Meek (FL)
Meeks (NY)
Melancon
Mica
Michaud
Millender-McDonald
Miller (FL)
Miller, Gary
Moore (KS)
Moran (KS)
Murphy
Musgrave
Neugebauer
Ney
Northup
Norwood
Nunes
Otter
Pastor
Pearce
Pence
Peterson (PA)
Pickering
Pitts
Poe
Pombo
Pomeroy
Putnam
Radanovich
Rahall
Rangel
Regula
Rehberg
Reichert
Renzi
Reynolds
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rogers (MI)
Ros-Lehtinen
Ross
Ryan (OH)
Ryun (KS)
Salazar
Sanchez, Linda T.
Saxton
Schmidt
Serrano
Shadegg
Shaw
Sherwood
Shimkus
Shuster
Simmons
Simpson
Skelton
Smith (TX)
Sodrel
Spratt
Stark
Strickland
Sullivan
Taylor (MS)
Taylor (NC)
Terry
Thomas
Thornberry
Tiahrt
Tierney
Towns
Turner
Udall (CO)
Udall (NM)
Velazquez
Walden (OR)
Walsh
Wamp
Waters
Watson
Watt
Waxman
Weiner
Weldon (FL)
Whitfield
Wicker
Wilson (NM)
Wilson (SC)
Wolf
Wu
Young (AK)
Young (FL)
NOT VOTING--12
Brown, Corrine
Culberson
Davis (FL)
Evans
Hunter
Issa
Keller
Kennedy (RI)
Larson (CT)
Oxley
Payne
Snyder
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Mr. ALEXANDER changed his vote from ``aye'' to ``no.''
Ms. ZOE LOFGREN of California, Mr. GUTIERREZ, Ms. WASSERMAN SCHULTZ
and Mr. NEAL of Massachusetts changed their vote from ``no'' to
``aye.''
So the amendment was rejected.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
Amendment Offered by Mr. Reichert
Mr. REICHERT. Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment.
The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will designate the amendment.
The text of the amendment is as follows:
Amendment offered by Mr. Reichert:
At the end of the bill (before the short title), insert the
following new section:
Sec. 7__. None of the funds appropriated or otherwise made
available by this Act shall be used to apply part 1124 of
title 7, Code of Federal Regulations, to any producer-handler
that produces less than 9,000,000 pounds of milk per month.
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I reserve a point of order on the
gentleman's amendment.
The CHAIRMAN. A point of order is reserved.
Pursuant to the order of the House of today, the gentleman from
Washington (Mr. Reichert) and a Member opposed each will control 5
minutes.
The chair recognizes the gentleman from Washington.
Mr. REICHERT. Mr. Chairman, in April of 2006, the U.S. Department of
Agriculture issued a proposal 2 years in the making. The rule requires
the Pacific Northwest and other producer-handler operations that
produce more than 3 million pounds of milk per month to participate in
the milk pool.
To process milk, they must buy from the pool at a set price. This
helps ensure dairies small and large are paid the same price for their
milk.
But do-it-all operations like Smith Brothers Farms in Kent,
Washington, called producer-handlers, have been exempt from the
regulations since the Depression. These producer-handlers are dairies
that produce milk and process it into final product themselves. The
thinking at the time was they were too small to influence prices and
could not survive without the exemption.
Smith Brothers is one of only three dairies left in the Pacific
Northwest that raise and milk the cows, as well as pasteurize and
bottle the milk. The new regulations would devastate their business.
The rule change was meant to target a much larger producer-handler that
was producing 28 million pounds of milk per month, and this small,
family-owned business got caught in the crossfire.
The big change happened when a producer-handler decided to get big.
It made big investments and went after the big box stores, and because
it had freedom to set its own prices, it took away business from the
pool dairies.
This large milk distributor that I just indicated is producing 28
million pounds of milk per month and has 13,000 cows. In comparison,
Smith Brothers Farms in Kent, Washington, produces only 6.5 million
pounds of milk per month and has only 3,000 cows.
This order, if allowed to stand, would have a devastating effect on
dairies like Smith Brothers and would require them to go out of
business, sell off parts of their dairy operation, and/or pay $100,000
a month to a pooled penalty or settlement fund which would subsidize
their dairy operators. This order would limit competition and
ultimately drive milk prices up in the Pacific Northwest.
Mr. Chairman, my amendment states that these USDA regulations should
only apply to very large producers, those that produce 9 million pounds
of milk per month or more. A 9 million pound hard cap would mean that
if a producer-distributor exceeds 9 million pounds of Class 1 route
distribution, they cease to be eligible for producer-handler status and
become a regulated plant.
Mr. Chairman, I realize that this amendment will not be made in
order. However, I hope that we can continue to work on this issue in
order to protect small dairy farms that provide a unique and valuable
product to our customers.
Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent to respectfully withdraw my
amendment.
The CHAIRMAN. Without objection, the amendment is withdrawn.
There was no objection.
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Amendment Offered by Ms. Jackson-Lee of Texas
Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment.
The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will designate the amendment.
The text of the amendment is as follows:
Amendment offered by Ms. Jackson-Lee of Texas:
At the end of the bill (before the short title), insert the
following:
Sec. __. None of the funds appropriated in this Act may be
used to deny compensation to eligible individuals filing
claims to be satisfied out of the settlement fund approved by
the court April 14, 1999 in Pigford v Glickman, 185 F.R.D. 82
(D.D.C. 1999).
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I reserve a point of order on the
gentlewoman's amendment.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. The gentleman reserves a point of order.
Pursuant to the order of the House of today, the gentlewoman from
Texas (Ms. Jackson-Lee) and a Member opposed each will control 5
minutes.
The Chair recognizes the gentlewoman from Texas.
Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I
may consume, and I want to thank the ranking member, Ms. DeLauro, and
the chairman, Mr. Bonilla.
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Frankly, under ordinary circumstances, in regular order, Mr.
Chairman, it would be appropriate to argue this amendment and to seek
to overrule or to defend, if you will, the point of order. But I am
offering this amendment to, in essence, give light to an unending
problem to an aspect of the agricultural industry here in the United
States.
Mr. Chairman, this is an issue that has been worked on by many
Members of Congress. However, unlike as in the words ``silence is
golden,'' the absence of silence of debate on this question is not
golden and has really hurt African-American farmers, black farmers.
They have been working a number of years to secure the enforcement of a
settlement that was rendered some years ago, in 1999, under the
Glickman administration, when Mr. Glickman was the Secretary of
Agriculture when President Clinton was in office.
This is a civil rights case stemming from years and years of being
denied farm loans, with documented information regarding the many
regions where black farmers were. Black farmers were, in essence, sort
of the legacy of slavery to the extent that many of them gained their
land through that period. Many of them farmed the land and were great
contributors to American society in general, but certainly to the farm
industry of America. When they began to ask for farm loans, as other
farmers did, interestingly enough, the Department of Agriculture
systematically and on racial grounds denied them loans, therefore
causing a lot of foreclosures and the unnecessary losing by African
Americans of their farmlands.
I am grateful to past administrations, and even to those in this
administration, who understand the plight of these farmers. Without the
loans, many farmers faced foreclosures, as I said, and lost their
farms. In 1920, African Americans owned one in seven farms. Today, it
is one in 100, and I might argue it is even less than that. A large
number of African Americans did not then and many do not today even
know that the lawsuit exists.
So the issue before us is the question of extending the statute of
limitations so that no farmer is denied. And the language of my
amendment says that no funds shall be utilized to deny any eligible
farmers for this particular consent decree that comes under the Pigford
v. Glickman consent order.
I want you to know, Mr. Chairman, that this was a class action and
that it was agreed to by the U.S. Department of Agriculture. That is an
important point. We have been trying to work on legislation that would
waive or extend the statute of limitations, but it is important in the
context of the agriculture appropriations bill to let it be known that
there are farmers who weren't given the monies to survive and,
therefore, are in need of the serious look of the Appropriations
Committee to continue to press the Department of Agriculture to make
good on the consent order that they agreed to.
The discrimination in the USDA was so common during the period of
1980 to 1986 that the Glickman case determined that anyone bringing a
claim with a valid showing should receive compensation. In fact, any
nonwhite American farmer should receive compensation because the
discrimination was so pervasive.
So, in essence, this opportunity is to make a plea to the United
States Congress not to forget these farmers and to take the language of
the Glickman Department of Agriculture, which is in essence this
Department of Agriculture, who found such blatant discrimination, such
broad-based discrimination that the definition was anyone, anyone who
could make their case was eligible, and my language speaks to any
eligible person.
We have a barrier of the statute of limitations and we have a barrier
of no one listening. We have a barrier of no one shining light on this
plight and a barrier, if you will, of not recognizing that America's
small farmers, which African Americans are, are the backbone of our
farming industry and really are the backbone of the importance of the
farming community here in the United States.
We are trying to help family farmers. We are insisting on family
farmers surviving. We want to encourage them by the growth of the
ethanol production and, therefore, we should try to encourage these
African American farmers who were just randomly denied loans, without
any criteria for the denial, just on the basis of race, to be able to
make good on this important legislation and this consent decree.
In essence, Mr. Chairman, this amendment is to say to my colleagues
that ``none of the funds appropriated in this act may be used to deny
compensation to eligible individuals filing claims to be satisfied out
of the settlement fund approved by the court April 14, 1999.''
I look forward to yielding to the distinguished gentleman on the
point of order.
The Acting CHAIRMAN (Mr. Kuhl of New York). Does the gentleman
continue to reserve his point of order?
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I reserve the point of order and claim
time in opposition to the amendment.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Texas is recognized for 5
minutes.
Mr. BONILLA. The gentlewoman's time has expired, I realize, but just
this comment that she is correct, that this is an issue that needs to
be addressed by the Congress, and I would encourage Members to address
these concerns.
Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. BONILLA. I would be happy to yield briefly.
Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. I thank you. I thank you for acknowledging
that, Mr. Chairman, and I thank the ranking member for acknowledging
this important issue, and I look forward to working with you in this
body.
Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent to withdraw this amendment.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. Without objection, the amendment is withdrawn.
There was no objection.
Amendment Offered by Mr. Garrett of New Jersey
Mr. GARRETT of New Jersey. Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will designate the amendment.
The text of the amendment is as follows:
Amendment offered by Mr. Garrett of New Jersey:
Page 82, after line 14, insert the following:
Sec. 753. None of the funds made available in this Act may
be used to send or otherwise pay for the attendance of more
than 50 employees from a Federal department or agency at any
single conference occurring outside the United States.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the order of the House of today, the
gentleman from New Jersey and a Member opposed each will control 5
minutes.
The Chair recognizes the gentleman from New Jersey.
Mr. GARRETT of New Jersey. Mr. Chairman, I will not use my entire 5
minutes.
This is an amendment on an appropriations bill that we have seen in
some other ones that have passed previously, and it goes to the issue
of how we have addressed over the last couple of days spending.
Regardless of which side of the aisle that you may come from, I think
Members from both sides of the aisle will agree with one thing, and
that is that our deficits are too high. When we are spending our
taxpayers' dollars, we must be ever vigilant to be sure we are spending
them wisely. Again, this amendment is a commonsense limitation on those
hard-earned tax dollars.
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. GARRETT of New Jersey. I yield to the gentleman from Texas.
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, the gentleman presents a good amendment,
and we will be happy to offer support for him if the gentleman can
submit his remarks and move the amendment to a vote.
Mr. GARRETT of New Jersey. Reclaiming my time, I thank the chairman
for his comments, and I will then conclude my remarks simply by saying
that this is an issue that has already been addressed in the Senate,
somewhat extensively, pointing out the egregious examples in the past
where extraordinary numbers of Federal employees have gone on
international conferences.
So what the amendment simply does, at the end of the day, is put a
finite number on that. In this bill it limits it down to 50 conferees
to attend any international conference. We believe that is a reasonable
number. We believe that any agency will be able to
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live within those numbers, and again I appreciate the chairman's
acceptance of this amendment.
While those on each side of the aisle may differ on how we got there,
I think that most Members of this body agree that our deficit is far
too high.
That is why the amendment I am offering is a commonsense approach to
help limit spending and abuse of all of our constituent's hard-earned
tax dollars.
My amendment will limit the number of Federal employees that are sent
to international conferences funded under this bill to 50. The
amendment also limits that dollar amount that can be spent to $8.2
million, which is the level spent in FY01. We have seen about a 25
percent increase between then and FY05, far too great an increase while
we are operating with such high deficits.
Recently there has been a trend by our government to send a far
excessive amount of staff to these international conferences, costing
taxpayers millions of extra dollars.
While like all of my colleagues, I understand the importance of
staff, I am simply seeking to make sure that only essential staff are
utilized during these expensive foreign conferences.
While one more staffer here, and one more staffer there doesn't sound
like much, it could mean one more shift a worker in my district has to
work instead of being home with his family.
Due to my limited time I won't bore the floor with all the egregious
examples. But I will note that unfortunately these conferences are a
pattern of excess government.
This amendment has passed in various appropriations bills and is an
excellent way to show this body's commitment to fiscal responsibility.
I urge all of my colleagues' support.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. The question is on the amendment offered by the
gentleman from New Jersey.
The amendment was agreed to.
Amendment Offered by Mr. Weiner
Mr. WEINER. Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will designate the amendment.
The text of the amendment is as follows:
Amendment offered by Mr. Weiner:
At the end of the bill (before the short title), add the
following new section:
Sec. 7__. Using funds that would otherwise be paid during
fiscal year 2007 as direct payments and counter-cyclical
payments with regard to cotton and rice production, the
Secretary of Agriculture shall make grants to the several
States in an amount, for each State, equal to at least 0.75
percent of such funds, to be distributed to active
agricultural producers in the State in a manner approved by
the Secretary.
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I reserve a point of order on the
gentleman's amendment.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. The point of order is reserved.
Pursuant to the order of the House of today, the gentleman from New
York (Mr. Weiner) and a Member opposed each will control 5 minutes.
The Chair recognizes the gentleman from New York.
Mr. WEINER. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
There is some irony in the chairman of the committee raising a point
of order against this bill, because the purpose of this amendment is to
point out how badly out of order one part of our budget is.
What my amendment does is it requires that each and every State in
the Union get a minimum amount of agriculture programs for cotton and
rice, whether they have cotton or rice or not. New York, for example,
has no cotton production and has no rice production. This amendment
would guarantee that New York gets a minimum amount; .75 percent, of
the budget for cotton and rice should go to New York. It guarantees
that all States, and there are about 25 or 30 of them that have no
cotton or rice subsidies, get a minimum guarantee of cotton and rice
funding.
Now, why would I offer such a thing? Why would you propose such an
absurd notion, that any program designed for a specific constituency,
those that make cotton and rice, would get a minimum guarantee? Well,
that is exactly the question those of us in high-threat urban areas ask
about homeland security funding all the time. Yet, believe it or not, a
minimum amount, .75 percent, of homeland security funds go to every
single State in the Union.
What is the result? The result is the number one per capita recipient
of homeland security funds isn't New York, it is not Washington, DC, it
is not California or Orlando, where Disney World is. It is Wyoming.
Wyoming, in fact, gets $18.33 per capita while New York gets only $2.60
because there is a minimum guarantee that every State get a certain
amount of homeland security funds.
So I have often said to my colleagues, wouldn't it be ridiculous to
do that if this was any other program? Well, let's see. I am offering
an amendment here that would do just that, and I hope what it does is
it serves to get my colleagues thinking a little bit about how
government programs should be allocated.
I think all of us would agree that there is an appropriate place for
agriculture programs. I would hope all of us agree that in a post-9/11
world there is an appropriate role for the Federal Government in
distributing aid for homeland security. But certainly we should be able
to agree that just as it makes sense for cotton farmers to get cotton
subsidies, those in the greatest threat of a homeland security attack
should get the greatest portion of those funds.
Having a minimum guarantee, as there is in the present law, of .75
percent for every single State for homeland security funds, creates the
most distorting effect. Vermont gets $15.28 for homeland security for
each and every man, woman and child in Vermont, while California and
New York get in the low $2 range. It simply makes no sense.
So I would encourage my colleagues to think in terms of the farm
program when we come up and talk about the homeland security program. I
would encourage you to think about the idea that Mr. Bonilla and Ms.
DeLauro worked so hard to make sure the people that need the aid get
the aid, and we should do that type of thing when we are considering
homeland security funds.
It is out of order to say every State should get a minimum guarantee
of agriculture programs, but it is equally out of order to make that
assertion about homeland security funds. So I would say to my good
friends in agriculture States, I am a person from New York. What I know
from agriculture, notwithstanding the little I know about pests, is I
know that the agriculture community produces a breadbasket of food
second to none, and we need to do what we can to make sure that our
programs here in Washington support them.
We formed a coalition throughout time, frankly, between rural areas
and urban areas around our needs. We used to, in the 1980s and early
1990s, when it came to transportation funding, you would vote for that
though it might not benefit you directly, and we would vote for
agriculture funding. But never, never did we say in these programs
there should be an absolute minimum guarantee for a program,
particularly one like the Department of Homeland Security, which goes
according to risk.
So I would urge my colleagues to vote ``yes'' on the Weiner
amendment. Let us have a minimum guarantee, and maybe if we have every
program by a minimum guarantee, we will realize it is absurd to have
that formula for any program.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
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Point of Order
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I make a point of order against the
amendment because it proposes to change existing law and constitutes
legislation in an appropriations bill and therefore violates clause 2
of rule XXI.
The rule states in pertinent part: ``An amendment to a general
appropriations bill shall not be in order if changing existing law.''
The amendment imposes additional duties. I ask for a ruling from the
Chair.
The Acting CHAIRMAN (Mr. Kuhl of New York). Does any other Member
wish to be heard on the point of order?
Mr. WEINER. Mr. Speaker, I agree that we are legislating on an
appropriation bill, and I agree it is out of order to oppose or pass
the notion that every State should have a minimum guarantee. It is
exactly that ruling and exactly that language from the chairman that I
would ask you to keep in mind when we consider other legislation.
Minimum guarantees are not the way we legislate around here. We
legislate based on need; and, frankly, it is clear that we are not
allocating homeland security resources. And just the way
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this will be ruled out of order, I hope you keep that in mind when we
consider those measures as well.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. Does any other Member wish to be heard on the
point of order?
Hearing none, the Chair finds that this amendment includes language
imparting direction. The amendment therefore constitutes legislation in
violation of clause 2 of rule XXI. The point of order is sustained. The
amendment is not in order.
Amendment Offered by Mr. Garrett of New Jersey
Mr. GARRETT of New Jersey. Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will designate the amendment.
The text of the amendment is as follows:
Amendment offered by Mr. Garrett of New Jersey:
Page 82, after line 14, insert the following:
Sec. 853. None of the funds provided under the heading
``TITLE IV--DOMESTIC FOOD PROGRAMS--food stamp program''
shall be expended in contravention of section 213a of the
Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1183a).
The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the order of the House of today, the
gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Garrett) and a Member opposed each will
control 5 minutes.
The Chair recognizes the gentleman from New Jersey.
Mr. GARRETT of New Jersey. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as
I may consume.
I rise again this afternoon for what I believe is a commonsense and
important amendment to the legislation before us; commonsense simply
because at the end of the day all the amendment does is to say we
should be enforcing the current law.
As it stands right now, 8 U.S.A., section 1183, states that an
affidavit must be filed by a sponsor of an incoming alien to the
country. That affidavit is a legally binding guarantee on the part of
the sponsor that the immigrant that they are sponsoring will not become
a ``public charge.'' What I am citing here is nothing new. This public
charge requirement goes all the way back to immigration policy of the
1880s.
So what this amendment does today is simply restate that in strong
terms saying that no funds appropriated under this act, under the Food
Stamp Program, will be spent in noncompliance of current Federal law.
The reason we do this is to reinforce the fact that the laws on the
books should be enforced.
And, secondly, it addresses another point as well. Some people might
argue that there is not enough money in the Food Stamp Program for all
of the needs that are out there, and we can debate that from one side
to the other. But if you honestly believe that there isn't enough money
out there for the entire Food Stamp Program, I think we all agree from
both sides of the aisle that the money in the program should be going
to the people that it was intended for in compliance with the statute
and in compliance with current law.
So on that, I will conclude by saying we are asking nothing more than
the Food Stamp Program currently in existence today comply with the
laws set forth.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I would like claim time in opposition,
even though I am not opposed.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. Without objection, the gentleman from Texas is
recognized for 5 minutes.
There was no objection.
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, it is my understanding that this amendment
that the gentleman from New Jersey has worked very hard on tells the
Department to comply with existing law, and at this point we have no
objection to the amendment and would move the vote.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. The question is on the amendment offered by the
gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Garrett).
The question was taken; and the Acting Chairman announced that the
ayes appeared to have it.
Ms. DeLAURO. Mr. Chairman, I demand a recorded vote.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to clause 6 of rule XVIII, further
proceedings on the amendment offered by the gentleman from New Jersey
will be postponed.
Amendment Offered by Mr. Baca
Mr. BACA. Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will designate the amendment.
The text of the amendment is as follows:
Amendment offered by Mr. Baca:
Page 82, after line 14, insert the following:
Sec. 753. None of the funds appropriated by this Act may be
expended to reimburse a State agency for expenses under
section 16(a) of the Food Stamp Act of 1977 if the State
agency has implemented operational changes in the food stamp
program designed to increase the total percentage of
applications submitted by mail, by telephone, and on-line to
more than 20 percent of the total applications submitted in
that State unless the State agency can certify, and it is
further certified by the Secretary of Agriculture, that
persons with disabilities will retain equal access to the
food stamp program, that such persons will receive fair
service, and that the State agency's plan would comply with
applicable civil rights laws, including the American's with
Disabilities Act and section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act.
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I rise to reserve a point of order against
the amendment.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. The gentleman's point of order is reserved.
Pursuant to the order of the House of today, the gentleman from
California (Mr. Baca) and a Member opposed each will control 5 minutes.
The Chair recognizes the gentleman from California.
Mr. BACA. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
We must stop throwing away good money after bad policy. Some States
are taking misguided steps in administering the Food Stamp Program and
other public benefits. Moving 20 to 50 percent of all cases online or
to remote calling centers makes little sense, creating problems for
those most in need.
The fact is, disabled, undereducated and minority food stamp
participants are losing their food stamp benefit because of these cost-
cutting privatization initiatives.
What is happening in Texas is a waste of Federal funds. The Texas
State comptroller called for an investigation of the new public benefit
system. The Texas State comptroller said that the Accenture contract
appears to be a perfect storm of wasting tax dollars, reducing access
to services, and profiteering at the expense of taxpayers.
The new eligibility system is a disaster. More than 300,000 children
have left the CHIP program. This has been blamed on the contractor's
loss of applications, payments that were not credited to the proper
accounts, and families who have been improperly denied benefits.
Mr. Chairman, we cannot allow other States to be misguided down the
road. If the Baca-Doggett-Green amendment would have been in order, we
would have forced States to certify that changes to the application
process are not hurting sensitive communities under existing civil
rights and disabilities law.
People on food stamps and other public benefits need our help to
ensure that new program structures, privatization and other changes do
not harm them and do not take away food from the table. That is the
purpose of this amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Texas (Mr.
Doggett).
Mr. DOGGETT. Mr. Chairman, a massive experiment on poor people in
Texas has been a true disaster. Mr. Baca seeks to ensure that all
Americans are protected from the same thing happening to them.
Apparently, there were some people, who thought that Accenture could
do just as good a job in responding to food stamp inquiries as it did
dodging its fair share of taxes by moving off to Bermuda. They were
wrong.
Even our Republican comptroller, as Mr. Baca has noted, says we have
had a storm, ``a perfect storm of wasted tax dollars.'' Many members of
our Texas delegation this very week have written to the Governor saying
that we believe ``assisting families with nutrition and health care is
not an expense, it is an investment in our community,'' and noting that
face-to-face assistance by our public employees cannot be substituted
by a machine, with turning poor people over to the Internet or a phone
call in a distant city instead of a human being.
Moreover, our Texas State locations have ``well-trained eligibility
employees.'' Those are the employees that our
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Texas Governor proposed to dismiss. We need to keep them there, and
this amendment would help accomplish that.
Mr. BACA. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Texas
(Mr. Al Green).
Mr. AL GREEN of Texas. Mr. Chairman, I rise to speak on behalf of
some of our most vulnerable Americans who are being denied access to
needed food stamps because of States eliminating face-to-face
interviews.
Mr. Chairman, I speak on behalf of children, the elderly, disabled,
and those with limited literacy. I regret that they are not here to
speak for themselves because if they were here to speak for themselves,
they would tell you about the 20-minute phone waits. They would tell
you about the phone calls that have been abandoned because they had to
wait too long, 44 percent per the USDA.
They would tell you about the inability to use the phone because they
cannot speak, the inability to use the phone because they cannot hear.
They would tell you about the lack of computer access and the lack of
computer literacy.
This amendment ensures a user-friendly system for some of our most
vulnerable Americans. I speak for them. I stand with them. I cast my
vote for them.
Mr. BACA. Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent to withdraw my
amendment given that this amendment would be subject to a point of
order, and hope that Chairman Bonilla and Ranking Member DeLauro will
work to increase congressional oversight on this issue.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. Without objection, the amendment is withdrawn.
There was no objection.
Ms. DeLAURO. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word.
Mr. Chairman, on the immediately preceding amendment that was just
withdrawn, this is an issue I have followed closely for a long time,
and I have questioned USDA officials about this. I offered a motion to
instruct conferees on the 2006 conference report on this issue. There
is no question that this ill-considered plan must comply with all of
our civil rights laws.
I applaud the gentleman for his effort. I would also like to tell
Members about what a mess the Texas effort to privatize not only the
Food Stamp Program but other critical social services is in.
Just last week, Texas announced that the work by the company awarded
the $899 million privatization contract, Accenture, was so bad it was
putting the privatization effort on, what was described in the press,
and I quote, ``indefinite hold.''
Texas also announced it was going to give 1,000 State employees that
it had planned to lay off bonuses of $1,800 so they would stay to help
fix the mess created by Accenture. Accenture's mismanagement of the
State's CHIP program was so bad that 28,000 children were scheduled to
lose their coverage in May, on top of an already large drop in
enrollment since privatization occurred. The State had to intervene to
keep the children enrolled.
As part of the 2006 conference report, USDA is required to send the
committee quarterly reports on the Texas situation. The second and most
recent report from the USDA, like the first, is very blunt in its
assessment of the problems they see with what Texas has done with
respect to the food stamp portion of this.
The report says: ``The following concerns give pause to expansion
without substantial improvements in system functionality to support a
more ambitious implementation agenda.''
Among the concerns: Long wait times for calls; high abandonment rates
by callers; vendor performance is questionable as evidenced by the high
percentage of cases that are returned to the vendor because of missing
information and errors; case file documentation needs to be
substantially improved to support program access and integrity; vendor
performance on handling calls shows problems with the staffing and
training resulting in information to the extent that it is unclear
whether applicants will know how to apply.
The simple truth is that this effort is a disaster and it threatens
the right of Texans to get the benefits to which they are entitled.
Amendment Offered by Mr. Flake
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will designate the amendment.
The text of the amendment is as follows:
Amendment offered by Mr. Flake:
At the end of the bill, before the short title, insert the
following:
Sec. __. None of the funds made available by this Act may
be used to fund dairy education in Iowa.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the order of the House of today, the
gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Flake) and a Member opposed each will
control 5 minutes.
The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Arizona.
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, before the gentleman begins, I ask
unanimous consent that the amendment be read, and the reason I am doing
this is because we are not sure which amendment we are addressing and
in what order.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. Without objection, the Clerk will report the
amendment.
There was no objection.
The Clerk read the amendment.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Arizona is recognized for 5
minutes.
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Before addressing this particular earmark, let me make a few general
comments about what we are going to do today.
Today we will engage in a debate that has been a long time in coming.
I plan to offer several amendments to this bill to block funding for a
series of Member earmarks that are contained in the committee report
that accompanies the bill.
Let me point out that the House has already voted in the lobby reform
bill a few weeks ago to require that Members attach their names to
their earmarks; yet this committee report has come to the floor with
more than 400 earmarks and not one name. They are not required to do so
until the bill passes both Chambers, but it would be nice to have the
names attached.
Let me state from the outset I am under no illusion that I can block
funding for any of these earmarks we will discuss. I am well acquainted
with the process of log rolling where one Member agrees to support
another Member's earmarks if that Member will agree to do the same. I
suspect that log rolling will prevail here today.
But it is about time that we provide a little window into the
process. Is it the Federal Government's responsibility to recruit dairy
farmers from other regions to move to northeast Iowa, as one of the
earmarks we will discuss today purports to do?
Is the need so great this year to fund the National Grape and Wine
Initiative that we should add $100,000 in debt owed by future
generations?
Since our responsibility as Members of Congress is to prioritize
limited resources, do we really want to tell taxpayers that we believe
that spending $180,000 on hydroponic tomato production is more pressing
than other issues?
I expect that a few of the amendments I will offer today will be
successfully blocked because of a point of order. The reason: because
we have no documentation that a Federal agency that will fund the
project knows anything about the project that is to be funded.
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To successfully challenge the earmark requires an assumption that the
agency is familiar with the project. Otherwise, we might be legislating
on an appropriation bill, a violation of our rules. The incentive,
therefore, for Members looking to protect their earmarks, is to be
either vague or silent about the project's goals and its oversight.
Let us think about that for a minute. How are we supposed to exercise
oversight for these earmarked projects? Who is to be held accountable?
Not the government agency. By upholding the point of order, we are
stipulating that the agency might as well not even know that the
project exists.
In the end, since rank-and-file Members can't even challenge those
earmarks without being subject to a point of order and the agencies
don't know
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anything about them and since we don't even know who requested the
earmark in the first place, the only individuals who have any oversight
function are selected members of the Appropriations Committee or their
staff.
Mr. Chairman, it does not speak well for us as legislators when the
first and last documentation of these earmarks is found in Members'
press releases. I would like to think that we can do better than that.
I think that all of us were elected to this august body with higher
aspirations than to grovel for crumbs that might fall from
appropriators' tables.
We need to reform the process. We need to get back to the process of
authorization, appropriation and oversight. That is what this branch of
government is supposed to do. We diminish ourselves at our office when
we stray from that course.
This particular earmark or this particular amendment seeks to strike
funding for an earmark to provide $229,000 to retain and grow the
business of existing dairies and recruit dairy farmers from other
regions to northeast Iowa. What business is it of the Federal
Government to recruit dairy farmers to move from other regions to
northeast Iowa?
This work is to be carried out primarily at the Northeast Iowa
Community College Dairy Center, and it is funded through the
Cooperative State Research, Education and Extension Services Extension
Activities. The agricultural appropriation bill for fiscal year 2007
includes more than $750 million for extension activities, which is more
than $5 million last year and $26 million over the President's request.
I should point out, funding for this program was not included in the
President's request.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the amendment.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Texas is recognized for 5
minutes.
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
This Congress was the first one in a generation last year to cut
discretionary spending. The gentleman's amendment also does not do one
thing to reduce spending in the bill.
Yes, it would remove language for the particular project that the
gentleman is referencing, but then that money would be reverted back to
the Federal agency, to whatever office disseminates this money, and
then it would be left to some career bureaucrat to make the decision.
Now, there are a lot of professionals that work at that level, but I
for the life of me could not understand why we would leave all of those
decisions up to the Federal agencies.
Let me also say that this bill, aside from the discretionary spending
we cut last year as fiscal conservatives, we cut this bill almost $100
million from last year, and the ``earmarks'' that are being referenced
in this debate only make up 2 percent of this bill. So for all the
grandiose statements that are being made here about being a champion of
fiscal conservatism, big deal.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to my distinguished colleague from
Iowa (Mr. Latham).
Mr. LATHAM. Mr. Chairman, I think it is fascinating the way this
amendment reads. None of the funds made available in this act may be
used to fund dairy education in Iowa. Now, I don't know whether that
means, apparently, it is okay to educate people about dairy in
Wisconsin and Minnesota and Arizona; I think we should. I don't know
what you have necessarily against dairymen in Iowa.
Mr. Chairman, the funds contained in the bill for the northeast Iowa
dairy education project are extremely important to Iowa's dairy
industry because they help foster and enhance the development of new
dairy-producing operations and mostly among young dairy farmers.
Throughout the northeast region in my district, I hear about the
continuing success of this program and how the program has made
meaningful differences to the small dairy producers in this part of the
State. If one is a small dairy producer, of which there are many in the
State, continuing education is very important. The education project
aids the retention and growth of existing dairy farms and responds to
challenges to dairy farmers.
This project is also important to necessary research, and it is
coordinated with Iowa State University, also the National Animal
Disease Center; it coordinates with this project. And it really is
something that goes to not only diseases but state-of-the-art
production and environmental management techniques. I should also note
that the funding for this project leverages $9 million, or has in the
past, $9 million of non-Federal funding. So it is not like the people,
the farmers up there, the producers themselves, have not put their
dollars in with this project.
It is extremely important, and I would certainly ask people to vote
against this amendment.
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the balance of my time.
The only reason we limit it to dairy education in Iowa is to ensure
that our amendment was made in order. Believe me, if there were dairy
education for Arizona, I would strike that as well. We simply shouldn't
have programs like this.
Let me just say, according to the Iowa State Dairy Association, the
Iowa State dairy industry contributes more than $1.5 billion to the
economy and provides more than 26,000 jobs. I would submit that
spending $229,000 isn't going to do much to change that trend one way
or another. It is simply something we shouldn't do.
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
I would only briefly say again that a vote to support this amendment
does not a single thing to cut spending in this bill and would just
turn over all the decision-making process to a government agency. The
Constitution calls for the House of Representatives to decide how funds
are allocated, and I am a great believer in that. I urge all Members to
vote ``no.''
The Acting CHAIRMAN. The question is on the amendment offered by the
gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Flake).
The question was taken; and the Acting Chairman announced that the
noes appeared to have it.
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, I demand a recorded vote.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to clause 6 of rule XVIII, further
proceedings on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Arizona will
be postponed.
Amendment Offered by Mr. Flake
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will designate the amendment.
The text of the amendment is as follows:
Amendment offered by Mr. Flake:
At the end of the bill, before the short title, insert the
following:
Sec. __. None of the funds made available by this Act may
be used to fund the Fruit and Vegetable Market Analysis,
Arizona and Missouri grant.
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, again just for clarification, I would ask
unanimous consent that the amendment be read so we understand which
amendment is before us.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. Without objection, the Clerk will read the
amendment.
There was no objection.
The Clerk read the amendment.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the order of the House of today, the
gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Flake) and a Member opposed each will
control 5 minutes.
The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Arizona.
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
The committee has provided $350,000 for providing analysis of the
impacts of trade, environmental, monetary, and other policies on the
Nation's fruit and vegetable industry to stakeholders. This research is
to be carried out by Arizona State University and the University of
Missouri. I should note that Arizona State University has a campus in
my district.
The original goal of the research was to respond in a timely manner
to requests for policy-relevant information from congressional Members
and their staffs on a wide variety of topics that impact the fruit and
vegetable industry and consumers. The project also develops 10-year
baseline projections on production, prices, consumption and trade for
the fruit and vegetable sector. The funding is through the Cooperative
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State Research, Education and Extension Service's Special Research
grants, which are congressionally directed and noncompetitive research
earmarks awarded to universities. Again, these are noncompetitive
research earmarks awarded to universities.
The agriculture appropriations for fiscal year 2007 includes more
than $100 million in these earmarks, many that have persisted for years
and can only be terminated by Congress.
The Fruit and Vegetable Market Analysis has been receiving Federal
funds since 2002 and has received more than $1.3 million in
appropriations. This earmark, again, was not included in the
President's request and this project has no formal evaluation. There is
no expected completion date with this analysis, and it is expected to
be ongoing.
Here is another example: There are so few opportunities for oversight
here. When you contact the Federal agencies, it is difficult to even
determine if they know that these projects exist. Who is supposed to be
providing oversight here? In Congress, we are not, certainly. I mean, a
lot of these programs, some of the earmarks that we will discuss today
were expected to be 2-year programs. They have gone on for over a
decade. When do we say, enough is enough? Where is the oversight? If
the Federal agency is not providing the oversight, if they do not even
know of the program, and Congress is not providing the oversight, how
do we know that we are getting our bang for the buck?
These are pork barrel projects. We should not be funding them.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the amendment.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Texas is recognized for 5
minutes.
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Once again, the gentleman who is proposing this amendment somehow
thinks that this is going to save money in the bill.
Let me point out also, in addition to the remarks I made earlier
about cutting discretionary spending and cutting this bill back this
year, there have also been cuts in this bill where funding for the
Member priorities are down $35 million or 8 percent from last year. So
the effort to deal with fiscal conservatism is ongoing and continues
from last year when we started cutting discretionary spending. We also
terminate eight Federal programs for a savings of more than $4 million.
So anyone who thinks that we are not concerned about fiscal
conservatism can look at the facts and figures before them. And we
understand that the media likes to talk about Member priorities, but I
would suggest that anyone who is truly serious and is not looking for
recognition would work on entitlement reform, which is where the vast
majority of our government funds go to, and that would really make a
big mark on cutting back on spending, not amendments such as this one
that do not cut one penny out of this bill. And I hope our colleagues
and the constituents that are watching this are not somehow fooled into
thinking that this amendment cuts one penny out of this bill.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 2 minutes.
It strikes me as odd that the Appropriations Committee claims that
this is money that is going to be spent anyway. We have no control.
This is money, if we knock it out of here, it will just be spent
elsewhere.
What are we here for? Are we potted plants, just here to watch money
go out the door?
We are here to prioritize. We are here to say, this ought to be
funded, that should not be funded.
Last Friday, we had a great discussion about the Military Quality of
Life bill, where there was funding in there that was put in emergency
category. Surely the Appropriations Committee or the House as a whole
can say this $500 million that we are doing in earmarks here in the
agriculture bill perhaps could go to Military Quality of Life. Why can
we not do that?
This notion that we have no control and we cannot move money from one
account to another is simply absurd. We can. We are Members of
Congress. That is what we are here to do, to prioritize. So I
completely reject the notion that we cannot do this.
Also, on the subject of earmarks versus entitlements, I think my
colleague in the Senate said it well: Earmarks are the gateway drug to
spending addiction. Once you get earmarks, then it is much easier to
get other spending as well. A lot of the entitlement programs that we
have expanded, the prescription drug benefit, for example, was made
possible because of so many earmarks on other bills.
Earmarks are a problem. It does add up to real money. I believe the
transportation bill last year was some $27 billion in earmarks. That is
not chump change. And I think that Americans all over are concerned
about this and rightly so.
Also, when you have a process here where there are no names attached
to the earmarks, we do not know how to find out about these programs.
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We simply don't know. We contact the Federal agencies. Half the time
they don't know about the programs. Where are we to provide oversight?
That is one of our responsibilities, and we are not doing it here.
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, Members come to the floor and offer amendments that
have either substantive increases or decreases to appropriations bills.
I use as an example a sincere Member from the State of Colorado, comes
here every year with an amendment to cut spending that has a true
impact on the bill. Whether he succeeds or not, there are votes held on
that and honest debate is held.
But, again, when amendments are presented in this form, there is no
savings. Anyone who suggests that there is a savings in writing
amendments like this is a fool, because they are not cutting a single
penny from the appropriations bill.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, in this 30 seconds, let me explain that the
Appropriations Committee, all they have to do is tell the Budget
Committee we would like a lower 302(b) allocation. The Budget
Committee, believe me, will be glad to do that.
I am offering 11 amendments today. The FY 07 agriculture
appropriations bill has more than 450 amendments; 450. That is nearly
identical to the 10-year average, according to CRS.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. The question is on the amendment offered by the
gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Flake).
The amendment was rejected.
Amendment Offered by Mr. Flake
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will designate the amendment.
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent that all
amendments remaining, with the exception of the last one, be read, just
so we know which one we are dealing with, because we have a stack of
papers we are looking at.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. That can be addressed ad hoc.
Without objection, Clerk will read the amendment.
There was no objection
The Clerk read as follows:
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May 23, 2006--On page H3106 the following appeared: The Acting
CHAIRMAN. That can be addressed ad hoc. Without objection, Clerk
will read the amendment.
The online version should be corrected to read: The Acting
CHAIRMAN. That can be addressed ad hoc. Without objection, the
Clerk will read the amendment. There was no objection.
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Amendment offered by Mr. Flake:
At the end of the bill, before the short title, insert the
following:
Sec. __. None of the funds made available by this Act may
be used to fund the Food Marketing Policy Center, Connecticut
grant.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the order of the House of today, the
gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Flake) and a Member opposed each will
control 5 minutes.
The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Arizona.
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, this amendment for the Food Marketing Policy Center is
a Connecticut earmark. The committee has provided $579,000 for a center
that analyzes strategies and public policies
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that impact the marketing of food as well as food safety marketing.
I would ask again, what business is it of the Federal Government,
with far higher priorities, to fund an earmark like this? I would say
again to those who say, well, if you strike funding for this, the
funding will simply go to the agencies and they will spend it on their
own, we can instruct the Budget Committee, again, to say please lower
the allocations. Let's spend less on earmarks and spend more on body
armor or something else. We have the power to make those priorities,
yet we are not.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the amendment.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Texas is recognized for 5
minutes.
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, to begin the position of those opposed, I
yield 3 minutes to the gentlewoman from Connecticut (Ms. DeLauro).
Ms. DeLAURO. Mr. Chairman, I rise in strong opposition to the
gentleman's amendment and want to say a few words about the work done
at the University of Connecticut's Food Marketing Policy Center. It is
hardly frivolous.
The policy center has an established track record as a research
resource for policymakers across the world. It conducts research on a
variety of food and agricultural marketing, safety related policy
matters, information that contributes to the work that we do to improve
our food production, marketing, and safety systems.
Let me give you a couple of examples how it has helped us here in the
Congress and impacted consumers:
In 2003, the Food Marketing Policy Center research on fluid milk
pricing in the Northeast and Pacific Northwest uncovered gouging by
supermarket chains. After the demise of the Northeast Dairy Compact,
farm prices had plummeted, but retail prices in New England only had
declined marginally. The center estimated that milk at $3 per gallon
retail in New England supermarkets was $1 above its supply cost for
nearly 2 years, hurting farmers as much as consumers. Their research is
helping us determine new approaches to fluid milk channel pricing.
Another example: other research done at the center just last year
includes work done on food access for low-income consumers, the impact
of foot and mouth disease and new approaches to animal health and
biosecurity. On the latter point, the center has worked to outline the
regulatory inconsistencies between the U.S. and other countries and the
impact on the export markets for U.S. beef.
Particularly as we in the subcommittee work to ensure our food supply
is safe in the face of an increasing number of new threats and market
realities, we understand the need for the best research possible. That
is what we get from this center and what we get in return for a very
small investment from the USDA via the CSREES program, an investment, I
would remind my colleagues, that leverages additional support from
academic and industry sources. It is, in fact, a public-private
partnership.
I believe we in the Congress have an obligation to hold up our end of
the bargain and fund the center. Farmers rely on it, consumers rely on
it, public agencies, State legislatures, and even us, even some here in
the Congress.
So let's support the center. Let's support getting the best
agricultural research that is possible.
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume to
ask the gentlewoman if she would engage in a colloquy on this.
May I ask how long this program has been in existence?
Ms. DeLAURO. Mr. Chairman, if the gentleman will yield, yes, you may
ask that question, and if you can give me a second, I will get that
information.
Mr. FLAKE. Approximately is fine.
Ms. DeLAURO. Just over the last 3 years.
Mr. FLAKE. Has there been a marked improvement in the way we have
studied these issues? Didn't we get along just fine before this program
existed?
Ms. DeLAURO. I just laid out for you the specific incidents. I don't
make them up. You can go back and you can check them. But I laid out
for you several areas in which the research and the effort has been
extremely important and helpful to farmers, to consumers, and to those
of us here.
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, reclaiming my time, should we not have
similar programs for other industries, perhaps have other earmarks to
help us analyze the cost of computers?
Ms. DeLAURO. Mr. Chairman, if the gentleman will yield further, let
me just say to you, that is not the issue at hand here. We are
discussing this program. You have concerns about it. I will just say I
appreciate your asking questions. I tried to answer the questions, and
I think that I have provided, and given a lot more time, I could
provide further information about all that this center is doing and how
in fact it meets its mission in terms of assisting consumers and
farmers and the general public.
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, reclaiming my time, I thank the gentlewoman.
It makes the point why we have over the past decade increased the
number of earmarks by, I believe it is, 872 percent. That is not
something as a Republican that I am proud of at all. We had just under
15,000 earmarks in all appropriation bills last year. Who knows where
it will go, unless we get a handle on this process.
It simply is wrong for Members of Congress to be able to take an
amount of money and designate it for one particular group with no real
oversight. As I mentioned, too few of these earmarks can even be
challenged like we are challenging these today because you might be
ruled out of order because the Federal agency has no record or no idea
what the earmark is actually doing. We have a process that is out of
control.
Let me mention, as well, we haven't mentioned the other side of
earmarks. We have one of our former Members in jail right now for
basically selling earmarks. Jack Abramoff reportedly referred to the
Appropriations Committee as an ``earmark favor factory.'' Those are his
words, not mine.
We have a process that is out of control, nearly 15,000 earmarks.
When you have that many, with very little oversight, it is ripe for
abuse; and we simply have to change the direction we are going. That is
the larger point.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word.
Mr. Chairman, I come from the State of Joe McCarthy, and he was
famous for his use of innuendo. I don't appreciate it when I hear
innuendo on this floor from any source.
Let me start this way: my opinion of earmarks is pretty clear. When I
was chairman of the Appropriations Committee, for instance, we had no
earmarks in the Labor-Health-Education bill. I think the number of
earmarks has gotten grotesquely out of hand. I think it is beyond the
ability of our staff to police. On that, I agree with the gentleman.
But I don't think that we need to drag in a reference to an obscene
player in the game like Mr. Abramoff in discussing a specific earmark
such as we were discussing 5 minutes ago.
If one is serious about providing oversight on earmarks, then they
would not have voted for the budget resolution to begin with, if they
were serious about fiscal responsibility, I should say.
If they were serious about fiscal responsibility, they would not pick
and choose a few random earmarks to go after on the floor. They would
have insisted that this House have systematic reform of earmarks so
that, for instance, we go after the big targets, the authorizing
committee. The committee that provides highway authorization, for
instance.
The mother of all earmarks was the ``bridge to nowhere.'' That wasn't
in an appropriation bill. That was in the authorization bill, and that
authorization bill last year, the highway bill, had seven times as many
earmarks as the relevant appropriation bill, seven times the amount.
If people were serious about going after earmarks, they would go
after authorization earmarks. If they were serious about earmarks, they
would go after tax bills. The 1981 tax bill was replete with special
transition rules for corporations, and every time I would talk to a big
businessman who would complain to me about the deficits that Ronald
Reagan was building up, I
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would say, ``Well, why don't you raise hell about what they are doing
in the tax bill?''
``Oh, we can't, because we have got a special transition rule in
there and we don't want the committee to take it away,'' they would
say.
If you take a look the 1986 tax bill, the same problem. If you take a
look at the most recent tax bills, laced with special privileges. And
the fact is that those special privileges aren't just 1-year affairs,
as a lot of appropriations earmarks are. They continue giving again and
again and again, as the TV commercial goes.
So I would say if the gentleman has legitimate objections to specific
earmarks, by all means, it is his right to raise that on the floor. But
I think if the gentleman wants to be taken seriously on this effort in
the House, then he needs to support a systematic and systemic approach,
which will reduce the number of earmarks to a number which this House
has the capacity to handle.
I don't think that we particularly add to the effort if we just pick
and choose on the basis of, say, funny names. I recall once, for
instance, when a Senator from will my own State, Bill Proxmire, made
fun of an earmark for a research project because it was research on
Polish pigs, and everybody laughed about Polish pigs. But the fact is,
out of that study came a new blood pressure medicine, which has been
used by millions of Americans for years.
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So I would suggest there is a constructive way and a not so
constructive way to go after earmarks. I would prefer we follow a
constructive road.
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, I would agree with the gentleman from Wisconsin on the
point about trying to associate Members with activities that are well
known throughout this town and throughout this country that were
inappropriate.
But, unfortunately, when Members come and lack truth and substance
and real meat in their debates, they often times resort to try to take
a debate to that level. Anyone who opposes a person on an issue or an
amendment in this body, to have them associated with someone who has
really done themselves wrong and done the country wrong is really bad
form and, in the view of I believe the overwhelming majority of the
Members of this House, really uncalled for.
So if there are Members here who want to conduct their debates at
that level, it is unfortunate, and we cannot stop them. But, again, I
hope that we would conduct this debate at a substantive level. And with
that, I would again oppose the amendment strongly.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, may I inquire as to how much time there is
remaining?
The Acting CHAIRMAN. There is 1 minute remaining.
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, at no time have I tried to associate anyone here with
the actions of the former Member. At no time have I done so. And I
apologies if that inference was gained.
But we have a process here that is bad, that there are too few
controls. That particular Member was able to get his earmarks through
the entire process without being challenged, without one person being
able to stand up and say, you know, are those earmarks going for the
right purpose, or are they going off for some other purpose?
That is what this earmark battle is about. And I agree with virtually
every word said by the gentleman from Wisconsin, and I want to work
with him on systemic reform. We got some of that in the lobby reform
bill that we passed a few weeks ago. We need far more of it. We need
far more than just transparency.
Mr. Chairman, you have got to have accountability as well. This is
one part. Being able to challenge earmarks. No Member ought to assume
that they can get a project for their district and not ever be
challenged on it, to explain what it is about. That is what this debate
is about.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. The question is on the amendment offered by the
gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Flake).
The amendment was rejected.
Amendment Offered by Mr. Flake
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. Without objection, the Clerk will read the
amendment.
There was no objection.
The Clerk read as follows:
Amendment offered by Mr. Flake:
At the end of the bill, before the short title, insert the
following:
Sec. __. None of the funds made available by this Act may
be used to fund research and education activities for
greenhouse nurseries in Ohio.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the order of the House of today, the
gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Flake) and a Member opposed each will
control 5 minutes.
The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Arizona.
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, this earmark is a greenhouse nurseries earmark,
$726,000 for greenhouse nurseries in Ohio, an increase of $5,000 over
last year. This was described as intended to develop marketing plans to
showcase this industry that has branded itself as the Maumee Valley
Growers.
Mr. Chairman, let me just make the point again. I do not know what
else to do here. I have been screaming for 5 years that earmarks are
out of control. Yet in that same 5 years, we have doubled, probably
quadrupled the number of earmarks that this body has in the
appropriations bills every year. I do not know what else will work,
what other avenue do rank-and-file Members who are not on the
Appropriations Committee have to point out the absurdity of funding
some of these items, only to be told, well, do not take this
opportunity, challenge it another way.
I would like to see, where? Where do we have the opportunity? Why
should we not have the opportunity to stand in this body and challenge
the earmarks that Members get? Why should any Member have the
opportunity to earmark a certain amount of money for his or her
district, or for a particular company or non-profit organization or
group of individuals, without being challenged on it?
Where is that right or so-called right that we have to do so? I
simply do not see it. And I have looked, believe me, for years for
opportunities to say, we are out of control. The gentleman from
Wisconsin mentioned, I thank him for doing it. He says we are out of
control. There is no way we can police the number of earmarks. There is
no way that we can actually have real oversight here.
But if I cannot stand up and challenge these earmarks, what am I to
do? What are other rank-and-file Members to do? Where is the forum if
not here on the floor of the House?
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the amendment.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Texas is recognized for 5
minutes.
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, once again, it appears that the author of
the amendment is seeking to acknowledge some frustration and to quote
one of his lines here, I do not know what else to do. Again, I would
offer advice to not just this Member but any Member that was seriously
concerned about further fiscal responsibility again to emphasize this
bill is almost $100 million below last year's bill.
We have cut the number of Member projects in it. We cut discretionary
spending again last year. So those of us who are truly trying to make a
difference are making a difference. Is it enough? Of course not. But if
Members are actually looking for honest roadmaps to success in this
area, again, the area of entitlements needs to be addressed.
So I would suggest that any Member who really wants to tackle fiscal
responsibility in this area go for it. That would matter. Dealing with
a budget process before we get to this point, that would matter.
Offering amendments that are substantive again, but that would actually
have an effect on spending, whether it goes up or down, that would
matter. So, again, to address the frustrations that are being expressed
here, those are three clear roads to further fiscal responsibility that
I would suggest to any Member who might ask.
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But, again, to offer amendments that have nothing to do with cutting
a dime out of this bill is useless. And I can understand why the
feeling of desperation might occur.
Mr. Chairman, I yield the balance of my time to the gentlewoman from
Ohio (Ms. Kaptur).
Ms. KAPTUR. Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman very much for
yielding me time.
Mr. Chairman, as a member of this subcommittee for many years, I
would like to point out that everyone of the projects that is included
in this bill is carefully monitored and with the proposals being
reviewed on campuses before they are submitted to the U.S. Department
of Agriculture for funding. Then the U.S. Department of Agriculture
reviews each project to be sure that the projects are ones of
scientific merit, and research contracts are effectively negotiated
between the USDA and the recipient.
And the subcommittee monitors each one of the projects with detailed
questions at every hearing. This is the most recent hearing manual with
each of the amendments that the gentleman is offering about. There is
careful review. There are quarterly reports. There is documentation
that is required for every single project.
So I do not quite agree with what the gentleman has said, because it
is a contract negotiation and because there is careful review and a lot
of projects do not get funded. The gentleman mentioned something about
400 projects. Well, we have 435 Members of this institution.
And we do have a responsibility to the country. There are projects in
Arizona. There are projects in Ohio. And we cannot fund everything that
we are asked, but we do the best job that we can, and we try and make
and build a better country.
So the specifics, the gentleman had a question about I think the
greenhouse nurseries projects in Ohio. And I can assure the gentleman
that the unsubsidized family farmers of Ohio in this particular
industry are competing in a global market. And the work that is being
done by several land grant universities, including Ohio State
University, Michigan State University, Indiana State University, are
trying to help an endangered industry compete against subsidized
Canadian production where power in that nation is made available at
much cheaper rates.
The power costs of operating these kinds of greenhouses is enormous
in the current marketplace. I only wish that our region of the country
had what the gentleman has, and that is the Bureau of Land Reclamation,
and your subsidized water projects in the west that have literally
pulled much of our vegetable production from nonirrigated facilities to
the irrigated west.
I wish we had the kind of subsidies the gentleman's region has
benefited from. Perhaps because the gentleman lives in a suburb, he
does not appreciate what it takes to produce food in our country with
the kind of competition that we face.
Now I read in the gentleman's biography that he grew up on a ranch. I
sure would like to know if your family benefited from any of those
Bureau of Land Management subsidies or any of those Arizona water
projects. Maybe the gentleman gets his water from the rain. I do not
know. But, you know, other parts of America need to compete, too, and
they are not subsidized.
So we hope that our industry will be able to survive. But I would
defend any of the projects that have gone through this careful review
through the U.S. Department of Agriculture along with many of our land
grant institutions.
Mr. Chairman, I would ask the gentleman to take a look in the mirror
and to his own State.
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, I would simply point out that one of the amendments I
offered is actually to cut funding that goes to my State. I would
simply point out again, last year there were more than 10,000 earmarks
worth $29 billion. I would say, again, to the average American, that
may not seem like much to us, but it seems like a lot to them. It is a
lot to all of us.
And as mentioned before, earmarks are the gateway drug to spending
addiction. When we get earmarks, it is much easier to vote for other
things as well. The gentleman asked why we do not attack some of the
other spending and look to entitlement spending.
Twenty-five Republicans voted against the prescription drug benefit.
We have worked to limit that program to where we can afford it. We
added more unfunded liabilities to Medicare than exist in all of Social
Security with that single bill. We voted against it.
We offered alternative legislation. We tried to rally our colleagues
to vote against it. What else are we supposed to do there? Here, with
these earmarks, what other forum do we have to say, let us cut back
somewhere, somewhere. On the road to 10,000 earmarks, cannot we just
say, we have gone too far? Can we change this process?
If we are funding, I would submit, greenhouse nursery earmarks,
$726,000, we have not scrubbed this bug well enough. And the notion,
again, that if we do not spend this money here, it will just get spent
elsewhere demeans us as legislators, because it is our duty to actually
police how this money is spent. And if it is not going to be spent
here, then, again, let's go to the Budget Committee and say, we do not
need this big of an allocation.
Let's put it to the war effort. Put it to pay down the debt,
somewhere else. But this process, it ought to be authorization,
appropriation, oversight. And somehow we have neglected the first two,
authorization and oversight. And all we do is appropriate. And then
these earmarks, very few of them actually have any oversight, these
special research grants, there is some kind of reporting there. But in
most of the earmarks, there are not.
As I mentioned, most of the agencies do not even know that these are
being funded, or do not even know what the program is, they simply fund
them. They do not have the opportunity to exercise oversight there. And
we do not certainly exercise the oversight here.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. The question is on the amendment offered by the
gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Flake).
The amendment was rejected.
Amendment Offered by Mr. Flake
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. Without objection, the Clerk will read the
amendment.
There was no objection.
The Clerk read as follows:
Amendment offered by Mr. Flake:
At the end of the bill, before the short title, insert the
following:
Sec. __. None of the funds made available by this Act may
be used to fund aquaculture in Ohio.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the order of the House of today, the
gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Flake) and a Member opposed each will
control 5 minutes.
The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Arizona.
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, the goal of this project, the aquaculture in Ohio
earmark, is to foster the development of a statewide aquaculture
industry in Ohio.
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Again, I have to ask the threshold question here: Where is the
Federal nexus? Why are we taking taxpayer funds from someone in Maine
and putting it here in aquaculture in Ohio? How do we make that leap
that it is our responsibility as legislators to do that?
Again, we can save this money. This money does not have to be spent.
All we have to do is say change our allocation. Give less money. We can
take some $400 million we are spending in Member earmarks and pay down
the debt, fund the war effort, anything else but these earmarks, I
would submit.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the amendment.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Texas is recognized for 5
minutes.
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Idaho (Mr. Simpson) to begin the debate for those opposed.
Mr. SIMPSON. Mr. Chairman, while I do not want to respond to this
specific project, I do want to respond to what
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the gentleman from Arizona talked about just a little bit ago. He
mentioned 10,000 earmarks and $29 billion last year. And he seeks to
reduce the spending because somehow I guess the implication is that
that $29 billion is wasteful spending. What that is is $29 billion that
Congress has directed how it is going to be spent and not the
administration.
When the administration proposes a budget, it is a recommendation
that comes to Congress. It is full of earmarks. Administration
earmarks. Earmarks that they believe how the money should be spent.
Congress in their budget process, in their hearing process, in the
Appropriations Committee make certain determinations. Some of them, in
fact, most of them are that the administration's requests are
appropriate. Sometimes we disagree with them. We say spending ought to
be done somewhere else. We have different priorities. Those are called
earmarks. I call them congressionally directed spending.
To tell you the truth, I wish we congressionally directed all of the
spending. Remember, the President just makes recommendations. It is
this Congress's responsibility to determine where the spending is going
to go and to tell an administration or an agency that some of this
money, a very, very small percentage of it is going to be spent in
certain projects that we think are important, at least a majority here
do, I think is our role. And to suggest that all $29 billion or 10,000
earmarks, whatever the amount was, is wasteful spending is to mislead
the American people.
Are there some wasteful things in there? Sure. But if you think
giving the money just to the administration to determine how it ought
to be spent rather than Congress directing it, all of the sudden it is
going to be spent appropriately, then I want to know why there are
10,000 trailers sitting in Hope, Arkansas.
The administration can waste money just like Congress can. Sure,
there is some spending in there that we would all say is inappropriate,
but that is our job to get after it.
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
I thank the gentleman for making those points. They are good ones. We
have failed in our oversight function. But I would submit it is very
difficult to criticize the Department of Defense for not buying
sufficient body armor, for example, when we have instructed them with
an earmark to spend more than a million dollars on a museum in New York
with a congressional earmark, with a Member earmark. So we demean our
role in oversight of the Federal agencies when we have instructed and
stipulated that spending be on aquaculture in Ohio.
It is very difficult to, with a straight face, tell the agencies you
are misspending the taxpayers money when we are doing this. So we have
a process that is a great process. This was set up right in this
country. Authorization, appropriations, oversight. If we do not like
the way the President is submitting his budgets or his recommendations,
then in authorizing bills, let's say don't do that; these are the only
programs that we are going to authorize.
The trailers that ended up in Arkansas, I could not agree more. That
was our mistake for giving $12 billion up front to FEMA. We should have
said, let's have smaller trounces. Come every week and justify what you
have done. Some of us recommended doing that. But it was not accepted,
and we ended up with trailers in fields that are still in Arkansas. So
we have a process. We need to follow it. We need to get back to it.
That is what we are recommending here.
Some people point out that earmarks have been around as long as
Congress has, and I suppose that is true to some extent. But everyone
knows, over the last decade in particular, we have simply gone hog wild
with earmarks. We simply have to get this process under control.
As the gentleman from Wisconsin pointed out again, we simply do not
have enough staff to police this. We are out of control and if not to
stand up here and challenge earmarks, I am at my wits' end. I do not
know what else to do. I am frustrated. I am frustrated. I think a lot
of us are. I know the taxpayers are. So that is why we are going
through this process today.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the distinguished,
hardworking gentlewoman from Ohio (Mrs. Schmidt).
Mrs. SCHMIDT. Mr. Chairman, I rise today in opposition to this
amendment. Aquaculture is becoming a burgeoning industry in my State.
Ohio aquaculture has grown 17 percent in the last year alone.
Ohio State University, Ohio's land grant university, has been
conducting this vital research in my district to most importantly help
Ohio's tobacco farmers transition to new crops, and that is important
that we find ways for Ohio's tobacco farmers to transition to new crops
or otherwise those farmers will find themselves unable to continue to
be farmers in Ohio.
This funding is not just important to my district. It is essential to
the aquacultural research in all of Ohio through a state-wide
aquacultural extension program. This funding is well spent, and it
produces real dividends for Ohio farmers. A few years ago I got to
witness one of the farms that actually participated in this research, a
tobacco farmer that now raises shrimp and is making money off raising
shrimp in Ohio.
I am a conservative and a fiscal conservative, and I do not like to
spend people's money, but I do understand the importance of this kind
of economic research for Ohio's farmers and Ohio's folks.
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I yield the balance of my time to the
gentlewoman from Ohio (Ms. Kaptur).
Ms. KAPTUR. Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman for yielding me time.
I would like to join my dear colleague from Ohio (Mrs. Schmidt) in
saying that aquaculture is a growing business in Ohio. We want to keep
all of our communities competitive.
I would say to the gentleman from Arizona, Ohio is really a shrimp in
this. Arizona has a $4.2 million aquaculture designation in this bill.
So we are really a shrimp compared to Arizona with your subsidized
water and your Bureau of Land Reclamation incentives for your folks out
there.
But I can tell you, when I was born we had 146 million people in this
country. Today we have 300 million. The oceans are half depleted in
fish. And the Great Lakes are in great competition with Canada. We have
to put caps on what our commercial fishermen can fish. And this project
has resulted in a 30 percent increase in juvenile perch, one of the
most desired fish in the region. So we need more fish. The oceans are
not providing. We have to do our job here. Life is important. Being
competitive in the international aquaculture environment is important.
And the gentleman's own State, though it costs more to do it there
because you have all those irrigation costs, we are trying to do it
using fresh water. I think this is a wonderful investment by the
American people in their own self-interest.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. The question is on the amendment offered by the
gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Flake).
The amendment was rejected.
Amendment Offered by Mr. Flake
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. Without objection, the Clerk will read the
amendment.
There was no objection.
The Clerk read as follows:
Amendment offered by Mr. Flake:
At the end of the bill, before the short title, insert the
following:
Sec. __. None of the funds made available by this Act may
be used to fund the Hydroponic Tomato Production, Ohio grant.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the order of the House of today, the
gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Flake) and a Member opposed each will
control 5 minutes.
The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Arizona.
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
I thank the Chair for his and this body's indulgence.
This is a hydroponic tomato production earmark that we are
challenging here. Again, let me make the broader point, what business
is it of the Federal Government to pick winners and losers in the
economy, to decide that
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we ought to be promoting hydroponic tomato production earmarks instead
of promoting the cherry tomato or grape tomato or others out there that
any Member could get an earmark for? Why is it this is important and
the others are not?
We as legislators have to decide how we are going to husband the
Nation's resources. I would submit that when we have 10,000 earmarks a
year or more and when we are growing it at a rate of 872 percent over
the last 10 years, at some point, I do not know where that point is,
maybe it is with hydroponic tomatoes, some point we have got to take a
stand and say enough is enough. We simply cannot continue spending
money like this.
Again, let me just point out the notion that we cannot cut spending,
that this money if it is not going to be spent here it will just be
spent somewhere else by the administration is false. We can spend less.
We can cut our own spending. We can cut our own allocations and say we
simply do not need to spend this much money.
Again, we are not potted plants here. We are legislators. We are here
to make these decisions. I would submit that when we are spending
$180,000 on hydroponic tomatoes that something has gone awry and we
have lost our focus. That is what this debate is about.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the amendment.
The Acting CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Texas is recognized for 5
minutes.
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, historically when Members target projects
in this body, everybody understands the game. When you talk about
tomatoes and aquaculture and programs that have names that do not
immediately jump out to people with a true purpose, the press releases
go out, the media circles when you walk out of the House Chamber, and
there you have your name in the paper as a great slayer of funding
programs.
But again, the hard work when you talk about fiscal conservatism as
we have again last year cutting spending, trimming this bill down
almost $100 million, cutting back on the Member requests, all of those
things, that is the work that is done in the trenches day in and day
out.
So, again, we all realize in this body what makes a headline. So if
you make fun of the tomato and you make fun of the research project
that is in a particular State, more power to you. But I think for the
most part we are going to find that the Members of this body understand
that again there is not a single dime that is going to be cut out of
this amendment. True reform comes from the kind of work in the trenches
that I have been suggesting, entitlement reform, budget reform, those
are the processes that really matter. Or again, in the end, amendments
that actually make a difference in terms of spending or cutting the
budget.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, in response I would simply say I reject the premise
that we cannot cut spending. This notion again that we will not save
anybody by getting rid of earmarks. It is valid. This isn't a debate in
a vacuum that really does not matter. If we reform the way we do
earmarks, we will save significant money. I do not know about you, but
$29 billion seems like a lot to me, $29 billion last year in
appropriation earmarks. That is a lot of money. It adds up. A billion
here and a billion there, soon enough you have got real money.
So this notion that we cannot save and we are just throwing out a
couple of names here, I would like to bring all 450 Member earmarks to
the floor that were in this bill. Simply we do not have the time and we
do not have the patience and I understand that. But how else can we
highlight this? What other forum do we have? Believe me, if it is there
we have used it. We have got to start somewhere. I think we have got to
make a stand.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, I would say to the gentleman who is offering this
amendment directly, it is not that we cannot cut spending, because we
have. The issue here is that he cannot cut spending with any of the
amendments that he is proposing. So, again, I do not know how much more
clearly I could say that or any other Member of this body.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman from Ohio (Ms.
Kaptur).
Ms. KAPTUR. Mr. Chairman, I would just like to put on the record that
the State of Ohio used to be one of the leading tomato-growing States
in the Nation until subsidized western water, and we lost our industry
to the West.
Now, Arizona is one of the most irrigated States in the country. You
are draining water that is never going to come back. And yet I look at
our part of the country that has to fight for such a small part of the
market right now. I would just ask the gentleman, I would love to look
at the type of subsidies that attend to your agriculture in Arizona
from major government agencies that do not come to Ohio farmers.
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We are trying to maintain a very small market share. Hydroponic
production is one of the ways in which we are successfully doing it,
but I would just beg for the gentleman to take a look at what has
really happened to the movement of agriculture. One State in the Union
now produces over half the fruits and vegetables in the country, most
of it irrigated. Ohioans have a right to compete in this market.
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
To the gentlewoman's points, we do in Arizona get subsidies. We
should not, particularly with cotton. Cotton is very water intensive.
We receive subsidies in cotton in many ways, particularly through the
farm bill. I would ask you, please join me in opposing the farm bill
next year. We will have an extension of the farm bill perhaps this
year. Please join me in opposing it for subsidizing far too much as
well.
We are spending too much money. It is not just in earmarks here, but
it is other areas as well, but if we say we are not going to cut it in
earmarks or other ways, where do we cut it? That is why our budget is
simply growing and growing.
Ms. KAPTUR. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. FLAKE. I yield to the gentlewoman from Ohio.
Ms. KAPTUR. Mr. Chairman, I just want to say this may be the first
year America imports more food than she exports. This is not just a
problem inside the borders of the United States. We have to keep our
agriculture alive in this country, and it is becoming more and more
difficult every year because of what is happening in the global economy
and subsidies that are out there in other countries. Thank you for
yielding.
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, reclaiming my time, I thank the gentlewoman
for that point.
We do have a problem entering into free trade agreements because we
subsidize our agriculture so much. It is complicating the Doha round
right now. We are limiting the markets that we can sell into because of
our own subsidies.
The country of New Zealand a few years ago thought they could never
get away from agriculture subsidies. They just up and said one day, we
are not going to do it anymore; we cannot afford to anymore. People
predicted that their agriculture would drop considerably. It has not.
They have thrived. If we simply trust in the market here and let the
market take over, we would be far better off.
But in this point, again, I would make the point, we can save money
here. Earmarks are costing us a whale of a lot of money, not just
because of the money in the earmarks themselves, but in the amount of
funding that they leverage elsewhere because when you have an earmark
in an appropriations bill, you had better not vote against that
appropriations bill or you might see your earmark vanish. So it is not
just the money in the earmarks, it is the money that is leveraged.
The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman's time has expired.
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word.
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Mr. Chairman, I was not going to say anything on this point until the
gentleman made his last remark about people taking earmarks away if
they do not vote for a bill.
I do not recall a single Member of the majority party helping me
when, 2 years ago, I urged Democrats to vote against the Labor, Health
and Education bill because it was grossly insufficient to meet our
education and health care and science needs. I well recall when the
Republican Appropriations Subcommittee chairman announced to his entire
caucus that, because not a single Democrat voted for that inadequate
Labor bill, that no Democrat was going to get a project.
I am proud of the fact that Democrats stuck against that bill anyway
because we saw our duty as requiring us to oppose that bill because it
put cuts for millionaires ahead of increasing the Pell Grant for kids
trying to go to college. They put tax cuts for millionaires ahead of
funding health professions training. They put tax cuts for millionaires
ahead of worker protection programs.
So I would simply say, I welcome the gentleman's finally saying
tonight that it is improper for earmarks to be used as internal
blackmail. I just wish he had spoken up when we actually faced that
issue 2 years ago.
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. OBEY. I yield to the gentleman from Arizona.
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, the bill that you mention is a perfect
example. We do not need earmarks like this. We knocked all the earmarks
out. We survived just fine. Members survived just fine. They were
reelected. They came back. That was the only Labor-HHS bill I have ever
voted for because it did not have earmarks. We finally got it right. We
ought to continue it.
Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, well, with all due respect, the issue before
us tonight is not what happened to past appropriations bills. The issue
is whether or not, since the gentleman has chosen to take on these
particular earmarks, the issue is whether or not the earmark in
question merits support or not.
I recognize the gentleman is trying to do what Otto Passman when he
ran the Foreign Aid Committee, which is to offer amendments for
illustrative purposes, but the fact is, tonight the House is not going
to be making judgments on whether there should or should not be
earmarks. The House, under procedures tonight, is simply being asked to
make a judgment about whether a specific earmark is meritorious or not,
and I would hope that that is the basis upon which they would cast
their votes.
The CHAIRMAN. The question is on the amendment offered by the
gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Flake).
The question was taken; and the Chairman announced that the noes
appeared to have it.
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, I demand a recorded vote.
The CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to clause 6 of rule XVIII, further proceedings
on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Arizona will be
postponed.
Amendment Offered by Mr. Flake
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment.
The CHAIRMAN. Without objection, the Clerk will read the amendment.
There was no objection.
The Clerk read as follows:
Amendment offered by Mr. Flake:
At the end of the bill, before the short title, insert the
following:
Sec. __. None of the funds made available by this Act may
be used to fund the Wood Utilization grant.
The CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the order of the House of today, the
gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Flake) and a Member opposed each will
control 5 minutes.
The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Arizona.
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, the committee has provided $6,371,000 to
provide science that addresses problems with harvesting,
transportation, manufacturing and marketing of economical forest
products. For all the talk about, we are cutting too much timber and we
are doing too much of this, to provide this kind of subsidy for
research on how to do it just seems to me out of line.
Let me just point out, some of these earmarks we have been talking
about have been just a few hundred thousand dollars, not that that is
small money, but this one is $6 million. If we looked since 1985, this
program is the wood utilization program that received Federal funds in
excess of $86 million. So it goes on and on and on.
This earmark was not included in the President's request. The United
States is the world's largest producer of lumber and wood products used
in residential construction and in commercial wood products such as
furniture and containers. The United States is also the leader in the
pulp and paper business, producing about 34 percent of the world's pulp
and 29 percent of the world's output in paper and paper board.
The forest products industries is a strong contributor to the
Nation's economy, employing close to 1.3 million people in all regions
of the country, ranking among the top 10 manufacturing industries in 46
States. Why in the world do we need to be spending over $6 million a
year to talk about wood utilization? Again, let me repeat: The United
States is the leader in pulp and paper business, producing 34 percent
of the world's pulp, 29 percent of the world's output in paper and
paper board, employs more than 1.3 million in all regions of the
country, among the top 10 manufacturing industries in 46 States. Yet,
we need a program that one of its goals is funding also goes towards
educating graduate students to be knowledgeable in wood as a renewable
resource?
Now, we have been doing this program since 1985. I think wood has
been around a lot longer than that. I think people know what a valuable
resource it is. I do not think we need to be spending $6 million more
in taxpayer money again this year to educate graduate students in wood
as a renewable research.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. KINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the amendment.
The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Georgia is recognized for 5 minutes.
Mr. KINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from
Idaho (Mr. Simpson).
Mr. SIMPSON. Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman for yielding.
Let me first say, the gentleman from Arizona has every right to do
exactly what he is doing. I believe he is sincere in his efforts, and
he is right, we are not potted plants. We are elected representatives.
The funny thing about democracy is a majority has a tendency to rule,
and if the gentleman offers something and a majority vote against him,
then they have obviously supported what he does not. That is the way
the process works.
I do not ask for congressionally directed spending that I cannot
justify. In fact, not all of the congressionally directed spending that
I have requested is for projects in my district. Some of them are in
other districts for things that I think are important. One of them is
the wood utilization program. In fact, I post all of the
congressionally directed spending that I have had part in obtaining on
my Web site. I want my constituents to be able to see it, and I tell
them if they think there is anything in there that is wasteful, that we
should not be spending on, to call me and talk to me and let me know.
In fact, I entered in the Record earlier today on this bill all of
the projects that I had had any part in directing the congressional
spending on so the people could see them, and I have put in the
justification for them that I felt.
The gentleman said that the Labor-HHS bill last year was the only one
we got right, and I would only ask, you know, by putting no
congressionally directed spending in there, who knows their districts
better, who knows the needs of their constituents better, bureaucrats
in Washington, D.C., or the people they elect to Congress? To suggest
the only reason we put them in there is to gain the votes of a majority
of this place to pass a bill, is wrong. To suggest that every
congressionally directed spending earmark, as you would say, is
wasteful, is wrong.
Now, with the wood utilization program, I want to show you a list,
and I will not enter it into the journal because it would take up too
much paper, these are the saw mills that have closed since 1998. You
can go through here: Alabama; geez, California's had
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so many, It is something like 98; Georgia, 18; Idaho, 17; Arizona, 17;
Louisiana, 24; Oregon 218. These are the saw mills that have closed
since 1998 because we have stopped using and cutting timber.
Because of the Healthy Forest Initiative and because of fire
suppression in the past, we have got a lot of stands that are small
diameter timber. The days of cutting the old-growth, large trees are
pretty much gone. We have to learn how to use small diameter timber,
and that is what a lot of how this program is for, is how do we
effectively use small diameter timber?
The research that is being done in these programs at I guess 11
different State universities that receive this funding are to help the
industry develop products that are used today with the small diameter
timber, and there are wood byproducts that occur.
To me, that is an appropriate use of congressional spending, and so I
support it and I justify it, and we will see if the majority agrees
with you or me.
Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word.
Mr. Chairman, I will repeat again, I think that congressional
earmarking has gotten way out of hand, but having said that, I want to
challenge the idea that somehow every project that is funded by an
agency downtown is pure, and every project selected for funding by a
Member of Congress is impure.
I want to give you one example. A few years ago, when Mitch Daniels
was still head of OMB, he put out his so-called pork list, and leading
the list in an attempt to embarrass me was an attack on a wind sled
which I had gotten for Ashland and Bayfield in my district on the
shores of Lake Superior.
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That water is cold; 40 degrees in the summertime. And the OMB decided
that they were going to try to trumpet this project and being an
illegitimate use of taxpayer funds, so they described what was wrong
with it in their OMB booklet.
There was only one problem. They had the wrong wind sled, they had
the wrong model, and they described it as being a pleasure craft. In
fact, here is why I got the money for the wind sled in that budget:
because the local sheriff called me and told me that he had seen a
young boy drown in Lake Superior who went through the ice, and the old
device which they had to try to rescue the boy simply did not work. So
this boy's parents stood on the shore watching their son drown just 30
or 40 feet away and they could not reach him and neither could anybody
else.
So the sheriff asked me if I could please get enough funds to help
them provide a decent rescue vehicle for that area, and I got the wind
sled, and I am proud I did. And I think that I knew a whole lot more
about the facts than the head of OMB sitting on high in his office who
was simply trying to skewer a Congressman from the other party, not
having the foggiest idea of why we got it or what it was for.
Now, I certainly don't defend every earmark. I have attacked a number
of them in my years in this Congress. But if you are going to go after
an earmark, it would be useful if you knew enough about it to judge
whether or not it is a decent use of taxpayers' money or not. And I can
tell you that most of the attacks I have heard on this floor over the
past 15 or 20 years have not measured up in terms of knowing what they
were talking about.
So I just wanted to tell that little story to illustrate that I agree
with the gentleman from Idaho that all of the wisdom in government is
not deposited in the agencies. And I would point out that in many
instances what you have in an agency is some political appointee
sitting down there deciding on project after project after project who
is going to get the money, and it is not on the merits; it is on the
basis of who has a connection and who has an angle. The only difference
is, their process is a whole lot more invisible than the process is up
on the Hill.
We ought to have improvements in the process. And if we are in the
majority and if I am chairman of the Appropriations Committee, I
guarantee you there is going to be a lot more discipline than there is
today. But having said that, I do not think it is fair to simply pick
out these projects and then move to a generalization that somehow the
executive branch is always more qualified to decide what ought to
happen in each congressional district.
If we aren't qualified to know at least as much about that as the
anonymous bureaucrats downtown, then we indeed don't belong here.
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute of my time to the
gentlewoman from Ohio (Ms. Kaptur).
Ms. KAPTUR. Mr. Chairman, I appreciate the gentleman's courtesy,
since we are on opposite sides in this debate this evening. But I
wanted to follow on something Mr. Obey said, because I used to work for
a former President in the United States and I understand quite a bit
about the way OMB operates.
One of the most shocking things I learned as a White House staff
member was that you might have somebody in front of you who was the OMB
examiner on agriculture this year, and then next year they switch that
person to defense or switch them out to another agency, and you find
out they do not know the details about anything.
I was shocked that the defense examiners at OMB have nowhere near the
experience that the Members of this institution do, and this is really
where historical memory and where experience in detail rests.
So I would agree with the gentleman from Wisconsin, we need a lot
more sunlight over there on the executive side. We have total sunlight
over here. And I have a totally different impression of the OMB as a
former White House staff member than I ever did before, when I used to
hold them in very high esteem until I realized they did not know the
details of many programs. They just shifted them around, and they did
not have the kinds of commitment and depth of knowledge that Members of
Congress do.
Mr. KINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Maine (Mr. Allen).
Mr. ALLEN. Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman for yielding.
I believe the gentleman from Arizona is really looking for savings in
all the wrong places. To take just one example, the Medicare Advisory
Commission has pointed out there is $50 billion, with a B, $50 billion
in overpayments to Medicare Advantage, HMOs, and PPOs that could easily
be drawn back. So that $50 billion is one place to look.
But these funds for scientific research are critically important, and
I wanted to describe at the University of Maine the wood utilization
project that has been going on there for some significant period of
time. It has had a significant effect in the spinoffs of businesses,
because the wood composite program, the research that has been done
there, married to fiberglass technology and other forms of plastics
that I don't understand, has led to a variety of new projects.
I really disagree with the gentleman from Arizona. The public sector
and the private sector in this country are intertwined, for good or ill
sometimes. But this is a case where we are generating economic
development that is very important. I would go beyond that and say with
this particular project at the University of Maine, you haven't yet
heard about all they are doing, but they are basically making products
for the Coast Guard and for the Army that will materially strengthen
the ability of our military at home and around the globe.
They have developed a lightweight bridge that is easily transported
because it is using these composite materials. And you haven't heard
the concept yet of up-armored tents, but that is the next product line.
It is going to make our tents in Iraq much safer than they ever have
been from IEDs or incoming mortars.
I think it is wrong to all too quickly decide that these research
projects, like the one we are discussing today, don't have economic
spinoffs or, in this case, security spinoffs that are fundamentally
important to this country.
With that, I urge the defeat of the amendment.
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, I want to just say to the gentleman from
Idaho that I appreciate working with him in this process to reform the
earmark process. His insights as a member of the Appropriation
Committee have been valuable, and he has agreed that it is a good thing
to have Members' names attached to these earmarks.
When people wonder why we are seeking this process now and how we
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are to provide oversight, I can tell you that with 450 earmarks in this
bill, not one name was attached. That is why it has been a great
process here today to see some of the authors, the sponsors of the
earmarks come to the floor; otherwise, we wouldn't have known, unless
you can find it in a press release somewhere, that they sponsored this
legislation.
We are looking for sunlight here. We would like to provide oversight,
but it is difficult when we don't even know. We got the report last
week. How are we supposed to scrub this?
Let me also say that the executive branch doesn't always spend it
wisely. All you have to do is drive through the fields of Arkansas and
see those trailers and realize they bungle it often. What I am saying
is that we diminish our credibility as those conducting oversight when
we insert stipulations like this, when we say you have got to spend
money on the Punxsutawney Weather Museum in Pennsylvania, or we have to
spend $6 million on wood utilization that we have been doing for almost
20 years and we never seem to get out of.
We diminish our role as the conductors of oversight when we so
trivialize this process and ignore the authorization and the oversight
function.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
The CHAIRMAN. All time having expired, the question is on the
amendment offered by the gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Flake).
The amendment was rejected.
Amendment Offered by Mr. Flake
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment.
The CHAIRMAN. Without objection, the Clerk will read the amendment.
There was no objection.
The Clerk read as follows:
Amendment offered by Mr. Flake:
At the end of the bill, before the short title, insert the
following:
Sec. __. None of the funds made available by this Act may
be used to fund the National Grape and Wine Initiative.
The CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the order of the House of today, the
gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Flake) and a Member opposed each will
control 5 minutes.
The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Arizona.
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Again, this is another example of the Federal Government funding a
program that can and is funded by the private sector. I should note
here the vision of the initiative says: ``By 2020, the American grape
and wine industry will triple its economic impact and become the
undisputed world leader in consumer value and sustainability. The
target is an economic impact of $150 billion within 16 years. This is
based on a conservative estimate of current annual impact of
approximately $50 billion a year.''
I would submit that if an industry out there has a $50 billion-a-year
impact on the economy, $50 billion, then the Congress need not spend
$250,000 for strategic research and a plan to enhance the grape
industry's competitiveness and contribution to the U.S. economy.
I can tell you what the contribution is to the U.S. economy. We have
been told. It is about $50 billion a year. Yet here we are spending
$250,000 for strategic research to enhance the grape industry's
competitiveness and contribution.
Again, if we are going to get control on spending, we have to start
somewhere. I would submit this is a great place to start.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. KINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I claim the time in opposition, and I
yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from California (Mr. Thompson).
Mr. THOMPSON of California. Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman for
yielding, and I rise in opposition to this amendment and in support of
this initiative.
The grape industry is very, very important to the country, as the
gentleman noted; but this program is also very important to the grape
industry and to the consumers across this country. Grapes are the sixth
largest crop in the United States and the largest specialty crop in the
United States.
In the past, wine, wine grapes, raisins, table grapes, and the grape
juice industry have all competed for Federal funds. This is funding
that does work in regard to pest control and in research for health
issues that are important to the American people. Because of this
competition factor in the past, oftentimes those funds were spent in
ways that were duplicative and were uncoordinated. That is not healthy
for the taxpayers, for the industry, or for the American people.
With this initiative, all of those aforementioned industries have
come together to ensure that the funding would be coordinated and it
would be focused. It would be focused to work to benefit not only all
of these industries but all of the American people. Again, this is in
research for health care, for health issues, and for pest control.
An example: at UC Davis, some of the work they have been doing under
this program has led to some incredibly good developments in combating
diabetes. If this amendment were accepted, that program would go away
and all of this work would be lost. We shouldn't reduce the funding in
this program, and we should all vote against the gentleman's amendment.
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, I would simply make the point again: a $50
billion industry I think probably has the means at its disposal to fund
this kind of research that we are talking about and could perhaps fill
the void.
A $50 billion industry could fill the void of $250,000 that is given
back to the taxpayers or spent in another area. If you can find a
definition of corporate welfare in the dictionary, this would probably
be it. A $50 billion industry, and yet we are giving them $250,000 to
have research carried out to enhance the industry's competitiveness and
contribution to the U.S. economy.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. KINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I want to say this, and I appreciate what
the gentleman from Arizona is doing, because I think that we all need
to be accountable for anything that is in the bill or anything we vote
on. One of my gripes with the other body is that they keep things in
committee, and it is an incumbent protection system.
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So I think having the opportunity to come down here and debate and
fight for what we believe is important.
I want to point out, last year, our budget passed in the final
version out of conference committee 212-214. That is a two-vote margin.
So if you put more spending in the budget, it probably would not have
passed. If you put less spending in the budget, it probably would not
have passed also. It truly was a balance between those who wanted to
spend more and those who wanted to spend less. And there are a lot who
want to spend less.
However, politics is the reality of the possible or the passable.
What you have sometimes is budgets that are hard to justify. I remember
Mr. Obey telling a good story about something called the soldier fly.
Down in the area I represent, there is a lot of agriculture. There are
a lot of chicken growers, and chicken growers have chickens in hen
houses. But, unfortunately, or fortunately, in a lot of rural areas, it
has turned urban. And what do chickens have? Chickens have flies. They
have blue flies. People build houses, and then the first thing they do
is complain about the flies coming from the chicken houses. And the
farmers were there first, but it does not matter.
Well, enter the soldier fly. The soldier fly comes in, Mr. Chairman,
like a big hero and eats the blue flies; solves the problems for the
farmer, solves the problem for the homeowners in rural areas. And this
is a big economic issue, getting rid of the flies in chicken houses.
Well, we want to know, what can you do to foster more soldier flies?
And so you study soldier flies. It is a nontoxic way to take care of
pollution, but of course, it is great fodder for Reader's Digest to say
they are studying the mating habits of soldier flies, which is not
necessarily true.
But having the opportunity to come out here, and it was not an
earmark, but to come out here and have an opportunity to debate things
is good. I think it is a healthy exercise. But I want to say this as a
committee member: When things are in the budget, and this budget, as
you know, is down 8 percent from last year and that Member priorities
are down $35 million, you
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are under budget. And what somebody in California agriculture or
somebody from Ohio agriculture supports may be different from what
people in, say, Georgia support. But the overall goal is within the
budget.
This year we have only passed a budget on the House side by a mere I
believe 7 or 6 votes. So we are all walking that balance.
But I want to say I urge a ``no'' vote on this amendment, but I do
like this process. I also want to say on behalf of the Appropriations
Committee members, we do favor earmark reform. But we also believe when
you have things like the Bridge to Nowhere that don't come from an
appropriation bill, you have to open up the process to all of the other
committees as well.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the balance of my time.
I want to thank Members for their indulgence. I know it is not easy
to sit through so many amendments in a row. I appreciated this process,
for one actually to see and hear people defend their earmark on the
floor. That is something which has been missing. As I mentioned, you
see 415 projects in the report; no description really of them, and no
Members' name attached. You could not call them and ask, what is this
about? So the only way you can do that is come to the floor and do what
we just did.
I would submit that we need to do a lot more of it, and we need to
get back to authorization, appropriation and oversight. Let me say
again, when we are spending money like this, then we seem to have money
to throw around, and I would submit that the average taxpayer in
California or Oregon or Arizona or anywhere would look at this and say,
why are we taking my hard-earned money and spending it to give $250,000
to the grape and wine industry that means about $50 billion to the U.S.
economy? That is not a prudent use of taxpayer resources.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
The CHAIRMAN. The question is on the amendment offered by the
gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Flake).
The question was taken; and the Chairman announced that the ayes
appeared to have it.
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, I demand a recorded vote.
The CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to clause 6 of rule XVIII, further proceedings
on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Arizona will be
postponed.
Sequential Votes Postponed in Committee of the Whole
The CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to clause 6 of rule XVIII, proceedings will
now resume on those amendments on which further proceedings were
postponed, in the following order:
Amendment by Mr. Garrett of New Jersey.
Amendment by Mr. Flake of Arizona regarding dairy education.
Amendment by Mr. Flake of Arizona regarding hydroponic tomato
production.
Amendment by Mr. Flake of Arizona regarding grape and wine
initiative.
Pursuant to the order of the House of today, the Chair will reduce to
2 minutes the time for any electronic vote after the first vote in this
series.
Amendment Offered by Mr. Garrett of New Jersey
The CHAIRMAN. The pending business is the demand for a recorded vote
on the amendment offered by the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Garrett)
on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the ayes
prevailed by voice vote.
The Clerk will redesignate the amendment.
The Clerk redesignated the amendment.
Recorded Vote
The CHAIRMAN. A recorded vote has been demanded.
A recorded vote was ordered.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 266,
noes 153, not voting 13, as follows:
[Roll No. 189]
AYES--266
Aderholt
Akin
Alexander
Bachus
Baker
Barrett (SC)
Barrow
Bartlett (MD)
Barton (TX)
Bass
Bean
Beauprez
Berkley
Berry
Biggert
Bilirakis
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (UT)
Blackburn
Blunt
Boehlert
Boehner
Bonilla
Bonner
Bono
Boozman
Boren
Boswell
Boucher
Boustany
Boyd
Bradley (NH)
Brady (TX)
Brown (SC)
Burgess
Burton (IN)
Buyer
Calvert
Camp (MI)
Campbell (CA)
Cannon
Cantor
Capito
Carter
Case
Castle
Chabot
Chandler
Chocola
Coble
Cole (OK)
Conaway
Cooper
Cramer
Crenshaw
Cubin
Culberson
Davis (CA)
Davis (KY)
Davis (TN)
Davis, Jo Ann
Davis, Tom
Deal (GA)
DeFazio
Dent
Doolittle
Drake
Dreier
Duncan
Edwards
Emerson
English (PA)
Etheridge
Everett
Feeney
Flake
Foley
Forbes
Ford
Fortenberry
Fossella
Foxx
Franks (AZ)
Frelinghuysen
Gallegly
Garrett (NJ)
Gerlach
Gibbons
Gilchrest
Gillmor
Gingrey
Gohmert
Goode
Goodlatte
Gordon
Granger
Graves
Green (WI)
Gutknecht
Hall
Harris
Hart
Hastings (WA)
Hayes
Hayworth
Hefley
Hensarling
Herger
Herseth
Hobson
Hoekstra
Holden
Hooley
Hostettler
Hulshof
Hyde
Inglis (SC)
Istook
Jenkins
Jindal
Johnson (CT)
Johnson (IL)
Johnson, Sam
Jones (NC)
Kanjorski
Keller
Kelly
Kennedy (MN)
Kind
King (IA)
King (NY)
Kingston
Kirk
Kline
Knollenberg
Kolbe
Kuhl (NY)
LaHood
Latham
LaTourette
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (KY)
Linder
LoBiondo
Lucas
Lungren, Daniel E.
Lynch
Mack
Manzullo
Marchant
Marshall
Matheson
McCaul (TX)
McCotter
McCrery
McHenry
McHugh
McIntyre
McKeon
McMorris
Melancon
Mica
Miller (FL)
Miller (MI)
Miller (NC)
Miller, Gary
Mollohan
Moore (KS)
Moran (KS)
Murphy
Murtha
Musgrave
Myrick
Neugebauer
Ney
Northup
Norwood
Nunes
Nussle
Oberstar
Obey
Osborne
Otter
Oxley
Paul
Pearce
Pence
Peterson (MN)
Peterson (PA)
Petri
Pickering
Pitts
Platts
Poe
Pombo
Pomeroy
Price (GA)
Price (NC)
Pryce (OH)
Putnam
Radanovich
Rahall
Ramstad
Regula
Rehberg
Reichert
Renzi
Reynolds
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rogers (MI)
Rohrabacher
Ross
Royce
Ryan (WI)
Ryun (KS)
Sabo
Saxton
Schmidt
Schwarz (MI)
Scott (GA)
Sensenbrenner
Sessions
Shadegg
Shaw
Shays
Sherwood
Shimkus
Shuster
Simmons
Simpson
Skelton
Smith (TX)
Sodrel
Souder
Spratt
Stearns
Sullivan
Sweeney
Tancredo
Tanner
Taylor (MS)
Terry
Thomas
Thompson (CA)
Thornberry
Tiahrt
Tiberi
Tierney
Turner
Upton
Visclosky
Walden (OR)
Walsh
Wamp
Weldon (FL)
Weldon (PA)
Weller
Westmoreland
Whitfield
Wicker
Wilson (NM)
Wilson (SC)
Wolf
Young (AK)
Young (FL)
NOES--153
Abercrombie
Ackerman
Allen
Andrews
Baca
Baird
Baldwin
Becerra
Berman
Bishop (NY)
Blumenauer
Brady (PA)
Brown (OH)
Butterfield
Capps
Capuano
Cardin
Cardoza
Carnahan
Carson
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Conyers
Costa
Costello
Crowley
Cuellar
Cummings
Davis (AL)
Davis (IL)
DeGette
Delahunt
DeLauro
Diaz-Balart, L.
Diaz-Balart, M.
Dicks
Dingell
Doggett
Doyle
Ehlers
Emanuel
Engel
Eshoo
Farr
Fattah
Ferguson
Filner
Fitzpatrick (PA)
Frank (MA)
Gonzalez
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Gutierrez
Harman
Hastings (FL)
Higgins
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Holt
Honda
Hoyer
Inslee
Israel
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Johnson, E. B.
Jones (OH)
Kaptur
Kildee
Kilpatrick (MI)
Kucinich
Langevin
Lantos
Larsen (WA)
Leach
Lee
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lipinski
Lofgren, Zoe
Lowey
Maloney
Markey
Matsui
McCarthy
McCollum (MN)
McDermott
McGovern
McKinney
McNulty
Meehan
Meek (FL)
Meeks (NY)
Michaud
Millender-McDonald
Miller, George
Moore (WI)
Moran (VA)
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal (MA)
Olver
Ortiz
Owens
Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor
Pelosi
Porter
Rangel
Reyes
Ros-Lehtinen
Rothman
Roybal-Allard
Ruppersberger
Rush
Ryan (OH)
Salazar
Sanchez, Linda T.
Sanchez, Loretta
Sanders
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schwartz (PA)
Scott (VA)
Serrano
Sherman
Slaughter
Smith (NJ)
Smith (WA)
Solis
Stark
Strickland
Stupak
Tauscher
Thompson (MS)
Towns
Udall (CO)
Udall (NM)
Van Hollen
Velazquez
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Watson
Watt
Waxman
Weiner
Wexler
Woolsey
Wu
Wynn
NOT VOTING--13
Brown, Corrine
Brown-Waite, Ginny
Davis (FL)
DeLay
Evans
Hunter
Issa
Jefferson
Kennedy (RI)
Larson (CT)
Payne
Snyder
Taylor (NC)
{time} 2046
Ms. ROYBAL-ALLARD and Messrs. BRADY of Pennsylvania, MEEK of
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Florida, FATTAH and GUTIERREZ changed their vote from ``aye'' to
``no.''
Mrs. DAVIS of California and Ms. HOOLEY and Messrs. LAHOOD, COOPER,
KIND, GERLACH, POMEROY and LYNCH changed their vote from ``no'' to
``aye.''
So the amendment was agreed to.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
Stated for:
Ms. GINNY BROWN-WAITE of Florida. Mr. Chairman, on rollcall No. 189
my card did not register for the second time. I voted ``aye'' but it
did not register.
Amendment Offered by Mr. Flake
The CHAIRMAN. The pending business is the demand for a recorded vote
on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Flake)
regarding dairy education on which further proceedings were postponed
and on which the noes prevailed by voice vote.
The Clerk will redesignate the amendment.
The Clerk redesignated the amendment.
Recorded Vote
The CHAIRMAN. A recorded vote has been demanded.
A recorded vote was ordered.
The CHAIRMAN. This will be a 2-minute vote.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 92,
noes 325, not voting 15, as follows:
[Roll No. 190]
AYES--92
Akin
Andrews
Barrett (SC)
Bartlett (MD)
Barton (TX)
Bass
Bean
Bilirakis
Blackburn
Blumenauer
Bradley (NH)
Brown (SC)
Brown-Waite, Ginny
Buyer
Campbell (CA)
Castle
Chabot
Chocola
Coble
Cooper
Cubin
Davis, Jo Ann
Davis, Tom
Deal (GA)
Doggett
Duncan
Ehlers
Eshoo
Everett
Feeney
Ferguson
Flake
Ford
Fossella
Frank (MA)
Franks (AZ)
Garrett (NJ)
Gibbons
Gingrey
Green (WI)
Gutknecht
Harris
Hayworth
Hefley
Hensarling
Holt
Inglis (SC)
Jindal
Johnson, Sam
Jones (NC)
Keller
Kelly
Kennedy (MN)
Kline
Lewis (KY)
Lofgren, Zoe
Mack
Marchant
Matheson
McHenry
Meehan
Miller (FL)
Miller, Gary
Myrick
Norwood
Otter
Owens
Pallone
Paul
Pence
Petri
Pitts
Platts
Poe
Price (GA)
Ramstad
Rohrabacher
Royce
Ryan (WI)
Sensenbrenner
Sessions
Shadegg
Shaw
Smith (WA)
Stearns
Sullivan
Tancredo
Tiberi
Udall (CO)
Van Hollen
Westmoreland
Whitfield
NOES--325
Abercrombie
Aderholt
Alexander
Allen
Baca
Bachus
Baird
Baker
Baldwin
Barrow
Beauprez
Becerra
Berkley
Berman
Berry
Biggert
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (NY)
Bishop (UT)
Blunt
Boehlert
Boehner
Bonilla
Bonner
Bono
Boozman
Boren
Boswell
Boucher
Boustany
Boyd
Brady (PA)
Brady (TX)
Brown (OH)
Burgess
Burton (IN)
Butterfield
Calvert
Camp (MI)
Cannon
Capito
Capps
Capuano
Cardin
Cardoza
Carnahan
Carson
Carter
Case
Chandler
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Cole (OK)
Conaway
Conyers
Costa
Costello
Cramer
Crenshaw
Crowley
Cuellar
Culberson
Cummings
Davis (AL)
Davis (CA)
Davis (IL)
Davis (KY)
Davis (TN)
DeFazio
DeGette
Delahunt
DeLauro
DeLay
Dent
Diaz-Balart, L.
Diaz-Balart, M.
Dicks
Dingell
Doolittle
Doyle
Drake
Dreier
Edwards
Emanuel
Emerson
Engel
English (PA)
Etheridge
Farr
Fattah
Filner
Fitzpatrick (PA)
Foley
Forbes
Fortenberry
Foxx
Frelinghuysen
Gallegly
Gerlach
Gilchrest
Gillmor
Gohmert
Gonzalez
Goode
Goodlatte
Gordon
Granger
Graves
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Gutierrez
Hall
Harman
Hart
Hastings (FL)
Hastings (WA)
Hayes
Herger
Herseth
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Hobson
Hoekstra
Holden
Honda
Hooley
Hostettler
Hoyer
Hulshof
Hyde
Inslee
Israel
Istook
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Jenkins
Johnson (CT)
Johnson (IL)
Johnson, E. B.
Jones (OH)
Kanjorski
Kaptur
Kildee
Kilpatrick (MI)
Kind
King (IA)
King (NY)
Kingston
Kirk
Knollenberg
Kolbe
Kucinich
Kuhl (NY)
LaHood
Langevin
Lantos
Larsen (WA)
Latham
LaTourette
Leach
Lee
Levin
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (GA)
Linder
Lipinski
LoBiondo
Lowey
Lucas
Lungren, Daniel E.
Lynch
Maloney
Manzullo
Markey
Marshall
Matsui
McCarthy
McCaul (TX)
McCollum (MN)
McCotter
McCrery
McDermott
McGovern
McHugh
McIntyre
McKeon
McKinney
McNulty
Meek (FL)
Meeks (NY)
Melancon
Mica
Michaud
Millender-McDonald
Miller (MI)
Miller (NC)
Miller, George
Mollohan
Moore (KS)
Moore (WI)
Moran (KS)
Moran (VA)
Murphy
Murtha
Musgrave
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal (MA)
Neugebauer
Ney
Northup
Nunes
Nussle
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Ortiz
Osborne
Oxley
Pascrell
Pastor
Pearce
Pelosi
Peterson (MN)
Peterson (PA)
Pickering
Pombo
Pomeroy
Porter
Price (NC)
Pryce (OH)
Putnam
Radanovich
Rahall
Rangel
Regula
Rehberg
Reichert
Renzi
Reyes
Reynolds
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rogers (MI)
Ros-Lehtinen
Ross
Rothman
Roybal-Allard
Ruppersberger
Rush
Ryan (OH)
Ryun (KS)
Sabo
Salazar
Sanchez, Linda T.
Sanchez, Loretta
Sanders
Saxton
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schmidt
Schwartz (PA)
Schwarz (MI)
Scott (GA)
Scott (VA)
Serrano
Shays
Sherman
Sherwood
Shimkus
Shuster
Simmons
Simpson
Skelton
Slaughter
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Sodrel
Solis
Souder
Spratt
Stark
Strickland
Stupak
Sweeney
Tanner
Tauscher
Taylor (MS)
Terry
Thomas
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Thornberry
Tiahrt
Tierney
Towns
Turner
Udall (NM)
Upton
Velazquez
Visclosky
Walden (OR)
Walsh
Wamp
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Watson
Watt
Waxman
Weiner
Weldon (FL)
Weldon (PA)
Weller
Wexler
Wicker
Wilson (NM)
Wilson (SC)
Wolf
Woolsey
Wu
Wynn
Young (AK)
Young (FL)
NOT VOTING--15
Ackerman
Brown, Corrine
Cantor
Davis (FL)
Evans
Higgins
Hunter
Issa
Jefferson
Kennedy (RI)
Larson (CT)
McMorris
Payne
Snyder
Taylor (NC)
{time} 2050
So the amendment was rejected.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
Amendment Offered by Mr. Flake
The CHAIRMAN. The pending business is the demand for a recorded vote
on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Flake)
regarding hydroponic tomato production on which further proceedings
were postponed and on which the noes prevailed by voice vote.
The Clerk will redesignate the amendment.
The Clerk redesignated the amendment.
Recorded Vote
The CHAIRMAN. A recorded vote has been demanded.
A recorded vote was ordered.
The CHAIRMAN. This will be a 2-minute vote.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 90,
noes 328, not voting 14, as follows:
[Roll No. 191]
AYES--90
Akin
Barrett (SC)
Bartlett (MD)
Bass
Bean
Beauprez
Biggert
Bilirakis
Bishop (UT)
Blackburn
Blumenauer
Bradley (NH)
Brown (SC)
Brown-Waite, Ginny
Burton (IN)
Buyer
Campbell (CA)
Chabot
Chocola
Coble
Cooper
Cubin
Davis, Jo Ann
Davis, Tom
Deal (GA)
Doggett
Duncan
Ehlers
Eshoo
Everett
Feeney
Ferguson
Flake
Fossella
Franks (AZ)
Garrett (NJ)
Gerlach
Gibbons
Gohmert
Green (WI)
Gutknecht
Harris
Hayworth
Hefley
Hensarling
Inglis (SC)
Jindal
Johnson, Sam
Jones (NC)
Keller
Kelly
Kennedy (MN)
King (IA)
Kline
Lewis (KY)
Lofgren, Zoe
Lungren, Daniel E.
Mack
Maloney
Matheson
McHenry
Miller (FL)
Miller, Gary
Myrick
Norwood
Otter
Paul
Pence
Petri
Pitts
Platts
Poe
Price (GA)
Ramstad
Rohrabacher
Royce
Ryan (WI)
Sensenbrenner
Sessions
Shadegg
Smith (WA)
Stearns
Sullivan
Tancredo
Taylor (MS)
Terry
Tiberi
Velazquez
Westmoreland
Whitfield
NOES--328
Abercrombie
Aderholt
Alexander
Allen
Andrews
Baca
Bachus
Baird
Baker
Baldwin
Barrow
Barton (TX)
Becerra
Berkley
Berman
Berry
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (NY)
Blunt
Boehlert
Boehner
Bonilla
Bonner
Bono
Boozman
Boren
Boswell
Boucher
Boustany
Boyd
Brady (PA)
Brady (TX)
Brown (OH)
Burgess
Butterfield
Calvert
Camp (MI)
Cannon
Cantor
Capito
Capps
Capuano
Cardin
Cardoza
Carnahan
Carson
Carter
Case
Castle
Chandler
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Cole (OK)
Conaway
Conyers
Costa
Costello
Cramer
Crenshaw
Crowley
Cuellar
Culberson
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Cummings
Davis (AL)
Davis (CA)
Davis (IL)
Davis (KY)
Davis (TN)
DeFazio
DeGette
Delahunt
DeLauro
DeLay
Dent
Diaz-Balart, L.
Diaz-Balart, M.
Dicks
Dingell
Doolittle
Doyle
Drake
Dreier
Edwards
Emanuel
Emerson
Engel
English (PA)
Etheridge
Farr
Fattah
Filner
Fitzpatrick (PA)
Foley
Forbes
Ford
Fortenberry
Foxx
Frank (MA)
Frelinghuysen
Gallegly
Gilchrest
Gillmor
Gonzalez
Goode
Goodlatte
Gordon
Granger
Graves
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Gutierrez
Hall
Harman
Hart
Hastings (FL)
Hastings (WA)
Hayes
Herger
Herseth
Higgins
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Hobson
Hoekstra
Holden
Holt
Honda
Hooley
Hostettler
Hoyer
Hulshof
Hyde
Inslee
Israel
Istook
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Jenkins
Johnson (CT)
Johnson (IL)
Johnson, E. B.
Jones (OH)
Kanjorski
Kaptur
Kildee
Kilpatrick (MI)
Kind
King (NY)
Kingston
Kirk
Knollenberg
Kolbe
Kucinich
Kuhl (NY)
LaHood
Langevin
Lantos
Larsen (WA)
Latham
LaTourette
Leach
Lee
Levin
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (GA)
Linder
Lipinski
LoBiondo
Lowey
Lucas
Lynch
Manzullo
Marchant
Markey
Marshall
Matsui
McCarthy
McCaul (TX)
McCollum (MN)
McCotter
McCrery
McDermott
McGovern
McHugh
McIntyre
McKeon
McKinney
McNulty
Meehan
Meek (FL)
Meeks (NY)
Melancon
Mica
Michaud
Millender-McDonald
Miller (MI)
Miller (NC)
Miller, George
Mollohan
Moore (KS)
Moore (WI)
Moran (KS)
Moran (VA)
Murphy
Murtha
Musgrave
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal (MA)
Neugebauer
Ney
Northup
Nunes
Nussle
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Ortiz
Osborne
Owens
Oxley
Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor
Pearce
Pelosi
Peterson (MN)
Peterson (PA)
Pickering
Pombo
Pomeroy
Porter
Price (NC)
Pryce (OH)
Putnam
Radanovich
Rahall
Rangel
Regula
Rehberg
Reichert
Renzi
Reyes
Reynolds
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rogers (MI)
Ros-Lehtinen
Ross
Rothman
Roybal-Allard
Ruppersberger
Rush
Ryan (OH)
Ryun (KS)
Sabo
Salazar
Sanchez, Linda T.
Sanchez, Loretta
Sanders
Saxton
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schmidt
Schwartz (PA)
Schwarz (MI)
Scott (GA)
Scott (VA)
Serrano
Shaw
Shays
Sherman
Sherwood
Shimkus
Shuster
Simmons
Simpson
Skelton
Slaughter
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Sodrel
Solis
Souder
Spratt
Stark
Strickland
Stupak
Sweeney
Tanner
Tauscher
Thomas
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Thornberry
Tiahrt
Tierney
Towns
Turner
Udall (CO)
Udall (NM)
Upton
Van Hollen
Visclosky
Walden (OR)
Walsh
Wamp
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Watson
Watt
Waxman
Weiner
Weldon (FL)
Weldon (PA)
Weller
Wexler
Wicker
Wilson (NM)
Wilson (SC)
Wolf
Woolsey
Wu
Wynn
Young (AK)
Young (FL)
NOT VOTING--14
Ackerman
Brown, Corrine
Davis (FL)
Evans
Gingrey
Hunter
Issa
Jefferson
Kennedy (RI)
Larson (CT)
McMorris
Payne
Snyder
Taylor (NC)
{time} 2054
So the amendment was rejected.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
Amendment Offered by Mr. Flake
The CHAIRMAN. The pending business is the demand for a recorded vote
on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Flake)
regarding grape and wine initiative on which further proceedings were
postponed and on which the ayes prevailed by voice vote.
The Clerk will redesignate the amendment.
The Clerk redesignated the amendment.
Recorded Vote
The CHAIRMAN. A recorded vote has been demanded.
A recorded vote was ordered.
The CHAIRMAN. This will be a 2-minute vote.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 87,
noes 328, not voting 17, as follows:
[Roll No. 192]
AYES--87
Akin
Barrett (SC)
Bartlett (MD)
Barton (TX)
Bass
Bean
Beauprez
Bilirakis
Bishop (UT)
Blackburn
Bradley (NH)
Brown-Waite, Ginny
Buyer
Campbell (CA)
Castle
Chabot
Chocola
Coble
Cooper
Cubin
Davis, Jo Ann
Davis, Tom
Deal (GA)
Duncan
Ehlers
Everett
Feeney
Ferguson
Flake
Fossella
Frank (MA)
Franks (AZ)
Garrett (NJ)
Gibbons
Gingrey
Green (WI)
Gutknecht
Harris
Hayworth
Hefley
Hensarling
Inglis (SC)
Istook
Jindal
Johnson (IL)
Johnson, Sam
Jones (NC)
Keller
Kelly
Kennedy (MN)
King (IA)
Kline
Lewis (KY)
Mack
Marchant
Matheson
McHenry
McMorris
Miller (FL)
Myrick
Norwood
Obey
Otter
Paul
Pence
Petri
Pitts
Platts
Poe
Price (GA)
Pryce (OH)
Ramstad
Rohrabacher
Royce
Ryan (WI)
Sensenbrenner
Sessions
Shadegg
Shays
Smith (WA)
Sodrel
Stearns
Sullivan
Tancredo
Tiberi
Westmoreland
Whitfield
NOES--328
Abercrombie
Ackerman
Aderholt
Alexander
Allen
Andrews
Baca
Bachus
Baird
Baker
Baldwin
Barrow
Becerra
Berkley
Berman
Berry
Biggert
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (NY)
Blumenauer
Blunt
Boehlert
Boehner
Bonilla
Bonner
Bono
Boozman
Boren
Boswell
Boucher
Boustany
Boyd
Brady (PA)
Brady (TX)
Brown (OH)
Brown (SC)
Burgess
Burton (IN)
Butterfield
Calvert
Camp (MI)
Cannon
Cantor
Capito
Capps
Capuano
Cardin
Cardoza
Carnahan
Carson
Carter
Case
Chandler
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Cole (OK)
Conaway
Conyers
Costa
Costello
Cramer
Crenshaw
Crowley
Cuellar
Culberson
Cummings
Davis (AL)
Davis (CA)
Davis (IL)
Davis (KY)
Davis (TN)
DeFazio
DeGette
Delahunt
DeLauro
DeLay
Dent
Diaz-Balart, L.
Diaz-Balart, M.
Dicks
Dingell
Doggett
Doolittle
Doyle
Drake
Dreier
Edwards
Emanuel
Emerson
Engel
English (PA)
Eshoo
Etheridge
Farr
Filner
Fitzpatrick (PA)
Foley
Forbes
Ford
Fortenberry
Foxx
Frelinghuysen
Gallegly
Gerlach
Gilchrest
Gillmor
Gohmert
Gonzalez
Goode
Goodlatte
Gordon
Granger
Graves
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Gutierrez
Hall
Harman
Hart
Hastings (FL)
Hastings (WA)
Hayes
Herger
Herseth
Higgins
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Hobson
Hoekstra
Holden
Holt
Honda
Hooley
Hostettler
Hoyer
Hulshof
Hyde
Inslee
Israel
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Jenkins
Johnson (CT)
Johnson, E. B.
Jones (OH)
Kanjorski
Kaptur
Kildee
Kilpatrick (MI)
Kind
King (NY)
Kingston
Kirk
Knollenberg
Kolbe
Kucinich
Kuhl (NY)
LaHood
Langevin
Lantos
Larsen (WA)
Latham
LaTourette
Leach
Lee
Levin
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (GA)
Linder
Lipinski
LoBiondo
Lofgren, Zoe
Lowey
Lucas
Lungren, Daniel E.
Lynch
Maloney
Manzullo
Markey
Marshall
Matsui
McCarthy
McCaul (TX)
McCollum (MN)
McCotter
McCrery
McDermott
McGovern
McHugh
McIntyre
McKeon
McKinney
McNulty
Meehan
Meek (FL)
Meeks (NY)
Melancon
Mica
Michaud
Millender-McDonald
Miller (MI)
Miller (NC)
Miller, Gary
Miller, George
Mollohan
Moore (KS)
Moore (WI)
Moran (KS)
Moran (VA)
Murphy
Murtha
Musgrave
Nadler
Napolitano
Neugebauer
Ney
Northup
Nunes
Nussle
Oberstar
Olver
Ortiz
Osborne
Owens
Oxley
Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor
Pearce
Pelosi
Peterson (MN)
Peterson (PA)
Pombo
Pomeroy
Porter
Price (NC)
Putnam
Radanovich
Rahall
Rangel
Regula
Rehberg
Reichert
Renzi
Reyes
Reynolds
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rogers (MI)
Ros-Lehtinen
Ross
Rothman
Roybal-Allard
Ruppersberger
Ryan (OH)
Ryun (KS)
Sabo
Salazar
Sanchez, Linda T.
Sanchez, Loretta
Sanders
Saxton
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schmidt
Schwartz (PA)
Schwarz (MI)
Scott (GA)
Scott (VA)
Serrano
Shaw
Sherman
Sherwood
Shimkus
Shuster
Simmons
Simpson
Skelton
Slaughter
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Solis
Souder
Spratt
Stark
Strickland
Stupak
Sweeney
Tanner
Tauscher
Taylor (MS)
Terry
Thomas
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Thornberry
Tiahrt
Tierney
Towns
Turner
Udall (CO)
Udall (NM)
Upton
Velazquez
Visclosky
Walden (OR)
Walsh
Wamp
Wasserman Schultz
Watson
Watt
Waxman
Weiner
Weldon (FL)
Weldon (PA)
Weller
Wexler
Wicker
Wilson (NM)
Wilson (SC)
Wolf
Woolsey
Wu
Wynn
Young (AK)
Young (FL)
NOT VOTING--17
Brown, Corrine
Davis (FL)
Evans
Fattah
Hunter
Issa
Jefferson
Kennedy (RI)
Larson (CT)
Neal (MA)
Payne
Pickering
Rush
Snyder
Taylor (NC)
Van Hollen
Waters
{time} 2058
So the amendment was rejected.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
Stated for:
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Mr. VAN HOLLEN. Mr. Chairman, on rollcall No. 192, I was unavoidably
detained. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will read the last three lines.
The Clerk read as follows:
This Act may be cited as the ``Agriculture, Rural
Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related
Agencies Appropriations Act, 2007''.
{time} 2100
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I move that the Committee do now rise and
report the bill back to the House with sundry amendments, with the
recommendation that the amendments be agreed to and that the bill, as
amended, do pass.
The motion was agreed to.
Accordingly, the Committee rose; and the Speaker pro tempore (Mr.
Bass) having assumed the chair, Mr. Ryan of Wisconsin, Chairman of the
Committee of the Whole House on the State of the Union, reported that
that Committee, having had under consideration the bill (H.R. 5384)
making appropriations for Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug
Administration, and Related Agencies for the fiscal year ending
September 30, 2007, and for other purposes, had directed him to report
the bill back to the House with sundry amendments, with the
recommendation that the amendments be agreed to and that the bill, as
amended, do pass.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to House Resolution 830, the
previous question is ordered.
Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that the amendment
by the gentleman from New York (Mr. Engel) be considered to have been
adopted in the Committee of the Whole with the modifications I have
placed at the desk.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Clerk will report the modification.
The Clerk read as follows:
At the end of the bill (before the short title), insert the
following:
Sec.--. None of the funds made available in this Act may be
used in contravention of section 303 of the Energy Policy Act
of 1992 (42 U.S.C. 13212).
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the
gentleman from Texas?
There was no objection.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is a separate vote demanded on any
amendment? If not, the Chair will put them en gros.
The amendments were agreed to.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the engrossment and third
reading of the bill.
The bill was ordered to be engrossed and read a third time, and was
read the third time.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the passage of the bill.
Pursuant to clause 10 of rule XX, the yeas and nays are ordered.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 378,
nays 46, not voting 8, as follows:
[Roll No. 193]
YEAS--378
Abercrombie
Ackerman
Aderholt
Akin
Alexander
Allen
Andrews
Baca
Bachus
Baird
Baker
Barrett (SC)
Barrow
Bartlett (MD)
Barton (TX)
Beauprez
Becerra
Berkley
Berman
Berry
Bilirakis
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (NY)
Bishop (UT)
Blunt
Boehlert
Boehner
Bonilla
Bonner
Bono
Boozman
Boren
Boswell
Boucher
Boustany
Boyd
Brady (PA)
Brady (TX)
Brown (OH)
Brown (SC)
Brown-Waite, Ginny
Burgess
Burton (IN)
Butterfield
Buyer
Calvert
Camp (MI)
Campbell (CA)
Cannon
Cantor
Capito
Capps
Cardin
Cardoza
Carnahan
Carson
Carter
Case
Castle
Chabot
Chandler
Chocola
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Coble
Cole (OK)
Conaway
Cooper
Costa
Costello
Cramer
Crenshaw
Crowley
Cubin
Cuellar
Culberson
Cummings
Davis (AL)
Davis (CA)
Davis (IL)
Davis (KY)
Davis (TN)
Davis, Jo Ann
Davis, Tom
Deal (GA)
DeGette
DeLauro
DeLay
Dent
Diaz-Balart, L.
Diaz-Balart, M.
Dicks
Dingell
Doolittle
Drake
Dreier
Duncan
Edwards
Ehlers
Emanuel
Emerson
Engel
English (PA)
Eshoo
Etheridge
Everett
Farr
Fattah
Filner
Fitzpatrick (PA)
Foley
Forbes
Ford
Fortenberry
Foxx
Frelinghuysen
Gallegly
Garrett (NJ)
Gerlach
Gilchrest
Gillmor
Gingrey
Gohmert
Gonzalez
Goode
Goodlatte
Gordon
Granger
Graves
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Gutierrez
Gutknecht
Hall
Harman
Harris
Hart
Hastings (FL)
Hastings (WA)
Hayes
Herger
Herseth
Higgins
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Hobson
Hoekstra
Holden
Holt
Honda
Hooley
Hostettler
Hoyer
Hulshof
Hunter
Hyde
Inglis (SC)
Inslee
Israel
Issa
Istook
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Jenkins
Jindal
Johnson (CT)
Johnson (IL)
Johnson, E. B.
Johnson, Sam
Jones (NC)
Jones (OH)
Kaptur
Keller
Kelly
Kennedy (MN)
Kildee
Kilpatrick (MI)
King (IA)
King (NY)
Kingston
Kirk
Kline
Knollenberg
Kolbe
Kucinich
Kuhl (NY)
LaHood
Langevin
Lantos
Larsen (WA)
Latham
LaTourette
Leach
Levin
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (GA)
Lewis (KY)
Linder
Lipinski
LoBiondo
Lofgren, Zoe
Lowey
Lucas
Lungren, Daniel E.
Lynch
Mack
Maloney
Manzullo
Marchant
Marshall
Matsui
McCarthy
McCaul (TX)
McCollum (MN)
McCotter
McCrery
McDermott
McGovern
McHenry
McHugh
McIntyre
McKeon
McKinney
McMorris
McNulty
Meek (FL)
Meeks (NY)
Melancon
Mica
Michaud
Millender-McDonald
Miller (FL)
Miller (MI)
Miller (NC)
Miller, Gary
Mollohan
Moore (KS)
Moore (WI)
Moran (KS)
Murphy
Murtha
Musgrave
Myrick
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal (MA)
Neugebauer
Ney
Northup
Norwood
Nunes
Nussle
Olver
Ortiz
Osborne
Otter
Oxley
Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor
Pearce
Pelosi
Pence
Peterson (MN)
Peterson (PA)
Pickering
Pitts
Platts
Poe
Pombo
Pomeroy
Porter
Price (NC)
Pryce (OH)
Putnam
Radanovich
Rahall
Ramstad
Rangel
Regula
Rehberg
Reichert
Renzi
Reyes
Reynolds
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rogers (MI)
Ros-Lehtinen
Ross
Rothman
Roybal-Allard
Royce
Ruppersberger
Rush
Ryan (OH)
Ryun (KS)
Sabo
Salazar
Sanchez, Linda T.
Sanchez, Loretta
Sanders
Saxton
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schmidt
Schwartz (PA)
Schwarz (MI)
Scott (GA)
Scott (VA)
Serrano
Sessions
Shaw
Sherman
Sherwood
Shimkus
Shuster
Simmons
Simpson
Skelton
Slaughter
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Smith (WA)
Sodrel
Solis
Souder
Spratt
Strickland
Stupak
Sullivan
Sweeney
Tanner
Tauscher
Taylor (MS)
Taylor (NC)
Terry
Thomas
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Thornberry
Tiahrt
Tiberi
Tierney
Towns
Turner
Udall (CO)
Udall (NM)
Upton
Van Hollen
Velazquez
Visclosky
Walden (OR)
Walsh
Wamp
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Watson
Watt
Waxman
Weiner
Weldon (FL)
Weldon (PA)
Weller
Westmoreland
Wexler
Whitfield
Wicker
Wilson (NM)
Wilson (SC)
Wolf
Woolsey
Wu
Wynn
Young (AK)
Young (FL)
NAYS--46
Baldwin
Bass
Bean
Biggert
Blackburn
Blumenauer
Bradley (NH)
Capuano
Conyers
DeFazio
Delahunt
Doggett
Doyle
Feeney
Ferguson
Flake
Fossella
Frank (MA)
Franks (AZ)
Gibbons
Green (WI)
Hayworth
Hefley
Hensarling
Kanjorski
Kind
Lee
Markey
Matheson
Meehan
Miller, George
Moran (VA)
Oberstar
Obey
Owens
Paul
Petri
Price (GA)
Rohrabacher
Ryan (WI)
Sensenbrenner
Shadegg
Shays
Stark
Stearns
Tancredo
NOT VOTING--8
Brown, Corrine
Davis (FL)
Evans
Jefferson
Kennedy (RI)
Larson (CT)
Payne
Snyder
{time} 2117
So the bill was passed.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.
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